/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

because its a cute, unique style that some fat girls can actually pull off well and its almost always fully covered.

I think OP's pic is actually pretty cute, I'll always prefer a skinny loli to a fat one for the most part but there are worse fashions they could be into...like gyaru

>fat
>be rejected by society
>depressed
>hide away in the library
>end up reading manga
>watch anime at home
>become a giant weaboo
>grow up a little
>still obsess over Japan, but not so much anime
>run into lolita
>"Now I can be pretty and kawaii!!"

I'd love to see her do a fat princess cosplay.

The only thing that irks me is that her waistline is so high on her outfits. Like if her shirt was a few inches longer I'd be all over it.

you can have a defined waist and youre completely covered up

I don't care that she's fat but her face fucking kills me, it's so piggish. When your weight gets to a point where it's smushing your features into a pig-face, you need to stop and take a look at yourself.

they think they can hide their fat under lots of fabric and frills

>>6273815
some girls like lolita fashion.
your affinity doesn't really change if you're fat or thin.

>>6273883

Spirited Away IRL.

I think this girl's outfits are pretty cute, but if you put them on a skinny girl, I can bet you people wouldn't be nearly as impressed. People are just wowed because she's one of the few morbidly obese chicks in the fashion who actually has half an idea of how to dress.

how does she find such nice clothes for such a fat body

>>6273949
Well, as you can see, she's handmade a lot of the stuff there. But a lot of stores in the UK/Ireland do cute clothes in huge sizes, from what I've seen. It's American stores where everything is shapeless and unflattering.

>>6273949

Looks like handmade and offbrand. I don't really see her sewing four Sugary Carnivals together, so I think she's pretty much exclusively the aforementioned.

>>6273956

Funnily enough she actually did sew 2 bodyline skirts together at one point

I think she looks great. If she's happy with her weight, I doubt she cares what people on the other side of the planet think. I like looking at her co-ords.

>>6273951
SERIOUSLY
ITS NOT JUST FAT PEOPLE EITHER
Every store I go to in the states, from sizes xs-xl, it's all so shapeless and terrible!!

>>6273971
Vanity sizing is shit too. I have a 35 inch bust and I find myself wearing anywhere between XXS and S, usually an XS.

>>6273821
oh look, my life in greentext format

Girls get shamed for being fat. They're told to cover up and subsequently cant get in on a lot of the cute popular fashions. Lolita is cute and modest.

>>6273982
Fuck vanity sizing. I went shopping yesterday, and every M I picked up was like a 2X.

my god, her feet are so tiny and her boobs are so big. not to mention she actually has a nice looking face

>would bang

>>6273933
I know girls of all kinds, shapes and sizes like lolita. The average lolita con photo that I come across is usually a group of overweight girls and I'm just wonder why this so particularly common.

Fucking this. Things should not be a tent on me. Yes, I am tiny but COME ON.

>>6274010
>my god, her thighs are so huge

why can I not get 4chan to quote anymore? You used to just hit the number and it quote. Why isn't it working now?

>>6274023
Still working just fine for me.

>>6273971
FOR FUCKING SERIOUSLY.

You know what else I hate? where you will have a dress or shirt with a defined bust section, and the item comes in lots of sizes both large and small but the BUST IS STILL THE SAME DAMN WIDTH. So if i get a size that fits me the bottom of the bust section hits me in the middle of my boobs!

WHY

>>6274020
>my god, her thighs are so huge
JUST HOW I LIKE IT, MOTHERFUCKER


requesting pics of booty

They probably think it'll look good on them but I think it looks pretty bad on people who are blobs. Lolita will only make you fatter if you don't have a defined waistline though the fashion is good for people who are a bit bigger in the hips and thighs.

OPs girl is disgustingly fat though and looks like she has cartoon proportions with those tiny ass feet compared to her legs. Once your legs are the size of giant hams you're too fat.

What I don't understand is how someone can get to this size. I mean, how much do you have to eat? Do they never move?

>>6274064
I know, really. It would take me serious effort to even get half that fat.

ITT: Girls with self-image issues mad because a girl that they project that shouldn't get attention is getting it when they feel like they should be the ones who have it.

Now THAT is envious of some of you. Grow some thicker skin.

>>6274105
You're really stupid if you believe that.

>>6274105
Not really, I'm just mad that there are so many whales in America that I'm stuck shopping in Forever 21 because their teeny Korean clothes are the only kind that fit me properly.

>>6274123
It's not stupid.

>>6274157
Oh wow, you poor baby. Because, you know, there aren't any brands that cater to petite sizes and small figures.

It's outside of the mainstream, so it's likely something you'll only know of if you spend a lot of time on the Internet. If you're really well-versed in it, even moreso. People who spend a lot of time on the Internet are often fat. It's as simple as that.

>>6274157
If you were really skinny, you sure as fuck wouldn't be shopping at Vanity Sizing r Us

>>6274157
People like you are on an equal level of bad like fat people bitching that "bawww skinny people are ruining clothes because companies wont make sizes that fit me bawwww!" Fucking shut up and find a place to shop that caters to your size, or find a place to shop online. Pathetic.

It's one of the few things that make them feel feminine and pretty, the rest of the time they feel like manly pigs

Fat lolita here. Not the girl in op pic.
If you're fat, you are going to have people looking at you whether you like it or not. In my case I also have another obvious distinguishing characteristic- I'm a natural ginger.

If people are going to stare at you a lot you might as well look nice, for one thing. There's really nothing worse than an overweight girl who also doesn't have good grooming skills and doesn't know how to dress herself.

Also, giving them a reason to stare that isn't just "omg that girl's fat!" Helps your self esteem and helps make people treat you better. TBH, I've lost quite a bit of weight since I started doing lolita because I don't hate myself as much and I'm less afraid to go out in public Going out in public= more exercise and a higher self esteem makes me want to treat my body better. I'll probably always be a bit chunky, though, because of a medication I was on as a child that fucked up my thyroid and the way my frame is. But I don't have this idea that I have to look like Chokelate or someone or go home anymore. I can just look BETTER.

Also, because of self esteem issues, many fat girls tend to reject mainstream fashion because it doesn't want us anyway, and because overweight girls aren't well liked in the mainstream, many people who are chubby chasers or fat appreciators, or those who just don't give a fuck and will accept your fat if you accept their serious mental illness or weird kink or whatever, gravitate towards alternative lifestyles and fashions. Not lolita, obviously. But in my area it's sort of hybrid-ed with the western goth and steampunk scenes, and all those people are very nice.

>>6274267
>implying the majority of lolitas look like sparkling princesses without their makeup, wigs, and fancy burrando
How did that feel to type that out knowing that if someone would take a picture of you right now you'd probably look like an ugly beast as well? Did your stomach sink with that hypocrisy?

>>6274278
>fucked up my thyroid and the way my frame is

Keep telling yourself that, fatty.

>>6274293
I- I'm not fat, I'm just big boned ;_;

please don't rape me i've been a good girl

>>6274039
This. Hollister does this a lot. I work at a resale boutique and I get a mad discount but nothing my size ever fits properly.

You know what I do? I buy those "flowy" oversized things in two sizes too small and have a fitted top.

Also, why does every blouse or top these days have a banded fucking bottom?

I've only seen one body type look really good in banded bottom things- girls who are apple shaped and are trying to hide a giant ass pooch belly. If you have a waist, it looks like shit. Plus, when you wear something with a shirred banded bottom, there's always the risk of the shirring slipping up to a higher point and showing skin, so you have to wear a tank or something underneath to be decent, and you STILL have to pull that shit down regularly because if you don't it will look stupid.

If those tops were a little longer or it were easier to remove shirring, I'd buy them and cut the damned shirring panels and bands off.

Also- When a dress is sized larger, retailers, keep in mind that the person in question probably has a bigger butt and make the item longer. I'm 5'8" and pear shaped and I sweat to god it's impossible for me to find dresses and skirts that come to a flattering length. Let alone one that would be appropriate to wear anywhere like work that has a fucking dress code. And I refuse to wear leggings under a tiny mini dress that barely covers my ass and claim that it's decent because I put on footless tights underneath it. That's a little less between the world and my underwear than I'm comfortable with.

>>6274320

Dude like, I feel you on the tall thing. Finding a dress in my size that is decent enough to wear in more formal situations (and I'm not even talking cons here, I'm talking like, normal life,) is a freaking bear - 5'7" here and blessed with broad shoulders and hips. Assuming I can find a dress that fits over my ribcage, its still not going to be long enough to wear without leggings.

It's like they think women shouldn't grow taller thatn 5' even

I just buy all my damn t-shirts from threadless anymore because I can get guys' smalls and have the extra length so I'm not having to pull down a stupid short babydoll tee all the time.

>>6274293
Look up depakote side effects. I was on it for about ten years.

I'm currently not on meds for it because Murrika/free health insurance from the gubmint for disabled children expired when I became an adult, but I do take some supplements that seem to help and I HAVE been diagnosed.

It made my hair curly, too.

Also, I think it's weird that social scientists are obsessed with why americans are so fat but never take into account any of the medication related shit- more people are on psych meds than ever before. More people seem to have depression, probably because we lead such shitty lifestyles that contain a lot of types of stress that are completely alien to the conditions we evolved in.

Depression can cause weight gain through carb cravings and emotional eating. Many psych meds can cause weight gain, and a few cause sluggish thyroids. Most birth control pills can cause weight gain, and flouride in the water we drink can also cause your thyroid to malfunction slightly- not enough to cause a serious change, but enough that it's probably a bit harder for someone who drinks flouridated water regularly to lose weight than someone who doesn't if all other things are equal.

Also, I'm not saying someone with a shitty thyroid can't lose weight I'm saying it's harder and they may not be able to be as thin as is the current ideal. They can certainly get to be much healthier by dieting and getting more exercise, and can certainly lose weight. Why is the idea that different people could potentially have different body types and that some might be a bit larger than others so threatening to some people? I'm talking Miracle Laurie here, not PT.

>>6274363
>>>/blog/

>>6274363
Funny thing is. You don't see many major fatties outside of America. Sure there are some in Britain, France etc. but no where even close to the amount America has. I don't think its meds.
It's a combination of a sedentary lifestyle, over consumption of food, and consumption of food with little to none nutritional value.

Americans are just lazy fat asses that think eating a giant plate full of ranch covered vegetables=healthy

>>6274387
>giant plate full of ranch covered vegetables

That made me gag.

>>6274387
>Insulting generalizations will help me make my point!

Christ. I'm not even fat and you sound mad.

>>6274363

In Sweden we have fluoride in our drinking water and last time I checked we don't really have an extreme problem with obesity.

I do agree on the points about medication, depression and shitty lifestyles though. I wouldn't want to live in America.

>>6274278
Thats really interesting. Glad to hear that you are doing better

>>6274392

Its not a generalization. Its a fact. I live in the deep south. The people down here are not fat due to medical reasons.
They just don't know what to eat and how to eat.

I'm not even mad, I'm just point out my observations on American food culture.

>>6274387
>>6274393
I agree somewhat, but I actually think it's not the eating so much as the total lack of exercise that most americans have on a daily basis.

We made a society where we never do anything physical unless we pay someone money to use their special equipment to do so.

Walking is good for you, no matter how old you are and you can do it even if you might have trouble with other exercise. Until the modern era, most humans spent a huge chunk of their days walking from place to place. In larger cities with good public transport in the US or in other nations that use public transport more, people get more physical activity and are thinner.

In most places in america, though... you pretty much need a car to go anywhere. Even in my small town, where I could walk across the entire thing in about 3 hours, it's considered brain damaged not to own a car, we have no bike lanes anywhere, our public transport system runs in two areas on weekdays only, and in many areas there aren't even sidewalks along major roads.

I'd say the fact that I walk on average an hour to an hour and a half to work and home again, maybe run some errands is a big part of why I've lost weight.

>>6274363
>Many psych meds can cause weight gain, and a few cause sluggish thyroids. Most birth control pills can cause weight gain

While I can agree that antidepressants/anti-psychotics can cause weight gain because they mess with the endocrine system beyond belief, BC will not cause weight gain, its more likely you have an increased appetite because you are feeding your body a hormone that is meant for sustaining pregnancy, and that progestogen may cause muscular atrophy if you don't exercise and have an decent diet.

Because that fat doesn't magic out of nowhere, it comes from your body storing excess calories.

>>6274427
And if a BC is "making" you gain weight, try out a different pill.

>>6274427
I'm aware of this.

What I'm trying to say is that americans keep giving themselves huge amounts of shit that cause them to get cravings for more food or make their metabolisms sluggish. Including flouride, which, btw, has been proven to be bad for you for several nontinfoil reasons and which doesn't do anything positive for you after you swallow it.

Then we create a culture where we spend most of our time sitting at desks, on couches, and in cars, and where you have to work at getting some exercise.

And then we have shit that causes insulin spikes and is made to be eaten when you need to do a lot of physical activity at the bottom of our food pyramid and we spend more money advertising for people to eat junk food than anything else and create a culture that wants to keep us from cooking real food because it might take too long away from our busy schedule of sitting.

And then we have the first society ever where the majority of people have to work at not getting fat when evolution programmed them to work at eating more so they wouldn't die or be malnourished, and we wonder why so many people are fat.

Because the rest of the conditions in the american life are stressful as fuck and we're already being pulled into a million different directions and being slim is not something we are designed to work at. It's supposed to happen as a result of our day to day activities.

>>6274440
>2012
>Being on a pill for birth control instead of an implant, shot or IUD

>>6274039
This! OMG, I'm a medium-ish hourglass with big boobs. Nothing ever fits me right.

and vanity sizing really pisses me off. I am not a damn 4. I have NEVER been a damn 4. So why the hell are my pants labeled size 4? these things are like a 10 or a 12 by a dressmaker's chart!

>>6274444
I'm well aware of this, as I am foreign we don't have fluoride treated water, grain fed cattle that have been fed hormones like crazy, or HFCS. Us foreigners still have fat people, and the US still has people within a healthy weight range.

I really don't understand sitting on the couch all day or not walking to to store if its under 3kms away. I also always see that junk food is "cheaper" than veggies? If its from the supermarket I wouldnt be surprised, but produce stores should be a hell of a lot cheaper and eating whats in season should keep food bills down, inbetween my sister and I we spend about $70 a week on food, but it'd be double if we got it at the supermarket.

>to keep us from cooking real food because it might take too long away from our busy schedule of sitting.

Can't you just get some fruit and veg and cut them up as a snack, there is so much food that takes under 30 minutes to cook!


>Because the rest of the conditions in the american life are stressful as fuck

Implying its not stressful in every nation.

>>6274472
What I mean is, no one should ever have to work at being not fat. We are not designed for it. Full stop.

Also, few of us know how to cook.

In most of america, corn products are heavily subsidized. My brother did the math when he lived alone and lived on the dollar menu at burger king for 3 years because it was still cheaper than buying real food.

I've lost 16 lbs in the last six weeks. My goal is to lose at least 68-78 lbs by next year.

>>6274504

Are you lost? This isn't your personal LJ, dear

>>6274509
Fuck you. Half of every weight thread and skincare thread is shit like this.

these threads are always
>fuck fat bitches. i hate when fat girls wear lolita because it is my personal clubhouse and i don't like fat girls being fat in it.
>i think she looks cute
>chubby bitches complaining about how things are "too big" for them and trying to humble brag anonymously about how "thin" they are because they are thinner then the girl posted
>one fat girl who posts her own perspective on the matter of being fat and wearing lolita
>the fat girl subsequently mocked for her opinions and admitting to being fat on /cgl/

she's from london? i thought this girl was american.
i want to find her now

>>6274561
>london
well that explains a lot

Oh my god is that girl fat...
How can she even move.

She looks like that fat women from "what's eating Gilbert Grape", except at least that woman had the good sense to stay inside until she drowned in her own lard.

FOR SHAME!

if she would just eat 9 burgers a day instead of 10 she could drop 1-2 pounds a week

not that big of an adjustment

>>6274363
>>6274444
Weight gain and increased eating are not typical of depression. The disorder usually is marked by weight loss, not gain.
Depakote side effects include loss of appetite as well as the reported weight gain but either way, it is rarely prescribed for depression.
More importantly, the prevalence of these others would not suddenly change just to match the quick increase in national obesity rates.

The reason why nobody takes your brilliant ideas into account is because they are wrong.
They are full of shit since you have no idea what you are talking about.

that outfit is pretty cute tho

My brain is confused right now because I really like her outfit, but her weight is making me go "NOOOOOOOOOO"...but her outfit is really cute.

lol, I love the way /cgl/ are horrible to pretty lolitas but nice to fat or non-white ones.

>>6274941
>nice to fat lolitas
Are we on the same /cgl/?

>>6274948
Nearly every post in this thread is false praise.

>>6274953
Not really, nearly every post in this thread is talking about how they don't understand how she got that big.

There are a few saying the OUTFIT is cute, and it is. Not the same to being "nice", they're still saying she's a whale.

>>6274955
Fat girls need to lose weight, bitch. You think we men are happy with this shit?

>>6274956
It would be useless to point out the irony of that statement in a thread about LOLITA fashion, which supposedly is about dressing for women, not dressing for men, huh?

>>6274959
To be fair, the skinnier lolitas don't want the fat lolitas around either.

>>6274959
Um, lolita is about dressing for men. It's about looking cute and innocent for us and about daddy/daughter fetishes.

>>6274964
Actually what you're describing is a very small percentage of lolitas.

>>6274963
Yeah this is also true. But honestly do any subculture want the fat ones around? Except for that BBW shit--Rockabillies, goths, whatever. No one likes fatties.

>>6274967
Sure it is. Just look at a fetish thread next time and see how many lolitas in it admit they have a father fetish.

>>6274971
>thinks the majority of lolitas post on 4chan fetish threads
Oh, you.

>>6273815
If you mean people who are incredibly obese to the point of almost being genderless like in your pic, I always assumed it was because they feel so invisible they have to do something so people notice them.

She dresses herself in clothes she considers to be incredibly feminine, otherwise you might not even know she was a woman.

http://www.cupcakesclothes.com/

This is that girl's blog.

She really has her shit together, she is excellent at creating outfits and seems to realize she is incredibly fat and so she makes/alters her own clothing sometimes instead of just forcing herself into clothes that don't fit.

>>6274418
>thinking the deep south portrays entire america

>>6275005
Now if only she put that kind of thinking and effort into becoming unfat.

>>6275073

>>6274997
I've never considered obese people to look genderless. Some of the men look womanly, but they still clearly appear to be of a certain gender unless they were hideously ugly to begin with, in which case being thin wouldn't have helped them any either.

>>6275073
Very true. I think she is a prime example of being a good person at other areas of her life, but lacking in health.

she looks like a marshmallow peep

I like how everyone is complaining about how obese Americans are when the girl in question is from England

What's her shoe size? Perhaps it's skewed because of her size, but even if she were petite she'd have tiny feet, it looks. As someone with size eleven American, I am so jealous.

>>6275115
http://www.next.co.uk/g48442s2
She posts about wearing these shoes in her blog--it's a kids-sized shoe. The largest these come in is a Children's 7, which is a Women's 8.5...so assuming she's wearing the largest size kid's shoe, her foot is not especially small, but they definitely look dainty in proportion with her body.

>>6274064
>how someone can get to this size. I mean, how much do you have to eat? Do they never move?


My guess is genetics and poor food choices.
Cause sometimes you DO have to eat a salad 4 days a week while your friend can eat 2 stacks of pancakes in a sitting and never gain an ounce.

It sucks.

On the bright side, once you get to like 250+nand you are only 5'6 or something all you really have to do is get on a bike or walk for an hour a day and eat like you usually do and the weight drops off because it's a lot of effort to move all that.

We should all join lookbook and get her onto the front page son!

While her size and location combined does irk me it's noting compared to how the ridiculous hierarchy of that site annoys me.

If she was thin, she'd already be on the hot pages because her photo quality is the same.

For other users it would be if they were white, if they wear Jeffrey campbell shoes, etc.

Am I the only person who thinks that chubby Lolitas look absolutely adorable in sweet lolita prints that are pastel and covered in sweets?

It's vaguely self-depricating, but at the same time really adorable. And lighter colors are more flattering I larger bodies than the typical all-black I see many try to pull off.

I think in general, certain aspects of Lolita fashion work well with curves and chub. It's much more flattering, and draws attention away from their size. A higher waisted a-line skirt looks way better than trying to squeeze into tight jeggings, or resorting to a baggy shapeless frock.

That is, if they wear clothes that fit well. Fat Lolitas who try to squeeze into brand really need to stop. Brand is made primarily for Japanese bodies, and it's not going to happen for many different body types.

And I'm not bashing on them, as I'm actually underweight, and unable to wear many brand dresses because I'm taller and really busty (5'9" and a 32DD).

Though I will say that I do take issue with many "fatshionistas". While finding clothes for your body type that look good is something I totally encourage, there is a fine line between "body type" and "lazy". My mother and sister are naturally chubby. My mother has tried every diet in the book, and my sister is an insane athlete who practices sometimes up to four hours a day. They will never look like a supermodel, but they look good and are healthy. But the people who are walking blobs who don't give a damn really need to stop. You may be naturally heavy, but you aren't naturally a mishapen blob. And turning your fatness into an identity is kinda weird.

I actually thinks shes pretty cute, maybe a different cardigan.
Dat wig tho, eeeegh.
She has potential at least.

I don't see any point in picking on this chick. She's one of those fat-acceptance people, she knows she's fat and doesn't care and doesn't want to change.
Now if she was strutting around in skimpy cosplays and insisting that she was a Japanese model, that would be different. But she doesn't seem to have any delusions about her size and dresses her body appropriately, so I'm not bothered by her fatness. It's a little sad that someone so young is so unhealthy, but she's old enough to make her own lifestyle choices.

I think her outfits are so cute and her photography is top-notch but I just get kinda disgusted thinking of her fatness. There's no excuse for being THAT fat. I can overlook a little bit of chub but this is abysmal. If she's alright with it, I guess that's what matters but mehhhhh.

>>6275227
>I don't see any point in picking on this chick.
>She's one of those fat-acceptance people, she knows she's fat and doesn't care and doesn't want to change.

That sounds like a good point to pick on her.

>>6275244
This is the kind of mentality I hate. "It's okay to be obese if you're fine with it."

Being overweight is never "alright". It adversely effects your health and life in almost every way. Obesity is an AFFLICTION, not a form of personal identity. If you are fat you have the obligation to lose weight, not to wallow in laziness and pretend it's a part of who you are.

>>6275259
It's her life. What do you care if she dies before 40?

>>6275259
What business of it is yours if someone you don't even know is unhealthy? I hope you police others for smoking, chronic masturbating and drinking as well.

>>6275259
Thats just like, your opinion man.

>>6275263
>>6275274
I don't give a fuck about her health. Just stop spreading this bullshit of "It's okay to be fat if you accept your fat persona" bullshit. It's not okay and don't try to tell people it somehow becomes okay through personal acceptance.

I don't hate smokers because they smoke. I think their choice to smoke sucks but it's legal. I'm not going to hate on a girl who apparently likes to be fat. I think that choice sucks but she has the right to make it.

When people try to force others to conform to the choices they have made for themselves, it's not about supposedly caring for the health of the other person but about a perceived "breaking" of a "social contract." We are told that there are benefits to choosing long term "quality of life" over short term comfort and pleasure. Smoking will make you sick and you'll get cancer and die. Being fat will make you sick and you'll have a heart attack and die. Not believing in God and Jesus and the Bible will destroy your soul and you'll die and go to hell.

If you feign concern over people who make the short term choice, what you are really doing is trying to prove to yourself that there is value in the long term reward, that there is value to sacrificing what you want now for something better later. It is inherently selfish. *I* want a better world for *my children.* You have no guarantee that such choices are necessarily going to lead to predicted outcomes. Maybe you have evidence that the outcome is likely but no one can predict the future.

>>6275282
con't


Now, I am not denying that their are costs to society for acting for short term pleasure rather than long term benefit. It's selfish versus selfless - you have to deny Present Me a treat to help out Future Me - and what the fuck has Future Me ever done for Present Me?

But really, you can't force a person to understand this, and make them realize that you have to have a balance between short term and long term. Some people can never grow an ability to reflect and examine their choices objectively. We're just monkies with tiny little pea brains.

>>6275282
>>6275283
THIS SO GODDAMN MUCH.
THANK YOU.
Let fat people be fat. No amount of telling them they're going to die sooner than you or shaming will get them to stop being fat and lose the weight. All you're doing is angering yourself while they wander off to go to Taco Bell.

>>6275279
Yet you still have no part of what other people decide to do. Get over it.

>>6274320
6 feet tall and pear shaped here. I feel your pain. I can never find a skirt/dress that is an acceptable work length. Hell, ANY skirt that's any acceptable length. I don't want to be flashing my ass everywhere, no one wants to see that shit. Pants and long skirts all day e'ery day for me.

Sage for bitchbitchbitch

>>6275291
So what you're basically saying is "you shouldn't tell a person they should lose weight because they never will." What a defeatist mentality.

Telling a person straight up that they are fat and encouraging them to lose it is a hell of a lot better than to try to coddle the fat person and say "DONT WORRY FATTY-CHAN I THINK YOU'RE PRETTY OMG SUCH GREAT COORDS YOU GO GIRL!" All that shit does is enable people to continue their bad behavior.

>>6275302
Unless that person is a relative or a close friend, it's no one's responsibility to tell a fat person to lose weight.

>>6275302
>>6275291

The point.
------------
Your Heads.

>>6275302
You know what, somehow I get the feeling that telling you that you're a cunt and encouraging you to stop posting isn't going to make you stop posting.

>>6275312
Responsibility has nothing to do with it. Anyone can, and should, encourage others to lose weight if they are overweight.

All you're doing is trying to yell at people for being insensitive because you feel sorry for the fatsos. "Quit doing that cuz I think it's mean!" Sorry but, no. Obesity is an affliction in western society and it should never be accepted in any way, shape or form.

that skirt's really nice for handmade.

>>6275316
If someone walked up on the street and told me "Lose some weight fatty." that's not going to motivate me to lose weight.

You can tell a fat person to lose weight but unless they want to, they won't. Nothing you can do about it unless you're going to be so concerned with someone else's weight that you follow them around and slap food out of their hands.

>>6275316
No, I don't feel sorry for anyone that's fat. I have nothing to do with it. You don't either. Stop trying to justify getting into everyone's life.

Ok, here's a challenge to all fat anons who spend their time either complaining about not being able to lose weight or preaching obesity acceptance:

For 1 month, I dare you to do the following:

download Jillian Michael's 30day shred or something similar. The exercise is 20 minutes a day so you have time. NO CHEATING

Drop junk food. No soda, McD's, pizza, tacos, chocolate, pasties or ice cream. NO CHEATING.

1 month is not that long. Just try it. If it doesn't work (it will) or if you don't feel any better by the end of the month, go back to what you were doing before and come back here to complain some more. Just fucking try.

>>6275316
>anyone can do it
Without sounding like hypocrites? Very few. I wonder how many unhealthy habits you have in your life that someone should be "encouraging" and lecturing you to quit. And yes, sitting on your ass for hours on 4chan arguing is an unhealthy habit as well. Does that mean you're going to quit? Fuck no.

But you're entirely missing the point of that anon's post. It's not about the "health" of an unnamed stranger you've never even heard about, it's about you acting self-righteous and holier-than-thou thinking that you have the authority to harass people into changing just because they don't conform to your "ideals." Shit, I hope you blow the whistle at smokers, alcoholics, desk jobs, sex workers, and the like because those seem like 'afflictions' that affect Western society as well. You must never have time to shut up.

>>6275320
>If someone walked up on the street and told me "Lose some weight fatty." that's not going to motivate me to lose weight.

Why wouldn't it? If I was so fat that people on the street are making fun of me then I would absolutely be motivated to lose it.

Sorry, but I'm not onboard with the defeatist mentality of "fat people are gunna be fat nothing can be done just accept it." If a person had cancer would you tell them to just accept it? No, you get rid of it.

>>6275323
Stop trying to justify fat acceptance.

>>6275329
Oh wow, you really expect people to make life long changes because they followed a one-month exercise routine and deprived themselves of junky food?
You're everything that's wrong with getting people to have a better outlook on food and making exercise part of their everyday routines.

>>6275334
I'm not justifying fat acceptance. It horrifies me that there are so many obese individuals, but I can't change what someone does with their life. If it comes up in conversation, I will try to encourage that person to change their habits. If they accept the advice, that's great, but I can't change it if they don't.

>>6275320
>You can tell a fat person to lose weight but unless they want to, they won't.
This. At best they'll cry into their twinkies when they get home and wonder what they're doing with their lives before zoning out to their television, at worst they'll throw thin privilege fat acceptance bullshit at you. They made themselves look disgusting and they're fine with it, their doctors will tell them to lose weight and they still don't care, a stranger isn't going to help.
>>6275334
>Why wouldn't it? If I was so fat that people on the street are making fun of me then I would absolutely be motivated to lose it.
And you're probably not even fat to begin with. Fatness is a level of laziness and disregard for your health and appearance that you either have, or you don't. You can't say you'd do that when you don't have a fat mentality to begin with, and someone with a fat mentality would go eat away the pain and not change themselves.

>>6275334
Except I don't owe shit to random strangers that are rude enough to jeer at me on the street. When have you ever listened to something a stranger said to you when they intended on bring cruel or mocking you?

And really? Comparing being fat to having cancer?

>>6275344
>Fatness is a level of laziness and disregard for your health and appearance that you either have, or you don't.

And this is how we can tell you're some angry, bitter girl on 4chan and not someone with their PhD in medical or psychological sciences. Fuck you lol.

>>6275339
no, that's not what i'm saying at all. The point of that one month is to show that it's isn't hard to do.

After you notice the changes you'll want to change even more. The easier the exercising gets the more you want to do it. I just used Jillians video as an example because it's the best exercise video I've seen and it actually works.

The point of dropping junk food altoghether is to show yourself what role it plays in your life. It's not 'depriving' because you do not need it. Once you've realised WHY you eat it, it's safe to bring some back to your diet without fear of overdoing it.

>>6275328
Such a dumb argument. Who the hell said smoking or alcoholism wasn't bad too? If somebody here was an alcoholic and tried to claim I should accept their drinking habit I would say the same thing.

And how about the reverse? If you saw that someone smokes 10 packs of cigarettes a day or is an alcoholic would you go "smoking and alcoholism are fine if you accept yourself! Don't let anyone bring you down! Keep on truckin', sister! Great coords btw! So jelly! ^_^" ? Of course not, because that would be destructive and absurd. Yet that's what you're asking us to do for fat people.

>>6275350
I never claimed I had one, and I'm explaining it in a way the person I was responding to would go "oh, yeah" to.

But if you have a PhD or at least more of a clue than me, tell me how I'm wrong. People who actually care about themselves decide to change what they're doing before it gets to the point everyone is talking about, people who don't get fat.

>>6275350
>saying "fuck you lol"
>posting a shitty reddit meme
Must be a fat chick

>>6275350
it's true though genetics and thyroid problems don't actually exist. they are just something that doctors claim that is un-fixable for people who don't want to try to become healthy. being fat is unhealthy even at a very low level, being obese is basically hammering the nails into your own coffin(piano box)

>>6275347
Maybe you should stop looking at your fatness as an issue of "me vs the naysayers" and start looking it for what it actually is: "me vs my obesity affliction." The people who make fun of you or tell you to lose weight are not the enemy. YOU are your enemy.

Lose weight.

/fit/ here
wow you girls are monsters
also
get your shit together fatties, having a /fit/ lifestyle isn't that fucking hard

>>6275368
No thanks. I think I'll stay fat.

Unless the fat person in question is trying to get into your pants, their fatness has zero effect on you.

Being thin would not make her a better secretary or telemarketer or whatever else she does in a professional context.

In fact studies show that fat/ugly women may even suffer less sexual harassment in the workplace and are more respected by their male co-workers than thin/attractive women.

>>6275374

Making some great life choices.

>>6275360
I have a psychology degree and here's why your argument is bullshit.
You're saying that "fat" is a state of mind. Please, point out in the DSM where "fat" is a mental illness. Yes, being fat is bad but saying that being skinny and fat are states of mind and are diametrically opposed is ridiculous. While there is a difference in motivation for working out, that doesn't mean that someone who is overweight isn't motivated in other aspects of their life. You're making a general assumption based on one factor of someone's life. You're acting as if there's no shades of grey in between all of this. It's not a state of mind, it's a matter of genetic predisposition for weight gain/fat distribution, the environment you grow up in (hint, if your parents ate junk food all the fucking time, chances you are too and you've plastered that into your brain by the time you've left home) as well as a multitude of other factors that there isn't enough time to get into. It's possible for someone to be concerned about their appearance and still be fat. Just because someone isn't thin doesn't mean they don't care about their appearance.

>>6275376
>their fatness has zero effect on you.

It has an effect on me when the fat person in question is preaching fat acceptance and other people are telling everyone in society that they should pretend it's not a health issue.

I don't want my kids believing it's okay to be fat because "we're all people inside" or whatever inane rhetorical obesity apologists spew out.

ITT: Gender Policing

Men don't rag on other men if they're obese or overweight, he laugh at their standup comedy and are silently thankful for less competition.

>>6275376
>their fatness has zero effect on you.

It has an effect on me when the fat person in question is preaching fat acceptance and other people are telling everyone in society that they should pretend it's not a health issue.

I don't want my kids believing it's okay to be fat because "we're all people inside" or whatever inane rhetoric obesity apologists spew out.

/fit/ here.

As an ex fatty I've got to say my previous obesity was sustained by cognitive dissonance of the highest strength. Sound familiar?

>I'm happier this way?
>I eat really healthy?
>I'm actually much fitter than I look?
>I am naturally big boned?
>I exercise all the time?
>I'm comfortable in my body and it is others who seem to have the problem?

Secretly, I was an unhappy whale. Sustaining sex was a chore. Couldn't do a single press up. Couldn't run (lumber) more than 20 yards. Had boils and other disgusting things on my upper arm fat and inner thighs. I was fat and unhappy and I was fat because of my lifestyle, specifically booze and massive amounts of bread and rice and shit carbohydrates.

Undoing the mental conditioning of years wasn't easy, but once I realized that by giving myself what I actually needed, I got what I actually wanted and the false economy of 'deprived' unless I could gorge on bread all day evaporated.

Seriously, who is happy being fat and unhealthy and eating for the sake of it? Really deep down happy with their choices and decisions and lifestyle? Say "me asshole" sure, but think about it. Existing for base and temporary pleasure at the expense of your health? Gross.

>>6275386
>Men don't rag on other men if they're obese or overweight

>>6275387
Not who you're responding to, but you're making an inferential leap I don't understand. Being overweight does not automatically equal fat acceptance. Someone may say "hey, I know I'm fat, will you please just leave me alone". That's not preaching fat acceptance. That's preaching "I'm a human that likes their privacy just like you, please go away". If that person were to get up in your face screaming to eat a hamburger and that they were more womanly than you'd ever be a la PT, then there's an issue. But at this point, you're making the assumption (or so it seems from your post) that ALL fatties rave about fat acceptance and hold up pick-it signs about it on street corners.

>>6275380
>"fat" is a mental illness
first off, stop with the quotes around fat.
second off, many many MANY overweight people have eating disorders which, by the way, ARE mental illnesses. Many fat people who become very overweight eat for emotional reasons such as sadness, stress, nervousness, etc. These reasons then increase when they are shunned or looked down on due to their being overweight, so they eat more, become fatter and thus the cycle continues.
So you're wrong, being fat IS in most cases a mental illness. Also, you need to get the fuck out with your environment bullshit, none of that shit is true and you know it.

>>6275376
>fat/ugly women may even suffer less sexual harassment in the workplace and are more respected
>more respected
more like, less attractive so no one sees them as women. It's not about respect, it's about disgust. Also.
>Unless the fat person in question is trying to get into your pants, their fatness has zero effect on you.
I have a irrational disgust for fat people, I become ill and unable to eat when around them. This isn't something I can change or fix, similar to motion sickness or being afraid of heights, so yes, yes they do affect me.

>>6274314
no worries, nobody wants to rape a fattie.

>>6275396
>So you're wrong, being fat IS in most cases a mental illness.
OH MY GOD STFU
as a ED survivor I am seriously offended by this.

Being lazy and eating mcdonalds everyday=/= suffering from a real ED

fuck you

>>6275389
You had boils? How fat were you?

>>6275402
yeah i fucking hate fatties as well. try to make their life shit whenever i get the chance.

>>6275395
Being fat is a character flaw and by living with it, you are wearing it on your sleeve and showing that you are ok with it, it isn't a matter of privacy.

I dislike that cunt in the city centre driving a 4x4 for no damn reason other than they've accepted wasting energy. I dislike that cunt who leaves the tap running when brushing their teeth or starts the shower while getting up and spends 20 minutes on a skincare routine before stepping inside. I hate that cunt who heats their house at 24 degrees then opens a window when it gets 'stuffy'. I hate that cunt who buys £150 worth of shopping weekly and throws away half of it. I hate that cunt who has a garden full of decomposing children's toys and spends the majority of their life screaming at them.

I have lots of hate but it is ok because there is a target for plenty of it in the world and fat people can have some too.

>Bumble bumble.. my privacy please! Apologies for my wasteful existence, I know I'm a bit unhealthy and disgusting and a symptom of consumerism but I refuse to be a cause..

>>6275402
Seems like you're just a bit too sensitive.

>>6275407
get fucked fattie.

>>6275404
So, you're saying that anorexia isn't a mental illness? Same with bulimia? obesity is a mental illness that needs to be cured. These people don't need acceptance, then need help!

>>6275405
320lb or so? Fat enough to have boils.

>Buh buh buh I eat REALLY healthy..

(As I devour two home made 16oz burgers spread with honey and goats cheese stacked atop an entire packet of potato crochets with a bottle of wine)

>>6275409
it's a made up mental illness.

>>6275407
Fat people smell pretty bad most of the time, as well as have horrible eating habits and manners overall.

>>6275387
If you have kids, it's your responsibility to teach them proper eating and exercising habits. Then you won't have to worry about fatties corrupting them.

>>6275409
no. they need to know that their health is their own responsibility. and that all their excuses are bullshit. calories in vs calories out etc.

>>6275415
Yeah but with all this sort of political correct sensitivity bs children may end up being told by teachers that saying being fat is a health issue is wrong

>>6275422
Again, if you don't want you're kid believing the bullshit, tell them otherwise.

>>6275409
wtf? where did I say anorexia or bulimia aren't mental illnesses?

What I'm objecting to here is saying that in MOST cases being fat is a result of an ED.
That is simply not true. In some cases, yes. But not in MOST.

In MOST cases people are fat simply because they're lazy.

>>6275421
well i'd rather see obese people going to those sort of eating disorder clinics rather than having their doctor tell them to eat a salad and patting their head before they leave to raid 5 mcdonalds.

>haumawch salt
A fuck ton, captcha, a fuckton.

I don't understand why if you're overweight you would spend more time complaining about how hard your life is and how you should be treated equally when you could just go and work out.

I was pretty damn chubby through middle school and finally started working out in my junior year of high school and I've kept it up for 4 years.

>>6275428
have you ever heard of a fattie that have been "cured" by an psychologist?
me neither.

>>6275425
Tell your kid otherwise sure, but kids are difficult. They tend to go through a phase where they want to do the opposite of what their parents want and instead listen to their peers. Try convincing a kid who has had the fear of fat hammered into them that 'Joe's COOL MOTHER lets them have soda ALL THE TIME AND IT IS SWEET AND JOE IS HAPPY!' while you are thin lipped in the kitchen and your retort is "Joe and his Mother are fat retards now goto your room.."

WELL JOE'S MOTHER LOVES HIM AND NEVER SENDS HIM TO HIS ROOM, SHE SAID YOU ARE TOO MEAN TO GAIN WEIGHT ANYWAY!

Next step is when you see that fat bitch in the supermarket you tip her off her scooter and scream at her. Yet you'll be the crazy one.

>>6275438
a+ lol'd irl

>>6275432

Tthere are some psychologists who SPECIALIZE in fixing people's relationships with food. So I'm sure this is actually quite common.

>>6273815
Because it's flattering to most figures, and it's cute and fun. Basically why thin girls do it, I'd imagine.

>>6275451
You misspelled flattening.

>>6274450
Getting IUD hurts a lot and is quite invasive....really invasive. They also contain similar hormones to some pills, fyi

Making fun of fat girls online isn't going to make you less ronery. Honestly, I think the debate shouldn't be if obesity is a mental illness. It should be if bullying is a mental illness. You say that obese people are lazy, yet you're the ones sitting on your angry asses bitching out strangers online. Real productive use of time. These fat girls really should do that more often.

I've got to say, whoever is touting 'my business' and 'nothing to do with you and your society thanks' can go fuck themselves.

Because basically you are telling everyone else around you to do the same. Once upon a time family or peer pressure would have corrected your dumb ass, but in the spirit of individuality and basic marketing, you believe you are entitled to fuck up the world for everyone else as 'long as I respect others opinions and privacy'.

Well I'm fucking sorry, some of us plan to steer society is a more pleasing direction, one which doesn't revolve around dying of heart disease at 35 because you can't stop stuffing fat and sugar into your disgusting face.

I hope you are fat skinned and ignorant enough to endure the collective hatred of billions.

>>6275102
If they don't have obvious signs of being male or female (like extremely masculine/feminine clothes, mannerisms, voices, names) then it is really hard to tell what gender some morbidly obese people are.

The fat obscures their body and face to the point where they all look the same, like babies.

>>6275463
pfffft oh you
I just got home from the gym and am now having dinner, watching tv and fucking around on 4chan. I've earnt my lazy time for today.

>>6275466
Once upon a time, fat people were considered more attractive than thin people. Calm down.
Also,
>implying individuality is a bad thing

>>6275469
Being really fat fucks up hormone production. Men get more estrogen and women more testosterone. Insulin response is pretty much related to poly-cystic ovary syndrome along with body hair, excess testosterone. Basically if women get too fat, they get sterile and manly.

Hence the bulldyke at work, who looks like a fucking man and actually is moustachioed.

>>6275474
Slightly chubby people, yes. But morbidly obese pieces of shit have always been targets for ridicule.

>>6275474
>implying individuality ranks above rationality

Once upon a time fat people were considered freaks of nature worth paying to see.

>>6275473
Wow, you WENT TO THE GYM.
You really
wow
That does earn you the right to bully people online. It must be nice to not have any real responsibilities, sweetheart.

>>6275474
rubenesque=/= fat! Those people were only considered more beautiful because during that time having any kind of body weight meant you could afford to eat! Even then, they weighed atleast 200lb less than the huge obese shits we are talking about here. You know what there are some places who still love fat people over skinny people and those would be undeveloped tribal african countries. Fuck off, I don't need acceptance. Fat people are like smokers. They're disgusting and need to fucking stop!

The biggest part is changing your lifestyle. Making choices and learning how to eat properly (mainly, portion sizes is the big thing). The US practically encourages you to stuff your face with all kinds of shit, sit at home all day and watch TV, and get very little exercise. It encourages laziness and unhealthy overeating, and medicating yourself for every problem.

Then you have people who can live that same lifestyle and not really gain much weight at all. Others are genetically pre-disposed to gaining more. Medications help with that too. Not to mention every magazine and commercial advertising losing 15+ lbs a week by eating a special over priced nutrition program or special diet pill that magically targets specific areas.

As a person who was over 200lbs and lost 50, and trying to lose more, I can attest to how difficult it can be to change your lifestyle. But lifestyle changes are generally bad for profit and companies that insist that you buy all their products and eat their food. It's just kind of an endless cycle, get fat -> socially force people to lose weight -> try next method -> lose hope -> get depressed and eat more, profit!

>>6275476
Say this to this guy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Paul_Rubens

>>6275486
see >>6275484

>>6275483
I haven't bullied anybody. I've actually tried to help.

I'm a bartender, sunday and monday are my days off. What exactly are you criticizing me on? Are you mad that I went to the gym? I'm confused.

What exactly are we allowed to say on these threads? I told people exercise is good for you and someone called me unsupportive.

oh wait, I'm on /cgl/ never mind.

>>6275486
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Paul_Rubens
If you are implying Rubenesque figures are morbidly obese, you are a fucking moron. Overweight? You fuckin' bet. But I am so sick of landwhales comparing themselves to these paintings. No, you were not born in the wrong century, you were never hot.

>>6275490
No, I don't, maybe you should consider reading the post I did reply to, according to her everything that is more then chubby (what the woman in his paintings are) is morbidly obese which is just stupid.

>>6275488
see
>>6275476

>>6275489
Maybe not you. Telling people that eating well and exercising is good for them isn't bullying. It's calling them 'landwhales' and telling them that they're unwanted members of society.
Also, this thread isn't even about "curing" fat people. It's about why fat girls like lolita.

Am I the only one who doesn't hate fat people ? Sure I find fat disgusting, and obese people are ugly IMO but I wouldn't be rude to them if they didn't cause any inconvenience, jeez people.

I only hate fatties who have to find excuses like "Well my thyroid is fucked up ! / It's because of the economy ! / I'm born like this!". First it's only true for 1% of all fat people and two, why is it so hard to say that you're fat because that's it and you don't own anyone an explanation ?

And don't blame the meds, French are the most depressed people and we don't have one of the highest percentage of obesity in the world. The problem is that Americans are not used to cook big and healthy meals by themselves (and not "microwave that shit for a minute") plus healthy food is too expensive. I also heard from French Canadians that they tasted the most sweet things in the USA. So blame your weight on your country and the fact that it's HARD to be thin in this place but don't forget to blame yourself for being weak and not working harder.

Btw my aunt had thyroidic problems and had to be hospitalized and guess what : She isn't obese ! She has a huge ass for her body frame (kind of a parody of a pear shape) but she's totally normal.

>>6275496
most rubens girls ARE just that. Slightly chubby. There's very few seriously overweight looking ones in his catalogue.

More importanly, they never have huge tummies. Ass and thigh fat is not unhealthy, stomach fat is.

>>6275505
They aren't 'chubby', these days they would be considered overweight and fat.

>>6275503

I don't. I mean, sure, fat isn't healthy. But I don't HATE fat people, anymore than I hate people who binge drink, smoke, or are skinny but eat too many sweets. Sure, they're all kind of gross habits, and I don't really approve of them, but I'm not filled with rage about it. I mean, it's health - if someone engages in bad habits, sure, it's difficult to watch, but it's ultimately not really affecting me in any way. I honestly think most of the people who really get pissed over other people being fat are just projecting their own insecurities onto others.

>>6275454
you misspelled fattening.

>>6275445
I know. but I have never heard of a fattie that have been cured this way. It's just another scam. fat people are just not willing to put in the effort it takes to get normal-sized. their are a lazy bunch of cunts

>>6275510
ok. 'overweight' is not a matter of opinion. Look at the girl I posted. There's no way her bmi would be over 25. She is not overweight.

>>6275463
bet a fat girl wrote this.

>>6275505

I feel like chubby implies you aren't overweight but you're still on the "upper end" of healthy/have a lot of fat on you. Those girls definitely look like they're overweight, but you're right, not horribly so. And they do carry their weight in the "right" places - hips/thighs, which keeps them looking proportionate and, thus, attractive.

>>6275483
telling people to stop making up bullshit excuses for weighing 300 pounds ain't bullying.
also: whiteknighting on 4chin

>>6275501
first off it turned into a thread about curing fat people, second off it's their faults they got so fucking fat in the first place. they should have expected to be teased.

>>6275485
medicines, genes and all that doesn't really matter. energy in vs energy out is what matters. your whole post is filled with fattie excuses.

>>6275490
don't forget all the fatties who compares themselves to Marilyn Monroe

>>6275526
Actually, looking again, they could be upper-end healthy without as much muscle, too. It's a bit hard to tell, they're in a bit of grey area.

>>6275539
hahahahaa THIS
I mean, look at her, what a fucking fatty

Recovering binge eater here.Thought I could share my own experience seeing as how I've been fat longer than I've been normal (well semi normal anyway. Still five lbs over my goal). I used to be,and still to some extent am very much addicted to food. It was everything to me,especially a replacement for love.But when I turned seventeen I realized that I need to break free of it and get healthy. I went to the gym for about an hour in a half every second day,cut down my calories and made healthier choices.But somehow no mater how hard I tried I couldn't stick to these changes and would always fall of the wagon. And when I'd fall off,I would beat myself up for being weak,which would make me want to binge on food more. when I finally lost it completely and couldn't stop bingeing at all,I realized that something was seriously wrong with me.So I decided to go see a therapist.It was the best decision I ever made in my life.I went from being obese to only being five pounds overweight without any diets. Sure it took me two years,a lot of tears and a lot of prozac.And it'll take me probably another couple years in therapy to fix all other problems in my life (wich made me obese in the first place and are too personal to talk about here) but it was well worth it.I really recommend finding a good shrink to all of your who are obese here and can't seem to stop overeating.And to all of you who despise fat people - well I can't change the way you feel. But you also can't change another person's eating habits.And when you see a fat person on the street,remember that they are no different than a junkie or an alcoholic.They are addicted and their addiction is there to fill a void.And the only way to quit the habit is by either hitting rock bottom or dying.

>>6275503
I don't hate fat people. Their one universal bad quality is that their fat. Being fat doesn't push out all the other good qualities that makes someone an awesome person. It just affects their appearance and health. Which frankly has nothing to do with me, and isn't something I would get annoyed at.

And here in the USA our culture revolves around food. When you meet new people you go out for lunch, dinner, go get a snack. Having a sleep over? Get take out. Having a party? Food galore. Food is what nurtures us. This actually wouldn't be a problem if the food we consumed was healthy. I mean it wasn't a problem a couple of decades ago. We had the same habits, but not the same shitty foods we have today.

>>6275588
You don't need a shrink. just don't treat yourself with food. your not a fucking dog.
fucking americans going to the shrink and taking meds instead of growing some fucking balls.
tl;dr: I think you are fucking weak.

>>6275588
Very, very good advice. I'm going through therapy too and have the same problem as you. It really works. I'm doing hypnotherapy. Its literally save my life.

I won't reply to any responses to this post, so don't bother.

But I've always been a fat woman.
I've been involved in sports activities, active extracurricular activities, and I'm sure as hell not lazy.
I've never had any outstanding medical issues (I think I got my tonsils taken out a few years ago) and my most recent physical says that my cholesterol, blood sugar, and hormone levels are all fine and well.
I have two undergraduate degrees and working on my graduate degree, I own my own car, and working on buying a house.
I like to wear makeup and do my hair.
I like buying cute clothes that flatter my figure, and I like to dress up.
I've never had a problem attracting boyfriends or getting guys to like me. I like to go on dates and I like being out.

But you know what else? I love food.
I'm one of the very few fatties not in denial about loving food. Food is part of the culture in my family, food gives us comfort, food brings us together as people. Food has helped me get through cram study sessions the night before a major exam. Food has helped me remember my grandma even though she's dead and gone. I'm grateful to have food. I'm grateful to enjoy food where I know in some countries you're lucky to even get some.
I know the reason I'm overweight is not because I don't get enough exercise, but because I eat too much of the food I love.

Why do you hate people like me just because I look different? People that have NO impact on your lives? I don't tell anybody how to live. I don't hate on petite men or women. My friends all vary in body type.
STOP generalizing.
STOP telling me how I discriminate other people when I fucking don't.
Just because you had a bad run-in with some mean, lazy, rude fatass doesn't make every fat person the same way.
I've had my encounters with some real stuck-up, self-centered, bitchy thin girls but am I to suppose every tiny girl is like that? NO, it's unfair, it's repulsive on your character.

>>6275588
I'm a junkie. and I am fucking offended by being compered to landwhales.

>>6275593
I am lithuanian not american.I don't want to grow balls because I like being a woman.I was addicted to food because it was my primitive coping mechanism that i used to deal with abuse i suffered as a child. Going to a therapist saved me from it.

>>6275607
>I didn't read that post.

>>6275596
tl;dr go to the gym instead of defending yourself on 4chan.

>>6275609
What do you think tl;dr means?

>>6275593
Your the reason why so many people with mental problems don't seek help. The world would be a better place everyone was able to get therapy without being put down or shunned.

>>6275597
Well yes maybe that was a bad analogy.Addiction to drugs is more chemical than emotional.Addiction to food is purely emotional

>>6275605
why do everybody blame all their problems on their childhood? you are not a child anymore. take some responsibility for your own life goddammit.

>>6275329
WTF is life without tacos and pizza >.>
Being a fatty chan who has been torn apart on this board before I would rather work out 3 hrs a day than lose my favorite foods might take longer to lose the weight but my thinspiration friends aren't going no where and their existence reminds me I need to be thin

>>6275596
you sound like a levelheaded girl and a nice person. I don't have a problem with fat people. I don't a problem with skinny people.

I have a big problem with people who lie to themselves and then lash out at others for stating opinions. That's what most people in this thread seem to be.

>>6275615
I did.I went to a therapist and we have almost fixed the issue. why u so mad? :D

>>6275596
Clearly you don't get that you are indeed the sort of fat person we like here.
I have nothing against anyone specifically. I hate people for good reasons, I'm not rasict, sexually or physically discriminating if I hate you it's for good reason. People generalize, they stereotype they hate and discriminate because THEY PERSONALLY HAVE HAD PERSONAL PROBLEMS/EXPERIENCES WITH PEOPLE LIKE THAT! So, before you say don't generalize, why don't you not generalize too.


I hate stupid people
I hate ignorant people
I hate 'politically correct' people
I hate racists
I hate bigots
I hate hypocrites
I hate people who cry because they are ~minorities~
And most of all
I hate people who think that minorities can't discriminate.

that feel when you can eat whatever you want and never be overweight

u mad fatties?

>>6275613
this explains why you are fat.

>>6275615
She did? She went to therapy. Are you retarded? That's worse than being fat.

>>6275623
Yes.

>>6275623
go away skinnyfat ho.

do you even lift?

>>6275626
yup, i work out 5 days a week
stay pressed

>>6275610
no. the reason so many people have problems, is because they don't think they are able to fix their own shit. because of faggots like you, who tells them that it's not their fault, and that they should keep looking for a magical cure that will fix everything for them.

>>6275623
I know that feel. Feels good...until I'm really busy at work or something and hypoglycemia sets in. inb4 check your privilege or some other tumblr bs.

>>6275622
I read that post and I don't think they generalized anywhere. And I also don't think they're making that address to everyone here, only the people who are the ones blatantly generalizing all fatties.
Clearly you don't get that you are indeed not the person that the anon takes issue with.

>>6275627
are you stupid? I think getting therapy works for some people, some people actually NEED it. You, maybe not. But you need to shut the fuck up! No one is telling you that you HAVE to do anything. You're just like one of those ass backwards atheists or evangelicals saying that everything that isn't what you think is wrong.

>>6275627
What magical cure? I go to therapy and I don't take any drugs or medications. I just talk. I talk to someone I have no emotional connection to. If I was able to fix my own shit I would have. I was on the verge of suicide before I got therapy for myself. I'm still contemplating suicide, but I'm getting better now thanks to my therapist.

That feel knowing your man loves you no matter your weight or appearance and every time you ride him your burning off them chocolate cookies you shared
You mad skinny bishes that are expected to always be flawless eye candy, because on the inside you want some chocolate cake and double cheeseburger but don't feel like puking it back up

>>6275634
then why ruin it by eating whatever?

>>6275619
she went to a therapist, and took harmful medicines instead of just stopping stuffing her face with so much fucking food.

>>6275641
because i can :3

>>6275640
lesbian, single, fit and happy, thanks for asking!

>>6275640
You are why everyone hate fatties.

>>6275640
tfw I probably can eat more than you and I don't gain a pound.
tfw I go to parties or cons and get $100+ in free booze from almost every guy

Just keep telling yourself that your man is hot and that every guy wants a "real" "thick" woman.

>>6275644
so can I but I'd rather eat lean and stay ottermode. to each their own I guess

>>6275636
>harmful medicines
Really? I guess every single medicine ever is harmful because a few people react to them badly.

I don't see why people complain that it's so hard to eat healthy. It's really not at all.

>>6275637
all I am saying is that a person who needs therapy and meds for something as easy as not eating a fuckton of food, is either weak as fuck, or stupid as a doorknob. either way I don't have any respect for them.

>>6275640
your man would get a normal girl if he could.

>>6275651
Prozac is pretty harmful baby.

>>6275652
the funny thing is that you can eat unhealthy and just exercise. i'll use farmers as an example. farmers eat tons of shitty fatty food, starches and protein with few veggies, they stay skinny because they go out and work in the fields. now, if someone who say doesn't exercise and works in an office maybe eats the same thing, they gain weight. why? simple! because your body can and does regulate it's weight by taking in and burning calories. anyone who says otherwise is an asshat.

tfw you troll the angry too skinny trolls and make them rage themselves into an early grave

>>6275652
Yeah, really. It's not like you even have to cut out junk food entirely in most cases. Fruit, veg, lean meat, exercise, and hey, a pizza every so often, why not? But most very fat people I know were raised with horrible diets and can't even imagine going a day without several helpings of crap. I've had people swear to me that they eat just as healthily as other people but still inexplicably gain weight. Then I see them actually eating, and... yeah, no. Fruit salads drenched in syrup and a few leaves of lettuce covered in sauce to not a healthy diet make.

>>6275658
no. you can and do regulate your own weight by taking in and burning calories. just google thermodynamics if you wanna know more.
and you clearly haven't met many farmers.

>>6275654
If you read her post you would see her food was a substitute for love. It was the one thing that made her happy, so she gorged upon it. This is pretty common. Don't each a shit load of food? Then what else are you going to fall back on? No more hobbies due to depression? Well your kind of trapped.

>>6275654
therapists don't always give you meds. most of their job is to listen to you talk so you will think about things and discover answers to questions you normally wouldn't. It's really difficult to see yourself and how you act and sometimes what you really feel. therapists imho only exist to allow you to find things out about yourself, most people do the same thing with friends but sometimes you don't have friends you can trust or tell traumatic or personal things to. therapy is about venting to yourself really. atleast they should be. the ones who are pill pumping judgemental hand holding idiots need to cut that shit out.

>>6275658
Yeah, farmers may work, but a lot of them cook with grease. Their arteries are going to be much more clogged than someone who doesn't move and eats healthy.

>>6275667
yeah they are all deluding themselves. and get butthurt as a motherfucker when someone tries to make them face some facts. this thread is a glorious example.

>>6275640
The whole reason why I hate this board sometimes (although this post was clearly made to make people irate) is that the responses to posts like these are always shitty.

I bet the girls in here would come to the rescue if a guy was being harassed if he liked to dress feminine or wear makeup.
But if he has a preference for bigger girls then it's just because he isn't truly a "man" that can do any better, or he must be ugly or inadequate.
A guy -must- always desire a size 0 woman with a tiny waist or else he is not truly a desirable, adequate male.
You bitches are stereotyping men as much as you are fat women and it irritates the fuck out of me.

>>6275672
she is clearly stupid, since being fat made her problems worse. and what made her fat? all that eating.
and no, you are not trapped. she could use her time, money and energy to fucking fix things in her life. for example going to a gym instead of going to the therapist.

>>6275678
Responses to posts like those are shitty because those posts themselves are shitty.

>>6275490
Back on to Reubenesque figures, the one of the overweight nudes? They suggested he'd never even seen nudes of that girth, since they were so inaccurately painted compared to his usual style.
Sure, size was a sign of excess and luxury, but he couldn't find many in that day and age anyway.
These days empty calories are the sign of the poor.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Paul_Rubens

>>6275678
wtf? where the hell did you get this? or are you just some kink-shame!!!!sjs who jumped the chance to rant or something?

>>6275673
that's why I'm telling her she is stupid, for not being able to fix herself.
>>It's really difficult to see yourself and how you act and sometimes what you really feel.
nah, not really.

>>6275678
it's a difference between not being size 0 and being ridiculously fat.

>>6275682
So you can't be above the shittiness and do the same thing that the other person is doing just because you can? Mature.

>>6275687
No you dumbass. How could you not get that from posts like >>6275657
>Hurr yo man culd get a normal gurl if he culd!

Or is it possible you're just a selective reader?

>>6275696
Again, you're grasping at straws because you're not addressing the broad argument.
You're still telling a man whom he should love and whom he shouldn't because of their partner's physical appearance, and if he doesn't then he is an undesirable or "can't do any better."

>>6275694
how could you not get that that post was an obvious troll?

>>6275694
keep telling yourself that any normal man would enjoy your disgusting body fattie.

>>6275694
Why are you so desperate to defend a post you admit is shitty, though?

>>6275684
If you would have read what I originally posted you would have noticed that I did go to the gym and count calories.That approach didn't work for me so I turned to therapy.It helped me and i no longer binge eat like I used to and lost a lot of weight. Didn't I fix my problems?

>>6275703
How could you not get that some of you bitches actually think this way and need to be called out on it regardless? I don't buy "hurr troll jk" for one second.
Some of you need to watch your fucking implications on the things you say. I'm doing you a favor now so you won't embarrass yourselves irl.

>>6275702
I'm not telling a man anything. I'm just telling fat girls to stop deluding themselves into thinking they are attractive.

>>6275702
so what? you obviously are fucking retarded. all that sort of argument is is a self validation technique. no one actually really cares about the guy or his love or relationship. why on earth would you take that sort of statement to mean so literally that it was a front on love or something.

>>6275705
it didn't work because you didn't eat less calories than you burned. you needed help and medicines to fix you problems, which imo makes you a weak person. and you won't get any stronger either, if you don't start facing shit on your own.

>>6275709
Yes you are.
You're saying that their "men" could do better or "leave" them if given the option to date a thinner girl. You are implying that you know what their male partner wants in a female.
And either way you're still shit-tier for trying to put someone down through relationshits.
You are an asshole and you just don't admit that you are one.
>>6275710
Same for you.

>>6275711
You're doing me a favour. Great. Well, let me tell you something. You need to learn to take what you read here with a tablespoon of salt. You cannot get offended by what you read here. That's not how this place works. We write in ways that are mean, nonpc and just plain evil. It's meant to be provocative. If you can't understand that you shouldn't be here. This is not how we speak in real life. We're not socially retarded youknow.

The way I see it the point of this thread is to shock people with unhealthy lifestyles to re-evaluate their choices.

Tough love, cgl style. Can't take it? gtfo.

>>6275705
Don't worry, love, it takes a much stronger person than that douche bag to admit that they need help. You conquered your obstacles and won, there is no shame in needing a hand to help you along the way. I'm sure you already know that though.

That's the real problem, people need others but there are jackasses like that around who make them feel bad for wanting help.

>>6275721
oh, and before people blow up at me for writing that? I'm a former fatty who decided to get healthy because of a thread like this. I love cgl, never change.

>>6275714
You are incredibly naive if you think that being in therapy is not facing your problems.I came face to face with all of many repressed memories in that therapists office. It was like being abused all over again. and the meds are just there to make you calmer and help you function in day to day life.

>>6275721
I'm not offended. I'm just telling you off for something you know you're wrong about and you're getting angry at me for doing so like the upset little bitch you are.
"Tough love."

>>6275715
I don't think I' an asshole, I'm just trying to stop women from tricking themselves.
alright, there may be guys out there who for some reason enjoy to pork fatties. but I am telling you, 99,9% of all men prefer women without fat rolls. common, you know this, you are just in denial.

>>6275715
>Same for you.
I never even said that. I was just pointing out the psychology behind those kind of things. Same with black girls saying "oh this black guy is only dating a white/latina/asian girl because he can't get a real independant black woman like me" no one actually really cares about the feelings or love or anything, they are just saying that to try to make themselves feel validated, usually the kinds of people who say that are really self-conscious or racist/discriminative in some way. you're the one grasping at straws and twisting something out of proportion, you should settle down. no one is trying to destroy anyones' emotional foundation. you should calm down so you don't seem so deranged.

>>6275627

I can kind of see what you're getting at, but I think you're just accepting a lot of incorrect stereotypes about therapy and psychology. isn't easy, at all. Many people go in for a session and disappear immediately after because it's so difficult. Therapists call you on your weaknesses, your insecurities, and bring up all of the things are too painful to confront usually. They try to ease you into it (to keep you from running away), but it is by no means "easy". It's not a magic cure or a quick fix - it's an emotionally difficult (and very expensive) process that forces you to be accountable for your own feelings and actions, and helps you to change yourself for the better. The easy way out would be to pretend you have no problems - the brave choice is to admit it and seek help to figure out what's at the route of your behavior, however difficult that may be.

>>6275730
hahahahaha awwwwwwww ok then

>>6275734
Oh yeah right, because I'm sure you totally don't think that /sarcasm
Hey, it's not like I can prove it, I just said it anyway and you're the one reacting to it. You could stop arguing anytime if that's not what you actually meant in the first place and stop trying to defend something that's apparently "not there." ;)

>>6275715
also, fat people are lazy, smells bad, and their idea of fun always include sitting down. so don't come dragging with your "good personality" bullshit

>>6275744
...wat? You must be so mad right now. I'm sorry I upset you this badly.

>>6275737
>>The easy way out would be to pretend you have no problems - the brave choice is to admit it and seek help to figure out what's at the route of your behavior, however difficult that may be.
an intelligent person wouldn't be deluding themselves in the first place.

>>6275747
I think they're just trolling you at this point. Probably best to ignore.

>>6275689
>lacks empathy
>bitchy
>not being able to fix herself

you are funny anon.

>>6275748
Exactly what I was saying. Intelligent people can understand that their behavior is maladaptive, and seek ways to change that behavior (if, for whatever reason, it is difficult for them).

>>6275740
You do realize I am not defending anything. Why is explaining something the same as agreeing with/defending? I'm sure you don't understand that I was not disagreeing with you, but simply shedding light on the reasoning behind it. The only problem I have with your explanation/complaint is that you are focusing on the wrong part issue, but they you are just really stupid in the first place.

If she can do it, you fatties can too

>>6275747
I'm not mad. why would I be? nice discussion skills tough, the way you try to place yourself above me, instead of bringing up some arguments. if you lost weight you could be a politician.

>>6275749
>we were just trollan u all along anon lololololol
Another reason why I hate this board. You can never correct someone without them trying to play it off like they were trolling in the first place. Ugh.

>>6275751
I don't go around telling fat people shit like this in real life. but I really think they need to hear it, so I do it on here.

>>6275752
so you agree that people who needs therapy to stop eating too much are stupid?

>>6275758
>implying politicians aren't greedy fat cats to begin with
You can't into politics so don't talk about them, thx.

>>6275763

Take everything with a grain of salt.

>>6275767
nah, really fat people don't get elected. because people don't trust anyone who can't even control their own food intake.
they also use as shitty discussing techniques as you do.

>>6275748
There are many intelligent people that seriously need help and put themselves in shitty situations. Read a book or watch a movie perhaps?

>>6275777
fat people don't get elected because they're not attractive. People vote for attractive people. I know if I don't know who to vote for I got for the hot one.

>>6275766
My god your retarded. This why I only wake up everyday for pet. People like you are god awful.

>>6275777
aw shit i got trips!

>>6275802
thanks for making me realize I got dubs as well!

>>6275802
>This why I only wake up everyday for pet.
wat

>>6275764

oh, so you're saying you're not bitchy, just a coward.

you are funny anon.

>>6275963
so wait, you think they SHOULD go around saying this shit to people?

I can't stop laughing at people telling us off for being bitchy and impolite. THIS IS 4CHAN what the hell were you expecting?

>>6275721

>pretend to be badass online
>reeks of underage bullshit

ok.jpg

>>6273971
Ugh I know. I really miss clothes that fit. Not everything has to be so stylistically tentlike or baggy.

>>6274930
>Weight gain and increased eating are not typical of depression.
Yes they are.

>>6275396
But that anon's right. It IS primarily a combination of genetics, and your environment. People need to be educated about healthy lifestyles (seeing as you can't change genetics), not to be told that they have a mental illness
>inb4 if that's the case for fatness, why isn't it the case for axorexia and bulimia?
Because these are mental disorders that have been documented for centuries. It's too much of a coincidence that people are calling for there to be a legitimate mental disorder for fatness as the obesity rates grow (no pun intended)

>>6275979

I'm not telling you anything. It's what you're telling me.

I can't stop laughing at people telling others THIS IS 4CHAN like this absolves you from any responsibility. If you're rotten here, you're rotten everywhere else. You can hide it but it doesn't change who you are.

I expect nothing on 4chan. People on 4chan aren't very different from people irl. The only difference I've come to expect is captcha.

anyone can get to a healthy weight that genetics bs is a fucking excuse, and no being a huge fat ass is not healthy no matter how much you try to debunk it with some magazine article.