/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10710813
I try to wear a sturdy bra so it isn't as easy to squish my boobs together under my JSK, but I still have this issue anyway.

34 DD/DDD here
Wearing a chest binder knocks me down about 5 cm but is hard to breathe in. I spend an extra $70-90 getting some of my dresses professionally altered if I can find fabric that matches for solid color JSKs. Heavily considering breast reduction not just because of lolita, but just because they're a pain in the ass for everything I wear as I've discovered. I used to dress in t-shirt and jeans but when I got into lolita, I started changing my wardrobe to more feminine styles. To my dismay, unless you're dressing to show off your tits finding button ups, blazers, blouses or anything that isn't a hoodie isn't made for bigger busts. I'm dissapointed that I can't wear most OPs and no salopettes.

>>10710853
we are the same size, i've been considering a reduction too
i was considering trying a minimizer bra, have you tried that as well?

>>10710857
I did and unless I got the wrong type, it didn't do much. I mean it fit great as a regular bra but didn't do much on reducing size sadly.

I wear a US 32J and wear binders. Best case scenario I wear skirts with blouses that have been altered/tailored to fit better, and I am getting a reduction because of worsening pain. I always look frumpy even with a binder so it takes away a lot of the enjoyment of wearing lolita. Sometimes I'll buy men's shirts from AatP and aside from the shoulders they fit a bit better, and corset-back men's shirts tend to look alright too.

>>10710853
you have atleast a g cup. get remeasured.

here to say that fuck people who call us fatties because brand isn't always accommodating to larger chest sizes
they don't have to accommodate for us, that is not my point nor release plus sized shit or whatever the hell

just makes me sad that the community literally automatically assumes we're fat if we mention struggling to fit into burando if and only because of the chest sizing

I take chrysin daily, try to avoid things with estrogen (chicken, not natural beef) or phytoestrogens (almond milk, onions milk). I do like eggs, but they unfortunately also add to the problem. Diet has a lot to do with it for me and American diets are add to women becoming larger.

I lean more into being a pescatarian, but getting my tits to go down is always a struggle. The pandemic caused them to balloon back up to probably F level, but I think I've gotten them back down to C. It took a lot of working out as well, so I'd advise make sure to do cardio and weights. Most under arm, shoulder, and upper back are good for chest but you're going to need to really walk the line because shoulders is going to make OPs fit like shit.

>>10710885
>here to say that fuck people who call us fatties because brand isn't always accommodating to larger chest sizes
>>10710901 here. If you're not doing things to minimize your chest, like working out then yes, you're fat. It's a struggle but it's managable if you're eating right and exercising. Then minimizer bras DO work. Otherwise, you're just going to look like a chonk with your chest smaller than your gut

Metas plus size is perfect. It has too much on the waist for me but it’s pretty easy to cinch it in with the waist ties. What I learned from taking a look at it is that one thing that helps a lot is a longer bodice and longer straps. Haneuli has larger sizes, but I found that it Didn’t really fit because they didn’t increase the bodice length and strap length proportionally. A lot of indie brands also make really good stuff these days and several offer full custom sizing.

Usually I just get things altered, and I have my blouses custom made by various taobao shops. I used to do F+F. I don’t care what anyone says about taobao looking cheap, nothing looks worse than clothes that don’t fit.

Does anyone have experience with the meta plus size blouses ?

>>10710903
I don’t want my boobs smaller, because I don’t have big boobs. They’re just big for lolita fashion.

>>10710907
>Does anyone have experience with the meta plus size blouses
As someone who has bigger boobs at any size but is currently actually fat, their plus size blouses fit well with tons of extra room. I'm short though so even if you're thin and large busted the lengths may bother you if you're taller.

>>10710918
Then you're going to look stupid. The dress silhouettes don't look good with big breasts. Go wear retro fashion then.

>>10710885
Honestly, how many people have (natural) chests that are substantially large while having a slim body everywhere else? Not even trying to be a bitch or an ana-chan but I don’t see it much. Even in the pic posted ITT, their arms and waist clearly have excess fat, though it doesn’t look as severe because the chest makes them appear proportional, at least from that particular angle.

>>10710925
Someone's waist not curing drastically inward doesn't mean excess fat. The arms in the pic seem fine. Everyone isn't an hourglass so some people are just fucking square in the hips and big boobs actually make that look worse since you don't have hips to compensate.

A lot of people have large chests measurement wise for lolita but aren't fat. And a lot are just fat. It really depends. Also I know chest size isn't inherently racial but most thin but still big breasted women I know personally tend to be Asian (rare but not unheard of), Black, and Latina (also less common than black but not impossible to see). I remember as a kid with an ED seeing literal proana ED black girls who couldn't lose enough breast tissue so their ribs are showing clearly without even inhaling but their chests still take up more room than on others.

>>10710928
I find that completely off. I find many thinner black women have very small boobs but still retain more in their butts, whereas it’s the white women that get pancake butt and retain some breasts even when they’re thinner. But obviously we’re both basing this on our anecdotal observations. Personally I am white and I had a 34DD even when I was a size 4. And for someone 5’8” that’s thin, I think I was about 125lbs.

I do also struggle with lolita and as >>10710907 said the biggest problem is that even if it “fits” for the bust in circumference it’s too short because going over the curve of the breasts eats up so much length. To me true boobloaf is not just your boobs being squished down, but it’s when your boobs take up the entire bodice all the way down to the waist line, not just up high where your boobs are “supposed” to be. And as someone else said a lot of these people with bigger breasts tend to be Westerners (I’m assuming because of our hormone-impacting diets and chemicals used in our processing facilities like phthalates) so we’re on average at least 4 inches taller than the Japanese women, adding to the whole problem of your boobs taking up the entire bodice

>>10710925
they exist but I feel like that body type is rarer than just being fat, especially in lolita. You can eat yourself into obesity and find plenty of options made for you but if you just have naturally big boobs nothing will fit right. It's frustrating and I'm just getting all my pieces altered now desu

>>10710813
Yeah, I wear a 30E, though my breasts have a larger fat to breast tissue ratio than most, I think, so they squish down pretty easily. I just wear an unlined bra and only wear dresses with shirring so I can tighten them more around my waist than my chest.

Threads like these make me forever grateful i'm a chestlet. Hang in there gulls

>>10710925
I do. I work out regularly and live an active lifestyle. Large chests (and asses) just run in my family, even my mother who is a retired military vet that still lifts weights at 60 has always had a large breasts. I hate to bring up race but I see this more common in black and Mexican women. I fit everything else in lolita except the chest.

>>10710813
I usually wear two high impact sports bras, or a regular bra under the high impact one. Brands need to really consider either being more size forgiving or add shirring because these bras effing hurt at this point....

>>10710869
Girl wtf does your back hurt? I know your chest wants some choice words with all that tiddy......

>>10710922
What part of “I don’t have big boobs” do you not understand? A 32D is an unremarkable size, but in lolita I do struggle with chest size sometimes.

I'm grateful to know how to sew.

Why dont y'all just get breast reductions

>>10710857
no reductions anon trust me

>>10711011
As someone who plans to get one in the future if further weight loss doesn't suffice, depending on insurance coverage prices range from $5,000-$18,000 if your insurance will even cover it. Since most of us don't have breasts so large they ruin our lives and it's just lolita fashion specific struggles, no one is going to spend thousands they could use on burando to surgically reduce the size of their relatively normal breasts.

Heck even outside of lolita the higher end of that surgery cost range is a down payment on a home or a new car just to fit dresses or blouses more easily. Not worth the risks of surgery to spend that much and all imo. Especially given the fact that if your breasts are just average but big only for lolita, there is unlikely to be pain or other issues you can report to your doctor to increase the chance of insurance covering it as neccesary rather than cosmetic.

My tits aren't huge, but they're about 98 cm, which is just outside of the comfortable range for a significant amount of burando. Things are changing and a lot of brands are making things with more shirring, so I at least have better luck fitting into pieces from the past ~3 years.

For things that I'm just out of the range of, I use a pseudo binder. Can't remember the brand, but it was basically marketed as a safer, more comfortable everyday binder. It's more flattening than a sports bra, but not as much as a full on binder. There's still a bit of a boob bump, which I like

>>10710853
Same here anon. I wear a 32DDD and buying more feminine styles is incredibly difficult. I have immense difficulty finding blouses that fit both my bust and my waist (for context my waist is 67 cm). I stick mostly to old school baby blouses to remedy the problem.

I’ve been wearing this under my lolita lately. I bought it for my wedding to avoid panty/bra lines and realized it minimized my boobs but was super comfortable and gave a nice separated shape. The material is high tech and very thin and breathes. All the sports bras I’ve tried seem to be thick and flatten me but don’t actually reduce the measurements, but I lose about 3cm in this, I think mostly just by being some help a thin material. Similar to a bralette but it gives support which a bralette does not. It’s from Spanx. I’m about 96cm without, 93cm with, so this makes all the world of difference to me in not only which dresses I can fit but how comfortable I am. 96 is near the max for some dresses so being slightly under that means I’m not dying 2 hours into wearing lolita

Underbust 70, bust 92 here.

>how do you combat the accursed boobloaf

Cry about it...

Nah, but I wear a binder if it looks good, but it takes readjusting every so often bc my tits slowly migrate together to create an aggravating uniboob. Bought it for dysmorphia, so that uniboob rustles my jimmies even outside lolita; stg I'm gonna start experimenting with putting shit between them to prevent it OTL

And actually, fitting into more lolita was a contributing factor in my ED a good number of years back, which is mostly under control now. Got down to 88 in the bust, but also had to get down to 89 lbs for that to happen, sooooo yeah, mostly I just cry about it LOL

>>10711029
> I bought it for my wedding to avoid panty/bra lines
So THAT’s how!

I’m around 70 cm waist and 96 cm bust and it’s a fucking struggle. I’ve always had a big chest since middle school and it makes fitting into lolita a pain in the ass. Since I have to size up for a comfortable bust fit I wind up with a lot of my blouses looking frumpy around the shoulders and waist. Right now I’m relying on a minimizer bra but I’m seriously considering getting a reduction since my insurance will help cover it and it’ll make daily life as well as lolita easier.

>>10711011
some people just don't like surgery or are scared of it
others may not have the proper insurance to cover it or they don't cover the medical necessity
i'm gonna get my doctor referral soon probably

>>10711011
Because my chest doesn't bother me besides not fitting into some niche Japanese fashion?

>>10710925
i do (and i’m latina for whoever said it can be a race thing, it definitely is more common in women of color) and it makes wearing lolita difficult for all the reasons listed above. but im getting a reduction! not just to make finding brand pieces that fit easier but because having to find 28H bras (especially for under $100) and even normie clothes that look good for my body type is impossible

>>10710853

Lose weight, senpai. Then you can re think about breast reduction, if needed.

>>10710885

You sound like haes. This is a japanese fashion, of course they wouldn't accomodate big milkers. If a typical workout bra doesn't work, odds are you are fat.

>>10710918

work out bras or tranny binders will work just fine.

>>10711077
You sound like a real treat to know IRL. Yikes. But don't worry, your brain should hopefully mature once you get to be around 25.

please recommend me a minimizer bra or a binder that is comfy for sizes around DD/DDD

it's fine if it's a little hard to breathe just no rib destroying pls

I've always been envious of girls who are completely flat chested... It looks so effortless to go braless and I love the idea of not looking sexualized while wearing tight fitting tops and camisoles and such. Is it possible to get a reduction from 28D to basically nothing?

>>10711090
FtMs can go completely flat so it's definitely possible, but a lot of times getting that significant of a breast reduction can reduce feeling in your nipples
>t. also want to be chestlet

>>10711079
Nta but I understand the anon. This board is full of fucking whining larping newfags to the fashion at this point. Deal with the situation instead of whining about being catered to, idiots.

just work at one of those companies that insures ALL “gender affirming” surgeries, larp as an FtM, and get your surgery for free. it’s the 2020s get with it

>>10711077
>Lose weight, senpai
But I'm not overweight.

>>10711101
I don't think anyone here is asking to be catered to. The thread's topic is how to deal with it and getting tips. Calm down.

>>10711011
I have a horrible fear of dying while under anesthesia, plus my boobs are only 98cm so I don’t even begin to qualify

>>10711133
the post they're replying to said that their point wasn't even begging for brands to release bigger sizes, AYRT just wants to be mean for no reason

>>10711105
Why would I need to larp? Not all of us live in third world countries where surgery costs money.

Just as an FYI for everyone saying "lose weight," that doesn't necessarily work for everyone. Different bodies hold fat in different places, and a lot of women would need to go near anachan levels to see a signifigant enough drop in their bust size.I'm 5'8 tall, and last year I went from near 170 lbs to 135 lbs, where I'm at now. Other parts of my body changed, but my bust only lost 1 cm in that entire process

>>10711079
Okay bye.

>>10711101
This anon gets it. Thanks

>>10711130
If you are the one that posted the photo or with a similar body, re-think.

>>10711236

There is no such a thing as losing fat in exactly one place, I know I’m from /fit/. Boobs are fat, weight =/ a signal you are slim, per se, you can be a skinny fat. You can lift weights, substitute your body fat for muscle progressively so tldr, lose weight, gain muscle. Odds “not overweight” lolitas here are just a bunch of skinny fat hoes.

If this is a thread asking for advice, here is a good one. If not, just go for a tranny binder, as I said earlier. Those are designed for long wear.

>>10711236
Doesn't work for everyone, no, but are we really gonna pretend like the average /cgl/ user isn't a fatass?

>>10711240
If the anon is from /fit/ you guys should probably heed.

I posted some advice to you girls who claim to be big breasted and "not fat." But no one responded to it. Look, I grew up with triple D's until I got into lolita and was able to get down to a B with diet and exercise. I was skinny fat as a teenager and had an ED. ED's don't solve your problem believe it or not.

But if you're fat, then desu you're out of luck and no one is going to cater to you. This is why you're fat, because you're entitled and won't do the work to lose it.

>>10711140
I presume even if you're in a country with good healthcare that cosmetic surgeries that aren't neccesary or reconstructive in some way cost extra. And most of us aren't walking around with literal chest flesh watermelons at a healthy weight, just a bit big for many lolita bust measurements.

>>10711099
True but I was under the impression that a breast reduction was a different procedure than what FtMs get. I mean they always end up looking kind of botched...

>>10711251
If your chest being too big is such an issue with you that it's affecting your life, surgery is covered. Most people in here, like you said, are just bustier than the average Japanese woman. We aren't considering surgery. Anyone who actually would be would have it covered. It's pretty much that simple.

>>10711259
I feel like FTM trans people get more like a complete breast removal like a breast cancer patient. And some reconstruction to form the right size nipple or whatever.

With a reduction you have to make sure both remain fairly even and try your best to maintain nipple sensitivity, shape, etc. But most trans people so dysphoric they feel they need them removed are probably not concerned about that and just want them gone at any cost

>>10711240
>If you are the one that posted the photo or with a similar body, re-think.
The photo is a Google image to show an example of button-up issues with larger busts. If you want to continue to believe that only fat girls have large tits then that's on you dude.

To everyone here considering surgery to reduce their breast size purely for cosmetic reason or to make clothes fit better, please consider the gravity of your actions. If you ever had a major surgery with a long recovery time you’d understand how traumatic for the body this is. Your body reads this as trauma not matter how normalized it is in our society. You will have side effects even if everything goes perfectly such as loss of feeling and reduced circulation due to scar tissue. And there’s a chance for complications such as infections that could require further surgeries and long recovery times and bad-looking results. It’s not a quick fix, it’s major damage to an otherwise healthy body.

I get it, I’m in the big boobs club and finding clothes that fit and flatter is really hard and can lead one to believe that they’re the problem when it’s the clothes that are the problem because clothes are made cheaply in boxy cuts that just don’t flatter big boobs. Its not you looking frumpy, it’s the clothing industry’s race to the bottom and fast fashion that’s the problem. Plus for how much money it would cost in missed work alone you could hire a trainer to follow the advice from /fit/ anon.
Just please think long and hard and exhaust all other options before resorting to major surgery.

>>10711409
No one here who has normal sized boobs outaide of lolita is considering breast reduction surgery. We're all saying the opposite.

>>10711409
Most people itt that want a reduction have said that their breasts are large outside of lolita and they want it for health purposes. The cosmetic and clothing fit benefits are just a positive side effect but not the actual reason

>>10711088
g2b has some comfy options. I’m a DDD and can wear it for around 4-5 hours without discomfort. Just be sure to get the right size

>>10710885
Shut up, fatty.

>>10711427
It's GC2B and I would not recommend them.

They were highly suggested to me at the time I purchased, which also happened to be the time frame their quality went down. The thread on BOTH the binders I own from them snapped after only a couple wears. I was sized directly by them with measurements and photos, and as careful as I could be putting them on; hand washed and air dried.

If you have a large bust in comparison to your underbust, (my diff is just over 8.5") you're gonna have to find a longer tank style binder bc regular ones will hang off and leave the hem of the binder sticking out and very obvious under fabrics that aren't thick. Probably fine for lolita but good luck with a T-shirt. You'll also have the underside of your tits getting fresh air, as again, it just hangs off them at the bottom since it can't adequately bind them.

I HAD a couple of other brand recs after my last purchase from GC2B, but I was so frustrated about the experiences and having to find another binder that I temporarily gave up and no longer have the brand names.

But yeah, would not recommend GC2B.

>>10711430
Get madder, flatty lmao

>>10711367

Are you dense saggy fatty tits chan? You posted a girl with obvious high fat percentage, so don't seethe if feel personally attacked.

If you wanna keep squeezing your fat on binders you are more than welcomed to do so.

This is a high effort but amazing solution to those that want to minimize their breast size, no matter for lolita, back pain or else. Lift fucking weights, go get a healthy fat burner diet and and stop being lazy.

>>10711700
You're assuming a lot from a Google image about button up shirts. I already lift weights regularly as well as taking jogs often since most everything I need is in walking distance from my house and I just like being outside in general. I'm sorry this concept of a woman blows your mind. I'm this poster as well >>10710970

>>10710853
Goddamn! Looking for a good time tonight?

97cm bust, 67cm waist rn and my biggest issue would be unshirred OPs. HEAVILY considering a real minimizer, but binders seem.. too extreme? I'm not sure if it's the right choice. Currently also starting a weight lifting regime, but it'll take time for that to show results.

so many bitter flat anachans in this thread. sorry to hear that you didn't grow like the rest of the girls in middle school

>>10711724
We really need to stop attacking each other on chest size. We get enough shit from scrotes.

>>10711724
not really? why would other jfashion wearers be jealous of people with chests so large they can’t properly fit the clothes they like/have back issues. i feel for the posters ITT, not in a bitchy concern troll way, this is literally a thread about STRUGGLES with having a big chest so of course people are going to suggest ways to reduce size

>inb4 flatty
i have a pair of C’s, though i did have double D’s before i started exercising regularly. gulls are so retarded about this “us vs them” shit. people are offering solutions/suggestions and all you can do is call them jealous? lol

>>10711728
You say that like it’s probably not a scrote shit stirrer

>>10711729
c is flat

>>10711745
You're absolutely right.
>>10711747
Like this one.

>>10711729
>>10711747
>>10711755
I mean, the problem is that just saying "Cs" doesn't mean anything. 30C isn't flat. 42C is flat.

you guys really need to start posting example photos so we can all better understand where you're coming from. no push up bras either go

>>10711781
Pretty sure anon who just says "c is flat" is someone that doesn't understand and just wanted to start shit.

>>10711782
Laziest attempt I've seen today.

>>10711781
Woudn't 42C have a larger cup volume than 30C

>>10711781
What monster has a band size of 42?? Mine is 34 and I already feel wide as fuck.

>>10711788
You haven't seen bigger band sizes when hunting for your own size? All I would find was 42 when looking for 34.

>>10711790
I just can’t imagine how someone with such a huge band size would even look. I thought 34 was large already. That person would have to be either obese, or incredibly unfortunate.

>>10711787
Not exactly. The number is just the band size so if you have a lot of extra fat or barrel chest then it can be bigger than your cup size on some people. I've seen some overweight women with smaller boobs and no ass at all despite being fatter everywhere else. Different people carry their shit differently and the opposite is just as true.
>>10711792
Pic related on both accounts

>>10711795
>pic related
Jesus Christ, I thought I was ugly and overly apple shaped. Thanks for giving me a confidence boost. At least I don’t look like that.

>>10711795
And this is one with small boobs but still overweight.

>>10711797
Yea it's pretty unfortunate because these women would look fine if they cut back on eating and were more active. The main point through this though is breast size isn't always an indicator of how fat someone is. It can be, but shouldn't really be the first thing to jump at.

>>10711787
no. cup sizes all have the same volume across band sizes, the band size is based on underbust. so someone with a 30C and 42C have the same volume but different measurements. the real issue is no one knows what size they wear.

>>10711806
This isn't true at all. Sister sizes mean for every band size down, you go to a cup size for equivalent volume. A 34D is the same cup volume as a 32DD, just on a smaller band. Look up any sister sizing bra chart.

>>10711783
Pretty sure that’s the whole damn convo. What actual adult with boobs doesn’t know that cup sizes are the same?

holy shit @ anons seriously believing that people can't be thin an have big boobs at the same time. open a swimsuit calendar sometime

Who is the current best alterer for lolita?

Bra sizes are such bullshit and really should be only taken for a general estimate. Too many brands and countries have different measurements for cup sizes. Victoria secret says I'm a DDD, Frederick's bras I'm a DD and Walmart tier bras can go either way. Wish I was an A or B cup because y'all got the cute frilly bras with embellishments.

>>10711817
Bruh in Japan I wear 2 sizes larger lol

holy shit @ anons seriously believing that people can't be in shape and have big boobs at the same time. open a swimsuit calendar sometime

>>10711819
Obviously sizing can be different in other countries though.

>>10711821
You’re not wrong but those are 100% implants

>>10711821
they aint even that big

>>10711871
I mean sure, they're not that big objectively speaking. But just looking at them, I can tell they'd be too big for a decent amount of lolita

>>10711873
Not really. Wear a proper bra.

>>10711871
in the context of wearing lolita, they're definitely big

>>10711871
i don't want to spam this thread with bikini girls nonny. if you google "swimsuit calendar" there are hundreds of examples of various sizes, from a little big to huge

>>10711795
this is like what my brain tells my my apple shaped body will look like if I gain the slightest bit of weight

>>10711821
don’t they usually have fake tiddies though? not hating she’s beautiful, i just genuinely can’t tell the difference and wouldn’t be surprised if most of them had implants—something that i think most lolitas wouldn’t have for obvious reasons

>>10711884
I understand what the anon you replied to was getting at, it's just swimsuit models are the quickest and easiest examples to find.

There's Xiao Wei who's image (I will not post here because she was 16 but you can easily Google the news articles) who is thin as a rail but had unfortunately breasts large enough to cover her torso. She's gotten the reduction surgey thankfully.

The human body is wild.
Yes this is a man.
Yes this is his natural body.

>>10711672
>Thinking calling someone flat chested in the lolita comm is an insult
Kek if anon is flat chested at least they can fit in brand without getting it altered or having an ugly ass boob loaf. I'm tired of this shit.

this thread makes me wish women would stop dragging each other down as if scrotes don't do this shit already 24/7

>>10711808
No, sister sizes are bullshit marketing. Most bra tips and tricks are marketing. All bra companies use different formulas to size you in order to tell you whatever they want to get you to buy a bra. Bras are just a product that is designed to make breast shape socially attractive. Unfortunately most clothing is designed to be worn with bras, including lolita. But bras aren't some useful piece of clothing.

>>10711884
some of them do, some of them don't. there are plenty of women who are in shape and have natural big boobs though. hourglass shapes are a thing that exist

>>10711921
Gotta love the patriarchy. They keep us down by pitting us against each other.

>>10711934
You forgot that bras exist to keep your tits in place. Smaller chests can go without but bigger sizes do not want them bouncing all over, shit hurts and uncomfortable. Everything else you said is correct.

>>10711972
Well sports bras are the best for that. Bras with cups are a meme.

>>10711988
Do you mean padding? Cups are important for keeping them from sweating.

>>10711988
Sports bras can be even more uncomfortable if you don't have a lot of fat on your ribcage, also sister sizing isn't just a marketing term. It's a system used by multiple bra companies to help people navigate sizing. Get a grip, bras aren't the devil. Some are, but they're just foundational garments.

>>10712011
>Sports bras can be even more uncomfortable if you don't have a lot of fat on your ribcage
Really? How does that work? I figured the broader band would help to even out the pressure on your ribcage across a larger area, as opposed to a thin band with underwire that presses into your ribs much more sharply?
I could be wrong tho

>>10712030
NTA but sports bras never worked for me. They just push them together with no actual stabilization and cleavage ends up sweaty.

>>10712080
Same. Plus I have very little padding on my ribs and they hurt. I think the problem is that I have a 34 band and it’s all ribs but they assume I’m just a smaller person with fat on my ribs so it squeezes too tight, if that makes sense. They think there’s fat they have to squeeze through. That’s my problem for clothes in general really. If you’re tall or have a large frame, even when clothes are big enough to fit you the clothing companies assume you are someone with a smaller frame, closer to the average height, and that you’re just fat. Which doesn’t work quite right
It’s kind of like how lolita dresses are just made wider and not taller when they try to make a plus size.

>>10712110
I understand completely. Same band size of 34 with no fat on upper torso other than tits, just skin and ribs but shoulders and back are wide as fuck (42cm for shoulder width) so fitting in feminine things lolita or not is a challenge. Honestly if I didn't have these knockers in the way, I'd take advantage of my masculine frame and where ouji or aristocratic fashion meant for men.

>>10712114
Isn't this the dude who wears regency style all of the time? I feel like I saw a video of somebody living that best lifestyle.

>>10710853
Imagine how many men have nutted all over these boobas lol. kinda hot. Nasty skank lolitas with their OF and camming.

>>10712121
I think I saw that title when I saved the image so most likely.

>>10712114
Ayrt, yes, me too! I’d love to just do ouji but my boobs

>>10712114
>shoulders and back are wide as fuck (42cm for shoulder width)
nayrt but GOD same here. i wish i could fit into OPs and brand blouses but even plus sized shit only adds like 1-2cm to the shoulder width

>>10710813
What if I'm a coomer AND a scrote, can I stay?

maybe don’t wear lolita if you arent petite lmfao ur all embarrassing urselves. would be fun to see a larged frame man-shoulders ita in public squeezed into burando though

>>10712121
Yes, his name is Zac Pinsent and he's a gay tailor in London, UK.

>>10712666
>if you arent petite

Friendly reminder that petite as a fashion term just means short.

>>10712666
You say this but actual men with wide shoulders fit in these dresses

>>10712672
Tbh it's not just short, coming from someone who has to buy petite clothing in the US. No brand is universal on sizing, here. Petite is the best you get when you're child size, that or the children's section

>>10712668
it's always gay guys :(

>>10712666
having boobs doesn't mean someone isn't also short/thin. we've been over this

holy tits. i just want everyone here to know i immensely enjoyed reading this thread.

any lolita ig accounts with big boobs? Id love to see how they manage it

>>10712675
To be fair mana has a more feminine build than a lot of women

>>10712736
>t. fatty or tranny cope
the issue most lolitas have is that they’re fat and in denial, not their frame. unless they’re tall, then that’s a different story

Reminder that boob envy is a literal fetish some men have so everytime you gulls fight and bully each other about breast size, you're giving some scrote a boner. Some even pretend to be women to start the argument with others just so they can fap to the arguing.

>>10712777
no1curr

>>10712782
t. scrote cooming to this thread

>>10712678
No, it literally is just short. Petite fashion is made for women 5'3" and under. Tall is for 5'7" and over.

>>10712783
only insane gulls would think like this. imagine how dead this board would be if we gave a shit about incel derailing.

>>10712782
I care. The less cooming, the better.

>>10712794
t. scrote called out now getting defensive.

>>10712795
>>10712799
you guys are insane. stop posting if you're so worried. the only men that come into these threads are fitfags to call us all fat.

>>10712799
>>10712795
Anon, the OP mentions that already. Stop derailing.

>>10712675
Mana modifies the dresses he wears. This was confirmed ages ago by the measurements of iron gate or whatever

Also “broad shoulders” is not at all how I’d describe him. Mana is really small by comparison to even western women.

>>10712800
Now I'm laughing at how obvious you're being. Thanks for proving anon right.
>>10712804
Agreed. Japanese men tend to be smaller in general, it makes sense.

>>10712807
Stop taking bait. I'm glad none of you cunts fit lolita properly more for me.

>>10712788
When someone says they like petite women they mean thin, small breasted, short and waifish. No one is calling an obese 5'0" woman petite besides the fashion companies trying to sell shit to her.

>>10712810
That's what the original anon was talking about. >>10712672

>>10712810
People explicitly mentioned what it means in the sense of fashion, which is clothing designed for short women because thin or otherwise being shorter than average usually means you're proportioned differently. This is lolita, so we care about fashion, we don't care what borderline pedo small dick scrotes who like tiny porn stars want in a woman.

>>10712810
Learn to read, scrote. No one cares about your preferences.

>>10710813
so excited to wear cutsew ops post-breast reduction

>>10712678
> Petite is the best you get when you're child size, that or the children's section

No adult is child sized even if they are short. Even a petite adult woman is gonna have awkward spacing in the bust and waist because children don’t have puberty curves

>>10712814
>>10712815
Yes and they were replying to an anon who clearly was not using the term to denote fashion sizing lol. Everyone knows what a petite woman is and it's not just being short. Lolita fashion is suited towards actual petite women (short, thin, small boobs) because that's what the majority of Japanese women tend to be.

>>10712831
Congrats, I'm sure it'll look great.

>>10712849
>No adult is child sized even if they are short
sorry but my asian frame tends to disagree with this. white people are too big.

>>10712874
Same with the Mexican side of the family. My cousin, mother of two, dresses in child sizes.

>>10712874
Blame the endocrine-disrupting chemicals in our food that US politicians won’t ban, even when most other countries will. Puberty is happening earlier and earlier and breast size has risen, even when corrected for rising weights/obesity

>>10712849
Imagine thinking petite is a made up size, when there's whole ass countries smaller than you. How ignorant are you?

I have large breasts, but I don’t really care. I’m okay with looking worse than smaller girls since I wear lolita for myself and to feel good, not for the opinions of how others think I look. I wouldn’t want to be fat, but that’s mainly because being fat is bad for health and I want to be healthy. And sure, clothes may not always fit because of my boobs, but luckily I know how to sew and can alter anything if I need to.

>>10711670
used to own a gc2b binder and it worked pretty well for me in terms of appearance (67cm underbust, 81cm bust) but the biggest issue is you just can’t breathe properly in them. wearing them long term will fuck with your lung capacity and forget exercising/exerting yourself in them (obviously most of us aren’t working out in lolita but still, if running to catch a bus or something hurts your lungs that’s far from ideal). ive heard they can also flatten your boobs over time/increase sagging which i never experienced, but again i didn’t wear it much anyways. the compression and the type of fabric they used also irritated my skin a bit.

>>10712666
You can be healthy size, small frame/shoulders with big boobs. Some of us just have extremely feminine bodies.

>>10712936
I’m not saying petite is a made up size, I’m saying petite and child sizes aren’t interchangeable, which is why petite sizes exist in the first place

>>10712777
>Reminder that boob envy is a literal fetish some men have
Guilty as charged

>>10710813
Why do you think it's cute to dress up as a child you freaks? This is one step away from dressing in adult diapers in an adult sized playroom made to fulfill your sick diaper filling baby fetish. Borderline pedophiles, burn in hell.

>>10712874
fitting into children's clothes =/= children's clothes are made with you in mind

i can "fit" into children's clothes but since i'm taller than the average 10 year old girl, shirt lengths and sleeves are often too short because I'm over 4ft tall. but i guess have fun bragging about being a legal midget with short arms?

I'm enjoying this thread, and imagining how cute all of you are.
Yes, even the men lusting.

>>10713921
im taking a dump as i read this

>>10713922
I'm sure you're still cute, regardless of how hairy your butt is. You seem earnest and forthright.

>>10711937
Yes it's men's fault that sexual jealousy in women exists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_jealousy

>>10713944
Literally none of this is relevant to the convo. I wish men could read.

>>10713969
No that's wrong. The Romans didn't have concepts of homosexuality as we do today, they had only ideas of submissive and dominant and it was common for a Roman master to be the exclusive penetrative partner of many slaves but it was seen as shameful and below a Roman to receive penetration. Whereas Greeks did not engage at all in penetrative sex and the relationships were more mentor/mentee between an older man and an adolescence. The sexual components were usually mutual masturbation.

Women were actually the biggest factor in the destruction of "platonic homosexuality" in men as women played a huge role in the spread of Christianity up until the Early Modern period as they would convert their husbands and educate them about the sinfulness behind homosexuality, they would also importantly educate their children as Christians. Christianity was widely adopted by women of the antiquity and Medieeval period as it did in fact give women a lot more agency, independence and control over themselves and their families as important and revered matriarchs. Women also crucially learnt important things like reading, writing, measurements, law, culture and history from the Bible and the early teachers of the Church giving them an avenue in ancient and medieval society they would otherwise have been shut out of unless they were exceptionally wealthy.

why do men have to make themselves the center of this topic

>>10710903
Not everyone has chestlet genes anon. Imagine telling someone with a 28 band to lose weight lmao.

Really fed up of you stacies humble bragging about your first world problems.

>>10711011
I don't support cosmetic surgery period unless someone's had like their face ripped open or burnt off.

>>10714045
that's why you're so many steps behind everyone else.

>>10714022
Then get a hobby, idiot

>>10714046
Why? It's completely pointless to damage your body with unneeded cosmetic surgeries and does nothing but put cash in manipulative people's pockets.

>>10714051
this is exactly why. you view them all as the exact same shit. are you also against cosmetic dentistry? that includes things like crowns that are basically necessary. and what about for things that simply cause some discomfort? all cosmetic surgery isn't just implants and jaw shaves. you're just ignorant and knee-jerking.

>>10714055
#rekt

>>10714055
most dentistry procedures are nowhere near the invasiveness of breast reduction, idiot. It's even worse than breast augmentation. You're telling people to go through major surgery because they don't fit some niche jap fashion.
There's no good reason to go through breast reduction surgery unless your size is so abnormal that it causes other types of problems, but you're probably just a salty chestlet. Interestingly, there's a similar thread up from an anon with a big bulge but no one is telling him to chop his cock.

>>10714068
No one cares about dicks around here other than men. But given the shit I've seen on guys with large dicks I feel bad for them because they can never get fully hard and normal women can't have sex with them due to pain.

>>10714068
you seriously believe root canals, which require antibiotics and pain medication isn't invasive?

>>10714099
nta but "invasive" in medical terms literally refers to cutting into tissue. a root canal is not an invasive procedure while gum surgery or dental implants would be. regardless of the semantics, without complications you are over a root canal in a couple of days while a breast reduction's recovery process takes a full week, more typically two, at absolute minimum. you have to make significant adjustments to your normal habits during this process as well. i'm not anti breast reduction, but downplaying the fact that it's surgery via comparison to root canals doesn't do anyone any favors. cosmetic surgery is not risk-free and by comparison most dental procedures are much more standardized and less dangerous.

>>10714103
Anon you should really research some of this stuff before spouting nonsense. Tooth implants would be a better comparison because it can take weeks to heal from implants, and some people choose them in place of dentures/crowns.

>>10714190
Even breast implants are way less harmful and invasive than breast reduction, so dental implants are not a good comparison. Breast implants they are putting a balloon in and inflating it. They can even go through the belly button. Breast reduction involves completely cutting open the breast, removing tissue, even disconnecting the nipples completely and then sewing them back on. Then you have to have drains installed to drain out all the extra fluid annoys that will collect in the breast and have tubes coming out of your body which can easily get infected. Then after a couple weeks you get the tubes out and you’re sewed up more and gave more healing to do. Breast implants can takes a few weeks or a month to recover. Breast reductions take multiple months and are extremely painful. I’ve had a dental implant. It doesn’t compare.
So casually suggesting women get breast reductions to fit clothes made for people with a significantly smaller natural body type is ridiculous. The real answer would be for someone to make lolita that fits busty people, not just shittily made, slap-some-shirring-on-it, mumu-looking “plus-size” garments that are still tube shaped. Bustier lolitas are stuck between normal sizes made for flatter women that are tube shaped and plus sizes that are made for fatter women who are also tube shaped, just a bigger tube. But considering I have to special order bras and clothes in regular fashion from sites like Bravissimo, I doubt it will ever happen in lolita

>>10714197
nta but you are fucking nuts. and also not even correct about anything.

>>10714197
>The real answer would be for someone to make lolita that fits busty
big boobs look like shit in lolita though because they make you look fat. reduction is the best decision i've ever made, i have no back problems and can wear anything i want.

>>10714201
Like what? My mother had a breast reduction and I was there, I had to clean her drains. My roommate got a boob job and they went in through her belly button, her down time was less than a week. They don’t do the anchor scars/incisions for augmentation anymore unless you’re also doing a big breast lift, which is medically considered a reduction because they remove a lot of tissue

>>10714197
>breast implants are way less harmful and invasive than breast reduction
Uh...source? Reduction literally has no long term side effects while most types of implants need removal or maintenance. Also there are many types of breast implants, but you don't have a source so...

>>10714208
why do you keep lying about random shit? go outside. possibly take a walk, kill yourself or something.

>>10714207
They wouldn’t make you look fat if the waist was properly defined and tailored in smaller than the waist I stead of the tube shaped bodices currently made. You need darts and possibly princess Sean’s to define the waist

>>10714211
i fucking hate trannies.

>>10714210

>Breast implants through belly button
https://www.totalcurve.com/info/breast-augmentation-through-belly-button/


>post reduction drains
https://rejuvenusaesthetics.com/are-drains-used-for-breast-reduction-surgery/

>>10714217
you have really serious autism.

>>10714218
>Get proven wrong
>Autism

>>10714222
That's not even me and you didn't provide sources to anything anyone asked.

>>10714099
If you think root canals can be compared to a breast reduction in terms of invasiveness and possible complications/recovery time, you are completely clueless. I am a doctor btw.
Breast reduction requires much stronger pain medication. It is done under general anesthesia, for starters.

>>10714236
well i am god. and none of them are as bad as virgin mary giving birth to jesus as a virgin.

>>10714237
All of this information is easily available on Google, too. So you may as well believe I am a plumber or Virgin Mary, I don't care. What anon >>10714197 said is also mostly correct (although augmentation has different risks and more revision surgeries).

>>10714207
Anon, big boobs don't make you look fat unless you're fat. Not everyone is shaped like a rectangle.

>>10714239
Different anon here with large boobs and have to disagree. It depends on what you wear as loose fitting tops make your shape look wider than it is and your chest jutting out makes it worse. There was a meme on this a while back. (Yes some of these girls are actually fat). But I agree on lolita not making you look fat, it's actually flattering when it fits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGbg00mwKZg

>>10714239
>Anon, big boobs don't make you look fat unless you're fat. Not everyone is shaped like a rectangle.

Accurate. If there is room for the tits to squish down, then they do. No one with big tits is getting away without using a good sports bra in lolita. I have pretty large tits and fight to keep my diet stable so they don't swell, but I don't look like a sausage roll in lolita.

I don't understand why women with big tits feel the need to complain about not fitting in lolita when the rest of society and mainstream fashion praises and caters to them. Petite/non-curvy women would be laughed out of the room for trying to pull off Fashion Nova bodycon dresses for example. Can't they have even one thing to themselves?

>>10714251
yeah fuck off with that bullshit dude. if we are so “praised by society” then tell me why most models are tall skinny small boobed women? why is it so hard for bigger chested women to find bras that are well fitting, and not ugly without spending a lot of money?

literally people here are assuming automatically that if you have big boobs you are a landwhale. what the fuck is this praise you’re spewing about?

not to mention, toxic women will be toxic women. i don’t make fun of other girls for their bodies but that is also how society is, it pits other women against each other

>>10714251
>mainstream fashion praises and caters to them
It really doesn't. It may seem that way, but it only caters to large breasts if you want to dress like a thot for the male gaze. If you want to dress professionally, simple, or feminine you're out of luck with finding things that fit, lolita or not. Same issue with pants if you have an ass that sticks out, you have this annoying gap between you lower back and waistband.
>why most models are tall skinny small boobed women
This is another point. Fashionable clothes are generally made for walking hangers. Try actually shopping at high end stores and you'll be hard pressed to find things that actually fit you.

>>10714251
Main stream society does not cater to women with high waist to chest ratios. Those body con dresses from fashion nova? Pieces of shit spandex. If you actually want nice clothes it’s impossible to find unless you shop at specialty stores or pay to have literally everything tailored, and sometimes it still doesn’t work because not everything can be tailored. Clothes are made for people with a small bust to waist ratio, whether that’s thin or fat.

>>10714251
>Fashion Nova
Oh heavens, no. No thank you.

>>10714251
Even if that were true, I don’t want to wear fugly normie fashion.

>>10714251
If anything, society and mainstream fashion cater to fat women.
Women with superior genes (slim with big boobs) have little to no options.

>>10714273
there are far more fat women than slim women with big boobs so it makes sense

Cowtits here. Bravissimo is one of the few shops I found that actually makes tops that fit properly. It sucks that they don't have many cute items but I bought this top and it's honestly the first button-up that is fitted enough that it shows my natural waist, I can raise my arms up and nothing is tight or pulling. Their sizing actually makes sense unlike most places I just wish they had more options. Just thought I'd share incase anyone was looking for something normie.

>>10714277
and here is their sizing guide which actually factors in waist along with different busts

>>10714279
>tfw wear a size 6-8
>fall under really curvy/super curvy bust

i fucking hate it here

>>10714284
>oh what terrible a world, I have the body that 99% of the population finds the best

>>10714288
NTAYRT but people desire size 2-4s.

>>10714254
>then tell me why most models are tall skinny small boobed women
As if the models picked by gay men reflect what society actually finds attractive lmao. Why don't you tell me why breast implants, BBL, and midsection liposuction are the most popular procedures and "slim thick" is touted as the ideal body type. Are you stuck living in 2001 or something?

>>10714294
You ana-chans aren't 99% of the population. Sorry.

>>10714300
no shit, america is fat as fuck. reading comprehension, anon
most people would choose to be a size 2-4 (or want to date one if scrote) if they could

>>10714298
No one cares what scrotes lust after. This thread is for talking about how hard it is to find clothing, specifically lolita but a lot of it bears on clothing in general. We don’t give a fuck what men like or we wouldn’t be in lolita. Regardless of it’s considered “desirable”, ie caters to the male gaze, when you have a figure that is not the norm it takes special care to get clothes to fit it. Doesn’t apply to you? Cool, fuck off.

>>10714298
>As if the models picked by gay men reflect what society actually finds attractive lmao.

so every single instagram user is a gay man? okay sure jan
where are your sources? because this source says completely different lmao https://www.verywellhealth.com/most-popular-plastic-surgeries-3157239
this source also says the most common by far is liposuction in which you literally said yourself because uh.. you know.. to be slim like the models that are always pushed into our faces?https://www.plasticsurgery.org/news/articles/what-cosmetic-procedures-are-trending-across-the-country

>>10714302
this, i am so tired. the anon your replying to's first post was also quite literally trying to pit women against each other by acting like us sharing our struggles is taking away something from smaller chested women

>>10714301
I'm not American and no, 6 is not fat at all. I'm a 4 and I'd gladly be a 8 if I could have huge boobs.

>>10714307
oh ok wanna trade

>>10712777
>Reminder that boob envy is a literal fetish some men have so everytime you gulls fight and bully each other about breast size, you're giving some scrote a boner.

Correct.

Is there any hope for me? My (US) bra size is a 30F/G. Without my chest, I’d fit into tons more dresses. Should I just layer sports bras? Is there a good bra that flattens you? Because binding makes it impossible for me to breathe

>>10714284
Same here, 8/super curvy. I don't mind it it's just getting things to fit is a pain in the ass.
>>10714316
Taobao, Meta and finding a good tailor that'll alter pieces for you. That's what I've been doing.

lolita with large tits here, why the fuck are there so many fatties thinking they can run with us? no, go lose weight. I can't get my boobs to shrink fully with a diet and exercise.

It's very likely if you do both, you'll lose your tits. So stop fucking complaining and do something. If you're out there looking like a sausage roll and you think dresses should fit on you, then work for it. If you don't, then you don't want it enough.

>>10714349
lost a lot of weight, only went down 1 singular cup been there done that
it ain’t always the answer past a certain size/weight

>>10714349
Lost 50 pounds from 180 to 130. Went from a 36DD to a 34DD. The tiddies can’t be stoppped

>>10714360
You do realize, your cup size actually went down right? Lol... Also if you just started then you need to just meet going. Tit meat is stubborn but you have to just be strict and you'll eventually get lower. It takes time though

>>10710853
Did you post this pic to make us flatties seethe or you just wanted attention from scrotes?

Humblebragging: the thread

>>10714400
Yeah it went down, but barely. I’m already at the low end for health at 5’7” and since so much if that weight is my boobs the rest of me is bony af, I’m not going any lower. Also “tit meat” ew

>>10714349
>have no tits
>get rona weight
>lose rona weight
>have tits
i don't know why my body decided to give it another go but someone help.

>>10714510
They already mentioned upthread it’s a Google image result to demonstrate problem with button up shirts

>>10714510
You can easily reverse image search it, try harder scrote.

>>10714284
Me too anon. Me too.

>>10714301
> most people would choose to be a size 2-4 (or want to date one if scrote) if they could

The average woman in the US is a size 16-18, do you think they’re all femcels because men only want tiny size 2s?

Pro-tip: Stop wearing wired, padded bras with lolita.
I keep seeing booblitas complaining about not fitting into brand while refusing to even just try a sports bra or compressing shapewear, just because of the dreaded boobloaf.

You're already dressed like a total weirdo, nobody gives a shit about you having a uniboob so go squish your boobs into that <100cm bust circumference with a good old sports bra and wear your brand. Stop giving fucks.

>>10715384
sport bras actually make my boobs huge because they're wideset and it pulls them together but go off. also compression clothing can injury mammary tissue so...

>>10715408
nta You're a fucking retard. I'm wide set. If it's pulling them together then it's compressing them. It doesn't push mass to one area and then "look bigger." What, because of cleavage? How old are you that you think cleavage = bigger?

>>10715368
Men prefer smaller women but they're fat themselves and have to settle. But it really doesn't matter what men think because they'll stick their dick in any wet hole.

>>10714277
>>10714279
Bless you for this, I've needed new office clothes for a while but everything in stores is cut like a sack. Shame they're stopping production of their clothing line at the end of the month, though.

>>10715945
No problem, if this thread is still alive when I come across more places I'll post here. Too bad we can't have a thread like this in /fa/.

>>10714301

they meant that other people, not the person with the figure.

>>10714277
Thank you so much! What a shame they are closing this

>>10716051
Wait what?? That’s where I buy all my bras from

>>10716058
They're only discontinuing the clothing line, it looks like they'll still be manufacturing lingerie and swimwear.

>>10714251
Just because a woman has big boobs it doesn't mean they look good in fashionova clothing. Also, petite women DO wear fashionova and thot clothes without being bullied. Believe it or not, a lot people in the west find petite women attractive and find bbl bodies disgusting.

>>10714274
No shit, that body type is very rare anyways.

>>10711728
You say that like we don't pick each other apart more than any other folks

>>10710853
You're absolutely wearing the wrong size/brand of binder. I do agree with that other anon that starting with losing weight because I went up 4 bra sizes when I gained 20 lbs. Lost 10 pounds and kept it off recently and all my preferred minimizers are fitting again.

>>10711088
Won't let me link but

Lilyette by Bali Women's Plunge Into Comfort Keyhole Minimizer

On amazon, even if you know your size remeasure to make sure. Works like a dream

>>10719427
See
>>10714544
>>10714601

thanks for the nut, gals.

>>10714301
NTA but it's always Americans saying shit like this whenever someone calls out their bone rattling. It might surprise you, but there are places in the world where our self-perception isn't so fucked up by media brainwash that we feel the need to choose between deathfat and ana. Size 6-8 is not fat.
.t 'murican size 4 "super curvy" according to that chart

I was a D cup when I was underweight, then I gained weight and they went to DDs. Genuinely considering a breast reduction.

>>10721692
You don't need to get a reduction. Don't let online freaks make you hate your body. It's one size clothing, that's basically unheard of in counties that aren't ethnically homogeneous. That doesn't mean your body is wrong or bad.

>>10721704
t. scrote who wants the "rare" skinny big boobed gf, I've had so many men get offended at the mere idea of losing even more weight or reductions to shrink my breasts and they always give off the same creepy entitled vibes. No one needs to hate their body but barring height or severe genetically huge breasts (usually FAR larger than a D cup) fitting into Japanese sizes when you're at a low weight is not difficult.
>>10721692
Anon, if you're small enough to be underweight and a D cup the actual volume of the breast tissue is likely not too large for lolita so don't worry. Unless you're cursed with a huge ribcage like some anons, big and small chested alike, but reductions and binders can't change that. Don't be afraid to alter your clothes or pay attention to which cuts have more shirring, etc.

>>10721692
> I was underweight, then I gained weight and they went to DDs
Says a lot about Americans when people would rather get expensive complex surgery leaving lifelong scars rather than lose weight

>>10721821
If she was underweight and gained weight she probably was at a healthy weight, not overweight after.

Everyone who gains weight doesn't get obese. I put a lot of energy into gaining muscle and healthy weight in college, and I'm sure as hell not obese and still on the lower range of healthy BMI.

>>10721823
if she was gaining weight from working out her tits would get smaller, not bigger

anon is a fatty-chan

>>10721868
You have to eat more even with working out to gain muscle weight. Some of what you gain is muscle but especially if you start off underweight and increase calorie intake even with high protein to bulk up you inevitably will gain a little body fat, just not an unhealthy amount. I gained some fat but mostly muscle. DD isn't even that big unless you're sporting a huge band size due to wide ribs or excess fat, and an underweight person gaining just a little to be healthy is not going to have excess fat.

Reductions are not a surgery I recommend unless it's your last resort. Especially just for lolita when you can just take your items to a tailor, but to imply anon is fat for gaining any amount of weight when she started underweight is silly.

38G here, and I’m about 5’1” Band sizes do get smaller when you lose weight, right?

>>10721941
Since you are 38 band, yeah probably.

>>10721941
Yes and usually cup sizes do as well, unless you have dense breasts that aren't fatty then you go up a cup size and then it's really more up to your horomonal management.

>>10710853
I started changing my wardrobe to more feminine styles. To my dismay, unless you're dressing to show off your tits finding button ups, blazers, blouses or anything that isn't a hoodie isn't made for bigger busts. I'm dissapointed that I can't wear most OPs and no salopettes.

>>10715384
What's even so bad about Uni-boob anyway

>>10721941
Yes. 38 is pretty big for your height unless you're a barrel chested Mexican. Would assume you have some back fat to be that large, you should be able to get down to at least 34. 32 if you lose a lot of weight

>>10721941
yes but only to a certain degree because you can't shrink your ribs. the smallest bandsize i ever was even when i was skelly was 32

>>10711011
I don't like getting unneeded surgery, although it would help my back out a bit it's not to the level where I feel like I need it.

>>10712739
imagine being fat and tall

>>10714197
Lmao this retard thinks implants aren't invasive. Try increased risks of a specific implant induced cancer the longer they stay in your body, several necessary revision surgeries every 5-10 years to decrease said risks, capsules which will form regardless of how successful the surgery is, possible contractures, life-ruining immune system dysfunctions... The list goes on.

>>10721868
You know you can gain muscle in your pectorals and it lifts your breasts, making them appear bigger right? Your bra size may change as a result.

>>10711244
Yeah this whole post is cap it's not possible to jump from a D to a B without surgery larpfag

>>10732138
Oh please. I've been into lolita since '07 and have been working on my diet and exercise this entire time. Just because you're fat and lazy so it will never happen for you, doesn't mean it's not possible for other people.

God you're dumb.

>>10732156
Do you...believe everyone is flat chested if they just try hard enough? I-is that what you tell yourself while crying yourself to sleep?
Some people are blessed with a big chest even when they're thin. Life's not fair, it's just how it is.

>>10732158
>Some people are blessed with a big chest
>blessed
>lolita scene
Get out of here scrote larper. We don't care about your opinions.

>>10732156
>I've been into lolita since 07 and have been working-
No you haven't and no you aren't nice try

>>10732715
ok anon, hard to believe people exist in the world rite. we can't all live in our mother's basement

>>10732715
>newfag

Question for small chested friends from a big chested one. What are the downsides of being smaller that doesn't involve what other people think about you? This isn't bait or a gotcha, I just can't think of many. First thing that came to mind was trying to fill out a dress but you can tailor it down or wear padding. Infact, one of my annoyances is that too many come with padding but no support. What is your side? And remember, it can't relate to how people see you. We all have problems with that.

>>10732728
Bras don't fit because the cups are made too big (like at the store not a speciality shop). The bra slides up because you dont have boobs to keep it in place. The empty cups make weird shapes under clothes. You don't have enough boob to fill out certain styles of shirts. When your SO lays on your chest it probably isn't comfortable because it is 100% sternum. Can never paizuri. Padding doesn't look good and just isn't comfortable. If you just go braless it is still very nipple so that doesn't work either. I mean it's not too bad but all of these things are annoying. I am a AA.

>>10732752
Thanks for answering, I can see how those can be an issue. I;ve always been envious of smaller chests because they seemed more versatile but wanted to hear from the other side. Don't feel too bad about inability to do paizuri. I tried a couple times but I had to like, crush my tits together because even thought they're big, there's no real friction unless you're pushing them together hard enough to make it "tight" which just hurts and gets tiresome. Don't like it. For your nipple problem, I can share a possible solution: I have the same issue even WITH a bra so bought pasties to wear underneath. I hope that helps a bit?

>>10732752
>When your SO lays on your chest it probably isn't comfortable because it is 100% sternum.


troon incel detected.

The secret for looking good in lolita despite having boobs is buying clothes that fit, it's that simple. They are out there. Be patient and search for them. Stop squeezing yourselves into clothes that are more than 3 centimeters below your measurements.

>>10732772
>buying clothes that fit, it's that simple
No shit
>Be patient and search for them
No shit, that's what everyone is doing and why this thread exists.

Has anyone afflicted with big boobs ever managed to wear an underbust JSK without it looking like a Halloween dirndl costume?

>>10733021
Tbh it only looks like that when someone is also fat. If your boobs are actually the only part of you that’s large, and you get enough support your boobs won’t hang over and look dirndl esque. Keep your boobs high, and make sure the waist actually fits.

>>10714051
Aight but having large breasts can damage your back over time sooo pick your damage I guess.

>>10714251
>mainstream fashion praises and caters to them
t. scrote
Holy fuck how ignorant can you be?

The photoshopped models who are all actually A-cups with flattering angles are not big titted or curvy.

What is with this thread? It's less problems and more people seeking to bully out of... jealously I guess??

>>10737404
>What is with this thread? It's less problems and more people seeking to bully out of... jealously I guess??

honestly i don't get it, most of us who have big tid don't want them and especially not for a fashion like lolita where you're kinda screwed if you do have them. what is there to bully and be jealous of?

GULLS! I finally got the date for my reduction surgery. Going from a 30H/I to hopefully a D/C cup. I will no longer be barred from wearing some of my favorite unshirred OPs and I can finally stop looking like fucking Kirkland Jessica Rabbit. Follow your dreams they really do come true!!!

>>10738116
Congrats anon! Tip from a one-time 30D who is now a 30C after a year of exercise: ask your surgeon to aim for the C for a better fit. Noticeably comfier in lolita and looks gorgeous out of clothes too.

>>10710813

Lolita is for short, thin, flat chested people. Brands don't make lolita clothing for tall, well endowed people. That's just how it is.

>>10746262
meta and mam both make plus size dresses

I'm a gay dude and im posting here just to oppress you.

>>10746365
Whatever makes you sleep better at night bro

>>10746365
I hate gay dudes
They think its ok to grope people's boobs because "I'm gay lol"

>>10710813
can’t stop thinking of the girl in my old comm who got a breast reduction with the hopes she’d be able to fit into brand, but she’s generally all around big so it made no difference. Also she intentionally buys brand she can’t fit in the hopes of… fitting. also borrowed money from minors but that’s a different story.

>>10746397
those are falseflaggers.

No gay dude wants to touch your tits.

>>10746564
This is untrue. IRL (in theater as a teen in school) I have had gay men bully and sexually harass me in ways they just got away with because the excuse was they're gay and not into women so they couldn't be sexually harassing me. Verbal and touching my boobs and making extremely inappropriate comments straight guys in school would have gotten suspended or written up for. They were able to wave it away as a joke since they were gay but no one liked them and they made everyone uncomfortable. It made us appreciate the gay guys who were normal and well adjusted even more because they treated us reasonably instead of randomly using their sexuality as an excuse for why they made life hell for many of the girls.

coomer/scrote/chud here, didn't read the thread at all but boob loaf is kinda hot ngl

>>10746750
literally no one here cares about your faggot opinion

>>10710853
HOMMINA HOMMINA
AWOOOOOGGGAAAAAAA

>>10711042
70 x)

>>10746397
I can't believe this is so prevalent, had this happen to me too, I left the GSA because of it. Fruit flies will lie for them though for "equality" and they get away from it

>>10711894
rcdart booty.....

>>10749252
I'm... I'm gonna...
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>>10710813
BOOBA

>>10711029
Ahhh I've been looking for something like this to try! Everything I use as a wrap to try and control my bust doesn't cut the whole day; do you have a link or search term?

>>10710925
you're legit jealous

>>10711672
based

>>10752541
P
P
Please miss
May
May I control your bust the whole day?

>>10710925
a minority of the population in your country uses 4chan
a tiny minority of 4chan users browse cgl
less than 100% of cgl users are female
even in this tiny minority of the general population, theres still enough big breasted females to fill a whole thread
seems like big tits are common as dirt

Sorry for posting "booba"
I was aroused and not in my right mind officer