/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Kingdom Hearts
Really only the first game and KH2, I didnt like the gameboy releases or the PSP one. But I really like the first game and the second one. And I dont know why. I think it's all the disney, it's actually a lot of fun going through some of the worlds. And I get a laugh because it feels so much like self insert fan fic. I mean it actually is, a too good main character going around pre established stories and saving their story because of said main characters awesomeness. Yet it's still endearing to me. It doesnt hurt that the gameplay isnt too bad either. I really dont like turn based combat which I think is why I really grew attached to it. It was one of my earlier games when the first one came out so it was pretty easy just to use button smashing and have a ball with it.

And Kairi (KH2 version) was one of my first cosplays, I bought it not made it and a friend later broke my dress when she tried it on with out asking.

But the fandom is so awful it's just... augh.

>>6580137
I know those feelings well... I fucking love KH and KH2, but that fandom sometimes...
I'm a little thankful now because it's not like everyone and their mother is doing KH.

For me its Homestuck. I love Homestuck, and some of the fandom is tolerable, but as for batshit, bad cosplayers, weebs, and attention whores theres absolutely no doubt in my mind that there's all those in spades.

I'm kind of waiting for it to be like Kingdom Hearts in my area, where the hype dies down and eventually it becomes more of a "Oh man I remember Homestuck it's great" than a "holy shit why did I choose Homestuck to cosplay 3/4 of this con is Homestuck please stop screaming kids I am so sorry other con-goers I swear I'm not like these guys wait why are you sneering at me I told you I'm not like them"

Despite all this I still cosplay it though. And two of my next planned cosplays are HS so there's no chance of leaving it soon.

Kuroshitsuji, though I'm not much into it anymore after the most recent arcs. The original story really drew me in with the clever storytelling and mystery elements, and to me Ciel was never cute. He was a twisted, selfish little boy and I really fell in love with him the more he revealed of his disturbing nature. I wanted to see what he would grow into as a man, or if he would even make it that far. I had really high hopes for the storyline but lately it just feels lazy and panders to the wrong crowd. The fandom honestly wasn't too bad until the anime... from then on it was just a downward spiral into derpravity and KAWAII CIEL-CHANS!!11 KAKKOI SEBBY!!

I cosplayed from it twice and had plans for more but don't know if I'll ever get around to them. I don't get how there are so many amazing costumes and people make the same three outfits over and over and over. At conventions the fangirls and more obnoxious cosplayers really are the worst. When we did the Circus group most of the Kuroshituji cosplayers didn't know who we were. When I cosplayed Ciel I was harrassed by hambeasts, creepy stalking Sebastians and snubbed really hard by other Ciel.

>wearing ciel (5'1", shota-shorts), sebastian pops up for photo
>costume is mediocre but they seem nice so who cares!
>puts arms around me for photo, okay whatever
>puts face near my neck... uhhh, maybe for one picture
>hands start groping my legs/ass and fangirls screaming
>I pull away and get mad
>fangirls scream louder, they all think I'm being a tsundere
>sebastian grabs my face in hand and says something I don't remember, I'm just so shocked this person grabbed me by the face. pretty sure muttered something about being a bad boy.
>I get mad and slap them away, leave because WTF
>they keep popping up near me all weekend
>keep hedging into my photos, keep 'running into me'
>mfw on sunday (we haven't actually spoken since the photoshoot) they tell me they love me and want my email.
>tell them I'm taken... gtfo.

Hetalia all the way.

I actually don't have any personal horror stories, surprisingly enough, but I have been in Hetalia groups where people are generally just immature and there is unnecessary drama.

>>6580088

And Black Butler. I'm with you OP on the manga arc (though is a school story really any better than zombie!Titanic?) I had some girl glomp me (like a hard, running glomp) when I was Ciel in Wonderland. She apparently mistook me for a friend. I was so angry I left the con after that (it was Sunday, so I wasn't too pissed about missing out).

Also going to have to say FMA. The fandom isn't bad, but the Edward Elric fangirls... I get the most comments and jabs and heckles in that cosplay. So I guess Ed is my guilty pleasure? Even if there are a million bad cosplayers of him running around with their own greasy brown hair and sneakers.

Pic semi-related. The Al posted to the elricest lj com asking for money to go see her Ed. These two were in online ldr and seriously believed themselves to be Ed and Al. I tried giving them some advice because at the time I was in an ldr that had started online and transitioned into real life, but they were just oblivious to reality. I think they've moved on to other fandoms, but the level of delusion... like the Al refused to role play with anyone else because she viewed it as cheating. Their cosplay isn't terrible, but I know Al wore the cosplay in the airport while she flew to go see Ed in Canada.

They also posted my fanart on their FB and didn't credit and I bitched them out because I don't want my fanart on Facebook at all. I had to do this several times and Al always got upset and claimed it was her bipolar that made her... I guess get so upset? Idk, I can't stand when people instantly throw out a medical condition as an excuse.

So that's my elricest horror story for the fandom.

Homestuck

I love cosplaying as the Kids but I absolutely hate all of the trolls, save Vriska. The story is dragging on too long and I hate pulling myself through hundreds of lines of shitty pesterlogs just to catch up with the story I don't even care about anymore.

Help me.

>>6580275
Why does Hetalia attract the worst people?

>>6580277
My nigga. I did a god tier Vriska a while back (I actually met my boyfriend at a HS meet), but Homestuck has gotten so far away from its roots that I don't really care for it anymore. I stopped at Roxy's wizard book. I haven't been able to work up the initiative to read through that.

Another Homestuck. I prefer doing personal takes on alternate outfits (pic related, glitch trickster shirt just after I finished it) or species swap kids just so that I look a little different to cookie cutter defaults. I also really love the latest updates for a couple of reasons.
The first being that Hussie is pissing off the fanbase so much with this trickster shit and the second being colourful outfits (fuck yes) rather than black+grey+candycorn and white+tiny logo.
I also have an intense dislike for the majority of the fandom but that's what happens with a larger reaching media. It's like Naruto all over again.

>>6580293
(I remember seeing this in the general I thought you did a really fucking good job btw)

Okay getting off homestuck though, seriously, even if I share a lot of your feelings...

Vocaloid. Holy shit Vocaloid fandom I just can't deal with the levels of weeb in it it makes me cringe. I've always wanted to cosplay from it, but tbh I neither have the body type for it and I don't want to get harassed by little screeching girls.

It actually makes me really sad because its hard seeing any artist's hard work being reduced down to "Kawaii uguu" by its fandom. I feel like this happened to Kuroshitsuji and I do wanna read it but I'm put off by the younger fanbase.

homestuck.

I'm I the only one who hates the Zelda fandom?

I mean, they're pretty tame compared to Homestuck, Hetalia, etc. It's just filled with gurrrl gamers and batshit shippers, and I've had a few weeb encounters whilst cosplaying some of the male characters, even getting glomped by a landwhale.

>>6580366
Am I**
:/

Slightly off topic but HOLY SHIT I hate the "Clearly doesnt actually play the game" portion of the TF2 fandom.
It is Free to play (and there's nutjobs that just buy piles of the UPGRADE TO PAID ACCOUNT items and hand em out) and runs on a goddamn toaster, there's no excuse

>>6580379

>runs on a goddamn toaster

I can assure with all honestly that no, it does not run on every computer.

The JRPG fandom in general are a bunch of whiny weeaboos, but damn if it's not one of my favorite genres.

Guilty Pleasure:
Singing animu songs with my best friend
Dancing the kawaii dances
I like inuyasha
I'm intrigued by homestuck but not enough to read it.
I'm actually intrigued by rabid fan/horror stories. Fucking love em. I like to read some of them to my fiance and tell him "that's gonna be you..."
I love legend of zelda but I cannot/do not talk about it with anyone. My best friends boyfriend makes me a little ashamed to like it. He is what's wrong with every zelda fan. I mean it. He won't play very many other games (absolutely refuses to play anythin new), he says LoZ is the best game ever, and he hates rabid fans DESPITE being one.
I made the mistake of telling someone I like zelda (along with a few other games ) and they said "Ohhh nooo you're one of those!"
So now its almost a dirty little secret...I still wanna cosplay skullkid though..
Not cosplay related: I fucking love call me maybe.

I don't hate bad cosplays (I only think drawn on facial hair is...weird looking) it reminds me of when I first started.

Hetalia, Bleach, and, to an extent, Pokémon.
I'm only slightly active in the Hetalia and Pokémon fandoms, but they all kind of get a bad rep.
I hate telling people my favourite cosplays are from Pokémon, because it's always assumed to be, "babby's first vidya," even though the manga and games do get fairly dark. Also, Pokémon gijinka are almost always looked down on, because most people just slap on ears and a tail onto regular clothing so they can be easily noticed, while the really nice, elaborate ones get passed over because people expect gijinka to be uncreative and instantly recognisable.
Oh, and JRPGs in general. They're pretty much my main genre, but goddamn if it can't attract some of the biggest weebs.

I unironically love the English dub of Yu-Gi-Oh. The English names, the terribad accents, the constant derailing of the plot to focus on card games...I love it.

kuroshitsuji for me too....
also i genuinely enjoy homestuck but I hate constantly feeling like I have to apologize for the fandom to my non homestuck friends- I've met some cool homestucks online but whenever I run into some at cons they're really annoying and immature

>>6580088
>>6580264
I gotta admit that the bitchy Kuroshitsuji fandom and the complete mindfuck that was season 2 really and truly turned me away from the show. Something like that has never happened to me before.

I stopped reading the manga midway through that detective conan-like arc where they try to find the murderer among a couple of guests. Is there a new arc or is it still this one?

>>6580288
I think it's because weeaboos have this weird stiffer for stereotypes. That and 'Oh the series is 90% male, but they absolutely HAVE TO DO IT WITH SOMEONE!! Why not eachother?'

>>6580366
i hate them for entirely different reasons

it sucks because a lot of my absolute favorite games are zelda games

>>6580379

I know what you mean. It's usually the females of the fandom drawing fanart mostly. It doesn't bother me too bad, I love meeting other tf2 cosplayers but you'd think for someone who talks about TF2 SO GOD DAMN much they'd have at least over 200 hours, but no.

>>6580366
FUCK, do I hate the Zelda fandom. I love the games so much but I can't even watch a video of a part of a walkthrough where someone has to talk about shipping, or some fight about shipping, or '*insert girl here* is SO ANNOYING I WISH SHE'D DIE'.

>>6580223
all of this lol
except i've only cosplay'd hs once and might be doing it again? but idk

>>6580366
You can spot the ultra-annoying ones by their triforce tattoos. They're almost always on the back of the hand, and they are ALWAYS black.

Homestuck is definitely my guilty pleasure. I'll admit that I used to want to cosplay a lot of it, and I still do later, but I've recently lost my drive to cosplay ANYTHING Homestuck because of the fandom and it taking over so many cons. Honest to God, when I was at Ikkicon last year I overheard a guy near me say that he wanted to just punch any Homestuck because of how many there were.

Kingdom Hearts and the first few dubbed seasons of Pokemon are this, too, and I'll be cosplaying from KH later.

>>6580450
That picture doesn't make any sense to me. It's not as bad as the one circling around Tumblr that said "Zelda can never marry Link because Princesses can only marry a Prince to keep up the royal bloodline, and that's how it's always been throughout history." And then everyone was like YEAH THATS RIGHT. THAT'S WHY HE'S GONNA MARRRY MIDNA INSTEAD!!

Wat...

>>6580455
Yeah they'll hate any female character that gets in the way of their ship. A lot of fandoms are that way, but it's especially bad with Zelda because most fangirls still can't get it through their fat skulls that none of the pairings with Link are canon like they seem to think.

I wish Nintendo would just stop with the theory shit. All people do is fight over it.

>>6580412

That was early 2011 I believe, they have sense moved on to more outrageous fuckery. We're on the second major arc since then, but if I do recall (haven't re-read it in a bit) the leftover plot from the circus arc is rearing it's head, or did in between the Sherlock Holmes/detective arc and the zombie!Titanic arc. Or maybe it was between zombie!Titanic and school story arc.

Zombie!Titanic was almost a whole year long if I remember right. A very trite plot, but there are MAJOR character revelations. So worth it for the big reveals? Otherwise the story hasn't been stellar.

Sorry this is off topic!

>>6580532
Personally I'm hoping this is all just a NNSG-esque parody making fun of shoujo and yaoi scenarios or else I will vomit everywhere.

Okay, well, I won't, but I'll be pretty bummed.

>>6580424

Admittedly I got into the series because my gf at the time was like, "It's mostly male and when countries form an alliance it's like a marriage." So I got hooked because of the yaoi subtexts, but stayed for the weird history and such. It just makes international geopolitics more enjoyable in my head.

I think people get drawn to it because there is a huge cast, so it's easy to find a character you like and aren't so boxed in. The costumes CAN be easy, but there is also a huge range of options. First it was uniforms, then historical dress, then Halloween stuffs, now Nyotalia, and more recently 2P (which I understand on a base level, but don't comprehend the obsession with it, same with Nyotalia, which is an excuse for girls to not have to crossplay).

Also, the episodes are short. You don't have to devote a lot of time to the actual anime or manga because it's such a short, fast presentation. It's not like a series you have to take time to watch and digest over a longer period of time. You can watch all of Hetalia's 100 episodes within the course of a day or two.

And fangirls always like something they can ship that has semi-canonical sexual innuendo.

>>6580542

Well, Yana Toboso certainly seems aware of the yaoi tendencies of her series, though she definitely does not label it as such and really resists fans labeling it as yaoi.

I was hoping with the Titanic arc she might pull another corset like scene with a car scene reference, but it was like the one thing from the Titanic movie she didn't directly copy (sadly).

Though with recent Lizzy developments, it seems she pushing the het a lot more. There is way more interaction between Ciel and Lizzy in the Titanic arc and Lizzy seems to be starting to take on a more typical shojo heroine role. Though the story is still fundamentally about Ciel's revenge, lately it seems that overarching plot has gotten lost. The last two arcs... I can't even remember what their significance is to the larger story. Which tells you something right there. I need to re-read the series, but I feel the plot got lost somewhere after the circus arc, or maybe that the last major thing I remember beyond these last 3 plots which are interesting side ventures and would make a good OVA type story, but aren't in the least bit relevant it seems.

I want more of Ciel's descent in darkness. That's what this inevitably right? It'll be a choice between his revenge and his humanity, how far he'll actually go to know who killed his parents.

There are interesting fan theories though that have surfaced, so at least fandom seems to be thinking beyond zombies and cricket matches.

Code Geass. None of my friends like it and I enjoyed it; I just didn't enjoy the mess that season 2 was. Yet whenever I mention the merits of the series I still get dismissed anyway

And these people watch/read Naruto

My guilty pleasure is always Sailor Moon. Rarely see good cosplays in person, but would love to attempt a sailor v cosplay some day!

>>6580559
They watch Naruto and think it's better than Code Geass?? Fuck man. Nothing against Naruto, but that's really retarded of them. CG is among the best animes out there. Even though the second season was a gigantic mastermind trainwreck, the end left you with that awesome 'Woah'-feeling.

I'm still into final fantasy vii.

I feel like I'm surrounded by old grumpy people only into het and young fantards who want to make Cloud and Sephy live together in a fairy castle and make love and cakes together.

Also, yeah, I'm still into the slash.

I'm old, grumpy, and into slash. It's quite hard these days to get by. I've almost given up.

"High School of the Dead."

I actually like the cosplay that has come from it, and the fandom doesn't seem to have a fuckton of issues compared to most others. However, I think the series itself is pretty awful given how much it panders with fanservice and the writing is pretty bad, too.

>>6580561
forgot my picture, this is the quality of sailor moon cosplay I usually see at fanime (the only con I usually go to)

>>6580580
Don't give up anon! There are some of us into slash that aren't crazy fantards, I promise. Good luck finding us though, we usually keep it to ourselves.

>>6580579
The fanservice is actually so bad that it interferes with the series itself.

It's fairly impressive.

My biggest guilty pleasure has to be yaoi. No matter how terribad the ship is I eat that shit up. I'm even starting to read series just because I hear its slash-bait :(
(pic related, unfortunately)

>>6580583
Kill them

Another Homestuck here- the first five acts honestly compromise an amazing story with a unique sense of humor that I adore. Act 6 is still okay, but it isn't nearly as cinematic/amazing. I've been reading Homestuck for years, and it's really weird to see how many people who were into things like Hetalia are into Homestuck now... I've always been more of a sci-fi type of person, so when I meet up with Hetalians/kuroshit/whatever people at homestuck meets there are times we can't talk about any other series/films/books/whatever in common... it's a shame

>>6580583
why

>>6580583
That girl on the right
That scene comb-over
That... everything.

I'm sorry, I don't usually judge people like this but she looks just so much like a shitty person.

>>6580624
I actually know that girl, definately super scene but despite appearances she's super nice and funny!

>>6580624
They both are extremely scene in their grody hair and Hot Topic stockings

>>6580552
I actually think the manga is very self aware and i like that it's messing with all these call backs to different series and yaoi tropes- but it get kind of tedious when you're reading it as it comes and not in a collected volume. The school arc has been calling back to ciel's dad and that german guy's involvement so I hope we'll get more back story by the end of this session...
the anime though is awful. I still can't believe season two is a thing that happened and that some people like it ironically.

>>6580659
*unironically

Persona series.

I love the entire series, but the fandom has exploded since Persona 4 the Animation. It just bugs me to see all these people now who are think they're big fans of P3&4 just because they've seen that anime and have played Persona 4 Arena. Just noooo.

The fandom didn't use to be that bad either, but now it's full of crazy fangirls who ship Yosuke/Yu (who will always be Souji to me idk not too fond of that name haha) and constantly argue over Kanji and Naoto's identities. Nothing wrong with that, but there's more to the series than shipping and sexualities.

>>6580472
Holy shit are you serious? I was the one that submitted that confession to the zelda confessions blog. I didn't think people would have actually taken it seriously.

My guilty please is pokemon and Vocaloid but the fanbases for both of them are pretty terrible. Not as bad as homestuck but where I live they're looked down upon as being childish.

>>6580753
*pleasure

Sorry I'm on mobile and I can't type on a phone for shit

>>6580753
Yeah you sound like just another annoying shipper with too much time on her hands.

>>6580747
I'm not sure if its a good or bad thing that they don't acknowledge P2 and other SMT games

My first thought was Hetalia, but it's actually calmed down a bit. The sitgma's not as bad, mostly because the creepy ones are pretty easy to spot.

With that in regard, I'd have to say Vocaloid.
My next two outfits are Vocaloid, but fuck am I not going to any photoshoots. All the other Vocaloid cosplays I see (in person) are generic songs and terrible quality.
I only dabble in the part of the fandom that does song-interpretation, because the rest are pretty much batshit insane.
And we're not even going to get on the topic of how retarded shipping is here.

fucking hetalia. it also doesn't help that my major is history.
i'm planning on cosplaying fem!Prussia this summer.

>>6580776
Annoying? Yes.
Too much time on my hands? Yes.
A shipper? No.

Honestly I never understood the whole shipping appeal thing.

>>6580790
I'm so fine with them not acknowledging the other SMT games. Like, I'm really into Devil Survivor, and Devil Survivor 2 is getting an anime. While I am so hyped for it, I'm really hoping it doesn't turn the fandom into Persona 3/4.

>>6580827
How the fuck do you even get into Vocaloid? Like, I have some 6K Vocaloid songs that I downloaded in this massive torrent, and some of them are actually really, really good, but they don't have videos. I want to get into the part of the fandom that isn't fucking crazy, and actually talk about the backstories of each of the different ones.

>>6580747
My only gripe is when some of them identify Persona 4 as a SMT/Megaten game or call themselves an SMT fan because they've played the Devil Survivor games/Persona games. Other than that it doesn't bother me. I just don't affiliate with them. No point either. A lot of them would stare you blank in the face and think you're crashing their group meet if you showed up in a Nocturne/other series cosplay.

Hetalia.

I fucking love my fancy-ass pirate France cosplay, it's the biggest and best cosplay I have and I feel so fabulous wearing it, but damn if our fandom isn't still infected with rabid weebs like all get out.

Last year at Sakuracon, there was a Russia who'd had her coat ripped by a Belarus jumping on her back. And the photoshoot was so full of screaming fangirls that most of us couldn't hear which countries were being called up to pose. I also had a Ciel cosplayer sing an entire song to me while I was France because there was a song she knew about the French Revolution.

And Homestuck. I don't care what the fandom does to him, I will always love Bro Strider. He's the only thing that keeps me reading the series.

>>6580606
Also this

Homestuck and One Piece for me, man. I love both of them so much because I adore the stories and characters to bits (although Homestuck has been really dragged out lately, I'll admit) but some parts of their fandoms are just absolutely batshit to put it simply.

>>6580884
Look up the Seven Deadly Sins series (you can find the songs on the wiki), that one is pretty good for backstories and all of that shit. Just avoid the fans that won't shut up about Daughter/Servant of Evil, and the girls that think that they would like to be in Venomania's harem. If you avoid them, you're good.

Usually I only talk to my friends about the songs because the fandom is so horrible.

RoTG

The fandom isn't that bad honestly but I think everyone is unamused that Jack is "the new Once-ler"

>>6580454
I've only logged 40+, but I still beat people I know who've played 200+. I'm bad to alright at shooter games, so that says a lot about the people I play with.

>>6580366
>Zelda is my secret pleasure
>MFW all I've ever wanted was a triforce tattoo
>the Zelda tumblr tag has made me lose all hope for the fandom
I couldn't care less for the shipping, but Ocarina was the first nintendo game my brother ever let me play and I used to play it through for days straight, then I collected all the other games, and regardless of the system, they were all great. Then, the Nintendo Wii happened. Twilight was a big disappointment, and I haven't the courage to start Skyward.

>>6580406
>Ma nigga
>>6580454
Bad TF2 fanart is the worst part about the fandom. But the game is fantastic (+200 but my b/f got me stomped at 463. Not to mention some of our clan mates.) But can we talk about how fantastic the comics are for a second?

>>6581029
Get a triforce tattoo then? I've got one, and know a few others who have them, so if you can put up with the retarded "hurr tattoos are supposed to be original and unique" then i'd say go for it.

also skyward sword is orders of magnitude better than tp, definitely worth a playthrough.
maybe not more than one though.

>>6580831
I don't understand why you jumped to the conclusion about the Hyrulean Royal family's policy on marriage, it's fictional and I don't recall it ever being mentioned (???). Princesses could marry whoever they want in a lot of places in history. And technically Link is a savior who was chosen by the gods to save their land, wielding the Master Sword and has the Triforce of Courage, so I'd say he's the roughly the equivalent.

It just sounds like you're upset somebody doesn't ship your OTP.

>>6581029
I would give Skyward Sword a shot. I would say it's far from the best, but still a mile better than than the God-awful Twilight Princess.

It gets a little boring because it's kind of repetitive, the motion plus can get annoying, and the fact that it's rated E is worse (the fucking boss in the sandship dungeon looked like a purple Mike Wazowski). But overall it explains a lot about the series, how things came to be, and the characters are fun.

>>6581092
Honestly I just did that as a poor attempt at trolling. It worked, kinda. I should have been a lot more subtle about it. But to each his own I suppose.

>>6580088

naruto

the manga isn't even good i just love the characters

I love Naruto so much, It's sadly one of the only things that makes me happy anymore. I'm into shipping alot, but i try not to shove it down anyone's throat haha I really cant help how badly i love it.

And its those obnoxious Narutotards that annoyed everyone and ruined it for the 'calm' fans. I mean, they were so bad they are now the cosplayers all the new obnoxious cosplayers get compared to... I still cosplay as characters from Naruto, but I'm scared one of the obnoxious people might still be in the fandom and do something weird at me...

I just want to enjoy it like any other fandom without being judged or ninja raped lol

Another Fandom I still love is Yugioh, and as much as i love Yugioh Abridged, and i'm very glad that it brought the fandom back a bit, i'm so pissed off at how annoying the fans are now... It's like the recent fans are just cosplaying from YuGiOh Abridged and dont even really know the actual show (Even if the show did play card games a little too much haha)... Maybe i explained that badly, but it just comes down to the fact that I really cant stand obnoxious people who dont understand social norms or what personal space is...

Since everyone is talking about stupid Zelda fans, maybe I should share some of my bad experiences?

>Play TP for the first time
>Despise the game entirely, but fall in love with Link’s design and chainmail so I decide to cosplay him
>Costume isn’t great, but I make a pretty convincing Link
>Stand in line for the dealer’s room
>Chubby but somewhat cute girl and her friend are behind me
>Chubby one is cosplaying fem!Link and the other looked like some fucked up version of Marth
>Hear them squealing softly
>Marth grabs me by the shoulder
>They’re both wheezing and ask me if I’m single
>Tell them I’m a girl politely and they both scowl, and start mocking my costume in defense

Same day:
>Walking down the hallway
>Suddenly I feel two hambeast arms wrap around my neck and nearly choke me
>We topple over and my head slams against the floor
>Start seeing stars, she gets off of me and starts whining about twisting her wrist
>I say WHAT THE FUCK
>She says she just wanted a friendly hug and walks off
>Finally get up, body hurts
>everyone around is laughing
>Try not to cry and run back to my hotel room to hide
>Never cosplay Link again

(cont.)

>>6581423
A year later…
>Run across Zelda cosplay group
>They see I’m dressed as Anju and tell me to join them
>They seem really nice, we talk about the series and have a good time
>We start talking about annoying characters, they start ranting about Navi
>I say I like Navi and give them reasons why
>Mention the fact that Midna annoyed me to death
>Midna cosplayer nearby gets defensive
>Calls me rude for saying I dislike Midna in front of someone cosplaying her
>Lists reasons why she’s “the best character in the series”
>Says Midna haters should grow up and that we’re all outnumbered
>Everyone around her agrees that I’m being rude
>Tell them sorry and that I was just sharing my opinion
>Girl sneaks up next to me and screams “HEY! LISTEN!” in my ear
>They all laugh and turn away

There are so many more, I now avoid Zelda fans like the plague

>>6581427
>scrolling through /cgl/
>see HEY LISTEN
IT'S NOT FUNNY

>ohayocon
>some girl dresses as Navi
>hear from across crowded loud hallway
>seriously it was loud in there
>HEY LISTEN IF YOU GO TO DEATH MOUNTAIN YOU DIE
>something like that
>hear this bitch SCREAMING this shit all fucking day
>pity whoever was in close vicinity

Pokemon. I have loved it since I was 7. I'm very open about loving Pokemon, it's not really embarrassing. What I don't tell them, however, is that I ship Ash/Gary (and Red/Blue ofc). Actually majority of them don't even know I like SA and Yaoi. Did I mention Shota?
I've done a shitty Ash cosplay and dressed up as Pikachu for Halloween before, but nothing serious. I would totally be down to get another girl and we could both dress as Red and Blue and hold hands and be obnoxious and take some Red/Blue shipping pics. But there's no way (read: never, ever) I would do that.
Well this is refreshingly embarrassing. At least I'm anon.

>>6580905
Oh god, adding on to this:
Stay away from people who think Dark Woods Circus is a stand-alone song.

I hate it when it's brought up and I say, "Oh, it's okay, but Guard and Scythe is better," and everyone goes, "..what does that have to do with anything."

I'm not sure it counts as a guilty pleasure because I certainly don't hide it but I still and will always love Bleach. I have been cosplaying from it for nearly as long as I've been cosplaying. I honestly don't exactly know what I'll think when it's over.

>>6580891
>My only gripe is when some of them identify Persona 4 as a SMT/Megaten game
Persona 4 is a Megaten game. It's not a SMT game, which also falls under Megaten. Megaten is just an umbrella term for all the franchises.

>>6580659
It is very self-aware. I'm beginning to wonder how many people actually know that Yana used to do yaoi/shotacon before starting Kuroshitsuji, or that the magazine it runs in is deliberately targeted towards women/teenage girls despite being labeled as a shounen mag.

Can't believe no one has said MLP yet. Some of the cosplay's are amazing! Other's make me cringe. I guess like Homestuck it attracts some weird fan-doms.

>>6581456
I hate these people.

>>6581477
Why is that Rarity wearing wings?

>>6581509
probably from the episode they go to visit the Pegasus school or whatever.

>why the fuck do I know this

>>6581509
because.

>>6581516
>>6581519

Thanks for clearing that up. I've only seen what little my brony friends have exposed me to.

>>6581477
Well then I'll go, MLP is my big fandom.
Yet I haaaaate so so much of it.
I'm cosplaying Pinkie Pie this summer in her Gala dress. I'd be worried about the bronys but they tend to be self absorbed enough I doubt I'll even show up as a blip on their radar.

But it's like... I hate the fandom and I dont. I cant hate the bronies because I find it charming that these guys like the show and who am I to say they cant, and some of them are really gracious about it and not spilling spaghetti all over themselves, tends to be the ones that are a smidge older. And those who do have social problems I'm kinda glad they found an outlet to grow through.

But holy hell. Every one says that the brony fandom creates lots of art... but all the shitty art man.... I made a hobby out of browsing fim fiction and laughing at reviewers tearing apart bad self insert fan fics. Like you thought finding a mary sue in other fiction is easy, here every other story is "(Male name here, though sometimes female) Wakes up to find themselves in ponyvill! What ever will they do?" and is always tagged as romance.

But some of the fan fic isnt so bad if you find a funny one, and some of the fan art is cool and I like some of the song remix's (even if I'm not a big techno fan)

could still do with out the clopping though.

>>6581546
Dropping trip to say this.

I fucking love MLP. I find it kawaii as fuck and it makes me laugh from time to time.

Being a 26 year old and (normal) looking male I will NEVER admit to it because I don't want that fucking fanbase around me.

>>6581559
It's ok bro, I wont judge. You sound like a sane enough fan of the show.

And it is hella cute, that's why I got into it in the first place. I feel lucky to be a chick in this fandom though. I feel we dont get judged as much while if your a male who likes it, insta brony tag. Which is kind of sad since not every male fan is that obsessed with it or that crazy.

>>6581575
I've thought about making a Raveboy Dash costume.
For the raves.

Then realize I'm too old for them and feel like a pedophile just for showing up and am like "nah."

Another Homestuck and MLP. Both are great but the fandom, god the fandom. I've learned to ignore it and enjoy it myself but when ever I show my interest or want to cosplay i get lumped together with 'those fans.'

Kingdom hearts

I despise the direction the games have been going in and I've always hated the fanbase but I've sunk so much time into the series I just can't stop

I like Zelda and Hetalia. I basically hide the fact I watch any anime or am a big fan of anything because I come from Bogan County. I love overthinking and speculating about series I like and as far as I'm concerned, as long as you're relatively mature and discreet about it, I don't care.

But from the sounds of it I might be one of those horrible obnoxious fans, so this may all be useless on my part.

I like MLP and Adventure Time because I find them genuinely cute funny and entertaining but I'm not involved with the fandoms at all so I guess I'm not really bothered by it except when I encounter large groups of idiots at cons. I basically just watch the shows on TV and buy some merch if I see anything cool. I've never had a series I like ruined for me by jackass fans because I don't get involved in online communities about them.

>>6581640
I also like Adventure Time. The fans of the show are cool people and all, but once you tell them you like the show it instantly becomes the subject of every future conversation.
It makes me sad.

>>6580906
Man, that's not even worn out/big/full-of-crazies enough to be ashamed of.
I'm hanging on to my pride while I can keep it.

But yeah, Kuroshitsuji is definitely a guilty pleasure of mine. The fans can be really really awful (obsessive) I had some less-than pleasant experiences cosplaying Grell. More of a closet fandom for me now, I guess...

Man, that's not even worn out/big/full-of-crazies enough to be ashamed of.
I'm hanging on to my pride while I can keep it.

But yeah, Kuroshitsuji is definitely a guilty pleasure of mine. The fans can be really really awful (obsessive) I had some less-than pleasant experiences cosplaying Grell. More of a closet fandom for me now, I guess...

>>6581652
I have literally never met another Adventure Time fan. I wonder if I should be glad about that now....

>>6581674
derp, meant to quote >>6580906
at the top...

My Little Pony. I hate the brony fandom nowadays. I just want to watch my little girl cartoons and buy toys and pretend I'm a little girl again.

Vocaloid. I like the songs, the videos, and the character designs. I honestly haven't actually seen terrible things from the fandom personally though, so.. yeah. I'd still like to think bloody Miku was real.

I still read Naruto even though I see it's many flaws and am aware of (and was once a part of) the bad fanbase.

>>6581674
I understand. I had my chainsaw broken at San Japan last year because an idiot tried to take it from me and dropped it.
Now it has a stupid temp. fix piece of wood on the handle

Shit, man. I'm a Zelda fan and I've never experienced any of the crap you guys have gone through. I've only seen one example of the "hey listen" annoyance in all my con going. Though, I always get funny looks and even laughed at when I say I like Navi and I don't like Midna.

>>6580898
>One Piece
Are there bad One Piece fans? I have never encountered a weeb or social retard who was a part of the One Piece fandom. Love that shit, got me out of the Naruto haze and onto greener pastures. Does anyone have stories about One Piece fans?

Bumping for my secret love of Bleach.

>>6581427
Is your name Sarah?

Sorry, but you were being way rude to that girl. She said she preferred Midna over Navi and you were quick to shove it in her face that you think her opinion is stupid. Sure she acted like a cunt too, but that was after you bashed her opinion as if yours was a fact.

So don't play the victim.

Definitely yaoi and yuri. Though I guess I should say shounen/shoujo ai. I like shipping and fluff better (I'm so sorry, I don't spazz about ships though).

I used to be a huge AT buff. I tried to talk about it with my (only) friend but she said AT was weird and stupid. Now after discovering tumblr (kill me) she suddenly loves it and talks about Fionna and Cake all the time. She has a habit of inserting herself into her favorite female characters to reflect her fantasies and it's leaking into fucking everything we discuss, including all kinds of anime, games and some other shows. She has seen literally two episodes of the entire show but she talks about it constantly and obsessives over the R63 fanart. She's even adopted the tumblr typing style. You know the one.

I love MLP and I own a bunch of merch but I'm always afraid that potential anime-loving friends will judge me based around the shit they've seen on the internet.

I love Yana Toboso's work and I find her sense of humor cute, but the Kuroshitsuji anime was a trainwreck. I don't mean the Code Geass kind of fun trainwreck either, I mean the "millions are dead and nobody is laughing" kind. I'm putting my faith in her that she'll pull us out of this rough time with a good end to this arc.

I love Hetalia for the content it produces but I stay away from the fandom outside 4chan. In fact, the only fandoms I've touched are the ones found here. You guys are great.

I love Japanese music and Vocaloid. NO TEARS ONLY DREAMS NOW

My latest guilty pleasure is Zoro x Sanji. I don't actively take part in the fandom, but I'm probably the horror of all male OnePiece fans. Still, fuck it, I can't help but enjoy their bickering with the occassional nice dose of shounen-ai or smut.

I regret nothing.

>>6581465
No matter how retarded the story is, everyone can agree Kubo draws god-tier women.

>>6582221
>implying they don't look like every singe other disproportionate animu bitch

okay

My guilty pleasures are Kuroshits, RoTG, HP, and comics.

For Kuroshits, I haven't really kept up with the manga lately, but the second season of the show was absolute mind-fuckery and I stopped following mid-way through. Some fansgirls/boys are insane. Luckily most people have been very polite when I cosplayed Ciel and Drocell (who has a weird following). That said, there seem to be either really stunning cosplays or really bad ones. Really awesome people/cosplayers or the really insane/annoying ones. There's no middle-ground in Kuroshitsuji.

RoTG, still new but it is somewhat hard to wade through the Tumblr tags and DA submissions of utter shit and KEKEKE JACK x PITCH YAOI fanfics and fanart before finding the few really nice cosplay or art gems.

HP, nuff said. Insane fans are insane but I still really enjoyed the books and the films.

And finally, I think you guys know what I mean about comics. I've been a casual reader for years but with the sudden bumper crop of comic-to-movies has brought on a lot more comic cosplay, which is totally cool until people started trying to be so U-NIQUE and skankifying everything and doing fem! versions of characters, some of which already exist but no, people have to go above and beyond to skankify.

Hetalia, Hetalia, Hetalia.

I adore the series so much and I've been in the fandom for so long I don't think I'll ever be able to leave. Especially with the new anime coming out. It's calmed down a bit but I'm always embarrassed to admit I cosplay from it/am a fan of it when I'm talking to people while in a vidya cosplay or anyone else really that ISN'T a fan of Hetalia due to the stigma of it.

It's mean but I'm so glad a lot of the worse fans went to homestuck.

>>6582221
Kubo draws god-tier everything I love the evolution of his art style and how sleek it's become.

>>6582311

I'm sure he also draws god tier backgrounds

oh wait

Newfag here.

I'll check off DBZ, Sailor Moon, Death Note, Zelda, KH as fandoms I adored. I'm not hardcore into MLP, but I do love the show and its nostalgia of playing with the ponies when I was little. I don't have a problem with guys that like the show, but when bronies take the show too far with their ships and bestiality, I nope and walk away.

>>6582311
Too bad he can't draw backrounds.

>>6580827
actually outside of youtube most parts are okay.
doesn't actually sound like you've spent any time really anywhere. Im not gonna deny the weebs and morons exist but it's really not that terrible. people ship the characters, and in a fandom where you can control everything about the characters it's pretty normal.
also
>complaining about generic songs but using senbonzakura

I guess for me it'd be the Final Fantasy fandom. I watched my dad play 4 as a kid and by time 9 came out I was old enough to play on my own so those two are my favorites. I've had people bitch at me for not liking 7 so much and for not liking anything after 9 at all. It's a whole lot of LIKE THINGS I LIKE NOW. I will admit though this tends to be with fanboys of 7 and 8 more so out of any other FF game.

Yuri.

Though it's not as shitty as a fandom as many others are, I still feel guilty for enjoying high school lesbian drama so much.
>tfw you'll never have a kawaii gf

I enjoy yaoi and pairing up clearly non-homosexual characters with each other, I'm sorry. Although, I do not share this with anybody whatsoever.

Death Note, Chobits, Mirai Nikki, Fruits Basket, etc. Not really crazy fandoms, just really mainstream typical weeb anime.

>>6581751
No, my name is not Sarah.

I smell troll.

I'm a slasher/shipper, and I'm never really happy to admit it given the kinds people slash heavy fandoms tends to attract.

I'm sorry. I just... really like it when boys kiss, and the like.

Yeah I love me some TF2. Clocked a bit over 1100+ hours on it so far Had it since release, I cosplay it and love tf2 man.

I always look forward to Valve gatherings in hopes of meeting new friends and fans.

>>6582970

I am also a shipper.
And I write fanfiction.

I should be taken outside and shot. But I tend to ship women with other women rather than dudes.

>>6582972

in respone to >>6581047

>>6582972
TF2 is a guilty pleasure these days..? I mean, even though I haven't played in a while I still love TF2 and enjoyed cosplaying from it. Who do you cosplay, out of curiosity?

>>6582979
Nothing wrong with a little girl on girl romp. You enjoy what you enjoy.

My Little Pony. Only a handful of people know I watch it. Either close friends, people at cons, or this one time when some guys were picking on an autistic kid for drawing Rainbow Dash.
But regardless of fandom, I wouldn't tell people I watch MLP anyway, as you could probably imagine, seeing that I'm your average, 20 year-old guy studying for engineering and spending time in the gym. But it makes me smile, and I've lightened up a lot since then.

>>6580559
You shouldn't feel guilty of that one. But I know how that feels. A few of my friends ship yaoi pairings so hard, they forget the cannon ones existed in the first place until I mention it sometime. "Wait, they're together? ...Oh yeah!"

>>6581674
COCC Anon / Kayla's friend, here. Surprised you've never met an AT fan before. Kind of figured most people at least knew one or two.
If there's a meetup, party or whatever sometime, I'll bring my friend Autumn. Have a feeling you two would get along.

I really like Tales of game but I don't tell anyone because the local fandom is most definately retarded and I have friends that would try to take me to their meetups.

Homestuck and a little of MLP. I've been in Homestuck for nearly two years now, but holy shit am I losing interest in it. I've thought a lot about leaving the fandom, but haven't mostly for the fact that before this, my (first) fandom was Hetalia around its height and I'd feel too weird not to be in a big fandom.

I'm too embarrassed to admit that I'm into MLP, partially because MLP fans are at least somehow psychotic, but mostly because two IRL friends are ass-deep in the fandom and I'm trying to keep myself out of it for my own sake.

>>6582986
not >>6582972 but the thing is that a weirdly large portion of the tf2 fandom is far more interested in Heavy and Medic buttsex than they are in Amassing Large Piles of Hats and Shooting each other

>>6582288
>KEKEKE JACK x PITCH YAOI fanfics and fanart

I figured Pitch wasn't ~*kawaii*~ enough to be shipping material. Color me surprised. I haven't heard any cosplay horror stories from the RotG fandom yet, so I guess I'm safe to wear Pitch...

Anyway, I guess my guilty pleasure would be the second season of Kuroshitsuji, but it's really only because of Claude. He's such an absolute bastard, he's convincingly demonic in his behavior and his agenda, and it was finally nice to have a character that was Sebastian's equal. There was so much potential for so much conflict and interaction, but it just never happened and it went to shit.
Either way, no matter how awful the fandom gets, I think I'll always keep an eye on the series. I got into it mostly because it seemed like a less stressful version of Godchild.

>>6581735
Ugh no, that makes me so mad! It's really disturbing seeing how reckless other people can be with props and costumes.
Someone also tried to take my coat while I was cosplaying Grell, fortunately (or unfortunately) it was safety pinned to me and resulted in a rather awkward falling collision. I don't understand how people can be so careless.

>>6583069
oh hi thar
Yeah, It seems pretty popular so I'm surprised I haven't met anyone either. I've been getting some people into it though! That sounds cool, I'll look forward to meeting her! And you too, since we only briefly met really haha.


>>6582288
>KEKEKE JACK x PITCH YAOI
Oh yeah, this is my actual guilty pleasure. So so so guilty.
You can use some extensions to blacklist certain users or tags, that might help. try tumblrsavior?

>>6582208
>Zoro x Sanji
I thought I was the only one!

Okay yeah, I think shounen ai/yaoi is my real guilty pleasure. That's definitely something I like to keep in the closet, fans of such pairings are represented by the most awful people sometimes...

I guess it isn't considered that horrible just because no one cares about it anymore but, Saiyuki. I'm still keeping up with it after about a decade. Cosplayed once but never again.

> meet girl at my college
> wearing anime shirt, seems possible weeb but is very nice so give her a chance
> tells me about her boyfriend
> shows me picture
> mfw its a lovely DRAWING of some anime dude with green hair
> mfw I used to have an anime boyfriend based off Sesshoumaru named Seshie-kun
> avoid her at all costs and never speak to her again

>>6583319
why don't you ever have sex with *ME* you WHORE?

>>6582496
I've also gotten funny reactions when I say I don't care for the new FF. Also Crystal Chronicles are shit.
>>6582510
I also know this feel. Can you imagine my b/f's face if I dragged him to yuricon?

>>6583222
Oh I'm well aware of the shippers, I was once a regular on TF2chan way back in the day. Some uh... interesting stuff, that. I just never thought it got THAT bad. Maybe it really has been a while for me, heh heh.

>>6583319
Yeah, she's the Anemone cosplayer that went to Newcon with me. You might have seen her with us at Kumo.
I'm pretty sure we didn't even say anything to each other, haha.
Well, at least the weather's getting better. Might actually be able to do something now. Feels like I've been hibernating since school started.

>>6582488
I was complaining about generic song cosplays, like Magnet and Matryoshka.
I'd love to see a load of Senbonzakura at a convention.

>>6583363
>Saiyuki
Dear god I'm not the only one. I've been planning a cosplay of Zakuro for a year, and I never get around to doing it.

I stopped reading it after Hazel's arc, and also because it was taking them forever to get to India...

Yaoi, m//, yaoi in general. I can't help it. I grew up in the fandom generation of fanzines and (upon the invention of the net) web rings. It was my guilty pleasure, and and still is. I don't care how obnoxious, loud, or creepy the adverage yaoi fan is. I will still go to the yaoi panels, roleplay my slash online, and Cosplay female characters from my favorite yaoi series. I don't crossplay, but there are enough non-romantic female characters to go around.

>>6583496
Supposedly, Blast is the last arc so it'll FINALLY end after this, but she keeps releasing chapters for side stories instead (like the Gaiden oneshot she just released), plus there's Ibun, and her other manga series on top of that. I'm just trying to hold on to hope; if I've made it this long, I can hold out as long as people are still translating.

The story quality has never gone down though, in my opinion; that's the thing that's kept me reading. And while her art was shaky during her illness pre-surgery, it's back to full strength now.

>mfw they still never released the one last volume of Reload in English
fucking TokyoPop

>>6583529
Okay, knowing it is nearing its end is weirdly comforting. I just didn't have the energy for like a 10 year long shounen manga fest or anything like that. And even if she did a lot of side stories, they were usually always pretty interesting, so that was a plus.

And I'm glad the plot hasn't taken a nose dive. I was all over Hitman Reborn up until the final arcs, and it just ended so badly.

God, way to rekindle my love for this series, anon. Guess I'll be finishing my cosplayer for summer after all.

Guilty pleasures oh boy here we go
Yaoi, HotD, bleach, Naruto, and Kingdom Hearts

I find a lot of weeby things related to KH, bleach and naruto. I honestly enjoy the story line in the naruto manga. Im not a big fan of the anime but its alright. Bleach is also similar in annoyance to naruto but not nearly as much. The fanbase for bleach seems more um..calm? Than the naruto one but meh I like the story and characters. KH on the other hand I liked because of a yaoi pairing then got into the games and I regret nothing ( if you must know its axel roxas). As for HotD if you know of it which I'd be surprised if you didnt then you know why it is a guilty pleasure.

Anon from >>6582288.
>>6583239
I think you're fairly safe cosplaying Pitch. Just run like hell if super weebs bring a Jack with them and ask you to do sexy poses. Also, Pitch cosplay, sounds so badass. I hope you post pics somewhere!

>>6583319
I am actually pretty tolerant of what people ship and can see why people like that pairing, but I think the aspect of Jack x Pitch that is most disturbing is the really shitty fanart of it. I mean "exceptionally bad but still gets a ton of praise and favs just because of the pairing" shit. If it were at least nice-looking fanarts I smile and say, "Not my cup of tea, but that's a pretty awesome picture someone took the time to craft." but no... shit-tier crayons/colored pencil/lined notebook paper doodles. It almost makes me want to leave the DA groups I'm in, but I still want to hang on for the really nice things that also make their way through.

The lined paper drawings creep me out especially since I'm a teacher and I can totally visualize any one of my idiot students doodling that terribad yaoi on a sheet of paper instead of listening to me tell them exactly what to study and what the questions are on tomorrow's test.

>>6583125
The Tales fandom has its share of retards but there are a number of mature/typically older fans who are pretty chill. One of my friends is a pretty big fan who cosplays from a lot of the Tales games and she doesn't seem to have much trouble at gatherings. She just avoids the obvious retards and is really laid back about everything. You could give it a try sometime and just be choosy about which fans you talk to. I know Otakon has a rather large gathering.

I read all the ItaSaku fan art.
I don't even fallow/like/care about naruto any more, but holy fuck that shit is my crack.

Vampire Knight. It's basically the twilight of anime but I enjoyed it enough to where I cosplay as Zero now. The fandom/cosplay is OK i guess; typical fan girl stuff.

Naruto. I really love Naruto and I still do.. but I'll be glad when it's done. Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely enjoying the ride but I'm ready to get to the destination already! TOO MANY Naruto shipuden cosplays srsly. Also, I hate sandals and people who wear sandals. cover your fucking toes

>>6583370

Man, can someone explain the appeal of Sesshomaru to me? There are a billion and one fangirls who love him, but in my eyes he has the personality and appeal of boiled cardboard. He's pretty and overpowered and that's about all he has got. I've never understood the love for him at all; not as a 13-year old weaboo obsessed with the series, and not now.

>>6584094
As a guy, I used to think he was a badass, being so overpowered and such.
Appeal to girls? Well, he was a calm and collected prettyboy with a wolf's tail.
Remove the tail, make very minor tweaks to personality and looks, and you've got Sebastian from Black Butler.

Oh wahh all the talk about shitty Zelda fans makes me reluctant to cosplay Malon... Though she's a fairly likable character right?

>>6584107
After all these years, I still can't believe that big furry boa is his tail...

I still think of it as a fluffy boa.

>>6583793
I should hope so. It's seems like if you do Jack, you become more of a target of harassment, which is troubling to me since a lot of my friends are working on cosplays for him. I don't want anyone bothering them.

Haha, thanks anon! I'm working on this version of Pitch for Wondercon, so I'm sure a few pictures will inevitably be floating around at some point.

>>6584107
>>6584094
I didn't like him either. Yeah, he was pretty, and he was an ass, but that was about it. I think I liked Kouga more, he was a lot more fun personality wise.

>>6581427
I can share your pain abit. I hate the LoZ fandom aswell. Mostly cause all thinks OoT is the greatest game ever without actually giving reasons to why it is so good. There is a Ganondorf (Super skinny), Link and Zelda that goes on most cons around here and they are pretty decent. The costumes looks good but I don't really feel like talking with them. They just have this weird feel around them.
>>6581735
I cosplay Grell aswell (One out of three males where I'm from) and I am sad to hear this. I borrowed the cosplay from a friend because people wanted me to cosplay him but didn't feel like making it so. Only a couple of things, my friend forgot to tell me to bring a shirt but it's okay. I had a white shirt so it kinda worked, also no chainsaw. Meh, too big to bring with him maybe. No glasses, wait..what. Ok, ok. I got to borrow a red pair of glasses from a friend so no damage done. The wig...By tall that is holy and alive what teh fuck have you done with it??! My friend had to cut it and comb it for almost two hours before it just looked awful but it had to do. Can try to get a pic of it later. The actual clothing I got to borrow? Absolutely flawless but still that god damn freaking wig.

My own guilty pleasures. Hmm, LOTR. maybe it isn't as bad as in other countries but here it's fucking terrible.

(">") Going to a biggest con around.
(">") See a pretty decent Witch King of Angmar.
(">") Everyone thinks it's Sauron. Everyone.
(">") See a group of hobbits. Merry, Pippin and Frodo.
(">") Feel relieved. Finally people that knows who he is cosplaying.
(">") Behold, they have no idea who he is.

I love reading shitty fanfiction. Especially Naruto high school fics, preferably with Sakura.

Also I love browsing FandomWank, particularly the old BNFs drama with all that shit about Cassie Claire and MsScribe. And SnapeWives, Harmonians and Slytherfen. I enjoy bitter tears of batshit shippers from every fandom, regardless if I'm familliar with it or not. Also, I sometimes troll SJWs on LJ and Tumblr.

>>6584171
Where are you from?
Never knew LotR had a bad rep anywhere. A lot of people probably wouldn't recognize a majority of characters from outside the movies.
At best, I'd just expect everyone to call him a Nazgul, but at least they'd know he was that one guy from LotR.
Though I am disappointed in the LotR cosplayers not even knowing who the Witch King is... Was he dressed as a Nazgul, or in human form?

>>6584181
I'm from Nigeria.

>>6584150
>>6584107

Wait, that's his tail?! WHHAAAAATTTT

>>6584107
>>6584150
It's not a tail, it a fluffy boa thing. If you look, it does not originate from above his ass.

>>6584196
Yeah it's not necessarily his tail but it is actually a part of his body. Apparently it was revealed in the profile books that the creator. Apparently she drew the thing to large and decided she liked it that way and left it.

>>6584203
I thought it was just supposed to be like the ~magic~ part of his human body, because it's like how he has the fluffy mane when changes. It seems sort of representative of that.

>>6584196
Looking into it a little. In the anime, it isn't a tail, but it is still a part of him, as >>6584203 said.
In the manga, however, it's an 8-foot tail that he drapes over his shoulder so it doesn't drag on the ground. The only way to mortally wound him is to injure his tail.

>>6584181
I apologize for the fail at greentexting.
I am from Sweden actually. There are atleast some people that are cosplaying from LOTR and now with the release of The Hobbit I know even more people will cosplay from LOTR.

Rumiko Takahashi said she drew it like a boa, but too big.
It is supposedly part of his body as it can bleed. She even gave it a name. The fluff is officially called Mokomoko-sama. I shit you not.

>>6584216
I can second that.
The more I remember about this show, the worse it seemed to get after the first 30 episodes or so, when they changed directors or whoever it was.

>>6584225

As I am rewatching Inuyasha (I'm determined to finish the whole thing, no matter what) I can vouch for the first season being legitimately good, especially the first dozen or so episodes. It had a great atmosphere, and the art is really nice too. In my opinion it all starts to fall apart after Naraku becomes a major character, because he's (again, in my opinon) boring and shitty. I liked it best when they were travelling around fighting random demon-of-the-day to get shards instead of Naraku's same, redundant cronies every other episode.

>>6584225
I actually found the beginning to be kinda annoying. But yeah, the first anime wasn't that great to begin with. Imho Takahashi managed to fuck the manga up too with all the love shit between InuYasha, Kagome, Kouga and Kikyou. That and all the canon bashing InuYasha got (like the sit command) and Kagomes overall shitty character.

Still, I can't help but like this show. It was my first anime and will stay one of my guilty pleasures.

>>6584216
Is it me or was Inuyasha one huge horrific clusterfuck of a series?

I ate that shit up when I was younger and my neighbor always wanted to LARP from it. I thought that was a little weird but she was like nah nah my friend does this all the time.

She brought said friend over to play once and they got into a huge argument because she said she was going to marry Sesshomaru and my neighbor said you can't marry anime characters and she got super mad.

I always had an extremely Freudian affinity as a kid for characters portrayed as perverts so I thought Miroku was fucking cool. I was also gay for Sango and felt weird about liking a female character in a different way than normal.

Meeeeemories

>>6584229

I suppose we differ, then. I actually like Kagome a lot. In fact, I like the whole main cast, which is what makes it worth watching for me. The others... not so much. I've never read the manga though.

>>6584227
>>6584229
As bad as it was, it was also one of the first anime I ever saw, alongside Pokemon. First episode I saw was at a friend's house. He fell asleep in the first few minutes. It was the episode when the flea possesses Inuyasha. I still remember being completely clueless, but wanting to see more.

Someday I'll gather the courage to re-watch it all, for old time's sake.
God, I still have a few of the trading cards around here somewhere. I actually got Sesshomaru when I only ever bought like 40 cards, total. Was supposed to be some super-rare card, too.

>>6584234
There we go. My favorite 4 cards I owned as a kid.
Was so proud of that Ancient Mew I got from seeing the movie, and I freaked when I got Sesshomaru.

Kaliedo Star. Like I dont even think it has a fandom. But it's just SO BAD. And I dont even like it un ironically and I have no idea why it's so compulsively watchable for me. Maybe because I'm into the circus arts, but that just makes it worse since I keep thinking it's so horrid and so unrealistic to the point of blasphemy. Yet I still watch it, even though it frustrates me. Sometimes I wonder if I'm a masochist for enjoy such a bad show.

I've considered cosplaying it since some of the costumes are pretty cool, and I never see much cosplay of it anyways.

>>6583412
There -IS- a "yuricon"?

God, I wish I lived in the US.

>>6584258
There's also a 'yaoi- and yuri-con' in Germany.

>>6584259
Ahhh, I'm so jealous. ;_;

Where I live we barely get two or three usual cons a year and it's far smaller than most cons, let alone having public enough for that kind of specifics.
If I ever visit a country that has a yuri-con I'll make damn well sure I'll be there for the con.

>>6580552

You do realize that she writes both yaoi and shotacon with another name? She wrote "glamorous lip". Her editors tell her to tone down the yaoi, and get really rude with her about it. She steers away to keep from losing the series, they told her it was their condition for publishing it.

>>6580606

Series is actually pretty adorable, you'll like it. It's just one of those after-school sport animus, with WE CAN DO IT WE'RE THE UNDERDOGS.

Anyways, anime wise my guilty pleasure is those cheesy magical girl shows. Cyber Team in Akihabara, DoReMi, and anything else. I've probably seen almost every cheesy magical girl animu.

And fandom/weaboo wise, I'm a shameless shipper. If a show has a decent slash pairing and the fandom isn't too insane I'll watch the show. It's almost gone from anime nowadays, but I've moved on to tv and film. I stay the fuck away from those insane fandoms/shippers though, holy fuck.

Why does everybody hate Twilight Princess so much? I loved that game.

>>6584754

IDK! It's definitely one of my favorite Zelda games.. Their loss.

I used to really love Fruits Basket... It was a gateway anime.

If we're not just talking about anime, then my all time favorite guilty show is "Supernatural".
The fandom is insane, especially the shippers, and gat damn, If I see another nerdy kid put antlers on his head and call it a "Sam cosplay" or another annoying girl put a trenchcoat on and call it "girl Cas cosplay" I will cut them.

I just love me some Dean Winchester what can I say?

>>6580412
Why did Yana have to kill the circus kids!!!
>>crying over favorite ship being killed unceremoniously
But I agree the fandom is fucking NUTSO. I'm actually kind of scared to cosplay Beast now.

Tiger & Bunny. The show is enjoyable as fuck (a buddy-cop superhero anime - come on, that's a winning formula right there), and it has some really nice armor and suit designs that would make for incredible cosplays, but most of the fandom is more interested in Kotetsu-and-Barnaby buttsex and shitty Ivan cosplays.

I cosplay Red Sniper.

here's a random pic of my cosplay

>>6582986
I cosplay Red Sniper. yourself?

There's also a severe influx of autism when it comes to LARGE tf2 meetups I have noticed.

>>6584813
RED Soldier and RED Medic!

>>6584780
Preach it, brother.

>>6584829

Nice!

>>6584780
Seriously. There are so much amazing costume designs in Tiger and Bunny. I've yet to see a good Fire Emblem, or Nathan cosplay in general.

Art looks awesome when people are punched

Will cosplay again if I have a group

>>6580223
Same thing happened to me with MLP a couple years ago.

>have phase where "OMG its great" in February
>by May I'm already fucking done with the whole thing
>mfw people STILL see me as "that MLP guy"

Nothing worse.

>>6584775
I wouldn't worry about it, when I cosplayed Beast hardly anyone knew who I was even with the rest of the group. It's a relief to not get mauled for being one of the fangirl favourites, but also a little depressing to take pictures with a Ciel who doesn't even know who you are.

Also be prepared for dominitrix comments every five minutes.

>>6584094
I cannot for the life of me remember why I fangirled so hard over Sesshoumaru. I guess just the whole pretty wolf-boy thing got me. And his relationship with Rin was so charming.

>>6584869
Fortunately, when you do see a Nathan cosplayer, they're usually fantastic. I've seen two so far. They've both been men, and they've both been an acceptable degree of gay.

K-ON and Madoka

I find the fans unbearable. I like Madoka but it really isn't the best thing ever, but the fans seem to think so.

K-ON is just full of weebs.

Kuroshit, KH, Code Geass and FVII for me.

Kuroshit, I've been a fan ever since I discovered the first series of the anime (before it hit mainstream fandom). I got into the manga not long after. Much prefer that. Thankfully, not had much in the many of awful fandom stories as my friends and I have managed to cosplay from the show before it really took off where I'm based. I have heard of bad stories after we did. I'm planning on cosplaying from it again sometime in the future.

KH and FVII, pretty much the same as above. I haven't had any personal probs with any of the fandoms but know of friends who have. Planning on doing a KH costume sometime this year with some friends.

Code Geass, is a show I love. I haven't had chance to cosplay from it yet.

For the most part I have managed to avoid any horror stories. I think its down to the people I hang with and that I don't really take part in any major groups.

I'm gonna say Sailormoon, and I fear that with the new coming series there's going to be an even greater influx of them. I've cosplayed Usagi and Sailormoon a few times, and I'm working on Princess Sailormoon as we speak. My goal originally had been to make sure I finished most before summer to avoid the big bandwagon, but at the same time, new series could also mean new designs and some other awesome cosplays from others too.

>>6588442

You've been into it for so long, but you're calling Princess Serenity "Princess Sailor Moon?" Just own up to jumping the bandwagon, like everyone else. I already know this trend it going to ruin my childhood, so I'm not even caring anymore.

>>6580406
I simply adore cheeseball stuff like that. I'm ashamed to say that I only started watching it because of the Abridged series, but the dub won my heart.

Other than this, I'm really casualcore at games and anime.

Walking Dead.

Namely Daryl-kun <3

and Shane-chan t_t

I swear, if they kill off Daryl too I'm gonna stop watching it. It's a shame he's still kind of a side character. Shane used to be the only remotely interesting character in the main cast.

>>6588479
I hope you're a troll because it's pretty obvious to me that she's referring to the Pretty Guardian-exclusive character...

At least I hope so.

>>6584252
>Kaleido Star
>bad

Nooo, get out of here, Kaleido Star is great. I am a fellow circusfag and while the stuff she's asked to do is often completely ludicrous (backflips on swinging tightropes on boats in the rain...wat), and Kalos and that French dude would be in jail for the shit they put people up to, but that unrealistic element is part of what makes it fun. Sometimes there are little touches of realism that I appreciate though, like Sora getting blisters on her hands when she's learning trapeze, and being afraid after her fall during the mermaid audition because I've been through stuff like that.

However I will grant you that the second season (ep. 26 onward) is far inferior to the first and pushes the ludicrous challenges and irritating co-workers too far. But the first season is one of my favorites.

Erm, sorry for the tl;dr reply, I couldn't help myself. I love Kaleido Star.

Hetalia, I can't seem to get myself away from the series. I've had a few wtf moments in that fandom.
>Cosplayed as Germany
>Ended up surrounded by 5 North Italy cosplayers
>"Kiss me, Doitsu!"
>"Fuck, no"

Also, Final Fantasy. My first FF was 10, which I get a lot of shit for from the fandom. I did make an effort to play the previous final fantasy after I was introduced but its not good enough apparently. The fandom is filled with spoiled brats and it pisses me of because my family and I never had a TV to watch let alone play video games on till 2006. So I stopped mentioning and cosplaying from anything before FF7.

Death Note, Chobits, RoTG and Yuri.

I love all of these so much but I can't voice my love for them because my friends will go on about how shit-tier they all are.

Is it weird that I don't consider Pokemon a guilty pleasure? Maybe I just had an awesome pokemon scene at my college. Competitive gamer, primarily, but I enjoy casual gaming and fanfiction, mainly writing it (and I'll ship most het couples and a select few gays).

Naruto is my actual guilty pleasure. No shipping, though, I mostly just like the jutsu and fighting. However, manga lost the more complex introspection on human bonds a long time ago, about the time he retconned the Uchiha massacre. Anime has 1 good episode per 50-100 eps, and everything in between seems to have been the most uninspired production values, to say nothing of the fillers. And the fandom? What fandom? It's all hiveminded haters now. People who can't discuss why they hate naruto, but only do so to be in-sync with the rest of the crowd.

>>6588549
diff anon but I had no idea if she was referencing the PGSM character

either way princess sailor moon is unusual

>>6589333
I don't think Pokemon is much of a guilty pleasure, either.
If it's something almost everyone in our generation grew up with, or are at least pretty familiar with, most people are really chill with it.
Like being a Mario or Zelda fan. It's something even my grandparents recognize. Also, there's definitely the nostalgia factor that a lot of people have.

>>6588999
>cosplayed England
>various America cosplayers throughout the day making USUK references at me
>and calling me "Iggy"
>I'm a USUK fan as well, but fuck, back off
I know your pain, brother.

neither of these are anime but: adventure time and world of warcraft

>>6589343
The point is they were ranting about them not being a TROO FAN and yet didn't even know who Princess Sailor Moon is.

I really don't get what is 'unusual' about the character?

Sage for stupid offtopic drama.

Beyblade. But it's more to do with it's ridiculousness and the nostalgia rather than it having a terrible fandom (Unless I'm completely unaware of that possibility for the last 10 years of my life)

>>6589946
Fuck, I loved Beyblade. That opening was great, and I had my first animu crush from it.

>>6589948
Who? Is it Kai?

>>6589946
Oh man, Beyblade. That was the shit back in the day. The only reason I watched ABC Family, that and Medabots.

>>6589950
It was Ray, haha.
Also, I remember there being some redhead, he wore earrings, I believe, that I thought was ~kawaii uguu. I could be wrong though; it's been, like, ten years.

>>6580366
Through all my years of loving the games I actually never got myself into the fandom. I experienced it all first hand during the Zelda Symphony.

If the music wasn't so damn glorious, I would say I'd never go again. So much second hand embarassment.

Following on the Beyblade discussion, the guy who played Kai was also Glen Coco. Funny what you learn from the internet.

Tokyo Mew Mew. It was the first anime I ever watched in the original audio, and even though it's a ridiculously obvious copy of Sailor Moon, it still holds a place in my heart, and I could probably watch the anime anytime. As for cosplay, I have honestly considered cosplaying Mew Retasu/Lettuce because she's been my waifu for ages.

Aside from that, I really like Kingdom Hearts-games, and Final Fantasy VII. The shameful thing about the latter is that I have played it only for few hours, so my love for it is kinda based on Aerith on KH, and Advent Children. I should play FFVII more though, so far I've loved it (especially when I ignore the weebish side of the fandom).

>>6583432
Last time i looked at TF2Chan it was after one of my steamfriends lowballed the shit out of someone for some hat.

I couldnt fucking do it, it felt like stealing from children (DUHHH SURE I'LL GIVE YOU THIS HAT THAT WAS RELEASED TODAY FOR ONE REFINED)

>>6589946
Yes! Beyblade was the big thing at my school after Yu-Gi-Oh faded out.
Still have my collection around here. I was the top in my school with those and knew how good a Beyblade was by just looking at the parts. Was usually the guy everyone got advice from, or tested theirs against.
I stopped bringing mine since I got bored of no one being a challenge, and 2 weeks later I never saw a Beyblade at school again. Was really sad to see them go.

God, if it wasn't for the pure nostalgia, I'd be so embarrassed to actually tell someone that in person.
Anyone else still have theirs around?

My Little Pony; Friendship is Magic.

I don't cosplay from the series, but I try to act sweet and demure like Fluttershy. It works, surprisingly enough.

Maybe I should do some Yellowquiet cosplay just to appeal to the tiny group of people that find me cute.

I think they'd like that if I did it well.


Man... I'm not even going to deny being an attention whore at this point. What can I say? I'm lovin' it.

>>6584770

oh god the SPN fandom... don't even get me started

Bleach.

I know why it's bad and I know why it's good. It was one of my gateway drugs into anime, vidya and cosplay. I still read the manga because it's still got it's talons in me. The anime was just getting awful so I'm glad it ended when it did. It just would have been more painful filler. Here's to hoping I'll have Bleach Shippuden in five years.

The cosplay scene is absolute shit and I've done my best to control my no1curr rage over how awful dealers room captain cosplays are. I get kinda excited when I see someone just get their costume accurate let alone make it look good.

>>6594427

>implying the manga isn't god tier right now

>all those kubo-tier twists

>>6580366
I haven't been into Zelda games since Majora's Mask, and yeah I don't get the obsession with it, guess I just grew out of it..

>>6594430
Yeah it's mostly good right now because Kubo is following up on backstory setups he established thousands of chapters ago. I don't even mind the Zero Squad they already seem more interesting than the Fullbringers. Though I've been burned so much in the past I try not to get my hopes up. Nine more years to go.

it's not anime and I usually hate stoner comedy, but I love Workaholics. It's really funny and the fact that the dudes are all longtime best friends in real life sells it for me.

>>6588856
I think the second season is just baaaaad (but I still like it and watch it) but I will agree the first season isnt bad, I would even call a lot of episodes good. The second season just frustrates me to no end because of Mai. I mean she's better in the later half of the season but she's just one of those ani heros I hate so much, and I"m not sure if that makes her a good anti hero or not since your not supposed to like her but she's just frustrating.

(also yay more circus fags, which reminds me I need to go stretch still today)

It does have some realistic moments, I like those, like yeah blood blisters on feet, those happen, and they hurt like all living hell and your hands are going to get blistered and bruised while working trapeze. And my favorite episode is the episode of fear after the mermaid thing. (also that's one part of season two that bothered me, like when they criticized her for not trusting Leon as a partner. No she has a legit reason to not want to perform with him. I dont care about your talent you cant bend gravity and stop your self from falling if he doesnt catch you. No. I would not perform with some one like him EVER)

I think what bugs me is her learning these techniques SO FAST. Like, no, how did you do that? Or (I mostly see this in season two) she cant do it cause of physical limitations like lack of balance or lack of legs strength, but then meeting some one gives her more motivation? And some how that physical impossibility is no longer an impossibility? And yeah Kalos is not a good boss, so many of those actors should have been fired for so many things (Mai, the hell, how did she not get fired? Just no you dont interrupt a performance!

But in the end I have to admit I still really like it and I get all happy when when watching it, and kinda happy to see theres another person out there who likes it.

>>6594669
Also the one thing I do really like about season two, is that her arch goes from just being a performer for re discovering it's about the audience. I think that was the one major thing of season two I really agreed with. Because as cool as it is to be an awesome performer, your there because of the audience, you dont get to keep making money if they arent happy to watch you perform. And almost every performer I know from my local circus com got into performing because they liked to make folks smile while performing, I mean obviously every ones got their own reasons but that's a big one and it was my reason. So I really like that they emphasized that.

For my over all tl;dr, yeah show can be really bad, but I do still like it and after thinking about it a bit and marathoning it again the other day, I realize a bit more why I enjoy it.

Also the dub is so atrocious if you ever get the chance to listen to it. It makes me laugh so hard to the point I actually general watch it dubbed now for the extra laughs.

Nobody shall ever know that I ship.

My friends know that I am a fan of the marvel/dc comic universes, as well as a fan of south park and mlp but no... just no. (implying I have friends outside of the Internet.)
At least the yuri would be somewhat explainable, seeing as I identify as lesbian irl, but my greatest fear is somebody finding my frostiron/kenman fanfiction.

Also, hiddlestoners in general. Nice people, but batshit insane (and I say this as one of them)
Nobody shall ever know my power-level, although I will admit to wanting a friend who shares my interests.

>>6594701
Also, I'm pretty sure I would be thrown In jail for the rest of my life if I ever spoke of my love for Kodomo no jikan

>>6588532
>>6588532
>TFW no one else watches AMC's Walking Dead

>>6594237
>I don't cosplay from the series, but I try to act sweet and demure like Fluttershy. It works, surprisingly enough.
Are you a faggot or what? Guys are supposed to act Alpha.

>>6594758
You must be new here.

Please go back to the hole you crawled out of.

OP here, glad that this thread has gotten such a good response!

I said I never would again, but I guess I'm cosplaying Grell once more, going to give it an overhaul. The fandom is batshit insane, but I still like the series for some reason. Also going to cosplay Ronald and R-shitei Grell, I just got an urge to do stuff with the series again.

And I dread when the Sailor Moon bandwagon starts. Everyone on tumblr talking about how much they love Sailor Moon when they never cared before.

>>6594855
>And I dread when the Sailor Moon bandwagon starts. Everyone on tumblr talking about how much they love Sailor Moon when they never cared before.

This attitude is fucking stupid. If you were a girl between the ages of like 5 and 10 or so when the anime came out in 1996, it was a part of your childhood. Quit pretending you're special for liking it and that all the "new fans" aren't as good a fan as you. It's as bad as pretending to be special for liking Pokemon.

>>6594861
I never quiet got that either. Like how do you not like Sailor Moon? I've never been super excited about the anime, but I watched all the time as a kid, and I always feel happy seeing good art of it. I'm happy it's getting a reboot (and praying for a good dub ast this time)

The only time I'm a little perplexed is when I see 13-15 year olds going about watching it all the time on TV as a kid... I mean maybe it was? But I dont remember it being on air past 2000.

Who knows maybe their parents showed it to them all the time or there really was a channel still playing the english version in the 2000's.

>>6594866
I think Toonami very briefly played it around 2000 or so?

>>6594861
>>6594866

I suppose you're right, I am being a prick about it. I guess with all the crazy bandwagons I've gotten wary and protective of everything, but that's no way to act. I'll welcome new fans with open arms so long as they behave themselves.
I mean you're right, it's Sailor Moon, and I'm not that old of a fan myself, so I have no room to talk.
Besides, the fandom could use some new energy!

>>6594891
Eh we all have our prick moments. I've seen way worse man.

I get getting a bit protective over fandoms. Historically when fandoms get big.... bad shit follows hitched like a cheap trailer to the bandwagon. (See; Homestuck, Naruto, Death Note, Hetalia, any thing that got absurdly popular at one point or another)

But it could use new energy yeah. I mean SM has this odd ability to have been ever lasting really in fandom eyes, I've seen good artwork of it for as long as I can remember first logging into the internet, but I'm glad to see more of it now that folks are excited for the reboot. Hopefully after the reboot it manages to have a bit more activity in it than usual.

>>6594756
this

>>6594891
I've enjoyed Sailor Moon since I was in middle school when it first came to the US. I collected the Mixx issues and the volumes when it had bad translations and all that.

So I feel a bit possessive of it, but it'll be nice to see some newer fans. What bothers me is the fans who insist that if you're not keeping up with the latest news, or you haven't seen every episode, then you're not a real fan.

I also don't understand why Sailor Moon collectors spend so much money on cheap toys. I don't think they're all that impressive. I couldn't justify spending over 50$ for something like that.

As for my guilty pleasures I enjoy KH, Final Fantasy, mostly Aeris because I love white mages, Sailor Moon, Evangelion, Escaflowne and a bunch of older JRPGs and anime.

It's mostly a guilty pleasure because I can't find anyone in my age group (late 20's) who are chill and just want to watch some anime and talk about it, but not obsess over it.

>>6584227
You know I actually finished it this summer. I started watching it when I was 13 but I only really got bits and pieces. This time I watched the whole thing in order, including Kanketsu-hen. It was a great experience, not gonna lie. I fell in love with the series again like before, despite the flaws. And the ending was incredibly satisfying for me.

I am now full of warm fuzzy feelings. Yes. This series is definitely a guilty pleasure for me.

Currently, SAO is starting to get this way for me. I know it wasn't deep or groundbreaking or whatever BUT I DON'T CARE it was pretty with good music, I love Asuna and Kirito and it gave me so many feels.

Also, there's shows I love but I kind of avoid the fandoms. Higurashi was my top favourite anime for about six years but right now it seems a good majority of the fans are sixteen year olds who think they're being so edgy desu cause it's gory and sooo dark. Maybe I'm being completely unfair because I was probably one of them before. I also don't talk about Adventure Time much just because I'm in the process of watching it and casual enjoying it and I'm not interested in shipping or shenanigans of the sort.

>>6595230
I've been catching up with SAO now that I have time and I just really like the environment and how the MMO's work. It's so fun.

The hunter episode got me, I don't care if she's a loli trope, I just want her to be happy with her pet.

Inuyasha is another one of my favourite older animes that I still enjoy. I haven't seen the full series because I don't like fillers but I did like watching the dub; which I usually don't prefer. I started reading the manga a while ago and I'm rather enjoying it.

>>6595230
I am TOTALLY fucking sick of the Adventure time fandom.

its just HERP DERP SHIPPING 24/7

Pic related

Why does everyone hate TP? It's my second favourite console zelda game.

>>6595978
Wolf link.
STUPID fucking design decisions (the spinner slowing down in about 5 feet making it useless unless there was a track for it, the "move robots around" stick being used in one dungeon only, taking for fucking ever to get the sword in the beginning)

>>6595945
>>6595230
Man I don't even go near the AT fandom for that reason.

I'm like the only one who doesn't like Flame Princess and apparently that's wrong because her and Finn canonly kissed.
Not to mention the fans who buy shit from Hot Topic.

I really love the theory discussions, but no ship-n-spazz. No.

>>6595124
i'll talk about escaflowne with you anon~! i know it's an older anime but it's still my favorite series to this day. it's just unfortunate that the fandom is pretty much dead/non-existant. pic related is my dream cosplay... even if it is a fanart.

>>6595978
It's a stupid as fuck game all together. Mostly because of Nintendo's bad choice of including a Mary Sue character, and not only that, making her the MAIN character and pushing Link and Zelda out of the spotlight. Midna ruined it, it really could have been a cool game without her.

>>6596857
Not that anon but FUCK YES
My entire desktop background folder is screenshots from the BluRay of the Escaflowne movie. Oh god I love Escaflowne why is it so dead...

My dream is to cosplay her outfit from that village in the movie, with the big red bow in the front... its hard to justify spending the money on cosplaying from something that's dead too. Too bad because my boyfriend is the spitting image of movie Van.

>>6602735
I cosplay from old shit all the time. Everyone loves it. You should make the costumes you want, not the costumes that are popular and most recognizable.

>>6602735
>villain turned out to be a chick
>who was the missing princess
Yeah I remember when I thought Escaflowne was cool
....then it just got ...bad.
I'm sorry but I HATED that cop out cliche.

>>6602735
Different anon, I really like Escaflowne (haven't seen the film)... The ending was kinda annoying though with what they did with the love story,

>>6596857

I will also talk Escaflowne too.
We watched ALL of it in like a 3PM to 6 AM marathon back in like 1999 or something. Man that was a good series with really good music. Yoko Kanno is some kinda genius for being able to write so well. I still have the TV theme and the Yubiwa song on my playlist.

I think we almost did that with Fushigi Yuugi too but that took us a week to watch. Man I miss seeing all the FY and Esca cosplay at cons.

We miss out on some great costuming because at the time these shows were popular we were short on wig techniques & fabric possibilities. If done now they could be really spot on.

>>6602735
>its hard to justify spending the money on cosplaying from something that's dead too

Make the costumes of characters you like. Do not be influenced by just what is popular.
At the very least you can get a group together and make it the popular thing when you attend a con.
And furthermore, being popular at a con isn't the total focus anymore anyways. People go on photoshoots and post it every damn where which makes them popular.

Honestly though, just do what you like.

>>6602746

are you talking about Magic Knights Rayearth?

>>6602746
>>6602758
Yeah the entire final act was basically wait wat how could you end it like that. What the hell.
I like everything up to like... the last 4 or 5 episodes. Fuck I'm going to go dig out my old dusty DVD boxset... Escaflowne and Eureka Seven are the ONLY anime I still own.

The ending actually reminds me of the Golden Compass book series (His Dark Materials). Man it was so good, I was so into it, then BAM cop-out you can never be together because fate or some shit ending. Just like fucking Escaflowne. Pic related, how I felt at the end of Escaflowne.

For some reason I felt like the movie handled it better even though it was technically the same.

>>6602737
You're right anon... its just that I'm poor as shit and there are other cosplays I want to do that are more relevant. But that said I'm planning on cosplaying Yorda from Ico and that is an old as shit niche video game.

>>6585375
My body is ready.
But thanks, I am glad I'll have my bf as Joker as well with me (part of the reason I wanted to do the outfit in the first place, also boobs.)

>>6602902
Its good to have a Joker with you! Overall I had a good time in the costume, there were a few comments but easily ignored. The good part about looking like a bondage queen is you intimidate the fuck out of everyone around you, creepers included.

Despite the fact I got a lot more male attention than usual I got less pictures because people were afraid to come up to me.

>>6602924
Lol yay. Keep the creepers at bay. I am super excited for it though just cause their outfits are really pretty to me, if I can just pull off her difficult top.
This and Mitsuru's catsuit are going to intimidate any creepers enough that I should be safe. With Kuro the worst is doing Ciel or Sebby just because fangirls and... insane Grells.

InuYasha was my guilty pleasure. The series itself was so god damn messy and the characters were annoying as hell, but I loved it. I'm usually good at hiding my power levels, but when I bought the entire series I would wake up at 5am just to watch it before school. I'm still know most of the OP's. ugh

>>6602941
The top is a real bitch, pretty much the worst part of the costume. If I could go back and redo it I would just cover a bra with vinyl and build the bodice around it, way easier.

>>6602964
As I'm finding out. I have her stockings done, made a lace front from scratch (it was...rather time consuming but not that hard) her skirt done and gloves, just need the sash and top. I was thinking of maybe recovering an underbust corset and recycling an old bra with the right fit. Would that work?

homestuck reporting in

i actually have some stuff from the topatoco store but i make a point to never wear any of it in public because of this one time i got dressed in the dark and ended up wearing my dave shirt

i didn't bother changing because i thought it'd be fine and people who recognized it wouldn't freak out too much but then this awful screechy fan came up to me when i was walking to class and started yelling about homestuck and it was terrifying

tl;dr i'm dumb and other homestucks have taught me the importance of hiding my power level (does that term apply here)

i'm also a closet sherlockian because i'm just really ashamed of some parts of the fandom (i'm looking at you rabid johnlock shippers) and i don't want to be at all associated with them

>>6602970
Wow I just bought my lacefront, hardcore.

I think you could do it that way, probably. It might be a lot easier as long as you're good at piecing stuff together and make a back panel to hide the corset lacing area etc.

I made mine a one piece corset and built the bra cups myself and wanted to die. It didn't turn out 100% perfect because vinyl is not a great material for bra-cups, but it wasn't terrible.

>>6602985
I am Frankenstien. I can piece together a lot and make it look decent. Lord give me patience to get this done.
It's not that hardcore.. just... time consuming. It was actually kind of therapeutic. At least I got the perfect curls for the back and didn't have to destroy hair in the front to do it...

>>6602989
Good luck! From one Beast to another, I would never wish the misery that is that bodice on anyone... but I'm excited to see it. Circus arc was the best arc.

i'm so fucking terrified to let anyone know that i like yaoi/animu in general ugh

Anon who posted originally about Escaflowne. I'm glad to see that there are still fans of it despite the community being dead. Yay.

I'm on my phone and it doesn't copy quotes but I enjoy that fanart piece and I think you should definitely cosplay it.

Any cosplay from Escaflowne would be awesome really.

I also enjoy MKR. It was one of the first manga series I read as a kid and I loved the detail CLAMP drew for action scenes. Though I must say I'm not a fan of the second half of MKR but I have read it.

>>6602980

Hiding your power levels is the key to everything. Also, your pic is the best. Admittedly that's my face when I think of Homestuck, but your ability to be chill about your fandoms is what's awesome.

I think that's the key for ANYONE with a "guilty pleasure" or who is in one of these massive fandoms like HS or APH. Hiding power levels lets you like the series but not interact with the weebs.

It's also a sign of maturity.

Btw, is that your cat? I just really love that cat.

Yugioh 5Ds.

I want to cosplay Yusei because I'm appropriately tan with sharp eyes because I'm half arab/egyptian and think I'd do a good job... but that crazy hair and tacky outfit, all of my friends laugh when I even mention it.

I've heard the YGO fandom is insane, but I've never interacted with them. The only people I know who like it are into the original series and obsessed with Malik, and hate 5Ds.

I love Malinda-chan's Yusei costume and wig, but it annoys me that she's so pasty which is really petty. I'm just jelly because she's living my dream, I guess.

>>6581427
You're an Anju? I'm a Kafei.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who dislikes Midna. Zelda has always been one of those series' that I never ever wanted to ship anyone in, because it wasn't about that. It was about the story and the fun if going through dungeons and defeating ganon. I hate how shippy its gotten.

I like Hetalia, Kuroshitsuji, and Homestuck. I've made so many friends because of those Fandoms honestly. The only bad experience I've had with them is while Cosplaying Grell, I got treated horridly by another Grell who wanted my Sebastian. My Sebastian had to calmly remind the girl that neither of us were actually Grell or Sebastian, so she could stop shouting about "Fake Grell taking her Bassy."

On an unrelated note, current arc is Harry potter and its getting old fast.

>>6609429
As a fellow Grell, I'm there on the cosplayers.
I almost feel guilty cosplaying Grell again when the fandom is so nuts. They all think that Grell is this cutsey trans girl that's overly emotional and sweet.
When Yana said that Grell is just a fag with a screw loose, but then the social justice warriors get mad about you misgendering "her"

>>6603362
Meh, CLAMP pretty much only made the second half because readers were so upset about the first part's ending.

>>6609744
You should've seen the shitstorms about "her" in /cm/. Thank goodness there's barely any Kuroshit threads there anymore since the fanbase has died down a lot. Even some of the harder to get merchandise is pretty easy to nab on Mandarake for decent prices.

hmmm guilty pleasure?
>talking in anime voices
>singing anime songs
>vocaloid

I really dislike hetalia and most of the homestuck fandoms I have ever met, they usually segregate themselves and refuse to accept anything else is good or worth their time.

My guilty pleasures
Fire Emblem (the video game series) - Elitists. Elitists everywhere. Fuck the Fire Emblem fandom with a burning passion. Same such a great SRPG series is poisoned by the fandom. Slowly getting the attention of weeabos sadly.

Katawa Shoujo - Lonely sad little niggas who either never played a visual novel or refuse to play one that isn't Katawa Shoujo. And if you do not like a female character or defend Hisao (because he's just an average teenager who got the wrong deal in life with his heart issues), get ready to basically get gang raped by the fandom. Boarderline weeabs but full of lonely men who only played this vusal novel because they thought it was gonna be full on cripple whore fuckin'.

Final Fantasy - The teen emo angst phase is starting to die down a bit but just a little. Still full of weeabos however.

My Little Pony - I actually do enjoy some of the characters in the series. The fandom is the main reason I do NOT want to watch it however. Please, somebody give me a shot gun or an AK so I can blast 'em. Had a friend who's a brony and mocked me for not liking MLP and tried to force me to watch it.

Comic Books - The source of the "Fake geek girls" he-man/woman hating club shit. Sorry, but I kinda left that shit behind when I was about 5. I'm 23 hitting 24 and I still see comic book nerds on that He-Man/Woman Hater club shit.

>>6594756
I just started watching it recently, like 2 days ago.. I just finished season 2 on Netflix but am waiting for AMC to re-air some of s3.
I didn't know Norman Reedus was in it, I literally squealed "BOONDOCK SAINTS!" when he came on the screen. I like the show so far though.

Moving on, there hasn't really been any anime that I've been super crazy about lately.
I really like Sukitte Ii Na Yo, although the tv show doesn't do the manga any justice.
I LOVE, love Shigofumi. Favorite show honestly.
I'll just go down the list of shows I fancy.
>Deadman Wonderland
Despite it cutting out some stuff from the manga, and censoring.
>Naruto:Shippuden
Honestly, I've never been a big Naruto fan.. But I catch my boyfriend watching it sometimes, and I can't help but get caught up in the story line. I'd love it if we did a couple cosplay of HinataxNaruto, but I don't really know much about the show
>Zelda
I'll say this right now, I've never beat a Zelda game. But I loveeee playing the games, ocarina of time, wind waker, phantom hourglass. I feel terrible for saying I'm a fan when I've never beat any of the games. I will someday though..
Erm yeah.. not a lot of shows I'm hugely into..

>Sailor Moon
I'm very much dreading the influx of bandwagon-hoppers who've never watched the show or read the manga beyond a couple of episodes on TV, don't know what a "moonie" was (if you were a part of the online fandom in the 90s, you would have heard that word), yet claim to have been a "huge fan" since the show came on North American TV. Not dreading the new fans much, but I'm gonna hate the oldfag bandwagon-hoppers and people who only join the fandom now because it's suddenly cool to be a Sailor Moon fan.

>MLP
I collected ponies when I was little (I'm female), and I like bright and colorful cartoons. Casual bronies are cool most of the time, but not the ones who are virgin-for-life, spend 1000s of dollars on overpriced custom figures and plushies, argue online all day about how PinkieDash is OMGSOCANON, fap to awful fanfiction, and would rather stick their dick in a MLP plushie someone sewed a vagina into than go out and look for a real, human woman.

>Gundam Wing
Old show no one cares about anymore, but god, the fandom was so full of annoying and stupid 14 y/o fangirls and het-vs.-gay bullshit back in the day. Like holy flying fuck. Hetalia and Homestuck are what would be equal these days, and I'm so glad I'm not into those because it's much worse now.

>Madoka
Some idiots have to get over the fact that Madoka is not entirely original, and is not the first dark-and-edgy magical girl series. Not to mention, the characters aren't as OMG DEEP as some of the fans go on about. Still a cool show, though.

>Evangelion
Fandom makes me angry for similiar reasons to why Madoka fandom makes it angry. It's philisophical, but it's not the most deep and artsy anime of all time. Even more rage to those oldfags who accuse every mecha series made after it of being a rip-off.

>>6594756
>Walking Dead

>>6610436
>argue online all day about PinkieDash

Yeah, what a waste of time. FlutterDash should be everyone's OTP.

Anyway, my guilty pleasures:
>MLP
>Any series with cute, sappy lesbian couplings (Maria-sama ga Miteru, Strawberry Panic, etc).
>Sailor Moon (My first fictional crush was on Sailor Mercury when I was six years old).

>Tokyo Mew Mew
I admit that the manga is shit and the anime is shit. I don't deny that. But I get so much kicks out of Kisshu and Ichigo (pic very related) I just squee all over them every time they share a scene and hate the fact that Ichigo chose that bullshit Aoyama over Kisshu who actually had a personality richer than a paper bag, unlike Aoyama. I have a hidden thing for magical girls in general too, after like 14 years I still love Sailor Moon too and everything about it.

>Other cutesy frilly+shiny animu stuff
I'm a well adjusted adult who mostly likes a bit more grittier and serious stuff and probably the type you'd never think that likes stuff like this. Sometimes I wish I'd have one day to be 12 again and juts go full-blown weeaboo on everyone without looking like the queen of autism. 90's anime openings and huge 90's hairstyles and eyes fill me with glee, and so do detailed beautiful jRPG character designs and visual novel school uniforms.

>>6594756
Correction: No one reads the comic.

Fucking Negan > The Governor.

>>6610436
>those oldfags who accuse every mecha series made after it of being a rip-off
there actually were a few of wannabe Eva mecha shows in the 90's, stuff like Brain Power'd or however its spelled, but really that fad didn't last long. Eva also kind of got this weird little subgenre of mecha started too, or at least got it more attention. the kind of stuff that you cant really consider real robot or super robot stuff, best examples I can think of are King Gainer or Eureka Seven

>>6610554
This is bullshit on so many levels. Governor has goddamn eyepatch.

>>6610560
Oh, I know that many shows really were inspired by Eva. I'm talking about the guys who are like "it has giant robots piloted by teenagers? Must be an Eva rip-off!".

>>6610574
p-people actually say that? that's been a thing since like the 70's... fuck i need to go punch something

>>6609890
/cm/ dramu, do tell

>>6609744

That is so weird... I mean, isn't that completely taking the character WAY out of context to turn them trans. Like, shouldn't people SJW about the fact they're changing a character's identity? I am not someone to hate on trans people, but what is the internet/Tumblr community's obsession with different gender identities now. Is it the "it" thing like bisexual used to be?

>overly emotional and sweet

Yeah chainsaws are totally sweet. Grell has more than a screw loose, but that's what makes HIM so fun.

>>6609890
The threads always on /y/ seem to be filled with 14 year olds who want porn or wank about the shota aspects of the series. Though I'm kinda glad the fandom has backed down some, it always seemed to attract the same types Hetalia does: yaoi obsessed hambeasts. Don't get me wrong, I love me some yaoi, but I have NEVER understood people who try and act out their fantasies irl on some random cosplayer at a con. Why does this shit happen? I have a hard time telling if they're really delusional, or are just legitimately pretending but stay IC all the time.

I've also never understood the Sebastian obsession. He is going to eat your soul. What is remotely sexy about a guy who is probably 24/7 thinking about taking your soul?

>>6610574
...Eva exists BECAUSE "giant robots piloted by teenagers" was so fucking common.

It wouldn't be a deconstruction if there was nothing to deconstruct.

>>6610915
Becuase in the character guide Grell says he wants a sex change (even though that's the Japanese stereotype for gay men, they all want to be women) and Yana says that he's only wanting it to get some dick.
But no, saying that makes him a serious MTF woman that wants love and respect despite torturing and mutilating 5 hookers.

>>6610973

I mean, that is a huge stereotype in general and I don't get why the SJW get pissy about people not taking their headcanon seriously instead of saying, "Okay, what's really the issue is the permanent feminization of gay men in culture." But it's just a manga, and from the way you put it and the way Yana said it, it really sounds like a joke. Even though it's a sad reality that a lot of gay men in non-Western countries do feel a sex change is their only option (I mean, Iran carried out more sex change operations than any other nation if that tells you anything).

People just get butthurt about the wrong thing. Maybe it's also part of the fetish people have for the villain and idealize and idolize that type of character despite their evil doings? I don't completely conceptualize Grell as a villain, but he's certainly antagonistic in the story, and that's not to say he doesn't have redeeming qualities.

But if people want to SJW about something, why not the fact that in an even truer Japanese stereotype, yet again the gay man is once again used as comic relief AND takes on the villainous role as someone who mutilates women (out of some implied hatred of women). It's the demonized yet comedic homosexual which is all too common in Japanese media. I'm not trying to be a SJW, I just am so boggle by fans who will project and read something hardly factual and get upset about it in the name of being SJW but completely miss the true "injustices" if you want to go that route.

>>6611051
Because in tumblr slacktivist circlejerk land defending a fictional trans-person gets you more ass pats than calling out actual negative stereotypes of gay people

>>6611070

I really hate that what you said is true, but I love the way you said it. I feel like that should be a poster. And I may just have to design that.

>>6610923
Fuck off to TVTropes faggot.

>>6610915
>The threads always on /y/ seem to be filled with 14 year olds who want porn or wank about the shota aspects of the series. Though I'm kinda glad the fandom has backed down some, it always seemed to attract the same types Hetalia does: yaoi obsessed hambeasts

i watch black butler for the plot

>>6611051
I feel like it's the reverse in America. In Japan, they often think gay people are actually trans; in America, we often think trans people are actually gay.

>>6611277
keyword is watch. alois isn't even in the manga animufag.

>>6611292
alois is god tier, can't believe i had to endure a season of ciel

dem blonde shota daddy issues

>>6611281

Well, if you examine the cultures, Japan has more of a history of people donning clothes from the opposite gender or taking on the opposite gender's identity in entertainment, i.e. kabuki and takarazuka. However, I would say that there IS a distinction made between people who PLAY the opposite gender, sexual orientation, and actual transgendered individuals. No one in Japan would call a kabuki actor playing a female a homosexual, but certainly those are homosocial types of theater one might go so far as to consider "queer" (especially with takarazuka, given that the fanbase for that is female, so it takes on my of a lesbian identity than say, kabuki, which doesn't have such a homogenous fanbase).

>>6611363

Continued, because I'm long winded.

Crossdressing is very much stigmatized in the West and while crossdressers in the stereotypical sense are stigmatized in Japan, it is at odds with their cultural history of gender segregated theater roles. But yes, in Japan the idea of a masculine homosexual doesn't really exist in heterosexual media as they conflate "gay" with female. The hyper masculine homosexual images come from homosexual media like bara comics. It is further compounded by the female ideal of a gay man as the perfect love (yaoi comics and the "gei bumu" all feed into this mindset), however, I would strongly argue that women are increasingly accepting of the "gay" label on their bishounen men.

At the same time, you have issues like gay rights and "coming out" becoming more public (not any less stigmatized) but what people don't realize it that until the West imported sexology in the late 1800s, Japan did not have the concept of "the homosexual." There was no such concept of a man or woman who had same-sex feelings as their sole romantic desire. There were surely same-sex liasons and literature, but the idea that someone is born or has a certain specific desire for the same sex is a Western import to Japan. So you don't really have the idea of a gay man who comes out, has a partner, and lives his life more or less openly with that partner. There are still the cultural expectations that, even if you're gay, you should get married to a woman and have kids, no matter who you sleep with on the side. The issue isn't that a guy sleeps with a guy (though you shouldn't flaunt it or talk about it), it's the issue that a guy who sleeps with guys JUST wants to do that and may want to spend the rest of his life with this guy and not have a wife AT ALL. It disrupts gender and societal norms. Which is why the gay rights movement in Japan has such a hard time of things. You're trying to promote equality and a lifestyle that didn't exist until recently.

>>6610848
I don't have much to tell because /cm/ never really gets to catastrophic levels when it comes to drama (the board's been borderline dead since 2010 and there was one large incident involving a troll spamming Hetalia threads), but from what I saw the threads would devolve into arguments regarding the differences between shotacons/pedophiles/those people that aren't pedos because they want to bone teenagers (can't remember what that's called), laws regarding the age of consent, whether or not someone who reads/watches the series and has feels for Alois or Ciel is a pedo, and of course someone that would go on huge tangents trying to defend that Grell is in fact a female and needs to be referred in the feminine pronoun.

I'll admit I'm not even a Kuroshitsuji fan, I've barely seen anything from the anime or read much of the manga. But what drew my attention to their threads and what turned out to be a lot of entertainment was all the tumblr/livejournal-esque immaturity and drama that stood out like a sore thumb compared to all the other posts on the board. Each thread would always end up with arguing to the point of deletion, and the majority of the pictures posted would end up being bad Deviantart fanart, thumbnails from Tumblr or reposted official art/manga panels.

And in an even more bizarre twist of events on one occasion there was a pair of posters that wouldn't stop using the thread like a chat room to the chagrin of the other anons, and from one referring to the other by their name, and this other person namefagging I was able to figure out they were two girls I used to go to high school with. I had to sit this one out to see what would happen.

>>6611372

*Until the West exported sexology to Japan.

Sorry, just realized the grammatical error there.

>>6611373

Whenever I'm on /cm/ now it seems like people constantly wank about tumblrfags, how the board is dead and why would anyone use it there are a ton of imageboards (so I don't know why they're on there then....), Rise of the Guardians or fandom of the week wank, etc.

Though technically, Black Butler isn't shotacon after Ciel turns 13. Shota, by the Japanese definition, is children 12 years old or younger. There's also no age of consent for males in Japan (which is SO problematic when dealing with sexual abuse/assault cases, in part because "rape" is only used for women and when men are raped it's still called "sexual assault"), so the distinction is really there for females since the age of consent is 13. So in Japan, if you're 12 or younger, it's child porn. If you're 13, you're old enough to have sex!

Of course, in the West it's viewed differently, to put it mildly.

>>6611382
Yeah, I know about the cultural differences and whatnot. I just don't see why people get so ruffled about something that's a work of fiction. Same thing with a lot of the drama that occurs here and on other boards. But at the same time it is some damn good entertainment.

>>6610571
Negan has Lucielle. Which automatically renders him the better one.

Though currently it's like Carl > Fucking everyone.

>>6611308

I like them both, for different reasons. My face when I can't get my 4'10 gf to Cosplay as either.

>>6611363
>>6611372
Very interesting! Worth the long post.

>>6611451
Sad day....
:(

>>6611382
>Age of consent is 13

Not again.13 is the all encompassing, basic lowest age of consent. It's there so teenage couples can't be arrested for having consensual sex, not so adults can go around fucking 13 year olds. Different regions have their own usually higher ages of consent.

>>6612020

Yes, and I realize that, but when the age of consent is that low (even to protect teenage couples) it says something about the Japanese legal system and the overall sexual psyche.

However, there are other countries with low ages of consent, or a low median age for when people lose their virginity. The differing factor in Japan is the generally lax legal attitude towards child pornography. It wasn't criminalized until 2001 (after intense international pressure) and it is legal to own. You can't make it or sell it or buy it, but you can own child pornography. Virtual child pornography is completely fine, though as of late they have taken more steps to censor these materials and make them less obviously available.

I was also discussing it in the context of sexual assault as the low age of consent does pose legal issues (even though rape rates are decreasing in Japan). But there is overwhelmingly a cultural acceptance of sexual depictions of children and the sexualization of youth (whether the Japanese people individually feel this way, or as a whole openly accept that their culture accepts this... i.e. the American gun culture: it's there, not everyone accepts it's part of that culture, but generally, yes, America has an openly accepted gun culture).

Speaking from a shota perspective though, that's not really anything new for children/youth to be sexually viewed. Historically, the wakashu of the wakashudo/shudo practices of the Edo period are perhaps predecessors to the contemporary shota ideal.