/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Another category, creepy.

It must be difficult to create a good-looking fursuit.

However, it's totally fucking creepy, especially when you actually add in the level of dedication it must take to create one.

>or perhaps admire the craftsmanship but can't get past the fanbase

Pretty much this. But I'm going to be honest, I've met a few nice furries, too. I just try to stay a little open minded about it. But it's just something about them that creep me out.

A handful of furries at a con I feel is fine. Younger children like to see the suits, and I can appreciate the craftsmanship os a well-put together suit.

But it does get creepy when they run up to people wanting hugs or wagging their asses or squeaking.

I think the more realistic bipedal fursuits are awesome. Quadsuits freak me out sometimes.

Fursuiters get a bad reputation because of some idiots just like cosplayers do. I used to think fursuits were a little creepy mostly because of the cartoon faces and how a lot of them don't talk.

Still, I have to give it up to them because that is a lot of work to make one of those and I love the realistic ones. I still don't like the cartoon ones because they just look so silly and stupid.

Mad respect for people who make the (good) suits. Theyre difficult to make and i've seen some amazing faces on them.

I have absolutely no problem with fursuits at cons as long as it remains fetish-free. I have a problem with ANY fetish in a con setting, but it happens too often with fursuits. I also cant bring myself to take those who think theyre actually animals/were once an animal/etc seriously.

Oh my, I love fursuits. They are just fun to look at, and fun to wear. There were a lot of fursuiters at a recent con I attended.

I personally really like toon suits, especially if they have articulate jaws and follow-me eyes.
My favorite kind of suits are pic related, though. But that level of detail must be so fucking hard so it's no wonder it's rarely done...

I'm scared of them.

It's not really their fault. I was just the kid who was afraid of Chuckie Cheese when I was little.

>>6707760
ugh for me the whole chuckie cheese thing terrifed me because I could hear the animatronic/robotic parts moving inside... I didn't care that they were big mascots... I just feared the robots inside them...

Anyway... I have no problem with fursuits or furries... I don't get why people think they are creepy? Even the small % that are into the fetish stuff... I mean there is weirder shit out there that doesn't get nearly as much shit talk as furries, which I really don't understand... And the majority that don't do the kink side... isn't it basically the same as any hobby? Just doing what they love?

I just don't understand why they get such a bad reputation. There are aspie fucks in every hobby or fandom and weirder kinks out there yet furries always get hate. Never understood it and I'm not even one of them.

I don't find furries creepy at all. People with rape fetishes are way creepier. Compared to rape, an anthropomorphic wolf with blue fur and a mohawk is pretty fucking innocuous.
I also appreciate the craftsmanship that goes into a fursuit. Some of them are really impressive, and I enjoy seeing them.
If I see a really good one, I'll usually give them a hug and/or ask for a photo. I think they deserve the appreciation, and there's really no valid reason for them to get so much shit when there are so many worse fetishes.

>>6707774
This.
Honestly, I've heard worse shit about Homestucks than fursuiters and yet the latter tend to get a worse rap. I think most of the IRL furry fetishizing/awkwardness comes from people who aren't even wearing suits, too (just ears and tails and pimply faces)-- at least that's what I've seen from my personal experiences.
Honestly, I've made furry-style pawfeet for another costume and they're really fun to both make and wear. I almost want to make a partial fursuit just because of the construction-- it's hard work, but a ton of fun and really fulfilling as you see it come together.

I love it when furries are all "This is my very personal, unique character I need to portray" and it's just the same weird bug-eyed face that thousands of other fursuits/fursonas are based on.

I can appreciate a good fursuit as much as I can appreciate an elaborate well made cosplay, however. I'm

I'm a cosplayer-gone-fursuit-maker. I really really enjoy looking at and making suits! (Fun to design, fun to build, and I feel like I work with the materials better than when I cosplay.) I can't exactly say the same for 99% of furries though.

Only been to one con (one of the bigger US furcons) and despite the people being really well meaning/not sexual, everyone was still super fucking awkward. Like, literally the most spaghetti-everywhere socially awkward autists in one confined area. I never once got the creeper or sexual vibe there, but it was still really uncomfortable.

I honestly felt better interacting with people playing characters in fursuits than I did with people on the con floor. It was definitely a surreal experience.

They're original characters of no fanbase.
Technically cosplay, because a lot of the furries come up with a personality and stuff, it's just not a recognizable character like the rest of the con.

I personally find them creepy, but you have to admire them on a craftsmanship level. Fursuits are expensive, hard to wear, and harder to make. If you're going to put that much effort into some fetish fantasy you came up with on deviantArt, you have some major dedication, son.

>inb4 the foam video

>>6707833
Foam video?

>>6707837
Foam video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnJyCDGLUZU

Frankly when it comes to fursuiting I don't know whether I should be astonished that someone actually put that much effort into a costume or the fact I should be creeped out.

I only consider it cosplaying if it's an established character (i.e. pokemon, mascots, etc). Otherwise it's just costuming.

I don't like the culture represented on the Internet. I'm going to go on the assumption there are not freaky ones out there but the vocal ones are ruining it for those ones.

>>6707843
I just don't get it. Are you creeped out by Larpers too? i'm just trying to figure out what's so creepy?

>>6707702
As someone who uses fursuiting techniques in some of his cosplays...
Yeah, no, I still mostly hate furries.

There are some genuinely badass fursuits out there, though, but I notice quite a few of the best fursuit makers out there started out cosplaying.
That whole, knowing how to sew before attempting a fursuit helps a bit, I hear.

I'm always pro-mascot cosplay, but man, furries can really fuck them up sometimes, like with partial suits and making them look toony instead of accurate.

I really like fursuits - just not the fugly cartoony ones that look like they were rejected from a kids show or the janky I-made-my-first-suit ones. To me it is a step above cosplay. I don't mean it's better or more difficult, but because the costumer is completely encapsulated in their costume they ARE the character, not just dressed like one. I consider fursuits to be just a full-body costume, just like Big Daddies or Master Chief.

>>6707839
What the fuck did I just watch?

I consider it another category, but I don't really care. I don't care about furries, either, as long as they're not into actually bestiality to be honest. I don't think they're as big a deal as everyone makes them out to be, especially since they tend to stay in their own spaces, which they have a lot of. They don't really project their "fandom" I guess, for a lack of a better word like some other fandom is doing. On the other hand, I completely understand why it might upset some people, especially if they unwittingly stumble across it in some innocent image search.

tl;dr: While I find the porn disgusting, I don't feel like furries affect me on any personal level, and as long as they're in their own spaces (or being non-pornographic in more general ones) I don't see why anyone has a problem

I consider it another category, but I don't really care. I don't care about furries, either, as long as they're not into actually bestiality to be honest. I don't think they're as big a deal as everyone makes them out to be, especially since they tend to stay in their own spaces, which they have a lot of. They don't really project their "fandom" I guess, for a lack of a better word like some other fandom is doing. On the other hand, I completely understand why it might upset some people, especially if they unwittingly stumble across it in some innocent image search. And you do have to admire their skill and craftsmanship a lot of the time. They're pretty dedicated.

>tl;dr: While I find the porn disgusting, I don't feel like furries affect me on any personal level, and as long as they're in their own spaces (or being non-pornographic in more general ones) I don't see why anyone has a problem. Also, they have some great artists.

>>6707849
This, it's so rare to see nicely done mascots. I want to do so many characters but I'm hesitant just because I don't want to be lumped in with the furries that wear their OC's to anime conventions and get offended for not knowing who they are.

The bug-eyed faces of the regular fursuits are kinda dumb looking imo, they all look the same to me except recolored. Seriously, I thought they were trying to be unique?

This is pretty fucking awesome though: >>6707757
I wouldn't mind seeing more of those. They must take so much patience to make perfect.

>>6707879
>>6707885

I apologize for the double post, /cgl/ isn't letting me delete the first one for some reason!

>>6707886
If your mascot suit's of a recognizable character, you won't get lumped in with the furries.

I think it's kinda cute in that fun, quirky sort of way. I'm not intrigued by it enough to actually make it into a hobby of mine, though. I don't care about it very much.

I love making mascot cosplays (Pokemon, Digimon, that sort of thing) and some of my 'idols' in the field mostly make fursuits of original characters. But when you see their work, you just can't help but be impressed, and I love to incorporate their methods into my cosplay suits. People who make hyper-realistic suits are my favorite- articulated jaws, moving/blinking eyes, light-up shit... It's all really crazy and you get a real sense of accomplishment when you finish a suit.

Being in a mascot costume at a con is also just a lot of fun. People who know your character get really hyped, you get lots of hugs, and people generally seem to find it less weird if you LARP at them when you're in a suit, since they know you can't exactly speak very well from inside the suit. Kids also get hyped if they know the character (if you're a Pokemon this is pretty much guaranteed) and it's fun to interact with them and their parents.

As far as furries themselves go... I've had mixed experiences with the community, but it's honestly the same ratio of cool people to freaks that I see in any cosplaying circle. It's just inevitable you'll meet upsetting people in such a big group.

i got into furry fandom because i admired fursuits. i'd love to own one of "myself" but they're just too expensive and i suck at making things.

this is my fav suit construction, pic related

How do you guys feel about pony/pokemon/etc fursuits, then?

>>6707929
The eyes on that thing are amazing.

>>6707929
I feel like I've seen that one before...

Despite the giant eyes, I will admit there is something cute about it, but only if it does that kind of pose. If it's just walking, then stops to stare at me, I'm walking faster.

>>6707936
loki and laki, they're pretty popular!

also i think this one is borderline creepy but still cute!

>>6707936

>>6707757
Woah, geez...

Those are gorgeous...

I don't really understand why furries have such a bad rep. Especially with the fetish thing. Maybe I'm just too naïve, though. My rule of thumb is, as long as they don't have a crotch zipper, I'm cool with them until they give me a reason not to be.
Those who think they are/were animals and feel the need to expand on that thought kind of annoy me.

As far as cosplaying goes, the suits are very impressive. I decided I wanted to make a suit, just to see if I could. It takes a lot of dedication and time... and muscles if you don't have electronic tools. After doing it myself, I was incredibly pleased with the result--I feel like I sort of poured my heart into it more than any other costume because of the entire different mindset you needed to build it.
It was a simple Pokemon suit, rather than an OC anything. The fancy cartoon ones are impressive if they have multiple colors/patterns. Making things symmetric is really challenging when you can't just fold it in half and cut the pattern out once! The realistic ones are very impressive and I'll never understand how anyone could make something so advanced.

I think glass eyes and digigrade legs are a nice touch on the realistic ones.

>>6707943
Oh come on, man.

>>6707929
This is what got me to start liking fursuits. This one is adorable and looks like it could be a Digimon/Pokemon.

>>6707932
It's just cosplay without making a gijinka.

>>6707929

Man, I wish all this "mascot cosplay is fine, it's not considered furry" attitude was around when I started making them. I literally put off making Moomba for almost 3 years because, sadly, there was a stigma about it still. (So I did a Pokemon first)

Why do they look like they just walked out of some awful 80s cartoon? Mascots like Pokemon and Rilakkuma and stuff are cute, but the oc furries are just so goddamn hideous and look like a fucking joke most of the time.

>>6707929
>>6707943
>>6708016
Does anyone know how they did the eyes for these?

I used to dislike furries and kind of be rude about them. Just today I happened to read an article putting them in a more positive light. Seeing some of the pictures here with the girly, less generic fursuiters makes me enjoy them a little bit. I really appreciate the dedication that goes into one. I especially like these:

>>6708021
>>6708016
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>>6707757
>>6707743

Check out this fursuit, guys.

You can see it in action here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUULY8FSJQY&list=UU__S2LkEJ8cPvOUEWVbAd5Q&index=3

ITT: Only Japanese fursuits (sans OP)

To be fair Japan has a handful of really nice suits, and then just loads and loads of shit. Nothing in between.

>>6708065
There's a tutorial on pixiv how they did it, but it's basically layers of mesh and paper under clear vinyl

The only fursuits I hate are the ugly ass Disney-esque ones.

No.

>>6708087
They're working on an updated version at the moment as well.

I really have to admire the craftsmanship, artistry and dedication that it takes to create a good fursuit. The only ones I try really hard to avoid are the ones that look like they are wearing spandex shorts, because those are the ones used for sex.

>or perhaps admire the craftsmanship but can't get past the fanbase?

This entirely. I've actually seen some anthro art I found really cool, on its own I don't hate the concept, it's just....the porn. I can't deal with the porn.

I loved this fennec suit and would have liked to have commissioned the artist, but she wants too damn much for what is basically some foam, resin, and airbrushed fur.
It's a nice thought though.

>>6708155
if it's as easy as you seem to think it is, make one yourself.

I know a fursuiter in real life who is actually a cute girl who is pretty chill. I find that for some reason when girls have fetishes that involve playing dressup with odd paraphernalia it is kind of endearing, but I find it creepy and intimidating when guys do it.

>>6708166
Testy, aren't you? And perhaps one should. If a grocery store cashier can do it in her spare time, maybe more people can do it than they think.

>>6708155
How much did she want?

>>6707973
>>6708150
>>6708153

So fucking kawaii. Moar like this please?

>>6708170
..I'm not sure if you worded your post to try to make yourself sound smart but christ almighty you sound pretentious.
But fur suits.. id imagine would certainly cost more than a normal cosplay. I mean, the head, tail, eyes, patterns..plus time. How much does she charge?

I've gone to the fursuit resource LJ so many times looking up techniques.

Furries aren't really my thing, but I can admire the crafstmanship aspects of the hobby, and I don't think they're out of place at non-furry conventions as long as they aren't harassing anyone.

I really love the fursuits of http://www.youtube.com/user/tetetoroort17

>>6708184
Good quality fake fur is also really expensive, and you have to buy a lot of it.

>>6708175
They're all by the same suiter, Pizako.
>http://www.furaffinity.net/user/pizakopizza/

>>6708184
>you sound pretentious
...but weren't you the one telling me I should go "make one myself" just because I don't agree about its price?

>>6708178
Upwards of $3000, not including shipping and of course no guarantee that it will look exactly like previous models. You also need to factor in the costs of making yourself a duct tape dummy (DCT) and buying yourself a pair of throwaway shoes, so you can ship them to her for a full suit construction. That shipping is also on your dime.
Not to mention certain features such as airbrushed fur, OC designs, certain kinds of claws/details, and LEDs can cost extra.

Idk, for some people it's worth it. It just doesn't seem so to me.

>>6708175
It is http://qiqidoll.blog15.fc2.com/

>>6708196
No, sorry I should've said I wasn't the same anon. But I agree, that's a lot of money. But then again I don't comission much anymore. Still, 3k? Better come with a damn prostitute and some crack.

>>6708196
That's a stupid high amount for a suit, for the complexity of the suit shown.

Unless she's doing something with a high level of detail/materials and has a really well known name she probably shouldn't be pricing that high.

>example of a well known name in fursuiting/highly complex suit

I don't mind furries. I don't consider myself a furry, but I've made and worn fursuits before because I wanted to try a different type of costuming and… it's really fun. I had braced myself for hate the first couple times I wore fursuits to SDCC, but besides maybe two insults thrown at me, people freaking loved my costume. Kids especially. I'm not sure why… both of the fursuits I wore weren't even particularly well-made, either. I've actually gotten a lot more insults for my cosplay than my fursuits, which boggles my mind!!

I don't really hang out with other fursuiters, but the ones I've talked to online/chatted in passing/etc have seemed pretty cool, so I have no issues with furries in general.

>>6708170
I'm kind of disturbed that you think just because the person in question is a grocery store cashier, that means everything they do is easy to do.

>>6708224
So the price is in fact ridiculous as other anons confirmed, and now you're going to go find some other menial thing I said and look for an argument in that too? Yeah no, have fun with that.

>>6708229
I'm a different person, and I don't give a fuck what her prices were, since it's not relevant to what I'm talking about. Regardless of how much she charges, or how much it's actually worth, her being a cashier doesn't automatically mean she's a talentless idiot.

I just happen to be a cashier at a grocery store(because, you know school and bills are things that have to be paid for), and I thought it kind of shitty of you to say. I already get that enough from asshole customers at work, and I'm sure she does, too.

>>6708205
>$3000?! Well maybe i'll just go make my own fursuit! WIth hookers! And blackjack!

>>6708229
Yo anon, I'm backing you up with the prices but don't keep going full retard ok

To elaborate, 1.5k to 1.8k is a bit more reasonable, but more than I would personally charge my own customers.

>>6708236
>implying I said she's a talentless idiot
Not what I meant, at all as a matter of fact.
I don't know why you're so hellbent on starting an argument with me (and trying to pretend you're a different person all the while) but let me break it down so you can understand and get off my ass:

(Oh and btw I AM a cashier at a grocery store before you get on your high horse).
Saying someone is a grocery store cashier isn't meant to imply they're stupid or an idiot. Since I personally know all sorts of people with different jobs, talents, and intelligences who make fursuits I already know that you don't need a super special ability or take some fancy art class to make a suit.
Is it difficult? Yes sometimes, but certainly not something that cannot be learned by an average person.

And that's all I was implying. The end.

Thread needs more cosplay fursuits.

>>6708240
> pic related

>>6708245
> you're so hellbent on starting an argument with me (and trying to pretend you're a different person all the while)
Because it's not at all possible that more than one person on this entire website would disagree with something you've said. I'm a different person. I literally just got home from work maybe a half-hour ago. Are you naturally this dumb, or do you have to work at it a little?

> Saying someone is a grocery store cashier isn't meant to imply they're stupid or an idiot.
Sure sounded like you meant it that way. "So easy a(n) x could do it." What are you, Geico? You may not need magical powers or to take classes to know how to make a suit, but I highly doubt that chick just plopped down one day and made a great suit. It took work, time, and dedication, and you used her day job as an excuse to belittle her skill.

Anyone could potentially learn to do anything that anyone else could do, but they don't. Why hold value in any skills at all if you could say, "Well anyone could learn it. I could learn that, too."

>>6708261
>"So easy a(n) x could do it."
You know I didn't say that and I really don't understand why you're trying to pull strawman arguments like this and continue an argument I'm NOT interested in having after I explained what I meant. I'm sorry you misunderstood me, but that's all it was. Seriously. A misunderstanding. I didn't "belittle" her skill, I just implied a lot of average people can make a fursuit after I was condescended upon and told to go "make one myself" like it's such an impossible task versus spending $3000.

>>6708264
That's not strawman at all. I didn't compare it to anything, I paraphrased your statement of "If a grocery store cashier can do it, then..." Which is verbatim what you said. I have a question, if you didn't mean to make it sound belittling or condescending, why mention her day job at all?

You claim that it's to illustrate how well an 'average person' can do something, but being a cashier has little to no bearing on how average a person is.

It may be a misunderstanding, but you can't expect people to know what you're saying if you don't know yourself.

The bottom line is, if her prices are so unreasonable, she wouldn't get any commissions at all. You may not value her skill at what she prices it, but other people do. And if they don't, then they don't buy it, and she would eventually get the hint that she needs to lower her prices. There's no reason to be a dick about it.

>>6708307
>I didn't compare it to anything
A strawman isn't a comparison. A strawman is exaggerating another person's point and attacking something that they never said to begin with. Hence "strawman" is not real.

>she wouldn't get any commissions at all
She doesn't get a lot of commissions...as a matter of fact. Either way I explained it to you so can you just let it go, for real?

>>6708261
>>6708264
>>6708307
>>6708333
furries get buttmad over the dumbest shit

stop derailing the damn thread

>>6708307
>why mention her day job at all
Just because someone mentions a personal detail about someone else doesn't mean they meant it as an insult. I think at this point you're making knee jerk assumptions. They explained what they actually meant so your arguing looks really petty when they clearly want to drop it.
Btw you're spamming the thread with off topic bicker, sage your posts at least people.

Oh my god shut the fuck up and post good fursuits. This is starting to look like the kigurumi threads on jp.

seconding that shut the fuck up

Fuck y'all, I'm selfposting my everything, in order, to clear out the bullcrap.

okay i actually had to look up whether i did moomba or mewtwo first. wow.

>>6708411
omg this is really cute

aaand that's it until I finish Dust tomorrow.

>>6708430
That is so freaking cute!

Posting more of Pigu's work
>>6707757

>>6708451
I love their work, especially their Monster Hunter stuff complete with little feylene

Since we're on the topic of fursuits, I actually have a question about possibly making a fursuit head. Sage for kinda off topic.
I was wanting to cosplay pic related and have his head be like a mascot/fursuit head. But I'm having some issues with planning it. Basically every fursuit head I've seen and every tutorial I've watched makes them in two pieces, one bottom jaw and one top (the top one including the nose, eyes, ears, etc). But with Ziggs his face is more human-structured. So I don't think I'd be able to make his face into two pieces (one bottom jaw and a top) because the tan fur (muzzle?) is connected as one piece. I don't really know if this makes sense, but does anyone think it would be possible to make a mascot Ziggs head and make it look like it's one solid piece? I know if I use foam that won't exactly work because if I were to open my mouth (which I would like to be able to do) the foam would rip apart when I open my mouth.
I hope this makes sense.

>>6708509
I'm a little confused on your question. Did you want a static jaw or not?

If you were to have a static jaw, you could make the head identical to the picture with no structural problems. Don't think of the foam too hard in terms of "what type of skull does this unrealistic cartoon character have", and think of it more in terms of a hairless version.

Were you planning on using a foam base, or a cast base? I'm going to bed now, but I'll check back in the morning and try to help out if the thread is still around.

>>6708660
Sorry I figured I would confuse people. I really want the jaw to be able to move. I would like to open and close the mouth but I'm not sure how to go about making it that way. I was planning in using foam.

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>>6708194

I actually like these. Reminds me of years and years ago when I used to play Second Life and wore this cute rabbit thing that you could get from participating in an event.

It's a fetish people keep trying to turn into a lifestyle.

This thread has convinced me to make a pokemon suit rather than my fursona.
Except I'm making a partial... How weird would it be to see a pokemon in clothes?

>>6708722
Then again, this growlithe is pretty adorable.

>>6708722
Terrible. I hate when people do that.
Think of it applied to another kind of cosplay. Think of... Master Chief, helmet, boots, gloves and forearm armor... but tshirt and jeans. Pretty dumb, right? one would ask, where's the rest of the costume?

>>6708725
Another case of furries making crap toony instead of accurate to the character. Another peeve of mine.

>>6707757
This is fucking awesome

I admire the craftmanship that comes with making such a thing, but I don't really like the fanbase. I don't mind fursuits of some anthromorphic animal from a show or game though (Like stuff from Starfox), those guys/gals are okay most of the time. I just dislike when people do it because it is a fetish...

>>6708667
http://fursuit.livejournal.com/tag/moving%20jaw
I'd suggest checking out this tag on the fursuit LJ. I've gotten some useful tips, maybe something in there can help you too.

When they're well-done, they're really amazing. They are a little off-putting at first when they're overly cartoony and goofy looking. Thankfully the talented suiters don't yiff in their costumes.

I would auction my house to see Ken in a fursuit

>>6708194
On his/her ameblo he/she even posts how she makes her heads.
http://qiqidoll.blog15.fc2.com/blog-entry-282.html
http://qiqidoll.blog15.fc2.com/blog-entry-283.html

I've wanted to make cute fursuits for a very long time but I never had te guts to do it. Mostly because of the fetish thing, I love cute characters and I really want to wear a cute fursuit like the japanese ones but I really can't see the characters in a sexual way. I really hate the whole thing with people automaticly thinking only men with creepy fur fetishes wear those suits... I'm thinking of making a fursuit of a realistic kitten in a sweet/classic lolita outfit. I would work really hard to make it as perfect as possible, with realistic fur, moving jaws with teeth and detailed eyes, in a really pretty coord. I just feel happy and warm thinking about being so cute and fluffy~

But I'm really afraid of actually start working on it because of the prejudice people will have on me. It wouldn't really end well if I had to explain my mother I'm planning to make a really expensive cat suit and walk around in it at cons and fairs. Especially the furry part, since furry things actually don't interest me at all, only the suits.

I think that when a person puts a lot of effort into their fursuit, it's amazing. I've seen some awe-inspiring fursuits. Not sure if I'd count it as cosplay or not, but I respect the time, money, and effort put into making the good ones.

I won't lie, I'd love to try my hand at making a fursuit someday.

Sly Cooper is a dream cosplay of mine, and I have to do at least a mask and legs+tail suit parts. My only problems are that I by spandex and the foam and 3D fur, and I have friends who think Avatar/navi cosplayers=furries (but fuck them, it was a great game). Gijinka is half ass and looks like shit.

>>6709198
*I'm intimidated by

I personally never found furries to be creepy (except maybe furry porn fanart) and could never quite understand the hate for it. On the other hand I was never really interested in furry fandom either. I guess I'm kinda like the swiss when it comes to that. I have a few friends who are into it and they make really awesome plushy things. I gotta say it's remarkable though how much work some people put into making an entire human sized fur suit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YpYswGtg5s

protip: moving jaws add bulk to the fursuit head, it can throw off the ratio of head to body if you dont have a big bulky suit to balance it (ie for king kazma or something)

>>6709142

You should go for it! I have seen some pretty cute girls under those suits.

I like fursuits but I usually hate most fursuiters.
They always strike me as holier than thou and they have huge egos. OCs tend to be worse.

>>6709252
All the fursuiters I've met have been super super nice. Once I got an injury, and they helped me patch it up and calmed me down. I've yet to met any rude ones.

I have a bit more respect for some of them now that I know some of them make their suits. But my general opinion of them is neutral nearing negative. I've met a lot of rude, annoying OC holier than thou ones.

>>6709263
Good for you.

>>6709142
I know that feel anon ;_;
I really love cute fursuits and would like to make one, but I'm afraid that people would give me a hard time, especially my cosplay friends as they really look down on furries. I like some cute animal designs, doesn't mean I think I'm one or want to screw one, why is it so hard to understand?

>>6708941


The whole slackjawed DURR HURR expression that a lot of fursuits have creeps me the fuck out.

Lived with one for a year before she moved out of state, she was pretty sweet but never liked going out (unless it was for a con) and we had our fair share of battles about the overflow of costumes/fabrics/furs since I liked keeping the apartment clean.

She also tried to hide the fact that she had found a kitten and planned on keeping it even though our agreement was no pets.

Majority of arrogant fursuiters are shitty. If they're good, they won't shout from the rooftops that they're open for commissions or "look at my latest work". See pic related for terrifying fursuit with notorious drama behind it.

>>6709379
do say dramu

On the whole I like them, I'd even like to wear one. However, I avoid the fuck out of any wearing a full suit and just shorts due to the amount of "strategically placed holes". Or fucksuits, basically.
I have a list of fursuits to never ever ever touch ever.

>>6709379
Oh jesus fucking christ her.

Kill it with fucking fire.

>>6709379
>go_on.jpeg

>>6709409
>>6709389
I'm not the above poster but I have my own drama with her. I can't tell you in public however because she knows who I am and if she finds this thread (which she will) she'll eat my face.

Have some more pictures of it instead.

>>6709389
>>6709409

She's managed to be banned from UK's main furry website despite being "popular" (her imagination, not mine), when critiqued on Badfursuits she responded by abusing the poster/ her customer - thus getting herself banned from there too. Pretty much hated by all in the Uk community, asides from a few who got on her good side. Accused someone of raping her then was best friends with him a week later, after making him spend a night in a police station being questioned. Gets people's phone numbers and sends them abusive texts. Fucks around with everyone's partners.

She glues her suits together and when they fall apart hotglues them back together again, if she does repair them. When given advice by Fatkraken on how to improve, she essentially said "my customers don't complain so I don't improve" - her customers do complain, but she just cuts them off.

If you ever watch a livestream when she's working, wait for her kid to come into the room to complain he's shat himself or that he wants his mummy. She basically knocks him back and tells him she's too busy to take care of him. Prime example of somebody needing to take responsibility for her life.

I feel sorry for her though. She got pregnant very young, the dad's out the picture, she lives off of Wonga.com loans and from whatever she makes from her art and fursuiting. She'll live hand to mouth forever and will eventually disappear once she realises she can't make money from the scene anymore.

>>6709445
Oh you got there first.

>>6709449
Please be my guest, post horrifying pictures. I am very curious as to who you are! I understand about not wanting to give your name though - I don't know her well but she knows friends (outside furry) of mine and the fallout would be too dull to handle. Ugh.

Ahh that first suit's eyes holy shit

>>6709456
I know her personally. I'm actually dying to tell my story but she has my phone number.

fursuitreviews(.)livejournal(.)com/43182.html Here's a nice thread of everything bad about her for anyone else that wants to read it.

>>6707702
Unless their suits are of an copyrighted character, like Simba or something then I guess it'd be cosplay. Otherwise, I'd say it's a different category.

I don't like or hate it, I just find any faceless/body suit costumes really frightening.

I do respect the time and effort people put into these, and some are really good.

I've only encountered fursuitters once, and they were really nice.

>>6709456
>>6709472
Why are you people so terrified of this person? What can she possibly fucking do to you? Especially if it's such a well known fact that she's a drama queen? Why would anyone worth a shit actually listen to her if she bad mouthed you for spreading the truth? And the people who WOULD listen to her would be on the same, low -life, level, right? So why would their opinions matter any more than hers?

>>6709472
this review is all over the place...
>cant get as all pics are with builder and i am blocked from them
>5/5 These matched perfectly to what I imagined as a new partial. relay went above what i could have hoped for visually any way.
>She kept in communication with me very well. Keeping me well-informed on the progress of the partial
>My only complaint is how a £300 quote turned in to a £500 and rising black hole

Sorry this review is like 5/5 BUT IT WAS FALLING APART BUT SHE WAS NICE THE WHOLE TIME AND MY ONLY ISSUE WAS IT WAS EXPENSIVE

>>6709499
>>6709472
Agreed, the review is wishy washy and the girl you're complaining about didn't even post on it?

How is this 'everything bad about her' when it looks like the reviewer doesn't even know what the fuck he's talking about and didn't even provide pictures that show any damage?

>>6709483
It's not her opinion of me I'm scared about, nor what she could ever say about me but rather if she chooses to sit on me.

She also appeared on TV here recently and my mum (who is aware of my costumey tendencies) pointed her out and asked if I knew her. We had a laugh with each other because the presenter ignored her the whole time.

>>6709507
? Im confused you mean literally sit on you?

>>6709499
>>6709502
Fursuit reviewers like to be ~nice~ about crits. I can attest to how badly she makes suits though. I had to take one apart.

>>6709514
I guess I was expecting something else considering it was pre-faced with 'everything bad about her' and it's a terribly written review by someone who obviously doesn't speak english as a first language either.

>>6709483
Terrified is the wrong word - but she's stay at home and has all the time in the world to spend actually spamming your phone, house, etc. Not only that we both attend the same furmeets and I'd like to continue. I don't see how it affects anyone.

>>6709513
yes literally sit on me. She's huge and I'm tiny.
This one looks good for her work until you realise that the vision is literally through those tiny little black slits.

>>6709520
Alright, I guess I just don't understanding living in fear of someone. If she's going to harass you, you can call the police or block her number. If she's going to start shit at the same meet ups, guess what, SHE looks like the douche, not you, especially if you keep your cool. I guess I'm just too old to let bullies get the best of me.

>>6709516
The writing just seems like "can't write coherently"; ESL speakers tend to overuse grammar rather than write in this confusing manner.

>>6709522
... That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. You can call the police for that. Stop being a baby.

This is totally a giraffe.

>>6709527
>6709527
>>>6709520
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I don't live in fear, but I don't get why you want to know my name. She only registers on my "trainwreck" scale, but I don't want to deal with the fallout.

>>6709539
I don't want your name, I wanted a good story...

>>6709540
Sorry chum - I can't stand her so I don't stick around her circle long enough to observe everything. All the crap she pulls is pretty public anyway - using patterns for commercial use, for example - and is documented quite well in various places, so I'm afraid I shan't be entertaining you today.

>>6709533
Alright fine whatevs. I'm gonna get crushed to death for this.

My friend owns pic related, it's a travesty of hot glue and clay teeth. He couldn't wear it for long due to the fact that he couldn't see shit through the eyes, despite the fact that she promised he'd be able to get his glasses in the suit. A week later and one wear which is when the picture was taken, the jaw fell off. The claws on the hands are glued in sideways and the tail is attached by a single loop and made on one of those blue foam tubes. I've taken it in for repairs and the whole lot of fur ripped off in one go. She doesn't know I have it, hopefully.

Later on in the year I let my friend borrow my tumblr account to post a picture to a bad fursuit tumblr. She found it. After explaining that I didn't post it, she called me a backstabbing cunt and went on a nice longwinded rant about how terrible I am. This was all through the friend that owns the suit in the picture. She's also made a few lovely comments about me in earshot at furmeets about my own (admittedly completely shit) work that I never plan on selling if I can help it. However she charges upwards of £300 for stuff that just doesn't look any good or even fit you.

Holy cow, she's got this auction going on - stating nobly that 10% is going to Cancer Research (doesn't state which specific charity and there's no justgiving page etc.)

http://www.furaffinity.net/full/10137234/

But that's only £35 or so at best really for very overpriced items - if this was so noble she'd be giving all the profits to charity (or be pricing them far lower).

>>6708430
D'awww~

If I got to wear a suit like that, maybe I'd try the Furry fandom.

>>6708451
>>6708470
>>6708476
>>6708487
>>6709102
>>6708427
>>6708215
>>6708153
>>6708150
>>6708016
>>6708021
>>6707973
>>6707929

HHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGG

>>6709609
And considering she traces all her work.....

Okay, sorry but I have a really dumb question.

How do you see out of some of these masks?
Especially ones like these:
>>6707929
>>6709114

Is it through the pupils in the eyes, or are there slits where it isn't obvious, or what?

>>6709783
Pupils are made out of something called buckram. Or you can use tearduct vision. Have a look at matrices.net for tutorials.

cosplayer here who needs a mascot rabbit head. What is a good asking range for just a head? No Fur involved.

>>6708725
How much are you selling this for?
I've got a full suit I'm trying to sell but I'm not terribly sure how much to price it.

>>6709555
I can understand why she thinks so terribly of you, because from her perspective, you really do look like a cunt, but she's going to have to face her shitty craftsmanship at some point if she doesn't want this kind of thing to happen again.

>>6709805
like a foam base?
many will do that on a balaclava for around 80-100$ before shipping.
unless you want it to be a larger mascot head, then you'll have to ask around about pricing and construction.

It doesnt look like a giraffe, it looks like a piece of shit

Yiff in Hell furfags

I dont realy like to see random furries at a anime con.
Its kind of strange if they want to hug everyone, and act like a real cat/dog/fox whatever...

But like some poeple before me already said, its something diffrent if they play a known character (pokemon,digimon..). I like such "mascot" like costumes.

>>6709555
http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/akhil/430715/742619/742619_original.jpg

This made by the same person?

>>6708409
>>6708427
>>6708451
>>6709783
>>6710195
>>6712063
>>6712073

Awesome, but most are made professional for promotion

>>6708427
the left one looks so fucking comfy to wear

>>6708016
oh my goodness, this one is absolutely adorable.

fursuits are an all around nope for me...... they creep me out. i dont know if it's because of the awkward human gestures and the whole being mute kinda things they have goin on but... it's creepy and most of the fursuits you see at cons aren't even anime/video game related they're just people's "fursonas". that whole thing skeevs me out too but we won't go there....

>>6712788
This is way cool.

>>6712795
The guy who makes all of these is amazingly talented

>>6712802
I've seen his work in person (at the ren faire). It's amazing!

>>6712802
Creepy as fuck but kind of neat.

>>6712802
in awe.
i would love to wear one of these and wait in someone's closet just to see if they'd notice me move.

>>6712802
The creator is the woman in the front row with the white mask.

>Be at the food court during a con
>person in a fursuit sits down next to me
>takes off the mask/head to reveal a very attractive, albeit sweaty, woman underneath
>mfw

>>6712802
It's cool, but I kept staring at this picture feeling something was really off, and I mean, REALLY off. Then I noticed the one at the top left... oh god, I'm going to have nightmares now.

This is one of those things I'd love to try, but have no experience in the matter and lack the money and time to just simply try. Maybe one day...

>>6713452
id love you forever if you did
that was a super fun game. even with the dangerously furry undertones and stupid part 2 plot.

>>6713467

It had a hell of a lot of charm.

Even still, my skills are sub par. It hurts my balls just thinking hot to assemble that outfit, let alone the head.

>>6712788
This looks like something out of a Jim Henson production, which is ballin.

However; Yiff in hell Furfags, Purge the Unclean, etc, etc, etc.

Can't help it, the fandom and creepy porn has ruined it for me. Every furry I've met has also been a Little, into Daddy/Daughter incest kiddy stuff, Watersports and Diapers, quite a few Scat fetishist, and all of them just... disgusting...

i always thought it was meh/funny but i was really admiring it this year at the local convention....

Im not sure how to get started though

>>6713496
but doesn't every weird fandom have creepy porn and autist fucks?

>>6713527
Yeah they do, but... It's easier to run into the extreme weirdos in the furry fandom. I know a few furries and only one of them is relatively "normal".

The others bought jack in the box and would eat it and then throw it up and eat it again (in public) saying that they were getting closer to their wolf animal spirits. This... Happened at college campus where I lived.

>>6713563
oh hell fucking no

>>6707710
>level of dedication
I read up on it, fursuits look fucking easy. No harder than a really good prop, honestly.

>>6713733
they're harder than they look, trust me.
most prop tutorials look far, far easier than the actual task itself.
as a fursuit maker, i can guarantee that theyre a fuckton of work if you want a good one

ITT japan knows how to make cute suits.
I like fursuits in a sense but I much rather like seeing ones that go outside the most common "style" that pervades the community.
If I were to invent my own character I'd want one that looekd fun with a unique head style or whatever. Bring a cartoon animal to life, rather than "making a furry character", if that makes sense.

>>6713746
Well all right, I'll take your word for it! I've been thinking of trying it someday. I've worked with resin stuff in the past and using slightly less toxic materials sounds much nicer.

>>6713750
as hard as it is to make, they're fun if you're into that stuff! they're super comfy too, sort of like a plushie kigurumi

i used to buy weed from this dude and now he wears this to every convention...

also, i appreciate good fursuits because they took a lot of work, but furries freak me out.especially horrible shit like pic related.

>>6713769
fuck i forgot the goddamn picture, here

It's funny to me how people are saying them wanting hugs is creepy... I never thought so. I'm not a furry but I always make a point to hug one at cons. They're soft! Better faux fur than some dude's sweaty t-shirt like the humans that want to hug me.

>>6713778
Dont forget to add semen in that fur

>>6707851
If I was creeped out by Larpers and costuming in general, I wouldnt even be on /cgl/.

>>6713452
Oh please PLEASE do! I would also love you forever.

>>6712083
Ehhm no? Those cat fursuits are made by http://www.furaffinity.net/user/xpigux/

>>6713476
Oh definitely. It was beautiful and I loved the robots. I'm glad to hear the company is making something new.

>>6712802
>>6712788

I've met that white dragon a few times at ren faires, that costume is amazing. The eyes glow and the moveable jaw has detailed teeth and tongue. And she was fluffy and soft~

>>6713496
Like stated in this thread a few times, not everyone that likes fursuiters likes it in a sexual way.

I don't mind furries and fursuits, in fact some of that shit is downright hnnngworthy and adorable when done right, but the fetish aspect is off-putting to me and the fandom seems largely horrid and populated by crazy people and shitty art.

>>6712082
>http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/akhil/430715/742619/742619_original.jpg
Why yes it is.

>>6713966
>>http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/akhil/430715/742619/742619_original.jpg

Rather scary shit! I wonder how much wasted on that costume

>>6713981
It was probably about £300 ($456.42 for reference)

>>6714000
$400 for that?! gotta be douche to fall for that! I have seen nicer ones for that much

>>6714000
lulz it seems that head was on Bad fur
http://bad-fur.livejournal.com/433578.html

Does anybody else have a phobia of quadsuits? I actually like them in photos and I'm one of those people who isn't a furry but appreciates the fuck out of a well done suit, but whenever I see a quadsuit IRL I become unreasonably terrified. I think it's something about how they move?

It makes me feel like a dickwad when I have to get someone to help me physically nope the fuck outta there. I'm sorry quadsuit wearers, I can only appreciate your work in still photographs!!

>>6714170
Nobody ever gets the joints right. Even when they're done amazingly, they're terrifying. Don't feel bad anon.

>Captcha: rocking beastr

>>6713961
Sure, not everyone does. However, there is no mistake that there is a very large amount that do, to the point where it's extremely difficult to separate the fandom from some of the more sexual tendencies. It's similar to wearing a corset; some people see it as fashion aid, but a lot of people use corsets in BDSM, to the point where if you wore a corset in public you will more likely encounter people who associate your fashion choice with fetish gear.

I actually was curious about how much of the furry fandom was sexual or not, and I came across some interesting studies. I'll try to find them to post them here, but the studies took polls of how many furries were into the sexual part of the fandom (pornography, yiffing, etc.), versus how many were not. The average number was about 60% of the furries that were polled partook in the sexual part of the fandom. There were some other interesting findings, like 30% aligned themselves as homosexual and there was a high number of people that said they fell somewhere in the autistic spectrum. However, the studies did not state if the sampled furries in the study were actually diagnosed with some form of autism or aspergers, or if it was simply self-proclaimed, so I feel that more information is needed before that can be confirmed.

When I get home from work I'll try to find the studies, they were pretty interesting to read.

>>6714208
I'd love to read these findings

I have a sort of morbid fascination with furries in general, so I enjoy fursuits. It just seems so extreme and they go to such lengths to get these things made. The well done ones can be very impressive in terms of construction, too. The whole thing is pretty interesting imo, and furries being the way they are makes it even more interesting.

I legitimately want to go to a furry convention and just people watch.

>>6714283
see
>>6707821

>>6714208
>>6714244
I second this. I would love to read that.

>>6714361
>>6714244
>>6714208
Okay, I found three that I read before, but I'm missing I think one or two more studies. These cover more along the lines of their sexual orientation and stuff. Also, the strange dichotomy with the perception of the importance of sex to themselves vs the perception of the importance of sex to other furries is a very interesting result. a bunch of them said sex was the leat important, but then said they perceived that sex was medium to medium-high in importance to other furries. Projection? Who knows. Also, most furries are male, but I guess that was no surprise.

https://sites.google.com/site/anthropomorphicresearch/past-results/international-online-furry-survey-2011

http://www.flayrah.com/4287/arp-survey-finds-nearly-1-4-furs-identify-bronies

https://sites.google.com/site/anthropomorphicresearch/past-results/international-online-furry-survey-2011

http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Furry_Survey#Sexual_Activity
http://www.klisoura.com/ot_furrysurvey.php

>>6714360
Is it bad that the spaghetti-spilling is what I'm interested in? I can't think of better entertainment.

Tell me more about these furries.

I don't like when they wear fursuits at ANIME conventions. It just make it seems more like a gathering of weirdos, and not a convention of people all interested in the same thing with events and such for that one thing. It's the same reason I hate Homestuck and other things in my anime conventions, furries are not excused from this unless it's a fur suit of a specific anime character.

>>6713026

This sounds really unlikely, women are so rare in furry communities that even girls like total hamplanets get worshipped to death and fawned over.

>>6718235
A lot of good suitmakers are women, more then men.

>>6718242
I got the impression that many good suitmakers aren't even really furries themselves, just craftspeople who know where the money is.

>>6718235
This is, unfortunately, true.

>>6718231
I see what you're saying, but it's not as bad as the 50 closet cosplay doctors I see at every con.

I think that they're often a little creepy-looking (especially when they go for the cartoony look like the one in the OP image), but I have to respect the expertise that goes into their construction. That being said, I feel that they're not appropriate wear for anime or comic conventions, unless it's an existing character. If you want to wear a Pikachu or Kyubey suit to an anime con, that's one thing, but people who take their super-special-snowflake wolf OC fursuits to conventions that aren't dedicated furry cons strike me as attention whores.

>>6718231
>>6719968
I think fursuiters wear their suits to anime cons because they don't have a lot of opportunities to wear their suits. Lots of places don't allow masks, and often times people will think you are promoting something. It's not so much an attention whore thing as much as furries taking advantage of the rare opportunities to do what they really enjoy.