/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10722547
What is this and why should anybody care

>>10722547
isn't that just April Fools day? but they want it in March?

>>10722559
Nah they’re dead serious. It’s basically saying lolitas have too much a stick up their ass to accept any sort of experimentation within the style that these non-lolitas have made a day for people to throw the oppressive rules to the wind.

>>10722567
?????
This makes no sense. It's clothes, if you want to experiment, just wear them at home?? If you can't take criticism just don't take picture? Man, really. At least it could be a good excuse to go to itas photos and comment "ohh is that your Coord for ita day?"

KEK our ita thread is going to be full or poorly dressed dipshits that day. I'm convinced whoever made this must be trollinf

>>10722547

They literally want their cake (no conceit because it's fun gaiz) and eat it too (but akshually it's avant garde and sooo experimental).

If people want to experiment it's literally up to them, the entire year. Just don't come here if you don't want concrit desu

>>10722576
Are the ones running this event implying we only give negative criticism? Besides, aren't the ones that created this decora kids? They don't wear lolita, so what makes them think it's ok to do this?

I'd love to participate and dress as horrifically ita as possible (cat ears, Amazon lace monster, fingerless gloves, animu white eyeshadow), but I'm worried my followers that don't know English wouldn't know it's a joke.

>>10722547
That's every day in the western comm

>>10722547
This is quite literally every fucking day in the west.

Why set aside a day to be extra cringy to the public? And of course the itas who aren’t self aware are so excited for this…..

>>10722567
Non lolitas don't follow the rules anyway, kek. Why do they need a special day to be itas when it's every damn day for them.

Sounds like another way to discourage people from experimenting by reinforcing the idea that anything different is ita and should be reserved for one special day of the year.

>>10722620
Accurate.

>>10722585
People won't know, unless they exclusively know who you are and you're large into the community. I've seen people get posted regardless of jokes, plenty of times as well. Some people just also have no sense of humor.

I'd participate but I'm not well known enough for people to know it's a joke

>>10722635
Yeah but if you post as a joke they’ll probably get assblasted you used it as an ita dress up day rather than qUiRkY eXpErImEnTaL cOoRdInAtEs

>>10722547

>>10722653
such bullshit, I hope we run out anyone doing experimental coords instead. I know I'll be posting any nutjob that thinks it's a good day to experiment, rather than do an actual classic ita coord from the early 2000's. sorry guys. but you're not experimenting on my watch. not from some dumb AF "decora" group.

>always the le randum quirky decora shitters
>>10722567
>>10722576
What "progressive experimentation"? And what oppressive rules I wonder? People are allowed to experiment already. Must be the rules of wearing a petticoat, not looking unwashed, not wearing fetish stuff and so on and so forth?

>>10722634
This, honestly. No one wants to call themselves ita unless they're already some unhinged lolcow

>>10722653
Kek, just play dumb. "Oh, I thought we were supposed to dress ita..."

>>10722576
>>10722577
>>10722581
I wonder what gave Hard Decora the balls to do this?
They don’t even sell lolita stuff, and they’re focused on decora and “kidcore” shit right? What authority do they possess to think they can even pull this off?

>>10722727
It's even in their username wtf. It's Hard Decora, not Hard Lolita. The other gender special looks like a normie.

>>10722727
Honestly going to their website, they don't even do decora right. It's fully Westernized Etsy trash. I really think we should just ignore these dumb ass people trying to invade our community and just tell people off for not adhering to Lolita rules and posting in Lolita spaces. If it's every Saturday in March then we'll be seeing a bunch of shitters posting in our spaces just for their own clout, if they tag things as Lolita then we should just tell them off

Finally some fresh content for the ita thread, looking forward to it

>>10722634
This, their post is so offensive. If you're good at coording there's nothing wrong with a cat ear accessory or non lolita specific shoes. Just buy nice ones that work ok with your coords. Experimentation is not ita, it's only ita when it looks bad

I'm confused. Neither "Hard Decora" nor the TIF they're partnering with have anything to do with lolita. Why exactly are they doing this?

>>10723033
Clout and expanded reach into a community they can't tap, because they own no lolita. I have all my money on people just trying to clutter lolita with their etsy trash.

Please tell me why these nobodies that aren't in lolita are trying to host anything for lolita? Coord advice for ita wear? Seriously?

This is awful and 100% clout/reach chasing. What advice can they offer? Seriously. Who cares what they think, they aren't even part of this community

>>10723489
I'm actually a little pissed, and I know it's dumb to be.....

>>10723584
I thought it would have been cool to have 1 quirky dumb day, but this is every saturday, and it's not even by a lolita group so it actually makes me really uncomfortable with the idea because it's actual itas trying to fuck up our fashion

>>10723588
>Every FIRST Saturday of March

They're just trying to make it an annual floating holiday like the ILDs, not make it every single Saturday for a month.

>>10723588
That’s what April fool’s is for

Isn’t this hosted by the same person that scammed a ton of people??
I remember a group was shut down on Facebook that they admined because they were being shady and taking months to ship orders.

>>10723588
When it said international ita day I thought it would be like our twice a year ILD.

But WEEKLY?! By folks who don't even wear what could pass as lolita???
Idk what's worse, this or seeing actual lolitas gas this up

>>10723605
you're thinking of Ota-Q/callie, different perso

>>10723617
>seeing actual lolitas gas this up
Oh God, who is taking this seriously?

>>10723643
The itas in my comm are planning a meet for this. They don’t even realize the irony.

>>10722547
I think this shit must've spawned out of the absolute bullshit that's been all over the lolita subreddit this last week. Post these morons without calling out what's ita, let them choke on their fucking trash and die in their shithole ignorance.

>>10723681
Please post pics when they do

KEK This they/them set up a meet for ita day. Actual ita.

>>10723643
Several in my comm.
I'm embarrassed of these girls

>>10723643

No one you actually need to pay any mind tbqh, but I'm looking forward to it. Basically if you think that someone is it's enough to gas it up they probably are. It's a trap for those snowflakes.

I hope someone out's the contents of an itabag on a solid dress. It would be kind of funny to see someone be the ita bag.

>>10723739
Genuinely impressed by how there aren't any matching elements at all in this dogshit coord. Maybe this dumb event is a ploy to do the "jokes on you I was pretending to be retarded" of lolita fashion.

>>10723795
This wasn't even for the event. Just goes to show what kind of person is excited for it

>>10722653
Isn't dressing ita on purpose still on theme though? It's called international ita day. If they just want experimentation it should be called international experimentation day. I wanna wear an ita coord because it sounds fun, goofy, light-hearted, and i just really don't care what people think...

why don't people just play dress up any day? why dedicate an event to it.

>>10723824
Ok ita. Have fun then. No one's stopping you.....

>>10723824
>i just really don't care what people think...
Outlines exactly what the problem is here. You're already an ita and you're not part of the lolita community, you've always had that option. No one is going to adopt you into the lolita community for dressing like an ita even on this made up bullshit day, that will not become an official thing.

So what if people post you to the ita thread, if you don't actually care to wear the fashion right? You don't need a fucking day for it, moron.

>>10722547
Everyday is international ita day

This generation is so sensitive. I thought we were bad with the whole "everyone gets a trophy" and "No labels" attitude but it just keeps getting worse. Having an ita day for laughs is fine but they're making this out to be something in retaliation to rules of the fashion like they got their feelings hurt. At least the ita thread will have some good content.

I miss the ita dress-up threads, those had some pretty hilarious outfits and captions.

there were some pretty funny purposefully ita coords posted on april fools day, don't know why that needs to become a monthly event though

>>10724038
>>10724048
You all take things very seriously. Of course no one /needs/ a day to dress abnormally bad, but it's fun to do things in a group. I could wear a costume every day, or i could wait for Halloween and do it with friends.

>>10724038
>>10724048
Nayrt but kek who shat in your cereal? Anon is saying they want to make fun of the day and you're losing your mind with anger over it?

>>10724143
If they don't care what people think, then why aren't they using every day to wear cat ears and demonias. Just a bit of irony, there. Likely anon was a larper from another scene to begin with.

>>10722547
>Hard Decora is always ita
kekkkkk

>>10724123
>>10724143
Again, no one cares what you badly dressed sensitive little shits do. Go have fun, just don’t be surprised when everyone says how ugly you look.

>>10723743
Which comm are you in, anon?
Don't be shy.

>>10724160
Using every day? What are you talking about? The anon wanted to dress up like an ita for one day to have a laugh at the expense of this gay ass idea.

>>10724384
… That's the point. It's a joke. Like the ita dressup threads we used to have. Do you not understand jokes? Do you also look at an actor wearing a fat suit and make fun of the actor themselves for being fat? (Pssst...they're not actually fat, they're dressing that way for a joke.)

>>10724384
>>10724160
I have a feeling these faggots are the organizers trying to prevent people from turning their idea into a joke. There's no other good reason why humiliating them like this would get someone this enraged.

>>10724403
I don’t see how fulfilling your humiliation kink through this ita day is joke worthy but ok.

>kek

>>10724409
Like I’d ever be associated with such an embarrassing event lmfao
But nice guess

didn't we have an ita dress up thread a few times on here years ago? imagining wanting to do that on regular social media.

Huh, i guess image is really important to people these days. I do wish this was organized by someone else, but it still seems fun. I'm pretty surprised people are so insecure they can't fathom being photographed in a silly outfit, though. Is it that their whole identities teeter haphazardly on their image, with no other stable relationships or personality to lean on? Sad

>>10724462
I guess since presenting well and looking like you’ve bathed is foreign to itas like you, it’s not surprising itas think this is a fun idea.
Sadder.

>>10724508
I don't get it, are you implying people who are hygienic and well dressed 99% of the time can't also want to have a fun day where they dress silly? Did you never have "crazy outfit day" at school growing up?

>>10724454
It's not humiliating because anyone with two brain cells to rub together would see that it was a joke making fun of other people: itas. Just like wearing the fat suit would be making fun of fat people, not yourself.

>>10724509
NAYRT, but this is fucking stupid. this event is just a thinly veiled attempt to be free from criticism, which obviously isn't going to work. If you can dress yourself well, there is no need to have a whole day where you butcher the fashion together while hoping for immunity from concrit. People do it all the time, and we don't need a whole day for it.

>>10724520
we've had ita dress up threads here...

>>10724520
Lmao

>>10724523
This event isn't an ita dressup day. Try to keep up.

>>10724520
it's not even a whole day, that's what gets me. they are trying to really do it every saturday in March, so they are just trying to be free to butcher the fashion in general.

>>10724604
No, it's the first Saturday of March. They're not doing it every Saturday. This has already been addressed upthread

>>10724604
Learn to read retard

>>10724610
>>10724605
salty this isn't well received, you ita retard? leave your etsy garbage shit out of our fashion

>>10724611
>our fashion
Nta and i think non lolitas trying to organize a lolita event is weird but it's always noobs and lolitas at heart who want to seem like they have authority that phrase shit this way

>>10724611
Cry harder

>>10724670
>>10724654
says the lolita at heart. we're still going to post you to the ita thread. ESP if you have no brand bb

>>10724673
Why do you think the people posting have no brand? It's not that hard to own and wear brand. Are you projecting?

>>10724611
ayrt, i think the event is a retarded idea but repeatedly complaining about misinformation is just stupid

>>10724673
Not even the same person. As >>10724675 said owning brand is not a difficult task nor does it make anyone not ita. Defensive annoying whiners like you are never people who actually wear lolita.

>>10724509
Just say you want a day where you can look like trash and say “no concrit it was a joke UwU” and go…..

Again: it’s fine if you want to embarrass yourself, just don’t cry when you end up here

I think half the people in this thread think this event is intended to be some sort of "ita dress up joke day", while the other half know what it's actually meant to be. The two sides are arguing as if they're talking about the same thing.

>>10724683
No one will cry, but it's kind of you to be so concerned

>>10724685
Honestly i think people are moreso reappropriating it, because the idea of an actual ita dress up day sounds fun. Of course, it makes no sense since this day was already made. But maybe someone should start an actual ita dress up day?

>>10724694
That's just April fool's

>>10722547
ITA people are the most absurd and insane people ive ever met

>>10726078
Is there a reason why you spam reply threads?

>>10726080
They really piss me off. They just bump threads with no consideration for their value, and often with nothing but a shitpost in response too.
You better bump the mori, BST and Classic thread too, now that you've pushed them near the bottom by promoting garbage.

Who's participating in this? I might. It's basically having two April Fool's days instead of one.

>>10728299
I'm not participating but I'm curious to see what everyone comes up with

I like the concept of having a national ita day but everyone's perceptions of what's ita and what's not ita are so different, I'm not sure if we really need a day like this when we can just wear whatever the fuck we want EVERY day, like why bother about what other people think? All of us look like clowns to the general public regardless.

>>10728299
I'm doing it, already planned a terrible outfit. It was a lot of fun. It's good for a laugh!

i miss our ita rp threads

>>10728299
participation is acknowledging mental illness. just sit back and let the itas embarrass themselves publicly so we never have another “ita holiday” next year

Can’t wait for nonnies to post me in the ita thread that day

>>10729341
Don't you get posted enough, already?

>>10728475
this. if you're someone who likes to experiment a lot, then you will look good any day. i don't know why they think we need an "ita day". it's insulting for two reasons:

1. being experimental doesn't automatically make you an ita if you dress well. no one wants to be associated with that.
2. we're adults who already dress however we want. we don't need a speshul themed day

1 week away anons

>>10735219

>>10735220

>>10735220
This is actually cute. I doubt most of the other 'experimental' coords in that tag will look this nice.

>>10735221

>>10735221
>>10735223
So basically just going to be self hating fat women pretending to be men in drag, and unkempt looking bitches, gotcha

>>10735221
>>10735223
it's not like 60% of the western lolita community dresses like this on a regular basis

>>10735223
>Comfort
This is just what half the comm uses as an excuse to wear ugly ass shoes, coats, messy hair, no makeup, etc.

>>10735221
Leave it to actual itas and LARPers to think that fishnets don't have their place in lolita

>>10735221
drag was a mistake

>>10735222
it gives me the vibe this person traditionally is just so afraid of being ita and so self conscious that they made this day and posted themselves just to dip their toes in the water. it's obviously fishing for compliments to post that photo.

This whole thing just looks like clout chasing for specific people that they think deserve the pedestal

>>10735231
yep. not sure what this day is for. the photos are almost publicly shaming the people who look exactly like that ironically

do they realize they have their name attached to their drawings? lol

>>10735235
>the photos are almost publicly shaming the people who look exactly like that ironically

That's exactly what I was thinking, like they're literally calling all those people ita. Probably shouldn't have posted those "examples"

>>10735222
>actually cute
Did you fall and hit your head?
This is radioactive waste. I would be embarrassed just being seen standing next to this nightmare coord.

They probably shouldn't have posted those example drawings because they call out natural itas who dress like that on a regular and aren't aware that they're being ita. It's funny how the day is supposed to be all about fun, self-expression and spreading positivity yet they're out here indirectly telling people that their style kinda sucks and is considered ita kek

>>10735219
>>10735220
This is who y'all are willing to embarrass yourselves for?

>>10735240
I think it's cute. You don't. That's fine.

>>10735259
having no taste isn't fine.

>>10735221
>>10735223
this art is so bad lol

>>10735233
>>10735219
trannies (and gay men in general) were a mistake this community should be women only idgaf about mana or novala men do not belong here

>>10735242
Maybe this was their plan from the beginning, they wanted to call out the itas but didn't want to look bad so they needed an excuse

>>10735221
>>10735223
Oh for FUCKS SAKE. And all this coming from two people who don't even wear lolita.

>Drag makeup

I don't know how these SJWs don't realize this is peak cultural appropriation. Taking a Japanese fashion and twisting it however you feel like with Western concepts, instead of trying to stay true to the fashion as laid out by Japanese people. Disrespectful.

>This coord idea is more focused on comfort than visuals

Then here's an idea.....just don't wear lolita if you need to be so comfortable that you're incapable of putting in effort. What a concept! If you can't take even one minute out of your life to slap on eyeliner and blush, then why would you even want to go through the trouble of wearing lolita? Just put on jeans.
Also, pettis are not required for every single lolita coord, especially old school. Plenty of people wear hawase doll and other oldschool Baby without a petti and look perfectly fine. If the people running this event weren't clueless LARPers, then they would know this.

>>10735220
I have a mind of my own and i actually find this cute. It's one of those co-ords that shouldn't work, but it does.

>>10735219
looks so ~*kawaii*~ in lolita while sporting his his pedo-inspired glasses and 'stache

>>10735263
You'll get over it eventually

>>10735220
why is she wearing a fucking pirate hat when nothing in the coord is sailor-themed. it just looks stupid and jarring. it's trying to mishmash classic and sweet and doing it extremely poorly.

>>10735294
you won't though. shit taste is terminal.

>>10735291
do you realize that lolita coords have to *thematically* match? Just matching in color looks retarded if you're wearing a pirate hat with a sweets-themed dress. you must be ita

>>10735287
>If you can't take even one minute out of your life to slap on eyeliner and blush, then why would you even want to go through the trouble of wearing lolita
I don't wear makeup in lolita lol. Not because I'm too lazy, I just don't like how it feels, and I tend to get irritation from eyeshadow. I'll wear it for OTT looks, but I don't think makeup is required in lolita unless you've got acne.

>>10735234
>>10735291
Same fag, but you are probably right, even as somebody who likes the co-ord.

>>10735221
>>10735222
I don't understand why these people are so desperate to wear lolita or even gain the approval of people who will never like the way they dress or look no matter what they do. It's the fucking internet, you can't make us shut up or like you. Either stop fucking posting or leave us alone.

>>10735298
It's probably just her samefagging.

>>10735298
I understand that, but i just think it's a nit-pick.

>>10735305
Which part looks good?

>>10735305
no, wearing a giant pirate hat with a sweets themed coord is not a "nitpick", it is a glaringly obvious inconsistency.

saying those shoes are the wrong color would be a nitpick

>>10735300
>I don't think makeup is required in lolita unless you've got acne
it's not 100% required for old school but you will look stupid wearing an OTT sweet coord with no makeup. and simple things like eyeliner and blush aren't as heavy and irritating as foundation or eyeshadow.

>>10735277
>implying trannies are gay men
Most troons/sissies are into women, they're often straight men larping as lesbians but they prey on gay and straight women alike, which only further supports your point though. This community really should be women only.

>>10735263
Ayrt, I still think it's cute and you won't change my mind. I honestly hate a lot of clolita but this coord is cute to me. Be mad if you want I guess.

>>10735287
>I don't know how these SJWs don't realize this is peak cultural appropriation. Taking a Japanese fashion and twisting it however you feel like with Western concepts, instead of trying to stay true to the fashion as laid out by Japanese people. Disrespectful.

I get that you're trying to pull a "by their logic" thing here but the Japanese literally DO NOT GIVE A FUCK lol. Like Japan sees westerners being interested in Japan as a win and they value the soft power aspect of their culture being popular internationally.

Just like Japanese nationals don't care about whites wearing kimono, they don't care about westerners in j-fashion.

>>10735296
>pirate hat
>sailor-themed

confirmed dumbass for confusing and equating pirate and sailor themes

>>10735302
Kek imagine thinking someone who likes something has to be selfposting and samefagging. You're telling on yourself anon

>>10735320
oh fuck off with the semantics, you know what i mean. "nautical" themed

>>10735319
what they frequently say is that japanese people don't know any better. it's japanese-americans who have experience with the racism and feel the negative effects of it because they live here.

and im sure japanese lolitas do care about drag makeup in lolita

>>10735324
>im sure japanese lolitas do care about drag makeup in lolita

I'm sure they think it's ugly but I don't think it's them being offended or feeling their culture is disrespected, they just have good taste in makeup.

>>10735321
nayrt but she's "telling on herself" for what, exactly? this makes no sense and you sound like a zoomer

>>10735327
If they really think anyone liking something HAS to be someone wking themselves, they're probably the type to do that same thing with their own coords and thinks no one else could ever have anyone genuinely like their coords either.

>>10735330
what a reach. so if you call out a sissy does that make you a sissy too? gtfo here with that dumbass logic

>>10735326
if i were one of them, id be offended. some westerner wearing hideous drag and calling it "lolita"? fuck no, that is not the style and stop calling it that

>>10735334
Not any more of a reach than claiming anyone who likes the girl's outfit must be her.

Calling out an obvious sissy that you can see with your eyes is different than accusing anyone who disagrees with you on anon of being a selfposter.

>>10735336
Realistically drag makeup in lolita looks just as stupid as normal lolita to average non-alt fashion Japanese people.

>>10735330
so just a fancier way of saying "no u", got it

>>10735339
no it doesn't. drag makeup looks like clown makeup. lolita looks doll-like. also no one cares what normies think so thats irrelevant

>>10735301

>>10735326
you do realize "ita" came from the japanese community, right? ultimately someone trying to make this into a positive thing is like spitting in the japanese community's face

>>10735339
alt-fashion =/= all alt fashion. the makeup that trends on tiktok is completely NOT good for lolita and is horribly ita. Like, are you really trying to bring in the sharpie faced zoomers?

>>10735321
imagine liking that coord unironically

>>10735351
>makeup that trends on tiktok is completely NOT good
fify kek

>>10735310
Yeah, which is why I said I will wear it for OTT. I wear classic, so it's really not required unless you're ugly or have acne. A lot of classic lolitas wear very minimal makeup styles anyway.

>>10735367
Imagine caring so much that someone does.

>>10735383
Beg to differ. My guess is your face just doesn't suit makeup

>>10735448
I mean, probably. I was just pointing out that not wearing makeup =/= being lazy with your coord, depending on your style.

>>10735715
It is being lazy. It's obvious when you're not wearing a speck of makeup and it looks awful. Throw on a tinted lip gloss and mascara at the very least.

>>10736323
Stay made you're ugly I guess?

>>10736372
"Being pretty" doesn't magically turn your lips glossy and make your eyes lined, retard

>>10736372
Enjoy looking like a haggard troll I guess.

>>10736323
Make up has some of you gripped real hard KEK

>>10722547
Lor leads this. Her entire fan base lives this. How will this be identified as separated from any other day in the West?

>>10722547
The biggest troll event to hit the lolita commy. It's bait. Jfc Decora's attack on lolita's.

>>10736396
That's a good point actually, haven't considered that the decora community could be setting this shit up on purpose.

>>10736420
They're not evil geniuses anon, no one's doing a jfashion false flag operation. Someone already said it upthread but it seems more like there are sensitive decora/fairy kei wearers who thought this was a good idea because they wanted to wear lolita in an experimental way while trying to shield themselves from critique so to escape that they decided to call themselves ita on purpose from the jump instead of just...not calling their coord lolita which would have solved the problem.

Dumb? Yes. A secret attempt to destabilize the lolita community and our hashtags? Probably not.

>>10736490
they're also just copying our old meme threads

>>10736490
The fairy kei comm doesn’t claim him. Decora comm is a massive disaster so they’re probably thrilled there

>>10735292
She. She is a fake boy

>>10736827
If you're taking enough T to grow facial hair I feel like you're past fakeboi status

>"how about we just have a single day where you can break the rules and have a little fun? :)"
Cue lolitas kicking and screaming

>>10736838
If it were an experimenting day run by lolitas it would be different, but neither host wears lolita in even a passable manner. Half the thing they’re claiming to be ita aren’t even ita.

>>10735300
Lately I’ve been having issues where any kind of eye makeup makes my eyes start watering to the point I look like I’m crying. It’s a real shame because I like wearing makeup in lolita…

>>10736323
>>10735448
Why are you fighting so hard to die on this hill?

>>10736927
A lot will still get posted to ita threads anyway

>>10736935
You're replying to 2 different people nonny. Take your schizophrenia meds and get back to bed.

The idea of this is so confusing and bad, if it’s just To be creative you can do that any day. Why go out of your way to be so “creative” you’re probably going to be ita?

The day is almost here

>>10736935
Imagine thinking you don't look like shit to the rest of womankind without makeup while wearing lolita. You're out of touch, autist.

Happy ita day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSgQkLmFRAk

And so it begins

>>10738582
miss tardlet and the literal trash bag ouji coord

>>10738582
Holy shit. How can you be into a hobby enough to constantly make videos and post your coords everywhere, and yet still be this bad??

>>10738582
Some of these don't even look that ita to me compared to the shit posted in the ita threads, they look ita because she's obese kek

>>10738582
Now that I've noticed, is she doing it so that she could promote her brand revival? Just saw an announcement on Lolita Updates about that A.Gato indie brand, and that is the same name of this channel.

Funny that a bunch of sjws, troons and fat positive propagators want to celebrate looking like shit. They all hate making an effort and they think that if they make a 'special day' to be ita that they can further justify looking like crap. Pathetic.

>>10738610
imagine being so lonely you bitch about people having fun with a silly coord challenge online and you waste your Saturday being salty

>>10738653
It'd be one thing if the intent was to dress ita on purpose as a joke, i.e. april fools day coords, but the message behind this event is basically "lolitas are such critical meanies waaahhhh why won't they lick my ass for dressing like a fat ugly drag queen??" hosted by people who don't even wear lolita kek. Yeah no, we don't claim you idiots.

>>10738658
they are having fun. You are not.

There is no argument, you're just upset and they don't know you exist. They will have the entire day to smile and laugh and make new friends while you, remain friendless and posting angrily on 4chan.

>>10738682
Sorry you're so narcissistic and clueless when it comes to dressing yourself that you need a whole event to shield yourself from warranted criticism. What a sad life.

Lmaooo tap on the accounts of everyone that’s posted on the tag so far. even their regular coords are trash bags. It literally is only attracting true itas

There's white knights for this event already? Kek. And we're the ones seething apparently.

>>10738686
yo easy way to source some itas for the ita thread

>>10722547
Not gonna lie the whiteknights and the people seething are all fucking cringe for caring so much about this.

>>10738707
calling you an idiot for getting worked up over a single day isn't white knighting.

It's just calling you an idiot.

>>10738709
I'm not anyone who complained about this event. I even said I thought one of the coords of the organizer was cute. I just think hardcore defending the event or hardcore bashing it are both cringe to do on anon because the reality is the angry people seething over bad or experimental outfits are not going to come around on the matter and it's as dumb to waste time trying to convince them as they are for being so worked up in the first place.

I don't think the event is much different than intentional ita meetups and April Fool's as many have said itt and oldfags have been doing that since forever. If you want to waste your breath arguing with anons who are dumb enough to be irrationally angry over people dressing "bad" on purpose have at it. I'm sure it's nice for people who don't check opinions outside of cgl to see everyone in the community isn't a whiny salty cunt.

>>10738712
you're so tilted, calm down. jesus.

>>10738712
You need to chill sis.

>>10738686
She looks fine anon.

>>10738722
bitch looks like carl wheezer try again

>>10738682
Literally no real lolita thinks this way kek.

>>10738682
This argument, every time. They're only having fun until someone points out how stupid they look. People usually have to be delusional to not care about other's opinions.

alright non passing mtfs in lolita are gross enough, but what's with these ftms trying to look like skeevy pedos on PURPOSE

anyone search the hashtag #international itaday yet? lends credentials to >>10738610

>>10738823
based

>>10738829

>>10738830

>>10738832

>>10738833

>>10738836

>>10738838

>>10738840

End dump, gonna commit over captchas

>>10738829
good lord

>>10738838
>>10738840
>>10738844
I don't hate these

>>10738832
This just looks like any of her normal coords, except it's better because at least she's not wearing clown makeup

>>10738838
I don't see anything wrong here, aside from the farmer's tan
>>10738844
This is just good ero

>>10738832
the description is rather entertaining

>>10738832
lmao the usakumya wearing moitie. I like this one

>>10738832
I hate these hime wigs she's wearing lately, and hate chokers, but the coord is surprisingly cool. I like the weird vibe, finally a creative honey cake coord. Wish she'd try to figure out natural styling with hair and makeup. It takes less effort than her normal looks to do a decent jfash makeup

>>10738844
Is that it? Thanks for the dump. I hate the shoes on this one, otherwise great cord

>>10735221
I thought this was a joke image. It doesn't look real. Just terrible.

>>10738902
>hime wigs
I think it's just her hair

>>10738891
for the country coord, her caption said she was being ita by not wearing socks with her sandals, and I'm like.... that's not a requirement wtf

Giving up self-respect for a little bit of internet ita clout...can't imagine being that low

>>10738836
I unironically like this? The gradient Misty Sky works with the rainbows a bit.

>>10738914
the shoes aren't the ita part - the shape of the cardigan is

>>10738902
she wears wigs, everyone complains.
she wear what seems to be her actual hair, everyone complains.

>>10738934
Yeah cause she has shit taste regardless of what hair she wears

>>10738934
How hard is it to have a hairstyle that’s flattering and doesn’t look like a wig? Literally just choose a color like dark brown, light brown, blonde, auburn, strawberry blonde, and have it applied by a professional. Then ask them to cut a style with bangs to flatter your face shape. The length and style of bangs should be determined for a particular person, there’s no “best” hairstyle for everyone. Some people can pull off hime cuts and weird color but it’s rare

My favorite one of the day

When will fat ppl learn everything they wear is ita?

This one is almost as bad as that troon with the mascara mustache. End of mini dump.

>>10738844
This is some good shit, I love it

>>10738860
well, because it's not actually ita. they are just experimenting with shit that doesn't belong in lolita really.

it makes me sad to see people only experimenting on this day - seriously. means these people are sensitive to criticism

>>10738911
I think she ment wearing socks is a requirement for lolita not for sandals genuis

>>10739002
The reality is that lolita has such a stereotype of being a community full of catty bitches that people fear being called out or shat on for minor deviations from western lolita standards.

>>10738717
>>10738721
Nayrt but they responded calmly to your pissy WKing. Meanwhile you sound desperate to defend these itas, presumably because you're one of them

>>10738722
You blind or just ita?

>>10738832
This looks like shit and I have to assume all you people defending it are just dumb. Moitie and honeycake? The details and themes completely clash. Those socks are blatantly goth and don't match the dress. The rectangle headdress with goth cross lace looks stupid. And what the fuck is with the randomly tossed in cat ears? Brand ita at its worst

>>10738844
The only good one

>>10738899
And anons really think it unironically looks good when she herself considers it a joke. Please get some taste you dumb faggots

>>10739024
People are defending her because she got "canceled" and now she is some martyr in their minds so they want to lick her asshole. Even though before that the majority of people found her ita even when she was actually trying.

>>10738899
This looks like her usual coords though, so jokes on her

>>10739033
thought she looked stupid before she got 'cancelled'

the SJWs would make me like her - you shits don't belong in this fashion or community. more than half of you aren't even lolita

>>10739088
Idk why you're calling me an SJW. You don't have to be one to realize DDZ looks bad and always has. Sorry you dress like her anon.

>>10739095
Nayrt but it's evident you're vendetta posting. Most of us don't like her but can acknowledge her coords are fine, it's her makeup that ruins it.

>>10739117
I didn't even post her. I don't have a vendetta, I just have taste. Idgaf about her "nazi" stuff and whatever else.

It was her makeup AND shoes most of the time. I didn't say the clothes alone were the issue. But if you wear drag makeup and the wrong shoes then yes you're ita no matter how nice the coord would have looked with the right shoes and makeup. Because you didn't wear the right shoes and makeup and those are part of a coord looking good. The coord doesn't stop at the neck and ankles, the whole thing needs to go together, within reason.

Everyone was pretty much in consensus that she looked bad, and could have done better but she actively chose to be a perma ita with her makeup and shoes and admitted she refused to buy more lolita-appropriate shoes because she didn't feel like spending the money when she wanted to use it on other alt fashions. Then some whiny SJWs wanted to cancel her and suddenly a few gulls loved DDZ and began wking her.

>>10739130
>2 people say "i like this one, its not bad"
>1 person says its at least better than the rest of her stuff
>this somehow constitutes gulls white knighting
ok then

>>10739134
Someone literally admitted they liked her because of SJWs hating her anon.

I think her recent old school coord looked fine, the one with no makeup. Not every coord of hers is terrible. But a lot of them were including this intentionally bad (by her own admission) Honey Cake x Moitie blue one for reasons everyone agreed on, yet people are even defending this ita-on-purpose coord.

>>10738830
ngl, I kind of like this. It's not lolita, but it's a cool punk look

>>10722585
we used to have threads like this here a couple years back, I kinda miss them, some gulls were way too good

>>10739141
it just looks like scene

>>10739134
Did you miss the part where she literally admits to making it bad on purpose? The people saying she looks good here are actual fucking retards who probably can't dress for shit

>>10738980
Same. This one gave me a good wholesome chuckle.

>>10739022
i think thats the point. moitie and hc dont go together and cat ears just cause. it even says this in her description 10738899

>>10739227 >>10739022
this >>10738899

>>10738832
Why is this nazi still around I thought she was bullied out of the fashion.

>>10739231
You can't bully someone out of a hobby if they don't give a fuck what anyone else thinks

>>10739231
SJW canceling isnt real.

>>10738833
she shooped her legs in the one she posted to instagram too, I didn't realize how fat she was. Do we know if she's actually mtf? It would explain a lot.

>>10739241
She's definitely some sort of troon. Look at this rainbow pride paraphernalia. I always knew she was mtf kek.

>>10739236
This

>>10739241
Anon, yours is so badly shooped it's not even fun... Fat does not make "peaks" when tied like this, it would make oval buns of meat instead.

>>10739242
rofl @ that albanian flag

>>10739241
more evidence of mtf

>>10739350

>>10739351
>>10739350
>>10739242
She's a heterosexual bio woman, it's just the usual attention-seeking (just like the nazi drama)

>>10739351
What is this red string connect the dots nonsense. This image is like a parody.

>>10739356
It IS a parody, you're being trolled. It's like >>10739352 said.

>>10739352
saying 'bio woman' unironically kek
why not just say shes a woman. using terminology like this gives into troon bullshit. erasure of women. women are women. troons are trans women (if you must so pc to call them a women). troons get the stigmatized label. not women. you are part of the problem.

>>10739008
i know what she meant, and she's wrong

>>10739352
Even if she was originally male, you are just mad because she is passing as female. I'm so sick of cis genders hating on passing trans because they're a threat.

>>10739357
Doubtful it's from her. Anons foam at the mouth when they see her and it derails every thread she's brought up in.

>>10739404
lol when people call an ugly woman a troon they’re not implying you’re passing as a woman. they’re implying you are so ugly that you still look like a man. troons are always so delusional, thinking insults are actually compliments

>>10739404
>I'm so sick of cis genders hating on passing trans because they're a threat.
>threat
Hardly.

>>10739404
>hating on passing trans because they're a threat
they're a a threat to women because most of them are sexist predators who enforce strict gender roles

really seems to me the only people who participated in this day, were already not good at lolita to begin with

>>10739481
as was expected

>>10739453
seems to me like you hate cis men, not trans women, anon.

>>10739907
fun fact: they're the same thing

>>10739910
they're not lol. if you got assaulted by a man then just say that. don't be a cunt to random people you think "look" like men.

>>10739912
>obvious troon cope
nta but no one thinks you're passing. ya'll just reinforce delusion around yourselves by isolating differing opinions. the majority of people think you look dumb, outside of that lil bubble you created for yourself

>>10739915
>no one thinks you're passing

I'm not even trans, I'm cis. But I know some dumb bitches when I see 'em.

>>10739916
anon, we're just tired of old creepy men wearing sheep's clothing to get close to us and minors in a woman focused hobby.

if you don't get that, then you're autistic as fuck and who cares what you think

>>10739924
We have an old trans woman in our group who is creepy as fuck and I hate her. But it isn't enough to make me disparage an entire group of people. That's just stupid af.

>>10739926
https://theysaythisneverhappens.tumblr.com/

>>10739929
...okay? I could show you the same amount of articles featuring black people who have committed crimes. does this mean we disparage all black people now, too?

c'mon, anon, you gotta be better than this. surely you know that in ANY population of people, trans, cis, black, white, Muslim, Christian, there will be bad people, even child predators.

>>10739912
if they have a penis they're a man. entertaining their mentally ill delusions doesn't magically mean they're a woman. especially the disgusting AGPs

>>10739932
imagine thinking impoverished black people are the same as mentally ill fetishists

>>10739932
>seems to me like you hate cis men, not trans women, anon.
You just implied but a few posts ago that any tranny that would pose a threat to women and children is actually a cis man, stop backpedaling and shove that no true scotsman bs up your ass.

>>10739934
I could also produce evidence that rich white men often commit sexual crimes against children, if that would satisfy you. Not all black people are impoverished either. What a shitty take lmao.

>>10739935
no one here is backpedaling, y'all are just paranoid pearl clutchers

>>10739933
this

>>10739932
by proxy you're also mentally ill, you're rejecting reality

>>10739937
the projection is real.

>>10739936
>evidence that rich white men often commit sexual crimes against children
>pearl clutchers
>paranoid
>gaslighting behavior

You're a man, correct? You do realize lolita isn't cheap? Also, unless there are reqs at meets to wear lolita then creeps have a tendency of showing up. I'm always reminded over and over, the people who defend the weird incel creeps we attract are generally larpers.

>>10739936
>that moment when he thinks comparing skin color to a choice to wear women's clothing as a fetish is the right move

>>10739941
I'm not a man lmao. I'm a cisgender woman, I just think all of what is going on here is ridiculous. If you are so scared of the so called troons then why don't you do something about it instead of just taking your stand anonymously on /cgl/? Too scared to get cancelled?

As I stated earlier, we have a creepy trans woman in our comm, but I'm not so narrow minded that it'll make me hate all trans women. Challenging what you think isn't "gaslighting".

>>10739944
>Too scared to get cancelled?
Ah yes. Let's threaten anonymous users over obvious things. I'd love to see you post publicly about your comparison of black minorities to people who wear dresses to get off and how oppressed they are by that choice.

Truthfully, I think you're larping as a woman;- you're not passing, and your deluded bubble of people around you don't change actual reality and science.

>>10739944
>>cisgender woman
nice one. if you were a woman, then you wouldn't need 'cisgender'

>>10739936
>also produce evidence that rich white men often commit sexual crimes against children
no one likes rich white men either. begone disgusting scrotes. all of you. even the ones jacking off to the thought of being a woman.

>>10739946
Who is threatening anyone here? I don't know who you are, nor do I wish you any ill will. I simply asked why you didn't do anything about these so called nefarious troons that are infiltrating our community.
Also I AM black. I see the intersectionality between trans issues and black issues.

You can assume all you'd like. Not sure what you want me to do to "prove" to you that I'm a woman. Like I said, you all are paranoid.

>>10739950
If I said I was a woman, then you'd simply say that I was a "tranny" and pretending to be a woman. I added "cisgender" to avoid any confusion, but I see you're too into your nonsense to even see that.

>>10739958
>why you didn't do anything about these so called nefarious troons that are infiltrating our community
a lot of us do, anon. we call out that behavior, we don't associate with them, and we donate to orgs that support women against them. i personally have peaked several people who were pressured into that nonsense.

>Also I AM black. I see the intersectionality between trans issues and black issues.
kek sure you are. i'm sure you're also mentally ill and disabled, just like these poor poor men in dresses who like to dominate womens' sports and consider being a woman a humiliation fetish.

>>10739960
I'm getting the same vibe you are from this anon. They are doing backflips for virtue points

>>10739960
>I’m not black

Jeeze take your meds. You really think that anyone who doesn’t agree with you isn’t who they say they are?

>>10739958
Black women standing up for troons will never not be sad to me when so many of them use you girls as proof in their racist minds that mtfs are the same as biological women kek.

terfs need help

>>10739966
>terfs need help being comfortable in their own bodies
>not the troons literally mutilating their bodies and threatening suicide if they can't
kek sure

>>10739967
y’all need help minding your business instead of obsessing online about whether or not someone is trans or not.

I don’t care if you are comfortable in your bodies or not.

>>10739969
troons need help minding their own business instead of forcing their agp fetish on unconsenting women and girls xx

>>10739970
*shrug* no one is forcing anything on anyone.

like I said above, if you got raped, just say that and stop being a cunt.

Troons are just groomers, especially in lolita communities. I'd rather protect girls from pedos in dresses than not hurt gross men feefees.

>>10739973
are there any actual examples of harm done in the lolita community by trans women?

>>10739972
they literally are by exposing unconsenting parties to their kink in public though? lol guess by your logic we should start letting diaperfags shit their pants at lolita meets too.
>if you got raped, just say that and stop being a cunt.
imagine any actual woman saying something so blatantly male. way to out yourself though, no wonder you're obsessively caping itt.

>>10739976
>they think being trans is the same thing as being a sissy

it’s literally not the same thing, but okay.

again, I’m a woman, born and raised. I know this must come as a shock to you all, but other people are allowed to have differing opinions from you AND they’re allowed to voice them. Just because someone doesn’t agree with you doesn’t make them a man.

Most of the terfs I have talked to are rape victims, that’s all I mean.

>>10739972
>*shrug* no one is forcing anything on anyone.
tell that to the countless AGPs that have forced their fetish on our community
>>10739975
holy shit this is the most newfag LARPer thing i have ever read. stop wasting our time
>>10739979
to AGPs, yes it is hon

>>10739975
Way to reveal that you don't actually wear lolita

>>10739979
>it’s literally not the same thing, but okay.
Just what the fuck do you think ~~gender euphoria~~ is kek. Hint: it's sexual gratification.

>>10739981
>ask for legitimate examples of trans people hurting lolitas
>wahhh you’re a newfag!!!

Come back with an actual example. Until then, how about shutting the fuck up? The only reason you’re saying this is because you can’t think of a single one.

Again, why don’t you do something besides raging on 4chan if people are “forcing their fetish on our community”? If this is something you care about, shouldn’t you like, create a cis only lolita space or something? Ban them from meets? Call the cops when they show up if it’s a private meet on private property at someone’s house?

I think that you’re all too afraid of any social consequences to stand up for what you (sadly) actually believe in. In other words, you’re all weak cowards.

>>10739985
>Come back with an actual example. Until then, how about shutting the fuck up?
newfag, the reason you're being laughed at is because there are literally countless obvious examples. for example, a troon threatened to kill a woman in a comm and then stalked the comm events for ages after being banned. and that's just one single example. you are a blatant newfag if you are this clueless

>I think that you’re all too afraid of any social consequences to stand up for what you (sadly) actually believe in.
what is this delusional cope? this isn't even true and as mentioned before, many of us literally do these things IRL. we do create cis only lolita spaces. we also have private meets with no troons invited. we ostracize and avoid talking to troons. it's not that hard.

>>10739987
um anon... those examples weren't REAL trannies they were just cis men pretending to be trans uwu

>>10739987
Wasn’t M a sissy and not claiming to be trans? Correct me if I’m wrong.

I’m far from new, I was in the SF comm when this went down.

I’m not coping, those are just my thoughts on you all. I have no skin in the game, I just think people like you have big stank coochie energy.

I’m glad you have exclusive meets… no one wants to be around a bunch of delusional girls trying to create an echo chamber anyways.

I’m a mod in my comm and I effectively banned a terf from the community for being a huge bitch. A fun time was had by all, besides the terf I guess.

>>10739987
not to mention the countless instances of sexually perverse shit that complete stranger troons have tried to DM me.
anyone who's a lolita has experienced this.

there is a difference between being a sissy and being trans.

>>10739992
so all trans people are represented by the weirdos in your inbox, huh? got it, thanks!

>>10739990
>Wasn’t M a sissy and not claiming to be trans?
Are you stupid? Why do you think his name is what it is?

>>10739993
>there is a difference between being a sissy and being trans.
explain the difference then

>>10739993
oh i see. so troons like M aren't "real trans" because they're AGPs...just because you say they aren't. even though they, and the other people in the trans community, say they are.

>>10739995
afaik ageplayers are basically misogynists that get off on the embarrassment that comes with being a “little girl”. This is inherently a misogynistic way of thinking, because there’s literally nothing wrong with being a little girl, unless you’re a grown fucking man, of course. Don’t get me wrong, I hate ageplayers just as much as the next lolita.


Trans people just want to be the gender that they identify as. They don’t get any kind of sexual gratification from it, it isn’t a kink, they literally just want to be left alone and wear what they want to wear. No being a “little girl” involved.

That’s how I understand it.
>>10739997
I said to correct me if I’m wrong, didn’t I? I’m not trying to sea lion or gaslight or anything here, despite accusations. M very well could have considered themselves to be trans and was a predator.

You seem to be glossing over the part where I mentioned that any percentage of any population could be a predator. Teachers, clergy, lolitas, etc.

I don’t get the weird obsession with rooting out trans people without doing anything meaningful about it. Like I said, weak cowards.

>>10739998
>They don’t get any kind of sexual gratification from it, it isn’t a kink
wrong. both M and even Contrapoints have admitted this. AGPs openly exist and the trans community sees it as normal.

>You seem to be glossing over the part where I mentioned that any percentage of any population could be a predator. Teachers, clergy, lolitas, etc.
funny how 90% of the troons i've experienced in this fashion are sexual degens. but no, totally a coincidence, right??

>I don’t get the weird obsession with rooting out trans people without doing anything meaningful about it.
clearly we are. just read all the sad trannies on here that whine left and right about being buwwied. or the countless screencaps of them getting booted from groups for even *slightly* off behavior.

also troons reinforce gender stereotypes, this is nothing new

>>10739975
Tons. Personally I've been to meets where a "trans woman" (aka a very non-passing man who used she/her) was talking about sex shit and fetishes with some of the underage comm members. It was very creepy, but if you try to say your uncomfortable you get called phobe.

>>10740003
don't you know? hiding from angry male violence makes you a "weak coward" anon! stop being such a weak coward and let these hulking men punch you, just like M wants!

>>10739993
>so all trans people are represented by the weirdos in your inbox, huh?
yes, they are literally all men, both trans and not. a woman or TIF has never done it to me. predators are scrotes, and TIMs are no exception.

>>10739985
anon, everyone can clearly see you're not from the actual lolita community with no idea of the harm that men have done to our community. it's gone on for a very long time and the need to have undying unwavering acceptance of the creeps that we have had to fight to keep out is destroying the capability to have safe public spaces for our community, just because you ~*need to have your opinion in a community that you do not participate in~*

Seriously, fuck off larper. Same with all the others. We don't want you shits in here, at this point, telling us how to protect ourselves against men.

>>10739991
Anon, you've only been in this fashion 1 year and quite literally do not deserve to be a mod in any lolita space with the desire to not protect underaged kids. Just wait until you get shut down for private DMs between a minor and a groomer.