/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I have some questions about being tall and being a lolita:
(about being 5'8" and taller)

>can I have some examples of underskirts used in coords before everyone defaults to "wear underskirt problem solved"

>underskirts don't look nice with sweet prints. should I just not buy sweet prints all together?

(VERY IMPORTANT)
>Custom orders mess up the torso lengths. (nicely done but my boobs aren't supposed to sit on my neck.. and thats where the dress puts the breast seams) what are good ways to avoid this?

>Brand sizing on tall girls. the waistline hits right under my boobs when I wear bodyline size M. will this happen with brand? what are some good brands for tall girls?

>socks stretch me out badly. OTKs are just knee highs on me. what's a good place to get tights (for tall girls?) other than welovecolors

>blouses. I can never fit into a long sleeve blouse. nothing fits me. I have long arms. american sizes come short on me too. where can I get blouses that fit me?

Sorry for the first post to be selfpost (and ive been selfposting a lot lately, sorry), but I need some advice.

I'm really not a fan of the LP headbow. It looks really dumb on my head, especially since I don't do OTT twintails etc.

On a scale of 1-10, how stupid does this look? I'm seriously thinking of getting a better, wired sax blue headbow, but i don't really want to without another opinion.

Sorry for the lack of make up.

>>6605477
you're super cute

>>6605483
Thank you! Hopefully that means the headbow doesn't look too big.

>>6605477
the headpbow looks amazing. you are just too worried.

>>6605477
If 10 is horrible, I go with 10.

It's not you but it's the hair. Big hair looks best for the headbow because of how it sits on the head. If it were sitting flat and not propped up with would be ok.
Though if you do your hair up it might look good. Otherwise I'd probably go with removing the bow and using another hair piece or accessory for the head.

>>6605477
Put your hair up, it will look super cute!

>>6605502
Thank you! ;_; This is what I thought. It looks way too big for my head.. And wired ones usually look better, since I like putting my hair down.

There are some pretty neat dresses for sweet lolitas on yahoo japan right now.

Take a look:
http://page7.auctions.yahoo.co.jp//auction/g120832721

http://page2.auctions.yahoo.co.jp//auction/b141778286

http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp//auction/k161953773

http://page8.auctions.yahoo.co.jp//auction/h159543520

http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp//auction/e135096743

What do the inside of AP's wrist cuffs look like? I want to make my own but is the elastic sewn directly onto the lace or is it in a casing?

>>6605477
Honestly, you look adorable with it, even with your hair down. It would be cute with your hair up, too, but I like it like this.

The main problem with people wearing giant bows is when their hair is thin and flat, but yours looks very thick and healthy, which balances it a bit.

>>6605572

It's in a casing.

>>6605531

By neat, do you mean overpriced?

>>6605491
Thank you!

>>6605581
I thought about teasing the bottom part of my hair a bit, but i don't know if that will fix it. Or maybe curling it? I'm not too good with hair, I normally leave mine as it is. I would like to do more, though.

>>6605591
mte. but theyre also pretty rare

>>6605596
Curls would be very cute. I would recommend starting from the ears/chin down, using either a curling iron (1 or 1.5in) or large foam curlers. A good mousse will get you the best bouncy/weightless hold for curls.

>>6605621
Thank you so much! That really helps. I'm an idiot when it comes to hair styling so you have no idea how much that helps me.

>>6605470
you don't have to answer all of these just at least one would be good for me..

>>6605470
>underskirts don't look nice with sweet prints. should I just not buy sweet prints all together?
I've seen underskirts look fine with them. Sadly, I don't have any examples. But a tip I can give you is to try and match the fabric. If the dress is made out of chiffon, get a chiffon underskirt. So on and so forth.

In addition, I believe Cadney is 5'9" and looks great. Chokelate is also pretty tall and looks good, too. Pic related, Cadney.

>socks stretch me out badly. OTKs are just knee highs on me. what's a good place to get tights (for tall girls?) other than welovecolors
Do you wear tights? Just get some from target. Wool tights are fine, too.

>>blouses. I can never fit into a long sleeve blouse. nothing fits me. I have long arms. american sizes come short on me too. where can I get blouses that fit me?
Hm. Maybe try getting a long sleeve blouse and converting it into a puffy 3/4 blouse?

>>6605477
Headbow anon here.

I'm looking at photos of girls in big headbows. Pic related. How do I pull this off correctly?! I just cant into big headbows.

Pic related. She's doing it right, right...? How? ;_;

>>6605653

>try getting a long sleeve blouse and converting it into a puffy 3/4 blouse

I like the way you think

>>6605673
It doesn't look any worse on you, you're being too self-conscious. I don't like head-eating bows so I don't think they look good either, but you don't look any worse than them.

>>6605673
Nicely styled hair (aka it looks neat and not a mess), makeup and it matches the rest of the outfit. Age is a factor too, and you look young enough to pull it off, it's when it's obvious you're older (hard to really define) then you should stick to more muted sweet style.

>>6605587
Thanks, I thought so. Would anyone mind taking a picture of their wrist cuffs turned inside out?

I've been collecting several lolita dresses for a couple of years; however, most of the time I hate the way I look in them.
I'm not chubby and I consider myself pretty. I love my collection and every dress I own is really special.
So why does this happen?

>>6605774
Here you go. The file is a bit large because I figured you needed this for reference. There's a shot of some of mine inside out, and also right side out, just in case that's relevant.

>>6605807
Maybe they just don't suit your body? Are they all the same style? Do you have a good petticoat?

>>6605470
Another tall girl here- have you tried F+F? I've found that the custom sizing is pretty adequate.
I'm pretty tall, and most Innocent world's L fit's me decently in the waistline. The skirt length goes INCHES past my knee's, it's great. However, the bust is kind of low.

>>6605836
I got mostly sweet, nothing OTT, got my petticoat from puppet circus so is really puffy and lolita-appropriate.
just in case measurements are 35-27-35

>>6605854
Could you describe why you hate the way you look in them?

>>6605807
Maybe you could post some pictures of you dressed up and see what people think? Maybe it is just all in your head?

>>6605858
I guess I don't feel like I look cute, like my torso looks wider and shorter
>>6605860
sounds like a nice idea.

>>6605531
>http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jpp/auction/e135096743
what search terms do you use for y!japan/mbok? or do you just keep a certain url bookmarked so you can easily access lolita dress listings?

>>6605860
>>6605874
Sorry for poor quality, currently I only got my ipod to take pictures.
This is one of my favorite dresses, its also one of the dresses that makes me feel the worst. Opinions?

>>6605876
for Mbok i use this link. it has a bunch of the brands on the left.
http://www.mbok.jp/category/categ_0005800.html

>>6605880
It might be a bit small for your bust? Is it comfortable/breathable?

>>6605880
Well from what I can see i think you look very cute! I think your problem may be that you actually have boobs. You aren't flat and a lot of people who look great are pretty flat in that area.

I really won't worry about it, just be careful not to get things that are too tight in that area.

And I love your skin tone with that dress.

>>6605829
Thanks so much! I appreciate it.

>>6605876
Usually I use the terms of brand names in japanese and english.
What about you?

But >>6605883 solution is also a nice idea.

>>6605880
I think it looks nice on you.

>>6605880

I think you look quite cute! However, sweet dresses do have a habit of being extra short waisted. If you just don't like that look, perhaps try skirts, custom made dresses, or one of the more classic-sweet brands.

>>6605903
i used this url for y!japan auctions and i was maybe wondering if there was a better url to use for easier use
http://category.auctions.yahoo.co./list/%E3%83%AF%E3%83%B3%E3%83%943%83%BC%E3%82%B9-%E3%82%A2%E3%83%%E3%82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%83%AA%E3%833%E3%82%AF-%E3%83%97%E3%83%AA%E3%%86%E3%82%A3-%E3%81%82-%E3%83%96%%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E5%88%A5E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%83%83%E3%82%%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3/2084308665/?fruc-prop&tab_ex=commerce&p=%E3%83%%E3%83%B3%E3%83%94%E3%83%BC%E3%829
it says angelic pretty but i get a lot of baby stuff to in the search results

>>6605880
I think you look adorable!

>>6605880
If you can remove the bow, try a wide brown belt to bring more attention to your waist, and I think it would make you look even more adorable. But, as it it, I think you're still cute.

So I just got Bodylines L416 cutsew in pink, and all the lace is the same white except for the bottom row of lace on the chest. It's this beige color that just throws everything off. I kinda want to just remove the lace, but I've never done anything like that before, and just don't want to make it look chopped up. Any suggestions?

>underskirts don't look nice with sweet prints. should I just not buy sweet prints all together?
Some sweet border prints will look okay with a plain colour underskirt if the background is plain.

>Custom orders mess up the torso lengths. (nicely done but my boobs aren't supposed to sit on my neck.. and thats where the dress puts the breast seams) what are good ways to avoid this?
Instead of ordering online, go to a local seamstress and get items made - 50s and vintage items are pretty popular, so they should be able to create the correct silhouette and also accommodate your height.

>Brand sizing on tall girls. the waistline hits right under my boobs when I wear bodyline size M. will this happen with brand?
Yes. Brand and lolita in general is targeted mainly at a Japanese audience, where the average height is probably no more than 5' 2" for women.

>what are some good brands for tall girls?
Excentrique, Innocent World (although the torso isn't always very long, so you're probably better buying long skirts from them), Juliette et Justine (one of their models is 170cm tall and the dresses look fab on her), Victorian Maiden

>socks stretch me out badly. OTKs are just knee highs on me. what's a good place to get tights (for tall girls?) other than welovecolors
Like any high street store? Most tights come in tall/extra tall sizes these days and patterned and coloured tights are much more common as well.

>blouses. I can never fit into a long sleeve blouse. nothing fits me. I have long arms. american sizes come short on me too. where can I get blouses that fit me?
Again, that seamstress thing.

>>6605932
seamstress, unless you really really really know what you're doing

http://hellolace.net/wardrobe/moi-me-moitie/type/jsk/item/80/

This wasn't answered in the previous thread. Are these measurements accurate?

>>6605890
Yes it is breathable and comfortable, the dress can stretch even more
>>6605898
Thanks for the feedback and the nicest comment I've received while wearing lolita
>>6605904
>>6605916
Thank you very much, you're so nice
>>6605922
Thank you, unfortunately melty chocolate's bow is not detachable. Ironically I think the previous owner tried to make it detachable but failed so I had to sew the bow back to the its original position

>>6605673
There's a wee bit more volume on the sides of the hair in both these photos - having a least a teeny bit is key, whether that's having your own hair up in twintails or creating some volume with waves/back combing.

>>6605880
You're more curvy than most lolita dresses are built for, and you may have better luck with dresses that have full back shirring and waist shirring to emphasize the waist rather than back shirring alone. I don't say this much, but fully shirred dresses might actually look better on you since they can at least conform to your curves and show off your waist more.

>>6605932
Trim it off really carefully close to the seam.

>>6605907
guess you're right about sweet dresses being short-waisted, never really thought about it and I'll take your suggestion in mind

I bought some stuff today. I really shouldn't have as I'm waiting for Innocent worlds oddement lucky pack to come out. But I had a rather bad day so I went second hand lolita shopping.

I have actually owned the Meta jsk in the past as well as the simple gingham skirt and loved them both and miss them in my wardrobe so I snatched these up. And got a back ruffle Baby the stars shine bright skirt as well. The Baby skirt is in my original dream print years and years ago.

Does anyone have a list of personal shopping services and their fees? My bids keep getting deleted with Japonica. Ones that do Closet Child would be nice too.

>>6605958
I likewise have big titties -- almost exactly your measurements, actually. Lolita just wasn't built for girls like us. It flattens out your curves with the goal being to create a doll-like silhouette. As another girl said, some classic dresses will be more traditionally flattering -- giving you more of an hourglass -- but I think it might just be an issue of mentality. These dresses will make you look cute, not sexy. They'll give you a cupcake, not an hourglass.

I'm also not sure what your accessory situation is, but you might feel better if you have a complete look (headbow/shoes). Makes it feel more like a style than a dress with an odd silhouette.

does anyone else like print tights? These cat ones are cute~

>>6605991
Its such a shame I like everything AP and Baby so damn much; however, keeping in mind what you and other anons mentioned will help me gain a different perspective about why I feel bad whenever I wear my dresses.

Why do most asian lolitas cover their faces while wearing their frills?

>>6606002
dropped my picture

>>6605470
I'm 5'9-10 and Jane Marple fits really well so I recommend that brand for those of you that are taller. I find otome and classic pieces most flattering for my height. Most any JSKs can fit decently if the shoulder straps are adjustable; all you need to know is how to sew buttons. Otherwise you can always just wear blouses and skirts to ensure its hitting you in the right places.

>>6605999
It's not a shame at all; you look good. It's just an issue of mentality. Think about why the dresses appeal to you in the first place; what kind of silhouette do the models have? What kind of silhouette do other girls have? I think once you realize how much this is a part of the fashion, and not some defect particular to you ("this" being the fact that you look a bit more rectangular in the chest than you would in other clothes), hopefully the more comfortable you'll feel. It takes a lot of balls to wear all dese frills.

>>6606015

>>6606017
Even more classic styles can have this boxy effect

>>6606018

I'm new to lolita but I've been interested for years. I was looking into buying my first dress from bodyline, but I read that the petticoats aren't very good. Does anyone know if there ANY worth buying from bodyline?
Thanks!

>>6606020
Some people buy them to layer and to wear with fairy-kei as well, but otherwise they're not really worth it. If you want a decent petti for a similar price, go with victoriangirldress.

>>6606005
because the majority don't want to be identifiable on the internet? Despite being somewhat popular in Asia, it's still considered really fucking weird so if you do it, you do it unidentifiably so your boss/school/college doesn't know.

>>6606052
Ah, ok. Thanks so much!

lolita newfag here.

Can you combine a bell-shaped petticoat with an A-line petticoat to get extra poofiness? Or does it need to be two bell-shaped ones?

>>6606314
I wear a bell shaped one I bought from RTBU and a dear celine A line over the top to give it shape. It works really well/

>>6605829
Not original requester but also thank you! I've been needing good reference on wrist cuff construction and this will save me a ton of headache!

>>6605992
Um YES. Source?

>>6606317
What dc a-line? They haven't released an a line in over, two years. Only cupcakes.

>>6606336
This dear celine petticoat is more or less A line. Mine is completely A line now. Flat but enough to have a small amount of puff to shape nicely.

>>6606330
ah I'm on an indie brand binge lately! It's from Doris (only 2 remain in reservation) http://doris.shop-pro.jp/?pid=526620

Anyone know how long Classical Puppets on taobao takes to ship usually?

>>6606340
Ok that is a cupcake, but whatever you say.

>>6605470
As far as blouses go sewing your own is a very easy project. Learning to sew is a very handy skill and if you can just get down a few simple techniques (the internet is full of tutorials on darting, ruffles, adding lace, etc) you can have wearable, fitting clothing. Don't be intimidated by the awful low-tier indie "seamstresses" that are abound in lolita - most of them are either shit at picking out patterns or shit at construction or both. You sound like you have good enough taste to avoid that.

Does anyone have ideas for hairstyles without fringes? I have dark brown hair that naturally falls into ringlets when I style it properly, but because it's curly there's no way to get a fringe cut in without it looking like a total mess (or straightening it all the time).

I'm looking at clip-in fringes, but I'd like to know if there are other options as well.

>>6606519
um... altering a blouse pattern properly (for torso length as well as cup alterations on princess seams (of needed), and sleeve length), knowing what a proper fit looks like on your muslin, doing collars and cuffs correctly? No, properly fitted and sewn blouses are NOT an easy project at all. Do you... do you even know what you're talking about???

>>6606020
I dont like bodyline dresses either. I'd honestly recommend saving up for a dress by a brand you genuinely like and buying it 2nd hand.

Bodyline's shoes are ok.

>>6606340
that is most definitely a bell, not an A line

>>6605934
>nocent World (although the torso isn't always very long, so you're probably better buying long skirts from them), Juliette et Justine (one of their models is 170cm tall and the dresses look fab on her), Victorian Maiden

>170m
>tall

I'm 6'1" will JetJ work on me?

>>6607130
You'll likely want an underskirt.

>>6607130
Some of their dresses will work for you. JetJ does release some long dresses. Chokelate is a bit shorter than you (she's around the 5'10" mark) but she wears JetJ and long IW dresses just fine.

>>6607130
Will depend on how endowed you are and the length of your torso.

>>6606052
I wear my bodyline petticoat (one of the fairy kei ones with the little cute ribbons) when I wear Lolita skirts out in public. I just like a little bit of volume but not so much as to stand out like a sore thumb. But I don't wear it to meetups or conventions.

>>6606314
Yes, I layer the classical puppets bell-shaped with the a-line underneath and it still looks bell-shaped overall.

>>6607130
Look at how it sits on their models, you want the dresses that look like they have slightly longer bodices. The skirt part is obviously not going to be as long on you, but given that most of those dresses are below-knee to tea-length on them they'll hopefully be just-above-knee on you which is acceptable. Look up iiralina, who I think is your height - she ends up making most of her clothes herself, but she does own some brand items that she looks fantastic in.

>>6606340
That's a bell shaped petticoat, it has more fullness at the top than a true A-line. It may well have deflated into a more A-line esque shape though.

>>6606472
When I ordered at the end of december it took them 2 weeks.

>>6606519
Learning to sew is easy. Sewing a well fitting blouse and making all the pattern adjustments required to fit a taller person is not always so easy. It's not like she can just use a standard store pattern because of her height.

>>6606529
Ringlets are amazing, why would you want bangs? If you've got enough length, braided updos are the way of the future.

>>6607130
so for example, this dress might work quite well for you as the torso is longer and the overall dress length is 110cm.

>>6607180
thin. can fit into size small. very thin.

>>6607156
you say "get an underskirt" thats what everyone says. it isn't that simple. I've seen underskirts look like shit. "get an underskirt" is not an instafix for things.

>>6607208
I see where you are coming from. unfortunately that dress is fuggo.

>>6607222
I saw this one girl at a convention who was my height (5'09" to 5'10") and she had a dress that came all the way to her knees. I think she said it was from Taobao and when I saw it in person it did look nice. Damn me if I know what store it was, though. Good luck.

>>6606404
Thanks for the link! There's some worn photos on their blog.
http://ameblo.jp/d-doris/entry-114075184.html

>>6607222
Yeah, obviously if you don't like that dress then don't get it, but those are the features that you need to be looking for if you want to buy brand at all. If you're unable to find a good local seamstress or sew yourself, you're going to have to just hang out for the 1-2% of items that might work for your height, as the primary target market is about a foot shorter than you. Atelier Pierrot and Millefleurs sometimes make longer dresses as well, if you want to keep an eye on their websites. Pic not super related because it's Excentrique, but the length on that corset/skirt set might be good for you.

>>6607318
That's IW and she is 5'10. That dress is named Beatrice. IW offers many of their JSKs in a long version, and the straps tend to be adjustable.

http://lolibrary.org/node/3896

>>6607318
>>6607390
There is hope for my people

Why do so many lolitas block out their faces?

Are you fuckers THAT scared of people calling you ugly? Grow some self-esteem.

>>6607433
You just called us ugly 'fuckers'.
Yes, we are that scared, no amount of self-esteem can prepare us for you fuckers.

>>6607433
It's common for Japanese lolitas to block out their faces, like >>6606054 said so they aren't identifyable on the internet. The other pictures with blocked out faces in this thread is a self post, which is understandable if she doesn't want people on 4chan to see her face, and someone posted a picture of another girl and has respectfully covered her face because friends don't post friends on 4chan.

>>6607443
Right, because being posted on 4chan somehow puts you in some sort of danger.

Just admit that you're a coward who is too afraid of being put down to show your face.

It's okay, sugarplumb. We wont laugh at your acne or your big nose. Honest.

>>6607451
not sure if trolling or aggressively stupid

is there even a difference?

>>6607451
>we wont laugh at your acne or your big nose honest
>4chan
>wont laugh

whatever you say

>>6607454
More like you just ran out of comebacks.

Now is where you just say "troll" and "0/10" over and over because you have nothing to refute anything with.

>>6607461
You're not making an argument that needs to be 'refuted.' You're just demanding people post their faces on /cgl/ because they 'won't get laughed at.' You're not exactly fucking Socrates here.

>>6607461
Where in the 4chan constitution does it say anyone has to post themselves up for ridicule? Get over yourself. No one owes you anything. Go back to r9k faggot.

>>6607461
What are people trying to refute though
A lot of people don't want their faces plastered on the internet for whatever reason. Deal with it.

Does anyone know if usagiyouhnten updates on particular days like closet child and fururun do, or whether it's totally random?

What do people make at crafting meetups? I assume lolita accessories but what specifically?

Only crafts I do are scrapbooking and art journaling, but I don't think thats what they do there.

>>6607736
Also I'm new to meetups and whatnot

>>6607433
I block out my face sometimes, usually because I'm more interested in showing off my coord rather my face.

Oh lord.
Headbow anon here.

I tried tying my hair in twintails. It looks absolutely terrible. I feel like an elephant. Pics of shame upon request. You may or may not get a chuckle out of how ridiculous I look. I think I will try curling my hair down.. for now, I will probably purchase a smaller headbow from Chess Story.

>>6607741
There is normally an already decided craft. Meetups are like planned parties.

>>6607673
What days does fururun upload?

>>6608030
Monday/Tuesday/Friday usually. Also sagefail.

>>6608030
Just realised I had sage on the names which I thought I had removed... Looks weird aha.

Is the Dream Fantasy print for this years LP popular on its own or were the LPs in demand only because it was a printed LP?

I want to get rid of some of them but I don't know how much to charge or ask for trades. I don't want to do an auction because I would rather price and wait rather than hoping people have money on hand.

Any help appreciated!

>>6605932
get a seam ripper. I've removed lace frm bodyline items, it's not very hard.

>>6607200

Yes, it's long, it's just below my bust when I wear it down. I want bangs mostly because I think headbows look kind of weird on me without them.

Thank you for the picture, saved it into my inspiration folder!

>>6608636
I think having some shorter layers at the front (like chin-length) that you can leave out might work okay and could still be long enough to stay ringlet-y as opposed to frizz. You could also braid them out of the way if necessary.

http://fuckyeahbraids.tumblr.com/
http://pinterest.com/Seventeen/besin-braids/
http://www.beautylish.com/a/vcyiq/aids-101

>>6608725

Thank you for the sites!

I like the idea of shorter layers, I'll speak to my hairdresser the next time I go in.

>>6608403
I recently sold my purse for $40 + shipping. Sold in an instant. I wish I priced mine more around $55, that will probably be the max price, maybe even $60. Oh well.

http://egl.livejournal.com/1909748html

Interesting

>>6609702
vendetta-anon must be foaming at the mouth right now

>>6609443

i can't believe what some people are selling the LPs at. 300 dollars for the salopette one originally 10500 yen? That is insane.
I don't blame the sellers though. If people are stupid enough to pay that much..

http://egl.livejournal.com/1909676html

I'm super glad I found a different SS instead of going back to Mai... hot damn.

>>6609746
As a lucky pack owner, I realize that the items are cheap, but you also have to take into consideration how few were sold and the rush to get the LPs.

This is something I didnt really realize until I bought one. There's also shipping and possible SS fees.

But, yeah, either way, I agree with you.

The bag I sold was terrible quality.. honestly not worth more than $20. But, ~*BURANDO*~, and suddenly its worth double the price.

>>6605442
Question: Should I dry clean a NWOT item I have never worn? I get paranoid that my apartment might smell weird and I just want to be sure my items don't before I sell them.

i'm thinking i like alice fururun a whole lot better than closet child. maybe its just because chrome seems to have a better time dealing with alice than cc, but alice is a whole lot easier to understand in terms of measurement and sizes.

>>6609872
i forgot to add: anybody have good fururun experiences

>>6609834
Look at the care instructions on the tag. Don't just atuo dry clean things bc they could get ruined. At the very least go to a reputable person and ask them.

But seriously the tag will have info

>>6609872
I bought a hairbow from them ages ago. It wasn't a bad experience, but the damned thing showed up smelling of cigarette smoke.

>>6609962
Fururun will buy anything no matter how bad the condition is. I have seen some pretty awful things on there.

If the condition is too bad, Closet Child won't buy it. So they at least have a quality level.

>>6609443
>>6609746
>>6609823

I was just curious what the general consensus was about the print. The rarity of LPs makes them jump to normal salopette/jsk level? I would have thought it was more because this print was popular combined with the cheap price rush.

>>6609964
Yeah, I've seen some pretty beat up pieces on there. The bow aired out with the help of one of those odor-eater shoe ball things in the end, but opening the package to that aroma was a bit of an unpleasant surprise.

>>6609959
oh, my question wasn't about if the item was able to be dry cleaned...

>>6609874
Yup, everything I've bought from there has been as described - they usually say if anything has perfume/smoke smell and what wear and tear there is. Their measurements are the most accurate of all the second-hand sites IMO.

>>6609962
Did the description say that? It sucks that it came to you like that, but often they warn you.

>>6609834
Don't bother unless you have a really shitty apartment

>>6610171
No warning, no. It was "like new". The smell was subtle enough that they may not have noticed and only the fact that it was bagged up for a week in transit made it noticeable. It didn't ruin the experience (or the item) for me, though. Like I said, the smell came out.

>>6609874
Eh I dunno. I got a JSK from them in great condition, and while their communication was okay (a few days for invoice, a few more to skip out) before that I was used to buying from Tokyo Alice and Usagiyouhinten, and they will invoice you next the day and ship out ASAP. So it seemed a little slow in comparison. Better than Fairy Angel, though; they seem to ship whenever the fuck they feel like it and are pretty overpriced.

>>6609872
SHIT WTF THIS JUST CAME UP AND SOLD THE DAY I DIDN'T CHECK

>>6610291
Also this NWT; why, Fururun? Usually your stuff isn't this nice.

>>6610189
Tokyo alice took 3 days to get back to me with my first order with them, not sure if it went to their spam box (shouldn't have because it was my gmail account which is usually okay) or something. They did ship waaay quicker though.

>>6610393
Maybe it was busier time of year? I've done three orders with them and they've gotten back to me either the day of or the day after.

>>6610438
It was June, so maybe?

>>6610295
Fururun has like...one outlet day (I think Monday) where all the stuff updated is pretty cheap and cheerful and then it has a "lolita day" (tuesday) and "gothic/punk" day (Friday). I always check Tuesday nights.

>Have you done any DIY accessories?
Nope, i'm not that creative sadly. It will probably look horrible if i tried, haha.
>Working on a coord?
Short on money + my mom is being very annoying about the clothes I buy (All the dresses look the same, don't you have enough of them now. Buy some normal clothes)
>Buy anything new? Sold anything old?
I'm waiting on Krad Lankrete Mozarabic Chant skirt in peacock blue and Chess Story's Starry Night Angel skirt in Lavender. Thinking about buying something from Lady Sloth, Haenuli or Baroque soonish... Especially this print is really a fave of mine at the moment

>>6607974

Ah. Misako did one of those kawaii tv segments or something on this once. She buys a couple of those clip-on hair ponytails in colours that matches her real hair. Then she ties her hair in twin tails and attaches the clip-on to each side. Instant poofy hair, good for balancing out giant hairbows.

When exactly do alice fururun and usagiyouhinten update their sites? All the good stuff is already sold when I check their sites.

>>6610568
See >>6610470, >>6608044
It's usually around 3-4pm Japan time on those days for fururun. No idea about usagiyouhinten

>>6609874
I've bought from fururun before- I mainly watch them because their prices are just so much better and they have a lot more older pieces because they do accept everything. They ship probably the fastest as well. usagiyouhinten is ok too- but one time I received a dress that smelled really heavily of storage. Nothing wrong with the dress besides the fact it smelled like dust and mold. I washed it and it was good as new.usagi also has a staff member who speaks very good english, so if you have any concerns or questions thats a plus.

Does anyone use clip-in extensions for lolita? Mostly for when the hair is down, to make it look thicker/longer?

>>6611405
Definitely! I often curl my extensions because they hold a curl better than my natural hair, so it looks like waves turning into curls at the bottom

We Thor now

>>6611483
I AM WAY TOO OKAY WITH THIS

>>6611483
But thats Odin on one of his 8 -legged horses, not thor.

>>6611486
Whatever

>>6611485
i like the black on grey with the red trimmings
i like the little dingy between the shoulder straps
i like the cut of the jsk
I have no idea how I feel about the print

>>6611483
I want this. I want this bad. But I have no monies. Medical bills, y u so expensive?

>>6611483
>>6611489
I want to hate it but I can't. Where is this fron again?

>>6611483
I wonder if you can get it without the ugly stone necklace, but WITH the gold ovals?

>>6611528
It's probably detachable, you could probably remove the chain from the clips(I aassume that they are clips/brooches)

>>6611512
http://egl-comm-sales.livejournal.m/20570372.html#comments

>>6611545
Well I don't want to pay more for a necklace I would just toss, and I know the beads are handmade. My best bet is just to ask I guess, haha.

didn't know where else to ask this, so oh well

how could one modify this dress so it could be used with an otome-style coord?

>>6611561
a really really really short petticoat and a belt at the waist
no modification required

>>6611550
Oh I was looking at the post, it says right there you can get just the brooches and no pearls.
>>6611548
Thank you! Totally forgot it was ergi. I need this because my heritiji.

>>6611561

We srsly need an otome thread.

I think the dress is fine for otome. You do need to dress it up with the right clothing and accessories though. Perhaps a cardigan with a nice cutesy pattern or a lace edging and/or tights with a really cute pattern. Maybe both would be too busy though. Jewelry should probably be gold - pendant on a chain, charm bracelet, etc.

Though tbh I always forget jewelry too. I'm just starting to learn to coord myself.

>>6611589
They last for a few days and then fall off. Unlike cosplay and lolita there isn't a real community for it so it's harder to keep a thread going (I love otome and post whenever there is a thread.)

>>6611561
This looks like it could be pretty versatile for otome since the color is fairly neutral so you could pair any color cardigan, tights, etc with it and it would work. Personally, probably dark red tights and brown lace up ankle boots and gold jewelry with garnet gems. I probably wouldn't wear a cardigan with this but maybe a vest (black with red/brown/peachy accents) or a jacket. A hat or simple headband with soft waves/curls.

>>6611486
>http://egl-comm-sales.livejournalom/20570372.html#comments

Its a viking design not a "thor" design. She says its Odin in the descriptions.

>Thor fangirls disregarding 1000s years of history

So, I just bought what I think was the last of the Innocent World New Year's Lucky Packs since they've been up for months but disappeared the day after I ordered Pack B.

Should I expect shit? The only reason I held off for so long was because I thought I was too and they hadn't updated their page yet. The archive isn't working, so I can't see what other people got. Did anyone else get a pack late, whether it was this winter or last summer?

I wanna cosplay as a tomboy character this year.
Who are some tomboys who don't get cosplayed enough?

>>6611487
Do you even elder and prose edda?

>>6611699
Seriously. It hurts my autism.

>>6611778
I'm so jelly. I don't have the cash to drop now. Ah, next year.

>>6611867
Every year I think "next year" and then thank god I didn't buy one. The only giant pack I wish I would have bought was the AATP set. Never disappointed with the styling of the pack even if things don't fit!

I guess IW is good because you can pick size though!

Hime hair help? I was looking on tumblr, since it's more active than LJ, but most people just post outfits under the hime lolita tag and I need help with hair.

>>6611699
The hell you replying to me? I didn't imply I am some blood relation of Thor.

>>6611933
Aww shoot I saw the last two digits and threw a tanty, sorry. I'll go to bed now.

>>6611933
uwotm8?
You just replied to>>6611699 , Which was replying to >>6611486 , which is my post.

>>6609874
I bought one thing from Fururun sofar. Everything was fine. It did smell heavily of storage when it arrived, but it was nothing that a few days hanging in the closet couldn't fix. It was a pretty good deal, considering it was a new print, practically new (or lightly worn) with tags, and I paid something like $250 after shipping for it, when people on the sales comm were charging about $300+, even with stains or minor damage.

>>6611778
If you like innocent world enough to get a LP than you'll most likely love it. I'm personally hoping that the oddement lucky packs are about to come out.

>>6611955
I take it you didn't read the post directly below

>>6612263
I got an LP and even though I love it, it's not like an oddment pack, which seems to be so much better.

Just bought my first dress, so excited! Pic related.

>>6612435
Whoops, forgot my question in my excitement. How you seagulls suggest one go about building a wardrobe; outfit by outfit, or just pieces that I like, or...?

>>6612435
that looks beautiful anon! congrats :3

>>6612439
Wow, great choice! I think especially when you're building upon a first single piece, building around accessorizing different coords for that piece is a good idea. Then, when you see what other kinds of main pieces can go with the items you bought to coord that dress, you can start branching out into what can work with multiple pieces, coord for those, and so on.

Is there a god place to snatch up older brand? I'm way too late to this game, I can't find anything but replicas. I'd be willing to pay anything within reason, but I'd rather not settle for damaged.

>>6612453
So... you want the MMM bat handbag, is that specifically what you are looking for??

>>6612453
blackxblue colorway appears to be in stock on the mmm site http://moi-meme-moitie.shop-pro.jppid=22146043 (not sure what the red message at the top means however)

>>6612462
also cdjapan http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/apparel/aarel_detail.html?KEY=NEOAPP-18403

Does this dress look ita to you?

>>6612462
It says 'オススメ' and it means recommended according to google translate... A bit weird as o-s'-s'-me' doesn't sound like it to me!

>>6612490
*"o-s'-s'-meh"

>>6612459
Yes.

>>6612462
Thanks, I had seen that one though, I was looking for the black.
Generally, however, are there any reputable second-hand sales?

>>6612439
I second building it outfit by outfit at the start. Pieces you like is all well and good but as soon as you try to wear them it gets really frustrating - you need to have at least a few basics for an outfit first.

>>6612488
This suspiciously looks a lot like the uniform that girl from Fruit Baskets wears

>>6612439
I began by spending all of my money on items I liked but then I looked like shit trying to wear them. I'd suggest starting by outfit (or rather starting by a general theme or 2-3 colours) so you can mix and match items.

>>6612444
>>6612511
>>6612524
Outfit by outfit it is, then. Thanks!

>>6612512
shucks. I kinda wanted it. So I guess it's not a good idea?

>>6612562
If you like it, buy it. It's cute enough in spite of the resemblance.

>>6612488
It's under the costume section, under cosplay in bodyline. That shit isn't even classified as lolita.

>>6612615
It was from the lolita design contest.

>>6612615
>>6612620
So there's no way I should buy it? :[
I'm a student on a tight budget

>>6613389
I think it's a cute dress personally but it's definitely not a first timer piece. Too costumey unless you're experienced in coording to tone it down. That coord is honestly not very good..

Pick something more subtle from the lolita section for your first outfit, Bodyline is fine but you have to be smart about it.

>>6613406
Ok, thanks I'll take your word for it.
I'll keep looking until I find something.
And I know, I really need to work on my coords, they usually always turn out bland and terrible

hey seagulls, any good ideas on a coord for this dress?

>>6613604
Try a hime coord? Tights, some heels with a bow, hair up in a cute bin with a tiara and some classy earrings, maybe some wrist-length gloves?

>>6613626
*cute bun, derp

>>6613429
It's not bland,just terrible...please get something nicer and less costumey instead since you're going to need something easy to coord

>>6613657
I'll be honest, I do have a dress that's a bit better. But it's still hard for me to coord. I'll probably never wear it...and the hat is fucking awful. I've been trying so hard to pair things with it, but I hate the black and white, it's impossible for someone as mental as me to work with lmao

>>6613686
Oh... you have really terrible taste...

>>6613690
So there's nothing I can do for it?

>>6613701
That black dress doesn't look like you can fit a full enough petti under it, as well as it's quite long. You maybe could wear it for aristo but honestly, it looks very cheap and looks like it's based off a character rather than for lolita specifically. That hat is terrible, get rid of it. Tiny hats are not in fashion anymore and the lace on it is very poor anyway. That neck-tie looks so weird and out of place, get rid of that too.

>>6613706
Actually I just noticed the sleeves... that looks really weird.

>>6612439
i started with 2 outfits and then just got stuff i liked given they would at least match something i owned

>>6613406
>I think it's a cute dress personally but it's definitely not a first timer piece. Too costumey unless you're experienced in coording to tone it down.

This!

>>6613686
my advice is to not get bodyline.

get some 2nd hand AP/BABY on mbok. You'll spend about $70 for a JSK. And yes, a JSK is better than an OP-- it will be easier to coordinate and easier to either tone down or spice up.

>>6613706
Hat is gone. The dickie is removable but the black part isn't, I could get it tailored. Also I agree with the sleeves, I wanted to maybe find a jacket, but once again, black and white. And I know that won't work. I feels really maid to me, and I hate that too. I'm also extremely tall so the dress doesn't look that long on me, it's just at the knee.
So yeah, I'm just in pain over this dress. If I could sell it, I would, but then I would have to find someone stupider than me to buy it. Haha I'm laughing at my own humility. Well, live and learn. And I've definitely learned that I have shit taste and need to save for something beautiful. I'm really in love with everything from innocent world, but I can hardly afford something pre-owned from closet child.

>>6613732
IW goes for fairly cheap secondhand on the comm-sales, so if you're into classic I would recommend looking there.

>>6613732
My recommendation would be to not buy a dress you'll struggle with from Bodyline. Take that money you would have spent and put it either into an account for saving, or put it away in a drawer somewhere safe, and save up for a dress you actually want and love. You're going to spend at least $50, if not more, so put that towards something you really like.

>>6613730
Thank you! The best advice so far. I'm not a huge fan of AP (I don't look good in sweet, or anything pink for that matter) I like jewel tones or neutral colors. I'm waiting for my income tax to finally get this right, and I will DEFINITELY ask for opinions before I impulsively buy something ugly again.

>>6613730

I agree 100%.
Better quality, cuter designs/prints, better resale value, etc and less chance of bad lace and looking ita.
Bodyline sometimes has nice items but 90% of it sucks.
If you don't want to spend a lot of money on jsks, ops, blouses, etc, Toabao has really nice stuff as well.

>>6613743
AP has great casual stuff is why i suggested it. i have a chiffon dress i got for $80 in perfect condition and i wear it everywhere, and can be pulled off from low-high poof.

also, dont use japonica, use fromjapan as an SS.

has anyone EVER seen this sold?!

Ive been looking for it since last year, and I just cant find it

name is Heart Scallop-Chan salopette

>>6613760
I agree. A lot of AP's non-print stuff is really nice and goes for cheaper second hand. I guess when a lot of people think AP is expensive, they're thinking of the printed dresses.

>>6613766
http://www.closetchildonlineshop.c/product/39229

>>6613778
This. If you're a little flexible about the exact style you want, and are willing to spend some time combing the Japanese auction sites, you can score some amazing deals on brand stuff, especially the larger brands like Baby & AP where there's more items in the second-hand market. Pic related, AP blazer I just snagged off mBok for 3500 yen, plus SS fee & shipping.

>>6613791
Wow, that's a great deal! You must be very pleased. That blazer is really cute too.

>>6613791
This is adorable! I'll probably spend the rest of my day looking at mbok

>>6613778

I agree, the non-printed stuff is the nicest!
But for some reason also harder to find.

>>6613840
That's because non-print pieces are more versatile, so people are less likely to sell those off since they can work with a multitude more styles and coords.

Bought these from VV today for $12 each.

I know the second one is a $67 Bodyline dress

I have no fucking clue what the first is other than the tag says EVA

As I am not a lolita(just occasionally browse) how much do you think I can get for them?

There's some minor damage that I'm going to fix

>1st dress: missing the blue buttons
>2dn dress: the ugly cheap lace thing on the neck fell off. Dress looks better without it, but needs a brooch to hold the two brown bits.
I'm also thinking of removing the shitty lace off from the sleeves

Bought these from VV today for $12 each.

I know the second one is a $67 Bodyline dress

I have no fucking clue what the first is other than the tag says EVA

As I am not a lolita(just occasionally browse) how much do you think I can get for them?

There's some minor damage that I'm going to fix

>1st dress: missing the blue buttons
>2nd dress: the ugly cheap lace thing on the neck fell off. Dress looks better without it, but needs a brooch to hold the two brown bits.
I'm also thinking of removing the shitty lace off from the sleeves

>>6614387
*piece

Considering a possible steam punk themed coord? Do any of you have any good ideas on what to iece it with? Go as OTT as you like.

>>6613732
Look on fururun, maidenclothing, and usagiyouhinten as well. Fururun has some amazing buys at times - I got a black velvet Meta JSK for 3000 yen + shipping (so about 6000 yen all up) because it was missing the detachable bows and had a couple of tiny bits where the pile had come off.

>>6605673
oh for pete's sake, why has no one told you that the one with light hair is wearing a wig yet? Decent wigs automagically have more volume horizontally.

The Dream Fantasy Headbow is too big for straight hair. You need fluffy volume or a wig for it. So either pull some of your hair up into little pigtails and like curl it to make your hair wider, or try clip in pigtails, or curling all your hair.

It's not a problem with you; those headbows are made to be worn with wigs. Google for images of Maki and Asuka (AP designers) and you will see that they almost always wear wigs with their headbows.

If you want to wear a headbow without a wig or teasing your hair into super-volume mode, you want it to be 2/3 that size, max.

>>6613848
Try Mbok. I get non-print AP there for a song. $30 skirts, $60 JSKs

Having a hard time deciding how to go about bidding on two dresses on auction right now. There's a considerable gap between the two in terms of minimum bid, though both are within my budget at what I would put as my maximums. The more "desirable" one is at a lower starting bid, which means I could possibly get a good deal on it if no one else is interested. Problem is, the more expensive one ends sooner, so I'm going back and forth on whether I should risk letting it renew or re-list at a lower price (the seller may not do either) and wait for the fancier one, or just go all out and put bids in on both.

>>6615151
How much do you want it/will you be devastated if you miss both? If it doesn't really matter either way do what is most cost effective for you, but if you really want both try for both.

>>6615185
Not sure about devastated, but they're both hard to find/don't come up for sale all that often. Also not sure if the cheaper one would look good on me--it's not a cut of dress I've worn before. Thus the back and forth debate about whether to risk letting the more expensive one come down a bit or just go for it straight away.

I want to cry /cgl. I just finally got the cash to buy this dress, and they're all gone. Which should I get instead?

>>6614336
anyone?

>>6615041
thats the same girl, and its pretty obvious shes wearing a wig so nobody said it

also maki and asuka dont even wear wigs that often, they use clip-ins more.

>>6615303
Put them up on ebay at $1 reserve and you'll be surprised at how much you can get.

>>6615365
Asuka almost always wears a full wig, Maki wears usually clip-in twin tails and sometimes clip-in bangs

>>6613709
I was interested in getting that dress since it was relatively cheap and I could just remove the parts I didn't like but the sleeves really sealed the deal in abandoning ship.

Posting here because I don't see a dress info thread:
Does anyone know anything about this skirt? I looked all over Hellolace and Lolibrary and found nothing. It's driving me crazy because I have to know the vital stats of all my lolita clothing.

>>6615498
All I know is that it's AP and I wanted so bad once upon a time. It's probably from about 2007-8.

>>6615508
Yeah, I was guessing it's from around that time, as well. Even if I just knew the official name I'd be satisfied enough. Haha, this is what I hate about preferring plainer pieces, it's so much harder to find information on a lot of them.

>>6615516
I wish I still had my old computer, it had fucking everything about everything on it. If I can find anything out using other means, I'll reply again

>>6615535
Thanks so much for trying, anyway!

I've been googling for a couple of hours now and all I'm getting is mixed information so I thought I'd ask here:
Is My-lolita-dress.com a trustworthy site? There was some stuff about them possibly being linked to milanoo a while back but now a lot of people are saying they're okay.
Any (up-to-date) information would be very gratefully recieved!

>>6615706
>My-lolita-dress.com
its a taobao reseller seems legit

>>6615706
They're a taobao reselling site, I think? Not milanoo.

I think I've become a brandwhore. (at least when it comes to main pieces anyway, I'm still okay with cheaper options for blouses and shoes).

I used to be really into replicas and liked the idea of owning them because of the cost and the sizing. But then I lost weight, fit into a good deal of back-shirred brand now. Got over the initial sticker shock of spending a few hundred on a dress. I have some bodyline dresses and I finally found the real versions of the replicas I owned. But I feel like I just can't go back to them. I see that Oojia is making a replica of so and so, but then I realize that "Oh, it's not going to look as nice, and I won't ever wear it. Why waste the money?" I want to buy a particular bodyline print, but realize I'd rather opt to wear my brand instead because of the price I paid for it.

I used to wonder how people could get so stuck up about brand in Lolita. Now I understand. lol.

>>6616284
Do you really think anyone gives a crap that you're not wearing a lolita brand label dress? Just wear what looks cute and stop fixating on what designer brand you wear.

>>6616297
Way to miss the point of her anecdote. And no, not samefag.

For tall girls, how is fanplusfriend?

how do custom orders work for you?

whenever I do custom orders (in general) the dress ends up putting the bust line at my neck and its gross and wrong and boobs aren't supposed to go there

>>6616284
I'm actually kind of indifferent. I own indie, taobao, and brand but coming from a couture sewing background and having worked in local fabric stores that have trunk shows for each seasons designer fabrics... none of the pieces I've worn could I ever consider worth the price that is asked for mass manufactured products with the materials they use. Granted, I've never owned replicas so i couldn't compare what I have with those, but nothing I own (brand wise) is worth the price and isn't leaps and bounds over my cheaper taobao or indie /shrug

Man though... working with actual high tier fashion, designer fabrics? wowowow, the store I used to work at would have a representative for Ungaro and Valentino come in once a season to take orders and there would be this huge catering party and people dropped thousands on just enough fabric for maybe two garments, was wild.... I forget the other designers we had... something with a C? Anyway, even feeling mid grade garment cottons (like Liberty of London) and you can see how much lower grade brand materials are /shrug. Not to mention construction, ugh. The owner of the store was an amazing tailor specializing in women's suit-ware, her work was amazing.

>>6616326
I've heard mixed things about them from people who needed extensive custom measurements (like if you need torso lengthened, large bust to waist gaps, things like that).

My personal experiences with them have been good but my custom measurements don't deviate much from their standard except to shorten skirt lengths and bodice lengths slightly since I have the opposite problem of being short and short torso'd- and the custom items I had fit quite well.

>>6616284
Kind of understand what you mean there. Especially the last part, because you've paid a lot of money and you want to get your money's worth out of it.

>>6616297
I think it was more of a 'brand vs. replica' situation than 'all brand all the time only brand now' statement.

"Once you go brand, you never go back."
>>6616284 I thought I wasn't a brandwhore until I realised I was buying some things (a BABY scrunchie, IW hats, AP barettes, etc.) just because they had the brand's name on them. My wardrobe has some indie and handmade stuff in it, but I think I've been weak to the perceived value brands put on their print and named items by pricing. Now I'm trying to be more objective about what I buy, only dropping the big bucks on brand items with lots of detailing (I've also kind of gone off Angelic Pretty since finding out some of their stuff is made in China- if I'm going to pay lots for a dress with high labour hours I'd pick somewhere with a higher workshop wage).

>>6615192
And one of the items has had the bid retracted on two of the shopping service's bidding accounts. Guess that sort of decides things.

>>6616331
I can understand that. I'd like to actually see some truly high fashion garments and really compare them. Though one thing I tend to really like about brand, and why I don't really mind paying the price is because I really enjoy the artwork on the prints I own. As an artist, I can appreciate that. Part of why I started seeking out the real versions of my replicas and got rid of them (not that it really helps the problem by reselling them, but whatevs).

Other than that, I do have a few indie pieces I really love, and get a lot of wear out of those too. But I don't think I can go back to wearing replicas again. Bodyline, maybe. Replicas, probably not, despite the temptation still being there. IDK.

>>6615721
>>6615719
Thank you!

>>6616331
I don't know. Taking into consideration western brands at a similar pricepoint like Betsey Johnson, D&G, etc, I think most of my lolita stuff is about equal or slightly better quality.

Of course with brands you're talking about lolita isn't even going to come close but that's because those are brands that are into the thousands for the smallest of items- not the $300 dress pricepoint lolita is at.

>>6616382
Understandable, but at least I can say I've actually felt and seen those fabrics for comparison I guess? You hear about these people really shouting from the rooftops about brand quality and it's like.. Nah.

Ugh, we also had a stash in the back where the owner ordered the cashmere and wool and that shit... 400 bucks a 1/2 yard for some of it? insane.

And the suiting/shirting fabrics? to die for. And those were only about 75 a yard at least.

>>6616393
Yeah, I can definitely understand that. I'm not in fashion myself but I know a lot of fashion majors and I've gotten to ooh and aah over the fabrics they have shipped to them for their degree collections from stores like the one you worked at; nice jerseys, crepe wools. That stuff is really worth the buck and lolita fabrics are oftentimes really disappointing in comparison- like the barely decent grade cotton Baby/AATP uses a lot of the time in their solid dresses.

>>6616326
Better stay away from fanplusfriend, their custom sizing is often way off. And I'm personally not a friend of the fabric they use. The cotton alayws feels kind of stiff and rough and thin, idk.... it even makes their better dress designs look cheap... not worth the price if you ask me.

taobao is the way to go

would this be considered good lace?

>>6616453
Yup, that looks fine to me.

I'm looking into getting a petticoat for baby's first coord and I think Classical Puppets is looking good. Any input?

>>6616459
It's a pretty great petticoat, you''re fine.

I really like all the prints in lolita, but not the poofiness? of the jsks and skirts - is there a way to commission or modify a dress so that it's shorter and not as fluffy? Basically, so you wouldn't need to wear a petti underneath it

>>6616466
I think you'd benefit from looking at salopettes, miniskirts and drop-waist JSK's like the ones AP has done a lot lately.

>>6616326
Fanplusfriend is pretty eh even for normal sizing/standard sizes, and they are hit and miss with their custom items.
Why not take previous advice and get a local seamstress to make you something so they can actually measure themselves and see where things should sit on you?

>>6616393
Brand quality seems to be a very subjective thing - obviously some people feel that it's very worth it for the price and others don't, even when we had a thread rating/ranking brands in terms of quality results varied wildly because of the different parameters people used to determine what good quality was. There's a good discussion on the notion of 'quality' here, especially in the comments.
http://fashion-incubator.com/archi/the-difference-between-crap-and-ality/
http://fashion-incubator.com/archi/pop-quiz-quality-versus-crap-pt-
http://fashion-incubator.com/archi/pop-quiz-quality-versus-crap/

>>6616459
I own three petticoats from Classical Puppets - the bell shape, the a-line and one of their 'daily a-line' ones. Personally I like the A-line the best for sheer amount of poof, the bell shaped is good under light dresses but has some issues under velvet (so I layer the A-line one underneath it) but overall, very good pettis. I (incidentally) ended up climbing a few fences chasing after escaped chickens this morning wearing the exact petti pictured in the photo, and although I caught it a couple of times on the fence it doesn't seem to have suffered at all.

>>6616466
Have a look at some Emily Temple Cute stuff - it has cute prints but is often more A-line/less fluffy

>>6616471
sure, I think the subjective 'ness' comes from people who have never actually seen true quality garments (obviously my opinion) and construction work.

>>6616489
Did you read the posts? I mean, obviously brand quality is not going to compare to some of the items produced at a higher price point, in the same way that a disposable paper gown is not produced to the same standards as a higher-priced wedding dress. It seems pointless to compare garments at different price points since they're aimed at different markets and when someone is willing to pay more, you can put more effort/time into it. If you compared a lolita brand dress to something of similar price - say, a Jesus Diamante dress, it probably comes out fairly favourably and is comparable to the other brand, but if you're going to compare it to couture then of course it'll look like a piece of shit. I don't agree with people rabbiting on about how brand="couture quality" - if someone says that, they're talking out their arses and have never seen haute couture or even a high end designer label garment, but in terms of its quality for the price level that it's at (i.e. value), I think it's favourably comparable to other items of similar price.

>>6616284
Me too. While I dont mind replicas, bodyline or anything like that, it seems like a waste when you compare it to brand. Especially when they stop being so cheap. If there was a good seamstress who could buy the oojia fabric and make good stuff it would be more desirable, but otherwise I rather just not get it.

>>6616511
My point was only against those people who speak about brand items as 'omg wtf creaming panties' awesome. I did not say they were crap, only that they are not as high quality as some people make them out to believe, simply for the fact that I have been around designer fabrics in the past. I have not read the posts, but sure I will take the time when I get to work. Even comparing to Liberty of London (mid-tier garment quality printed cottons) they don't measure up quite as well as I had hoped. I think you mistook my point for trying to compare lolita brand to high tier fashion, which I can understand was mis-communicated. I was simply stating that people who tout the quality of brand garment fabrics probably don't know exactly what high quality garments look like. I'll take a look at your posts in a bit, on the phone heh.

>>6616517
side-note I think people think that the price tag for brand is mostly for quality. When in fact it is the overhead for tea parties, marketing, employees, overseas stores, etc. All the things a business needs to use to grow and keep producing. I guess that was an indirect point: You're paying these prices to keep your favorite brands in business, not necessarily for some kind of outstanding quality materials and construction.

>>6616517
That's true, but at the same time the quality and construction are typical for the price point, so while people who think brand is great probably don't wear real high-end designer, at the same time, even if they didn't buy brand they would not be able to afford the real high-end stuff anyway. The clothing they would be able to afford, if they were not buying lolita, would be of similar quality and construction. Ergo, while no, they don't know real high quality is, it's not like they'd know or wear it anyway. Most people can't afford that.

Can anyone give me some names of Brands with prices that are less than/around $100? Pretty new to this so I always assumed prices went like Bodyline ->Replicas -> $300 brand

So far I've got Infanta and Kidsyoyo. Help?

>>6617648
only really popular dresses would cost you $300... If you go on egl you can easily get a jsk for around $150
also just look around at taobao shops

>>6617648

Just look around.
Some of not so popular pieces will go for very little on EGL, you don't have to get the all popular prints as there are also other nice things out there.
Also, the japanese 2ndhandshops like fururun, closet child, etc.
Auctions like Mbok, Yahoo! auctions.
Taobao has lots of shops beside Infanta (beware!!! runs small! usually by 5 to 8 cm) and Kidsyoyo.
Chess Story, Magic Tea Party, Dream of Lolita, 69th Department, Surface Spell, are just a few shops you should check out.

>>6617658
>>6617676
>Just look around

I think the reason that this person is asking is because they already looked around and found nothing. I have the same problem: everyone seems to get good search results except for me.

What say we help this anon out?

>>6617676
Well, I'm >>6617749
My mistake. Seems like you've already done that.

How much does older Meta dresses go for? It's my first time buying brand, so I hope to make a good buy.
>pic related
Also, does anyone have pictures of it worn? Google only shows me pictures of other melody dresses.

>>6617769
Not too much, but finding it will be your real problem. Specific Meta pieces are notoriously hard to find secondhand.

>>6617773
>>6617769
Agreed! People just don't let go of their Meta it seems! Best of luck anon.

>>6617648

Taobao:
Krad Lanrete - http://shop57531905.taobao.com/
Kidsyoyo - http://kidsyoyo.taobao.com/
Chess Story - http://chess-story.taobao.com/
Surface Spell - http://surfacespell.taobao.com/
Miss Point - http://miss-point.taobao.com
Elpress L - http://shop57826848.taobao.com/
HMHM - http://hmhmtt.taobao.com
R-Series - http://r-series.taobao.com
Lethe's Castle - http://ab1t.taobao.com/
Ladylike Melody - http://ladylikemelody.taobao.com

With second-hand brand, it's going to take research to understand the market and what items are or aren't going to be available in your price range. For instance, Innocent World can often be well-priced for items that appeared in lucky packs, although other pieces will command a higher price. Some non-print Angelic Pretty will go for cheap, but not all, while certain prints are a relatively good value compared to others, based on current trends. I recommend looking through past EGL sales comm posts and also browsing mbok & YahooJapan to get a feel for what might be available in your price range (for auctions, I like to bookmark and see what they ended at, since the price can shoot up if there's a last-minute bidding war). Building up a lolita wardrobe takes both time and money, and the less money you have, the more time it will take!

>>6617872
>>6617749
>>6617676
Thanks guys! These are all brilliant.

>>6617769
I'm thinking of selling the black version because it doesn't suit me (it's too big)....but sorry, no worn pics since I am on my phone

>>6617881
I regret asking now... here goes all of my money.

>>6616284
My issue with replicas is that they're a rip-off! $100 for a dress that isn't even decent quality or an original design? Fuck that! I can get something of really nice quality for half the price on taobao. This might seem harsh but I really think replicas are for noobs or print-of-the-month sheep in the vast majority of cases. What on earth is the appeal?

I mean i don't even give a stuff about the morality of it, they just seem to always be such nasty, cheap-looking dresses.

I didn't want to make a new thread, so.

This dress:

http://www.milanoo.com/Classic-Sque-Neck-Terry-Lolita-Jumper-Skirt-18080.html

It says under the pictures:
>[ Infanta Authorized ]

Does this mean it is from Infanta? And Milanoo didn't rip them off? Is Milanoo getting better or something? They even have videos of their stuff now, and some of it doesn't seem half bad.

>>6618187

They are reselling.
With a big mark-up.

>>6618235

I bought it and some other things, and I got a free petticoat. It was $20 shipping. I kind of feel like it was cheaper than Taobao because of the fees and shipping, TBH.

I got all this:
http://www.milanoo.com/Classic-Sque-Neck-Terry-Lolita-Jumper-Skirt-18080.html
http://www.milanoo.com/Classic-Thr-Flowers-Decorated-Cotton-Lolita-ir-Tie-p255740.html
http://www.milanoo.com/Sweet-Brownong-Curly-Lolita-Faux-Wig-p199326tml
http://www.milanoo.com/Classic-Whi-Voile-Womens-Lolita-Crinolette-p6552.html

For about $100 (that is including the $20 shipping), so I here's crossing my fingers that it turns out well. I couldn't turn it down because a free petticoat is a good deal and the shipping wasn't ridiculously expensive.

How long does it take for clobba to finish their pre-order on shoes?

>>6614336
Oh, also the BL dress is missing the underskirt portion, and good subs?

>>6605653
Cadney is 5'7"

http://cadney.tumblr.com/post/417941002/hi-first-i-love-your-lolitautfits-im-sorry

>>6618317
I'm taller. I am so screwed.

>>6618292
it depends on how popular the pre-order is, how many colors offered, specialty sizes, and any factory screwups.

>>6618259
lmao good luck with that free petticoat. it's gonna be a single layer of shitty tulle on a skirt

>>6618376

The reviews seem pretty decent.

Here's a picture someone posted.

I'll post it on /cgl/ when it arrives though, I'm mostly worried about the wig TBH.

>>6618292
I'm wondering the same thing. Just joined the group order for VM replica boots (that should have closed ten days ago?) and Martin said they wouldn't be ready any time soon. Wondering if that means more than 2 - 3 months?

>>6617774
>>6617773
Thanks! She was selling it for $90, so I guess it a good deal? Honestly I have no idea, but I'm think I will just get it anyways.

>>6618292
>>6618541
They had a pre-order for a pair of boots based on the open-front buckle boots AatP did. That was over a year and a half ago. Still no boots.

The VM replica boots are more popular, though. They've already done one run, so the next one shouldn't be too far away.

Does anyone know how long it takes Innocent World to ship once you've paid your invoice?

>>6618743
My experience was up to a week, but my order was during the holiday when they were swamped, so I'd think usually less?

I bought a rpincess sleeve blouse on Btssb's online store and got an email to wait for my invoice at least seven working days, its been more than that and I'm starting to get worried, I don't want to get banned for not paying an invoice that I haven't received.
Is this normal?
Should I contact them or wait longer?

>>6618982
It's a three day weekend anon, they will probably email you tomorrow.

Hello, Seagulls!

I have a little brother and he absolutely loves lolita, but doesn't want to become what you would call a 'brolita' (guys in dresses). He is, however, interested in "boy style". Please post some inspiring pictures and advice. Links would be great, too. Many thanks in advance!

>>6619774
Looks like you want this thread: >>6618785

This one appears to be in autosage anyway.

>>6619779
Yeah, haha. Major derp on my part.

Thank you very much!