/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Is /cgl/ just full of rich people who can actually afford this shit? That explains so much about /cgl/.

>>6606486
I certainly have noticed a lot of people who talk about it as if it's free.
Personally there are a hundred different things I'd like to change about my face (see:everything) but it just isn't a realistic goal when you take costs into consideration, especially in the UK.

Enjo kosai until $$$.

Requesting that helpful screenshot of said discussion.

>>6606486
I have very little money. In fact, I'm in debt now and only making $400 a month. I still live with my parents, so I'm trying to get a second job while going to school part time (already have a BA but not all prereqs for my masters program).

I'm saving up as much as I can once I pay off my debt. If I get the job in hoping for, I'll have enough money by spring next year.

I could also get a loan for it

There are a lot of things I want done, and when I say a lot I mean a lot. Like, I want nearly everything done.
However, everything I want is very minor. So I'd get a lot of really small changes, only people who really spend a lot of time with me would notice a difference.

I want my cheeks done, fat taken out and an implant to make my cheek bones higher. However taking the fat out might be enough.
I want my nose done, just a few MM shaved off the top and sides.
I want my hairline lowered, and evened out more. As well as some bosley hair restoration to make my baby hairs not exist anymore.
I possibly want my eyebrows raised, this one I'm not sure though.

I want full body lipo with tucks to match if needed, a breast augmentation, rib removal, leg lengthening, full body hair removal, and facial lasering to get rid of scaring. I want my teeth to be fully redone, new shape, new color, veneers over each one of them.
And obviously fillers and botox for life to keep up my plastic appearance.

Jesus christ..

I thought I had self image issues

>>6606494
>Rib Removal
Why.

>>6606492
Wait you're going to take out a loan to get plastic surgery?

>>6606501
She said she could.
That said though, if it makes her happy and feel better about herself then why not?

>>6606499
I want to have a waist smaller than 20 inches. I think it would be very interesting looking with how wide my hips are. When I'm at my lowest weight I have a 21 inch waist, and I don't think I can get it smaller naturally.

>>6606501
or put a fraction of it on a credit card. There's only a small time frame in which I'll be able to not go to school and work for a month to recover. I should have over half my expenses for it covered by then, but if I'm short 2k or something, credit card? I guess i meant I'd use my card and not a loan, really.

>>6606506
Plastic sisters ~

>>6606494
this is pretty much what i want, as well, minus altering my brows and teeth.

>>6606499
makes your waist smaller

>>6606504
Because that's insane? She says she still lives with her parents and instead of taking out a loan for rent for an apartment, she is going to use it get cosmetic surgery.

Maybe you're not depressed because you're ugly. Maybe you're depressed because you still live with your parents and your life is a mess.

>>6606511
Maybe it's not your life or your choice to make? I can understand the "wtf" mentality, but to go so far and say
>Maybe you're not depressed because you're ugly. Maybe you're depressed because you still live with your parents and your life is a mess.
Like that's just rude.

>get implants
>get popular and famous
>sell prints to idiot fanboys

worth it

>>6606511
I'm not depressed, and I don't think I'm ugly. I just want to do this first, while I'm still young, and before I sink into an incredibly amount of debt getting my masters. I also wouldn't consider my life a mess.

To keep in on topic, I really only know of cosplayers who have had breast augmentation like Yaya and Vampy. People were saying JNig got it done?

>>6606513
wtf? She just posted it on a public board, im pretty sure people can comment whatever they want to it. or sorry i suppose everyones meant to be unquestionably supportive to each other here? lol

>>6606525
You don't have to support it, but you could have worded your concerns better. There is a way of saying "I don't agree with your life choices" that isn't
>you're ugly and the reason you're depressed is because your life's a mess

I'm in college and I live with my parents so I'll see if I can get a job this year and fulfill every single one of my plastic surgery dreams.

I'll be getting either a $1400 salary or a $4000 one if I'm extra lucky, so living with my parents and having nothing to pay it'll be easy to get everything done this year.

>>6606511
What are personal choices?

I am far from being a photoshop wizard, but this is what I desperately need done once I have saved up enough.. I'm not even sure how to go about getting it though. There's not a whole lot I can do with that void where my chin was meant to be.
I think surgery is fine as long as you're only getting it done to fix massive physical deformities. If you're on your 500th surgery at age 72 still trying to look 16 there is a huge problem. People also shouldn't deny it, it makes them look stupid.

>>6606518
People accuse most cosplayers of it sooner or later, it seems. Probably a result of photoshop abuse more than actual surgery.
The ones that deny even photoshopping their photos are fucking turbo-dumb though.

>>6606514
She's so ugly. She would be nothing without those boobs

>>6606528
I feel you, anon. After I take a couple more courses (so by April), I will be making $30,000 a year. There are over 15 positions hiring for this in my immediate area. I know it's not much, but it's the certification I'll be putting into use while I'm getting my masters.

I also rather go and get my surgery done THEN move out. It's not like I'll be living with my parents for even two more years, especially since I'll be having to move 5+ hours away next fall for school.

>>6606532
I'm no surgeon, but all you would need is tip plasty on your nose, right? That's a lot less expensive than rhinoplasty in general, I believe. You can get fat injections in your chin rather than some foreign implant. What did you change with your lips?

>If ya wanna do it go ahead
>Yaya-han is the obvious one to go for here, but personally I think there is a point where some people go way overboard--her boobs are far beyond that point
>If you've obviously had work done its silly to blame it on photoshop--either way you're admitting its fake, at least one's a more permanent fix
>I'd have to admit to it
Only thing I'd do PS for is to make the right side of my face actually look like the left. And as I basically have 2 entirely different facial structures from one side to the other, it would be pretty damn obvious I changed that shit

>>6606537
Eh, I want the whole top shaved down as well. The thing is just an all around abortion and shouldn't even vaguely resemble its former self by the time it's done.
In the edit I didn't change anything with my lips / chin, just poor cropping. I think silicon injections or something, to make it look like I actually have lips would work though. I'm not much of an expert.

>>6606534
Probably easier to have your parents around for support and whatnot. Out of interest, how do your (those who are interested in getting surgery) parents feel about surgery?

It would suck if you spent all that money on plastic surgery and didn't like the results.

>>6606547
That's probably one of the biggest negatives of plastic surgery for me. Sure they can photoshop a picture that MIGHT be the end result, but the idea of the surgery going awry or the new nose/whatever clashing with the rest of your features is definitely making me cautious in regards to plastic surgery.

>>6606548
Hm, that might get a little costly, then! A lot of people get nose jobs, and it looks like you dont' want to drastically change the shape of your nose but just make it smaller and more, I dunno, streamlined?

I haven't told my parents that I'm planning on it yet, but I found out about a year ago that my mom had something done. She still has a pretty weak jaw, but apparently it was WAY worse before.

I have perpetual eye bags and have been trying to get rid of them since I was in middle school. My mom has been helping me and has bought me eye creams and such to reduce the puffiness. They don't work, so she said once that she guesses my only option is PS. Not sure if she was joking or not.

>>6606555
Yeah. I'll probably be paying it off for the rest of my life but it's better than having people stare and laugh at my face. I'd really just like my nose to look a little more human..
Sounds like your mother's pretty supportive of it then, which probably makes life considerably easier!

>>6606548
>how do your parents feel about surgery?

I live only with my mom and she's totally cool with it and plans on getting a few things done herself.
I'm so glad for that. It would suck if she saw things different from me but we just tend to have the same opinions.

>>6606560
Yeah, I'm sure she won't care about me getting my eye bags fixed, especially since the estimate I got was max $2000. That's something I can save up for in no time. The bit I want to change about my nose might be less cool for my parents, so I'm not sure I'm going to tell them about it. I'm on the fence, though, because my nose really doesn't look bad from the side, or really even from 3/4 view, but it often looks horrid from face on pictures. It's what makes what I want done so costly. The other procedure I want was also estimated at max $2000.

How do your parents feel about your nosejob? And honestly, your nose doesn't look bad. I didn't even see why you want the top shaved!

>>6606564
What do you want done, anon?

>>6606574
2k isn't bad at all. What do they actually do in eye-bag fixing? It's not something I've ever looked into in great detail.
My mother is supportive. My sister had surgery when she was even younger than me, so she can't really allow one child and not the other. I haven't been brave enough to tell my father. He's the sort of man who LOATHES the idea of cosmetics.
It really, really does. The thing is a blight on my face- though I guess it runs in the same vein of "every artist is their own worst critic". Might I ask what it is you want done with yours/ think is wrong with it?

Anything to fix my weak jaw. I love the rest of my face, but I can't stand how my profile looks from the side. I just want more definition so there is a border between my face and my neck. Even when I was younger and below what was healthy for my weight, I just didn't have much of a chin or jaw. Now that I'm average in weight and in my mid-twenties its something I hate about myself every day.

I suppose in my thirties I wouldn't mind a face lift either, not a mega one- just enough to keep the droop away and look good for my age.

>>6606581
It depends. Usually it's just getting rid of the fat deposits under your eyes. It can also be repositioning that fat so your eyes don't have a bit of hollowness that a lot of eye bags have.

As far as my nose, the tip is just bulbous... I might also get it thinned overall. Its wider than average

Ah, my dad is the same way. What did your sister get done?

>>6606594
Boob job. Nothing obscene, she got them to Cs but it gave her a lot more confidence, and she seems to lead a happy, normal life.
Dads, man. If he was supportive it'd be a lot easier. Problem is I inherited that nose from him so he'll probably take it personally.

>>6606586
>its something I hate about myself every day.
I feel you.

>>6606600
Ah! I got my nose from my dad, too. Along with my awkward cheeks...

To be honest, I'm usually happy with the way I look in the mirror. Its only seeing pictures of myself that saddens me.

Oh, and do you mind your nose from face on or just other angles like profile and 3/4th?

>>6606606
It's not AS bad from face on, but it's not acceptable either. Really you can only determine the sheer size from a profile though.
I haven't been in a photo in about 6 years (aside from that one I took just now). It seems people are either naturally photogenic and look great, or they look absolute shit in photos. Dreadfully unfair.

>just recovered from a facial reconstruction this December
>Sort of a Christmas present to myself.
>always hated my nose, it had a huge bump right on the bridge.
>Doctor suggests other procedures to enhance the overall result.
>Get nosejob, chin implant & cheek extraction
>Recovery not painful
>Feel much better about self
>Regret nothing
Ask Anything

>>6606783
how much did things cost and where'd you get it done?

how long before you looked normal enough to go to work and such?

>>6606791
Total for all three procedures was $1000 + hospital services
Got the surgery done in a private hospital in Mexico
Its been 2 months and I feel I look normal enough, first month I still looked a tad swollen; however, the doctor said one must wait 6 months for a "complete" recovery

>>6606783
how much did it cost overall and where did you get your work done?

>>6606803
$1000 USD? Do you mean $10,000?

>>6606803
No way, a nosejob here already costs $3000, you must've gone to some shitty high risk surgeon.

>>6606532
I do not wish to offend, but judguing by the picture of your profile I think a mentoplasty would suit you better

>>6606820
No, I mean $1000 USD
>>6606825
The surgeon was certified and is also the owner of the hospital, guess I should've mentioned how he charged me less because my dad is a doctor too.

I want to get my lips done and a small nose fix to make my right nose wing resemble my left, I don't even know if that is possible though since it wouldn't involve shaving bone or put fillers in and shit.

>>6606829
Oh, wow. I don't even know what to say. I mean, I want to save money on my ps, but I don't think I'd want to risk going to Mexico, personally. I'm sure there are plenty of great surgeons there, but I wouldn't know how to find one. Are you okay showing before and afters or no? I understand if you don't want to post your face on /cgl/

>>6606833
She could block out her eyes

>>6606833
I wouldn't mind, personally I think he did a nice job but I don't have them atm, Ill post when I get home.

>>6606841
I'm pretty curious. I mean, if you're happy with it, I'm really happy for you, too! Getting all that done for only 1k and having it turn out well? That's beyond lucky.

>>6606835
Nose wing? Like your nostril? They make those even all the time. I'm not sure exactly what they do, but I've seen befores and afters where surgeons correct that kind of asymmetry.

>>6606835
Oh, I just googled it. Wing is apparently the same thing as alar? And yeah, they do a lot of alar reductions for people who have a wide nose, so I don't see why they couldn't just reduce/whatever one side or something.

>>6606494
>Everything I want is very minor
...
I hope you realise it really is not. Even getting your cheeks done makes a dramatic difference to the way you look.

rhinoplasty
jaw/chin implant
lip augmentation
breast implants - from small B's to DD. probably wouldn't look that unnatural because i'm 5"9
liposuction
brazillian butt lift
cankle surgery. seen girls 100+ pounds heavier than me with smaller ankles

>>6606896
I think that person was trolling. Rib removal is dramatic, and everyone knows that.

>>6606901
Some seagull before was saying she wanted lipo on her ankles. Even her doctor said she had unusual fat deposits there, since she's thin, but can't find a surgeon to do it for her or something. I've seen korean places advertising lipo for the ankles specifically.

One of my eyes is slightly droopier than the other. The eyebrow on that eye is lower as well. I can usually hide it with my bangs and not wearing much makeup on my lids, but it gets to me some times. I would also like some jaw shaving to make my face lees square. Maybe I've just been looking at too many post-op korean idols lately... In comparison their faces make mine look square as fuh.

>>6606907
I realise the last bit was a troll, rib removal is illegal, not just dramatic. I was talking about the first examples, like cheeks as I had mentioned

>>6606922
Ah, okay, I didn't realize. But I also think that getting several small/subtle surgeries together will produce a bigger difference at once and make it look drastic. Like, I know if I got rid of my eye bags only, I doubt a lot of people would know exactly what I changed. Even if I just made my nose thinner, I don't think people would notice right away that I got rhinoplasty. But if I changed my jaw, eye bags, and made my nose thinner all at once, I'm sure people would know that I went and got ps.

>>6606825
>>6606820
Not quoted anon, but plastic surgery costs a hell of a lot in the US but not as much in other places.
It's also very rude to assume she just went to a risky shitty doctor.

I'm brazilian and a _good_ doctor here charges about 3 or 4 thousand USD for a nose job.

>>6606935

huehuehuehue gieb plastic i repot u huaehuaehuaheuhauehuaehuhe

>>6606935
Oh I'm so fucking sorry for being rude on fucking FOUR CHAN. Cry moar.

>>6606907
the thing is, it's not fat on my cankles. it's bone and skin and tendon.

>>6606935
>>6606935
I was the one that thought she meant $10,000, because I got consultations from many Korean clinics (which are a lot cheaper than the US as well), and for pretty much the same procedures (rhino, cheek augmentation, and one other 1k procedure) it costs anywhere between $6000 USD to $10,000 USD. 1/10th the price of even Korea was shocking.

>>6606945
Oh god. Well, if it's the actual bone, I'm not sure what to tell you. I know there's a procedure to laser muscles smaller or something that people do for their calves. Bone and tendon though?

I've always wanted cheek implants more than anything else. My face completely lacks shape. Combine that with my nose and I look like a goblin.

>>6606950
Oh god that nose
10/10 would boop

I don't know why you want surgery, you're friggin kawaii.

>>6606950
>>6606954

I agree! you look cute and I think that its much more attractive to have interested features

>>6606907
seagull with the unusual fat deposits on my ankles here. They do that in Korea, really? How would a white girl not in Korea go about finding a surgeon that specializes in this? I really did talk to about five local plastic surgeons and all of them say they aren't comfortable removing abnormal fat deposits on my ankle area because I don't even know why. I hate my ankles every day of my life and if I could get that fixed even the tiniest bit, I'd be so much happier.

I got labiaplasty. Ask meh anything herp

>>6606989
Possibly because they're not skilled enough in that area/they think you can get rid of it yourself. Sometimes people are refused lipo because the amount people want removed is simply too much, or unrealistic.
Korea is like the Kingdom of Plastic Surgery, they are much more advanced than America, iirc. And they're more willing to do shit like lipo too much fat out of your body, because it's ok in Korea.

>>6606989
I was researching Korean calf surgery. Maybe Google that and you might find the same surgeon would do other kinds of work on foreign patients.

Speaking of which, I want calf surgery. Had an otoplasty in the past, but I have freakishly tiny ears now.

I would like to get liposuction for my cursed under-butt.
It's like this extra chunk of fat right beneath my ass, so it looks as if there's no distinction between where my thighs start and where my butt ends. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't go away even if I did lose weight since it was still there when I lost 20 pounds and became 106 Ibs last summer.

Also, have any of you guys tried the butterfly nose-clips that they sell online? They honestly seem to me like a piece of junk, but I would like to hear some of your experiences with it. I'd like to have my nose bridge just a tiny bit higher, because I have a flat asian nose.

>>6606941
>look mom, I'm all grown up, I can even swear and be mean on 4chan

Any ideas for surgery that makes a caucasian girl look more like a kawaii uguu~ asian girl?
(I have big eyes and a heartshaped face.)
I can't be the only one who secretly wants this.

>>6607051
Get your face flattened.

>>6607051
Flatten your face and nose.

And no, you are definitely not the only one. I have the same goal and the first thing I intent to do is get a flatter nose.

>>6607075
is there anything besides your nose you can flatten?
And the cute eyes, can you do anything to have your eyes more almond/slanting? I have more of a deer-eyed look right now.

>>6607051
Uh.. make your face flatter overall? More asian nose?

>>6606989
Try looking at BK and Grand?

>>6607051
On this note, does anyone have photos of before and afters of white girls who got surgery to look asian?

There's horrors like catman and the Bride of Wildenstein. Someone in this world must have attempted to look more asian, I'm really curious about how that turns out.

>>6606803
wut
a nose job alone is 3,000 plus hospital stuff here in Mexico I got a nose job too.

>>6607080
Hmm, I'm not sure.
There probably is something to make the eyes more that shape since even some asians don't have them and get through surgery. Fat "implants" on the cheek area are probably good too.

I'm going to a clinic soon to ask them what procedures can be made to achieve that but as of now I'm only sure about the nose part.

>>6607087
Someone posted one of those once, it actually turned out real nice.

>>6607096
She said her father was a doctor and she got a discount because of that.

>>6607100
OH, get love band surgery. If you guys can show me pictures of your eyes, I can try to figure out what you can do. A lot of asians have unsymmetrical folds, and surgeons often do surgery to make one fold lower and one higher, for example, so if you have high folds or something, it can help? You can also get a fat graft on your eyelid to make it less hollow like a lot of white people.

>>6606950
rather than getting cheek implants you could contour your face by getting a lower cheek extraction, its a really simple procedure and you heal really fast, you don't even get stitches

I see that we are talking about eyebags now and I posted in the eyecare thread a while back! I have uneven eyebags (or a double eyebag?) :c I like my left eye but HATEEE my right eye so much, it makes me look so tired. Makeup doesn't help at all because when I smile, the eyebag just pops out and creates a giant shadow... I really want to get surgery done for it because I know that no eye cream can help me with this. I just don't know where to start, what it's called, or if I can even get it done in America. If someone can just direct me with the medical term for it I can do the research myself... thanks! fugly pic related is definitely me

Jessica Nigri recently got a boobjob.


Of course no one saw that coming.

>>6607120
This is true, but be careful, because you need that fat as you get older. I can't tell properly with your picture, but my cheeks look like they're chubbier than yours. I asked many surgeons about buccal fat reduction and facial lipo, and they said it might hollow out my cheeks way too much when I'm older. I looked up reviews for buccal fat pad reduction, and almost everyone regrets it, because doctors take too much out or make it uneven. Facial lipo is a lot better than buccal fat reduction though. I think facial lipo is more like a face lift of sorts.

At the same time, cheek implants can be uneven. If they use analogous tissue, like your own fat, it can end up lumpy.

Pic unrelated.

>>6607112
I have very caucasian eyes I think

>>6607131
Ah, yeah. I think I gave you advice before, but I'm not sure you saw it. My eye bags are pretty similar to yours. The cream actually works on one eye but not the other, too...

You can get lower blethroplasty. I think I spelled that correctly. You can get it in America. I believe the average cost is like $3,000 here? In Korea, it costs anywhere from $1,500 to $2,000. You can also just get the fat (which is make your eye bags all puffy like that) re-positioned. It looks like you have a bit of a hollow underneath them.

I think you actually have love bands (aegyosal) with one eye having an eye bag underneath.

You have pretty eyes, though.

>>6607142
Without surgery, wear dark circle lenses. Brown preferably. Thicken your eyebrows. Your eyes don't look asian because your folds don't start where asian folds do, but I think that if you flatten your bridge, you'll look a lot more asian. Your folds don't look very large. They're just parallel looking rather than tapered. Asians do get parallel lid surgery, but it's called more unnatural looking than tapered.

>>6607145
I did see it! Thank you very much for the help last time. I guess this time around I am looking for details on the surgery though so thank you :) I'll definitely look into it now. I hate my stupid eyebag and am really insecure about it

>>6607112
I don't think my eyes would look good with love bands.

>a fat graft on your eyelid to make it less hollow
This sounds like a good idea, though.

Funny, though, looking at pictures to post and ask for some general advice, I noticed I used to have "love bands" under my eyes which I don't anymore, and it looks better now. And here I was, convinced that I've only gotten uglier since I turned 18.

>>6607120
Quoted anon here, I'd need implants. My face is very thin.

>>6607148
I feel you. If that's the only cosmetic procedure you want done, I really think you should just get it done in the USA unless you're going to China or South Korea for some reason already. The healing time for lower blepharoplasty (correct way to spell it; i looked it up) is 7-10 days. China can provide good surgery, too, especially for something standard like that.

>>6607135

How much does that chin reduction cost? I've heard the recovery time is very long so I don't know if I could realistically fit it in anyway but I'd like to.

>>6607237
I'm not sure exactly which jaw surgery she got. These are the different types:
http://eng.idhospital.com/face/fac1.php
The prices all differ. I don't know exactly how much that chin reduction cost, but it seems like most jaw stuff is around $8,000. I assume you'd need some bone to be shaved or something, so the cost is likely similar.

>>6607253

Ugh yeah that's gonna be an awful recovery time, goddamnit.

>>6607256
Yeah, I was talking to other people about PS on another forum. Most people don't complain about pain, except one person said their cousin got jaw surgery. Apparently her cousin was in "excruciating pain" for 2 whole months. Not discomfort. Pain.

My eyes get super irritated really easily and get really, really red. I can't really even use moisturizer without it happening, so add all of my face makeup, eye make up, and lenses once in a while and they look fucking awful. My mom has the same problem and her eye veins are big and hard looking. Apparently there's a surgery where they remove the entire layer that has those veins in them, and a clear one grows back. So yeah, want. I'd also like my nose shaved a bit and my jaw straightened, but meh. I hate my bellybutton too but we'll see.

I desperately want my nose fixed. I saved up the dough, but my parents took it from me.

I fucking hate my nose. There's a lot of things I'd love to correct, but the nose is my primary issue. I hate it obsessively, I can't even begin to deal with how shitty it is.

If I ever get the chance again, I'm definitely getting it fixed. Definitely.

>>6606494
>>6606502
The surgeries you want are definitely not minor, wtf. With the waist thing, have you tried waist training? My lowest weight gives me a 23.5" waist (although to be honest, I could probably lose 5 more pounds if I really really worked on it and it might go smaller) which I can cinch to 20" easily, so if you have a 21" waist you could probably get it to 18-19" with a corset, and usually people say with long term waist training that their uncorsetted waist loses at least an inch anyway! That's much less painful/expensive/risky than rib removal. You would definitely want a custom made corset for that though.

Like most Asians I just want rhinoplasty. However, there are too many "against" reasons for me to ever get it done. After working in a hospital, I hate the idea of unnecessary surgery and wouldn't be able to take enough time off work for no-one to know, plus I'd hate it if future kids inherited my nose and didn't know where it'd come from.

>>6607345
areyoume.jpg

Except everyone else in my family has a nice nose.

>>6606826
No, you're right. I did need something done to my chin, I just wasn't sure of the actual term for it. (or if it was possible.)
You think it more necessary than the rhinoplasty / that it would make a bigger improvement?

>>6607368
yeah, my mother and father have decent looking noses but the combination of both lead to misfortune for me and my brother in that department.

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before picture is right about to enter surgery room
after is 2 weeks later so I still looks swollen

provided my grandparents haven't cut me off from their inheritance then I will be spending a part of it on a boob job. I doubt I'll be able to afford it otherwise.

Saggy odd size boobs are the worst thing for confidence. Y ME

>>6607382
What exactly was up with your chin/jaw? I see that you got the chin implant and cheek extraction, but does it look strange just because it's swollen?

>>6607382
your new nose looks great! :)

As you can see one of my eyelids is lower than the other one. My nose in profil is horrible in my opinion, ether it is too straightforward or my eyes are pulled back? There is lots of space between them.
That said, I have a horrible double chin in every picture from this damn baby fat I can't get rid of.
>>6607382
It's great that you feel good about your surgery, though I have to say that your nose looks really fake.

>>6607382
Your nose is a bit too high now.

>>6607449

If you see pictures of other people shortly after their surgery and then 6+ months later the difference is EXTREME, like MUCH bigger of a difference than I expected. I've seen many examples where the shape of the nose ends up being entirely different from how it looks shortly after surgery, always for the better.

>>6607449
Yeah, her nose does look a little fake, but that's because it can take 6 months to a year for things like that to go back to... normal?

I don't see your double chin at all. Are you a good weight? Because some girls gain weight in their face first, so if you even have a little pudge on your stomach, try to get your stomach fat, and your cheeks/chin may go down too? You don't look chubby or fat from your picture, but I can't really tell.

>>6607425
I hear you, everyone always tells me my boobs look great, but they feel too big and make me look fat if I don't keep them pushed all the way up.

also, most all my favorite characters are pretty flat chested, so I have to bind a bit for them...

>>6607431
I dont know how to say it but in the vefore picture my chin to lips to nose ratio was not harmonic
But back then it was the most swollen part of my face

>>6607459
Yeah but still, I would never go to mexico to get surgery. Oh and some breast reduction would be nice, I'm a DD and I wish I was as flat as a board to wear all the loose sweater I wanted
>>6607467
Im 60 kilos at 1'52 I wish I could be 45 but a realistic weight for me would be 54

>>6607493
Try losing a bit of weight and see how your jaw losing some extra fat. I'm 1.57 meters/5'2" and at 52 kilos/115lbs, I had a double chin, slight love handles, etc. At 45 kilos/100lbs, it's a lot better, but still kind of bad. I have an average build. But you might also be like me, unable to get rid of chubbiness around your jawline no matter the weight.

>tfw double chin at 42 kg (93lbs)

>>6607506
WOW, i can't type. Try losing a bit of weight and see how your jaw loses some extra fat*

>>6607382
I think he upturned your nose a bit much, but otherwise it looks decent. Wonder how it'll look after the swelling is gone.

I would actually not mind a nose job myself pic related. It's rather wide at its base and while I know I can get the tip narrowed, I wonder about the nostrils... it's a feature I can deal though with since it's not crooked or bumpy but I've been rather self conscious of it since I've been told from a young age that I have a big nose. I wouldn't mind bigger eyes either...

Otherwise, I'd like a boob lift eventually because I am busty and I know the sag is only going to get worse.

>>6607515
You can get alar base reduction

>>6607382
>bad dimpling around jaw
>nose way too upturned. shit gurl, people can see all the way into your beaner brain
Well folks, lesson as to why you don't get cheap surgery in Mexico

>>6607517
There is so little of a difference...

>>6607539
Really? I think her nose looks realistically thinner. If she went much thinner, it would probably look too fake/photoshopped.

>>6607545
I can't even tell from that picture what part of the nose an "alar base" is because I can't tell what was changed.

I mean, the goal of plastic surgery is to not look like you've had plastic surgery, not to look totally unchanged...

>>6607519
wow, what crawled up your ass and died?
>>6607382
Is your face still swollen? does it hurt when you touch it? What did other people tell you (family, friends, etc) before and after your surgery?

>>6607553
Is this a better example?

I defiantly want liposuction from my calves down. I have a lot of fat there and it looks really bizarre because my feet are small. Once I lose about 15 pounds if it still like that I'm going to seriously consider surgery.

>>6607545
I guess it's because her nose doesn't seem so wide to begin with.

>>6607553
The nostril are less... big. The tip of the nose didn't change just the nostrils (I think.)

I only wonder how odd my nostrils would look with a narrower nose and if the nostrils can be changed to look less awkward is that's the case. It seem so, but I guess I would need a consultation to be sure.

>>6607557
Yes actually. Hmmm...

>>6607382
lol kike, in which city did you get the surgery?
It looks really good btw. These ignorant saying it looks bad, seriously?
It takes like 6 months to see the how it will really look like, her nose will not be that upturned down and the swelling will come down. It will look great.
You look like a different person now. How old are you?

>>6606514
>Those breasts
Holy fuck
I like big tits and even I find them to be moderately repulsive

>>6606950
Nigga you're kawaii

>>6607564
One more picture from the front to help you.

I'd like to have my height increased, but that's not really plastic surgery.

I doubt I'll get it, but it'd still be nice to have another two inches.

Man, all of you guys posting that you want surgery are already beautiful. Even that kawaii as fuck blue haired girl. Your face is the most beautiful of all. How can you want to change yourselves? You were born this way, this is you, that's your face and no one else has it but you. I was always insecure about my nose as I don't have a very defined bridge, it's uber long and large, but it does suit my face. Looking at Lady Gaga, she is so beautiful to me because she doesn't hide anything. She works with what she's got. I used to hate her big nose too, because it reminded me of my own, but her confidence won me over. I couldn't change myself now. I couldn't look in the mirror and know that I'm not the way I was supposed to be. I've grown into my nose also, I've just had to get used to it and learn to love it as it is a feature that is mine and makes me different.
Of course, it is all your choice and if you really think anybody notices that 2mm difference on your nose, or notices a slight increase in your cheek bones or thinks you are less of a woman because you have 10A boobs like me, you're doing it for the wrong reason. My flat chest may prevent me from wearing the sexiest bras, but I've never been turned down because of my lack of chesticles. But if you really can't stand your nose because it isn't like Angelina Jolie's or your chin just doesn't have that point that you think would suit it, don't dive into it. Buy your house, your car, pay off your education first. Plastic surgery should never trump anything in your life. Your beauty is not more important than the roof over your head or your career and education. Just remember that.
/end shitty advice

>>6607557
>>6607584
Ohh, it's just taking the nostrils in. I see now.

Man, there's not a whole lot of work I want done but the things I do want are gonna be either horrendously expensive or downright impossible. One eye's higher than the other, both my lower and upper jaw are uneven, my lower jaw's too small, etc. etc... I don't think it's even possible to fix uneven upper jaw like that. They'd have to break the roof of my mouth or some shit. Implants along one side of my lower jaw would probably be the cheapest procedure.

Why am I such a Quasimodo

>>6606950
I usually think most white girls are cute, but I feel like everyone is just whitenighting you to make you feel better. so have my honest opinion
>the hook nose
>the acne
thats whats killing me about your face.

>>6607591
And I agree with you and all, but if something bothers you and would make you confident, I believe you should go for it. If a girl is bothered by her jaw or huge hawk nose and just thinks about it every day and hates the way she looks, her house and car and education will be nice, sure. Yes, she'll be surrounded by all these beautiful and nice things. But she won't feel beautiful.

I rather go off to work to pay for my house, my car, and finish paying off my student loans after looking at a beautiful face in the mirror. I don't want to go, "oh, here's another day. I can't wait until I pay off all this in a few years so I can finally fix my own face."

Just my opinion.

>>6607598
I do think I've seen people "fix" uneven eyes like that, though I guess it depends on how much higher one is. Not sure what exactly you're describing with your jaw, but you can look here? Maybe someone looks like you?

http://kpsurgery.tumblr.com/taggedaw

>>6607584
Looking at images on google this does seem to be the best bet. I just want a narrow nose~...

>>6607598
It can't be that bad. Most people have slight things in their face that is unsymmetrical (my eyes arch differently and one has more of a hood then the other), hell even most women have unsymmetrical boobs! I do! But they aren't enough to really notice unless you stare. Knew a girl in HS who had one eye that didn't open as much as the other (not a lazy eye I think, just her lid didn't open up) and it was noticeable. I envied her for being confident and popular (she was also skinny, so that may have been it too.)

>>6607591
It's nice you're getting laid

>>6606950
I know someone with a similar face. She's rather pretty. Figure out a better angle, a better hair color, good make up and smile more. It'll work I swear.

>>6607612
This one, mine isn't so extreme but my fucked-up jaw makes my mouth uneven like that. My jawline's fucked up too, one side's higher than the other. If there was a way to fix all of that, I would.

>>6607615
It's super noticeable in face-on pictures where I'm looking either straight forward or up a little, my lower jaw makes my whole face uneven looking. I solve it most of the time by just never tilting my face up too far.

>>6607612
Also some of those after pictures are scary, but damn, it's nice to know it's possible to alter a jawline.

>>6607639
Hey anon I have the same problem as you, I want to ask my dentist to refer to me an orthodontist,
you can fix it but it will be a lot of pain and hurt. Mine isn't as bad as the picture though and when I ask other people about it they say they don't see it and that I'm crazy,
but I swear when I look in the mirror is fucking wonky! My left side is lower than my right side.

>>6607639
I'm pretty certain someone can fix it for you. The cost of the surgeries to make jaws even in Korea starts at $8000, I think. You know, you can email any of the clinics with your picture and what you want to change, and they'll tell you which procedure they'd recommend. Most will give you the cost.

>>6607615
I want to get a liposculpture :(
My cousin just got it, pic related, she looks like a fucking barbie IRL she's 5'8 I'm so jelly :c, she was slimmer than me before getting it than I am now though but fatties have these kind of good results as well, one good thing is that if you get fat, the fat goes to your ass and hips instead of the waist!
As for me I have gotten a nose job already but it barely looks different as I got it more for health issues than cosmetic ones, I'd also like to get DD boobs, I'm a C now.

>>6607467
Not the same anon.

I am rather skinny however I do have about 5kg of unwanted weight around my midsection,
I also have a slight double chin, I try to make it not noticeable by holding my head out and down slightly.

Maybe if I lose that midsection weight I will finally see it on my face.

>>6606513
because we're your personal support group! except wait, nope, we sure as shit aren't.

OP you are out of your mind to take a loan out for plastic surgery at this point

>>6607639
What >>6607647 said about seeing an orthodontist first. My brother also has an awkward jaw that braces didn't entirely fix, but made less noticeable. (Gotta love the fact that guys can pull off that shit better since everyone thinks my brother is super attractive considering he also has a large crooked roman nose.)

Looking at that blog is there a way to make eye look bigger with surgery? I don't have a real hooded eye or a mono-lid so that's not what I care about.

>>6607659
Wear a corset? You can look like that, especially if you're a little chunkier.

>>6607665
Yeah, seriously try losing a little weight. Losing 5kg made my double chin mostly disappear and my cheeks shrank a lot in size. Also, make sure not to consume so much salt. It makes you hold a lot more water and can make your face bigger.

a good rule to follow is to wait until you're about 24-25 years old and see if you still want the procedure. If I would of followed through with everything I wanted when I was younger, good lord..

>>6607647
>>6607653
Eight grand, fuck, someone get me a fainting couch... well, I knew that would be a long-term goal anyway.

Honestly though, if they could just raise that one corner of my mouth, I wouldn't give a crap about my upper jaw being uneven. It's only noticeable if I do a slasher-style grin and someone's specifically looking for it (or if someone looks at my upper retainer, haha). Lower jaw though, that's my dream surgery.

I used to want my ears pinned back too, but I think I've come to terms with having elf ears.

>>6607676
Lateral canthoplasty which is cutting the outside of your eyes. The opposite of this is epicanthoplasty, but that's only for asian eyes, really.

>>6607677
I don't think of myself as fat but by cgl standards I probably am, I'm 5'6 and I weigh 130lbs ;-;
Yeah i want to get into corsets and stuff but I'd like to look like she does all the time.

>>6606532
I think your nose looks just fine. It is your chin that could use an implant.

"This is an example of reconstructed nose after filler induced necrosis. First photograph showing necrosis of nose after filler injection. Second one is of scarred nose after completely healed necrosis. Third photograph showing reconstructed nose."

Well, then... Warning, filler injections can cause necrosis? At least they can also fix it.

>>6607738
Another botched job that got fixed. Yeah, kind of really scared to get my nose done, now.

Has anyone else got a dimply butt chin? Between that and my nose, my face is awful.

>>6607690
I was super interested in this because my eyes are very small although "pretty". I just want the opening to be bigger but do you think it would be weird if all of my eye is already visible?

Like there is no white part hiding under my eyelid it would be more tissue.

>surgeries
above? for my eyes
full teeth fixed
thinner calves
breast lift
something to fix the side of my face with a flat cheek

>>6607752
Hmm, sounds like you should consult a surgeon about that. Like I said, you can email them and they'll give you an online consultation.

>>6607748
contracted nose. How does this even happen?

I used to really hate the way I looked, but getting braces in middle school through high school practically reshaped my entire facial structure. And even though I'm not a huge fan of my profile because my cheeks kinda hide my pretty cheekbones and my nose is strong, I've learned to be okay with them, mostly because makeup can bring emphasis to my cheekbones and my nose is very "elvish" as my boyfriend puts it, so its not got a knot in the bridge or anything, it's just a strong nose instead of a little button nose.
If I were to get anything done now, I'd get the neck area tightened. Grabbed a pic from google; it's what I want to have done. I hate it because it's like an extra flap of skin for no reason, and I feel like it ruins my profile more than anything else on my face. From the front I like how I look, but my profile just makes me sad.

Now for staying on topic, I'd have to be honest if someone asked while I was in cosplay. I don't feel like people should be embarrassed about having work done. However, I'm also not going to shove it in people's faces if I had work done, because most people probably wouldn't give a shit.

I don't even know how I would write a list since I pretty much hate everything about myself and would want to change a lot. My family has no money and I have no job so it's something I can only think about. I don't really allow photos of myself to be taken because of how I look so lots of people wouldn't know.
There's a big bump on my nose so I would want that shaved and my chin is too long or square so I would get that fixed. I find Asian faces aesthetically pleasing so I guess a flatter face that people are suggesting here would be good. My hips/waist are uneven which makes me look deformed but that might not be a cosmetic issue.
I just want to be a different person really. There's too much to change and I'll never be happy with just one adjustment. I'll probably off myself before I get enough money for anything.

>>6607314
That's just awful. Why did they take it?

Questions:

Do most plastic surgeons understand if you want natural looking results? Like, instead of having barbie features/Dolly Parton features?

Also, HOW DO YOU FUCKING PAY FOR THIS SHIT?!

>>6607051

Sorry to burst your bubble but making your eyes "Asian looking(adding of an epicanthic fold)" is not only incredibly risky but according to surgeons an atypical procedure most surgeons would advise against. I could not find a single person who thought it would be a good idea. All surgeons said the result would not be natural and
the surgery not safe

And seeing as you're young don't you think this sudden desire to look Asian will pass and you'll feel foolish for ever wanting to change you appearance so much?

>>6607576
Haters gonna hate
I got it in Nuevo Laredo, I'm 21
>>6607555
yes it is still a bit swollen but I still like it. They've told me I look younger, and slimmer.
>>6607515
Its not as upturned anymore, I'd suggest a nosejob to nayone who feels self-conscious about their nose since an early age

>>6607803
Yes.

A job and saving up money.

>>6607810
Forgot to add the surgery "fixed" other minor issues i had with my face including my natural horse smile and expresion lines

>>6607803
>>HOW DO YOU FUCKING PAY FOR THIS SHIT?!
I looked up "rhinoplasty" on tumblr. I unsurprisingly got links to sugar babies. You know, girls with sugar daddies? A lot of them seem to get at least 5k a month allowance and some help for their plastic surgery.

Personally, I would feel really shitty asking my parents or boyfriend for help unless they were loaded. Or unless it was medical in some way or a deformity like cleft palate, then I would have asked at a young age from my parents. In the end, I'm just going to save. I need about 10k for everything including room and board at the hotel and transportation costs. I should be able to save 1.5k a month beginning in May if I don't buy food outside or spend anything on taobao.

However, for people getting jaw surgery and stuff, I think they can sometimes get insurance to cover it. Same with medical things. I don't know how people pay for breast augmentation AND rhinoplasty, though because those are both very expensive.

>>Do most plastic surgeons understand if you want natural looking results?

Definitely. But you should tell them this anyway. Tell them you want to look like yourself but better.

>>6607803
Yes. I think it's more a matter of telling them what you want.

I also think some places allow for payment plans so that you can pay it off in chunks.

>>6607810
Well I can't afford it right now (still in school) and while I don't like my nose I know how to use make up to make other parts of my face look nicer and detract from it.

I am absolutely having it done.
I get mistaken for a guy, a crossdresser, or just called ugly at very least once a month.
I think most of it is my jaw, so I'll have that shaved/reduced. If that doesn't fix it enough I'll get something to make my face a bit fuller (not very common but I've seen it)
Once the basic face shape is done if I have money I'll get the bump in my nose removed and fuller lips, but really I just don't want to be mistaken for a trap/man anymore

As far as admitting to having it done - of course, it will be obvious. I don't see why anyone would deny it, it's pretty hard to cover that up.

>>6607818
how can i get a sugar daddy seriously?
I am really considering it
I want money for surgery, I'd be ok fucking him and sucking his dick and just please him whenever he wanted

If I could afford PS, I'd be all over a nose job. JFC, I have a super bulbous nose and am terrified that it will only get worse as I get older. I'm so jealous of people with nice, tall noses with small tips :(

fucking pic related.
>inb4 acne

>>6607790
If this is your actual photo please do not ruin your beautiful face.

>>6607844
I think you actually look quite cute from the side.

>>6607833
All the money in the world can't fix the inside. What in the world is wrong with finding somebody you love who'd be your sugar daddy? There are plenty of sweet guys who'd treat you like a princess, don't just whore yourself out for surgery, that's practically prostitution.

>>6607844
I'd say you were damn cute
but then I feel like a creep for some odd reason

>>6607844
bulbous nose what? gonna need a front-facing pic to decide, because otherwise your nose is the kind i'd be trying to get when having rhinoplasty

So, my nose looks like some weird blend of the Olsen twins' and Elle Fanning's. I really want to get it thinned because it's just so harsh and it doesn't match the rest of my face at all. I'm really scared that my nose will end up looking fake though, because it's not like they're just shaving down a bump - they're reshaping my entire nose. Every time I make a consultation appt. I freak out and cancel it because I'm so apprehensive. I just turned 19 and I don't want to regret the surgery and live the rest of my life hating myself even more. Does anyone have any advice or experience with thinning a nose? Should I wait a few more years and see how I feel or just go for it?

Pic related, mine is just a bit more narrow and upturned like Elle's. Bleh.

>>6606939
AAHAHAHA fuck you i laughed so hard it hurts

>>6607820
Yup. Some places offer payment plans. I know people were going batshit over the mentioning of loans, but taking out a small personal loan of 2-3 thousand and paying it off quickly would actually show diversity on your credit report and boost your credit, wouldn't it?

There are also medical credit cards.

>>6607826
Wow, I'm sorry to hear that. I know how much it hurts to be called ugly. I've had people close to me call me ugly, and even when they apologized after and said they don't really think I am, things like that just hit you right in the insecurities.

>>6607833
Please just look up the tag "sugar baby" on tumblr. Most of they say where they met their sugar daddies in their FAQs and stuff. I got curious last night and read up about it. Be prepared to invest a lot before scoring a guy. You can't be ugly or fat to begin with. Yes, some girls get their SDs to pay for more surgeries, but the few I've seen pictures of are pretty hot already. You should aim for the kind that are less of a sugar daddy and more of a rich boyfriend who wants to spoil you. Reading the sugar baby tag made me realize that a lot of these girls actually end up in legitimate relationships/marriages with these men, and almost NONE of these girls are vapid, gold digging whores like I thought. Cunning gold diggers is more like it.

>>6607844
I find your nose cute! I like the slope of it. You won't change that though, right?

>>6607020
seconding

>>6607080
Don't ruin your lovely doe- eyes. Most asians are getting double-lid surgery, I'd like my eye's widened, to look more fresh and big and sparkly. It makes you look like a real life anime character!

>>6607858
It's like having a rubber bouncy ball on the end of my nose, totally spherical and too big
>>6607867
I hate that my nose faces upwards (gross piggy nose), I'd want it straight.

I'm definently more insecure about my nose than anything else.

>>6607853
I have no personal experience, but if you're apprehensive about it, just wait! Maybe start saving, and once you have all the money for it, see if you still want to get it. My face changed a lot since I was 18 up until now at 21, so you might want to consider that.

Oh, and my friend got her nose thinned, and while I can definitely see the difference between her passport photos, even her own mother can't tell. I didn't know her before the surgery, but based on all the pics before and how I see her now, her nose is thinner but definitely resembles her old nose entirely.

She's going back to get it done even thinner, though.

>>6607850
No men has ever wanted me, they only want sex from me, I might as well get money from it since I don't enjoy it. are you a male?
I know there are sweet guys but they have never been there for me. I only had sex once, it was awful and the guy didn't want to hear from me after it... so yes maybe that has something to do with my views but can you understand me?
I want to be desired, it seems that only pretty girls are desired.

>>6607844
I think your nose is cute. It looks like mine, and I think mine is cute. Have people/I been lying to myself this whole time about having a cute nose?

>>6607833
Try /soc/ age gap threads.
Worked for me.

I'd like to have my teeth straightened, if it's possible without braces. They're slightly warped but not enough for me to want to wear braces to correct them. Also whitened or capped, if that would keep them white. But I don't think that counts as plastic surgery.

I'm also uncomfortable about my vagina, honestly. I don't want porn-star perfect, but I've got an outtie, as they say... and a more noticeable one, at that. I feel uncomfortable in bed with my partner and when wearing tight pants with thin fabric. I avoid wearing bikini-bottom swimsuits. Perhaps a labia reduction is in my distant future if it continues to bother me.

I'd also like laser hair removal and laser-eye surgery.
If I end up somehow growing larger breasts, I'd also like a breast reduction. My breasts are pretty small, but since I went on birth control, they've gotten larger. But I don't think they'll get any larger unless I gain weight--which I'm trying to do to the opposite, so hopefully I can figure myself out.

>>6607876
Aw, I don't think it's gross, but if it's your personal taste to have it another way, I wont' put you down for it.

To be honest, you look pretty cute! You have nice lips, too.

Alright, here is what I look like now, and below, what I would look with the rhinoplasty and jawline reduction I want.
I am also thinking about some kind of brow lift, so that more of my upper eyelid showed and my eyebrows were higher up.
If I could only afford one of these procedures, what would you guys recommend? Nose or chin?

>>6607887
Holy shit. You are so fucking beautiful. I wish we could trade faces.

I can't see what you would want done to your jaw, and I looooove your nose in profile, but I do think your nose bridge is a little wide from the front. The rhino does make you a little more cute and less beautiful. I prefer the beautiful you to the cute you, though.

>>6607887
There is literally no difference between the two. Being someone who's never met you before, and assuming you made only slight changes, I'd say you're nitpicking.

>>6607898
That's so so sweet of you to say. But I think perhaps my flaws are more noticeable in person, in three dimensions. I have incredibly awkward/non feminine features and have often been told I am unattractive or ugly. I would like to be able to wake up in the morning and feel comfortable with myself, instead of instantly running to the bathroom to try and hide as much of my face as possible.

>>6607876
I think perhaps you unnecessarily self-conscious about your nose. Keep in mind that pretty much no caucasian female likes her nose. It's something we are all quick to find flaws in.

>>6607887
why the fuck would you want an upturned nose? that shit makes you look like a pig.

if you *have* to get a rhinoplasty done, just make them shave a little bit off the bridge so it looks less pronounced.

>>6607876
Your nose is cute. If mine sloped like that I probably wouldn't want the nose job that I do (mindyou if I had a nose like that my ethnicity would probably be questioned...) You seem rather young so wait awhile and consider your other features. As another has said, you've got nice lips and unless you've got wonky eyes, I'm sure your overall face is cute too.

>>6607883
I know that feel. I only get hit on by older and/or awkward guys even though I've been told that I'm pretty. (I would like to think I have 'Jerk Syndrome' but I doubt I'm anywhere near that pretty.) I've never had a boyfriend. I've never even had sex (so you've got that on me anon.) Hell I'd even do lipo, but I should just diet/exercise instead of having an expensive procedure done...

>>6607910
It took me awhile to see it but she shortened her face to be more heart shaped instead of oval and pushed her nose up a bit. But I'm with >>6607898 anon of >>6607887 I don't think you need either done.

>>6607912
It could be more noticeable in person.

I can't believe anyone would tell you that you were ugly or unattractive, though. Maybe you had a bad haircut at the time? If you're concerned about femininity, maybe you should consider your jaw over your nose, though. I don't think it would be imbalanced for you to have a smaller jaw but the same nose. Maybe try shopping just one and seeing if it looks harmonic.

>>6607887
Nose would be cheaper, but I think it depends on if you want to change the outline of your face or your nose the most.

Also I really don't think your eyebrows need to be any higher up, they look fairly high to me already. Without reshaping the top part of your eye sockets, any higher up and your eyebrows are gonna look hella weird...

>>6607918
I've never had a boyfriend either and yes I should probably excercise and eat better too, and as you do I only get hit on by older men, the other day one approached me and offered me money.

I have auxiliary breast tissue under my left arm that I'm considering getting surgically removed in the next couple months. It makes me really self conscious. I haven't been able to wear a tank top or anything showing my arms since I was 15 (basically before I had boobs).

>>6607934
>offered me money.
That I've never had. Mind you I'm currently 25 and get mistaken for 20-ish.

>Men are weird and creepy and I'm going to die alone.

>>6607887
you REALLY have nothing to fix, for some people i think plastic surgery is ok, you need to see a psychiatrist or something, because the problem with your looks is only in your head.

>>6607918
>>6607934
Ladies, do you think all of us get hit on all the time? I don't want to sound conceited, but let me tell you about my experience

I thought guys found me ugly and unattractive. I only had two friends, though I didn't really care. A new friend entered my circle, and he would report to me that so-and-so was talking about how good I look or how another guy wanted a "piece of me." My friends thought it was funny that I never noticed, so they started pointing out guys who were checking me out. At the mall, some guy said he wanted to fuck me right in front of my dad (I was ahead of him).

You might just not notice. None of these guys have ever approached me. The few guys who have confessed to me (like what, 3?) have each done so after YEARS of friendship me. After I graduated high school and left for college, I got a couple of messages on facebook from guys I NEVER spoke to in high school saying they wished they had talked to me.

So don't feel so down, okay? Guys are shy, too.

Sage for my conceited story.

>>6607949
years of friendship with me*

>>6607948
That feel... you are moer fucked that I am though, I'm only 18, I'm also thinking just working in a strip club a couple nights a week.

>>6607949
I have the opposite problem... people have told me so often for my whole life about how attractive I am that now I wonder if people just lie to me for some reason or are over-exaggerating and I just worry about my appearance even more because I feel like I'm trying to live up to this unrealistic expectation and if that anyone sees me in the wrong light or with my makeup not done perfectly they'll think I'm ugly.

Does anyone have picture of FTM jaw surgery of the sort? My face is very feminine and I've been considering getting jawline implants.

I just wish that I can do something about my nose. A nose job would be nice seeing it looks rather inflated, although I have rather small nostrils, and breathing is already a huge problem since this fucker tends to stay blocked and just not being a nose for the majority of the time...

Any seagulls know anyone with originally stuffy noses who saw their quality of breathing improved after a surgery?

>>6607956
I think it probably means that you're approachable and attractive. I know how you feel, though. Everyone has always told me how intelligent I am, so I struggled to become the best at everything academically. I burned out trying to prove everyone right and not let anyone down. Like you, I got paranoid that people were just telling me I was so smart because they had nothing else to say about me.

Please don't get too worked up about it or get plastic surgery because you feel like you have to be perfect for other people. I'm sure you can burn out over looks the same way I burned out over academics.

My parents have never told me I'm beautiful or pretty to my recollection, but they've always told me that I'm smart. It became my identity, and when you create a flawless identity that you have to maintain, you need to realize that there are always flaws, and other people probably don't even notice them.

>>6607962
People get nosejobs to fix breathing problems. You might even be able to get insurance coverage based on that.

>>6607949
I can assure I have considered this, hence the "Jerk Syndrome" concept I mentioned.

>This is a condition that may be experienced by a woman who is so beautiful, so alluring, that any man with half a brain isn't even going to think about asking her out, because it's obvious she's too grand for the likes of him.
>This leads her to believe that the problem is at her end, and that there must be something wrong with her.
>This persists until she meets a man who does not have half a brain (i.e. is too stupid to realize she'll likely reject him, or is so used to rejection that it doesn't bother him, or has some other flaw that stems from an even more major flaw), and he does in fact ask her out, and she is so grateful that she says yes.

The context in which this is described is regarding a very attractive pole dancer who's dating a character who needs a certificate to prove that he is human. (So a very extreme case.) While I don't think I'm anywhere near that, but I do realize that I might not be noticing (as I did have a friend tell me once that some dude at a con was checking me out. Oh and cat calls. They are the worst.) It's just aggravating that any male interaction that I have is... not reassuring at all.

>>6607950
All I can say is start taking care of yourself if you don't already. I didn't realize until well after and I gained the weight back, but my metabolism went through a boost (like it knew puberty was on its last leg and wanted to finish things off) so instead of gaining 15 lbs freshman year of college like the norm I lost about that much. Maybe more. From doing nothing. I've steadily gained the weight back since and now I wish I maintained the weight. (Mind you a size 12 ~140 lbs 5'3-ish so overweight technically, fat by /cgl/ standards, but now I'm about 200 lbs and basically an 18. Working in a chocolate store did not help.

>>6607992
wow, she went from downsy to a kawaii alien.

>>6607992
Her jaw is still crooked

>>6607962
your nose is super cute. please don't change it

>>6608001
Wow, that must be what happens to so many girls. I get told so many times that I always date guys who aren't good enough for me, but they're the only ones that ask me out. I feel like I see the same thing happen to most of my friends. Thanks for explaining that, though.

I also want to say that older men have more confidence, and that's why they ask younger girls out. The only strangers to approach me have always been older men and not even sleazy older men but business men and bankers when I used to eat at nice restaurants downtown. So remember that, too. Older women also hit on men more than younger women hit on men.

>>6608018
You could, ya know, ask guys out on your own instead. Just a thought.

>>6607918
>>6607934
Why don't you go after the guys you're interested in instead of waiting for them to ask you then? If you don't like older/awkward and that's all you're getting, find someone you like. All of my boyfriends including my current one were too fucking shy to say anything and it's kind of an awesome adrenaline hit to be like "I like you. Do you like me too?" to someone and be waiting for the answer (although admittedly shit when being rejected, which has also happened.)

>>6608032
Because clearly this is the thread where all the girls with the self confidence to do that are hanging out.

>Also dumb gender roles that have been ingrained thanks to... a lot of things.
>I grew up with Saved By The Bell
>That should tell you a lot

>>6608039
Please tell me where I can meet a guy who isn't.. weird. Crazy. Awkward in a non-cute way.

Because I know I won't meet them at cons. I've tried online dating sites. While I can hide my power level I am not non-geeky enough for bars. I'm also mid-20's so I'm very much in that "Christmas Cake" territory.

Also the taste I have in men... generally speaking I've found I'm not their taste. (And yes I realize I'm probably making excuses at this point. But honestly you can't tell me dating is remotely an easy or simple thing.)

>>6608032
>>6608039
I asked out the only guy I have ever liked! So far, so good for 4 years.

>>6608051
maybe try letting it just ~happen~ instead of seeking it out? Or does that not happen? I don't know anything. I'm mid 20s also and I'm losing hope, haha.

>>6608064
Oh man I've derailed this thread. But that's the thing. Nothing ever ~happens~. And what's around I can't really.. seek.

I've always been bothered about the wideness of my nose. I like everything else about my face, but having a potato nose really gets to me. It's really flat as well, but makeup makes that less obvious.

I've been seriously considering alarplasty these days. It isn't as 'major' as getting an implant, and I'm looking for something a little more permanent. My parents are really against it though... They're Chinese so they believe that having a wide nose brings you 'luck'. I'll probably sneak away to get something done when I'm older and have enough money.

Does anyone have experience with alarplasty? Advice etc? Thanks.

>>6608081
Your nose doesn't seem super wide, but it looks like your bridge is really flat. Maybe consider getting an implant there instead? I know you said you consider that more of a big deal, but they can use analogous tissue/cartilage, not just silicone and gortex.

And well, I finally have the courage to post myself in this thread.

i have a really messed up jaw/mouth- severe underbite, tongue thrust, mouthbreathing, the works. it's all really fucked up and ugly, but supposedly insurance would cover surgery to realign my jaw, because i have moderate TMJ that causes me pain sometimes. so hopefully the summer in between high school and college i can get my jaw fixed up and not look like a demented simpsons character anymore.
at least i look decent from the front, i guess... but UGH my profile is disgusting.

>>6608102
Fuck man, I have a pretty square face (not manish at all but still square) and had dreamed when I was younger of a surgery that would change my jaw shape like that. Luckily I got through my teenage years and love my flaws now. But man, did I want it BAD when I was like 16.

>>6608039
Clubs - not nightclubs, but like, places where you come together for shared interests in one thing or another. Friends of friends. Get out and meet people. My current boyfriend I knew from an online forum and through another girl I'd met online, despite the fact that we ended up having quite a few acquaintances/friends in common. Heck, ask someone to introduce you to someone - even if it doesn't work out you might meet someone else on the way. Pretty much the only way to meet someone is to get out and meet people. Cons are about the worst places to meet guys, and drunk at a bar is not a good way either. Did you make any moves with the online dating or did you wait for guys to ask you there? Do some browsing yourself and see if there's anyone you like.

>>6607826
god, i know that feel

had the only girl i was ever in love with tell me i was the ugliest girl in our class

i just kind of gave up on being good looking then, devoted myself to being fit

not the worst thing but god i wish i could just have a new face sometimes

>>6607639
yo other than the asymmetry this girl looked way better before

>>6607746
that shit is cute. wish i had that rather than no chin at all

i mean, i'm not chin-chan, but i'm not that far off

>>6608132
Everyone who sees pictures of me that isn't a plastic surgeon always thinks that it's my jaw as well! Not sure if you're implying it's my jawbone, but other people have before. I never thought it was until I webcammed with some strangers from tumblr, and some girl told me my jaw is fucked up. Then I started to wonder if it wasn't just chubby cheeks.

It's actually my cheeks/jowls/whatever. American surgeons have been discouraging me from changing it, even though my right side is clearly puffier and bigger than my left. At first I consulted two American doctors and asked them if it was actually a jaw thing, and they said it definitely isn't. It's subcutaneous fat combined with flat cheeks.

I never even noticed it until I started cosplaying and saw all those pictures of myself.

>>6608102
>>6608102

Thanks for the advice, I have read about ear and rib cartilage implants, but those seem to have complications rather often. I don't want to end up having to do multiple surgeries so I'm not considering that option for now. Contouring helps too, so I'm not too bothered about the flatness (I didn't have makeup on there).

I like your nose! Your chin may need some definition, but I don't think it's that obvious in photos.

This thread is ridiculous. Even the losers on r9k aren't so accepting of something like plastic surgery.

>>6608155
Oh, never mind. Your nose doesn't look flat. I guess the lighting and quality of the picture washed out your face. The other picture made it look like you pretty much didn't have a bridge.

Oh, thanks. It looks a little wide to me at the bridge and then bulbous? And yeah, a few surgeons have recommended I get a chin implant, but it doesn't bother me, haha.

>>6608163
No shit. That's because they're men, so their entire worth isn't their face.

>>6608168

My nose is rather flat, but certain angles+contouring makes it less so. Oh well.
I think with a bit of contouring your nose would look less bulbous, and maybe you could try using some highlighting powder in the middle of your chin to make it more prominent.

>>6608155
I know you, and all I want to say is this gif

>>6608134
>Did you make any moves with the online dating or did you wait for guys to ask you there?
Yes a few actually. I initiated some conversations and some I didn't. None of them went anywhere interesting (doesn't help that a lot of dudes use a 'playing the numbers' system where they just message every girl possible without looking at their profile. I got sick of it.) Believe me I know it takes time and lots of shots in the dark but I'm nobodies first choice or preference.

>>6607020
As far as I've heard they don't really work, nor would I expect them to. I'd imagine they'd end up shaping/bruising the skin long before they could affect the cartilage. Remember, cartilage is pretty resilient (unless it's in your knees but that's because of the stress of holding body weight).

>>6607051
>>6607809
Seconding this anon. It would require a dramatic change of face structure that is considerably risky. I'd imagine the easiest you could go is flattening your nose but anything beyond that sounds impractical.

>>6608195
Hoshit my cover has been blown! I think I know who you are but haha this is embarrassing.

>>6607020
>Also, have any of you guys tried the butterfly nose-clips that they sell online?
There was a thread about them a long while ago. They do work, but you have to wear them regularly and you might not get the result you want (I just remember one person saying that her sister told her she looked weird because the tip of her nose look crooked. She stopped using it and her nose went back to normal.)

Am I the only one who want to get plastic surgery partly to look like my sister/mom? I don't mean exactly like them. My sister and mom have pretty straight noses with medium size nostrils and I got a nose with a bump and large nostrils. My sister also has DD's and I have C cups. It's kinda like my sister took all the pretty genes in my mom's womb and I got the leftovers. Shit everyone thinks my sister's younger than me and my sister has two kids older than 5. Shit blows.

>>6608220
I think we have an overzealous janitor hanging out tonight

The fuck? Why were so many posts in this thread deleted?

>>6608219
no, not the only one

>>6608225
>>6608219
No, I also want to look more like them. They have round, cute faces and small noses. My sister has wider nostrils, but my mom literally has the perfect nose.

also
>tfw sister is hairless and you're a beast

>>6608234
>tfw mom was a fox and you're a vestal virgin

ugh, how disgusting. it depresses me that women want to do this to themselves. sizing down your face or making lips bigger or tits or asses...just for fucking appearances... jesus christ. This is why I have a hard time liking women. Fuck all of your plastic surgery, fuck all your make up, fuck all of your revealing dresses. why can't you just focus on being a great person than stupid fucking appearance. You're all hollow.

>>6608251

woah that was deep and edgy and all of us will change our ways despite the results they yield in the real world whether we started out thinking it was a good idea or not please tell us more about what you think

>>6608251
insulting us poor, stupid shallow women is a waste of your time. can you go be a great person somewhere else?

and if appearances don't matter, please date some morbidly obese woman with bacne because i'm sure she's a great person.

>>6608256
It's 'deep' and 'edgy' because I prefer women how they are? That they don't need a smaller nose or a smaller chin or higher cheek bones or bigger lips or bigger tits to make me or anyone else happy? It's like appearance matters so much to you people that you have to spend hundred of dollars getting unnecessary surgery done just to look a little bit better in the eyes of the public. It's sad.

>>6608251
Can't focus on being a great person when men abuse me about my looks. It's why I have a hard time liking men.

>>6608251
check your privilege

IGNORE THE TROLL.

So, does anyone have pictures of Vampy before surgery?

>>6608270
are you ryan gosling? no? then no1curr about what you prefer. we're not trying to fuck you. go away.

also lol
>stop caring about your appearance so much!
>proceeds to judge girls based on their appearance

>>6608270
>to make me or anyone else happy

Yes, exactly. It's to make themselves happy. I don't understand why people get so butthurt about others getting surgery. Personal choices.

>>6608270
I kinda want it so that I can make my face how I want. It would be cool if my own face were as aesthetically pleasing to me as others that I look at. I'm not hung up on whether other people think I'm ugly. I'd do it in order to get closer to my ideal self.

It's unfortunate that people need/feel the need to get surgery in order to be accepted, but you haven't lived their life. I commend your anonymous encouragement that not everyone is obsessed with appearance though.

That said, I think I'd only get surgery if there were no chance of complications.

>>6608302
Not to mention, one girl on here is actually getting corrective jaw surgery for something that causes her pain. It isn't always about acceptance.

>>6608302
>>6608310
I can understand if it is for pain, but there's something that feels so fake to me about getting plastic surgery just for the sake of looking 'prettier'. Now I feel different about things like mole removal or if you have some sort of disfigurement or burn victim, etc.

I can only imagine what people wanting extensive plastic surgery will be like once we get into merging with cybernetics, like prosthetic limbs and what not. I can't help but think of plastic surgery just like trans humanism. Maybe im wrong but the idea just grosses me out and it worries me that more people will want to do this and nothing will feel real anymore. Maybe im taking this too far but, i had to say it. And maybe i came about all of this in the wrong way.

>>6608323
Wow, a man with opinions about what women should do with their bodies

I am simply shocked

>>6608328
gb2 tumblr

>>6606494
oh hay charms

>>6608336
>>>/r9k/

Finally a thread where I can contribute! I'll be going to Seoul this summer to have consultations with 3 clinics. I'm definitely getting tipplasty, alar reduction, and lateral canthoplasty, but I'd also like a procedure that will reduce the width of my face from the front. I've been planning this for a long time, and I feel like all the self-loathing is going to eat me up, basically. My nose is too big for my face and I'm disgustingly unphotogenic because of my the bone structure around my eyes. Having a second-cousin who looks like you but twice as pretty and thin really kills self-esteem.

Some advice/info I can offer (which is pretty much repeated from another forum) for getting PS in Korea:
1. Pay in cash, if you can. Usually clinics will give you a discount for this and getting multiple procedures done at one time.
2. Find a reliable translator. Some of you can probably navigate your way through the city alone, but I've heard of translators who'll haggle the price down. But foreigners will always have to pay more, that's just the way it is.
3. Don't always believe before-after pics. There were accusations from a forummer that a clinic was doing some shady photoshop (I THINK it was ID...but they're just shady in general). One tell-tale sign was elongated pupils.
4. Do lots of research right now. E-mail doctors, read blog entries by people who've gotten it done (xiaxue, jacquelinekoh), narrow down clinics, prepare questions to ask during the consultation, etc etc.

Some clinics with English websites: BK, ID, OZ, View, Teuim, Banobagi, Wonjin, Small-Face

>>6608323
wait so mole removal isn't about looking prettier?

>>6608364
which clinic is the best for mandibular reduction?

>>6608364
Oh my god, anon. I wish I could afford it by this summer. I'm going to Seoul in January 2014. Currently trying to find a travel buddy. Which 3 clinics have you narrowed it down to? So far I've emailed ID (they also have an english website), BK, Wonjin, and Grand (also english).

>>6608382
Dr. Han from facehan.com seems to be the best, but his prices are more expensive.

I just wish guys would stop showing up in these threads to tell women what to do/think about themselves.

Saged for no contribution.

I think if someone gave it some serious thought (I'm talking years) and 100% thought that if they got the procedure done it would make them a happier person, then go for it.
That being said, I have tiny A cup boobies and a big bumped nose and I would never change them. As a kid I thought I wanted to, of course, but I grew out of that mindset. It freaks me out to even think about permanently changing my body. I wouldn't feel like myself anymore. I'm not saying I'm a better person because of this, it's just how I feel. I'm all for doing things that make you truly happy. Super emphasis on *truly*.

>>6608323
While surgery is obviously more drastic than getting a tattoo or a piercing, it's still a form of body modification and whether you get it done or not shouldn't determine whether you are more or less 'real.' (An attitude of surgery being REQUIRED should be avoided, but having it as a choice is fine.)

Of course there are plenty of people who get surgery done to fit in and they act pretty fake. There are plenty of people who get tattoos who get them to fit in with their groups. You may not like the reasons, but it's their choice. I think you are being put off by the personalities and views of some who get surgery rather than the surgery itself.

>>6608388
View, Chungdam-U (at dryang.co.kr I would've put it on the list but the ENG link on their site isn't working for some reason) and Teium, but I'm pretty sure I'll go with View in the end. I planned to do it in 2015 but since I'm moving to a place where no one knows me... I'll just be traveling with my mom, but travel buddies are excellent. They really cut the cost down of the room/apt if you decide to share and you have someone to talk to during the recovery. What are you getting done anon?

BK and ID are two that I'm wary of. Though both have very capable chief doctors, BK has had lots of complaints apparently and I've heard ID switches out docs to train newbies after they put you down...

>>6608382
I really don't know, anon. It's subjective and I've seen dramatic results from lots of clinics.

>>6608437
Yeah, that's what I've heard, too. That's awesome that you're going with your mom! I wish mine could come with me.

So far, I really love Wonjin. I like their work and what they told me through their online consultation was exactly what I wanted to hear, pretty much. However, they were the only ones not to give me a price quote. I pretty much asked around to the clinics I hear the most about just to get their opinion on which procedures I should get done and also estimate the cost. Someone told me Wonjin is pretty pricey.

I've heard a lot of bad things about BK. I don't remember hearing bad things about ID, but I know that they haven't gotten back to me yet. Grand was really prompt, and I've heard a lot of good things about them, so I might be leaning towards them. They also quoted me pretty low prices compared to even BK, which is a plus.

I'm >>6608102 so basically something for my eye bags, droopy cheeks, and nose. Maybe I'll email View and Teium, too, since I have seen their names around a lot.

I cosplay and I've had some reconstructive surgery done. It's kind of noticeable because it's right below my eye and I have eyebags from working nights, you can see a line from it fairly prominently when I'm tired. I don't have a photo handy, unfortunately.

Personally, I think cosmetic plastic surgery is dumb and vain, but I'm not going to rag on someone about it if they've had work done. The only thing I hate is fake boobs. They just never look good to me, no matter how well they're done. Maybe 'cause I'm a proponent of flat chest, I guess.

>>6608469
It surprised me how supportive mine was. I always knew I didn't liked my face but she pointed out it was probably my nose. She's ok with financing the ps but I definitely want to pay her back.

Seems like everyone's getting the same results as you. Wonjin just refuses to give a price estimate. It wouldn't hurt to get a physical consultation with them when you're in Seoul, but yeah the pricetag might sting.

That's why I considered those two also. Someone posted a huge doc of b/a photos and View had that look I wanted.

Mind me asking you what ethnicity you are? I have a idea but don't wanna assume too much.

>>6608498
Ah, wow, that's nice that she's going to help pay for it. And it's really nice that you are going to pay her back.

I'm actually mixed, but by majority filipina. Is that what you guessed?

I'm assuming you're also asian if you're going to Seoul for ps.

I am going to say this: don't do it. Maybe I'm biased because I work at a law firm, but we get at least ~10 clients per year who wish to sue their plastic surgeon because 1) they had other underlying issues that made them go overboard with their choices and regretted it later, and 2) they weren't told/realised how expensive the aftercare would be.

>>6606483
what can you do against dark circles under the eyes (no bags)?

>>6608503
Yeah, it wouldn't feel right if I didn't, you know?

Haha, not all all, just got that you were Asian. Yep, I'm Vietnamese.

Have you decided on what type of place you're gonna stay at? I ask this because a lot of the forummers stayed at hotels that were $50-100 a night, which they considered cheap even if they were there for a week or two. I was thinking of renting a small apartment or a room at a guesthouse. This is one of things that I'm still worrying about.

>>6608531
http://www.realself.com/question/f-transfer-for-under-eye-hollows

In this site a bunch of doctors talk about optons.

>>6608534
Hm, I guess we go on different forums. It seems like a lot of people have been saying to use airbnb.com. People rent rooms and stuff for like $15 a night, I heard. I forgot the price of this one type of place, but they basically provided even 1 meal a day or constant soup or something, and it was cheaper than a hotel. Looking on airbnb, the cheapest you can stay somewhere is a miniroom for 15 a night. Flats and apartments go for as low as 30. The people on the forum said you might even be able to haggle with people since they're renting it out privately.

And did you get your translator yet? Some people on my forum actually live in Gangnam and seem to rent rooms and act as nannys or translators. Or at least one guy is thinking about it and has friends that does it? Something like that. There are also reviews on specific translators. It seems there's been one that's been giving people a lot of trouble.

Anyway, I'd really like to talk to you more about this, but I'm going to sleep, so I'll leave my throwaway email in case you also wanna talk more.

>>6608560
Ah, I'll drop you an e-mail since it's around 2AM here.

>r9k: 'check cgl out if we seem nuts'
>cgl
>this thread
>first page
Not even once.

>>6608219
>everyone thinks my sister's younger than me and my sister has two kids older than 5. Shit blows.

everyone thinks that about me and my sister too.
I'm tall and bigger and she is short and petite.

I have some comfort though, she's not very smart. I think it is because she skated by on her looks and now she picks the worst men, has a crappy job, and her looks are fading and she's now spending all her money on clothes and wigs trying to stay forever 25.

>>6608519
Aftercare? The hospital stay?

>>6607368
>>6607372
WTF
Are you BOTH me?

I'm full Japanese. And both my parents are good looking. Somehow they passed onto me a nose that's got a huge bridge, divot in the center, and large nostrils. FUCK.

>>6608735
Nah I'm not you. I'm Chinese.

I've had braces before and my straight teeth lasted all of 3 years before my wisdom teeth came in. I was contemplating getting braces AGAIN but if there were a quicker way to straighten out my teeth I'd do it.
But alas I don't have the money for it.

I've got a ton of things I'd get done (lipo, jaw shaved, etc) but at the same time I like my face.

I just want to be able to smile in photos again and not feel ugly because of my teeth ;_;

Get some D boobies up on me - 7, 500
Get my double chin sucked out and air lifted straight into hell - 5, 000
Lipo around my rib area - Fuck knows.

Thanks Canada.

>>6608586
We don't want you here either, sweetie.

Win-win situation.

I'm very pale with very dark hair. I also have moderate hirsutism. Either I spend an hour and a half every day shaving my entire body or severely irritate my skin with hair removal creams.

Because of this, I'm limited to cosplaying characters who are dressed extremely modestly and I can probably count on one hand the amount of people who have seen my bare legs over the past ten years.

I really can't think of anything feasible that I wouldn't do to have this scourge on my body permanently removed.

>>6608719
For example, after liposuction, you need to spend $300 on these wetsuit-like things to hold your excess skin in and even then the skin might not spring back in, you have to pay for further surgery to remove the excess skin.

Lots of implant type surgeries like rhinoplasty have a problem where the part of the face that had the implant put in doesn't age the same way as the rest of the face, resulting in Michael Jackson. Yet others like fat/collagen/whatever injection? Hardly last a month. So what happens is that after the very awkward looking jaw shavedown and whatnot and your face returns to "normal", the doctor injects some plumpers to make your face look more natural, and after a month when the plumpers are gone, the post-surgery face comes in, you realise you have to live with this face and that becomes a huge disappointment.

After a certain size, boob jobs require the pectoral muscles to be cut into and the implant inserted below the muscle. Sometimes the implant doesn't "take", and it irritates the area, and you feel excruciating pain with the implant jiggling around in a puddle of your own blood - or at least that's what the client described how it felt. It's also noted that women universally choose about 3 sizes too big for an implant, dunno why.

>>6608864
Laser and light pulse clinics often burn and scar the skin inside (and you can't tell because it's inside, you just think it hurts a lot), or leave hilarious zebra stripes of hair behind. Anywhere that's not scarred, the hair eventually does grow back - give it about 2-3 years. Considering most people go to laser clinics being promised permanent hair removal, you can see why this would be frustrating.

Also, once a skin has been messed with, it ages funny - especially around the eyes. The normal creases and drooping that should happen look really unnatural when it happens after the skin there is stretched and sewn up to wherever. Plus the older you get, the thinner and more fragile your skin gets, and from a point onwards you cannot get any more surgery done even when it is necessary (for example, a lot of older people experience eyelashes curling into their eyes so they remove excess skin around the eyes).

>>6608753
..Didn't you have a retainer?

>>6608868
Yes. My retainer broke because of my teeth moving. They tried to glue a wire-style one to the back of my teeth and that one snapped out after less than a month. After that they pretty much said "fuck it" and gave me a retainer that was like the invisaline piece. If I left it out for more than an hour and tried to put it back in it gave me a headache. That one also broke after wearing it for about 6 months (still with persistent headaches at the time too.)

Turns out all 4 of my wisdom teeth are coming in impacted and the dentist never did anything about it (I got the braces when I was in 4th grade and had them until Junior year of HS.)

My teeth were better off BEFORE he initially spread them out. They may have been screwed up but now I have a giant gap from him spreading my jaw out.

-SIGH-

I really, really want a nose job. I inherited my large nose from my dad, a smaller cute nose would fit my face so much better. ;_; I think I might want to get something done to my cheeks, too.

But I don't really know where I could get these done, there aren't lot of plastic surgeons in my country, and the couple that do surgeries here are expensive as hell. I could go to my neighboring country, where plastic surgery is cheap, but the quality is not always exactly the best, so idk... I'm interested in Korea, I heard the plastic surgeries are cheaper there? Do they do foreign patients, and do they speak English in the clinics?

>>6608866
>>6608864
This sounds like a fucking nightmare, but still, 10 clients per year sounds like... very little.

>>6608880
Where do you live, just out of curiosity?

>>6607710
There's corset training, if you commit to it, you can have dat waist out of the corset as well. Just takes dedication.

>>6608757
>double chin
>lipo

Just like...lose the weight normally?

>>6608963
Not quoted anon, but although I don't have a double chin, I "need" lipo for that area because I have a lot of fat there even though I'm skinny.

And also, maybe she's fat and is ok with that but thinks the double chin is ugly? Just maybe?

I feel for you anons with huge noses. Shit sucks. Unfortunately it's hard to justify throwing away tons of savings for something like that.

>>6608963
I'm the same as >>6608964. Even though I'm thin, because I have a weaker chin and jaw area in addition to chubby cheeks, I have a double chin and a bit of sagging going on.

I want lipo on my ass/thighs. I am shaped like a ruler except my hips/thighs. Suuuper pear. Either all ruler all the time or have a waist and boobs and be an hourglass. I like the ruler aesthetic.

Pears are the ugliest shapes imo.

Also I'd get my jaw shaved.

>>6608992
Apple here. I'm mad jelly.

>>6608999
I'm shaped like a 5'7" elin/imp midna. It's not cute, it's just so weird so don't be jealous. I'd rather be an apple because at least you have nice legs and nice legs are everything I want.

>>6609002
grass is always greener. i'm a different apple and i'd kill for that body

>>6608735
I'm not you, no, haha. I'm mixed Asian and white (both of my parents are mixed also to different degrees). My mother has a perfect, tiny nose. Everything about it is just right and cute. My father has a more white nose, but it suits his face. It's like I got my father's nose but... bigger? And it's not feminine at all.

>>6608880
I feel you.

>>6608831
I only know one person who got laser hair removal. He's my coworker's boyfriend. He's in his 30's and got the hair on his back lasered off. Apparently he's really happy with it, and it's been a year. All the reviews I read online by women are horrible, though. I wouldn't recommend it. I feel your pain, though. I shave a big fraction of my body, but I've been doing it for years, so I'm pretty efficient and timely with it.

>>6608871
Holy shit, did your orthodontist not make sure you got your wisdom teeth out!? You're supposed to get x-rays done every year or something by your dentist. Since I was 16, I've been getting x-rays 2+ times a year to see if my wisdom teeth are ready to be removed. I got my braces off when I was 12.

>>6608955
I've been trying to read about permanent body modification by tight lacing. It looks like more shapely girls are able to get a 1"-2" reduction off of their waist long term. For girls who are skinny (like flat stomach), it looks like results last maybe 36 hours.

>>6609002
If you're shaped like your pic, then you look amazing.

>>6609002
Like >>6609006 said, the grass is always greener on the other side. I see where you're coming from. I find pear shaped girls really cute only when they're tall and really thing (so their legs are still really skinny but they have giant hips) or they're short -- which is cute. You're kind of tall, so tall plus huge thighs can be less cute and more scary.

I personally love pear shapes. I'm not sure what I am (33-23-34 so either rectangle or small hourglass), but I know my sister is one of those skinnier pears. She has super long, thin legs but huge hips. I'm so jelly. Especially since she can literally never gain fat on her arms.

>>6608234

>tfw all your friends have no upkeep issues but you are DER SCHWARZWALD after a few days of slacking off

It's slowly morphing me into whatever the body hair version of the "I hate them skinny bitches" landwhale is. Don't spend an hour plucking/waxing? FUCK YOU, YOU SMOOTH WHORE

I'm saving for laser hair removal, but despite it coming along nicely I'm going to have a hard time dumping this money for vanity. This thread was nice for eroding some of that "this could feed a lot of third world orphans" guilt.

>>6609101
I feel a little guilty, too, but then since I'm the one paying for my own procedures, I just remember that yeah, I'm the one that worked my ass off for that money. The money's mine.

Would I give it to charity if I wasn't going to get work done? No, let's be honest, I wouldn't. I volunteer occasionally, but I never donate money. I'd spend it on clothes or eating at restaurants.

>>6609101
You only spend an hour?

Feel lucky.

I'm too blonde with ginger pigment to get laser hair removal. fml.
Then again, I've stopped shaving (well. still shave armpits) because fuck this gay earth and only get sugaring done on my legs during summer plus pluck my beard.

>>6609110

At this point I'm just kind of assblasted I feel guilt about this shit when people with the kind of money to do something about it and still live quite comfortably do not.

Although if I ever get that rich I'm also holding free hair removal lottos for bear women like me. This condition is so disheartening sometimes.

>>6609124
It takes me about 15 minutes to shave my arms, back, legs, and "down there." Waxing and epilating don't work for me. My hair is way too thin everywhere, yet it's black against my white skin.

>>6609130
Pic related.

I don't ever post here, but I've wondered what your opinion about "leg lengthening" is.

I am a 5'7" male, and I want to be 6'ish. I think it would look weird to get that surgery done. Proportionally I mean.

>>6608871
This happened to me, too! My wisdom teeth grew in and broke my bottom retainer clean in half and now my front two bottom teeth overlap a little and it looks really bad. (My top row looks fine though.)

The worst part is that my orthodontist is really pissy at me for this WHEN IT'S PARTLY HIS FAULT. Every time I went to him, he was like, "I don't think you need to have them out yet."

And my dentist would just go along with what he said. I am so angry that my parents essentially wasted half of their money. I don't want to ask them to pay for another round because they'd just get mad, but I don't want to wait until I'm in my late twenties when I can pay myself because then it will take 3-4+ years to do what could have been done in one now.

>>6609185
Everything I've read about leg lengthening for purely cosmetic reasons sounds awful. You can usually only add 2-3 inches to your height.

According to this article,
http://theweek.com/article/index/2875/limb-lengthening-the-radical-w-plastic-surgery-craze
>Even if the procedure is performed flawlessly, it's excruciatingly painful, and doctors don't prescribe anti-inflammatory painkillers because they might inhibit bone growth.

Also, for cosmetic procedures, they usually only lengthen your shins. Adding 2-3" would actually look pretty good since the human body looks kind of squat, but 5" might look weird depending on what your inseam to height ratio is.

If I recall correctly, an average inseam to height ratio is .46. Aesthetically pleasing leg lengths usually fall above that .46, but not more than 5" more than what the .46 ratio inseam value is... If that makes sense.

In any case, it's painful and if you aren't suffering in your life because of uneven legs or dwarfism, I don't think that it's worth it.

>>6609185
I read about a lady who wanted to be a lawyer, but was afraid that she wouldn't be taken seriously because she was short, so she had it done. I'm in the same position as her, aspiration-wise, but I would never have it done, it sounds much too painful. Like the other anon said, it only adds 2-3 inches, so even if I did have it done, it wouldn't have that much effect on me, and I'd still be far below average height. My general opinion on the procedure is the same as my opinion on cosmetic procedures in general, I don't care what others do, and I'm not going to judge them on it. You're only an inch or two below average, you're not THAT short for a male.

>>6608373
Not always. Moles can become cancerous. A friend of mine had her's removed for that reason (and because it was on her face and fairly large to begin with and would only get bigger. So pretty was a factor, but she also didn't want to deal with skin cancer later.)

>>6607992
I kinda like the before nose better...

>>6608895
We're just one law firm out of hundreds, and not that many people actually elect to go through with cosmetic surgery. But the laser skin burn issue was so bad, the business bureau put out mandatory warnings.

>>6607135
I wonder what all she had done. Her after looks amazing.

>>6609017
Teeth girl here
I remember getting tons of x-rays but the dentist kept saying I'd be fine and that I wouldn't need to get them taken out despite my other 2 siblings getting at least 2 of theirs pulled. I really wish he had just done it. I would have been off a lot better had he done so. I went through years of torture for those damn things and to have the teeth I have now even after all that seriously upsets me.

>>6609199
My teeth are being pushed forward because of it so it actually feels weird to try and hold my lips closed. My dentists pretty much pulled the same thing (see above.) and really wish he had just gotten it done and over with. I wish there was some way I could force his office to fix them free of charge because of how much my family paid (without the promised results.)

I'm so self conscious of it that I NEVER smile in photos now because I hate my teeth... just typing this out makes me teary eyed ;_;

>>6607826
>If that doesn't fix it enough I'll get something to make my face a bit fuller (not very common but I've seen it)
I've seen a before/after picture of that but I don't think I have it saved, damn

>>6607844
your nose looks nice from the side