/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10731416
I have a weird, wide face, feminine lower half of my face, ssj3 goku tier browridge, oddly narrow shoulders but a large ribcage, gyno, weird hands, etc. I just have very strange proportions in my eyes and I don't think I can cosplay much well. Even specifically ugly characters are usually ugly in a way that doesn't fit me. Like I literally lived the wow neckbeard lifestyle for a long time, but I'd never make a convincing cosplay the guy from southpark.
I say just do what you like, you're never going to be exactly like the character. I just wouldn't cosplay something that's 100% unlike you if you're aiming to be accurate to the original media. And not aiming for 100% accuracy is fine, sometimes it's cool to have your own take on the character.
I guess it boils down to your reasons for cosplaying. Some people really care about "bringing the character to life", others are in it for other reasons.

>>10731416
I think this is true. I would say you can cosplay if you want to, no one is stopping you since cosplay is for everyone, but if you don't fit the character don't expect anyone to compliment you.
For example I dislike when people of darker color skin cosplay light skin characters because it just doesn't fit the character. I know they have no control over it, and these days it's socially unacceptable to say you dislike it, so I will keep those thoughts to myself.
If you cosplay just for fun, then who cares lol. Don't need to take anyone's word if you don't take it seriously. I take it seriously though, so I actively seek feedback and try to recreate the character to the best of my ability. like >>10731420 said if you care about the accuracy it would be better to not cosplay characters you don't think you could recreate well (to an extent).

>>10731416
>right
You can do what you want. It's your money. She's just explain her view.

>>10731416
Correct. Cosplay is for everyone, but you should always see if you can pull off character X better than character Y. If you're fat, don't cosplay someone skinny. if you're short, don't cosplay someone tall. It'll look really unusual in group shoots.

There's characters you like and characters you can pull off. Ideally, you want the char to be both. I've done the former and latter separately; the former feels better but the latter gets you way more attention/hype. I just end up immersing myself in the content until I start to like the character

>>10731416
They're anime characters not gods.

>>10731445
>I dislike when people of darker color skin cosplay light skin characters because it just doesn't fit the character. I know they have no control over it, and these days it's socially unacceptable to say you dislike it, so I will keep those thoughts to myself.


Just accept you are racist and don't really want to do anything about it. No need to try and justify it it.

>>10732664
Nayrt but I am a legitimate racist in the sense I don't think races should live together or at minimum other races should be an insignificant minority but this just straight up isn't racism. It's a point about accuracy.

cosplaying like literally everything else, is always for people who are attractive.
if you're not attractive, terms and conditions apply.

>>10732670
Nah it's racism

>>10732670
nyart, that's racism.

and to answer OP, kinda, but also there are things i can't change about myself like how tall i am or am not. So I just get as close as i can and accept that It's ever a 100%

>>10731445
Do you say the same about white/lighter skin people cosplaying brown or black characters? I find it weird how people who complain about darker people cosplaying pale characters because muh accuracy tend to not care about the reverse. Wonder why.

>>10732721
>>10732725
>this character who isn't black being cosplayed by a black person doesn't look accurate to the character because the character isn't black
>>Racism

How? If racism is just pointing out that black skin looks different to white skin, then racism loses it meaning entirely.

>>10732865
Nayrt but have you been living under a rock for the past decade? If someone event hints they made their skin darker to fit the character they are immediately dogpiled by everyone for "black face".

>>10732869
look dude, you know you're racist. we know you're racist. what we're saying is that caring about it is a side effect of racism. Or at least it's what i'm saying.You dont think people should cosplay characters because their skin makes them inaccurate, locking out a large number of people.it's racism.

>>10732877
Yes I already said I'm racist. Thank you for clarifying.

Caring about the accuracy of a character in a cosplay of that character is racism?

>You dont think people should cosplay characters because their skin makes them inaccurate
Lmao where did I say that? I think people can cosplay whatever they want but to expect people to think your portrayal is 100% accurate is a different thing.

>>10732871
The people who complain its blackface vs the people who bitch and moan about accuracy are, like, two completely separate groups.

>>10732882
Sure but the point is, the reason you never hear about complaints of accuracy is simply because white people avoid cosplaying dark characters like the fucking plague to avoid the racism accusations. Those who do cosplay black characters are immediately slammed with accusations of racism rather than accuracy because people know that it's basically impossible to defend yourself from accusations of racism because it's a witch hunt whereas accusations of inaccuracy are easily brushed of with "I know it's not 100% accurate."

Racism is just the more powerful clout chasing card compared to accuracy, so people will always choose it.

>>10732871
How about cosplay makeup specifically designed to let you change your skin tone? Would that be okay to use in the US?

>>10732931
I would imagine if you're trying to make your skin tone darker to appear closer to another race, no.

Yes, absolutely. I'm lucky that I'm 5 feet tall and small, so I fit a lot of characters, but at the same time I love cosplaying big tall dudes for some reason. It's figuring out creative ways to overcome this that's one of the best parts of cosplay. I managed to cosplay Darth Vader for Halloween last year by building boot lifts from scratch and scaling the costume and the rest of my body to match. Managed to make myself 6'3" in costume just because I was too stubborn to be a short Vader.
I love seeing anyone having a great time cosplaying and I'll be happy for and compliment even the shittiest looking gremlin Miku's I see because I can tell they're having a good time, but at the same time I wouldn't be caught dead myself in a half-assed costume.

How about choosing not to cosplay a different body type (tall/short/fat/skinny) out of respect and love for the character rather than what's socially acceptable?

>>10733009
That mindset doesn't exist when all people want is asspats.

>>10731416
No, cosplay is not for everyone. Commit some damn effort.

>>10732881
Answer >>10732865 you coward

>>10732664
aaaaand there it goes.

>youre racist for criticizing a cosplay

No it seems Im only racist when the person is dark skinned.

>>10732865
This is a nothingburger counter example. There's more lighter skinned characters to cosplay than darker skinned. By statistics alone, no one would do black skinned characters as much as they will do a lighter skinned. There's no correlation there.

I think all of us criticize bad cosplay. And yes a different skin tone will cause some issues. Which is why Id think it weird for any light skin person to cosplay a Samuel L Jackson character (except for Fury cause he was originally white anyway)

>>10733104
I did you retard here:>>10732865

>>10733264
no I mean the other way around, they didnt give you a good answer and are just being racist

>>10732664
hi, I am racist and I don't think the other anon is being racist, he isn't angry at you monkeys trying to look like humans he just thinks it isn't accurate.

report my post if my opinions hurts your thin dark skin too much, fight the oppression of a random anon voicing his opinion, queen.

>>10731416
shes not real stop it this is weird !

>>10733466
You say you're a racist yet you don't believe that black people have literal thicker skin than whites like other racists do...curious...

I'm racist. I have nothing else to add to this thread. Thanks

>>10732258
100% agree with you

I just hate fat and ugly people. Physiognomy might be a "pseudoscience" but anyone with any awareness of the world can easily tell you that people who are ugly outside are usually ugly inside. They always have a chip on their shoulder or they just straight up don't respect themselves. How are you expected to respect -or get respect from- someone that doesn't respect themselves?

Oh boy I hope this thread doesn't immediately derail into incendiary off topic ju-- Sasuga.
>>10733956
>Physiognomy might be a "pseudoscience"
>Immediately clarifies why it's not
And yes, I am in full agreement, just amused by this and assume that's the purpose of the quotation marks. Yes, the external is a reflection of the internal (more often than not). Having a job where I only interact with people for a few seconds has given me an extra sense on how to predict the immediate future, you might say. It's almost always right, and one of the ways to predict their behavior is appearance. As already stated in the con horror stories thread, I made the mistake of telling myself someone was no threat when they clearly were. It was the last time I ever did that.
>people who are ugly outside are usually ugly inside. They always have a chip on their shoulder
So the majority of this board then

>>10733956
most humans in general are ugly inside regardless of what they look like

>>10733912
yeah, it's a total bummer. I like a lot of younger/high school characters (which is most shonen protags...), but I'm 5'11 and it's going to look wack as fuck if I'm taller than the "tall" characters. I was planning on doing Black Star but if I'm level with the Stein's and taller than the Maka's and Soul's, the group photos are going to look goofy as hell. At the same time, I've been told that I can completely fucking SLAY Howl (and the costume would be like a 2 weekend max thing, really easy), but I'm not a fan of the character. Going to suck it up and just watch the movie a bunch of times.

As long as you look like you're having a good time and you're polite, go hog wild.
Literally just be confident.

>>10733965
Get out more

>>10734098
>completely fucking SLAY
Stop using that word.

>>10734098
Read the book, it's better.

>>10732871
There was that cosplayer who wore a silicon bodysuit of a darker skinned character and got disqualified and ostracised for blackface.

Literally wearing a mask is blackface.

>>10731416
I kind of have it easy in that I tend to imprint on/relate to characters that physically resemble me. I definitely "disqualify" myself from doing certain cosplays - for instance, I have a slender frame and am not muscular so I don't think I'd make a good Joseph Joestar or Batou, BUT that's a personal thing because I wouldn't be satisfied or feel good in those cosplays. If I see someone with my body type cosplaying those characters my reaction isn't "gross DYEL you should be ashamed of yourself".
For me a lot of the fun of cosplay is in that granular close study of the source material and trying to recreate it, but I get that a lot of people approach cosplay more casually, wearing a cosplay of a character as the next step up from wearing a t-shirt with them on that. Live and let live, I guess.

It's undeniable that there's the "x-factor" of a cosplay looking even better if you resemble the character/actor. I've noticed that the strongest positive reactions include "you really look like [actor]", even with the best makeup skills there's still that ceiling of your proportions/bone structure/whatever.

>>10731416
Not every body type looks good in every clothing style. I look terrible in anything a-line, so I avoid cosplaying characters that wear a-line outfits. I can rock body-con dresses or anything with a suit-coat, so I gravitate to characters who wear those- but only if I like the character.

>>10731416
Honestly I don't think it's for everyone. People can do what they want, but I don't think everyone should do it unless they are close to the character. I consider cosplay to be reserved for relatively attractive looking people who are fit and thin. However, I think when people do outlier cosplays that play off their bodies I'm all for it. Like really fat guys doing Roadhog. And yes I hold myself to this belief, I'm fat and ugly and therefore do not cosplay. Once I find the right tall, fat and ugly character for me, maybe I will.

>>10733009
>How about choosing not to cosplay a different body type (tall/short/fat/skinny) out of respect and love for the character

>>10731416
I'm bald so cosplaying non-bald characters would look pretty weird, and I dont like wigs
On the bright side, I'm not fat and i think i'm not butt ugly so I can at least pull off something like Saitama or Agent 47

>>10732664
>racist for thinking people would look better if they cosplayed characters that looked like them
nigga that's not how it works
I'm mixed and my skin leans towards a tarket done. I'm not gonna cosplay Roy Mustang from FMA, I'll do Archer (F/SN) or Kamina (TTGL) like I've done in the past

surely, I actually can cosplay Roy Mustang or Lucy (Elfen Lied) if I want to, and that's 100% ok as well, but I'm also 100% aware I'll look silly while doing so.

>>10741083
>tarket done
meant to say darker tone
sorry, just woke up.

>>10731416
Absolutey, to each their own though. I say the same thing, but never will I have self-esteem and other shit when I was a fat fuck.

>>10731416
Yes, absolutely.

>>10732664
this you?

>>10741345
Ignore all these social media bitches. they just want to control people due to their own personal issues

>>10731416
I'm fine with people cosplaying whatever but I really hate the basic level OC's people be putting out. a nurse, succubus, elf, cyperpunk; etc. or any generic shit. Especially if it's underwear or bikini based.

I also hate when women take an already lacking clothing character and give them less clothing. For example, someone cosplaying Yoko Littner and giving her a thong or shorter shorts than she already wears.

>>10731416
As long as you don't look like those TikTok kids with a bunch of shit in your fried wig and drag queen makeup, I don't care who or what you cosplay.

I hold myself to a high standard, though. I guess. I keep myself in shape and do obsessive skincare routines to make sure my face doesn't look like shit. I usually only pick characters with hair colors that compliment my skin tone, too.

>>10732670
How close do you keep your head next to your space heater racist chan?

>>10741345
>a white bitch
Every single time.

>>10731416
>Don't criticize other's cosplay choices unless they ask for criticism.
>Use your own standards for what you wear and only apply them for yourself and don't project them on to others no matter how strict or lax they are.

This is... completely rational!

>>10731445
>For example I dislike when people of darker color skin cosplay light skin characters because it just doesn't fit the character.
Whack ass opinion

>>10731416

Of course cosplay is for everyone. I just hate halfassed, bad cosplay. Looks that those cosplayers just want attention and they don't even care about the cosplay or the character.

Tailor that shit right, bros and sis.

>>10741345
>>10744005

The proper name is KAREN.

Fuck Americunts. You can't force other countries to live to the same standarts as yours. You are SO racist and disrespectful with people from other races and countries. Do you never stop and think "well, maybe their society is different because their history was different from ours"?

Most countries in the world have a 99% of the population from just one race. They don't have the race issues that America has. So you can't force your shit thoughts into them BECAUSE IT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE.

In Europe, being tanned is a symbol of being rich. It means you can go on vacation to a sunny place and tan yourself under the sun. In Asia, it means you are poor because you work in hard jobs under the sun, which are poorly paid.

In America it means racism because YOU GUYS ARE RACIST. But people from other countries are not.

Jesus Christ I really hate Americunt Karens.

>>10744149

Shave that hair from your face + wear proper eye make-up and perfect cosplay.

>>10746255
typical seething eurofag lmao

>>10746243
>hate halfassed, bad cosplay.
the forst step is probably choosing the wrong character for your body characteristic, i mean fatass female should've cosplay big mom not nami

>>10746751
have fun with sjw trying destroy every hobby

>>10731416
I agree with her, but I don't hold others to my own standard.
When you're darker skinned it really is hard to cosplay to what you look like. I end up feeling like I have to cosplay characters I don't know or care about, random background characters, or nobodies most of the time because I only fit a small subset of a small subset of anime characters. Or I have to stick to more Western sources like comics or films I don't read or watch. I'm willing to do it, but I won't judge anyone who doesn't choose to restrict themselves.

The opinions in this thread are partially why cosplay has been so difficult for me lately. I don't have anyone I want to cosplay that fits my skin tone and it sucks out the enjoyment for me. I'm getting too old to spend 3 months on a costume for a character I don't really care for. Wish I could just cosplay my favorite characters with similar body types but then I berate myself for misrepresenting them.