/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

The Grand Bazaar special sets are basically leftovers from Paris.

>>10789405
The pink sailor kitten set is adorable. Glad they had a colorway that wasn't just "another shade of blue".

So who else is excited for holy lantern

>>10789419
I'm excited to see all the new itas coord
the terrible colorways poorly.

>>10789419
Holy Lantern is the most overhyped AP print of all time.

>>10789455
Nta and it is but...I'm so close to giving in to the hype. It's in the same vein as Melty Cream Donuts, Dream Sky, or other prints that have good replicas out in the world where I am not in love with the print but if I ever want to own it I need to buy it direct from AP because I'm terrified of accidentally paying full price for a replica and then reselling it unknowingly.

It is over hyped but clearly re-releasing it every year is working for AP.

I never understood why holy lantern is liked so much...

I don't think I'll ever add it to my collection, not really a fan of it honestly

>>10789419
I’m really meh on the colors they’re rereleasing and it’s annoying that it’s over-saturating the secondhand market. But at least it’ll be funny seeing people try to coord the orange and failing at it since it’s such a hard color to coord.

>>10789482
Ugh the orange is the worst one. And that shade of orange doesn't even look good on most people, to boot.

>>10789482
>>10789483
Predicting a lot of orange HL coords for Halloween 2023

>>10786661
Prophet, I’m sad about Dream Doll not being at the LaForet sale. The sale in general is disappointing this time.

When will DD come out? What are the chances of it being an MTO?

So the new nakayoshi bunny bonnet is shit as it doesn't hold up like the old one did as they made it differently this time aka cheaper

Source: https://twitter.com/discord228/status/1549673744201060352

I don't know if anyone posted this yet but here's all the new ones

>>10789609
jfc this is fugly

>>10789607
Maybe whether the bonnet stands or not is just inconsistent. This photo that was posted the other day shows it can stand.

Maybe it's just the red bonnets with this issue? I think another girl with the red complained about the bonnet not standing too.

>>10789607
The fur is so cheap looking

>>10789607
>>10789632
And this sax one isn't folding in on itself either

>>10789607
Thank god I don't like bonnets, so I only bought the JSK. If this is true though, AP's MTO quality is just going down the drain. It makes me sad.

>>10789633
Ironically, the fur still looks better than the recent AP plush. But I don't have my MTO yet, so I can't say for sure.

>>10789607
I was kind of wanting the bonnet since it was so silly, but now maybe not.

I've just been waiting for days for someone to actually wear it to see how things truly holdup.

>>10789640
The original was "silly"

This one just looks stupid.

>>10789635
Yes but still photos on displays can be fastened down in a way they can't when wearing. Who knows what they might have stood it up with?

>>10789632
>>10789635
It might be the red, unless everyone else fixed it themselves already or made it look good for the camera. I have to admit, the bonnet looks incredibly cheap, I would pay maybe 3000 yen max for it,

>>10789607
I had the old version and it also did that sometimes. Just a design issue.

>>10789679
Mine didn't do that? The cardboard doesn't flop that easily, or shouldn't. Did you have a worn down bonnet?

>>10789680
I think the girl on twitter was complaining about the bonnet not having any structure on the inside unlike the velveteen one so it just flops. Please correct me if I'm wrong

I can't find a Baby thread but is it true that the material/texture that they mainly use for their clothing is based on Japanese traditional paper?

>>10789698
I like how people screamed about wanting an AP containment thread before AP generals were a thing and now we have people coming here because other threads are dead/nonexistent.

>>10789607
looks like a cheap santa claus costume

>>10789482
What color would you want? I personally like the black and pink best

>>10789698
Not all of their fabric is the same. As someone who has done years of book and paper making, my understanding is that traditional Japanese paper is made with longer fibers than some modern western paper that is made from shorter fibered pulps like cotton rag and wood. The texture of washi in particular is light but strong.

Given that, it’s possible some of their fabrics are similar on a surface level to washi paper despite being woven cotton. I do think their thin and light textured cotton that’s commonly used on their prints could have similarities to washi or other traditional textured Japanese papers if you examined it closely. I don’t know if this is intentional though.

This only applies to plant based paper btw, not vellum.

>>10789720
NTA but they didn’t rerelease the pink.

>>10789724
Uhh.
https://www.angelicpretty.com/pre-order/holy-lantern/

>>10789724
Were you thinking about pink Nakayoshi Bunny? They were talking about Holy Lantern.

>>10789607
AP is really just making replicas of their own dresses at this point huh

>>10789646

>>10789771
Extra mutant bunny ears for support, cute

>>10789737
Oh my bad nonna I thought the discussion was still on NB I should have checked the replies.

>>10789771
Why is she wearing 2 pairs of ears what the fuck

>>10789680
No bought it brand new from the store. Maybe my head is too small

>>10789771
Nightmare fuel

>>10789934
lolitas are so sensitive

>>10789771
I would have done the same desu

>>10789720
PURPLEEEE, the print contrast looks the best on that one imo

>>10789482
I welcome the oversaturation so people get desperate and sell it cheap secondhand when they realize the are too fat for the op to look good

>>10789688
I don't know about the new bonnet. I would not be surprised if it folding in on itself, because the bonnet already was flimsy and AP is known to be cheap, now

>>10789771
You know, the fur looks even cheaper than the cheap fur

The pom-poms are literally twice the size of the old version's.

>>10790094
This must be a manufacturing mistake, the original MTO sample had normal size pompoms and the bonnet ribbons do too. I wonder if AP just let it slide and hoped no one would notice?

>>10790094
looks like a bad replica ew

>>10789402
Apparently the gamer girl dress print is called Photogenic Pallet.

Now when we abbreviate it we can just call it the PP dress.

I just got Sugar Decoration from AP USA and the tag is purple? I thought AP reserved that for more "mature" looking dresses. It doesn't really matter, just thought it was an odd choice.

>>10790187
Ah yes, big PP damage for a gamer dress. Very fitting.

>>10790094
I'm gonna come at these furry balls with a trimmer lmao, it's the only way to save the dress

Looking at pics of the AP Paris event. I can't believe the package thief showed up.

>>10790206
Oh fuck she went? Damn. Seeing how ita so many looked I guess Mila and other staff just decided to let anyone in wearing a single AP piece. The restrictions to model for the AP USA fashion show were more strict than they were kek

>>10790206
Anyone interested in a photo dump from the Paris photos for those who don't use facebook? There were some lovely coordinates and some awful ones..

>>10790206
She looks a little healthier though, good for her!

>>10790232
I saw as well. I wonder if she was ever that thin or if there were filters she used on IG. She's still a bit bony/lanky looking but an amount that would just make me think she happens to be a skinny person VS guaranteed ED.

Maybe her package problem served as a wake-up call for her and allowed her to focus more on herself and her health.

>>10790232
>>10790237
I think she looks a little healthier too. Perhaps staying off social media helped her mental wellbeing and maybe just maybe fixed her immoral behaviour. Including the time when no one wanted to sell or buy from her so she had was forced to have a mini break from excessive buying.

>>10790231
Yes, please!

>>10790240
Starting dump

>>10790253

>>10790240
Some of the worst offenders

>>10790255

>>10790256
Who let him in?

>>10790257

>>10790258
Thief

>>10790258
Disgusting

>>10790260

>>10790262

>>10790259
Look closely at this girl's dress.. it looks like the side is just open and the zip isn't done up?!

>>10790263

>>10790265

>>10790266

>>10790268
Posting some nicer coordinates

>>10790270

>>10790231
>>10790240
>>10790253
This is like 100+ photos though. I feel like putting them in a different thread would be better.

>>10790271

>>10790260
She may not look as bad as she once did but I doubt she stopped restricting. Her skin, hair, eyes and face suggest she still restricts.
She may just have lowered her deficit if she has gained a little weight.

If she started true recovery she would look very different and have obvious recovery signs/symptoms, as soon as one week in. And these symptoms last for up to 6 months.
She doesn't have any so I doubt she has.

She looks like any other woman with AN just trying to manage it and stay alive.
And I don't blame her because eating disorders can be really stubborn and difficult to treat.

And I hate that there are so many people in our community that have them.

>>10790272
>putting them in a different thread would be better
Yeah, the ita thread.

>>10790217
You had to buy a ticket to attend. So, unless the person shows up not wearing Angelic Pretty, I don't think AP Paris can say anything about letting someone in or not

>>10790366
They do that with tea parties all the time though.

>>10790394
It’s hard to effectively filter out itas though. Most events do have rules like “no cosplay accessories” and such but everything else is subjective and you can follow the basic rules including main pieces from the brand in question while still looking like a hot mess.
That said with the number of brazen gross sissies apparently increasing, they should have a “no men” rule, AP is a women’s clothing brand that doesn’t carry any sort of menswear. But of course that will never happen.

>>10790273
The proportions of the dress and those platforms make her look like a midget

>>10790416
We can only dream that they'll ban men from attending. And you're right, it's a women's wear brand.

>>10790416
Ironically though the old man that shops at Paris regularly had a normal coord and dresses well, just looks ugly and like a man which he is.

Most of the other itas were women so excluding men doesn't catch them all. They could say all your pieces have to be AP like A-kon did. You have to be wearing brand to buy from their store on release day in Japan among other things. It wouldn't be that hard to filter out the most egregious people and limit the itas to brand itas.

>>10790266
Is he hiding his boner? I feel gross just looking at this photo

>>10790394
The dress code rules for the showroom were the exact same as their usual tea parties, they only ask you to wear an Angelic Pretty main piece, they don't care how ita you look. They never turned down someone for not looking good

>>10790416
AP and Baby will never impose a no men allowed rule. Half the Chinese scalpers and some of their regular tea party attendees like angelic macarons are male.

>>10790469
>Half the Chinese scalpers
Even more reason why they should

I'm guessing the release will be Good Smile Laundry or whatever this week?

>>10790472
AP cares more about getting money from greasy scrotes than actual lolitas.

>>10790446
>they only ask you to wear an Angelic Pretty main piece

Is that really the only restriction? I guess AP SF finally did something better than other stores then requesting people own a full AP coord for that fashion show.

Like I get the shopgirls can't just say "you're ita stay outside" and I can see why they allow some things offbrand but requiring a full or mostly AP coord would have been somewhat helpful to keep a bit of the cringe away.

>>10790425
touch grass

>>10790486
Well, what is left in the summer catalogue?

>>10790502
anon, are you white knighting yourself? the pose IS weird. get some non-autistic body language, scrote.

>>10790416
Ugh this. Why are there so many gross troons showing up?
At least the guy in the altered salopette had altered it to be shirts which makes it slightly less cringy than the men who are making no effort to pass as women while wearing extremely feminine clothes.

>>10790265
this is the funniest autist coord and pose i've seen in ages

>>10790258
what the actual fuck, why didn't they kick him out?

>>10790523
I agree some people look like shit but I'd say they don't have to pass as women per se. They just have to actually look well dressed and present in an obviously feminine way if they're doing lolita, or an obvious maaculine (even if boyish or youthful) one if they're doing ouji/aristo.

For example: Mana doesn't look like a woman to me but he looks good as far as how he is dressed, even if I'll never know what his nose bridge looks like.

>>10790424
he's wearing mostly normie clothes though if we're talking about >>10790258

>>10790533
no she's talking about the other one, in all AP

>>10790533
No not him, the much older Frenchman from CoF. He wears a lot of full brand OTT coords and if they were on a female they'd be usually considered normal. He even adds different wigs and styles the hair at times. This guy >>10790262

>>10790486
Probably Jelly Candy Toys

>>10790528
There’s a difference between Mana, who doesn’t look like a woman but does extreme makeup to make it work with his style, and a dumpy troop wearing mostly normy clothes, a cheap wig and no makeup. Hell, the other old dude in the full coord at least wore eyeliner and lipstick, although he also looks creepy af.

To be fair, if a woman who looked the same age as those guys do (late 40’s at the youngest) was wearing AP prints like Sugary Carnival it would be pretty weird too. I’m not saying you have to quit wearing lolita at a certain age but you can pick prints that are more mature and coordinate them in a more demure way. God forbid a 50 year old dude wear solids instead of a dress covered in candy.

>>10790262
Cringe

>>10790536
>>10790537
ohh i missed that pic

>>10790540
Yeah no one was defending the dumpy dude people were defending men who may look ugly or manly but put in effort like the other guy you mentioned who even does his makeup.

>>10790540
>God forbid a 50 year old dude wear solids instead of a dress covered in candy.
That's how you know they're just larping as little girls and purposefully surrounding themselves with young women

>>10790256
Is it pregnant?

>>10790540
Nonnie idk if you haven't heard but sissies LOVE Gothic and old school sweet and Milano tier solids in both pastels and dark colors. I've been around long enough to see the pics they'd steal most for their fetish shit and the "lolita" inspired regretsy dresses they sell and buy. Female age players are likelier to be into pastel toy prints and shit for their gross kink shit from the creeps I've seen online.

Lolita has been around long enough that no one thinks you have to change how you dress at a certain age anymore because the once young women who pioneered the fashion are adults now and many still love it. Misako is 40 and that other guy is not that far off in age, no one would bat an eye seeing Misako in Sugary Carnival. She even modeled the Nakayoshi Bunny sample recently.

As far as physical appearance goes I'd rather have a well dressed ugly old man than a poorly dressed ugly young girl at my table during a tea party honestly.

>>10790546
If we want to operate with reason and assume some men out there also just like cute things like women, then there's no reason to assume a non ita male is a predator just because he wears sweet. That's like calling all women in lolita adult babies for liking cute shit.

The dude wearing a JSK as a skirt and nodmie ugly clothes can fuck off but it does no good to be against someone who dresses well while accepting overt itas purely because of gender and/or age. Mana is an old man and definitely weird/eccentric. Is he larping as a woman when he does odd things like have female assistants speak for him when he's in lolita?

>>10790553
Mana doesn’t attend tea parties and show up at meets to hang around with young women.
>>10790549
Are you seriously comparing some busted old sissy to Misako? You really can’t see the difference there?

>>10790271
Sauce on that bag?

>>10790560
I know there's a difference. Someone tried to claim older women wearing sweet is just as bad as a man because it would supposedly be shocking and I pointed out that it's untrue using Misako as an example of one of many older older who wear sweet themes in lolita still.

If I could have my way I'd want the entire lolita community to be 18+ or 21+ and women and well dressed. But obviously when discussing AP policy we should look at what is feasible. Saying no men doesn't work because outside of Japan that won't fly so restricting it at least to reasonably dressed men/brolitas or oujis is at least an enforceable standard because while brand itas exist if you require a full brand coord it's less likely the low effort itas who are also the sissies will show up. Clearly the main piece only rule didn't weed out itas well enough.

This whole thread is age play shit

>>10790604
Gtfo larper

Usagichan Pocket is out this week, as a set and with slightly less square scallops than as seen on Risa

>>10790608
Comes in red, sax, black and pink. I wish they used white detailings on the pink colourway as well, but it's a re-release so

>>10790609
Heart Decoration is cute too

>>10790610

>>10790609
I'm sad there's no jsk
And yeah, would've been nice if it was pink x white since the jsk was like that.

>>10790528
If you show most people who are not into lolita fashion an ad from the GLB with mana modeling moitie dresses they would guess he's a woman.

Any guy who looks very masculine who makes no attempt to pass whilst in lolita fashion will always be highly suspicious to most lolitas myself included. Their age doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter if they dress well, still suspicious.
French guy has made some very questionable coords in the past (posted on btb), as recent as last year.
His wig looks horrible in the paris AP coord so he's not trying that hard either.
Anyone with money can buy a full coord that goes together by simply buying all of the stuff from the same ad, no creativity needed.
That doesn't mean the guys that "dress well" aren't degenerates who into the fashion for the wrong reason(s).

We've (as a community) learned over the last 22 or so years that some predators have enough money and enough sense to copy brand ads so they dress well, they don't always look like stereotypical sissies with a sissy dress sense.

Gingham Color Scheme needs to be added to the list of things AP should never release again.

>>10790610
>>10790611
Oh I really like this in lavender. Reminds me of Topping Heart, but less sissy and much more wearable

>>10790612
The original OP is pink

>>10790608
Sad, the bustle in the original isn’t included

>>10790624
I'm aware the original OP was pink x pink. Just saying it would've been nice if the pockets were white this time, since the pink pockets kind of blend in.

Still cute either way though.

>>10790608
>slightly less square scallops
I wouldn't trust it, based on AP's bait and switch recently.

>>10790612
>>10790624
>no jsk
>no bustle
It sucks, but I guess I'm glad... No reason to fight for it. AP has such poor decision making. Yet again this could have been an MTO instead of a regular release with bad options.

>>10790622
I actually think Heart Decoration almost looks worse than Topping Heart. I don't like either, but Heart Decoration looks "grandma-y" for some reason.

>>10790260
I love the way you just wrote "thief" and nothing for anyone else. Dead. Imagine if both the thief and owner of the package were at the same event together

>>10790327
I've seen like a handful of people in thr lolita community who looks dangerously thin. Almost everyone else is too fucking overweight and obese. This isnt the 90s, being anorexic really isnt some huge issue like it once was. The opposite is true now. People are literally shortening their lifespans because of obesity

>>10790639
The lards in this fashion think anyone less than chubby is an anachan

>>10790617
>no creativity needed.
Creativity is not relevant to wearing a lolita coord. Wearing a fullset is fine. We're all consoomers anyway.

I'd argue the guy is making an attempt to pass but just can't and unless he got surgery on his face and entre body he never will. His only questionable coord that really set gulls off beyond him being old and ugly was a "casual" coord he did with Neon Star Diner skirt I think. It gave off uncanny age play vibes on him but again on a woman no one would have bat an eye. I don't know this dude or like him and would rather he not wear lolita desu but as far as AP weeding out people at events the only way to get rid of him would be to explicitly ban men which isn't likely at their stores in the west.

Mana only looks like a woman to normies that aren't Asian and only see his blurred to shit face. He's dressed in a feminine way for sure but it's clearly the dress, hair, and makeup that makes normkes assume he is a woman. He's quite tall and masculine otherwise.

>>10790640
>>10790639
Earing disorder doesn't mean dangerously thin. Bulimics are often normal sized to chubby. Part of the reason EDs are bad is because of the unhealthy behaviors and not the body looking a specific way.

Side note: there's a lolita who works out all the time and has cute coords and is so cute. I wish more lolitas would be like her. Slim and cute but strong and fit and actually healthy as well.

>>10790608
>No bustle
What's the fucking point

>>10790608
The only version that's nice is the JSK, I'm so sad

Can't buy from Paris today

>>10789457
How would you not know it’s a replica? I’ve own good replicas and the real deal of mcd and dream sky before, you would definitely know the real thing from the replicas just by looking at images of either.

>>10790720
If you don't have a copy to compare in front of you a lot of the good ones are tough to spot certain differences and I'd rather not risk it. If AP wants to rerelease certain prints let them. Eventually they'll get to the ones you want most even if it means we get 20 HL MTOs in the meantime.

>>10790720
I've seen those side by side comparisons of Melty Cream Donuts replica and real. I don't know if I'd be able to tell and I own it. I fully believe there's some near 1:1 replica dresses with AP tags sewn in and no one the wiser.

>>10790739
There are. A girl on weibo showed the difference between fake ap tags and real ones. You can tell the difference though due to the lines. You can buy fake tags on the chinese markets

>>10790740
>>10790739
wasn't this a big issue on xianyu a while ago? it was with MCD and some other print that was ocean themed (not sure which, not a fan of ocean/sea prints)

>>10790746
Yes, you're thinking of Dream Marine.

>>10790747
thank you! i thought it was that one it's also that fluffy chiffon style like misty sky. i think that's popular with chinese comm.

>>10790719
I wonder what the specific reason is. Usually they actually say why.
I'm not interested in the release, but hopefully they actually tell people beforehand when the new release date will happen.

>>10790266
They look so cute and happy together. I'm glad the girl can enjoy the fashion with his boyfriend (I suppose they are in relationship, maybe I'm wrong)

>>10790639
I'm from europe. Most of my local com isn't overweight. I definitely get the impression that the % of people with restrictive eds (like AN) is higher in the lolita community than it is in the general population.

AN isn't the only ed out there and you don't need to be dangerously thin to have a restrictive ed. You don't need to have a bmi of 16 to have severe effects from AN. Some people die from BN, ednos and atypical AN at bmis that are in the normal range.

Being overweight or obese can also be a sign of disordered eating.
Some fat people engage in binging, emotional eating and stress eating. That's not normal or healthy and it's likely such a person would meet diagnostic criteria for Binge Eating Disorder, BN (if they purge) or ednos.

However I do not think every fat person has an ed. For most fat people it's lifestyle related, not ed or illness related. That's what the statistics say and I agree.

>>10790260
I’m really curious how lolitas in her comm feel about ms thief? Did she get kicked out and is a lonelita now? Did she get welcomed back with open arms?

>>10790687
I have no problem with people wearing full sets. It's rather dumb though if someone hasn't developed the eye to mix and match things from their wardrobe.
That's besides the point though. My point was that you don't need to put any effort into thinking up coords if you just copy brand ads and throw money at it. That's how some sissies dress well.

The french guy did an idol coord and an ita coord with cat ears iirc. Both gave of red flags. I do not need to see a middle aged man's thighs thankyouverymuch
If this is that guy attempting to pass he needs to attempt harder. Female impersonators do a better job just with hair and makeup.

"Mana only looks like a woman to normies that aren't Asian and only see his blurred to shit face" I agree with that.
I don't think he looks masculine otherwise though. But that's very subjective.

>>10790688
Are you talking about cake calamity? I haven't heard/seen her in a long time. But dang she was fit and toned looking.

>>10790816
No I was thinking of the Baby SF shopgirl.

>>10790813
She stole from a UK lolita and lives in France so likely nothing happened other than her main LM being banned but the mods left her 2nd account. One of her friends as at the Paris showroom with her as well and was capping for her when everything went down.

>>10790813

She exiled herself, the french comm went like " huh wbk"

French comm's like "We don't talk aabout Zoe"

>>10790819
i know exactly who you mean and she's a great normal healthy size, but i would never describe her as "slim".

>>10790810
>you don't need to be dangerously thin to have a restrictive ed.
kek yes you fucking do, it's literally part of the diagnosis.

>Some people die from BN, ednos and atypical AN at bmis that are in the normal range.

are you joking? how? your health is only at risk if you're actually losing weight, unless you're some kind of womanchild that only eats cheese and bread for every meal and malnourishes yourself. even that wont really kill you though, because millions of poors already do that.

>>10790860
"kek yes you fucking do, it's literally part of the diagnosis"
There are more restrictive eds than just AN.
BN is also a restrictive ed because the purging behavior is an attempt to limit calorie absorption.
Ednos (now called osfed) usually contains restrictive behavior.
Atypical AN always includes restriction.

The only ed that has a weight criteria is AN, the weight criteria is currently "Restriction of energy intake relative to requirements leading to a significantly low body weight in the context of age, sex, developmental trajectory, and physical health."
It is up to the dr to decide what that means for the patient. This means that a patient can be diagnosed with AN at a bmi of 19 if that bmi is significantly low bodyweight for them, in the context of what's healthy for their body.
Granted most normal bmi patients would be diagnosed with atypical AN or ednos if all criteria for AN are met except for the weight criteria. People with atypical AN have lost a significant amount of weight, they just haven't met the weight criteria at the moment of diagnosis yet.
This is usually true for ednos as well.

"your health is only at risk if you're actually losing weight, "
Both malnutrition and being underweight can kill people.
If we ignore suicide for now most people that die because of BN complications die because of heart problems as a result of mineral deficiencies. This can happen even if they maintain a normal bmi.
It's their behavior that leads to these issues, not their weight.
Binging and purging can also kill people when they rupture their GI tract.
People with BN, atypical AN, ednos and AN can all die because of organ failure as a result of malnutrition.

Poor people who are underweight because they don't have access to adequate nutrition aren't trying to lose weight (most of the time), and they will eat food when the opportunity presents itself. This is very different from people with eds because eds are self destructive mental disorders.

>>10790825
This. She probably still has a few lolita friends from her comm, the ones who were harassing anyone who was against their bestie. Not forgetting that they were guilt tripping/claiming the thief is too ill and weak to steal, it's not her fault and she might now be suicidal, despite them sending pretty shitty DMs. I remember seeing a lot of lolitas in their stories expose them.

>>10790688
dunno who you're talking about but working out all the time is a form of ED as well you know...

>>10790902
When I say all the time I mean going to the gym regularly, most people I engage with in lolita fashion don't go to the gym at all.

Regular exercise is literally something doctors tell you to do to stay healthy and not age poorly, a couple of hours at the gym a few days a week are not inherently ED symptoms kek

>>10790975
just found it funny you were talking about how eating disorders don't always just mean anorexia and then the next sentence almost sound like you're encouraging someone with implied exercise bulimia kek

>>10790985
I literally said EDs are such because their behavior is extremely unhealthy, then mentioned someone who is publicly behaving in a healthy way (regular exercise and physical fitness). Others mentioned someone similar.

I'm sorry you're so ESL, fat, or brain damaged from your ED that you think exercising has to be disordered behavior in every instance.

>>10790992
saying someone works out all the time in the middle of a discussion about disordered eating was a weird choice of words for you to use then

but this has nothing to do with AP. Bunny pocket sold out online in 2 seconds. Why do I bother trying?

>>10790985
>implied exercise bulimia
holy shit, how fat are you? regular exercise is not "exercise bulimia" you twitterbrained retard

>>10790880
>using quotes instead of greentext
holy shit the newfaggotry

Malnutrition is extremely hard to die from in a first world country, if you are eating enough food to be a healthy weight. You would have to specifically have an eating disorder that involves eating the same exact nutrient-less garbage for every single meal. Having an "eating disorder" while you weigh a normal weight and eat a variety of food will not kill you kek. You fatasses just want to feel oppressed.

>>10791004
I'm not going to spoonfeed you a load of text about mortality statistics and health risks associated with the different types of eds. You can figure it out yourself by reading relevant pages on https://scienceofeds.org/

People with restrictive eds typically restrict calories and food types which leads to malnutrition. If they keep this up long enough without intervention it will lead to serious health risks and eventually death.
They also typically do fringe diets that reduce protein and/or fat intake to almost zero. This will eventually kill you even if you eat TDEE calories.
If you think people with eds generally have enough sense to care about having a balanced diet you are dead wrong hahahaha.
And even if they do it's fear that will keep them from eating anything outside of their continuously decreasing list of safe foods.

I forgot how ignorant regular people are about eds, thanks for the laugh.
There is no specific ed that involves eating the same thing every meal, they all tend to suffer from this to some extent.

>>10791035
Sure anon. imagine being retarded enough to have an ED where you get malnourished because you only eat the same exact nutrient-deficient microwaved chicken nuggies for every meal, but not even being good enough at it that you actually lose weight. At that point you're just a pathetic womanchild who deserves your fate kek

Can you guys shut up about EDs?

Anyways, I hope Sugar Time is one of the next rereleases. I'm so sick of seeing listings like this.

>>10791056
Take it to the secondhand market thread

>>10791058
>posting a popular AP dress is irrelevant but sperging about eds for 20 posts is totes AP
gulls are severely autistic

>>10790688
>>10790819
Nayrt, I guessed who you were referring too and ia, she looks great.

>>10790856
>i would never describe her as "slim"
Of course she’s slim you absolute bone rattler. Someone mentions EDs and you all swarm out of lurking like flies on shit. Kindly fuck off back to your regularly scheduled programming of reading Wintergirls and bodychecking on tiktok.

>>10790539
I thought it would be JCT this week t b h. I bought some accessories during the Paris anniversary and they probably won’t arrive until a couple of weeks after the jp release. I’m impatient.

It almost seems like this week’s release was thrown together at the last minute bc supply chain issues. The ugly gingham JSKs and Sailor Marine Kitten are Granba leftovers surely?

>>10791095
I hope jct will drop next week, I also bought something from the Paris Anniversary Fair and am getting a bit impatient. I'm also really looking forward to the new cutsews and jackets that weren't part of the fair

>>10791095
Sometimes it's good to take a look at whatever BABY's releasing the same week. Both brands will occasionally release similar dresses at the same time. They just released their own Usakumya (Bunny) Pocket series the day before.

Surely JCT will be the next print though. It'd be weird if Sunny Smile Laundry was next.

>>10791127
i want whatever cut that pink one is.

>>10791138
Its the JSK over a short sleeve blouse

>>10791054
Yes, having an ed is retarded. I never claimed otherwise.

All people with eds who restrict calories and food types (and some indeed only eat microwaved chicken nuggies, we nickname those people junk food anas) do continue to lose weight. CICO still exists.
Some of them die or get hospitalized before they reach underweight bmi though.
The people with eds who remain weight stable in the normal weight range tend to have BN.
BN can kill people of any weight because of the aforementioned heart issues and GI rupture.

>>10791165
this is the angelic pretty thread

>>10791156
Looks like milkshake or neon star diner style of blouse

>>10791127
The bag is so freaking cute. Actually the whole print is adorable, I love the labels on the detergent packages.

>>10791166
Having an ed is very AP don't you know.

>>10791167
>>10791138
Here you can see it a little clearer. It is indeed milkshake-style, with the same kind of collar. The striped fabric matches what is used on the JSK.

>>10791187

>>10791187
yes! thank you!

>>10791127
Old topic, but does anyone else just refuse to buy a print if it's on polyester?
I'm at that point now, and it feels bad passing on things like Happy Garland or Jelly Candy Toys, but polyester has no appeal to me (unless it's being used for a design element like chiffon, etc). I remember missing out on Ice Cream Parlor because I was too slow and being sad, but now I'm happy I didn't spend money on it.

>>10791225
That's how I am with most AP as well. Other brands have okay poly and blends but AP is not to be trusted.

>>10789720
the gray one.

>>10791225
Yes. Also polyester is not worth the amount that they're selling for. It also looks limp and cheap and doesn't always fit well.

remember a few days ago when we were thinking of silly AP names

why not make them real?

get in here >>10788415 - if god did not want us to make fake ap prints, she would not have trained craiyon on real ap prints.

>>10791225
In general I don’t mind poly. I find it easier to store and care for - it tends to resist wear/tear/fading etc. a lot better than cotton. It lends itself well to bright, all-over prints e.g. JCT, Fancy Candy

On the other hand some prints would’ve looked so much better on cotton. Cherry Stamp comes to mind immediately.

>>10791660
Lunar Crystal Garden looks sick, A+ would fight Chinese scalpers for

>>10791225
I 100% skip prints if it's been printed on viyella. (Like Flower Garden Teatime).

If it's grosgrain like those prints you mentioned, I'm fine with them. The feel is fine, doesn't wrinkle, and won't fade.

>>10791819
Me too, Grosgrain isn’t great but a little more tolerable. I’m slowly selling off all my older dresses in viyella because I don’t like how they feel.

Though after being an AP stan for so many years, it’s finally gotten to the point where I’ve given up on buying from them. Everything lately had cheap feeling materials and/or weird fit issues in general. Even the accessories.

>>10791859
>Though after being an AP stan for so many years, it’s finally gotten to the point where I’ve given up on buying from them
Are you me?
In general I've only been buying the accessories. Then I stopped buying OTKs because of the zero stretch issue. Even the necklaces got weirdly longer, so they hang too low on the bodice of most dresses? (I swear I'm going to add my own jump rings and lobster clasp to wear them shorter).
I still call myself an AP whore, but I don't know how true that is anymore when I'm fighting for decade old dresses secondhand and hardly ever participate in new releases (minus MTOs)
I even gave nu AP a chance - bought a new blouse, hated it. Bought a new plush bag, hated it. Saw dresses IRL, hated it. And now even the MTOs are having quality issues. AP might legitimately be the reason I quit the fashion (if I ever do).

Just a heads up, AP Paris are having reservations for Bunny Pocket today, also the Misty Sky JSK sets.

>>10792051
*Dream Sky. I'm an idiot.

More Holy Lantern in the online store in case you feel there hasn't been enough already.

does anyone know the sizing on the dream sky sets?

>>10792084
It's the same base cut as Misty Sky. Most dresses like that are 85-105 cm.

>>10792051
It looks like prices are comparable to secondhand japan too, so probably worth grabbing since there's not much on the market in japan. solids don't get as much stock

>>10792084
Length: Approximately 89 cm (including lace 2 cm)
Bust: Approximately 87-109 cm
West switching position: Approximately 85-103 cm

I'll see if AP USA gets it. I'm considering selling my OP from the last release. It rides up on me because of the bodice shape and satin lining.

>>10792083
Kinda feels like they thought they would get more orders, but didn't.

>>10792053
Do we know if they'll re-release the matching purse?

>>10792124
Probably not. They don't re-release accessories or bags

>>10792131
are you new?

>>10792124
AP bags are all trash desu so who cares. It'll peel and fall apart nearly instantly if the plush bag quality is any indication

>>10792142
>>10792124
I also wish AP would rerelease this bag, and the Sugar Hearts one.
Even if it peeled, buying a replica just isn't the same. I know they'll never do it though.

>>10792144
I hate the design personally. Cute in theory but the text is too close to the edges of the hearts. Most of the colorways of the ring are like that too, with squished text. I would rather they release a new version with Angelic Pretty or something cute on it with a single heart like this colorway of the ring.

>>10792120
They have reached their capacity for delivery in March next year. The new MTO is scheduled for June, so this is extra slots.

>>10790206
Can I please get the backstory on this?

>>10792193
use the archive nonny

>>10792144
I have the sugar hearts bag in two colorways and the shooting star bag in two colorways. The star bags are peeling to shit. The sugar hearts one is okay for now, but I don't expect it to to stand another wearing.

If AP used a tougher material and charged a little extra for that, most people would be fine with it. It's irritating to buy something that just deterorates. I'm going to start buying indie bags from now on.

Finally, a worn photo!

>>10792206
I sold my sugar hearts bag as I noticed it was starting to flake away

>>10792399
based

>>10792399
I've also sold all my old AP bags made from that soft peeling pleather. Their hard/shiny pleather ones are quite sturdy and good tho.

>>10792364
why are the balls so big

>>10792460
Yep, for a while I didn't understand why everyone's bags were peeling so much because I only had ones made of the hard sturdy stuff. Well I got one of the other type and now I know.

>>10791944
>Even the necklaces got weirdly longer, so they hang too low on the bodice of most dresses?
This bothers me so much too. They started making a lot of things weirdly bigger. The new wristcuffs are comically huge.

>>10792364
doesn't look as bad as the other photos weirdly

>>10792472
>new wristcuffs are comically huge
Oh man I totally forgot about this.
The Moco Moco Bunny wristcuffs were kind of a disaster. I somehow managed to get three colorway at release, and they were all different sizes. One colorway was actually snug, while the others were so loose that they freely spun around my wrists.
I'm not sure about other releases though, because I haven't bought many new wristcuffs.

>>10792502
I got the new Marshmallow Border OTKs when the SC MTO happened and they were so weirdly tight on my legs but also really thin and plasticky that I sold them immediately after trying them on. I have a bunch of older AP otks that are super thick and cozy but these were shit.

>>10792505
Same. The last OTKs I bought were the rerelease of Melody Toys. I felt like I was ripping them apart by just pulling them up my leg.

>>10792505
I kept the marshmallow border otks and they already got a hole in the toe. It's an easy fix but for fuck's sake ap.

>>10792505
I've got two AP otks that I can't find on lolibrary but while one are the comfiest otks I own, the second has this weird thread near the cuff that is NOT elastic. It digs into my thigh even though I'm underweight. Now they just sit in my closet, pristine and adorable, making me mad to look at.

>>10792465
because AP designers like big balls

>>10792844
ok this got a chuckle out of me

>>10792472
Ugh the soft pleather is so awful. The first and only AP bag I got was a basic black heart shape and it peeled so badly I never bought another bag from them. I didn't know there was a hard pleather used for some of the bags, I just assumed that everyone didn't use their bags except to take photos with.

>>10792986
The harder pleather was used in the early 2000’s until about 2008-2009ish. I don’t remember exactly when they changed it. It’s shinier and thicker but it holds up super well. I have bags that are in like new condition even after being used for years. I refuse to buy any bags from AP that aren’t made out of this after seeing how the new ones flake. I think that they might have stopped manufacturing this kind of pleather or something because they changed the materials for bags long before the rest of their quality went to shit.
I have heard that the glitter pleather bags hold up, which makes sense since it has the similar shiny look and smooth texture.

>>10792986
>>10793060
Stupid question here, but is this bag made out of the soft pleather everyone is talking about?
I don't buy many AP bags that aren't plush, and my only other comparison is the Dream Fantasy bag in the New Years/lucky pack set (it's extremely soft pleather and literally started flaking the moment I took it out of it's original packaging in 2018. I bought it new/never worn/still had the little wrap around the shoulder strap to keep it tied together).

>>10793073
regardless of what kind of pleather it is its fucking ugly anon

>>10793073
This is the soft flaky kind anon.

>>10793073
If it doesn't have an intense shine reflecting off of it, then it's soft pleather

>>10793077
I agree though. I wish AP rereleased the old Lyrical face bags instead.

>>10793078
>>10793080
Okay, thanks anons. I thought it was the soft kind, but felt like I was going crazy.

>>10793060
I can vouch for the glitter bags. I had a star one from 2015 or so and it was the hard type. I have no idea why they use such a shitty pleather for the matte bags. I even had cheap bags from eBay that held up better.

Jelly Candy Toys this week!

>>10793152
So much excitement for a really ugly print

Tired of these nu sweet shit.

I want to see a new kira imai print

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>>10793152
Thank you, next.

>>10793157

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>>10793154
>new kira imai print
No, then you. I don't want to see this.
Just give us MTOs of old stuff.

>>10793169
Lol at everyone who spent over 10k yen on this.

>>10793154
>new kira imai print
No thank you.
Just give us MTOs of old stuff.

>>10793169
Lol at everyone who spent over 10k yen on this.

>>10793175
>over 10k yen
Please tell me you're joking

>>10793175
and good luck to everyone trying to get one in a bloodbath

>>10793170
I need these wrist cuffs

>>10793175
Idc
>>10793177
No, she wasn't kidding I purchased this

https://item.fril.jp/f46102cc23199dcf4402f5c91cc4ad9b

>>10793152
Ugh I'm so bored of JCT

>>10793155
>>10793156
Which colours do you think will be most popular?

>>10793162
I was looking forward to the cutsews but they’re a bit disappointing. Like a 10 year old let loose with some craft supplies and an old Fruit of the Loom T-shirt.

>>10793167
I missed two of the clips last time, hope I can complete the squad~

>>10793250
I will never tire of JCT

>>10793253
Yellow JSK went quick on Paris site and I can imagine the yellow salo being super popular in China & Japan

>>10793154
Why? Most of the new ones suck too. She doesn't draw her normal art for prints, anymore.

>>10793283
Nevermind. I forgot this board was full of newfags with opinions and no basis. u probably didn't realize she hasn't done her normal art for a very long ass time.

>>10793246
The wristcuffs look horrible this time around. The pink lace they used is darker and sticks out like a sore thumb. Also they don't even have the transparent star charm. It's just the boring metal one.

>>10793307
Was just about to mention that. Just horrid.

They've been using darker pink lace on other cuffs this year as well and I have not been a fan. Makes it harder to match pastels.

>>10793321
>They've been using darker pink lace on other cuffs this year as well and I have not been a fan. Makes it harder to match pastels.

Yes. AP literally baiting me with a pastel pink photo and then sending shit with neon lace every time.

>>10793323
Just get baby wristcuffs if you want pastel pink

>>10793324
I wanted pink and red tulle lace specifically. For solids or pink and brown and toechon lace of all colors I've found some great BTSSB ones I already own.

>>10793324
Nta, but most baby wristcuffs are just white lace and pink ribbons.

If you want cuffs that are pink x pink or pink x another color besides white, you'll usually have to look at AP's.

>>10793175
yes endless mtos of classic dresses pleeeease. why does ap not want the insane amounts of money they would make from those? the west, china, and japan are all over the mtos every time and china by itself must make them a good million on just one mto

>>10793257
>>10793162
The sleeves are really cute, but I wish they added more to the rest of it...
Should've added some buttons and lace down the center

>>10793365
They can't handle endless MTOs. They're a logistics nightmare with the amount of reservations and address changes they have to keep track of. Plus their factories can only handle so many orders at once, and delays are another customer service nightmare. Two MTOs already got delayed this year because of unforeseen circumstances.

>>10793438
I think Baby's system of doing smaller reservations of re-releases on an ongoing basis is working well for them. They seem able to honor their old designs and quality, while tapping into a cash cow. Their reputation is preserved. AP should consider going that way.

>>10793438
they outsource to countries like philippines and myanmar for many of their mtos so it has nothing to do with the factories not being able to handle it. those third world factories take whatever is thrown at them. they could always outsource the other jobs too since it's not like they have an issue with exploitative labor

>>10793438
Except you can tell AP isn't drowning in MTOs.
They put the HL MTO back up at the beginning of this week, practically begging people to order out of FOMO. If they were struggling to provide MTOs, they'd probably be a little bit more careful about which ones to release to bring in money, and HL for the 5th or whatever time is the stupidest pick.
I agree there can't be infinite MTOs, but they could definitely do more. The only reason they had any trouble was Shanghai shutting down for 1+ month.

>>10793542
I don’t think they have the logistics to have too many MTOs in production at once. It seems like it’s generally 3-5 at once with 2-3 months between them. I think this is to make sure they don’t flood the stores with dresses waiting to get picked up and not getting too many in at once that need to be shipped. If things were running more smoothly as far as production and shipping, it would probably be possible for a few more, but with the supply chain and shipping backed up all over the world, it causes delays and throws off the whole schedule.
I agree that they’d be better off picking different dresses for MTOs. I think they expected Holy Lantern to sell a lot because it sold well before, but to a degree the market is flooded with it. Was Sugary Carnival cotton? It seems like they are hesitant to release prints on cotton, maybe they are limited in how much they can get printed, or they don’t want to do it because it’s more expensive and they don’t want to raise the prices, since I’m sure most people would be fine paying more for cotton. Did Japanese and Chinese lolitas complain about Honey Cake being poly for the MTO? If that’s the case, I can see them thinking they need to use cotton for rereleases of cotton dresses (as they should). I’m trying to rationalize why they aren’t picking old and popular prints that would sell more dresses than something that’s been released 5 times already.

>>10793764
>Was Sugary Carnival cotton?
no
>Did Japanese and Chinese lolitas complain about Honey Cake being poly for the MTO?
no. so many ap dresses are poly today precisely because asian lolitas prefer it, it saves space in their overcrowded countries

>>10793814
What? The Sugary Carnival MTO was cotton.

>>10793820
anon is just parroting shit she's heard and didn't fact check anything.

>>10793814
I'd rather continue to have my cotton dresses in the limited space of my wardrobe (which most people don't even have) than buy poly, these people are crazy.

>>10793930
Hard same.
I rather take up space with quality, than save space by buying something inferior.

>>10793814
We've had this conversation before but poly doesn't actually save that much space compared to light cotton with no inbuilt petti

RinRin wearing Photogenic Palette

>>10793961

Is there any idea on when Dream Doll is supposed to come out and whether it's an MTO?

>>10793962
This would be really cute if it weren’t for the weirdly deformed ponies.

>>10793961
>>10793962
goddamn this cut is terrible, makes her look huge

>>10793948
yeah but the point is it won't wrinkle as much in a tightly stuffed closet. still prefer cotton, though.

>>10793542
AP rereleases their iconic chiffon prints at very common intervals. Cotton print rereleases come up fewer times per year and you will rarely see the same cotton print get yearly rereleases aside from Melody Toys for some reason. I could be talking out of my ass, but it seems like chiffon/poly rereleases are easier to produce or less of a risk for AP.

>>10793512
You can grapple with the morals of buying from a company that uses exploitative labor yourself, but do you think that AP using cheap labor means they have infinite resources. They still have to make sure the factories they produce at are producing work at the quality they want and are capable of handling the complicated details AP's pieces have, which aren't in infinite supply. This isn't shein that will ship out whatever garbage their workers can sew in under five minutes.

>>10793961
She looks ita as fuck. Wear a cut that fits your body type uggo.

don't get baited, friends

>>10789402
What the fuck is up with this RinRin vendetta tard?

>>10794071
Wow jealousy is quite a curse, isn't it?

>>10793512
>it's not like they have an issue with exploitative labor
So kawaii uwu

>>10793997
ngl they look like they have bull horns

>>10794019
I was at Haenuli's panel at Tekko. People were asking about her releasing items in cotton rather than poly. Here's a few things she brought up. Keep in mind, she's much smaller as an indie brand. She's not going to have the same overhead as AP.

- Cotton requires a LOT of waste to get it printed. From growing the cotton, to producing it, dying and adding a custom print. It's a difficult and wasteful process. This adds a lot to cost. It might disintigrate over time rather than release plastic fibers. But it's still wasteful (as well as expensive.)

- Poly is much easier to print on, requires less waste and resources, and therefore costs much less. Again, still made of plastic. But if you have a high demand for an item, poly is going to be a more cost-effective choice as it can be produced quickly and cheaply.

This is probably why AP keeps pumping out the chiffon re-releases and does cottom much less frequently. It's just more reliable from a business perspective.

Either way, you're going to get waste and pollution no matter what material. But I feel better overall about buying lolita rather than normie fast fashion. It's going to last longer. It is constructed with more care. I'm not washing it as frequently (layering so it doesn't get dirty).

>>10794163
>It is constructed with more care
Imagine saying this in an AP thread, their quality control in particular conoared to other brands has gone downhill recently

>>10794163
>I'm not washing it as frequently
The entire planet is on fire if you're wearing lolita anywhere but the arctic your dead skin and sweat is getting on your clothes nonny. Wash your fucking clothes before AP releases another laundry print.

>>10794163
>>10794212
>your dead skin and sweat is getting on your clothes
This, please wash your clothes. The sweat and dead skin builds up and yellows your clothes slowly over time. You won’t see it right away and might think it’s fine, but check back months later and your seemingly clean clothes will have yellowed. I learned my lesson about this when I was younger and was my clothes after every wear now.

>>10794555
>inb4 retard anon comes in saying we all have diseases because she doesn't know sweat oxidizes

>>10793961
Is it just me or does this print have a weird amount of empty space?

>>10794618
The space around the lollipop sticks throws it off

Imagine stolen from an Instagram video.

More floppy bonnets confirmed. Did AP even QC this catastrophe?

>>10795111
Forget the bonnet. Imagine being this ita from the shoulders up.

>>10795168
A candid screenshot of a video someone made to try on a shitty ugly bonnet presumably right out of the box isn't flattering? Shocking.

>>10795111
>>10795198
Someone else on twitter said the bonnet is awful too

>>10795198
Spotted the role player

>>10795111
Reminder that this is what the average /cgl/ poster looks like

>>10795240
What, completely normal? Some of you are so fucking poisoned by perfectly posed, filtered instagram shots istg

>>10795240
I don't know who she is but I mean she isn't the most stunning girl in the world but most people are around her level of attractiveness. Do you go outside much?

>>10795250
>>10795258
t. mid 30s lolitas who still have greasy hair and poor styling

>>10795278
nayrt but literally everyone can look like shit if you pause at a weird face mid-sentence. this isn't the gotcha you think it is

>>10795111
What an ugly coord

>>10795291
she is really ugly

>>10795250
Some of us wash our faces, wash and brush our hair and don’t look unkempt when we take selfies.

Sorry you got posted.

>>10795434
Nta but she looks clean and normal. She didn't take a selfie she was filming how dumb the bonnet looks with no structure. She's not done up because it was a demonstration not a real coord shot I'm assuming.

The girl in the screenshot isn't even the person who posted her apparently. I saw the IG story shared by someone else before it even appeared itt.

>>10795438
Imagine typing two paragraphs defending some greasy rando that’s totally not you

>>10795501
Imagine being so mentally compromised that you think it takes that much effort to type 4 sentences.

>>10795438
she's ugly

>>10795523
I don't think she's attractive but nothing about her appearance implies that she's unhygenic which is what anons were accusing her of.

>>10795111
This is literally what happened with the original bonnet

>>10795502
>n-n-no you!!!

If anyone cares, here's the Nakayoshi leftovers for the USA store.

>>10793961
Pretty sure the shoes are ETC is that ok?

>>10796053
If they aren't replicas, AP doesn't care

>>10795600
Thanks anon!