/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>"I love this but I have no money..."

>"AP IS AGEPLAY SHIT I AM GLORIOUS CLASSIC LOLI"

>Lolita specific shoes ruin a lovely outfit 9 times out of 9 especially the bodyline ones.

>>6763702
It gets bothersome when she gets upset over getting her dress stained after sex.

So
>Cool, meet up planned, in the description it says "And while we're taking the super nice free route, we're going to try and go for a really good themed restaurant, so prepare your pockets for a boss dining experience. Restaurant TBA. "
>Supper excited to go out to a nice place to eat with my frills on.
>They post a restaurant.
>First comment is bitching that it is to expensive
>Check out the menu
>Most expensive dinner is 25$
>Almost everything else is 10$ and under
FUCKING SERIOUSLY?!?! I was expecting +50$ dinner swanky time from the description, and you are bitching that it costs the same as shitty mall food?
What, were you expecting McDonald prices?

mfw people want to buy something from me, tell me they definitely want to buy it, ignore me for over a week and then ask if I can hold it for a month and then do a month-long payment plan.

>>6763707
9 times out of 10
beh

Oh lord, where to start.
>Am I the only one who dislikes flat shoes in lolita fashion? I feel like heels (no matter how small) or platforms look 1000x better. (and obviously I mean heels within reason.)
>People who write off anything with a black and white color scheme as ita
>People who think they're ~*so unique desu*~ when they break the rules and their coords look like trash
>Crew socks. I feel like they make legs look unnecessarily stubby.

I'll try to think of more. These are just my personal pet-peeves, it's definitely not a personal attack on anyone.

http://egl-comm-sales.livejournal.com/20987695.html
WTF those comments, that poor seller.
I GIVE YOU 100 DOLLAR FOR YOUR DAY DREAM CARNIVAL.
WHAT YOU MEAN YOU NO SELL?

>>6763719
It gets better.
800 yen for your DDC!
8.09 US Dollar!
GOOD DEAL YOU SELL?
God, this does not involve me but I am so mad.

>>6763719
>>6763722
i'm not sure what's funnier, that they insist on trying to buy from someone who already told them they don't have the dress in question or that they're trying to buy any kind of dress for 800 yen with 1000 yen as their max

>>6763719
>>6763722
I refuse to believe that isn't a troll.

>>6763719
That poor girl. I really feel for her. There's only one person who has the regular JSK and it's that girl from Australia (who apparently has caused a lot of issues with trades/sales) and I always see those two sales posts one after another. And then this craziness.

>>6763719
>>6763722
Oh haha, that is my post. I did not realize I forgot to screen her second attempt to give me her full address and paypal. Going to go do that now heh... I was thinking of PMing a mod, but she stopped commenting so I think she understood finally. I did see her comment on another post though, but I didn't think to read her comment.
>>6763753
Yeah I attempted to work out a trade with her. But I was given a very strange answer 'I'm speaking on behalf of my friend who is probably buying it from me' so I didn't persue it, I simply told her to have her friend send me a message if she wanted to trade. I didn't understand the logic, if her friend wants the tiered but is buying the normal to trade with me, why wouldn't I just trade with the original buyer, then her friend can buy the tiered off her? Oh well haha. Maybe it wasn't as weird as I am making it out to be and I was being overly cautious. But I see she still hasn't sold it and I never received any more messages.

sage for no contribution

>>6763722
To be fair, if she's being retarded and meant $800, that would be an incredible offer and very well might make someone not interested in selling sell.

>>6763774
but...that would be even more stupid with the open reserves right now.

>>6763709
Theres a couple of these in my comm and I'm like
"MOTHERFUCKERS WE DO THIS ONCE A MONTH FIND FIFTEEN DOLLARS AND LET ME HAVE THIS GLAMOUR LIFE"

>>6763710
mfw it's a blouse

The worst is when girls who aren't lolita show up to meet ups and say, "Oh I'm lolita; I've been researching and following AP and BTSSB for years but I've never bought a dress." I don't mind of non Lolitas come to meet ups at all just don't act like you know everything and call yourself one without owning a single dress.

>>6763786

The incident I'm describing happened with a pair of socks.

>>6763702
> that feeling when your local comm has a bunch of new lolita who freak out when you mention things in your closet or things you have bought.

>>6763786
I mean...really? Have these girls never been to a nice restaurant?
At some of my favorite places, if I don't walk out 50-100 poorer I was not hungry.
>>6763807
....pic related

>>6763722
>>6763719
Mfw this girl

She wanted to buy a dress from me (keep in mind I only have one dress for sale, and a clearly marked WTB), and after I ended up invoicing her she flipped a lid and almost immediately opened a dispute instead of just waiting for me to respond and refund her. Her feedback page is up, and I've been debating being the first to leave feedback... Abeit negative.

But not before asking me to hold until the end of May/reduce the price/ship to Seoul.

>>6763844
wait, why did she want a refund in the first place?

>>6763848
She thought she was buying some sort of white dress that I didn't have. The dress I had was black/white so I assumed it was that one, considering it was the only thing I listed for sale.

>>6763853
There's only so much you can say is due to a language barrier. that's fucking weird!

>>6763719
>>6763722
>>6763844
>>6763853
Why isn't this person banned??

>>6763861
Looking at the DDC begging, she clearly has a decent grasp over English. It's just her simpering additude that really grinds me.

I'll post screencaps later, I can't on my phone.

>>6763709
At least your community doesn't refuse to go out to eat since no one can be trusted to not spill shit on their own or other's dresses.

>>6763897

Oh my God.
Oh my God, is that true? Is everybody in your comm like, four?

>>6763904
For the most part. Whenever someone suggests a restaurant meet up people flip out and say they can't eat in lolita. The few of us that can handle ourselves have started having separate dinner meets.

>>6763844
>>6763853
1.

>>6763937
2.

>>6763940
sales ss 3

wearing black or dark-coloured shoes when the rest of the outfit is pastel/doesn't have an iota of black in it

>>6763702
why is the girl on the left wearing a black blouse

>>6763709
Funny, we use this in our comm to weed out the povertyfags and fourteen year olds from the good meetups.

>>6763949

'povertyfag?'
Lolstop. You sound like a tryhard.

>>6763942
LEAVE A NEGATIVE LEAVE A NEGATIVE LEAVE A NEGATIVE.

>>6763946
I WAS THINKING THIS TOO and is she wearing wristcuffs over the blouse?
should have made the gothic wear a pink blouse, or at least something pink

>>6763970
>and is she wearing wristcuffs over the blouse?
Uh.. you've never seen that before? It's really common.

>>6763970

this is two very good friends of mine, it was a commissioned print, and I don't think the guy drawing it knew much more about lolita other than what he saw online. One girl was always in pink and the other in gothic, and this is what he came up with.

>>6763949
We do the same, since some people will have an aneurism over "I MUST GET 17 CENTS BACK OR ELSE I WON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO GET HOME"
Jfc if money is that tight then don't come out

>>6763985
no actually :( do you have a picture?
>>6763986
you_tryed.jpeg

>>6764000
I'll see if I can find one, it's mostly done in OTT sweet which I don't have a lot of pictures of saved...

I've read before though that that's how they're intended to be worn??

>>6764000
i think it's the same as girl who wear blouses under OPs, i see that a lot in sweet, so wearing wristcuffs over the sleeve ends wouldn't be crazy i think

>>6763949
>>6763995
This is such a good idea. Too bad from what I've seen everyone in my comm seems to be a poorfag. D:

>>6763937
>Can I buy a white dress

I'm sorry but it's your own fucking fault for not seeing this. However they did overreact with the paypal dispute rather than asking for a refund.

I hate bonnets so much. I hate them more than maxipad head-dresses, especially the big ones. They are ugly and stupid looking, it makes you look like Bo Peep or a giant baby. Neither is a good look.

>>6764034
Because I assumed it was normally polite to at least wait 24 hours before opening a dispute? She barely paid before asking for her money back and I wasn't even aware until my bank called to tell me money with withdrawn from my account courtesy of Paypal instead of just freezing what was already there. Otherwise I would of just checked what was up the next day instead of monitoring it at 2 in the morning.

There was only one dress for sale, and it was black and white. The only white dress listed was a WTB, clearly labeled as a WTB, with no prices or stock photos.

>"I am the self proclaimed expert on lolita"
>Never comes to meets, but comes to brand events dressed poorly with greasy hair and no makeup
>Now wants to join the local Gyaru comm
God help us.

>>6764034
But the dress isn't black, either. It's black and white.

>Be local crazy girl
>I have cancer for the third time!
>Beg for money on facebook
>Organize crappy fundraiser event that no one wants to attend
>Admit that the money would be used for rent and living expenses
>"I'm moving to California to marry my friend to get his life insurance!"

>>6764607
really? it's pretty low to make fun of someone who has fucking cancer.

>>6764617
looks like a list of facts

>>6764637
>be local girl that organizes all of the bigger meets because no one else will take the responsibility while you brood in the corner while no one talks to you
>has CANCER
>needs friend's life insurance to pay for CANCER TREATMENTS

this is seriously such a low blow, you should be ashamed of yourself.
i hope you never get cancer and have to deal with the chemo and nausea and the hundreds of thousands of dollars of medical bills.

>>6764652
this. It's fucking CANCER. I don't know the situation but goddamn. I wouldn't wish cancer on my worst enemy.

>>6764607
She could *die* you jackass. I'm sure that if she could avoid putting herself and her loved ones through turmoil because she got sick (3 fucking times) she would.
Go die in a hole.

>>6764607
>I have cancer for the third time
>acting like its a fucking choice to get terminally ill
what the hell, please leave our comm you piece of shit

Krad Lanrete still haven't sent my Mozarabic Chant to my SS. I've been waiting months for this dress abluhbluhbluh

But thank goodness that this is pretty much the most serious of my problems right now.

Does anyone know what
>>6764607
says?

>>6764700
you bet i capped it

>>6764702
This is why I love you, /cgl/.

young lolita =/= bad

I'm glad my community is so kind and welcoming, but it scares me when I read how so many people on /cgl/ believe that anyone below at least 18 is automatically an ita.

Itas are itas because they already have no fashion sense, and often no idea of personal hygiene. Even in normal clothes.

I watched and waited for a very long time before even attempting my first coordinate. I don't have a steady income so therefore I'm not just going to mooch off my parents all the time. But I really do appreciate the few pieces I have from birthday or Christmas money, I'm proud of my few co-ords so far, and I work just as hard as anybody to build a respectable wardrobe. I just wish weaboos didn't give younger lolis such a bad name.

My number one right now is making/posting gifs of yourself on tumblr. Seriously one of the most ingratiating lolita fads yet.

One thing:

>Slut shaming

This enrages me like nothing else.

Why is it so common amongst lolita comms? Given that it's a generally quite sexually open minded community, why is there so much slut shaming? Fucking hell. Half of us have fetlife profiles.

>>6764766
Cgl hates older lolita too, you can't fucking win when it comes to cgl so don't worry abou it.

It's not a specifically lolita thing, but a handful of lolitas I've added on FB (who are very nice girls in person) have started posting abused animals and shit like piles of dead cats and "Help! This dog on the other side of the country is going to get euthanized in 24 hours if nobody adopts him!", like what the fuck am I supposed to do about that? I'm a responsible pet owner and adopted my dog and had it spayed and vaccinated and shit, so I don't want to look at a bunch of dead and abused animals.
I had to block their posts because it was getting ridiculous. These aren't even 14 year olds or anything, usually I'd expect that stuff from teenagers and Babby's First PETA, but damn.

>>6764840
This.


This.

THIS!!!

>>6764840
Because cgl hates attention whores, and sluts are the ultimate annoying attention whores.

>>6763774
I feel like she must have meant yuan. 800 yuan is about $120, which makes more sense.

>>6764840
Well what kind of "slut shaming" do you mean?
People don't care if others have sex lives.

It's when those people decide to trumpet their sexual exploits out loud like it's an accomplishment, or expose themselves all over the internet and then get mad when people judge them that fucking irritates my comm.
The only people still taking myspace angle cleavage shots of themselves and publicly talking about how long they blew their bfs last night are underage, edgy look-at-me bimbos that haven't grown the fuck up yet. And yeah those types of people have it coming.

>>6764862
You got issues. If people post that it's not directed to you, it's directed to people who can help. If you only think about what you have done to your pet then you're the one who has problems.

>>6764905
They're our bodies miss jelly fatty :))))

>>6764694

Same for me anon. Hopefully it'll show up before my birthday but I'm not holding my breath.

These threads always make me feel better about never having joined a loli group.

>>6764915
Yeah, someone's sure got issues because she doesn't want to see gory pictures of abuse all the time. Give me a break.

>>6764941
Haha liek right? Stupid fat jelly uggos getting angry because of my big bewbs and statuses about the five guys I fucked last nite XDDD

>>6764941
What the fuck does being an annoying attention whore have to do with "your bodies" pray tell?
>pls be trollan

>>6763965
Not the loli you were responding to, but in my comm we do the same thing. And "povertyfags" aren't necessarily poor, or even short of money--we've got a couple of girls who clearly have plenty of money, but they still whine about any meetup that requires paying an admission fee or eating at a full-service restaurant. They're not poor; they just fucking cheap, and their predictable povertyfagging goes hand-in-hand with other obnoxious personality traits.

So there's a core group of us who go ahead and plan meetups at decent restaurants anyway, because we know it'll keep them away. There are only so many free outings in the park we can do before it gets really fucking old.

>>6764990

You don't actually go to nice restaurants in your fetish gear do you?

God.

>>6764064
Tiferet?

I have not seen pics, but she's been bragging about buying a lot of Liz Lisa lately, and was spotted at the J-Pop summit last summer trying to do gyaru. I'm not sure I want to see pics, now that I think of it.

>>6765006
> tif in Liz Lisa or any gyaru
> where the eff are the pics? Does she have a blog?

>>6765022
..Why did you greentext that?

>>6765006
I WANT TO SEE THE PICS

>>6765026
im sorry, I failed you ;_;

>>6765047
It's ok, anon. All is forgiven.

>>6763946
Hey, I know these girls, too. They're a sweet/goth couple and this was a commission done for Valentines Day, thus the contrasting outfits. The girl on the left is drawn from an actual outfit of hers, where she's also wearing wearing black tights, I think? The artist just ended up not including them, and inadvertently drew them as hoverlolis, lol.

>>6763709
Ugh, similar thing happened on our last meetup, and please bear in mind that we are all 20+ year old.

>So what do we do
>"There's this restaurant I wanted to check out"
>Ok, we go there
>"Oh, it's far too fancy, I'd feel so out of place there, plus it's kinda expensive"
>Bitch, your dress was at least $200 and you look like a peacock compared to the people inside
>So maybe just a bar or something
>"Nono, I'd be scared of getting my clothes dirty"

Eventually we settled on hot chocolate in a nice cafe so it wasn't that bad, but man I really felt like strangling at this moment.

>>6763712
> >Am I the only one who dislikes flat shoes in lolita fashion?
Nope, although I hate flat shoes in general. Where lolita is concerned, they tend to either be too plain or look like somebody's taken some normal shoes and chopped the heel off. Flats also make dresses look frumpy, I think. And if your skirt doesn't reach your knee, heels stop it from looking like you're trying to squeeze into a kid's dress.

>>6764905
Exactly. We're not judging you for having a sex life or kinks or anything like that. We're judging you for throwing that shit around in everyday conversation.

Also it seems like SJWness runs rampant in lolita comms nowadays. It seems like nearly every lolita blog is reposting whatever feminist rant is trending on Tumblr at the moment.

>>6764941
9/10, pretty well done.

>>6764766
You must be at least 18 to use this website

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS GOING ON WITH THIS POSE
WHY DOES ANYONE EVER THINK THIS SHIT LOOKS FLATTERING OR CUTE
Atrocious coord aside, this photo just makes me so mad because she's trying so fucking hard to be ~*~kawaii~*~ and she thought it looked good enough to post online, holy fucking shit dude I'm mad

>>6765647
I thought her coord was okay until I saw the sneakers.

>>6765647
>Atrocious coord
I don't think you know what that word means.

The sneakers are annoying, yeah, but they match so I'd call it more misguided, not atrocious.

And yeah, that pose is dumb, but I don't think 'flattering' is what anyone is thinking when they do that.

tl;dr calm the fuck down holy shit

>>6764662
........why does fenris have a bow

>>6765717
Are you new

Lolitas (or people in general) on Tumblr getting mad when their photos are reposted with credit instead of reblogged. I get it if they're reposted *without* credit, but if they're only pissed because I'm taking away precious ~notes~ then that's just dumb.

>>6765006
Bingo.

>>6765661
I literally pulled this photo from hipster.co, these are the shoes she's wearing. The lighting in this photo makes it look like they match, but in person they're not anywhere close to the color of that dress (I saw them for sale at Ross, that's the only reason why I know). Also those god-forsaken glasses and the fluffy bow/star pins all collectively grind my gears so hard I want to scream, but since using the word "atrocious" is purely a matter of opinion, then yes I know what it means and I used it in the right context based on how her outfit makes me feel.

>know an overweight girl,
>been posted on cgl for her Ross store brought Lolita dress
> posts a pic of her wearing a Lolita dress add sob "woe is me I get picked on for being a fat Lolita"
> gets 400 plus notes mostly from itas and other plus sizes
> suddenly things she's the shit and expert on Lolita
> never post full body pic always myspace angles
> now wants to be the black venues angelic

>>6765988
Since when does Ross sell "store brought lolita dress"? :/

>>6766025
Pretty sure that's the point being made. She wasn't being knocked for being fat, she was being knocked for an awful, non-lolita dress.

Lolitas with chronic illnesses who take every opportunity to make it a big deal or play the martyr because "no one considered [their] needs" in planning meets.

I've got issues of my own, but I don't expect a group of 35+ people to change meet-up plans last minute because I'm not familiar with the restaurant's menu in advance. You adapt. It's part of learning to cope. I mean, if the people who did this were wheelchair bound and the venues selected didn't have access, I could understand the rage. But seriously. Most restaurants accommodate all kinds of crazy food allergies and dietary requirements if you tell the server when you order about them.

Hell, virtually every place I've been in the last month, short of a whole in the wall uyghur place, has a vegan section, a vegetarian section AND a gluten free section. If you can't find something in those sections or the rest of the menu that fits your needs, maybe you should consider packing your own food for meets.

>>6765988
wut

link to the post?

>>6763937
>>6763940
>>6763942

This bitch is crazy.
Is she smoking crack or something, geez!
Please report her to a mod.

>>6765988
>fat black girl
>wants to be the next Venus Angelic
tell me there are YT videos

>Fat fucks who try to excuse their own poor lifestyle by raving about "OMG ur so lucky to to be skinny and fit into burrando!"

Bitch, I exercise regularly and watch what I eat, luck has nothing to do with it, don't try to belittle my efforts just because you're a lazy fuck.

Also:
>"I can't fit into brand because my boobs are too big, teehee!"

Yes, unfortunately so is the rest of you.

Those cheapskates, you know the kind, who insist that all brand costs its weight in gold. And all girls with brand closets are privileged assholes, who don't know how hard it is to live a life in poverty. And then they go and order 300$ worth of bodyline/ebay, because 80$ for a shitty jsk and 10$ for shipping is so much more reasonable than a 60$ taobao dress with a 25$ shipping fee.


And then 6 months later they make a big "omg leaving lolita you guise" post with all that shit unworn and try to charge 120% of its original price.

>>6766293
>And all girls with brand closets are privileged assholes, who don't know how hard it is to live a life in poverty. And then they go and order 300$ worth of bodyline/ebay
THIS. I keep fucking telling this bitch to stop wasting her money on Bodyline and she'd have enough for second hand burando. Some bitches ain't got no self-control.

Girls who post worn dresses up for sale for more than they cost new because it's "SUPER RARE GAIZ" while it's currently in stock on the site...

>>know this one landwhale friend who claims to hate Korea because Japan is superior.
>>goes around shouting stupid shit like OPPAI.
>>even did that in front of that one Japanese Lolita and her kid.
>>wears crappy Iron Gate replica to Misako's tea party.
>>constantly harps on calories cause she's on a diet. Bitch just let me eat in peace.

List goes on. I just tolerate her cause my friends are friends with her.

I've been wearing lolita since 06 and I don't have any really awesome coords, and this chick in my community had a several like 6 months after she started and a shit ton now, like a year later. I guess I need a job that actually fucking pays!
That said, it pisses me off when people keep saying lolita's sooo expensive and they couldn't ever buy the clothes. If you're broke, yeah, you can't buy new releases or popular prints. But if you're mindful and set aside $25 every week, that usually can get you a major item that's unprinted every month and a half, or even in a month! Just buy used and don't get popular shit!

>>6766337

Your friends probably feel the same way, and no one has the guts to call out her shit.

>>6766285
>don't try to belittle my efforts just because you're a lazy fuck

And I suppose it's okay for you to belittle them and call them lazy when you don't know for a fact if whether they've seriously tried or not. Just because someone is fat doesn't necessarily mean they're lazy.
Stop being so sensitive and learn to take a compliment.

>>6766378
This. This is what grinds my gears.

>Don't pick on fatties ever. It's not their fault. If you don't like it then don't look. She's fat but not unhealthy.

It's not that hard to do low impact exercises around the house or educate yourself on nutrition.

I'm sick of fatties baaawing that they really tried and couldn't do it. You couldn't do it because it was too hard and you're a quitter.

>>6766399
>I'm sick of fatties baaawing that they really tried and couldn't do it.

Why are you being so willfully ignorant? For some people major weight loss (and no, not just losing 10 pounds, more like 80+) is a psychological challenge as well as a physical one. If it were so easy to change then there would be no such thing as nutritionists, psychologists, gastro surgeons, and trainers who specialize in helping the severely overweight and obese.

Stop being such a cunt and roping every person into one stereotype.
Sure, a person sitting on their ass eating twinkies everyday and complaining about their weight is one thing. But they're completely different than people who legitimately have tried to eat better and exercise and are frustrated with how their weight loss journey is going.

>>6766422
Different anon here but ain't no bitches saying weight loss is easy. It's way harder to lose weight than it is to gain it and that's obvious BUT that doesn't mean its impossible.

I will comisserate with you on your weight loss all damn day if you're activey tracking every calorie that goes into your mouth (and making sure the number is at or below your BMR) and you're exercising moderately 150 minutes a week or more.

If you're skimping on either of those, then this bitch right here has no time for your bullshittery.

As a super skinny lolita people are always commenting on my size and pretty much my response is "I work for this shit." 'cause I really really fucking do.

>>6765988
I think I know who you're talking about. What comm is she in?

>>6766442
>If you're skimping on either of those, then this bitch right here has no time for your bullshittery.

Haha that's not how things work sweetiekins.
Just because someone has a bad week, or has troubles with sticking to their routine doesn't make them a bad or 'lazy' person.
Oh and btw, when did anyone ever have to validate themselves to YOUR standards to not be considered "lazy"?

Different anon my ass, your ignorance is just the same.
Good for you that you work to keep your size, but get over your superiority complex girl. Sounds like the only thing people can compliment is your looks since your personality is too far up your own ass at the moment.

>>6766442
>as a super skinny
Well here's your asspat then.
Also, are you attractive? Or do people just bag it and tag it?

>>6766053
Kinda this but the opposite. People in my comm are very sweet about helping me with my food allergies as there are a lot of girls with eating requirements in my comm. I appreciate this really I do but it makes me feel like shit.

Sometimes I feel like people are bending over backwards to make food I can eat for events and stuff and it makes me feel so fucking guilty. I would willingly handle my own shit at just about any restaurant or meetup.

However there have been times when I've been told that it's covered for me and I believed them and didn't pack my own food (which I usually do) and then when I got there I basically got some fruit in a bowl. So I guess its cool if you want to be awesome and make some stuff for me to eat even with my allergies and I do appreciate that but if your idea of feeding me is throwing some fucking fruit at me and being like "that's a decent lunch for you right?" then don't act like you were thinking about me in the planning process.

>>6766442
BOOTSTRAPS!!

>>6766053
THIS. Holy cow

We have people bitch almost every meet because the menu 'doesnt suit their needs' when in all reality, everywhere we go has a veg/vegan/gluten free menu. I just... ARGGHHHHH

fucking midwest snowflakes.

>>6766458

It's possible they didn't know what the restaurant was going to give you. They probably just asked for an option that suited your needs and didn't go into detail. Or the restaurant lied and said it was more substantial than it actually was.

>>6766488
I think what anon meant was that someone had told her that there was food for her at something like a picnic/lunch meet (not a restaurant) but ended up only getting fruit....

>>6766442
This so much. I lost a chunk of weight myself and at first it was just learning and using some basic nutrition like, pasta isn't actually good for you, eat more veggies, dessert isn't a meal, don't give in to every temptation you come across. The next step was harder and one I fight pretty much every day. I nearly completely eliminated carbs and sweets from my diet. Every time holiday candy goes on the sale day after, it pretty much kills me to not buy all the bags of my favorite candies. I stupidly walk through the freezer isle at the grocery store and end up grabbing a frozen pizza or ice cream, then I feel like I have to eat it fast to get it out of my house to not temp me, then I end up wanting to buy more. There's vicious cycles that start when I give in to temptation and I will noticeably gain weight within a week.

My point is, people act like losing weight is the only struggle when in fact no, maintaining it is just as hard. I's annoying when people say I'm lucky for being thin, no bitch, I worked for this and I continue to work every day for it. I wish my struggle was just to eat smaller bowls of ice cream and skip the Snickers. Instead I almost never eat pasta, or rice, and I never drink sweetened drinks, not even juice, milk, or sugar in my tea.

In the end though, it's all worth it. I look great in clothing, and doing stuff doesn't make me so tired since I'm not dragging around extra weight.

Ex-friend of theme Ross Lolita

She got trolled by cgl when she got posted in BtB and G_S so I don't think there are any videos but she has some posts about it.

Ryungi.tumblr.com/tagged/Lolita/page/5 should have it the two Ross dresses

And she lives in Ga, but claimed to live in France til I called her out on it and now it's " oh I'm going to move to France" she's barely getting through school and she hopped on expensive meds she's not moving anywhere.

Before anyone says anything she was a major bitch to the majority of our group in high school and no one really liked her in our grade.

I'm the only girl in my comm that uses her real hair and doesnt wear wigs.
I'm attending meets regularly for about 2 years now (I'm much longer into the fashion though, since about 2008) but I still get asked where I bought my wig cause it looks so real and natural!!
I always cringe when I hear that and also comments like: "why do you spend so much time on your hair, wouldnt that be easier to just wear a wig instead" make me mad.
It makes me feel like a retard when I spend so much time on my hair and no one seems to appreciate it in my comm. They clearly give me the feeling that wigs became the standard and that I should feel out of place with my old fashioned real hair.

I hate it when comms are that much biased and dont accept different opinions or when they fear that someone who has an own sense of styling could ruin the image of the comm only because she doesnt want to look like a clone.

>>6766592
I had a feeling from the previous description that it was this girl

>>6766571
Can I say anon, you are an inspiration.

I am 5'3 and 145 pounds. I have been trying to lose the weight. I have been jogging in the morning. I have lost a little, but not enough. Similar to you, I have a sweet tooth. I love pasta too so that doesn't help either. I agree that it's a constant battle. After reading your post, I will try to be strong as well. I am not a lolita, but I do like otome. I promised myself after losing the weight I will buy myself and axes femme dress.

When I lived in Japan for a year about 2 years ago, I was 25 pounds lighter, because there wasn't so much temptation there.

I will never be a size 4 or smaller, but I do want to be healthy. Sorry for the rambling. Carry on.

My local comm seems to be half vapid womanchildren, there's like... four people you can have a decent conversation with. Feels bad, man. I don't get how people can just make dresses their whole life like that, they literally have no interests outside of lolita and cute animals.

>>6766600
yep thats her.
Totes lolita guys

>>6766594

I really appreciate lolitas with real hair rather than wigs, so kudos to you!

It doesn't grind my gears per se, but I just feel bad because when I make 'friends' in my comm I feel like all we have to talk about between us is the fashion and what we buy online. Or photography or cooking kawaii shit or watching our weights.

It all feels so superficial to me and I wish I could make friends with someone that I could feel comfortable with talking about other things.
I can't talk about jobs because none of them work.
I can't talk about school because they're either in high school or don't go to school.
And if I want to talk about important issues then all they know what to talk about is fucking feminist or gay culture issues from tumblr and nothing else.
Ugh. No documentaries, no museums, no world issues (outside of Japan), no nothing.

>>6766635
me too, like okay do we like any other things? I stopped going to meet ups because of that. And I was the only one under 21 and this one girl outted high schoolers cuz they start drama.

>>6766635
Then why are you looking to make friends through a fashion community? You shouldn't expect to have anything in common with people you meet through a shared fashion interest EXCEPT a shared fashion interest (anything else is a bonus), how is this not common sense...? Stop moaning and go meet other people.

>>6766644
It's a good way to meet other people though. You go in knowing you've got at least the fashion in common, then if you find someone who you can talk about other things with, that's great. I'm super lucky to have met two of my best friends through lolita meet ups, but I wouldn't have met them if it wasn't for us first meeting over the fashion.

>>6766644
>Then why are you looking to make friends through a fashion community?
It's rather presumptuous of you to think I only try to make friends in my lolita community.
Why are you so mad?

>>6766644
? Are you trying to say that in a group of people who have common interests, you should only expect to have that thing in common and that alone?

>>6766601
Aww, thank you!

A couple dieting tips for you if you're interested. I use to eat pasta every single day, it's my favorite. I hope your weakness is red sauce like me so this can work for you. I started throwing a lot of cooked veggies like zucchini, squash, carrots, and onions in to my pasta so I would eat more veggies and less pasta. Eventually I ended up pretty much with veggies in red sauce with a little pasta and at that point I felt weened from my pasta addiction. It's really useful to just start cooking veggies on their own so when you cut the carbs, you're familiar with simple veggie dishes.

For the sweets, and really most any carb, look up paleo recipes. All the flour and other grains get replaced with things like coconut, nuts, and flax so carbs and sweet treats actually become nutritionally packed. You still have to eat in some moderation because the sweets have some sugar still, but in the end, delicious cookies are no worse than eating lightly sweetened nuts.

Oh and other than walking about 15 minutes to and from work, I don't have any extra exercise in my diet. Dieting really is the big part of losing weight.

Hope that helps!

>>6766594
It definitely depends on the community. Once in my community, we realized all 12 of us at our table weren't wearing wigs. There was very few itas in this group as well. Wigs can look nice, but I much prefer the look of natural hair most of the time.

>>6766670
Not that anon, but this is helpful to me! I eat so much pasta and whilst I do throw some veg in, I don't decrease my pasta amount. The paleo recipe idea is also brilliant.

>>6766670
You're missing where you walk 30 minutes for what I assume is 5 days a week and therefore are getting the CDC reccomended amount of weekly exercise. You can diet all you want but if you're not getting some exercise on the side it might not do a damn thing.

I calorie restricted for 6 months and lost 4 lbs. I didn't restrict and just ate reasonably and exercised every day and lost 2lbs in 3 months.

>>6766449
>>6766474

You guys are missing the fucking point of my post. Weight loss isn't some weird mysticism, nutrition isn't magic, all of that shit I posted was motherfucking science.

Weight loss is a product of expending more energy than you take in. Your BMR is the amount of calories your body needs in a day if you don't move at all. You factor in the actual amount of exercise you do and adjust your intake so that you eat X number of calories a day and you expend Y. Y being > than X.

It's not rocket science. If you're not eating less than you expend you ARE NOT attempting weight loss. You're doing the exact opposite.

>>6766670
You're missing where you walk 30 minutes for what I assume is 5 days a week and therefore are getting the CDC reccomended amount of weekly exercise. You can diet all you want but if you're not getting some exercise on the side it might not do a damn thing.

I calorie restricted for 6 months and lost 4 lbs. I didn't restrict and just ate reasonably and exercised every day and lost 20lbs in 3 months.

>>6766700
And you're missing their points that while people may know about calorie restricting and exercise, that there's a legitimate psychological factor that may make this process more difficult for someone to be consistent with it.
Why can you not accept that? Don't you even realize how many overweight people actually have eating disorders?

>>6766706
>Don't you even realize how many overweight people actually have eating disorders?
A very small amount.
Obesity caused from eating disorders is a blip in the data, same with legit medical conditions that cause obesity and weight gain. The vast majority is from being raised not knowing how to eat, over-eating, eating too much junk food, etc. An eating disorder is not just having a craving like I'm sure many think it is. Like stated, even those who are thin still crave fat and junk, it's just a matter of giving in or not. In reality, if a person who is trying to lose weight drinks soda or eats chips (two items that are overly consumed and provide no nutritional value), then they really aren't trying. I'm not talking about you here, I'm talking about why we have an entire isle or two in most every grocery store dedicated to these items.

>>6766670
Thanks anon for your tips. I am going to try the cooked veggie substitution idea

When an event sounds awesome and you'd really like to go to it but the # of people who can go is limited to a very small number and only people you're indifferent to are going, no one you like.

And you know your friends would go except they scheduled this fun event on a shitty day and made a cutoff for the number of people who can attend.

>>6766721

>isles

Granted, the aisles in America could be likened to actual isles...

Nonetheless, I agree with the rest of your post. Too many times I've seen people complain that they can't lose weight because they can't exercise and they forget there's another factor in the equation. I'm not asking anyone to go completely anorexic or bulimic, but cutting soda and substituting healthier options for fries can go a long way. The idea is not a fad diet or 5 weeks of unsustained exercise - it's life decisions that can be sustained over one's lifetime.

>>6766670
I actually also do the vegg and red sauce without pasta as well. I cook ratatouille quite often and it always satisfies my pasta craving

>>6766957
One thing that helped me to get fitter was to stop taking escalators/elevators and take the stairs instead. It takes like a minute longer, if that, and you are getting a little bit more exercise into your daily life.

>>6765824
NOOOOO. Really?

I am laughing so fucking hard right now. Oh, oh, god.

GET PICS. WE MUST HAVE PICS.

>>6766721
>A very small amount.
Source?
>obesity caused from eating disorders is a blip in the data
Source of data?

Stop talking out your ass and I'll take what you're saying seriously.

>>6767226
go be fat somewhere else fatty

I'm not even thin, I'm admittedly chubby at 5'1" and 140lbs, but fucking I'm going to the gym 4 times a week and eating healthier and I'm steadily losing weight. It didn't take some magical change in my psychology, it took hard work. I stopped making excuses like you are now, joined an expensive gym (so I'd be motivated to use it) and stopped buying shitty food/cooked more. It's really simple, you just have to keep at it.

>>6767251
>ask for source of data
>SHUT UP FATTIE
Lunatic.

>>6767251
>It didn't take some magical change in my psychology
So you=everyone else.
Good to know your train of logic is if you can do something everyone else can. You're just pissed because someone asked where you got your bung figures you pulled out of your ass and you don't actually know what you're talking about.

>>6767144

I won't deny I'm not fit, but definitely coming to uni here and having to walk everywhere has done wonders for my stamina. I may not be able to run a marathon, but I can walk several miles without puffing now. On top of that, I used to have mad leg pains, but now it's gone down as long as I sleep well and remember to wear my insoles (I have the finickiest feet I swear, but exercise has gone a long way to shutting them up).

I'm not exactly fat, but exercise does help everyone. It's good to just walk around.

>>6767263
Different anon but the only eating disorder that could cause a huge amount of weight gain is binge eating which like all eating disorders is a control issue as well as a compulsive disorder. Only 2% of people are estimated to have this.
Then you have the very very very rare genetic disorders like prader willi syndrome (estimated to be less than 2%) that will almost make it impossible to be slim.
So I'm going to be generous and say besides the 3 1/2% of people who have sincere compulsive/genetic disorders really don't have much of an excuse. Yes. I understand that candy bars taste good. And I suppose it would be psychologically damning for you to resist eating them and exercise more but let me in on a little secret: most everyone with a slim figure has to do the same thing. Stop bitching and work at it.

>>6767306
> other people really don't have much of an excuse

>>6767306
>Different anon but the only eating disorder that could cause a huge amount of weight gain is binge eating

You could also have a compulsive eating disorder.
>2%
Where are you getting these numbers?

>Stop bitching and work at it
You can also stop directing your anger towards me. I'm not the one with the issues.
I'm arguing with you because you're wrong about something and I'm trying to educate you that not all people with weight issues are the same. Nor is the issue so black and white that it has to do with "ZOMG I CAN'T RESIST THIS CANDY BAR ONOMNOMNOM" haha, give me a fucking break.

>>6767327
I suppose if you are really bad at purging you can gain weight too

>>6767327

Compulsive eating disorder prevalences. Found a bunch of studies, some mediocre, some worse. There hasn't really been a proper study that was double blinded and accounting for different factors. Compulsive eating disorder has also been conflated with binge eating disorder. But here ya go

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02884965 claims 1.5% (poorly controlled, doesn't account for factors)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1892232/ 1.5% for bullimia nervosa, and 3.5% for binge eating disorder among women
http://www.nimh.nih.gov/statistics/1EAT_ADULT_RB.shtml claims 2.8% lifetime prevalence in US population
From http://www.apa.org/monitor/mar02/binge.aspx
"The disorder affects about 2 percent of the general population and 8 percent of people who are obese."

I'm on neither side. I'm just sick of people screaming "SOURCE SOURCE SOURCE" and people shitting out of their bum. Here's your fucking source.

>>6767306
>Binge eating disorder (BED) is the most common eating disorder in the United States affecting 3.5% of females and 2% of males and is prevalent in up to 30% of those seeking weight loss treatment.
>and is prevalent in up to 30% of those seeking weight loss treatment.
>those seeking weight loss treatment

Oh yeah, binge eating is soooooooo rare. Jfc.
It's still a public health concern and a legitimate concern among people trying to lose weight.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1892232/
>"Binge-eating disorder as a distinct familial phenotype in obese individuals". Archives of General Psychiatry

Christ.

>>6767354
>Here's your fucking source.
Thanks you loud-mouthed whore, so you're still going to sit there and act like 2% of the general population is some small ass, obscure number that shouldn't be recognized?
Oh and not to mention people that go undiagnosed, and other such silly variables that might effect studies like the ones you just cited.

>>6767361

I'm sort of twitching here how they say that's it's a distinct phenotype. Like, anything could be a phenotype, but it isn't necessarily genetically linked. It could be really bad coping mechanisms that were passed socially from generation to generation, sibling to sibling. It's not necessarily genotypic, and I'm sure if they found the proper gene locus, they would have put it in. But for now, we can't assume that it's either genetic or social.

>>6767376
Well how about this: Go get your degrees in the psychiatric and medical fields and then you can write the books and essays criticizing these journals, m'kay? Until then the -professionals- are gonna diagnose and categorize things as they see fit.

>>6767371

Whoa, I just said I'm on neither side you assuming cunt. I don't give a fuck but neither side was providing sources. And guess what? I did. They're not halfassed studies in some journals for the most part, and even if they are fucking flawed, it's better than the flatus I've been seeing here between the two fuckwad arguments you guys have been having.

>>6767380
>I'm not on either side!
>still getting this mad
Sure you're not.

>they're not halfassed studies!
Just because you get them from a .gov database doesn't mean they aren't foolproof or that they do not have margins of error.
Take a statistics course, and throw your little tantrums in there.

>>6767354
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1892232/
9282 person sample size which was taken from 2001-2003 records.
Not only is that a small sample size to really compare this data to people as a nation, but the study itself is over 10 years old.
>http://www.nimh.nih.gov/statistics/1EAT_ADULT_RB.shtml
You don't think a 2.8% lifetime prevalence of an eating disorder is alarming and a lot?

>>6767354
>and people shitting out of their bum
as opposed tooooo

>>6767413
Having it come out of their mouth like that idiot's (>>6767380) words do. And they would be an expert on which way the shit comes out since they do it all the time I'm sure.

>>6767402

I just said study was less than mediocre. I never said a 2.8% prevalence was low or high That's 28 people per thousand, and would probably make up a good percentage of people with disorders in specialist clinic like a psychiatry setting. What made you think I said it was low? I'm amazed how you managed to pull that I'm siding with the thin people on this one.

>>6767423

There was a circlejerk of "Stats!" "Show your source" "GO DIE FATTY" "LOL YOU CUNT"

Fully Maxed Shirring.
Just because it has elastic in the entire bodice doesn't mean it should be worn stretched to three times the minimum measurement.
This isn't about you being too fat. It's about the dress being too small. Get over it and find another dress.

>>6767464
On a related note, does full shirring look good on anyone ever?

>>6767480
In my opinion, no.

>>6767480
I've honestly never ever seen it look good on anyone.

>>6767402
"Damnit, these studies back up the opposite opinion from me. I'd better hand pick the few I can find with obvious flaws, then it'll look like I'm right!"

>>6767354
These are people who actually are diagnosed, though. It still doesn't account for the (possibly a looot more) people who aren't, because they couldn't afford it or didn't want it for various reasons.

Idk I'm just tired of seeing the whole WILLPOWER!!!! thing for losing weight. While yeah, I agree that little things go a long way and junk food are shit and should only be eaten in small amounts (or not at all), context and life situations also matter a lot when it comes to being healthful.

>saging for further derailing the thread

>>6764702

Thanks for the cap, which I completely agree with. It wasn't your intent, but I'm glad to see that the truth is being told around here.

>>6767361
>prevalent in up to 30% of those seeking weight loss treatment.
That is only those who have gone to the doctor seeking help in weightloss. Anyone trying to lose weight who hasn't been to the doctor about it isn't in there, so the 30% doesn't work for this argument.

>>6767653
>I'd better hand pick the few I can find with obvious flaws
Well out of the ones listed, those two are the only ones that had any sort of promising substance.
You sound really butthurt.

>>6767855
>Anyone trying to lose weight who hasn't been to the doctor about it isn't in there, so the 30% doesn't work for this argument.
So you're saying that number might actually be higher? Yeah, you're right. It probably is.

Friends who constantly bitch about needing to lose weight. And then when we go grocery shopping they do shit like hold up a bottle of lemonade and say "Oooh look! Fat free!"

Or one who claims to be vegetarian, but didn't know what protein was.

>>6766449
>sweetiekins

I hope you are abandoned by all you hold dear.

>>6767961
You shouldn't try to bring others down to your level.

>>6767480
I feel like fully shirred dresses usually best if worn with a cardigan instead of a blouse. It keeps the smocked texture from being overwhelming. But usually, it's girls wearing the dress because it's STRETCHY! YAY! And there's no way in hell that looks good.

Anyone who isn't a professional model or celebrity but has their own facebook fanpage ruffles my petticoat.

>>6765647
sneakers are dumb, hipster looking glasses are dumb, pose is dumb, her coord is fine, she's fine, you calm your tits.

>>6763722
>http://egl-comm-sales.livejournal.com/21016089.html
Girl is seriously looking for an MMM dress, two MM dresses and an MM COAT for $100 each including shipping.

Can't tell if troll or delusional, honestly.

>>6768299
Honestly, I call troll... Between this and her posts before.

>>6767480
I've seen Jola pull it off, but she usually took out the row of shirring that cut across the largest part of the bust to keep it from looking too lumpy.

another friend of mine looks fab in Meta's Candy Star Rabbit jsk, she's plus-sized and makes great coords too.

>>6768332
Candy Star Rabbit isn't fully shirred tho?

>>6768375
This version is. :)

http://lolibrary.org/node/3228

When bitches wear their JSKs without a blouse, I just...ugh. I know that it can be hot, I know that it can be uncomfortable. But wear chiffon or something, please? It doesn't look tacky or ita or slutty or anything. It just looks incomplete, like one piece in the center of a 400 piece jigsaw puzzle is missing. It's just wrong.

My boyfriend grinds my frilly gears, and not in the good way. Usually, I don't mind much, but...

>A maid headdress would totally work for your b/w AP OP, Anon!
>All prints are disgusting.
>You don't need a headbow or anything on your head, anon.
>You should wear more JSKs without blouses for summer!
>Boleros are gross.

Sometimes it's not bad (I chalk it up to his main prior experience with lolita being animu and dolls), but sometimes he gets pissy if I go against one of those...

>>6766635

I know this feel. Every time I try to make friends with other lolitas the conversation never goes past the superficial things. Come on, I know there are girls out there who enjoy video games and anime outside of the shitty more mainstream stuff just as much as I do. I see them reblog that shit on Tumblr all the time! They always seem to either not really know about it, or they are pretending not to, I guess. I don't know.

>>6768482

My boyfriend always jokes about how he's going to break up with me and steal my dresses for himself. He is a bully ;_;

>>6768578
Tumblr makes things hard. You'll get people who reblog things that are funny/entertaining without having any real interest in the source. I've been guilty of it myself, a few times. So it may be that while they reblog the things you like, they don't actually know much about them first hand.

To whoever made THIS secret.

Do I know this girl irl? No. Do I know someone with legs EXACTLY LIKE HERS? Yes.

Excuse me while I start my rant. Those legs? I would happy place money down she has some sort of thyroid disorder or autoimmune disease, because they look IDENTICAL to the legs of my loved one with Graves Disease. Excuse me, fat nor muscle exactly wander their way about there. If it is, which I bet it is, then this is a horrible circumstance which takes place literally overnight with the disease and can not be cured. It can trigger horrible leg pain in some people, and can also go hand-in-hand with an incapability to walk up stairs.

Seriously, lolita who posted this secret, gtfo. Her coord is fine, I bet she has a nicer face than yours, and she sure has more of a backbone than you.

>>6766635
on the contrary i enjoy keeping my relationship with other lolitas superficial and casual. that way i won't get caught up in whatever mess they are in, plus lolita is an escapade from a shitty work life i have. no way am i going to talk about my work with people i met in lolita/when wearing lolita. i already detest it enough.

> always the same people organizing meets
Always the same non organizers who complain about details
>STFU

>>6768578
>never goes past the superficial things.
>video games and anime
Sorry, but you just sound like you're a stuck-up, annoying weeb who wants to interrupt my conversation about what we are wearing (at a fashion meet), and what has been going on in our lives.

In my community, we have itas you can talk that shit with. Enjoy.

>>6768623

Not at all. I just want to make friends with girls who are interested in the same things I am. I don't mind if we are only acquaintances who talk about lolita, that's fine. But it would be nice to at least find one person who is similar to myself and has the same interests to be friends with. I don't interrupt with anime and video game stuff unless it seems like it's okay to talk about or someone brings it up, either. That would be rude.

>>6768623

This argument doesn't make any sense. How self-absorbed do you have to be to spend time, effort and money on shit you refuse to connect with? Isn't the point of a meetup to be drawn in by mutual interests and possibly take it further for some people?

A conversation about such and such auction and such and such burando can only span so many meets as a whole.

Also
>what has been going on in our lives
Like playing fucking video games?

Not even that anon. I'm just really confused.

>>6768623
Wow, defensive aren't we?
There's only so much you can talk about when it comes to the clothes you're wearing, you know? Like, do you just talk about coords and auctions and burando in every single meetup? That sounds pretty dull, tbh. Nobody said anything about personal lives, the anon before just mentioned similar or other hobbies related to lolita.

As it is it sounds like you just go to meetups to show off what you're wearing and nothing more.

Something that really grinds my gears is people in the comm trying to make everyone act a certain way and getting all buttfrustrated over certain things and then getting bitch pissy when someone mentions they like the 'lifestyle' aspect of it(and not even just the spechul snoflak rori at heart) people who actually take the lifestyle into consideration.
These people get so enraged and say 'OMG IT'S JUST CLOTHES' but then are so anal about toooons of shit like they're not. Stuff like where we go to eat/activities, how some people act, just these 'no fun allowed' types.

>>6767251
I'm REALLY REALLY fat, here.
The problem I have is that you can really bust your balls to make a change and it's like "I've been doing everything to lose weight that I can for 4 months and I lost one inch off my waist! Fuck this I am going to go eat some chicken."

It's just not worth it. I put my info into that losertown website and it was like "Based on your activity level and calories, you should hit your goal weight in a year!"

So a whole year of trying to do all the other shit I need to do to try to get my career together, with no stress eating, no eating with friends, the OCCASIONAL chocolate I have to feel bad about, and feeling hungry as fuck every time I eat anything that's not on the list of like six foods that are in my price range and contain a high enough amount of protein and fiber?

Seriously, I can't even eat a fucking piece of fruit because I feel hungry as all every loving fuck all day.

It's probably just better to be fat. I'm 27. By the time I lose all that weight I'll be too old to be attractive or wear any alternative fashions anyway.

>>6767306
Keep in mind also that certain psych meds that maybe another 2-5% of the population are taking can cause weight gain or make it very difficult to lose weight.

>>6768662
You know, people aren't actually super mad at people for being fat persay, it's for having no self control...I personally only like chubby guys as far as types go, but once they get to a certain point it's a bit gross, yes, but being outwardly large really just shows lack of self control, which you exhibit fairly well just from this post.

>>6768660

I agree. As nice as it would be to be friends with someone or people in general who has/have similar ideals/lifestyle to me, people need to realize that lolita is a hobby, and in all hobbies you're going to have all kinds of different people from all walks of life. I think it's better that way, though, because then it makes it seem nicer that all kinds of different people are interested in our silly hobby, and it's not just one type of person, really. It makes it seem more... normal, I guess? If that makes any sense.

>>6768667
It's not a lack of self control. Trust me... I have a severe mental illness which means if I didn't have self control I'd be locked up, and I'm not trying to be edgy.

It's more a lack of belief that anything is actually going to happen. I ate a calorie deficit and walked every day, with cardio every 2-3 days for 4 months, I'm down almost 30 lbs, and I'm basically going to have to do this shit, including not buying any new clothes, not eating anything I enjoy eating, and never getting to do anything fun at all forever.

Fitting into some clothes and gaining slightly more acceptance from my peer group does not seem worth it. Four months of trying my ass off and no worthwhile return on my investment. It's like getting a job and they keep telling you eventually you'll get paid.

>>6768676
>I'm basically going to have to do this shit, including not buying any new clothes, not eating anything I enjoy eating, and never getting to do anything fun at all forever.

This is the attitude I can't stand. Every single person in the world has to do things like that. You're not special just because you're ~fat~ Life fucking sucks, and tbh, if all of your joy disappears when you can't eat your life is pretty sad. The part that most annoys me is that you just said that something happened right after you said you didn't think anything was going to happen. Clearly something did. Everyone has to set goals and work at them. They're hard and annoying, but if everyone just gave up after 4 months then nothing would get done ever.

>>6768663
Correlation does not equal causation! The weight gain isn't caused by the medication, the medication just makes it easier for you to gain weight. If you exercise and watch your diet it wont magically add on pounds.

I know about difficult to lose weight. Anons got a little butthurt earlier when I said I was a "super skinny" but I'm a thin girl with PCOS and there was a time when I was almost overweight. I still lost 20 lbs because I worked at it despite the fact that my body in particular tends to retain excess weight.

So even though I have a condition I could whinge about and say "oh this is why I'm fat I can't help it," I never ever ever EVER said that.

It's not your medical condition that makes you fat, it's your medical condition that makes it easier for you to become fat but YOU can take steps to prevent that.

>>6768707
Stop trying to bring logic into this kind of thing, it never works ever. People are putting too much personal emotional feelings where they don't belong and making issues into asspat baww fests.

>>6768662
This is the real problem with weight loss around the world. People will never change their lifestyles if they don't think the amount of effort they need to put in is worth the return. Same reason people smoke when they know its horrible for you.

For you specifically anon, I'd try to get out and walk for at least 150 minutes a week and see a nutritionist about what you're eating if you want to get serious about weight loss. It's easier to change when your young and will only get harder with age.

>>6767870
THIS. "Oh I'm super dieting right now, tee hee. Let me eat 6 bagels in one sitting, 'cause that counts as calorie deficit, right?"

>>6768711

I agree. I'm sorry, it is unfortunate that you have other issues at hand or maybe terrible things have happened to you before and that is really terrible. But it just seems weird to me to blame that for why you are overweight. You should try to be strong and if you really think your issues are why you are overweight, don't let them overtake you and ruin your life, be strong and lose weight to show that your issues are not in control of you and your life.

>>6768713
>I'd try to get out and walk for at least 150 minutes a week
>thinking walking for less than three hours a week is going to fucking help someone that's overeating or binging
Lol, stop trying to peddle this unto people like it's some magic cure-all.
This may be an adequate workout for someone that's not overweight, but an overweight person needs to be doing much more than this to be "serious" about weight loss.
For crying out loud.
The only helpful thing in your entire paragraph was saying to go see a nutritionist.

>>6768707
>Correlation does not equal causation
Are you seriously denying that there aren't medications that cause direct weight gain? Are you mad?

I fucking hate those girls who bring their (non-lolita involved) boyfriends to every meet-up. At first there were only happening occasionally but now it feels like when I go to meet-ups I'm invading on couple's double dating or something.

>>6768730

I'm really really shy and have pretty bad social anxiety, and my boyfriend is really sweet and helps me to not feel nervous and encourages me to go and talk to people, so if he wasn't there I would just spaghetti everywhere. I feel rude about him being there, but he does know about lolita and likes it himself, too. Plus sadly he is my only friend.

I think as long as it's not an every time kind of thing, or the couple isn't like, doing really heavy PDA and are obviously there to be involved with the hobby and such, then I think it's okay. I also think it is okay if the boyfriends don't dress up as long as they aren't in any pictures or activities or the place the meet is at isn't anywhere fancy or anything, like in a park or something.

I don't know why some girls get really mad about boyfriends being there, I guess. It doesn't bother me at all as long as they know their boundaries and aren't rude about it.

>>6768730
I can understand a "once in a while" thing, but there are these two lolis in my comm who insist on bringing their boyfriends to every meet. Oh wait I'm sorry, they're married but they live in different cities and the guys know nothing about lolita so it makes for awkward conversation when we do bring it up. I remember one time this "husband" was like "Oh I didn't know you wore wigs." to his wife. Am I the only one confused that a husband wouldn't know she wore wigs..?
Wouldn't be so bad if it didn't always turn into their double date (the two couples are good friends).
I wish that more significant others could be like what >>6768733 said.

>>6768791

Ah yeah, that does sound kinda bad. If you wanted to do something about it, just make it seem like because of the closeness of the 2 couples, it makes it seem like the rest of the group is alienated and you want it to be more like a group/community outing, and not just some girls, and then a group of other girls and their boyfriends, so that everyone can feel included, single or not.

>>6768730
If they're cool, sociable, know enough about lolita to hold a conversation, and fun--I don't mind even if they're not dressed like the rest of us.

However, 90% of the time, especially in our comm lately, it's been socially retarded, awkward, ugly faggots that come along with lolitas, who are usually ita at best.

Leave your boyfriend at home. He's ugly and no one cares.

I hate meetups and comms. The idea of bringing a bunch of people with nothing in common but just clothes to me is ridiculous and a recipe for disaster. Jealous poorfags, annoying itas, bitchy entitled girls. The fake niceties and then catty talking behind peoples' backs. It's all there, and it's really annoying. I only ever hang out with my comm 1 or 2 times, I make my friends and then I wear lolita whenever with who ever for any reason.

>>6768796
Yeah. A few of us ended up just throwing our own meet ups without them since their availability is so limited, but it's hard to get people together without them. If it keeps getting to this point I'm definitely going to try saying what you've suggested. Thanks anon~

>>6768730

Augh, this.

And as much as I want to say that >>6768733
is alright and fine, the story reminds me too much of all of the girls in my comm who bring their boyfriends and stick to them like glue and refuse to talk to anyone else without encouragement from them. It just seems so high school like.

I can't help but feel that the single girls are just jealous. In my comm there are a bunch of high school seniors and early twenties and then there are a handful of women in their mid twenties. The women in their twenties are all in relationships and the younger girls aren't. The thing is.....the girls always make remarks on the the fact that they don't have boyfriends or that they wish more guys were into the fashion. It was really awkward because I recall a time when I was holding my boyfriend's hand and so did another couple while we were walking and one of the girls just sighed and said 'Well I feel like a third wheel' as if holding hands is now off the table and WAY too affectionate? Should I never touch my boyfriend in public?

>>6765767

Why the hell would you make all that effort to repost instead of just reblogging if you're not after the notes yourself anon? That doesn't make any sense.

>>6768847
I'm not going to lie I get sort of jelly because I can't hold my gfs hand in public because the area I'm in is homophobic

>>6768847
That sounds kind of envious, yeah.
In my comm all the guys who show up are awkward and ungroomed and seem simultaneously uncomfortable and overexcited to be surrounded by so many girls. It's especially bad when they're not boyfriends but brothers or whatever and they start hitting on girls and ugh ugh I wish they'd go away. No I don't want to date them. No no no.

I personally prefer meetups that are 100% lolitas, no boyfriends or other normally-dressed tagalongs at all. I just want to sit around being frilly and batty and ruffly and them being there breaks the spell. It's obviously an unpopular opinion, though, so I keep it to myself.

>>6768917
No, I agree.
Unless the boyfriend/brother whatever the fuck is wearing a corresponding fashion I don't get why they're there.
If a guy showed up on his own without a coord we'd think it was creepy, why should it be any different just because he's boning one of us?

The only guy that comes along to our comm is a cool guy that makes an effort to dress for the occasion and there's never any of those PDA shenanigans.

>>6768855

I live in a Texas, and I will hold my girlfriend's hand. Fuck em all, anon.

>>6768676
You lost 30lbs in 4 months? That is incredible to me. I can't eat any refined carbs or sugar (in addition to exercising everyday) if I want to lose weight, and I still only lose a few pounds a month if that.

>>6768940
Yep, it's possible. I'm like the anon from (>>6768676). Two summers ago I got really depressed about my weight (5'3 230 at the time) so beginning in July I started tracking calories and walking/jogging 3-6 miles a day. Sometimes I biked. I only allowed myself 1200 calories per day.
I was at 201 pounds by September.

Unfortunately I get super depressed during the fall and winter seasons, I'm stuck in the house a lot. This winter was particularly bad. I'm back up to 240 again from being 208 in september. It truly is awful. I went to get my depo shot the other day and the new male gyno in there said "So, have you ever thought of getting on a treadmill?" I didn't say anything but I was like, wow.

But despite this I was able to qualify for a lap band recently. I had to prove that I've been struggling with my weight for over five years, I even had to show them documentation from when I did weightwatchers. So I'm hoping this coupled with some therapy will help control some of my depression and binge eating.
It just makes me mad when people assume I'm some lazy bitch stuffing my face with twinkies. I don't even remember the last time I had a soda or candy bar.

>>6768917
>I personally prefer meetups that are 100% lolitas, no boyfriends or other normally-dressed tagalongs at all. I just want to sit around being frilly and batty and ruffly and them being there breaks the spell. It's obviously an unpopular opinion, though, so I keep it to myself.

I agree and I wish more people thought like this.

When people who aren't interested in wearing the fashion want to come to meets to see what lolitas in person or whatever. If you want to look at our group, that's what photos are for. Coming to an event only to stand in the corner gawking at everyone is fucking weird and creepy.

>>6768721
God I know, how dare I educate people on the CDC recommended amount of weekly exercise to promote good health.

I think you need to read about correlation and causation as well. There is no medication ever that you take and instantaneously gain weight. That's not how it works.

Sometimes I wish it wouldn't cause a shit storm if we made a no itas allowed meetup. Just once, JUST ONCE, I'd like to have an awesome meetup somewhere where everyone took care to dress themselves and no one looked like crap or brought their weird hipster/gothy non-lolita friends.

But that'd be mean or something so I'll forever be cropping fat nasty bitches out of my photos.

>>6768975
>how dare I educate people on the CDC recommended amount of weekly exercise to promote good health.

It's called a recommendation for a reason you nit. Just because it's good enough for the average person doesn't mean it's a model that fits for everyone.
Even telling them to read the /fit/ sticky would be better than the horseshit you've said.

And who said anything about medications "instantaneously" making a person gain weight? It happens over time, so ofc "instant" weight gain doesn't work like that.
But you are a retard if you don't think certain medications screw with your metabolism and apetite.

>>6768985

She said there are plenty of meds that help you gain weight, but to blame your meds entirely on your weight is fucktarded, and if you'd extract your head from your rectal cavity, you'd understand that.

And, really, why you so mad? Afraid of walking? Boo-hoo~

>>6768995
>but to blame your meds entirely on your weight is fucktarded
Who said that in this thread? Oh yeah, nobody, it's an argument you invented to make your point seem relevant.

Go fuck yourself.
>mfw I just got back from a walk

>>6768996

Fatty-Chan, does denial run in your family?

Wait, nothing runs in your family.

>mfw I just got back from a walk

The walk from the computer to the fridge doesn't count, Fatty-Chan~

>>6768995
Oh come on, you're not even making any sense here. She said that's not ENOUGH exercise and she's right. That's just over twenty minutes of walking a day and that's not going to do anything for anyone unless it's accompanied by extreme dieting, in which case the exercise is still pretty pointless because you're dieting that seriously. I'm reminded of a story some kind of nutrionist or personal trainer or something posted here once, about a girl who was too weak to hit the gym but started using a dance mat to play all her Playstation games so that she'd be getting a lot of exercise daily in a way that didn't put too much stress on her joints and was fun. Something like that is going to do a lot more for you than just walking.

>>6769000
Haha you're very upset, and you're calling me mad? Sorry, unlike you troll-kun, some of us actually take a few hours from our computers to go do productive things than argue on 4chinz. You have fun tho <3

And remember, everyone that disagrees with you is a fattie in denial~

Bitches don't know about Seroquel and other anti-psychotics
I was on a 1300 calorie diet and exercised four times a week and a month later I was thirty pounds heavier. I could visually see the weight gain from day to day. Then I went off of it and lost the weight and more after 6 months. I would say that most medications don't instantaneously make you gain weight, but anti-psychotics are the exception.

>>6769026
She's just an idiot and there's no point in arguing with her.

Fuck, I'm an ex-ana with a visceral repulsion to fat people who sometimes struggles to eat more than 500 cal a day. And even I know her shit's all retarded.

>>6769038
I know right, evidence based nutrition and health education is such bullshit.


Bitch please.

>>6769026

I was also on Seroquel at one point as well, Anon. I am a really tiny girl and I have a very small appetite (no more than 2 small meals a day is usually enough for me), I'm 5 ft and 90 lbs normally. But when I was on it I gained about 30 lbs in 6 months or so just from it increasing my appetite. When I went off of it I lost all of the weight because I went back to having my normal food cravings, it was so weird. But I can definitely see how if I stayed on it for any longer I would have gained a lot more weight for sure.

The idiot replica supporters who can't for the life of them understand why people are anti-replica and chalk it all up the us just being elitists with no valid reasons. Note I'm not talking about all replica supporters, just the imbeciles who somehow don't get the reasons against them.

AP fans who can't admit some of that shit looks like straight up age play. I'm a self-admitted AP clone, but if you seriously try to look me in the eye and say dresses like Toy Parade aren't age play worthy, you're in denial. That doesn't necessarily mean they're not cute or that you shouldn't wear them, just don't get so defensive and try so hard to deny what it looks like to the outside world.

Tea parties. Instantly ruin any coord for me.

Girls who get massive followings, but have no originality, just a shit ton of brand sets.

The idea that to be a lolita you have to act like one. Luckily only newfags tend to have this mentality.

The idea that there's no rules in lolita and that those who follow them are elitist bitches. Again, only newfags think it, but it's still annoying.

>>6769026

Oh my fucking god Seroquel, tell me about it gurl because I am FEELIN' DEM FEELS.

Used to be 109lbs, went up to 140 on that shit, currently sitting at 127 because birth control is making me hungry :(

I don't think it's a case of the fat magicking out of nowhere, but it turns you in a ravenous beast who constantly needs to eat otherwise you feel like you're starving. It's crazy.

>>6769280
Just because it's "age play worthy" doesn't mean you can't coord it in a way that makes you look 12. Cadney frequently wears super sweet prints but still looks like a young woman, not a child.

besides, age players tend to have no fashion sense. easy to tell the difference between ageplay and lolita. you actually have to try to make a good lolita outfit.

And I hate the idea of "acting like a lolita" too, holy shit. My friends and I go to meets and talk about whatever we want and swear as much as we like, we don't change who we are just because we're wearing nice clothes.

Agreed with the brand sets too, so boring. Mix it up with the accessories or it just makes you look like an ad for the brand. Bland, bland, bland.

>>6769350
Well age play worth is the same as age play to people in the real world. Even though I know age players that think lolita is gross and only like some AP casual pieces because they look little girly.

>>6769329

Fuck prescription drugs that make you gain weight. Shit sucks. I got on an SSRI because I had major depression last year, now I'm 30+ pounds heavier despite watching my calories and exercising weekly. :( Feels bad man.

and the drowsiness from the meds are almost as bad as the fatigue I had from my depression. fucking great.

>>6769355
I can see how some prints can look age play-ish to the average person, but I'm so tired of people saying all AP is age play. It's stupid. Twin Etoile doesn't look like age play. That print and several of their new releases aren't toy themed at all.

>>6769355

"age play worth"

what the fuck, every lolita dress looks "age play worth" to people in the real world, it's not just AP, wear innocent world in powder blue, wear something white or something pink. I guarantee you someone will think you're an age player.

I don't know where you guys live that everybody sees someone in a frilly dress and automatically assumes they're an ageplayer. Actually, where do you live that anyone and everyone even knows what ageplay is? Where I live, most people heard of it for the first time because of a Channel 4 documentary a couple of months ago.

>>6769365
I love AP but that's delusional. Classic and gothic don't read as 'trying to dress up as a little girl' most of the time in the same way sweet does.

>>6769390
Normalfags have no idea what ageplay is, I think they mean more generally that you're trying to look like a little kid, not the whole "I'm gonna shit in a diaper and jack off" thing.

>>6768645
>spend time, effort and money on shit you refuse to connect with
Except I don't spend any of that on anime and video games, so why would I want to talk about it? The mutual interest is the fashion, then yeah we talk about other things, but the way the anon phrased it, they act like mainstream is way not cool and only the non-superficial people talk about interesting things like anime and video games.

>>6768656
My issue was this line:
>I know there are girls out there who enjoy video games and anime outside of the shitty more mainstream stuff
Because anything this anon doesn't like is now considered shitty?

>>6769408
Inb4 angry ageplayers I know that's not all ageplay is, just an example of its most negative connotation.

>>6769408
That's just delusional. I was told I looked like a little school girl when I wore IW. It was just a floral dress and blouse too. Tights and boots even!

>>6769438
I have also heard this happen to my classic friends. One's mother said she looked like she was wearing a dress a girl would wear to church. It's not just sweet necessarily.

>>6769438
That's really weird, maybe you look like a schoolgirl? If anything classic looks grandma. And gothic just looks gothic, doesn't look like a little kid whatsoever.

>>6769445
I think almost anything lolita gets labeled as looking like little girl clothing. Mostly the stuff that has the more full bell/cupcake skirts and bell sleeves tend to get labeled as looking like little girls clothing.

>>6769452
Gothic can, sometimes- I had a teacher once tell me I looked like a dour Victorian girl when I was wearing what was, purposely, a coord modeled after that exact aesthetic, with a brimmed hat and a pinafore style dress.

The aesthetic can go girlish in any style, or more mature, it definitely depends WHAT you're wearing. A more mature rococo-styled sweet outfit is a lot less girlish than say a Toy Parade one, or heck any dress with a less defined waist, more pinafore-like dress; a classic outfit can go mature like >>6769216 (imo a blazer really helps take any outfit out of 'little girl' zone), and like I said gothic can too.

It's all about the aesthetic of that particular coord, not entire styles unto themselves.

>>6768852
People like to post photosets, and I only want one photo from the set. Also, I tend to save pictures to my computer and then decide to upload them later for whatever reason.

>>6763702
Also on topic: egl posts that consist of nothing but a link to the owner's blog for the content. lolnope.jpg

ugh the cheapness of every girl on every sales comm. i saw a girl ask for shipping on a $50 item and balk at an extra $8 to get it. really?! the fatties are the worst on that score. a girl had a $200 jsk made from that carouskel fabric that would fit up to a 45" bust, hard enough to find, really nice-looking, and everyone was crying about the price. no, fat girls, it's hard enough to find things that will fit you, double-hard to find things that look nice. so give up and shell out.

>>6768662
Girl, I am with you. Super fat and 26. And it's okay, it is really hard. I was doing well for a while and I fell off the wagon and gained what I lost and more back. But I'm determined to get back to it. Even if you think you're too old or whatever for weight loss to be worth it, it *is* still worth it. If you're really having a hard time losing weight while exercising 3-4 hours a week and eating a marginal amount of calories (roughly 1200 or so minimum, depending on what you do for exercise and how much you want to lose), then you could have a thyroid condition.

>>6769892
This so much! I've had people give up after I quoted the cheapest shipping of like $5. It's as if people think you're gonna be like "OH! NO SHIPPING FOR YOU, PLUS I'LL TAKE $10 OFF THE FULL PRICE!" And everyone and there grandma does the same thing.

>i'm on the opposite side of the world
>can i get this heavy ass thing shipped in a box for only $2?
no
>oh, how much is the cheapest shipping
it's $15
>oh...well okay then can you lower the price
...no
>oh...sorry...i actually don't want this now.
Something else that bothers me in the same area.

>omg i loooove this can you do $55 shipped?
yeah sure.
>cool thank you!
okie can i have your paypal?
...
...
...
>actually I don't have money

Every fucking time. I block people who do that shit almost immediately.

One more and I promise I'm done.

>posting DT/WTB posts
>list explicitly what I do and do not want
>OMG DO YOU WANT ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID YOU DON'T WANT?!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

>>6763702
Black guys

>>6769408
>they mean more generally that you're trying to look like a little kid, not the whole "I'm gonna shit in a diaper and jack off"

They think that trying to look like a little kid means that you shit in diapers and gets off to that.

Normalfags are full of misconceptions and never listen to anyone who tries to correct them.

>>6768957
i hope you complained about that gynecologist extensively to the office manager or someone, because that's rude no matter what size you are. i am in your same boat- i was doing well losing weight for a couple months, and then i had a car accident and stopped my routine and i ballooned to 230. i am getting back on the train as soon as i can, i'm determined, just because i'm sick of feeling this way and i'm starting to outfat the few things i have.

I think my biggest pet peeve is definitely the ~great petticoat debate~, like, um, nobody's debating anything, you look deflated and subpar without a petti, that's that.

Also the whole "acting like a lolita" thing is ridiculous. It's a style. Not a way of being. Related to this, I really realllyyy hate it when girls pretend to have, like, a "kawaii" voice, like they make it all high-pitched and stuff. It's just so grating. Like, the one girl from Tasty Peach Studios does it and like damn she's so adorbs and so is all of the merchandise but WHY ARE YOU DOING THAT TO YOUR VOICE.

>>6770021
>OMG DO YOU WANT ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID YOU DON'T WANT?!

I know your feel. So bad.
Also
>NO TRADES
>hey do you wana trade...
>ONLY TRADES, I'M NOT LOOKING INTO BUYING
>hey, I have these for sale!

>>6770038
is the tasty peach girl faking it or is that her actual voice? she and i chatted for a while at shuto and she never dropped it once. i would think holding your voice at an artificial pitch like that would hurt, and i've met a couple people in real life with that same light, squeaky, "Quinn Morgendorfer" tone.

>>6768686
My life IS really bad.
Something TECHNICALLY happened. Literally no one in my life except me can tell I lost any weight. No meaningful change. Is it really worth it to give up all that?

Basically, I'm broke as fuck, I work 2+ jobs, I suffer from depression, and I'm single. I have no family. I can buy food without feeling bad about it. I can eat what I want when I can't afford to do anything else. >>6768713
I already walk for about an hour daily, and do cardio above and beyond that when I can. Can't afford a nutritionist- I went to see one briefly as a kid but the only local one is like a 3 hour drive from here, on top of crazy hospital fees.
>>6768940
Wait, that's good? Because it just seems useless to me. This isn't my first serious attempt, but... I can gain that much weight in like a month. I've been making losing weight like another full time job, only I never get paid. I feel like other people should be able to see a physical difference by now...

It's like, would you devote a year of your life to working a full time job where you don't get paid?

>>6770038
>>6770052

I wonder that too. She's a totally nice person but her voice bothers me a bit, and just seems really forced or something.

>>6770057
that is pretty good, a little less than 10 pounds a month. just don't put yourself into a position of gaining it back. i mean, treat yourself now and again, but put it in your calorie count for the day. if you know you eat while bored, do something else instead- paint your nails, watch documentaries, pick up a book, play a video game you haven't touched in a while, go outside and take a walk, anything.

>>6768686
>Every single person in the world has to do things like that
No they don't?
What alien planet do you live on?

I'm sick of YOUR attitude
>SHUT UP YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO FEEL BAD ABOUT THINGS IN YOUR LIFE BECAUSE SOMEONE HAS IT THE SAME OR WORSE OUT THERE
Oh god, you are sooooooo annoying and grating.

>>6770087
>huuurduuur you're wrong because i said so! >people never eeever have to do things they don't want to ever!

>>6770096
>people never ever have to do things they don't want to ever!
So you seriously believe -every single person- in the world goes on for months, even years, suffering and doing shit they actually don't want to be doing on a consistent basis?
Hah. Bullshit. A pure crock of shit. And even at that it doesn't give you a right to put a person down for a legitimate complaint about said situation.

>>6770108
I'm sure that all those people working in sweatshops or mcdonalds love it and don't suffer at all.

>>6770110
>because everyone works at McDonalds
Oh forgive me, you must be high or on drugs.

>>6770087
>I'm sick of YOUR attitude
>>SHUT UP YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO FEEL BAD ABOUT THINGS IN YOUR LIFE BECAUSE SOMEONE HAS IT THE SAME OR WORSE OUT THERE

Agreed. This shit is annoying and people who think like this need to fuck off.

>>6770110
Lolwat. I think this is the same autist from earlier who was claiming no medications can cause weight gain.

>>6770125
To be fair the other idiot anon was implying that it's not usual that people go through some kind of suffering/shitty situation/hardship. I mean both of them are fucking retarded and derailing the thread again hours later.

>>6770131
>and derailing the thread again hours later.
This, really, can we not for once...? Can a single thread on cgl just be on topic?

>>6770131
No, you're a samefag and you're the only one retarded here.
>implying that it's not usual that people go through some kind of suffering/shitty situation/hardship
Haha they definitely didn't. And please quote where they did.
Protip: You can't.

>>6770136
>>6770131
>>herpderp I goofed so I better pretend I'm not the same anon anymore and try to stray away from an argument I started and can't win

>>6770141
You literally couldn't be retarded. At least sage your shitposting.

>>6770145
>implying I'm shitposting
Nope. And if you don't like where this thread is going then you can hide it if you're so "above derailing." All saging does is not bump the thread.

>>6766449
fat bitch detected

also if you're going to tell others they have a superiority complex, you probably should avoid condescending terms like sweetiekins in your shitty rants

>>6770145
>more
you're not worth the correction but I know you'll nitpick it, so

>>6770149
>butthurt tard from earlier detected
Confirmed. Same autistic bitch that seriously believes anti-psychotics and other medications can't cause weight gain. Everyone point and laugh.

>>6770145
I'm still waiting for that implication quote anon. Tick tock.

>>6770110
says the fat entitled western woman who has never worked an hour in her life

>>6770153
Yes but its courtesy to not bump with bullshit. So saging is usually encouraged with derail off topic comments.
Usually it ends up with the thread getting auto saged to hell, deleted, or reported (which then gets deleted)

There is a girl at my Uni that walks around in brand with jeans underneath.

I'm not even a Lolita and that bugs me.

>>6766721
>>6766957
I'm fat, and I've been fat a loooong time. I've yoyoed 80lbs up and down, and my body is probably wrecked from dieting. The closest I have ever been, in my adult life, to a healthy weight, I had been eating 500 calories a day for months, and I was essentially malnourished. I was losing hair, thinking about food 110% of the time (as in dreaming about breaking my diet every night), and sleeping 18 hours a day.

Basically what I am saying, is holy shit does it suck to have people act like this when they have no idea what it's like to be disgustingly fat and be completely unable to get it off.

No, you shouldn't be treating fat people with baby gloves, or glorifying obesity because of people's precious feelings. But keep in mind that your science might not be as clean cut as you think it is.
youtube.com/watch?v=VgnbRK8pij8

>>6770168
>Usually it ends up with the thread getting auto saged to hell, deleted, or reported (which then gets deleted)
Which, if there is a merciful higher being, this one will be at this point...

>>6770163
What are you even fucking talking about you asspained retard.

>>6770168
>Usually it ends up with the thread getting auto saged to hell, deleted, or reported (which then gets deleted)
So what? It's just a thread. You can make more, alright? No need to be frightened.

>>6770165
Totes not shitpostan gies. Srsly.

>>6770173
>complains about shitposting
>still replies
Genius, I can see why you have the authority to call other people tards you tardlette.

>>6770176
Did I hurt your feelings, fatty? :3

>>6770181
Not at all booboo<3

>>6770171
Sure but what's the use if it'll most likely just get continued because two anons can't just walk away from each other ? No need to waste a good thread either...but it seems too late

>>6770184
That's great, now return to being entitled like a good goy.

>>6770185
>Sure but what's the use if it'll most likely just get continued because two anons can't just walk away from each other ?

...she said as she can't walk away from this thread either. Practice what you preach.

>>6770189
Please don't tell me you're calling samefag. just a cosplayer wandering through so calm your paranoia. Same thing happened in the cosplay vent thread though..got derailed to hell and back. Shame its happening here.

ANY ON TOPIC ANNOYANCES?

>>6770157
>mfw that was my first post on /cgl/ and you're still trying to justify being fat

>>6768917

Reminds me a little bit of when my boyfriend's dorm mate wanted to come with me to a meet up (my boyfriend was just stopping by, it was literally a few blocks away from the college and he was going past to pick up some things from his ex-room mates). Anyways, we were able to avoid that...

My boyfriend is not a lolita, or a dandy. He is a gamer and a little fluffy, but he dresses nicely, holds himself well and, I can comfortably say after 5 years, has a genuine interest in lolita fashion and a really good eye for quality, brands, prints, ext.
Anyways, his room mate is a nice guy... but no job, no car, freshman in college, wears band t-shirts and ripped jeans with a fedora, you get the drift. He's a kid in college.
Most all of the active girls in our comm are either married and or young professionals, working jobs in offices or in the medical field.

So yeah. I have no trouble with non-lolita boys at meets, as long as they are seriously just nice and interested and not looking for a hook up (no single boy ever).

>>6768957
Sadly the band isn't a cure all. Be careful anon! If you eat too much while you have the band the smaller section will just re expand. My aunt had the band and it worked great for her though. Good luck! I'm not quite so big but I have binging problems myself. I had this revelation that I eat (and shop) because I am miserable all the time. I've lost weight before and I'm sure I could do it again but something in my head has to be fixed first...

>>6770195
Uh no?
It's just pointless to further derail the thread by making posts dedicated to complaining about derailing.

God, what twits tonight.

>>6770198
>mfw this was my first post on the internet ever and you're this mad

>>6770200
Not complaining just stating. God what idgits tonight. Come on , sis. Don't get all bitchy for nothing.

>>6770209
>stating
>seriously believes this isn't derailing
And I'm "stating" you're being a twit.
You've been bitchy this entire time rufflebutt, take some of your own heat back.

>>6770205
how could I be mad? Being skinny is great.
Also
>that was my first post on /cgl/
referenced the fact that I couldn't have been the mentioned

It's sad, but I guess I have to spell it out for some people...

>>6770209
>BAWWWW DERAILING MUH THREADS
Nah you're complaining pretty loudly and you're just as annoying tbqh. Pls go, or actually state something topic related.

>>6770215
>referenced the fact that I couldn't have been the mentioned
But you are, and that's what makes your angry tears so much more delicious anonkun.

>>6770214
>derailing
Threads already derailed?
>this entire time
I've been here for maybe 5 minutes. Whyre you so dramatic?
>twit
There's gravel in your clit tonight. Stop acting so hostile.

>>6770087
It is one thing to say it in a positive light. For example, "Well, you have a lot of beautiful clothes! You are thinner than most the girls in the comm! You just got that new job with good pay!"
But lifting someone up is very different than putting someone down.
"Oh, so your dress got a stain? Well there are starving children in Africa!" .........

"Check your privilege" my bloomers.

>>6770221
oh shit. the jig is up it seems.

you're right I was the one who made that statement.

drink my tears pls

>>6770225
>Threads already derailed?
So this justifies your derailing it even further after you've been complaining this entire time about derailing?
Fuck you are dense.
>gravel in your clit
And I suppose you would know all about having the sweet Sahara brew in yours, glad to see I'm dealing with an expert.

>>6770221
"ahhh! anon-kun! too close to my eye! kyaaaaaaa! im cryyyyyyyyyyyiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnggggggggg

>>6770217
Okay. I don't own frills so I guess I could state something.
I hate it when obvious underaged lolitas post on 4chins.

>>6770235
>I don't own frills so I guess I could state something
What are you even doing here? Lol. Were you seriously this bored.

>>6770230
>derailing further.
It takes two anon. I'm not justifying anything, just responding to you. You're still being very dramatic about nothing.
>entire time
Going on 10 minutes or so..
>dense
No, just calmly responding to you. Nothing I've said was dense. Really though, go look at pretty dresses and cheer up sis. I think this threads ruined your night.

>>6770229
I said why I was here. Just passing through. Is this a secret club? Admittance is one petticoat?

>>6770251
i think you responded to the wrong post

>>6770245
>You're still being very dramatic about nothing.

>I'm not being dramatic, I mean gosh!11!!
>still. fucking. responds.
>to what is supposedly nothing
Lol, you sure showed them.

>>6770257
I can show them the world. Didn't realise that stating the thread may get deleted due to arguments (its happened) would spark a rage boner.

Jesus actual Christ, sure is sandy vag in here. Let's get this shit back on track, shall we?

> "I don't see why headbands are considered ita?"
> "If I want to wear a MLP shirt under my JSK, I could start a new kind of lolita~!"
> "You have to wear pigtails with lolita."
> "Can I bring my parent/non loli friend to your meet?"
> "Since we're going to a restaurant, will you pay for my food?"

I just saw this on AP USA's facebook page. It bothers me when ladies like this complain about brand being impossibly small and made for tiny size 00 Japanese children and not for "real women". Most of the major brands, especially AP, are pretty accommodating with their sizing. Half-shirred items fit around 100-110 cm in the bust, which is like a US size 12 or 14. That size is far from unreasonable imo.

Terms like "curvy" and "real women" grind my gears too, but that's not lolita-specific.

>>6770333
I'm fat and even these posts bug me. The clothes aren't for everyone, and is something everyone should know. They're marketed for Japanese girls who are chubby. If you can't fit the thing get it tailored or buy accessories if you really want to support the brand.

Just because you can directly talk to a brand doesn't mean you have to spaghetti your weight problems to them and bring out insecurities. There's a huge difference between asking what dresses fit bigger people and making comments about "curves".

>Terms like "curvy" and "real women" grind my gears too, but that's not lolita-specific.
You're not the only one.