/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Foam and wire.

styrofoam

Thanks

I LOVE THAT MOVIE!!!!

how the heck do you even get something like that to stay on your head without it falling forward

Sell your soul+a million Dick Grayson butts to sonteen and then she will grant you otherworldly wig powers.

>>6652888
*amount

>>6652844
I offered her $150.00 to make me a wig, but that was not a fixed about. I would pay out more of a nicer wig and dish out even more for fastest shipping.

We were going to the same con, I so arranged to meet her at her hotel. Her and her buddy was super nervous for some reason, mumbling something about having to use hairpins to hold down the back. Before I could get in a word in or even look at the wig, she vanished. Like..ran out.

That was because she gave me a piece of shit. Like, you couldn't fix it. It was so bad. I stood there, really getting a chance to look at it and burst into tears. Instead of saying, look I can't do it or there isn't enough time. Later, she sent me a message saying she would return $30 bucks for shipping. I didn't even response. I was...so upset. I had a costume I spent $800 bucks on and no wig. I tried to contact her with the number she gave me, but I was being avoided. Like an idiot, I listened when she asked me to "gift" her the money through paypal. She was pretty insistent upon that. I had to just wipe my hands clean of the whole matter, because I foresaw this turning into a huge matter. I think I still have the pictures too on my phone.

Just seeing her damn face rustles my jimmies.

>>6652888
She probably asked you to gift her the money because otherwise, Paypal takes a chunk out of it that neither seller nor buyer will probably want to pay for. That part wasn't a scam, just a pretty normal paypal practice.

Aside from that, I don't really have comments on that situation.

>>6652888
She always came off sketchy to me, I'm sorry that happened to you.

>>6652888
Oh man, it's you again! that wig looks ridiculously awesome. Much better than 96% of this board could ever manage. Sonteens done tons of amazing commissions with no complaints, all her wigs look great.

Make your own wig next time if you've got such high standards.

Also, learn to paypal. Gift payments are to avoid fees that either you or she has to pay for. She really just saved you money.

>>6652888
How bad was it? Like were there bald spots?

>>6652902
>>6652897
From what I know from lolita threads gift payments are bad because you can't do a dispute with them.

>>6652912
Not bad at all. That buyer was so rude and horrible about the wig she worked so hard on, its one of the major reasons sonteen stopped doing commissions: Assholes like him who will never be happy unless the wig is literally made of anime.

>>6652943
Are there pics?

>>6652943
I want to see pics before I make any judgments. Sonteen's always seemed really cool around here and on dA, though. And her work over there is great. But if this is true, that sucks balls.

I know she posts here sometimes - any comment?

>>6652912
I was suppose to be villetta nu. The wig is suppose to be grey. It was washed out purple and blue. It's suppose to be a ponytail wig, it had bald spots all in the back and edges, like the entire cap was showing. Glue was used I believe to pull everything into one, parts had clumped. Now...the ponytail, oh man. She cut the wig, only to to extend the length of it with a hunk of hot glue....so hot glue was all over the entire length of the ponytail.

The kicker. This was for my anniversary, she was all sweet and nice. She knew was this was for and she swore up, down and sideways that she wouldn't fail me. That she would pull out all the stops for me.

>>6652914
Correct you can't...=c

>>6652914
>From what I know from lolita threads gift payments are bad because you can't do a dispute with them.
That's true, but if you trust the seller / are willing to take the risk, gift payment saves you around 3% of your money

>>6652943
Huh? This post confuses me. Is something trying to post as me or is something confusing me with someone else. Cause, I'm not a guy...I'm a girl.

>>6652946
Yeah, its on an old cell phone.

>>6652953
She does post on here. I even didn't go to the meet up that was organized by the seagulls for the con. Husband thought it would be wise not to try and choke her.

I'd have to find the phone and charge it up. I promise you, this is not an exaggeration.

>>6652953
There are no pics of how "bad" it is because its NOT bad at all. OP ruined the wig theirselves trying to restyle it after sonteen slaved over it and worked hard for them. I remember the whole thing unfold on twitter, sonteen got so upset by their reaction that she stopped taking commissions. OP just comes around every once in a while to shit talk Sonteen.

>>6652977
I don't have twitter, I have NO idea what you're talking about. I think your confusing me with someone else, seriously. There is no way, I could restyle anything, it was ruined beyond any sort of repair.

This is my first time ever talking about this EVER.

>this thread

>>6652977
When did this all take place, how many years ago and what con? Since you know so much. Because, I the only form of contact I've ever had with this girl was through the number she gave me and after being ignored for the day. I dropped it entirely. I had nothing to say to her and this is my first time voicing my upset about the matter.

But, I'm glad some one called her out on her BS. But, that wasn't me.

I found the phone, turning it on and hoping the pics are still there.

>>6652986
Im talking about sonteen, dumbass. She worked hard on that JP wig and you ruined it, complaining it was horrible and she was some scam artist. Trying to find her tweets about the ordeal now.

Im sure the pictures will have magically disappeared.

>>6652997
Did you throw out the wig?

>>6653000
JP wig? Nope, wrong person. Please learn how to read, I had a Villetta Nu wig done from the anime Code Geass.

Nope, I still have the pictures it seems, awesome. You can see I took them at the hotel lobby, where she left me standing and people walking buy saw everything and kept saying, man...she ripped you off. That thing looks horrible, hope you only paid $10 bucks of it.

Oh, let me update. She used TAPE to extend the wig and hot glue to give it an extra but of bonding to hold things in place. How thoughtful of her. =)

Oh, and heres the back of the wig for anyone actually believing OP about it being "horrible" and a mess.

>>6653008
Except it's not OP and they're talking about a different wig? This sonteen seems to be getting all sorts of people mixed up.

>>6653008
No one said that was the horrible wig...
Lrn2readingcomprehension

>>6653000
>>6653008
Learn to read, idiot. This isn't about the wig in the OP photo. It's about a Viletta Nu wig, like the buyer mentioned in this thread. Fuck off.

>>6653008
Wait she never said it was that wig, she said upthread it was a Viletta wig. Reading comprehension, anon, get some.

Eagerly awaiting that cellphone pic OP

>>6653021
OP isn't the one with the horrible wig. What part of that don't you understand?

>>6653008
Aside from the fact that you haven't been reading any of OP's posts properly did someone ruin THIS wig as well?

>>6653030
I know someone bitched at her like crazy for this wig.

Also, we're all still waiting for this horrible wig you apparently have photos of.

>>6653021
Trying, its an old crappy phone and I'm trying to find the driver for it. Sorry for the wait, I tried to take a picture of the phone with the image, just so you know I'm not a troll.

>>6653043
Hi Sonteen.

>>6653043
Why would I have photos of the wig? I'm not even OP

>>6653011
Ignore the shitstorm. The quantity of dumb here is massive.

You seem eminently reasonable, so I'm inclined to believe you, but I need to see the pictures first. is it a phone thing that's keeping you from posting them?

>>6653049
Not to be rude but that's just a really grainy photo of a wig.

>>6653049
That is a pretty old phone, I don't blame you for having trouble with it.

>>6653063
Well, she did say she's trying to get the pics off the phone, and that's just to prove she's not a troll while she's working on it...

>>6653056
Yeah, like I said. It's an old phone that has been banged up. I keep trying to connect it to my laptop but it says I cannot find the driver. Ugh. All the phone, with no removable memory to put in it. I took a picture of the phone with my camera....still trying get this to work.

>>6653049
And wheres the proof at all red-cluster made this? all im seeing is a super low quality photo of a wig you probably screwed up yourself.

Gonna need more evidence than that, especially nothing proving its red-clusters.

>>6653049
You can see how shitty it is from that. Did you keep the wig or toss it?

>waiting for pics

>>6653071
Nice job moving the goalposts.

>>6653071
>>6653063

Read: >>6653049

> I'm trying to find the driver for it
>just so you know I'm not a troll.

It's obvious there's more coming you gigantic retards.

>>6653071
Proof.

>>6653108

>>6653108

>>6653108

>>6653108

>>6653108
>Priscilla Roobsawang
>Roobsawang
>Roobs a wang
>Rubs a wang

Priscilla rubs a wang.

>>6653076
I think I found a driver. I hope this works! In the meantime, another crappy photo taken with my camera of my phone.

You can see how she cut the hair...use...tape and hot glue to extend the ponytail.

The driver is almost done!

>>6653108
inb4 butthurt no reading comprehension anon calls this a shoop

>>6653135
>>6653135
>>6653135

jfc I was just trying to be tryhard funny how did this thread even happen.

>>6653135
If you were doing the ponytail, wouldn't that part of the wig have been covered anyway? Not saying that she should've cut corners for how much you paid for the commission, but I imagine the impact may not have been affected if that part ended up being hidden, although it does look kinda bulky.

>>6653135
I don't even have an issue with sonteen but I am so excited for these photos

>>6653154
>Not saying that she should've cut corners

I agree. If I were making that wig for myself, yeah I'd do that to the ponytail. If it were for someone else, only if they approved of it, and I'd offer a discount (since, you know, it's less labour and all).

>>6653154

Yeah what this anon said. It could have been covered up, but it does look a tad too chunky.

>>6653154
She could have purchased a ponytail separately to begin with instead of trying to go..oh crap, I didn't get the right length. Let me try this out.

The entire thing from the cut down to the end had hot glue strings all over it. it was rock solid because she brushed glue through the end of the bony tail to keep the hairs together. It was like a rock. And the color isn't correct, its a light blue with faint purple streaks. Not grey.

Waiting on those pics, I still can't see the pictures very well.

>>6653193
Er.. not really. Viletta's ponytail wouldn't work with a clip on (if that's what you mean by separately?), it needs to be either gathered straight from the wig somehow, or more likely stubbed and added back on with wefts.

The color, unless you were specific with her about it, I can see too. Her hair has a bluish purple cast a lot of the time. But if these were things discussed beforehand there's no excuse.

>>6653193
Yeah, there probably could've been a lot of ways to style that wig. Color is tricky because of a lot of reasons, and the character's hair color isn't very consistent from anime stills to figures either, but you're the one with the wig, not us.

This is pretty interesting. I shouldn't be apologizing because I have nothing to do with this, but I do feel badly that you ended up getting a bad product. Thanks for being honest with us, in any case.

>>6653216
I would have rather she used a clip-on, instead of what she did. Which was butcher the wig.

In fact, she was so familar with this character and was going through all this trouble to find the right shade. Because, I said her hair is grey and she went on to correct me what shade it was and she would make the best choice. "Don't worry anon, I've got this. Trust me."

Yeah, I'm fighting with this phone. Hence why I don't use it no more, is a touch broken. *sigh* Oh...the pics of horror on this thing.

>>6653240
Sorry everyone, I tried so hard to get my phone to work but its simply not wanting to work! For now, I have taken pictures of my phone and turned up the setting on my camera to HD. To be honest, the pictures don't have to be %100 perfect for you to clearly see the crap I was given in return for the money I paid out.

>1 She cuts the wig, then attaches tape with hot glue to extend the ponytail.

>2 People who saw what happened at the front desk, stayed behind to ask what the happened. Also I held up the ponytail so you can get a better look.

>3 The back of the wig
>4 The side of the wig
>5 The top of the wig
>6 Another angle of the top
>7 The other side of the wig
>8 The ponytail, note the wig is bluish purple not grey
>9 Another look at the ponytail, the front desk manager in the background

This was all taken in the lobby, shortly after to made a run for it. So, no tampering of the wig had been done. This is how I received it.

>>6653403
Sorry, I wanted to point something out as well.

>1 the bangs where left untouched, you can still the natural texture of the wig, also you get an idea of the length.

It was a lot more blueish-purple in person. Also, she picked the wig to work with and said, she only works with high end type wigs...blah, blah. I didn't care, I told her I would fork over more money for a really nice wig. I had to throw out the wig, because it wouldn't fit in my luggage and it was basically useless.

>>6653008
>>6652178
I just wanted to pop in here and say FUCK YEA SWEET JP WIG!
That movie needs more love.
Please, continue on with your thread at hand.

>>6653403

Sorry anon, I know you're grieving over your wig, but I think she picked the right colour.

>>6653403
Those bare wefts... I know nothing of this drama, but damn.

>>6653403
>>6653409
I don't want to deny your bad experience, but this just doesn't seem right. Either way, I'm sorry for your loss :<

>>6653416
Monitors can distort colors, and anon is saying that it's cooler/more purple in person. That aside, though, it looks like a really bad wig. Definitely not worth $150.

>>6653417

I know it's just asking for trouble, but sure would be handy if Sonteen popped in to address this.

>>6652897
On a $150 payment, Paypal takes $4.78.
http://thefeecalculator.com

Anytime someone asks you to send a gift payment, decline and offer to pay the Paypal fees. If they refuse, run. I've been burned by several artists before and refuse to send gift payments anymore, period.

>>6653427
YES IT WOULD.

>>6653416
Every picture of this character she has grey hair, it can range from dark to light. Look at the statue here >>6653186

>>6653419
Yeah, the colors are off. It was more like this color. But it had purple undertones.

>>6653428
Duly noted, trust me. My husband said, "babe this is a hard lesson to learn." Trust me...I won't forget.

Thank you OP for making this thread. It was by pure chance I saw it and noticed the person in the picture. Man, I nearly lost it.

Again, sorry about my phone. The driver installed, but the phone itself is damaged and the computer cannot read it, no matter what I do. =c

>>6653403
Holy shit that is so messy and horrid oh my god D:
I would be angry too

>>6653427
What could she say? She had a month to do this wig and I paid extra for "rush order" since the Con was July 1st. I even offered to pay more $$ to get the fastest shipping available so the wig she purchased would get to her faster. I even offered more money, encase she needed it. I even gave her a tip.

I never annoyed her, allowing her to work in piece on the wig and if she really couldn't do it in time. She should have turned me down outright. But she didn't, she took my money and scammed me basically.

She KNEW what she did, because she high-tailed it out of the lobby with her friend. She was nervous as hell and ignored my phone calls afterwards.

I never said a bad thing about her or harassed her. This is the firsttime, how many year later I'm warning people about this wig commissioner.

She offered to refund me shipping, because I picked it up from her instead. But, that was just like a spit in the face. The best thing I could do was say, "This was $150.00 lesson learned."

>>6652888
You can still do a chargeback through your bank with "gift" payments

>>6653453
I paid that much for a wig once and got nothing at all, though I can't say your experience is much better. Sorry to hear it, anon.

Website/C.com gallery:
http://red-cluster.deviantart.com/

Character commissioned : Nurse Joy from Pokemon (wig)

Timeline (how long your order took to process): April 1st, 2011 - 07/07/11. It was suppose to be here before the 6th.

Pros:

The only part I really like about my wig are the front portion of the bangs. I couldn't have asked for better. But as a whole process of commissioning through her, it was just a headache after headache. No other pros about it. She did over night the wig, with a tracking number. And she did ship the wig with a wig head.

Cons:

At first she seemed really quick to respond to any questions. The communication was great in the beginning. The only time though that I noticed to seem to get responses was when I prodded her over a note on DA. Things had slowed down. I had choose her because of word-of-mouth through a friend to do this commission. But I made her promise to do several things with this commission: 1. keep me updated once progress was made 2. take progress pics. Neither was done. Each time I poked her on DA to see how things were going, she always had some kind of excuse. Either she was too busy with wig commissions or conventions. I got sick of it. One note got kind of nasty to get the point across that this wig was promised to be by July, before my convention. Two weeks ago, she claimed that it was 2-3rds done after she threatened me to take my refund for my wig. I just wanted the wig. I've had so many issues with finding a commissioner that was able to handle this wig. She said that was fine so she will continue to work on it. Then last week, I saw her post about AX on DA. I noted her again due to that I still have not seen any progress pics or received anything from her on her end. She claimed that she sent it out on last Wednesday via priority mail.

con>>

>>6653453
>>6653477

Yeah, I believe you can call your CC company and get a chargeback if this wasn't too long ago.

>>6653483
It is still not here. I'm really upset right now. I have little faith that I'll get my wig on time for this con, and if I'll even get this wig at all. I've been waiting patiently since April 1st for my commission. If you are that too busy to do a commission, then why commission at all? Leave the excuses out of your business and just do your job like you were hired to do. Just take precautions if you approach her to do a commission for you.

Edited 7/7/11
Final Grade: D+
This is for the lack of correspondence, deadline that was missed by a day and a half and for breaking promises of not updating me with progress pictures throughout the entire process. This commissioner is too busy with life and yet she still takes on commissions. Just be cautious if approached by her. She does claim she is stopping commissions in September for good because of the "little pay" she gets for doing such.

Edit:

Update - she noted me on DA, after threatening for a refund. She claims that she's going to over night it and it should be here by noon tomorrow. I still doubt I'll see this wig.

Final Edit:

The wig came today. She had expressed mailed it. She expected me to pay for shipping on all the hassle I had to deal with. She barely met the deadline. She was too busy all the time to respond or work on my wig, when she had it since April. She did ship it with a wig head, thankfully. I am glad that she didn't even question not too.

As for the quality of the wig's grade:

I would give it an C. She had stubbed the back of the wig for the loops; but did not cover or closed them off. I will have to make something to go over them. It's pretty hideous other wise. The color is a bit darker then I originally wanted. There's a lot of uneven-ness throughout the side bangs. I will be trimming up those later my self.

>>6653477
>>6653481
>>6653486
Thank you all for your kind words, seriously. =)

Sadly this was for AX 2011, so its long over due. I tried to help on what I could do via paypal, they said I would have to bite the bullet for this one. But, this is great to know for the future. I cross my fingers that never happens again and if it does, that I can get my CC to do a chargeback.

>>6653483
Whoa...she screwed over this person too during the same time. Thank you for that post anon!

>>6653487
>>6653483
Source: http://www.cosplay.com/showthread.php?p=4031841#post4031841

chargebacks usually have a 6 month window

>>6653500
This was commissioned 2011, around the same time >>6653499 this was going on as well. I think the only reason why I got my wig, is because I went to the hotel she was staying at and picked it up.

>>6653490

Just a quick note, using your bank to do a chargeback runs the risk of getting you blacklisted from paypal.

Paypal will be out of pocket if this Sonteen person has already closed her account, plus paypal now wonders if the next time you pay something you actually mean it or if you'll do another chargeback, so it's likely they will blacklist you.

(I have to admit I don't have experience with this though -- I rely on paypal to buy a lot of stuff so I'm too scared to risk trying this even though I could re-sign up with a different credit card)

>>6653499

is this that wig? yikes.
Though I'm not sure it is cause they said this isn't the first one.

>>6653635
forgot link:
http://new.cosplaylab.com/costumes/details.asp?costumeid=218812

>>6652888
Photo?

>>6653647
read the thread, they were posted

its funny how in past threads where people were praising her work she would always happen to be around to see it and post in the thread...
yet now she is nowhere to be found...hm

I think the problem with cosplay commissioners is that most of them are amateur hobbyist looking to pay for a way to pay for their hobby and not professionals. They have no real business sense, and do not really have the facilities or time to properly manage a decent business. They usually have a full-time job and/or school, and commissions are just a thing they do on the side.

I know a lot of people who have tried and failed when they got in over their head, myself included. It's not hard to do if you start out strong and do good work, because when the ball gets rolling you have a lot of customers and for most people they don't have the experience to know when to stop or say no.

I ended up taking on too much work, getting behind by one order and then it all spiralled out of control. When people do chargebacks you end up in the negative for money, and can't afford to send out other wigs because you're out materials. Late deadlines mean express shipping which means more money out of pocket. Before I knew it I was $3000 in debt with a lot of disappointed customers, and so screwed financially afterwards it took me a long time to pay them back.

It's really a stressful, overwhelming experience for most people and I'd say 90% of cosplayers are not equipped or experienced enough to handle it. Sonteen probably ran into the same thing, and learned her lesson the hard way too. The best thing you can do is quit while you're ahead- which at least she did. Some people like Limebarb just keep going forever.

>mfw all the tripfags and namefags try to deny a crap job from one of their own

>>6653868
this. seriously, stop it. the wig looks like shit. i'd cry too if i spent money on this.

>>6653403
I would've cried if I saw this also. That's $150 down the drain, you should've seriously considered a dispute. Anyone defending this garbage needs a reality check.

For wigs, I ended up starting to do them on my own after seeing what monstrosities can be made with even the "best". I'm too ridiculously OCD, so I ended up making my own wigs.

If you ever reconsider cosplaying Viletta, you should try to look up tutorials of ponytail-style wigs (Kukkii-san has one iirc). There's other cosplay commissioners out there that wouldn't fuck you over this bad, I'm thankful for your honesty.

>>6653490
I don't know about it being too late, I once had a wig commissioned for a convention in 2010 and I got a refund in late 2012 after following her on tumblr and sending her a few asks.
The wig kept getting delayed and at one point we agreed on doing an at-con-pickup. She avoided me the entire convention and never answered her phone. She promised me a refund afterwards but ended up unfriending me on facebook and not responding to my messages. I don't know what changed her mind when I decided to message her years later but she gave me my money back. It's worth a shot.

>>6653766
I honestly think butthurt anon was Sonteen posting anon. That anon seemed to have a pretty thorough knowledge of her projects and took Viletta anon's initial complaint quite personally.

So what is this thread about?

Here's a JP cosplay with real hair. The cosplayer never uses wigs, but at least knows what he's doing.

>>6654168
You're saying the angry anon is just Sonteen calling herself out and even went as far as to post a fake order screen.

If for the love of bob you posted this to try to defend sonteen, all you're doing is just adding to the fire. Just STFU and let the drama run its course.

>>6654213
No, I meant the butthurt no-reading-comprehension anon. This one:
>>6652902
>>6652943
>>6652977

Viletta anon has a perfectly good reason to be mad, this anon is flipping out over something they're supposedly not even involved in.

>>6654206
I remember him at AX, he's pretty cool looking.

>btw who the fuck cares about sonteen give it up you guys.

>>6654224
Do anons not know how to read anymore? This thread seriously had a lot of confusion.

>>6653864
I feel sorry for those that experience this, but what Sonteen did was kinda fucked up. Honestly I'd only dish out the dollars for God Saves the Queen stuff, pic related. Only problem is that slots for commissions get filled fast (you have to wait a year or more) and are obviously very expensive.

>>6653864
Ouch

>>6653403
Jesus christ that is a monstrosity. There is no excuse for that shit. It looks like she tried to make it the morning she gave it to you.

>>6654458
Yeah, I thought as much too. Because, I had wanted to pick the wig up early in the morning, but I had to wait until much later. Which was odd to me, because if the wig is ready....and all I want to do is pick it up, why the delay.

>>6654056
Interesting. I could only wish. I mean, I couldn't wear the thing. Funny enough, the front manager at the hotel she stayed at. Saw the whole thing, his brother is a professional FX makeup/costume designer and he called him up to see if his shop was open to help me out. The guy took pictures and sent his brother and the guy said, "That thing is beyond saving, you need an entirely new wig". I even went to Adra wigs in the vendor section of the con...but grey was all sold out.

>>6654224
I'm pretty sure she saw this thread. She lurks here often enough. Especially in the Cosplay hookup/meetup threads. What can she say, I was very nice to her and professional on my end of this exchange. *sigh* Maybe she will have a change of heart and refund me half at the least.

>>6654778
Ugh I hope sonteen sees this and is embarrassed enough by her shitty actions/wig to give you your money back. She really fucked that wig up.

Wish I could say any of this surprised me, but my experiences with sonteen have been that she's bad at time management and always dropping out of events and not able to finish things in time for even her own personal stuff with friends. Why would a commisson be any different in that way?

I was waiting for this day.

Any other commissions getting screwed up from sonteen?

>>6655635
Can't say botch but there's one that went off flawlessly. Must have been a fluke

>>6654206
WOW

He is stunningly hot with that hair.

I can't imagine anyone near me pulling that off.

So where's this bitch at?

I see her posting all the time

>>6654376
I've never actually commissioned them before, but I've gotten quotes from them on whim and I feel like they're reasonable for their quality. Then again, I haven't asked for a quote in several years so their prices may have gone up. The hobby is growing, though, so that would be expected.

>>6654206
I'd put it in

>>6653403

Sorry to hear. My wig from her was finished in the hotel room while I sat in there and waited for it to come out armpit sweat greasy and still sheading :)

>>6654206
this is just flawless.

I thought it was supposed to be like this

>>6655730
>Obvious guilt is obvious

I wish she would come in here.

>>6655784
Which Con was it if you don't mind me asking? This is Viletta-anon

>>6652888
I have a story as well... I've held back posting about it because I didn't know if it was just a one-time thing.

But now I'm motivated. Its really similar to yours, actually.

>decide to commission red-cluster/sonteen
>commission it way in advance, like 5 months in advance
>my friends know her so I am more trusting
>her wigs look great, not worried
>begin to worry when she doesn't ask for my head measurements, says she can 'guess based off my picture'
>give them to her anyway
>3 months go by, only got a couple messages from her
>that's okay, I gave her plenty of time, I'm sure she's just spacing out the work on it
>2 months until the con
>hey there sonteen is my wig finished? I haven't seen any pictures
>she goes OH I was working on it last week I'll send you a pic
>takes her a week to send me a picture
>it looks fine from the picture, I'm mostly happy
>say that the bangs don't look quite right, could you fix them?
>yeah sure!
>1 month until the con, my deadline is in 2 days
>Hey... have you shipped the wig yet?
>OH I was going to ship it yesterday but <insert excuse here>
>Okay...
>She ships it out about 4 weeks before the con
>Okay, fine, whatever I didn't spend over $100 on this so as long as it gets here in time
>Gets to my house a week before the con
>Its in a huge box, excitedly open it
>The wig wasn't even reinforced in the box, no padding
>It was just taped to another smaller box inside it
>It had fallen over
>Put it on wig stand
>Manage to fix the parts that got damaged, looks okay
>I'm not sure what to think of it
>She didn't fix the bangs like I asked
>I put it on
>It doesn't fit right
> The bangs are too short
>The ponytail is unnecessary heavy, stuffed with god knows what, so it falls off my head
>Wig clips and pins don't help
>She teased the FUCK out of the back of the hair
>Ratty mess underneath, the top which was unteased barely covers it (i.e. the ratty hair was poking through)
>The ponytail is uneven, completely unfixable

>>6656237
Damn this got long, sorry guys

Continued

>Ponytail covered in dried glue
>How the fuck do I even fix this
>The hair that frames the side of my face is coated in thick amounts of got2be hairspray, poking me in the face and not sitting right at ALL
>Overall generally just looks BAD on me
>It looks okay on the wig head, which is what the picture she sent me was of (it on a wig head)
>But when I put it on, it looks HORRIBLE
>Makes me question if she tried it on to make sure it was comfortable and even wearable

>Think about messaging her but get backed up on con prep, I forget

>Get to the con
>Takes me and 3 friends 20 minutes to get the wig to actually stay on my head
>I should mention the character's hair isn't insane spikes or huge ponytails, this wig should not be heavy
>Finally get it on
>Only wear the costume which I slaved over for 3 months for 2 hours because the wig hurts to wear
>I have to hold my body in a certain position to keep the wig from slipping or poking my eyes
>Go back to the hotel room, have 2 friends help me remove all the bobby pins
>I used 21 pins to secure it. 21.
>Just put it on the wig form and decide fuck it lets just drink and have fun and forget about it
>At the end of the con I realize the wig got REALLY messed up by me just wearing it 2 hours
>Spend a day trying to fix it
>Nope

I haven't contacted her about it. I'm not sure I want to. I'm ashamed I wasn't more adamant on her sticking to the deadline and requesting more pictures. I could've done a dispute but it didn't cost that much in the long run and now its too late.

I'm planning on harvesting wefts from it and just buying my own wig and styling it.

Lesson? Just learn to do it yourself, don't trust other people no matter how 'good' their portfolio is. My impression is that she puts in the effort for her wigs and her friends', but skimps on anything else.

>>6654376
I can vouch for Cathy, her work is amazing. She's sweet and very attentive to her customers. She only does the best work possible which is why she charges a BUTTLOAD of money. So obviously that scares a lot of people away, but she doesn't cheapen herself.

Polite sage for semi-off topic

>>6656237
I just realized some of the timeline stuff is confusing here, this happened like a year ago so I'm fuzzy on it. I'd have to dig through my email archives to find the actual dates.

But the bottom line is she was not very communicative (then again I wasn't pressing her or messaging her every week, but I also never got a message from her without my having to contact her first). And she passed the deadline, which I thought would be okay because I set my deadline a month in advance of the con, but the wig did not arrive at my house until uncomfortably close to the con.

>>6656237
You gave her 5 months and she STILL messed it up? Paid subpar quality works is an embarrassment.

>>6656273
Yeah, I thought I was being smart and commissioning way in advance... I got too laid back about it though, maybe I should've been a little more strict. I wanted plenty of time in case the wig wasn't right so I could get a refund/new wig.

I don't have anything against her as a person though, since I don't actually know her, but I can't say I like her business sense that much at all.

>>6656280
You're a sweetheart for being so forgiving of someone who does not even deserve it. Honestly I think her shit tier work ethic speaks about her as a person. She has no pride in her work and is okay with fucking people over. I don't know she did this to people but I sure as hell have a lot less respect for her work now. Also good for you that you don't walk around trying to start shit. I'd be so damn passive aggressive if someone pulled this junk on me.

>>6655639
If that person did get an amazing wig, would we chalk it up to favoritism or luck?

>>6656250
>I haven't contacted her about it. I'm not sure I want to. I'm ashamed I wasn't more adamant on her sticking to the deadline and requesting more pictures. I could've done a dispute but it didn't cost that much in the long run and now its too late.

But you're gunna greentext a whole story on 4chan saying her work is not worth the money and you didn't even ask for progress/express concerns? Ok.

>>6653427
>>6653453
She could give us her side of the story. This is a bunch of one sided arguments. Pictures of a ratty wig, with no proof that it CAME from Sonteen to begin with. And a bunch of other complaints with no photographic evidence of a nasty wig, NOR proof that she styled them.

I'm sorry for anyone's losses if they got cheated out, but until she comes in here to share her side of the story or someone gives us proof that these problemed commissions came from her, I can't believe it.

Lol still no sign of her.

Interesting how she disappears when all this is being uncovered

>>6656457
Why don't you tell your little friend to come in here and defend herself then

>>6656463
If she wants to come in here and defend herself that's her choice. Otherwise, you'll have to sit here and find other ways to complain about someone.

>>6656457
If their stories were baseless I would expect her to come in here and blast them down, but her silence is speaking volumes imo

if this shit is true
what can she possibly say to placate them except "heres your money back for my shite work"

>>6656475
It's /cgl/ where everything is taken with a grain of salt, and the sand is only vagina deep. You'll have to excuse me if I rarely believe any anonymous story without some pics. Otherwise, GTFO, as the saying goes.

>>6656457
>no proof that it CAME from Sonteen
Did you not see the paypal invoice screencap?

>>6656486
A screen cap which proves a payment was made for nothing in specific. Show me a statement that says she was commissioned for a wig that was for Villeta. Show me a box with a shipping label on it. Give me something that proves without a shadow of a doubt that sonteen made the wig in question beyond someone's statement and photos of a bad wig.

>>6656475
She works during the day so she's not going to rush in here and defend herself.

I went through this thread and it's very hard to believe that this poster had the same paypal cap and wig connected. where's the various pm's and emails? Pictures of progress from sonteen? nothing but loosely based "caps" from a shitty cellphone

>>6656496
Why would someone give her $150 for nothing? She commissions wigs, you have to be an idiot to think it could be for anything other than a wig.

>>6656508
>>6656496
Basically what I was gonna say, anon

>>6656508
Don't forget the good wig job that has been floating around. If that thing gets posted it would be weird that she would do a steller job on one wig then drop the ball hard on the second

>>6656508
Yes she commissions wigs. And that statement does not mention nor list anything about the wig in specific. For all I know, the wig may have been styled by the patron and then commissioned Sonteen for a wig after the fact that her initial wig failed. Now for whatever reason she has to shame Sonteen is beyond me, but that's just an assumption.

Back to the facts:
>A receipt that has no direct claim to what it is for beyond a wig commission. No statement, explanation, or note towards a specific wig styling or for a Viletta wig.
>Photos of a horribly styled wig.

This is all we have to go on. There's nothing here that actually proves, without a shadow of a doubt, that the wig shown was styled by Sonteen. No box with a return address, no shipping labels. Nothing. So unless she comes in here to say that "Yes, I styled this wig, it was poorly done, etc." There's nothing to believe here.

>>6656518
need some more straw to grasp?

>>6656518
Stop white knighting your buddy you sack of shit. You don't expect that sort of evidence from anyone else, and no one has asked for more from anyone before.

We have tons of threads about bad commissioners and this is more proof than we usually get, and now you're demanding wig boxes and emails from years ago? If Sonteen wants to proclaim herself INNOCENT she can come in here, but saying nothing doesn't prove shit especially when there IS evidence that a transaction happened.

>>6656518
This was years ago. Besides that, Anon picked up the wig in person, there wouldn't be any shipping labels for that.

>>6656518
and since when does a guilty party need to admit they fucked up to be proven guilty? that seems ludicrous and backwards to me.

PERSON HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG UNTIL THEY ADMIT THEY HAVE DONE WRONG.

Yeah, sure gives grounds to admit their wrongdoing when keeping their mouth shut means innocence.

>>6656518
This is some of the dumbest shit I've seen in a while.

dat leap in logic

dat everything

>>6656533
You seriously expected more from a tripfag?

>>6652888
I have one question, I'm not on anyone's side but just wanted a question answered. You say you called her and she avoided you but before that she contacted you saying she would re-fund the $30. How did she contact you? I assume via email?

Best thread on /cgl/ right now.

>>6656523
Nah, I've got a hold of all of the straws you're all leaving around.

>>6656525
So you've proved a transaction happened. Prove what it was for.

>>6656528
That's one less thing you can use to prove then

>>6656530
No one here can prove otherwise.

>>6656533
You should read the rest of this thread then! It's pretty damn dumb!

>>6656538
And to think I was expecting more from you guys, heh.

>>6656513
>>6656389
I think these points are being ignored simply because they don't deal with the current situation and prove nothing

>>6656544
I used to think you were cool, I have now learned otherwise.

someone drop a link of this thread to her DA account

or better send it to all the people who have commissioned her (she's got them all listed on her DA lul)

>>6656544
Oh I have been, your posts take the cake in stupidity

Please keep attempting to whiteknight your 100% innocent bff

>no one can prove otherwise

You completely missed the point of anon's post, btw

>>6656550
Agreed..
Guess they need a photo of the wig being handed to them by Sonteen

>>6656550
>>6656557
If your view of me has changed because of /cgl/ causing drama and me arguing with them, then nothing of value has been lost. Sorry, champ.

>>6656559
It's not the fact you're arguing, it's that you are completely blinded by your friendship with this person and shutting down a valid discussion with physical evidence based on your own self interest.

The least you could do is GTFO, and let Sonteen handle this herself if she's got nothing to worry about.

>>6656563
Blinded would be me saying that she could never do no wrong, and that she's an innocent angel. I'm totally open to the idea that I am wrong and this could be a legit thing. But I've not been proven otherwise. So tough tits.

And if you want to call this thread a discussion, you might as well stop trying to sell it to me, 'cause I ain't buying it.

>>6656559
>>6656544
>>6656518

THIS JUST IN
ONLY CRIMES YOU ADMIT TO MAKE YOU GUILTY

>>6656567
>you might as well stop trying to sell it to me, 'cause I ain't buying it
Oh Maguma, you're so clever. Fuck me in the ass~

>>6656567
Then get the fuck out.

>>6656571
I'll think about it.

This whole thread is why we can't have nice things. Fuck all of you petty women.

>>6656576
shhhh Maguma

>>6656576
>paying $$ for wig
>getting a trainwreck in return
>being upset
>petty

u wot m8

>>6656570
brb committing every crime I can think of

>>6656553
>(she's got them all listed on her DA lul)

Would OP happen to be listed? Since we can't seem to prove any of this is true otherwise?

>>6656590
nah this is just her list of clients for march-june

she didn't do client lists in the past, but she shut her wig making bizz down months(?) after the villeta nu wig fiasco
Seems like she bit off more than she could chew and jumped ship after she fucked some people over

how considerate of her

>>6656597
No, she jumped ship after the commissionee of the JP wig (OP picture) ruined it and then blamed her.

>>6656601
This is why I require my clients to sign off on shit I make and they receive, whether by mail or in person. It is a CYA measure that ensures the person received what they paid for in perfect condition. Beyond that, they are responsible for wear and care of it.

>>6656601
Which looks amazing...so what happened between the two jobs?

>>6656626
It really just is too much on her plate. Like >>6655546, I'm not surprised by any of this. Every single con she says she won't overload her plate but then she does anyway, and everything she makes suffers for it.

If this is what it takes for her to get a wakeup-call, then so be it. I wish she would learn her lesson for both her own sake and those around her, but I really think at this rate, she never will.

The other thing that gets me is that some people cannot understand that a commissioner's work can be inconsistent and still be made by them. Like some have been saying, when you bite off more than you can chew, your work suffers. Not all of it, but your work becomes inconsistent which means some pieces are amazing and others look like crap.

This reminds me of how Arda wigs works. Some people repeatedly get red-carpet treatment and never have a problem with the service or the products, others are not so lucky and get shit on with product quality, service, or sometimes both. Sadly, a lot of people don't realize that neither the people who've had perfect experiences and those with bad experiences are necessarily wrong. What it means is that their service is inconsistent, which can go back to "biting off more than you can chew".

I can totally, feasibly see both the OP and that Villeta wig being created by her given that she's been known to overbook and try to do too much.

>>6656662
As an ex-wig commissioner I can agree with this. I did a lot of great work, and if the timing was bad- a lot of mediocre work. I probably bombed one or two wigs as well. Sonteen shows all the signs of being someone who was at the end of her commission rope and struggling, because I did that all too before finally ditching the business because I couldn't handle it anymore.

>poor communication because too busy/intimidated/behind schedule
>barely meeting deadlines because schedule is overburdened
>lots of last minute work, some turns out great and some doesn't
>handing off a wig and praying to god the person is satisfied and hoping for the best when you know it's not great

There's a reason she shut her business down. Not only is it hard as fuck to do, but even the customers you do good with can be real assholes and drag your name through the dirt. I refunded a bunch of people and apologized when I realized I was shutting down and they never revoked their bad reviews and still talk trash to this day.

>mfw I just waded through this horseshit and found Maguma seriously defending that ratty ass wig just because a tripfriend made it

idc if she was stressed, or overworked, or whatever. There are plenty of professional ways to go about handling this situation rather than her running off with someone's $150 and handing them her shittiest work that's so shitty not even she wanted to stick around to see the customer's reaction to it.

>>6656662
It's not so much that Arda was inconsistent rather than incompetent.
I can say, however, that they've improved significantly since I've bought wigs from them.

The trouble with my experience is that when I bought these wigs their descriptions were not a true match to some of their wigs, and this is also before they put out a warning that their wigs didn't properly fit smaller heads.
Obviously they're better about describing their wigs and photographing better these days since they've learned their lessons from customer complaints, but these issues were due to incompetence and not inconsistency. Just pointing that out.

>>6656839
My biggest beef with Arda is that despite supposedly a wig company by cosplays for cosplayers, they have almost no fucking stock pictures for their wigs. Even fantasysheep has more stock photos than they do.

>>6656839
>I can say, however, that they've improved significantly since I've bought wigs from them.

Oh I've forgot to mention that the wigs that I bought that I've had complaints about hardly nobody ever buys now either because of those updated descriptions.
Mainly because they're actually very un-versatile wigs that can't be styled unless you go out of your way to modify them.

>>6656846
They do need some more sock pictures. But I find the best resource to be the customer gallery because you can actually see what some of those wigs look like worn, in different colors, and in con lighting. I recommend taking a peek at those. It's changed my mind about a lot of their wigs.

>>6656813
This. When you're running your own business like this, whether it be baby-sitting, walking people's dogs or cosplay commissions, your reputation is everything. I don't see why someone would risk their reputation by providing sub-par products and service. If she had told anon that she was too busy to do it, it sounds like anon would have understood and been fine with it. Instead, she provided a shitty wig, anon could have called her out earlier and people would have been much less likely to commission her in the future.

>>6656856
Oh I know the customer gallery is great, but my beef is more of pictures of the wigs from different angles you might not get from worn photos (back, sides, pictures of the insides/skintops etc especially). Plus I don't think all colors/styles have worn pictures yet?

>>6656839
My problem with them is the 2 times I ordered wigs from them, I got the old first gen wigs when they were advertising the 2nd gen wigs that had fixed all the problems e.g. old wigs didn't have certain tops or rattier old fiber. I don't think that was fair at all. If they wanted to sell of older versions of wigs, fine, put a fucking 5% discount on them, they'd still sell. But when you're advertising 1 product and sending a mixture of either the new ones or old ones, it's not fair at all. The wig I got at a con wasn't as much of a problem because I could see it and handle it.

>>6656846

I find the customer gallery to be a hundred times more helpful than stock pictures, because you can guess at how the light quality effects color, length on certain types of faces, etc. Way more helpful than twelve shots on the same missized wig head in mystery lighting

>>6656567
>But I've not been proven otherwise.

You mean except the pictures of the shitty job she did on the wigs. lawl. Get out, retard.

lel this thread

>anon posts a paypal receipt with sonteen, posts pics of botched wig
>THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE TRANSACTION WAS FOR THAT WIG
>points out that the wig was picked up at the hotel
>SHOW SHIPPING RECEIPTS PLS
>transaction was 2 years ago
>SHOW EMAILS/MESSAGES/EVERYTHING!!

>>6656457
>>6656496
Uh, really? That wig was commissioned for AX 2011 Los Angeles. She attended that Con as well and I picked up the wig from her at her hotel. You can clearly see that the pictures are on my very old phone.

Read the it>>6653108
It says WIG COMMISSION.

>>6656496
How can I show shipping. I picked it up from her DIRECTLY at the hotel she was saying at. You can see, in the background the front desk manager and on lookers. This was a Anniversary trip, only me and my husband attended. We didn't have friends. So the back ground people are people that SAW the whole thing unfold in the lobby.

Just so you know, pictures save the date and time it was created. I posted that for you too. You really going to deny it now?

>>6656540
She mentioned she would refund the $30 to me when we spoke on the phone, because I was coming to pick up the wig from her directly.

I also saw her posting in threads that she was attending AX and I said. Hey! You didn't mention you would be attending this Con. Maybe it would be better to pick it up from you, so it doesn't get damaged or lost in the mail. We agreed. Then smoothed out the pick up arrangements when I was at my hotel. She offered to refund me the $30 bucks. I told her, "No anon, keep it as a tip. I bet the wig looks amazing." Little did I know....it was a piece of shit.

>>6657321
Anon, just let them be shitty. They won't be happy unless you travel back in time and film Sonteen handing the wig over to you while explicitly saying she botched it.

>>6657349
Never look gift horse in the mouth.

>>6657321
>>6657349
Ignore that idiot tripfag, anon. Honestly he's just badgering you because he is trying and failing at whiteknighting his tripfriend

>>6657353
>They won't be happy unless you travel back in time and film Sonteen handing the wig over to you while explicitly saying she botched it.
This

>>6657376
I like supporting talented artists and I figured she is young and could use the extra $30 bucks more than me. But all of this, came back to slap me in the face.

>>6657353
Yeah, I thought after how many years and two moves. That I would still even have the amount of evidence I do. But, even that isn't good enough for some people.

I'm sure she's seen this thread because she lurks often enough. What can she say, I never did anything wrong. She knows what she did and she should feel bad.

>>6657126
I would tend to agree, but still Arda shouldn't have to depend on a gallery of customer images. It's nice to have it there, but they should have stock photos of each (or at least most) of the wigs in each style and color. It's really lazy..and imo reflects poorly on the company that they have so few stock images posted.

Also I despise how they put the wigs on the heads - the bangs especially always look super wonky and unappealing. If I was new to the cosplay community and didn't know anything about the company I wouldn't dare purchase anything from them based off of the images they have listed.

I've also had some bad experiences with the actual wigs, but even before that these things peeved me.

>>6657477
What bad experiences? I usually only see people sucking Arda's dick, so I'm curious (especially since I have a relatively large order on hold from them, until my backordered wefts come in).

>>6657559
not that anon, but the only real bad experience I had was the lace on a lacefront just ripping like crazy when I touched it... it was an easy fix, but disappointing.

I've a few friends that have had wefts fall out.

>>6657321
Ignore him, Maguma is the biggest brown-noser on here. If a tripfag raped/murdered/stole from someone, he would defend them to the death just to get on their good side.

>>6657559
I'm an anon from earlier and I've had experiences with both their Eowyn and Jeannie (sp?) wigs.

The first one I ever bought was a baby blue Jeannie wig. This was before they added the note about having to modify the wig yourself for it to fit correctly. I got the wig and it just wasn't good. I could see the netting where they had pulled the hair back into a ponytail, and the parts on the side of the wig looked like they had been matted down with extra fiber to cover the wig base. It was very bizarre.
Oh and not to mention the thing didn't fit me, and they gave no measurements so it came as a surprise. The wig is unwearable.

They finally updated the Jeannie and basically warned anyone that if they wanted it and had smaller heads then they would have to modify it. Oh and I've heard the newer gen of this wig is nicer too. But still, it would have been nice at the time to have been compensated for an unusable wig.

Eowyn was another gem I couldn't wear.
I had been looking into a casual, skin top wig that I could wear on the street in NYC. I ordered this wig with the understanding that the top could be parted and styled. What Arda failed to mention was that the bangs were fixed, and looked pretty fake to boot. To my horror whenever I wore this wig without a hat of some sort, everyone could tell it was a wig. Even my dad who is wig-retarded thought it looked silly.

And as before with Jeannie they updated the wig description to mention the bangs issue. Of course it was well after the fact.

It just seems my beef with them could be avoided if they had described their wigs better and properly photographed them to begin with.

>>6657726
I just went to look and I actually don't see anything on the Eowyn page about the bangs being unmovable. Did they remove it again or did they change the wig??

>>6657726
Which version of the Eowyn did you get? There are two to my knowledge, and I have to admit the first one had some... issues, since the skin top didn't extend all the way to the front. They updated the description for it later, and eventually fixed the skin top itself on future versions of the wig (and is pretty nice now), but it was kind of a big issue that the first iteration was described as a full skin top wig, and, well... wasn't.

>>6657726
Oh that sucks. Luckily I'm getting some stuff that's been around long enough to have any possible issues known. Still, they should have refunded you at least $10 for the issues.

>>6657769
>>6657771
Should have specified: I probably got the first gen of this wig. I just know there was a fuss about the bangs being set and not being able to move. This might have changed on their new website because like (>>6657771) said they have a new version of that wig completely.

>>6656839
This is mainly because for the first few years they were a company only 2 people worked for them full time and another worked the cons. About a year ago they actually got a staff.

>>6657559

>>6657477 here. When I was new to cosplay I bought three of their wigs at a con, since the colors looked nice. Arda wouldn't let me remove the wigs from the bags or touch any of the display models, so I didn't quite know what they would be like.

Once I got the wigs home and examined them I was really disappointed. I bought a ferrari, a candy striper, and a claudia. For the ferrari whenever the bangs were combed to the side - even slightly you could see the mesh/cap. The entire hairline was frizzy to the point of being matted and teased in such a way it was visible. The entire thing refused to sit right on my head, nomatter how many bobby pins I used. It looked dumb and to this day I consider it unwearable.

I guess the Claudia was alright, it was a first gen wig so the skin top was sort of bent and wonky, it was also thin in the back, so the wefts were slightly visible.. The bangs were again, matted at the top and the lace/cap was visible if I tried to sweep the bangs to the side. When I tried to comb (gently, just to smooth it, not detangle anything) tons of fibers fell out, it was ridiculous.

The Candy Striper was fine, no problems. Eventually I ordered another candy striper from them, and it took three weeks to arrive (there were no sales/promotions going on, nor were they away) and came tangled. The wig was wrapped in a sheet of plastic that was taped on the side, some of the tape sticking to the wig. They refused to take responsibility for packaging errors and told me to finger comb the tangles.

I guess some of their wigs are alright now? I wouldn't risk buying from them again.

>>6657890
>Arda wouldn't let me remove the wigs from the bags or touch any of the display models, so I didn't quite know what they would be like.

That seems sorta odd. Every time I've gone to their booth they've let me touch away. Just weren't aloud to try them on.

>>6657924
*allowed

>>6657924
>When I was new to cosplay

If anon started cosplaying around the time Arda started attending conventions, I'm actually not surprised if they didn't let them touch the wigs. I seem to recall this being the case when I bought my first Ardas from their booth a few years ago at AX.

>>6656601
I thought that was mixed-up shit. The JP wig has nothing to do with Sonteen, it's the Viletta wig that Sonteen did fuck up and fail to properly do.

>>6656760
Because shitty communication and running off from a crap job is justifiable. Holy fuck, what happened to professionalism? I've seen good commissioners make weird-looking wigs that didn't look right, but be professional at least if the client isn't happy.

>>6657321
lol, at this rate you'll need to show everyone your non-existent JP wig, find the witnesses, and get security camera footage. Don't bother with this bullshit, you had every right to call Sonteen out.

>>6657941
>nothing to do
Trust me, that story is absolutely true. But that doesn't make up for the other crap in this thread.

>>6657941
Wait ...what? The JP wig is the picture in OP, wtf are you talking about like it doesn't exist?

>>6657953
So there are 2 JP wigs, apparently. The one in the picture, which there are no problems with, and a "phantom" JP wig that some anon keeps bringing up as a case against sonteen. Apparently it was another botched commission, but we don't have as many details on that story as we do the Viletta one or those coscom reviews.

>>6657959
No, there was one JP wig. The one in the picture. When she delivered it to the client he threw a fit for some reason and ended up destroying it and then blaming her for it. And it was that situation which caused her to close commissions.

>>6657953
>>6657959
>>6657962
Hold on, the JP wig had something to do with the Sonteen shit? I'm utterly confused right now, since there's the Viletta wig drama going on too.

>>6657982
People can't fucking read.

The JP wig is the situation I described >>6657962 (which someone brought up for some reason >>6657941). The Viletta wig I have no fucking clue about. That's a totally seperate customer/situation afaik.

>>6657982
1. Sonteen makes JP wig, JP wig looks great, dude she made it for is an idiot and wrecks it
2. Sonteen makes Viletta wig, it is a piece of shit

This isn't that hard, guys.

>>6657996
this.

holy shit why are you all so illiterate

>>6657999
Sorry, I mixed up the part where someone thought the Viletta wig and the JP wig people were the same person.

...Or are they?

>>6658013
see
>>6657996

are you the dumbest fucker alive

>>6657941
I didn't make this thread, I have nothing to do with the JP wig. The only wig I'm talking about is the one I comissioned from her and that is Viletta Nu. I think you're confusing me with the anon who was saying, I was the guy/girl who comissioned the JP wig from and got messed up. Not that anon

>>6656457
shut the fuck up, matt. like you even know shit at all.

>>6658013
Why in hell would I commission her again?!?! 2011 I commissioned a Viletta Nu wig from her and wasted $150.00 basically. No way in hell, I would go back for round two. Sorry, not the same person. Not in a million years.

Plus, I have no idea about this person who commissioned the JP or the drama around that. I don't follow that sort of stuff. All I have is my experience and that is it.

>>6657588

1000000000% Correct

>>6658043
That anon is either trolling or a retard, don't bother.

>>6658050
Obviously I am dead serious.

So. Very. Serious.

>>6652178

What an unfortunate face...poor girl.

>>6658055
I dunno, I'd just say it's not feminine. She's not bad looking despite.

Someone needs to cap this thread and save this shit for the next commission horror stories thread. (I am on my phone)

>>6656544
I will get so mic drop happy up in this bitch, so help me.

Mag, even our friends fuck up sometimes. It happens, it's being human.
However, it is not your damn place to step in and make up excuses for their own fuck ups, that's their own problem.

I know that you know this shit is true, but you just continue to refuse to believe it and you've always, ALWAYS, gone out of your way to derail and try to bury something down when it has to do with ~*~the famous ones~*~ for brownie points. Stop trying to make their shit into your shit, ain't nobody got time for that.
With that you are doing MORE HARM than actual good. Like you're indirectly encouraging this fuck up to continue and that it's ok to do. NO, IT'S NOT. You're hurting the buyers AND the seller.
A real friend knows when we fuck up and doesn't encourage it with this kind of shit.

Stop that right goddamn now and forever. You used to go on and on about how the community has gone downhill and petty, STOP HELPING IT STAY THERE. Preach something, you better practice it with a leading example. I'm so damn serious. You need to draw the fucking line once in a while and actually stay behind it, ok?

I know Sonteen fairly well and from my experience with her, she has BAD time management...

She has missed almost every single flight she goes on to get to cons...puts on so many projects that she can't finish so literally most of her convention time is spent
>In the hotel room finishing a costume
>Wear that costume for a photoshoot
>return to hotel room to finish next costume
>wear that costume for photoshoot

etc etc...I was scheduled to do a photoshoot with her several years ago and we waited for two hours in the lobby while she finished the costume...she just kept texting us "almost done! almost done! getting ready! on our way!" and we'd just wait...and wait...and wait...

I know a year or two ago she signed up to do World Cosplay Summit? Guess what she had to drop out because she just couldn't get things done in time...

She's a sweet girl who means well but dang she needs to lay off a load or two.

I am sorry if this has been mentioned before, I only read a bit of this thread.

>>6657559
I can't tell if they sell like hotcakes or rarely restock.
I've been keeping an eye on their ferrari on and off for over a year, and have never seen any of the 4-5 colors I could have used (nor many others) in stock.

Slight Arda derail, as I came late to the party. I've had 2 experiences with them, both them of disappointing. The first time was a year or two ago, I had ordered a rose pink Le Tigre or something, and they didn't inform me it was not in stock til AFTER the paypal had gone through. Once I received an alternate pink wig, all along near the crown of the wig the fibers looked like someone had teased the shit out of them, then decided to take a heat gun to it. The wig is unwearable unless you wear some sort of hat :P

Second time and sort of a fuckarow - ordered extensions, magnum, and a ferrari with 3 day shipping. Don't receive the order til 3 weeks later... Paypal went through, never received a confirmation email or an email with a transaction number. About a week goes by, I'm getting pissed - email them, apparently it never went through but the paypal did :P They send out another order immediately. Receive the order about 3 days later. The magnum is satisfying but the Ferrari's hair fibers are crispy and cheap feeling. Apparently though the order DID go through, by contacting them a second time about the transaction number they accidentally sent out another shipment of the same wigs, this time the Ferrari a much nicer quality. So that was a nice silver lining - getting a second batch of wigs for free.

Their customer service seems pretty good, but shipping and overall quality of their wigs is very unpredictable. My friend ordered some wigs the same time I did and received hers in about 3 days without any sort of extra shipping...Luckily, I'm happy with the newer wigs I've received and will most likely be going back in the near future. It's too bad things little things like the errors I had affect my overall opinion on them though.

>>6658128
They don't restock. Ever.

>>6653108
but i thought you were picking up the wig, why is the plus 12 for 'express shipping'? sorry I'm still only about halfway through the thread at this point when I saw this.

>>6658131
They're doing one now, but the sheer volume of it makes me seriously question whether the last one was this century or not.
Seriously, Arda. Focus on yout existing wigs instead of your tacky seasonal bullshit.
(Also loling forever at the fact that none of their ponytail wigs fit on the mannequin head. Who would buy those?)

>>6658112
If she knew time management was one of her weaknesses, why bother taking commissions? Seems like the logical thing to do is to NOT do this.

>>6658155

The problem is they delude themselves into thinking that yes, they can actually take all of it on. They're lying to themselves and don't realize it until it's the point of no return. Sad, but true, don't realize mistakes until it's in worse shape you thought it was going to be.

>>6658065

She looks like a monkey. What's worse is that I couldn't tell she was female until I saw her in girl costumes, which I she apparently doesn't do much of.

I just saw this gem in a Buy and sell group.
Free shipping!!!!!!

>>6658188
she should cosplay Son Goku

>>6658206
yeah wow... i dont even-- AND NO TAKERS YET??

>>6658206
It makes me wonder if this person actually spent that much on it originally and then kicked it around the floor for a while and then decided to sell it for the same price... or what...--I MUST HAVE IT NOW.

>>6658213
I'll fight you for it.

>>6658209

>Not Sun Wukong

>>6658217
Oh hellllll nooo. I saw it first!

>>6656760
>I refunded a bunch of people and apologized when I realized I was shutting down and they never revoked their bad reviews and still talk trash to this day.

A bunch of people or all of them? Nobody's obligated to go easy on you for failing as a business. It's not their problem that you can't get your shit together.

>>6658106
Well said.

Frankly his behavior in this thread has been outright appalling

>SHE'S MY FRIEND AND THEREFORE COMPLETELY INNOCENT UNLESS YOU CAN PROVIDE HER FINGERPRINTS ON THE WIG AND GO BACK IN TIME AND VIDEOTAPE HER GIVING YOU THE WIG

>>6658683
word. realizing why so many people dislike him here.

>>6658106
>ain't nobody got time for that.

LOL

The only thing Maguma suceeded is making Sonteen look 10 times more cowardly.

>>6657349
>$30 commission tip because you thought she did a nice job.
Anon I would make anything for you to the best of my ability. You sound like the commissioner's dream.

>>6658157
>>6658155

Kind of like all of the people that think they can take on ten costumes before con, and oh btw it's in a month. Nothing like having friends holed up in their rooms all con finishing costumes. This I will never understand. But when it's a business and affecting other people, then it's just sad.

>>6658800
Well, that one person gave her 5 months. That's surely enough for anybody. It was only a wig not a full costume.

>>6658808
Yeah, but how many other people did too? Not trying to defend her, just agreeing with the general consensus of time management issues.

>>6657939
This. Back when they first started having booths, they had all the wigs on heads on the tall panels behind the table and had a few on their table. You could look, but not touch. You had no clue what the fibers felt like, how much packing was in a wig, etc. It was annoying as hell. Plus if you said you wanted X wig in a different color than what was on display, you had to estimate how the color would look through the bag. They wouldn't even let me open the bag and peek in, even with them handling the wig and were pretty rude when I asked for a better color estimation sans the glare and slight translucent color from the plastic bag. I presume they changed their behavior at cons now but after buying 3 shitty wigs from them, I don't even bother anymore.

>>6658817
Unless she had hundreds of orders, that's really no excuse. Let's just say she had about 20 orders, can other commissioners here not be able to do that amount in 5 months? While there are picky customers who expect perfection, most just want what they've paid for. The customer gave her plenty of time while she gave them plenty of grief. Plus, she had the nerve to still charge for it. And seeing as she tried to run away from said customer, even she knew it was a crap job.

>>6657890 here

>>6657924
>>6657939
Yeah, it was a few years ago. I wouldn't say they were rude about it, but they were pretty pushy and harsh. I was new to cosplay but I had owned a few wigs so it was pretty irritating not being able to see the inside of the cap, feel the fibers, or judge the thickness ahead of time. I would *not* have purchased the wigs if I had been able to see them up close.

>>6659126
Seems like you had a similar experience, sucks doesn't it?

>>6658739
Thank you. I bet it would have been 100 x better than what I received. I wasn't looking for absolute perfection, just something to wearable at the very least That was my only costume too, I had photo shoots lined up and group shots. She literately ruined my Con and my Husband didn't wear his costume because he didn't want me to feel left out.

I'm kinda scared to commission again because of this.

Still no sign of that commissioner?

Interesting

>>6658131
They have to wait for their factory to turn around the amount of wigs they are restocking. That's why it takes so long. I think one time they even stated on their FB that their factory had to hire new workers just to meet their supply demand

>>6663262
What can she say? She fucked up but she doesn't want to fork any money over. Better to stay silent.

>>6663813

From the point of them ordering, considering the amount of stock they likely order at a time, it can take their manufacturer 10-25 days just to produce their order. Then add shipping on top of that, and their time to sort their inventory and update their webpage.

I'd say the time it takes to prepare and then fully catalogue their order is anywhere from 1.5 to 2 months.

>>6663816
>"what can she say?"
She can say she fucked up?
Hiding and dodging makes one look like a shody commissioner.
If you can't stand by your work, then you shouldn't be doing commissions.

>>6663827
Add in the amount of people that need to leave every two weeks to go to a convention and what jobs need to put aside while they are away and that would be about 2 to 2.5 months turn around. Which is normally the time they restock in

>>6652964

It's almost as if you think that's even worth it.

NO. And futhermore, PP is an asshole and if the suspect or find out they will do horrible things to you and your money.

tumblr: sonteen12
FB: pages/Red-cluster-Wig-Commissions/196231163732453
pages/Red-cluster-sonteen12-Cosplay/228029917294321

There you go.

>>6666804
Just sent an ask, let's see if we get a response

>>6666842
What did you ask? I highly doubt it's going to get published or answered in the least.