/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>6628039
uh no... only the princesses of Japan (HIME for you, stupid westerner!) can pull off the LOLITUR FASHION.

Also, that is just the prettiest dress I ever did see. Obviously would only work on a sweet Japanese Hime though! GO AWAY LOLCOW!

my best friend wants to wear lolita and has big boobs.. like killer boobs. poor girl. I really don't know of any (good) big breasted lolis

>>6628059
In all seriousness 'killer boobs' means shit to us. We need measurements of Bust and then Underbust to tell you how bad off you are. Any lolitas with big boobs usually wear some kind of sports bra or binder to avoid a boob loaf in brand or they get custom sized garments...

Blouses tend to look better than dresses because dresses will form oddly around your boobs and give you boob loaf. Sometimes you can pull off dresses though, but you should NEVER do anything with lacing up the front like that because your boobs will stretch out and it will look awful.

>>6628064
I just know she has a bust of 47'

>>6628067
Yeah that doesn't tell us anything in relation to cup size... we have to have the band size to see how big or small the cup size is (and no, giving us her bra measurement doesn't help either since she's probably fitted incorrectly in the first place). Fully shirred is going to be the way for her to go probably, depending on how small the rest of her body is.

This would suit better, OP.

>>6628067

Her bust is 47 foot around?

>>6628073
of she has torpedo tits that's going to look like a cheesy hentai outfit on her. loool hilarious to me though.

>>6628076
Sadly, the first think I thought when reading that was Tea from Yugioh.

>>6628067
There's a lot of factors to look into.

- Bust measurement
- Underbust measurement. With big boobs, your waist measurement is null and void pretty much. I check to make sure that my underbust size fits within the waist measurement. You want to go a few cm's lower to be on the safe side (about 3cm or 1 inch).
- Cup size is a big consideration too on what can be worn. If your underbust is say, 34" and your bust measurement is 42" you're going to have a hard time finding something that is flattering. (FF size). But you might be able to do skirts and blouses. Custom-sized pieces can work well too from indie brands... especially because blouses available are not really made with large busts in mind.

For the record, I'm a DD (104cm bust, 92 cm underbust) My wardrobe is mostly AP. There's a few tricks you can do to make things look a little more flattering when you have a larger bust, and it's entirely possible to fit into brand. But again, everything is made for tiny cup sizes and small tiny Japanese frames in mind.

You can. Just don't go to a brand name website and think "Well, the dress says 108cm so I can totally wear it! Awesome!" I have a friend who does this and keeps being surprised when it gets here and doesn't look good on her. Yeah, it will fit around, but it doesn't look good.
That's because even if the back has elastic shirring, the front of the bodice is still cut for an A-B cup. So it looks weird and doesn't fit right and doesn't come down far enough in the front.
Custom stuff is your friend :)

>>6628073
To be honest, I think people with about Bs/Cs look better in these kinds of dresses. Too small looks simply strange, too big looks lewd.

I'd just recommend binders.

>>6628073
lolololol yeah if she wants to look like some bar wench. Underbust stuff like that tends to make boobs look bigger rather than smaller.

Every lolita who said that they have large breasts usually forget to mention that they are fat.

Would big boobs look weird in lolita?

>>6628972
As stated, no.

Better response:
- Depends on the style, cut, your cup size.

A babydoll dress on an F cup would look unflattering even if it stretches around to fit (and there's room to spare so it's not overstretched, quite possible even with smaller measurements). But something with a longer bodice, or going with a blouse/skirt combo would look much better. But if it happens to be something you really love, you can wear a belt with it or use a cardigan/bolero to lengthen the look. There are things you can do when you have big boobies.

It depends.

Do you mean big boobs as in "I am a cute girl who happens to have big boobs"? or big boobs as in "I am fat and as a consequence my boobs are also fat"?

If the former, it should be fine. If the latter, do not ever attempt lolita. It isn't for you.

>>6629134
>do not ever attempt lolita. It isn't for you.

Yet, 95%+ of the community is made up of just that.

>>6629134
This is the real question. There are definitely ways for bigger-busted girls to pull off Lolita if they are generally slim elsewhere, like minimizer bras, tailored blouses, certain cuts for JSKs, etc. If she has a 47" bust because she's fat, well, that takes a lot more work. Fat girls can really only pull off Lolita if they have a cute face and an hourglass figure, IMO.

>>6628039
sauce on dress? its beautiful

Ah, this thread is perfect for the question I have!
One of my dream dresses is the second jsk Scent of Rapunzel, the one with the lacey frill around the bust. My bust is 34" and my underbust is 28". Is this dress going to look awful on me, or would it look okay with a sports bra?

someone post examples of lolitas with bigger busts making it work

>>6629627

>>6629627

I love this girl's co-ords, and she does not have a conventional Lolita body shape/size.

>>6629664
>before boobjob

trolling, you're doing it wrong.

>>6629682
That's not big bust, that's just fat.

>>6629509
Ok, I have the same difference (between bust and underbust) except I'm 36/30. You do need a sports bra... and make sure it's the kind that seperates, not the kind that just gives you an instant boob loaf. This bodice is still going to look bad on you... any bodice that divides the bust area up like that is going to look strange. Yes your bust will fit, especially with the sports bra... but the extra flesh is just redistributed, it's still there in the bust, just moved and smushed around.

>>6629682
She's just fat, and she looked awkward and frumpy.

>>6629696
also, in pretty much any brand jsk that's not fully shirred you need to layer something up top to distract/divert attention from your bust, because it's still going to look off in the end.

Now if you found a nice matching cardi/bolero/shrug for the jsk, you'd be fine.

>>6629682
She's not even that large-breasted for her size.

Plus, I don't think someone who needs to buy multiples of brand skirts and dresses and sew them together is doing very well...

>>6629693
She still has a big bust, thus relevent to the thread/anon's question.

>>6629703
god her head and feet are so tiny

>>6629664
She's not especially busty, though, just your beach blonde average girl.

>>6629703
Actually, no. If I were wider in the tummy, I could wear lolita. Because the tops are so often button-ups and tubes. Fat girls have a better chance at the silhouette than those of us with curvaceous figures.

>>6629165
I'm a fat lolita and I know that figure is just as inflated as mine.

>>6629682
>>6629703
I must be the only fat lolita who doesn't cream themself over this girl.

>>6629717
Nah. I appreciate that she owns her size, but other than that, she's nothing super special. Idgi. Lol. I'm a fat girl, too.

I think it works if you're proportionate - i.e. chubby, but then you need to get it custom made probably.

The great thing about lolita is that body type doesn't matter much.

>>6628064

I'm starting out as a trans loli, and my dresses barely have any more room in the chest. I'm actually going to end up having to bind to avoid boob loaf. It's depressing.

>>6629212
>>6629134

It's actually the other way around. The problem with being large chested is that you stick out on top more than at the bottom. If you're fat(within reason) you're at least somewhat proportionate and there are some lolita that really make it work for them. I can't say the same of thin but large chested lolis, unfortunately.

>>6629703
>>6629682
Man, it's so weird how fat distribution works. I'd say I was roughly the same size as her, a bit smaller in the middle and bigger in the bust, but my face and legs are nowhere NEAR as fat/shapeless as that.

Who is she, btw, and where does she get her clothes? I'm not part of the lolita community so please pardon my ignorance. I think she looks kinda cute anyway.

>>6629750
That's weird, I have really fat and muscular legs for my size ;__; I think she's called cupcake's clothes.

>>6629749
except you are wearing a dress that poofs out at the bottom, so it's going to balance out anything on top, unless you have something insane like a 40 inch bust dropping to a 23 inch waist or something... no matter how big the skirt, that will look insane. I've seen big boobed skinny girls that don't make it work because they are not properly supporting/binding their bust, not because they happen to be skinny with big boobs.

>>6629759

But the thing is that a lot of these dress designs were based of ones designed for richer and therefore larger girls/women. You won't really notice a belly much under a floofy skirt, but if you've too little of a one compared to big boobs you'll notice where it goes in in the mid section.

Think of a lot of lolita ad kind of smoothing or averaging out your body shape a bit. It's about proportions, not overall weight, which is why that girl looks fine in Lolita. A lot of larger lolita just wear badly made clothes.

>>6629703
Has she ever posted her measurements? I'm rather interested as a fat but not nearly as fat lolita.

>>6629750
Original image poster, she has a blog here:
http://www.cupcakesclothes.com/

She does full outfit run downs and talks about where she gets her stuff. She's not "a Lolita" perse but she wears a lot of cute clothes.

So I don't know if this helps with OP's question... or if I pull it off or what. My measurements are 36 bust, 30 underbust. The two top pictures are without a sports bra or minimizer. And the bottom two are with one. For reference on sizing, the top left is a custom taobao jsk, the top right is a size 'L' taobao jsk. The bottom left is a size 'L' and the bottom right is a size 'M'. Personally I think the bottom set (with sports bra) look the best. So if you consider me large busted with those measurements then I think it works Ok if you are willing to redistribute the breast tissue. Or layer to cover up anything weird. I'm sorry I don't have brand pictures to show for reference since those would be more standard sizes, I just don't have any good bust pictures in my brand jsks. Obviously this is personal opinion if you think it works or not. But maybe this helps? if you want the jsk sizes I can dig them up.

>>6629701
People actually do that? Good heavens...

I'm a 36-26 classic, and I've never had an issue with OPs. Sometimes stuffing yourself under a house and jsk can get a bit sausage-y, or at least feel uncomfortable. Having a few custom blouses makes life a ton easier, as girls like us can generally rock the skirts. Obviously avoid the cuts that don't even work for regular dresses -- babydolls and salopettes are probably a no go. And as others have said, under busts will make you look like an Oktoberfest waitress. But I've found JetJ to be an extremely comfortable fit and frankly, I think MM would look odd on me if my tits were much smaller.

I really don't recommend binding. You have a nice shape, just dress appropriately. Binding and sports bras just make your tits look flat, not small.

>>6629816
House is supposed to be blouse, I blame autocorrect

>>6629812
Or they buy eco totes/spare waist ties from the print to modify the bodice of JSKs to fit. It happens.

>>6629759
The problem is that most lolita dresses aren't really cut for more than, say, 8-10" between bust/waist (e.g. standard AP fixed-size sizing seems to be 88 bust/68 waist, MM sizing is 88 bust/66 waist, Innocent World and Baby have approx 20cm or 8" between bust-waist even with the shirring) and certainly not more than 5-6" between bust/underbust as most are cut for around the standard B cup, which in most standard sizing charts is around a 5" difference between bust and underbust. Not to mention that the front of the dress will be lacking in the extra length required to curve over a larger bust/smaller waist. Japanese brands cater for chubby/fat Japanese chicks with their larger sizing, not large boobs, so they only assume a width-wise increase overall rather than proportion difference. If, like one of my friends, you have a big bust - for reference, hers is 10" difference between bust/underbust, with her waist being slightly smaller than her underbust, a dress cut in that fashion is not going to look right on you. They tend to ride up at the front and not curve enough to accommodate the boobs giving you boobloaf even if you can fit the measurements. Full shirring actually seems to accommodate the large bust/small waist problem well - despite everyone bagging on it for making people look fat, if you have that large bust/waist differential it's quite form-fitting and flattering.

>>6629847
5 inches between bust and underbust is not a B cup. In standard patterns (think princess seams) it is a 2 inch difference, just fyi.

>>6629823
Even at the height of my obesity, I would never consider that. I have considered buying already altered pieces, and I will probably cave and buy a replica soon, however.

>>6629823
I don't see the problem with that, better to make small adjustments and fell well into the garment than to squeeze in like sausage, but buy entire pieces to sew together? It will look like a circus tent, and so expensive!

Speaking of big boobs, I've read on here that IW is notorious for not working well with larger cup sizes. There's a jsk that I'd like to buy (full shirring in the back) and I'm about 10cm or so under the max measurements currently (bust and waist, underbust taken into consideration). It has a longer bodice than my current AP pieces, so I was thinking it might look nicer on me, but I'm not sure.

>>6630202
? give us more to work with... give us your bust and underbust and the JSK itself...

I just don't get why people say these vague things where we would have no fucking clue if something would work or not.

>Well I'm like, kind of tall and pretty skinny and there's this one JSK from Baby and I think I might fit. Thoughts?

...

>>6630210
Me: bust: 102 underbust: 92, waist: 88cm
JSK: Bust 84cm-112cm Waist 64cm-100cm

I fit well within it, so I know it will fit. But I'm not sure how nice it will look, is all. I've not bought anything from IW as of yet, just Meta and AP.

>>6630224
No I mean... tell us WHAT jsk it is...

>>6630225
Rose and Playing Cards Ladder Lace JSK.
Sorry, headache, long day at work and I can't fucking read apparently.

>>6629664

The "sexy girl" look really doesn't go with Lolita.

>>6629134
This isn't necessarily true - I fit pretty much every brand's waist size (usually JSK's are a little big), but with a 38" bust and DD cup size, most look silly in the bust, simply because the dress fits poorly. The waist is too big, the bust is WAY too small, and the overall effect is less than attractive. Of course you can still wear lolita if you have custom clothing made, but brand is definitely not the best option for someone with less traditional-for-lolita measurements.

>>6629854
My bad. I was going by a Japanese bra sizing chart rather than pattern sizing.

>>6630241
fyi DD means nothing to us since most people are fitted wrong by brand name stores... we would need your Bust and Underbust measurement to even attempt to visualize what you may look like in the bust.

>>6629682
Disregarding her weight, I don't see why people think her coords are so inspiring. Every time I've seen her it's been a bolero, JSK, and matching bow. Same shoes and tights in a lot of pictures as well. There's nothing too interesting about any of her outfits other than the fact that she's so large and pulling them off.

>>6630241
Maybe I'm just used to the girls in my family who all have FF, G, and Hs, but DD ain't anything.

>>6630284
At this point, a fat girl who doesn't look like a complete pile of shit in lolita is a miracle. People like her because they don't have to lie through their teeth when complimenting her

>>6629765

defensive fatty alert

I have a 34-35 inch bust and even I have trouble with some lolita dresses looking strange in that area so I think it will be having tough having a large bust measurement. Stick to a blouse and skirt combination, I think that would be most flattering,

>>6629703
I love how tiny her feet are in proportion to everything else. It makes her look like a toy, iunno.

saged for non-contribution

>>6629816
uh... OP never gave pictures or measurements, how do you know they have a nice shape???

Can nobody fucking google anymore? Seriously in the time it took to post an image, type up this texand do the captcha a quick search on google would have revealed multiple answers and links to helpful sights. This is pretty much everything wrong with new lolitas, all the ambition without the fucking sense to use their brains for themselves, even enough to just google a damn question that has been asked over a million times and has whole communities fucking devoted to it. Go to Bodyline OP, then come back and start another fucking useless board asking about the quality and measurments.

>>6630224
I definitely wouldn't risk it. I've tried on a few IW JSK's, and I have a 96" bust (34DD). The fit was dreadful, it was a full on boobloaf. I never really understood the term until I saw it on me.

>>6628113
my bust ia 106 and 85 under bust, any hope for me fitting into some angelic pretty?

>>6630272
Ah sorry, you're absolutely right. I'm a 32" underbust and 38" bust.

>>6630286
Well, cup size in general doesn't mean anything without a relative band size, but I agree that most of the time DD doesn't mean much - for most standard band sizes (34/36) it's usually a little above average but not like, humongous. I wasn't trying to imply they were large in general, though, merely that my breast size does not make me suited to most brand clothing.

>>6630224
IW's stuff tends to sit high in the bodice and be cut quite flat, so it may not suit you

>>6630648
cm not inch sorry!

Just for prespective. I hate hearing 'Oh DD, such a paaaain' or 'DD chiming in here, lol big boobs'. DD is not big. It usually looks just fine on smaller framed girls. DD looks normal and in no way huge. In lolita you will have problems of course, but if you really think you have WTF OMG BOOBS GUIYZ you are probably wearing the wrong size completely.

Big breasted....hmmm I would say no.

The lolita silhouette is a young one and young women have smaller boobs.
When you start pairing up lace, frills, and large tatas it looks like ageplay even if you do coordinate right.
I don't know why girls fight it.

I'd steer anyone with boobs to classical if they must do loli. But some sort of borderline between aristo and classic is where their figure might look best.

>>6630660

>>6630660
I'm not sure the point of your picture... this is terrible no matter what her chest size is...

>>6630658
I think a lot of people are just wearing the wrong size completely. Supposedly most people in the US (on average) are wearing a 36 band size, which means there's a lot of people wearing over that as well. And granted, yes, there's a lot of overweight people. But I'd guess that a lot of people are wearing 36, 38, or 40DD when they would actually be much smaller bad sizes and much larger cup sizes if they were fitted correctly. So, for them, those DD's could be genuine pains when DD might not be a problem for someone who wears a 28/30/32/34" band.

>>6630658
>Just for perspective, most women don't know shit about sizing their breasts
What a terrible picture.

>>6630670
that was the point of the picture obviously.

>>6630658
I thought I'd share a picture of a smaller-chested girl for reference. This cosplayer wears a 30A.

>>6630695
don't be mad that you realized you wear the wrong size anon :(

>>6630695
I don't understand your point. Obviously that girl has larger than a DD... the picture above isn't wrong... it's just a comparison of different framed girls in the D and DD range to show cup size and relation to the body is dependent on band size and that most are proportionate to the body and not super large by any means.

Girl in your picture is probably a 32-34 F

>>6630708
Looks like 34DD to me.

Funny cgl wants rail thin girls, then DD aint big and people shouldnt complain of back pain. Stfu fags.

>>6630713
I don't think so... an F is only one inch larger around than a DD FYI, which is probably why it looks close to the previous picture posted. But who knows what kind of tricks she may be using to hike them up and push them out /shrug obviously larger than an A-B works fine in cosplay rofl

>>6630716
wat? DD isn't big no matter what the body size...

ROFL IT AINT EVER TOO BIG.

Ok, seriously busty loli chiming in here (Bust 100; Underbust 74) It can be done but you have to be super careful about cuts. If you can get a hold of a dress with both shirring and well done darts GRAB IT. That combination is going to be your best friend. Also avoid anything that a seam across the bust. No matter how well the rest of the dress fits that bit is going to cut across your breasts in the worst way. If you have even a slightly long torso try to look for things with low waists they will conform to your natural waist best. As others have said avoid empire waists, they will likely make you look pregnant no matter how flat your stomach is. Also be aware that things with a higher waist can turn in to empire waists really quickly on you. Another thing to avoid is a lot of ruffles or fluff on the front of your blouses/dresses. It will make you look top heavy really quick.

>>6630716
DD isn't really big in the US, it's just slightly above average. In my opinion, if you go to stores and find a bra your size on a regular basis, you are not big. You are average enough for average store to cater to you.

Of, course, this also means 22W is an average size... Ew.

>>6630771
I guess people think it's big because it's one of the biggest sizes that many lingerie shops carry. If all they ever see is sizes ranging from A to DD, then someone who doesn't have large breasts themselves may get the impression that DD is the biggest existing size. And because it often is the biggest size available many women who should be wearing bigger cups end up going for the DD, strengthening the misconception that size DD is for gigantic breasts.

Also "DD" kind of looks like a pair of boobies, hurhurhur. Boobies!

>>6630633
I just meant it generically, the big tits/small waist combo.

>>6630708
The picture of all the "D" and "DD" girls is obviously wrong. The 32dd is bigger than the 36dd; the 34d in the red bra is obviously a smaller size than either of the 34ds around her; the 34dd on the bottom is much larger than the 34dd towards the top; I could go on. The picture seems extremely questionable.

Maybe you can stick with high waist cuts and fully shirred items. Those will fit your large, juicy breasts

Not sure if this has been said yet, but have you tried a tailor? I don't wear lolita, but I buy dresses that fit my boobs and then get them tailored to fit my waist. Would that work?

>>6630844
No, that is the point of the picture... cup sizes look different in comparison to different band sizes (also different boobs have different mass in different places...)... the one of the bottom right is wearing a push up bra, which is the reason they look a lot bigger fyi.

>>6628118
Is your friend's name Tiferet?

>>6632026
it's like you didn't read my post at all tho ;_;

small bands should look smaller than big bands; cups of the same size and band should look the same. and these aren't small differences, they're at least a full cup of difference

>>6632084
It's like you didn't read mine either ;_;

>>6629698
fat? yes.
frumpy? you're a trucking idiot.

>>6629696
Thank you! You just saved me £200 as I was um-ing and ah-ing over whever or not to get it on the comm sales!
Pity, it's such a pretty dress.

>>6628924
That's not true.