/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

OP you might not be aware but some online wigs stores have a problem with advertising the right product color.

>>6549655
looks orange in that picture OP

>>6549660
>>6549661
/cgl's most unsuccessful trolls

I hate blue dress Ariel's who wear t-shirt's under their bodices.

>>6549665
3/10 would "troll"

>>6549672
that is a sin.

Anyone who takes a male character that's supposed to be a badass and rule 63s them with a trampy design. One example is female Altairs/Ezios/Connors with tons of leg, cleavage, and midriff. The game has multiple courtesan designs; if you want to be a hooker, just dress up as one of them. Or slutty Master Chiefs; the guy runs around all day getting shot at, what purpose would exposing your vital organs serve? I know that's not the point, but really, there's dozens of skimpy designs out there. If you want to be half-naked, just do one of those.
Also, people who walk up to you at cons and accuse you of being inaccurate. I had a costume recently that included a pair of brown thigh-highs and pink heels, and some guy asked if they were supposed to be boots. I said no, because in the references, you can clearly see the dividing line between where the heels end and the rest of the foot begins. Then he...asked if I was sure? Like I hadn't played 40+ hours of the game and did I even know what I was cosplaying? I think my brain melted a little after that.

>>6549704
Who were you cosplaying as?

>>6549718
Red Mage Viera. It's a little ambiguous in the Advance art, but in A2's, you can clearly see the line from the shoe to the foot. The shoe also has stitching detail and even details that make it look almost like dress shoes. In any case, definitely not boots.

>>6549704
>Also, people who walk up to you at cons and accuse you of being inaccurate

Fucking this. I had the misfortune running into a fucker who would judge people's military style cosplay and bitch about pouch placements, knife placements and gun sights and etc. and he stunk like shit.

Guys who think they're funny when they dress in dresses with excess body hair. It was funny about ten years ago, now it's just overdone and a cheap laugh.

>>6550369
It happens cause it still works

>>6549704
I cannot agree with this more

>>6550581
Isn't this kinda like a win-win situation?

>>6550581
Yes and no. Sometimes nice to look at but you're always going to have the people who cry and whine over it.

>>6550595
Just call them nerds. Problem solved.

Along the same lines as >>6549704 and >>6549725
People who go up to you and proceed to tell you how much they hate the series/character you're cosplaying. Fuck those people.

And, Since no one else has brought it up yet- heels on characters who do not wear them and inaccurate shoes in general.

>>6550607
I'll argue the heels on characters that don't wear them. For the most part none of us have the 6ft long anime giraffe legs and would look more inaccurate with short, stumpy legs than we would be a 2" heel you can't see from the front.

Giant platform hooker heels like the japanese sometimes wear? No. Subtle pumps and kitten heels in place of flats (because no woman looks her best in flats) yes?

>>6550609
kitten heels are satans work

>>6550609
We have different definitions of accuracy and that's okay. Personally, I'd rather see a well done cosplay with accurate shoes done by someone with less than animu proportions than an equally well done one with the correct proportions and inaccurate shoes, but that's just me.

>>6550632
Are you really going to notice an 1" of heel in the back if the rest of the costume and shoe is accurate and the cosplayer looks great?

>>6550632
Agreed. I know sometimes heels can make people look thinner/leggier but if they're not accurate I lean on the side of being as modest as possible with the heel. I love shoes in costumes (to the point where I'll hand make boots/boot covers to be accurate) so I like sticking to the design as much as possible with my shit at least. Shoes get fucked in the cosplay process, even by fairly good cosplayers. People tend to skimp on them for some reason. My cosplay gurus always emphasized shoe accuracy and it really stuck.

>>6550661
In person? Probably not, to be honest. I don't spend that much time staring at people's feet. It's just a personal preference- an opinion. There isn't really a need to nitpick.
Sage because the thread's been derailed enough.

>>6550677
>>6550687

Chill out dude, the thread is still on-topic and I wasn't nitpicking your opinion, I was just honestly curious because I had never heard of anyone having an issue with an accurate shoe with a heel before.

I definitely have to say that giant, tacky, vinyl hooker-heel type boots on male characters especially can completely ruin a great outfit though. Especially when the character has a beard, and is generally manly then has a spiked stiletto heel...

People who think they have the perfect hair for a character, but do not. Not just the red/orange thing, but girls who this they have long enough hair to be Sailor Moon wigless. It's just not good. I have yet to see a cosplay done better with natural hair than a good wig, unless it is under three inches long.

Not related to a cosplayer him/herself, but I hate conflicting references. Like, if it looks one way in promotional art and another in the game/anime/VN/whatever. I understand the limitations of animation, but that doesn't account for everything.

This is a small thing, a pet peeve, but another thing that always strikes me as a missed opportunity is people who mess up the placement of objects. Because people are used to seeing mirror images of themselves, I often find that they put small details and props on the wrong side of their body. It's a tiny, tiny thing but pictures look better if you're careful about this sort of thing.

Giant fuckoff heels.

SHOE LIFTS EXIST FOR A DAMN REASON PEOPLE.

>>6550743
Generally, if the promo is off, you go for whatever is the most 'official' i.e the in game/show design

fucking. THESE. ON ANY COSPLAY!

>All this hatred of heels

This is why I only cosplay characters who wear heels canonically. I physically cannot wear flats, my tendons don't stretch that far. If I can manage to keep things accurate, anyone can.

Chun Li cosplayers with heels. Wrestling boots (or even knee high converse) work much better.

>>6550722
Haruhi Suzumiya cosplayers tend to forego wigs.
With her, it's not too much of an issue, but her hair's a bit rounder than normal shoulder-length hair, and no one, wig or not, seem to notice.

On that note, when Haruhi cosplayers just stick the ribbons in and go.
She has these two locks of hair that go over the band, with the bows popping out underneath. NO ONE does this either.

When there are plenty of high def reference pictures, but cosplayers insist on fucking it up with closet cosplay looking shit. The easier the design, the shittier the attempt.

Wheelchair cosplays. Not people who need wheelchairs in cosplay, but people who cosplay people in wheelchairs, and take up all the space of a person who needs one. Getting pushed through crowded rooms out of choice, not necessity. I even saw someone in a mermaid costume pulling this shit.

The worst part is, you can't tell them off for it, because many illnesses are invisible, so they might actually need the chair. You can't know for sure until you see them walking the next day.

>>6551096
You can't really walk in a mermaid costume, so I get understand that somewhat

People wearing sneakers with their costume.

Poorly blended makeup.

those who act like they're in competition on the con floor. Okay so someone is wearing the same lcostume as you, its not a "who wore it better " contest.
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>>6551115
Nah... that pic is awesome. Love me some lady boy Sailor Moon

>>6550607
But what is your opinion on wearing flats for characters that wear heels?
>just curious

when people overexagerate their characters personality.

>I.E Moe hyper than a 5 year old with candy when the character is just a fun type or person.
>super squeaky high pitched voices
>the mass amount of "UGU" or "KAWAII" or "DESU"

>>6551138
That bugs me to although I haven't seen as much of that.
Christ, I'm starting to sound like I have a foot fetish or something. I just like as much accuracy to the design as possible. People forget about shoes a lot of the time.

I hate when someone buys a costume, a wig and says its "his/her work", "his/her effort", "I dedicate my time on it ugu". Baby, you just bought it! Wear a costume is not a big effort, is it?

I can't understand why people refuse to wear wigs when their hair is just not like the character. The same for make up.

When random people try to "guess" what character you are cosplaying.
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>>6550581
this

>>6550607
and this

>>6550722
and that

>>6551036
and this

>>6551140
Especially this

>>6551204
This might be the wrong thread to ask, but I'm cosplaying a character that doesn't wear shoes at all, but the socks are soaked with blood. I don't want to get blood all over the floor even if it's dried and I don't want my socks to get really dirty from walking around. Should I wear red flats or red heels? I don't want to look inaccurate, but I don't want to step in glass or anything.

>>6551220
Those things you stick to your feet to pretend you're barefoot when you cosplay, can't remember the name of them but tbh you could just stick an insole upside-down to your foot.
Socks on top.
BOOM.

Dirty socks sound more authentic IMO

>>6551226
Thanks a lot! Seriously appreciate the help. And yeah, you're right. She runs around a lot on dirty roads and whatever so that would work more. Sage for no contribution to the thread.

>>6550743
I kinda hate that too. In my case, I hate it when people insist that a character wears a different outfit in FMV scenes versus their "in game" render. Really?! A ton of retarded as fuck Kairi cosplayers swear that her pink dress in the opening/closing is 100% different from the "in-game" one. "Her dress is different from the one she wears in the game than in the opening LOLOL WHY DID YOU DO THIS SQUARE-ENIX??? XDD" ugh.

>>6551220

Careful with the con. I've been escorted out of cons before for wearing only socks. In fact, I've been yelled at for taking off shoes for pictures before.

Of course it was Ohayocon, where staff is obligated to be a bag of dicks.

I hate it when people get super into the character they're cosplaying and try to act like them 24/7. Okay. We get it. It stopped being funny maybe six hours ago.

Giant ugly ass zippers on costumes when there is an invisible one or no zipper at all. I understand you need to get out of a costume, but there are other options than that black backpack zipper on a white shirt

>>6551215

THIS.
I've been seeing way too many people who go on about how their hard work paid off, when all they did was go to good ol' eBay and buy a full costume and wig.
I'm sure if you made the money that paid for it, that may be considered hard work, but most of the kids I see saying this are the ones who are funded by the Bank of Dad/Mom.
Sorry, taking pre-made stuff for fit, adding buckles and paint is NOT hard work in ANY shape or form. Talk to me about hard work when you've turned a pile of fabric and notions into a well-made/fitted garment.

The shoe issue has always kind of peeved me. There are ways of adding in a 2"-3" heel without fucking with your accuracy. Wedges are nice for that, I've found. Legs/butts always look a little better with some sort of heel.
But come on, anything over 4" on a character in combat boots or loafers is just over the top.
You're just too lazy to look for better shoes.

When you make a costume for your friend's first cosplay and they don't understand that cosplay isn't the most comfortable thing on the planet. "I don't have full range of motion in my arms." "...well neither do I."

>>6551220
for a con often people don't get your shoes in photos anyways, so I think you'll be safe with red flats. I've worn loads of character accurate heels but they're always cut off in the photo.

just go barefoot for actual professional photographers

>>6551350
>I'm sure if you made the money that paid for it, that may be considered hard work,

I've seen cosplayers with bought costumes argue that this alone makes them put in more effort than making a costume. They seem to think materials are free.

These are the same people who will complain that looking through every cosplay seller's site for the best costume is more work than making a costume. Because you never have to search for the best material, spend time learning techniques, etc.

>>6551396
Adding on to that:
When a (newbie) friend asks you to make something really complex, especially in a short amount of time.
>"I thought you were good at making things......"
>"I can't make a Gundam suit in a week."

>>6551215

>When random people try to "guess" what character you are cosplaying

When I was Miranda Lawson I got tons of random guessing ("Mokoto Kusanagi, right?")

If you don't know who I'm cosplaying it's really okay. When you guess and you guess wrong I assume it's because my cosplay isn't good enough.

>>6551350
Ugh, I agree.

Even if your character wears combat boots, you could just get some with decently thick soles (adds 1-2") then put some fucking heel lifts in them (another 2") and there you go.

I used to say that wigs were the way to go 100% of the time, but as I get into more western cosplays I'm seeing that it isn't always the case.

>>6551417
even asking works

>>6551411
THIS. THIS SO MUCH. I hate it when people try to commission the impossible. Like asking me to build a helmet from scratch in under a month when I've already explicitly explained that I'm fully booked for January/February. And asking if they can pay just under $200 and have the helmet chromed.

>>6550607
>People who go up to you and proceed to tell you how much they hate the series/character you're cosplaying.

Conversely, if you're going to walk up to me while wearing a costume of a character I detest from a series I hate, I already hate you as a person so I just want to end this conversation as quickly as possible.

>>6551411
/THIS
SO MUCH, I am so glad I got rid of that "friend"

Another thing that's more like a pet peeve than anything: I've been watching this guy toiling away at his Marlboro cosplay. I wanna just grab him by the shoulders and scream at him and let him know that he's seriously over-thinking and over-doing things. Shit's so simple to make and he's making a Broadway production out of it. I wonder why he hasn't collapsed from the ridiculous weight of his wooden and steel props, especially when I know I can tell him how to make it easily...

When someone asks you to do a cosplay group with them, and after you have your shit together and finished, they go 'oops lol I don't have time to make this so I'm dropping it sry'.

>>6550607
>>6550989
>>6551036
Fuck inaccurate hooker platform bitch boots. Especially in the case of crossplayers. I will never forgive Japan for this cancer.

>>6550743
>placement of objects
I must admit I do this all the time, even worse when I do it styling wigs. I've made a habit of triple checking anything asymmetrical now because I've done it so often.

>>6551140
People who try to be in-character in general. It's just fucking obnoxious- a couple fandom jokes between friends is one thing, but I'm talking to you, not the character- save the acting for your photo poses.

Also you will almost always be ooc and I will judge you.

>>6551484
Marlboro as in that ugly stinky Final Fantasy staple monster?

>>6551507
Yep. That one. He's doing all these weird inner contraptions with pvc pipe and wood with steel casters and I'm like... dude, that's gonna fucking weigh a ton...

>>6551417
Ha, that reminds me
> sophomore year of HS
>october 30
>people allowed to go in costume
>throw together a mediocre costume of the 4th Doctor
>random people stop me in the hallway and complement me on my Indiana Jones costume because of the hat

Granted it was a pretty shitty costume, but these people apparently thought Indie wears a long scarf.

>>6551559
Reminds me of those people who cosplay characters with giant weapons/accessories (like Cloud and his buster sword) and make them/commission them out of metal for "greater accuracy"....and then are shocked they can't move while holding them.

one thing that drives me nuts is when someone has a great costume, or prop, but the person never took the time to sand it properly before painting, so the paint job looks like garbage. it honestly doesn't take that much more time do just do the job correctly, but they were either just too pressed for time, or just didn't care enough to finish correctly

>>6551040o
>>6551040
How do you walk around the house with heels on?
I find hard to believe that heels better for you considering the large amount of evidence that wearing heels leads uneven distribution of your weight and if worn frequently ultimately will require heel surgery.

>all this discussion of shoes and feet

>>6551559
Well, if it's the first time he's ever done something like this, I can see how he could be over thinking things. If he gets time to do some tests, he'll see that maybe some things aren't working out, or it's too heavy and then he'll change his game plan.

>>6551627
Definitely not his first time. I mean he cosplays as Auron, and it's cool that he has all the swords hanging from his back and all, but it's such a pain in the ass to walk around him at conventions cause he hogs the entire damn lane and doesn't have a spotter to help him get through, so he causes such a backup it's not even funny anymore. I'm not knocking his craftmanship, but I just wish he'd learn to be a little more practical and have a little more common sense with stuff he does...

>>6551581
What are you on about? Heel surgery?
A little heel lifts the arch and is better for the foot than fully flat, anything over an inch or too constantly can be bad. High heels all the time lead to foot problems at the front of the feet, because that's where all the weight is.

I have bunions. Have done since I was 13, sometimes it's just genetic.

If were on the subject.......women doing men cosplay!!I FUCKING HATE THAT SHIT MORE THANrandom judges


yes I am mad

Welcome to /cgl/, where spoiler tags don't work. Enjoy your stay!

When you love a person dearly and think that they have quality craftsmanship but hate that they just make slutty Genderbent cosplays.

>>6551596
it's like i'm really on /tv/!

>>6551630
then tell him? if you know how to do it easier why are you bitching about how he doesn't, teach him already

>>6550581
I lol'd hard at the catwoman. As if you couldn't make her sexy enough with her actual outfit. I can just see the girl throwing a fit "NOOOO I want to show skin, I deserve to show my body"

>>6551686
Even when they don't slut it up?

>>6551686
It depends on how they do it. Big women shouldn't crossplay, because of their big breasts and the fact they can never seem to bind properly. Girls with feminine faces only look good crossplaying when the character is young or pretty feminine too. Oh. And when they wear tight clothes. Even if you're binding, we can still see your curves.

It's always weird for me when I see girls crossplaying super masculine characters like Grimmjow. Even if they go through the effort of binding their boobs northeast and northwest so there's skin exposed under the open jacket rather than a fleshy ace bandage. The girls are usually too pretty/feminine or too short/fat for that kind of thing. I feel that's the case with most crossplay.

This was forever ago but I remember seeing a post like this on coscom.

"Hey I've never cosplayed before. I'm 5'3" and 195 lbs and I want to be Miles Edgeworth. If I bind and put on a suit I think I'll look pretty muscular right?"

Secret cosplasy will forever be my rage. Okay, if you want to make a costume and not tell anyone what it is until the convention that is fine, it's when people mention it all the time. "My secret cosplay is going super awesome!" "Bought fabric for my secret cosplay!" "Here is a teaser picture of my secret costume!" why do people even bother? It comes off as a ploy to gain attention and demean the people following you...I just don't like it, nor do I understand the point.

I have a particular hatred for flat Stockings.
Or hipless Morrigans.

I don't see nearly as much rage with this as the whole binding thing.

Pad, pad, pad, ladies and gentlemen.

>>6551040
Same. I wore flats for two days for a cosplay, and I was in so much pain afterwards it was untrue.

>>6551581
I walk slightly on my toes. You're not meant to walk completely flat footed anyway, which is why flat shoes with solid soles are less comfortable than wedged/heeled shoes. That said, I've been wearing high heels exclusively for about four years now, and before that I wore those awful clog type things that have a 1" wedge or something, or converse, which hurt like fuck after a few hours. I've now trained my tendons into wearing heels, so if the heel is less that 1", I'm in pain. I also can't dance at all in flat shoes. Mu current shoes have approximately a 1 1/2" heel, and today I walked around London in a 3" heel with no issue. They just feel normal now. I've never worn anything bigger than a 6", though, although I used to have a pair of 5" that I wore almost constantly until they fell apart.

>>6553061
Morrigans without the body for it are pretty sad.

She's a LITERAL SEX MONSTER.
you need to look the part

>>6551220
Why not get a cheap pair of white ballet flats and paint blood on them, too? That way they probably won't be noticeable against your socks. Just make sure you get fabric ones, and not plastic coated ones, so the blood will soak in.

>>6555414
I have this issue as well. It started as a high arch problem, and instead of getting hundreds of dollars of orthotics I just switched to wearing heels.

Now I have tight/shortened hamstrings and find walking in flats uncomfortable, but in heels I'm completely fine. When I'm not wearing shoes I have always walked on my toes, and I run on my toes too- even in flat runners.

>>6553061
speaking of padding, any good padding tutorials?

>>6553052
I always hated this. I can see where people enjoy not telling people but the teaser and the trailers for it..it's annoying.

Hate it when girls crossplay but don't bind themselves. Being a girl with large breasts myself I know it's not always possible to make yourself look flat, but at least try to bind as good as possible instead of wearing a push-up bra. Double D's look ridiculous when you're obviously crossplaying.

>>6553052
As someone who as had a secret costume that worked better because it was a surprise, I can understand the need in having a secret cosplay as sometimes you want people to take in the outfit all at once or you don't want to generate more hype than needed. The only good analogy I can think of is comparing the experience of watching a really good youtube video in one go vs the same movie on a bad connection and you're stopping to pause constantly to let the download bar catch up.. Sure you're eager to see the thing completed but that level of exciment pales in the comparision to seeing the finished piece all at once.

The issue lies in that people don't realize that a secret cosplay should supposed to stay secret. Usually you say "I got something big planned" and then just leave it at that. Constantly rubbing in the fact you have plans is just obnoxious.

>>6551036
but what if it's part of the character?

Since you all are talking about shoes, and I'm incompetent, for something like say, Inori Yuzuriha, would it be okay if I heightened the shoe to a wedge? It'd keep the same shape, i'm not planning on going stripper heel or anything, but the shoe I'm planning to do it to is a good 4"-5".

>>6560546
The point is hooker heels where they DON'T belong.

>>6560734
Yeah, I could see those interpreted as a wedge since the art seems to be tapering off the foot as a stylistic choice. And even if she's standing on her tip-toes, there's still a visible wedge there.

fandom fights. some examples.

>taking it personally
Pic going around on Facebook: like for One Piece, share for Dragonball. I liked it, because though I like and respect Dragonball as a series, I do like One Piece more. Ignited a shitstorm of people taking it as an insult to their childhoods and personal beliefs. Got called a heretic and "lowered on the respect-o-meter". Just because you worship Goku as the messiah and I don't doesn't make me a horrible person.

>forcing it
"Hey, Warden, I just got done watching Soul Eater. You should totally check it out. I know you'd love it." Thanks, but I'm actually not interested in it. "No, seriously. You NEED to watch it. You'll love it and It's right up your alley. Just watch it." No, thank you. "No, seriously. You have to watch it. I won't stop bothering you until you do." NO means NO. if I want to watch it, I will. Until then, leave me alone!

>>6561211
Also

>laziness
"Did you watch Soul Eater yet?" How about we make a deal? I'll watch ALL of Soul Eater if you watch either Casshern Sins OR Samurai 7. "Nah. I don't want to. Too many episodes."

Bitch, those two series combined have less episodes than Soul Eater and you would only have to watch one of them. If you don't want to hear anything about the shows I like then stop forcing the ones you like down my throat.

It's more of a rant than a large complaint, because I've only experienced this stuff among my group of friends. Just needed to get it off my chest.

>>6561215

Yeah I know how that goes. I fucking hate it. Though I think the worst is when you introduce a friend to a show, and they, uh, like it in completely the "wrong" way (eg. convince friend to try some Doctor Who, she's only interested in it for the fanfiction value and won't shut up about kinky porn fics she writes about it).

>>6561224
Ugh, when that happens it's the absolute worst. A friendship of mine ended due to one of these situations.

>>6551570
I'm sorry anon-chan I'm going to be one of those people. Well, I did a costume with some armour and all of it I sanded -except- the bracers. I did them in a different style (they were the first things I made) and couldn't sand them very well so they're all lumpy. But I have 6 other costumes to finish up in the next 2 weeks, so unless I finish them all first I'm probably not going to come back and re-do it.
I'm sorry, I've learnt my lesson for all future armour endevours

>>6555440
You mean, I'm not the only one like this?
As a kid, I always walked on tiptoes. Always. My parents took me to a doctor for it, I was given special shoes which prevented me from tiptoe-ing... and I found a way to anyway.

And now I can't wear flats without pain if I'm doing any walking.

It's good to know that I'm not the only one who can't walk in flats comfortably.

>>6561260
I tip toe too, just more comfortable for me.

Other than the general wrong shoes, wearing stripper heels and massive platform boots, I have to say the two thing that irks me on shoes are Sailor Neptune's who don't do her shoe straps and Sailor Mars' who don't wear red heels.

Asuka's who put the interface clips in wrong irk me too. I get art has depicted them at a rather odd and often time varying angles but backwards (the smaller end facing front or pointed up wards) is outright wrong.

>>6561260

LOL'd

I follow some cosplay q&a tumblrs and it drives me crazy when people keep asking them basic shit they can find by using google. I dont even know how these blogs put up with it! Stuff like
Can you find me a pattern for this shirt
Where can I buy _______

and to combine it with other rage
I want to do slut!character can you come up with a design for me and tell me how to make it but also look good. I can't sew and I have a budget of $10