/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Otome rules:

The point of the fashion is to look cute and feminine. Often the prints have a "European" feel, specifically French or British. If the idea of Mori is to look like a girl from the Scandinavian woods, the point of Otome is to look like an jaunty/eccentric European young maiden. It doesn't have a strict silhouette like Lolita, so you can get full skirts, minis, salopettes, even shorts/pants sometimes. It's common for legs to be covered (socks, tights, etc. - maybe more out of "another place to put color/pattern" more than for modesty issues) and shoes are usually flats or low heels. There's usually prints inspired by vintage textiles, lots of colors (otome coordinates in Japan usually have a mixture of colors and patterns, though western otome coords are often made by Lolitas so they go for more matchiness). Japanese otome brands include Emily Temple Cute, Jane Marple, and Milk. ETC and Milk tend towards happy cuteness; Jane Marple is a little darker in color and theme and is mostly based on vintage British aesthetic. It is possible to do offbrand in coords and vintage stuff works well. Otome is generally more "showy" than western cute/twee fashion.

I don't know if this count as otome, but it's very pretty though

>>6741583
Man, can I say "usually" any more times?

Another thing - otome is often confused with "casual Lolita" but that's not all it is. Some otome brand skirts and dresses have a silhouette (and colors/prints) that work with Lolita, but otome fashion doesn't use super poofy petticoats.

>>6741593
I just saw this dress on auction but in purple, but it just a few hours left so I wouldn't be able to place an order. And I just ordered a new lolita dress so I couldn't really afford it. MFW when it was only 10 000 yen

>>6741583
I like the way you describe it, though we could generalize it a little more.
I guess we could say patterns and colors variety is welcome, but not a rule.
Prints can vary a lot too. From cute themes like rabbits,candies and bows to more serious stuff like, idk, coats of arms. Also, a coord lacking patterns and prints can look nice as well (pic related).

I have another question: we all know lolita pieces can look great in otome coords, but is it possible to wear otome clothing in lolita? Like, for example, this dress: >>6741583 How loliable is it?

Does anybody know the name of this dress? I know it's Emily Temple Cute/Shirley Temple, but not the name

Sage because outfit is more lolita than otome

>>6741617
well some of the pictures in this thread cross over to casual lolita like >>6741610

As long as the dress can fit a petticoat and keep the Lolita silhouette it can be used in lolita. Though the dress you refered to would fit a petticoat, it doesn't have the right shape.

>pitcure related, ETC dress used as Lolita but can be used as otome as well

God, I love otome some. It's really difficult for me to go out dressed in lolita, I'm really shy and dislike drawing so much attention so I only wear it at tea parties or when I won't be anywhere near strangers. Otome, in another hand, I wear happily anywhere since the looks I get are more like "oh, what a cute, eccentric kid" instead of "what a freak".

Curious and new to Otome...
What are some websites to buy Otome-kei clothing? What brands are there?

Can I wear that style with big breasts?

>>6741638
It's relatively easy to wear offbrand in otome, but brands are so goddamn kawaii you'll probably want to buy it soon or later. I guess Emily Temple Cute, Jane Marple and MILK are the most famous ones. I used to love Syrup's stuff, but I guess they're doing cult party now...
Taobao has a lot of cool stores too! I can list some at another time, I'm a little busy right now.

>>6741642
Yeah. It'll be as difficult as lolita though, so be careful.

>>6741642
You can wear it but brands like ETC doesn't usually out shirring on their clothes, so they won't fit a larger bust (I'm B cup and they fit me like a glove, if I were any larger they would be too small)

Is this otome?

>>6741676
Not really

Does anyone know of any Taobao stores that sell otome kei clothing?

On a side note, I just discovered the Jane Marple British Library dress (about a year too late) and fell in love. I would probably sell my soul for this dress, so if anyone knows where I can find it for sale, I'd be eternally grateful.

>>6741696
It rarely shows up on auction but if it does expect to pay $500+. It's beautiful and in high demand.

>>6741617
...jarring to see myself posted on /cgl/ when I'm half asleep.

OP, otome is more about the "feel" of the clothing, rather than set rules. Think whimsical, fairy tale, doll-like. The word "otome" literally means "young maiden", and that really is what you're going for. It's less matchy than lolita - prints and colors sometimes don't go perfectly and might even clash a bit - you keep things looking nice by paying attention to proportion and how textures look with each other, rather than simply just color. It's something you gradually learn to recognize and will come second-nature eventually.
Otome and lolita CAN cross over, they are not mutually exclusive. I would classify >>6741610 as both.

>>6741804
Anyway, I gotta go get ready for class, but I'll post some pictures really quick right now, and some more after I get out of the shower, etc.

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Can a guy wear anything in this style? I don't mean like a trap I mean something to match the girl; I want a qt otome girlfriend!

>>6741847
Hm..I would say the best complement to otome would be what might be considered indies or hipster fashion - button-up, v-neck sweater, nice slacks or jeans.
Or if you're pretty small and androgynous, kodona would like nice too.
But idk, like I said earlier, "otome" literally means young maiden, so it's hard to conjure up what a related male style would be...

>>6741849
continuing my dump

>>6741847
I would say that anything that look a little bit like old english style would fit together with otome

>>6741856
last one before I go shower - be back in like 20 minutes.

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>>6741847
Heritage brands! Jane Marple patterns itself after heritage clothing, so for a guy it'd be similar (maybe wear Barbour for a gentlemanly look, Fred Perry for more of a 60s vibe, etc). From there, just get a killer retro haircut and you're gold.

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>>6741847
I NEED TO SEE THIS BECAUSE REASONS

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>>6741964
self post, sorry.

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>>6741967
just too much going on in this one sorry, busy print on dress, stripes on arm, lace up on socks and that fur collar. it's just too much.

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>>6741973
Clashing prints are popular in otome

>>6741973
I kindly disagree, because otome often has that sort thing going on - I think it gives it that whimsical, slightly magical feeling to it.

Pic related shows how ETC utilizes different patterns and prints in single coordinates.
It's about how you manage the proportions and balance of the different pieces.
However, it may not be your cup of tea, and that's ok!

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>>6741980
The black to bright color ratio is off. It'd be better with the stripes being lower contrast, like black and charcoal grey, and also with the colors swapped on the socks. The fur would be more balanced against a heavier textured fabric like a tweed or a knit.

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>>6741991
While I appreciate the concrit, but I must admit I strongly disagree, particularly since the colors of the OP were washed out/muddled by the window light (and fwiw, the OP is a very heavy winter fabric, not at all a summer dress).

>>6741997
...take out that first "but". I added words and forgot to subtract others later.

Anyway, I don't want to make it seem like I'm not open to concrit at all, I just do feel like that particular coordinate is complete to my liking.

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>>6741986
No, I actually like clashing prints, but only if it's done well.
You have socks in one pink color, then fur collar in another pink. Then you have a dress with a heavy print, next to a shirt with heavy stripes over socks with a heavy lace up pattern. It's just contrast on contrast.

Look at the first coord in your picture. You have a shirt with a strong stripe print, then a more muted print on the skirt. The further down on the body (not next to the other patterns) you have strong stripes on the ankle socks. See the difference?

>>6741951
Easier to do on the Jane Marple/anglophile side of otome.

>>6742003
I do certainly see what you're trying to say.
But do remember that photos don't always capture different fabrics correctly, so colors may not always be accurate - the tippet and the socks are the same color in real life.
I disagree that the socks have a heavy pattern (and I'd find the shirt debatable - stripes are a very simple pattern imo), but what would you suggest instead?
I think it would be easier for me to see where you think it could be improved if you provided concrete examples of what would work better.

I hope I'm not coming across as obstinate, but I do think more concrete ideas for improvement work better!

>>6742005
Some of Takuma's outfits would work as well.

To be clear, I'm not saying this is 'boy otome' or that Sae is wearing otome here, but that his personal style sometimes overlaps with the otome aesthetic.

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>>6742007
Outfit to the left is everything I have ever dreamed of

>>6742007
Removing the fur collar and switching to solid color tights would make the outfit more cohesive and less busy.

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>>6742015
Last photo and then I'm off for class - I hope someone enjoyed what I've posted, and thank you for the concrit on my own coordinate, even if I don't necessarily agree with all of it! It's always important to take other opinions into consideration for the next time, I think.

>>6742011
Oh, that is me! I'm happy you like my outfit anon.

>>6741967
You are really pretty, but I have to agree with >>6742014, I think it would look better with either solid colored socks or top. I really like how the top and dress look together, and the look of the socks and dress, but it's a little much with both. It's nice that you're trying to do something different though.

>>6741617
Eri?

>>6742029
is otome your favourite style?

this is the best thread ever

>>6742045
Yep, and >>6741967 is me too.

...I lied about going to class, I missed the bus.
Will peruse my folders for more otome to dump until the next bus.

>>6742045
>is otome your favourite style?
Hmm, I'm not really sure since I like so many styles. But out of all j-fashion styles I wear otome the most.

>>6742066
We'll see how far I can get before having to leave (for real).

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>>6742090
including babby otome kei

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>>6742132
alrighty, I'm outta here for now.

>>6742076
Has JM ever released anything ugly? Anything at all? Everything seems either beautiful or perfect.
Also: where's the best place to buy second hand JM and ETC? It's so difficult to find nice things from them...

I love this fashion. What sort of guys are these girls into? Seems like they only like other /fa/ twee dudes.

>>6742343
You know, guys.

Or girls. There's really no "type" for anybody at all. The person you love will end up being someone you won't expect.

>>6742358

these girls dont look like the fuck around with commoner trash

>>6742358
This. I have a friend who is the cutest sweet lolita in the world and her boyfriend is a total metalhead. They really look so opposite, but they obviously like each other enough to be dating.

>>6742365
Then don't be commoner trash. How is this hard?

>>6742365
You can always tell when a guy is dressing to get chicks, and not dressing because he likes it. Just be yourself.

dream dress to the right...

>>6742358
There you go, making assumptions about people you don't even know.

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>>6742375
Adding on

Not saying these girls fuck with trash. I'm just saying that if you're really willing to go ahead putting people into "trash" and "special" categories, then YOU'RE the one acting like trash. If you want to experience love that badly, I suggest you stop categorizing people. That kind of attitude will only ensure that your other half will pass right by without you even noticing.

Hot damn imma nab me a lolita babe!

>>6741847
I wear otome on a daily basis and you know what? I want a guy who dresses normal. It looks ridiculous in 99 % of all cases when the guy tries to match the girl. There are a few exceptions.. but imo there goes nothing above a well fitted shirt + pants. If you got taste on your own you won't look out of place with your normal clothes.

>>6742343, I agree with what was said above, but I see no harm to try and dress up if you actually dig the style - even if the initial purpose was to impress girls. Just make sure you enjoy what you're wearing and have fun!
So my suggestion would be: bow ties. Vests and blazers and expensive shoes, also (I'd say the goal is to look like a well dressed british school boy?). Well, it's just a suggestion, of course. Pic related.

>>6742271
JM's Nursery Land prints are kinda gross, the yellow color is pretty bad. But it all is in the eye of the beholder.

Speaking about boy in otome, would you call this otome?

>>6742513
You mean the girl, right? Well, no, I wouldn't. It's too punkish.

What the hell is going on in here?

Are we being invaded by /fit/ / /r9k/?

>>6742513
Is there a word that's like "otome" but for males? It's a bit odd seeing "boy in otome" all over this thread without there being girly clothes involved. Maybe something that translates to "young master"? Or maybe it's just hipster wear.

Aw, I leave for work and this ends up on page 3.
I'll continue dumping where I left off, then.

>>6742622
You know, I'm not sure...
but "otome" can be written two ways: 乙女 or 少女, both of which can also be pronounced shoujo (a word you may have heard before, e.g. shoujo manga), which means the same thing overall, but "otome" has a connotation of purity or naivity (particularly when written the first way), whereas shoujo is more of a neutral word.
That being said, the opposite of shoujo is shounen 少年, but it doesn't particularly have any of the that connotation so...

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This thread has given me an Emily Temple Cute boner.

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>>6743106
Last post for now, I've got some stuff I need to do.

I'll leave you with some links:

>tumblrs
http://otomemaiden.tumblr.com/
http://fuckyeahotomekei.tumblr.com/
http://axesfemme.tumblr.com/
http://emilytemplecute.tumblr.com/
http://lecafeshop.tumblr.com/ (not exclusively otome kei, but a lot)

>brand webpages
Emily Temple Cute: http://www.emilytemple-cute.com/
Milk: http://www.milk-web.net/
Jane Marple: http://www.janemarple-stmm.co.jp/
axes femme: http://www.axesfemme.com/
F.i.n.t: http://www.fint-shop.com/
Amavel: http://www.amavel.jp/

>>6742343

My wardrobe is mainly otome. My boyfriend loves the way I dress, he knows I love Emily and would spoil me sometimes. He's a programmer, wears shirts and pants like everyone else. He says he likes seeing how elegant I look, and feels proud whenever people compliment me.

Otome is just a fashion at the end of the day. There's nothing more charming than a smart man who can teach me things, and love me for something else other than the way I dress.

>>6741676
now it is

>>6742271
There's so much JM and ETC on auction and consignment shops, so unless you're looking for something specific, it shouldn't be difficult at all. Tokyo Alice, Usagiyouhinten, Violet Blue, Closet Child, Maidenclothing, and Fururun all stock JM and ETC. The plain items can go for dirt cheap but the printed items are significantly more. Plus, otome brands sell for cheaper on sales comm, generally.

>>6742377
Not the anon you were talking to, but my other half is just as judgey as me.

>>6742513
That's an old snap, and she's wearing mostly VW and some JM. It's sort of otome.

There's no such thing as "boy in otome" unless crossdressing - otome means young maiden and is a female style. We are showing examples of guys in outfits that would complement a girl in otome.

>>6741591
skirt is ETC (have the same one)

>>6741847
I wear otome and my boyfriend wears fred perry, ben sherman stuff. works well I think

>>6741927
I love this dress, but I would like to adapt the bust. Shirley Temple is not meant to be worn by girls with breasts.

>>6741562
I love this ETC dress! it was one of my favourites.

Anyway else agrees that ETC isn't what it used to be? I don't like most of their new stuff.
On the other hand, JM has been releasing very nice things.

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>>6744648
that's the dress:)

>>6744649
some new ETC I would like if it wouldn't have that stupid text all over...

>>6744651
I have this the original version of this bag in black and red.
I don't like the fact that ETC rereleases so many things.

>>6744654
some nice new stuff

>>6743114
I fucking love Amavel. They have the prettiest stuff! But Axes Femme is the best for reasonably priced bags, shoes and accessories.
I would be perennially broke if I lived in Japan.

>>6744656
I can handle simple coordinates like this, but when it comes to clashing textures and prints like
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>>6741837

I get so confused. Does anyone have any tips to make it work? How do you figure out if the outfit is balanced/ if the textures match? I'm so used to lolita it's a little hard to grasp the clashiness of otome. Help will be very much appreciated!

>>6744715
One tip is to work with colors that are in the dress already, like you do in lolita, but try out different patterns on the tights/top. As long as you think it looks good. You don't need to do the clashing prints either, it's just a matter of taste if you like it or not.

>>6744730
I've always hated ETCs poodle stuff, but this girl makes we want it.

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>>6742513
I would say it's otome, it's got the right feel, look and brands. There's more to otome than emily temple cute's sweet print and colours, and girls who wear Jane Marple styles wear outfits like this a lot (monochrome blouse+skirt+cardigan combos). I don't really see how it's punk, at all.

>>6744766
It's just my opinion but I don't get the "modest young lady" feeling from her outfit. At all.
In fact, I believe that's exactly what she was aiming for when she added a tartan topper: to break this elegant feel the rest of outfit has, to make it look more like VW rather than JM. You know what I mean?

Also, this thread was lacking cling123.

Would love to see more otome outfits with trousers and shorts, unfortunately I don't have any to contribute.

As for boytome, the first thing I thought of was Chris Colfer's outfits from Glee.

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>>6744861

I love the individual pieces and the shapes of otome but I just can't bring myself to like the clashy bright colors. I would wear stuff like >>6741990 >>6741955 though.

>>6744811
She dresses so well but good god her eyes are terrifying.

>>6744852
Omg, that's VERY boyotome!

>>6744811
I don't get what so special with this outfit. It looks like some random peter pan collar dress with black tights and black shoes, no accessories.

>>6744941
Moar!

>>6744979

The Doctors sometimes have a kind of boytome look too. These are just t-shirts with the outfits printed on which is lame, but good inspiration nonetheless.

>>6744941
And a new bastard term is born. Boytome? Seriously?

>>6745021
Agreed. If you want a term for it so bad, at least come up with something dignified.

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>>6745006
Could you guys stop spamming the thread with your irrelevant bullshit? Thanks. 'Boytome' doesn't exist.

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>>6744981
Fuck off with your Glee/Dr. Who bullshit. This isn't Tumblr and "boytome" isn't a thing. That's how a good percentage of Japanese men dress at any given point in time.

>>6745034
This

I came here for cute dresses and shit

>>6745034
This. It's not a thing, don't make it a thing, and really don't make it a Glee/Dr.Who thing. Go back to tumblr.

>>6744644
Shirley Temple is actually a kids' brand, so that's why your breasts don't fit.

>>6744811
That particular outfit is otome more because of the brands she's wearing... I wouldn't call it the best example of the style but she wears the style pretty much daily and her tumblr has a lot of good inspiration.

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>>6745058
hivemind! (before someone calls samefag because I only wrote the second post.)

>>6745061
Anyway, back on topic.

>>6741593
HNGG! Dat sweater collar!
I keep seeing things on taobao but none of them are that nice. And they tend to be in colors I don't wear.

>>6745034
No one said it does. We were just trying to have an idea of what it would look like if it did.
You guys are overreacting. We won't even dress like that. It's just for fun, c'mon.

>>6745286
It's stupid, this is an otome thread, keep your fantasies out of it

>>6745388
How's it stupid? It's the same thing as regular otome, the difference is nothing but the sex of the person wearing it.
It also doesn't disrail the thread, so what's it you're so angry about? Because, really, all I see is a little spoiled brat saying "I don't like you're doing, so gtfo".

>>6745423
Except that you are derailing the thread. With that shit, and right now.

Gtfo, no one wants to see your dumb gleek shit.

>>6745423
You're trolling or blind. Some dude in weird cardigans or tuxedo print shirts is not "the same thing" as pic related. Please just stop.

>>6745423
Otome is a girl's fashion. If you want to make a thread for boy styles, go ahead, but this is a thread about a female fashion.

>>6745559
But don't you see, that's exactly the same thing as a guy wearing layered cardigans and pants!

what the actual fuck

>>6745423

Dude.
Just stop.

Going back on topic, how much does this dress in this pic usually go for? I think I accidentally fell in love with it.

>>6745584
Oh gosh, axes femme can take all my money. I adore their clothes!

>>6745595
What brand is it?

Otome brand prices vary a lot secondhand because there isn't the built in market for it like with Lolita.

>>6745599

Hnnnghhh I know right?

If I had a closet consisting of just them and Jane Marple, I would die a very happy person.

>>6744654
How awkward is it to carry? I have one of the round ones and it's so cute but kind of a pain to get it open without having to take it off my arm and put it down.

>>6744654
>I don't like the fact that ETC rereleases so many things.

Why, how could this possibly be a problem?

>>6745609
A girl can dream! I don't even want to think about how much that wardrobe would cost.

>>6745608

OP said Jane Marple, and as I understand, the secondhand prices can run very high. I guess you can't get a good estimate for otome stuff as with loli stuff?

>>6745614
Probably the lolita mentality of 'omg it'll drive the price of my stuff down!!'
Not everything works like the lolita market..

>>6745617
Jane Marple does tend to skew higher than ETC. I am not sure, but suspect, that JM is priced higher than ETC to begin with, and maybe ETC is slightly more lolita friendly so it bleeds more into the lolita market when it comes to secondhand. But yeah, the demand and the source is not as much a constant as with lolita. You will just have to scour auctions & Closet Child etc. and maybe try to make a WTB on egl_comm_sales just in case?

I'm really surprised nobody has posted anything with this print, it's my favorite ETC print everrr

also sorry for self-postan

>>6746577
Aaand one more coord with it~

>>6746541
Oddly enough ETC sells more in Closet Child than JM. CC mostly only stocks fugly JM though.

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>>6746581
That is flipping adorable!!

>>6746850
Go to Japan and maybe find it on sale at a fabric store. I know one seamstress managed to find extra ETC fabric, but it's difficult. Maybe you can find something similar?

>>6746850
By slaughtering a thousand lambs to the great hime -sama in the sky.

>>6746864
This is more likely to work.

>>6746850
visit gensokyo

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>>6746581

Ooo! Very cute! I have seen that print on auction sometimes, but never bothered with it. I'm tempted to get it now.

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>>6746862
Two girls in my community bought some ETC fabrics from a girl in Singapore who was selling on the egl_comm_sales. Not that print though.

>>6746850
You could get some similar donuts fabric, like this
http://www.equilter.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html?p_prodid=164173&sid=31U9Hz3BmCGZ3ct-21113117887.33
but the exact fabric you would probably have to travel to Japan to get.

Why are you wondering btw?

>>6742004
ugh I want this JSK and all donut-related items so badly

>>6746541
Jane Marple costs up to 40,000 yen new so yes, it's more expensive than ETC which runs more along the price of lolita brands.

>>6741988
cot dam i need that blouse.

This thread has super inspired me so here is my first attempt at otome. How did it go, /cgl/? I wish I had more cute bags.

>>6746922
Yeah, seeing it worn gives it justice!

>>6747362
I may not know what I'm talking about...but maybe a little less black and red?

>>6747362
Very cute, needs more patterns though. Maybe try incorporating some white?

>>6747362

Do you have any printed socks? They will really help jazz up your outfit. I think it's classy but a little plain, so maybe you can add a few quirky accessories to spice it up a little.

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>>6747398
How about this?

>>6747456
otome as fuck, gj

>>6747456
Slap on some accessories and you are fresh to death, girl.

>>6747456
I would drop either the black cardigan or turtleneck. Or you could use a white turtleneck instead, it's a bit too much black on top.

>>6747619
I agree With this- I would use a white turtleneck and keep the black cardi.

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>>6747619
I'd try out a white turtleneck if I had one but this was all just with things I had in my closet today. Thanks for the ideas for the future though!

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>>6747480
Thank you! Maybe I will look into getting a cute brooch for the cardigan.

>>6746850
Hey Moot, what's up?

Wish I could help, but I think the fabric may be out of print now. Best bet is to track down someone in Japan and have them ask one of the wholesale fabric places directly.

>>6747633
+1

>>6746850
Now I'm starting to wonder what Moot does in his spare time.

>>6746850
What would you use it for? Dress making?? Quilting???

I was never previously a fan of hats, but this thread makes me realize that my previous hat-less life has been a complete waste of time

>>6748354
Welcome to the light, friend.

>>6746850
Depending on what you want done with it, I would suggest finding a digital artist who can duplicate the print for you and then have it printed with an on-demand fabric printing service. The biscuits have the brand's name printed on them but you could easily change that if you had someone reproducing the print for you. (Emily Temple Moot has a nice ring to it, by the way.)
Now if only you knew an artist who had the print on-hand who could do this for you~

Does anyone have any pictures of bigger girls in Otome? I have a few pictures of Yuko Yamaguchi wearing ETC, but I wanna see some other girls, for inspiration.

>>6748370
I feel as though I've been reborn

Now it's just a matter of gettin me some hats. All of the hats, right now. Where do you seagulls buy your hats? I want things that'll work with otome/mori-style stuff. Do you just go to your local hat store, or are there any good online shops where you can buy hats that don't cost a fortune?

>>6748400
Interested in this too, but I buy mostly from typical mall stores- forever 21, urban outfitters, h&m has some decent full hats usually. Then I just decorate them myself with brooches and pins.

If you prefer softer stuff like berets and knit hats, ebay and taobao has a lot of great options. I'm personally more into structured hats, though.

>>6748405
Thanks for the tips, anon! Looking in regular mall stores didn't even occur to me. Definitely looking for structured hats. Berets and knit hats are cute, but I feel like they don't really suit me. I could totally go for a nice cloche hat like pic related though.

>>6742580
We always are. That shit is permanent now.

>>6748325
He looks at the pretty ladies on cgl, cries that he's not that beautiful, then endlessly spends his nights sewing, bleeding, and masturbating to become the perfect seamstress.

>>6748400
I recommend goorin. If you have a local store all the better, but they are online at goorin.com I used to work for them (still do some contract work for them), and can vouch for excellent customer service and pleasant shopping experience. Their lower end hats a pretty good, I really love their heritage collection the best though it isn't cheap, but good hats are usually worth the extra cash. I get reblogged onto the lolis with hats tumblr alot wearing my goorins.

>>6748627
Oh wow, I'd never even heard of them but they have some lovely pieces. Thanks for the tip!

>>6748627
Thanks for the tip anon, they have some absolutely lovely hats! Unfortunately doesn't look like they ship internationally, though. I also didn't even know there was a lolitas with hats tumblr, but I love you for mentioning it. All them hats <3

Maybe thrifting might be a good option? I'm gonna check my local thrift shops tomorrow, but I'm afraid it'll be mostly ratty hats that are too old/ugly to be delightfully vintage.

>>6748681
If you thrift from a shop that brands itself as a "vintage shop" rather than somewhere like Goodwill or Value Village, you might have better luck.

Still, it's worth trying, you might just get lucky sometimes.

>>6748627
>Look at store list
>Seattle, WA
I'm gonna go buy me a hat and some shoes from Fluevogs!!

>>6748724
Had the same thought, shops are in the same place where I am.. not surprised by that, haha.

Speaking of hats...has anyone tried Victorian trading co. for their hats? They have really gorgeous ones! They have some cloche hats suitable for otome too, but I only have the picture of the hat I'm considering.

>>6748737
It's a bit far away for me, but I was going to buy some new shoes so I'll just save a bit more and get a hat as well. I take the ferry over as I don't drive in downtown unless I'm at a con or an event where I need to drive.

I'm a bit excited as I have a hard time buying hats online. So it will be great to get a full sized hat in person.

Still so very excited, I have the hardest time with finishing my coordinations for otome as I feel there's always something "missing" at the top. And I only have one vintage hat. So being able to have a hat shop nearby is a dream come true.

>>6748750
>I have a hard time buying hats online.
Same, I always have to try them on first- small head, and very picky about how they look on me.

>>6748652
>>6748681
No probs anons! If you go to the stores tell them Halley from the North Beach store sent you ;) we have a very small company environment and always love hearing that someone from the flagship store sent them a customer... we're a quirky bunch us haberdashers and milliners.

>>6748382
>Emily Temple Moot
I lol'd.

>>6748400
I buy second hand hats from etsy and eBay. Have found some really lovely hats that way.

>>6746577
this my favorite ETC print too! does anyone for how much this usually sells for? I'm saving up some monies in case it shows up second hand.

>>6749186
I bought mine secondhand for 15,500¥, but I've seen it go at auction for closer to 20,000¥. I think the cheapest I've seen it go recently was around 13,000¥. There's also a skirt in the blue colorway on Y!Japan sitting at 15,000¥ and it's got less than 10 minutes left on it:
http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m111917991

looking at this thread makes me want to cry

>>6749194
Yeah I got mine for about 210$, I baught the other version of the jsk though

bump for pretty dresses!

>>6756461
Please and thank you! I don't want this thread to die yet!

>>6756461
Where is this dress from?!?!

>>6756686
i thiiiink it is ETC. It's been a long time since I've seen that one though

>>6756686
It's ETC

>>6745064
This outfit... so damn cute, and so simple.

Can I get photos of girls wearing lolita brands in an otome-kei way? I'm slowly moving away from lolita but I don't have the heart to sell my whole wardrobe :(