/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Pass

>>10702724
>No test for Ikkicon
>No masks for Colossal Texas ANYWHERE
>tfw Austin is more loose about this than Ft. Worth

>>10702724
Yeah nevermind

>>10702724
Are you mad that being vaxxed is not a requirement or a requirement? If you don't want to be vaxxed, just show up with a proof that you were recently tested and negative and you're good to go you lazy fuck.

>>10702752
It's not about testing. It's about sending a message.

>>10702753
And what is that message? Working class folk are not welcome?

>>10702757
No idea where that came from desu. More like "Don't set a precedent for everyone to say you need a card for entry, full stop."

>>10702724
Good. Stay home. The less unwashed scared of a shot weebtards, the better the experience.

I'll be faking test papers lel

>>10702724

Last time I checked we are not in the Soviet Union so I have no reason to start showing people papers.

Excited to see how it pans out. It's been a while since I've actually been interested in con programming and they at least sound like they know what they're doing, which is more than I can say for most Texas cons.

>>10703086
>Implying whinging cowards like yourself are going, with or without jab
Fucking jej

>>10703088
Yet more Americans are now begging for a communist government because capitalism has failed everyone.

>>10703103
What programming were you interested in? There were only a few things that interested me on the schedule, so I'm kind of regretting getting weekend passes at this point. Maybe I'm missing something though.

I bought a weekend pass when the con was announced only to have covid happen at least the tickets rolled over, only going to go Fri and Sat and I'm only going Sat to see the FF concert.

>>10702724
Someone should tell them that they can't ask for proof that they have gotten the Covid-19 vaccine or if they have a negative test. I mean they can but they are facing a lawsuit.
https://faq.sll.texas.gov/questions/45208
(c) A business in this state may not require a customer to provide any documentation certifying the customer's COVID-19 vaccination or post-transmission recovery on entry to, to gain access to, or to receive service from the business. A business that fails to comply with this subsection is not eligible to receive a grant or enter into a contract payable with state funds.

(d) Notwithstanding any other law, each appropriate state agency shall ensure that businesses in this state comply with Subsection (c) and may require compliance with that subsection as a condition for a license, permit, or other state authorization necessary for conducting business in this state.

>>10703291
The FF concert is Sunday

I bought tickets for last year because the guest list was stacked for a year 1 con, but IDK about going since I couldn't convince any friends to go with the free 2nd badge they gave out + I'm in Austin so I have 2 badges & no lodging

>>10703296
Well shit, now I (almost) wish I had an excuse to go over there and stir up a fuss over this, but HolMat calls instead. Two weeks ago we saw what happens when you spread things thin with three cons (New York, Austin, Vegas). Now we got it again on the 17th. Have to see how that goes, huh?

>>10703296
>>10703349
I'm guessing at least one person is going to show up and have a copy of the bill showing they can't ask them just so they can sue them.

They probably just copied what they did in NYC thinking it applied in Dallas.

>>10702724
I hate all of you antivax fucks and hope you catch covid and die. Cons are better without your whiny ass.

>>10703377
The "vaccine" doesn't work. People can still get Covid and die. What's the point? If you're vaccinated, that's great! Just leave the rest of us alone.

>>10703377
Fuck you bitch. My freedom trumps your feelings.

>>10703379
Most of the people dying from covid are you antivax assholes. Seatbelts don't prevent car crashes, but I bet you still wear them

>>10703377
The feeling is mutual, but we're still going to cons, and I'm betting faggots like you aren't. Or if you do, you're not living it up because you're a weak kneed pussy. Regardless, have a terrible day and cry some more. <3

>>10703296
Hey fucktard, that law doesn't apply to private businesses or private events. Anime Frontier isn't receiving money from the state of Texas nor are they in a contract payable with state funds. They're within their right to ask for a vaccine card or negative test.

It's fuckwits like you on why they scream MI RIWGTS when they can't even bother to read. Anime Frontier sure as hell checked with their lawyers first while you badly Googled it calling it 'research'.

>>10703428
Not even him, but I strongly suggest you invest in some good quality rope

>>10703428
>"(c) A business in this state may not require a customer to provide any documentation certifying the customer's COVID-19 vaccination or post-transmission recovery on entry to, to gain access to, or to receive service from the business."

The first part of this statement says that a business can't ask for vaccination status or if you are negative for Covid.

"A business that fails to comply with this subsection is not eligible to receive a grant or enter into a contract payable with state funds."

The second part isn't contingent of the first part. If a business gets funds from the state and tries to ask for your vaccination status they will be denied the funds.

Instead of going on some rant I would suggest you take the time to read each part of the document and understand what it says.

>>10703496
>Expecting someone who's about to blow a gasket to understand anything you say
Your effort is admirable, but also wasted. Let's see what other profanity laden drivel he cooks up next.

>>10703103
>sound like they know what they're doing
I got the impression they didn't understand anything.
They originally scouted out san Antonio for a location, until the city itself said "wait, you'll fuck over san japan? Gtfo"
Then, instead of chosing houston, the 4th biggest city in the US, with 1st or 2nd largest asian population, and 2 major airports, and an anime convention everyone is rooting to fail, they go to dfw, which has more anime cons per capita than any other metro area in the state.
And when i asked why they didn't chose Houston, they acted like Houston was a no name city no one goes to.
So instead they chose ft worth.
Cause that's got name appeal, am i right?
On the planning back end, they kept a LOT of panelists and venders in the dark about logistics for a long time, and they seem to be importing their covid policies from nyc with no regard for how Texans will react.
I have a free pass, so I'll go, and I'll be happy if they are a success, I'm just not getting my hopes up

>>10703428
It also applies to anyone getting permits or licenses from the state, like anyone serving food, alcohol, etc.
Likely Frontier doesn't apply, but the convention center would, so there's some question there

>>10703526
To add to this they are doing it when school is in session. I get that it is the weekend but you have finals coming up so you are going to have a lot of kids who would normally go to the con at home studying.

>they seem to be importing their covid policies from nyc with no regard for how Texans will react.

If you look at the Anime NYC policy you have to have at least one vaccine shot just to get into the con. If anything they just put in the negative Covid test or proof of vaccine and hoped that no one would question it.

>>10703526
>I'll be happy if they are a success,
Ok, but....why?

>>10703526
Idk it seems like a pretty widespread idea that Houston fucking sucks and already has Matsuri, which as shitty as it is, the city still supports and relies on. I know we want everyone to shit on Matsuri but I wouldn't be surprised if out-of-state people don't know the extent of how much Texas wants Matsuri to fail. The FW convention center is a decent size especially for a first-year con, and likely more affordable than anywhere in Houston, or even going to Kay Bailey in Dallas.
The Covid policy itself is pretty okay, imo. It's not like regulations have stopped people from getting fake vaccine cards or negative tests. As a business they have a right to ask anything of anyone, and the right to refuse "service" (entry) to anyone, just like literally any business ever. If someone wants to sue them for asking for proof, by all means, but it may not end well.

I hope they succeed so you whiny pass babies can just stew in it lmao.

>>10702753
>Sending a message
What? That you can be infected with the Trump Virus and intentionally spread it to others because you aren't forced to prove you aren't infected by it?
I mean, it is on brand for Trump given we just found out he was infected with a the Trump Virus before meeting with Gold Star Families and then lied trying to scapegoat them for his own infection.
I assume you're the same way, everyone else has to be personally responsible, except for yourself.

>>10703554
>As a business they have a right to ask anything of anyone, and the right to refuse "service" (entry) to anyone, just like literally any business ever.

This isn't true, this is the entire point of Senate Bill 968, it is to prevent a business from asking. If they do ask you don't have to tell them. If they decide not to serve you because of this then you can sue them for violating Texas State law.

By your logic if I own a business I can ask if someone is vaccinated against smallpox, if they are gay, or in an interracial relationship. If they give me an answer I do not like I can refuse to business with them. The thing is, that is called discrimination, which is illegal. There have been plenty of court cases where people sued a business for refusing to business with them because the business was being discriminatory.

>>10703555
No idea what any of that means, but I'm assuming wasted trips for the time being

>>10703563
Just means you're a conservative who's a selfish and doesn't care if other people suffer and die because of your own personal actions.
Trips don't lie.

>>10703558
If this was true then concert and theater venues wouldn't be able to require vax cards to attend shows. I don't see lawsuits pouring in on them. Businesses and events can set their own rules as long as they're not funded by the state of Texas.

Stop grasping at straws.

>>10703564
cool

>>10703575
Well I guess it is nice to know that Texas isn't stuck in 1950's Moscow where you need papers to do the basic of things.

>>10703554
It doesn't matter what anyone thinks of AM, the fact that the 4th largest city in the country has one shitty anime con is insane. The fact that no one sees a huge untapped market in Houston is depressing and why would ANYONE think San Antonio should be their first choice in location for con expansion?

Huge missed opportunity. You can't even use the excuse of cheap English VAs as a DFW appeal because Sentai is in Houston.

Wow I legit thought I clicked on a California con thread with the amount of shit going on here. Then agian, with the amount of fucking transplants it's of no surprise that this stupid shit seeps in.

>>10703603
You literally need vax papers to send your kid to school

>>10703554
>I hope they succeed so you whiny pass babies can just stew in it lmao.
Hey, i said i hope they succeed too

>>10703608
Only public school. Nothing mandating your kid is vaxxed just to exist.

>>10703605
There are other anime cons in Houston besides AM but they're considered dogshit. They're rarely mention on here.

Corpo con is very corporate.

They are actively trying to kill orher cons buy shelling out money to industry to nor go to other cons.

>>10703607
This shit is tame compared to a typical Texas thread. It does spiral out of control when AM is discussed.

>>10703624
The way that A-Kon and Afest are going they have a good chance to curb stomp.

>>10703627
They are doing it on a national level. Notice industry is hiding from certain cons under excuse of covid but then goes to the hot bed areas?

>>10703627
Animefest is still good? I heard A-kon was a nightmare the year before covid though, the panels were all in one room happening at one time so no one could hear anything. When I heard Animefrontier was starting at the FW con center I assumed they chose it specifically to replace A-kon because they used to be there.

>>10703666
Yeah Afest was pretty good in 2019 and Akon was a clusterfuck. Not only were the panels divided by curtains, nobody's mics worked at the 1 panel I did try to go to so I just walked out. The schedule on their website was wrong so everyone got kicked out of the gaming area an hour earlier than expected. The concert was a lot of fun, but even that was on the other end of town so you had to ride the train or find someone who was driving

If anyone wants a free Friday only badge I have a couple codes. I think everyone who bought the 3-day was emailed one.

Isn't this con run by the Anime NYC people who just unleashed a superspreader event on the city? I don't give a shit one way or the other about vaccine mandates, but at least stick by them if you're making people go through the effort of bringing their card or getting tested. Obviously it was all talk given what happened last weekend.

>>10703624
Yeah. I'm going because I haven't been to a con in two years but I prefer fan cons so much more. The programming feels so bland, and you cannot use covid as an excuse for anything in Texas at this point.

>>10703784

>>10703784
The difference between New York and Texas is they don't need to report they unleashed a super spreader in Texas.
This should be fun.

Just finished day 1. They do not have a lot of programming, really sparse schedule. There are some weird vendors like a plant stand???

Overall opinion, they better step it up and learn what the demo down here wants instead of trying to port their model from NY.

Maybe tomorrow will be better?

>>10704101
>>10704101
Vendor here. Its insanely slow like slowest con I've been to. I really hope tomorrow is better.

>>10704101
Is it bad? I have a badge but live in a different city so was considering day tripping it tomorrow, but am wishy washy on if it will be worth it.

>>10704110
It’s not worth it in my opinion unless you literally have nothing else to do tomorrow. In that case, it’s at least a step up from sitting at home on a Saturday. The programming (or whatever there was of it) sucked, game room was incredibly small, a lot of the vendors were selling bootlegs despite the “harsh” no bootleg policy so that was annoying, and the AA quality was all over the place. I’m still going tomorrow because I’ve spent too many Saturdays this year on the couch but this con is far below average. Cool itashas, though.

>>10704110
meter parking in downtown ft worth is free, so if you already have a badge, and want to get cool photos at the water gardens, I'd say it's worth a day trip
otherwise pass.

>>10703784
>Obviously it was all talk given what happened last weekend
they're aggressively checking vax status or covid testing, using a wristband to check
Also, in case you haven't heard, most of the vaccines aren't very effective against omicron.
Also, considering the guy probably FLEW to NYC, he very well could have picked it up in an airport.
Given he was showing symptoms that monday, it's highly likely he caught it in the airport when he arrived.
Not that it much matters. The venue space is massive and the attendance couldn't have peaked over 3k.
For texas, that's a mid sized con at best. Not a lot of bunching up after the initial line first thing in the morning.

>>10703666
2019 akon was all sorts of weird. I think they had a change in ownership or corporate restructuring, and a lot of decisions were made that year that wouldn't be made any other year.
But then covid happened. And they had to take 2 years off. So who fucking knows. Might be a whole new crew by the time it comes back.
animefest is comfy, but pretty sure they're gonna die this year. They weren't prepared to happen this year at all, but the venue forced their hand, so I don't expect much. They've been in trouble for years though.

>>10704146
I didn’t even realize Anime Fest was happening this year still. This really might be their last year which is a shame because they’re one of the last cons with that oldschool by fans, for fans feel.

>>10704161
They have a lot of great staff, but their owner started micromanaging some stuff about 7 years ago and it hasn't been the same since.
Still probably the most fun texas con. San japan beats it some years, but not always

God I know /cgl/ has gone to shit when it’s faggots complaining about showing a vaccine card at a fucking first year 4/10 anime “convention” that is literally just a $30 entry to a dealer’s room. My favorite part is that you faggots are always fat ugly no shower taking motherfuckers irl which makes all of your takes even funnier. It wasn’t good but wasn’t bad. Not like texas cons are ever good.

@10704173
Wrong on every count but k. Are you ready to prove what an amazing specimen of his humanity you are? It would be a perfect BTFO against your (perceived) foes

>>10704198
Silence, fat.

>>10704173
Lol, fine, ill post pic evidence later today

>>10704251
>doing anything because anon called you fat

>>10704107
I hope today picks up for you vendor bro

>>10704110
It's pretty lack luster. I wasn't a local I would probably thik itvwas a waste of time. If you miss cons and love looking at merch it might be worth it to you. I wouldn't drive morecthan an hour for it.

So lets break this down

Before the con even started

First year con
Held in December when most people who would attend are still in school are are getting ready for finals.
Held in DFW which already has plenty of con's
Corporate con road show, copy/paste of their other con, nothing original about it
Lackluster guest list
Requiring negative Covid tests or proof of vaccine

Friday review

>>10704107
Hardly anyone at the con

>>10704130
Programming is bad, game room is small, plenty of illegal bootlegs, AA all over the place in quality

>>10704142
Free metered parking downtown, water gardens in the area are fun to look at.

>10704234
Cool nonargument, retard. Kindly neck yourself.

>>10704260
>Hardly anyone at the con
Not really
Probably 2500+
Just not enough for an event like this
You're right about transplanting though, i saw pics of anime nyc

>>10704274
I think they were expecting to clear 10,000 on the first day

How is it looking today? Any better than Friday?

>>10704306
Closer to 4500 today, and a little better content
More cosplay

>>10704327
Dealers room pretty jumping

Imagine being such a whiny little 4 year old that you're afraid of a shot & are chimping out about people wanting verification that you got it

>>10704327
4500... Wow, that is really bad. First year, middle of no where con's bring in 10,000+.

>>10704359
4500 is probably the biggest first year anime show texas has seen.
Gaming cons and comic cons tend to do better though.
The problem is, they bought the space for 15,000.

>>10704359
That's probably because they're in the middle of nowhere and are grasping at straws for something interesting to do

>>10704402
Or they actually know how to throw a con that people would want to go to

I’ll be going tomorrow, does anyone know if it’s hot or cold inside ? I might wear a heavy thick cosplay

>>10704412
You’ll be fine. It’s not crowded and there’s A/C.

>>10704416
Love u anon thanks very much

Any after parties tonight in FW? Heard Red Goose might host one

>>10704402
>>10704411
Well, the cosplay show has a pretty small turn out. 1200 people maybe?
Also, wtf they just announced someone's name because they found a vaccine card. Holy shit wtf is wrong with people

>>10704423
You get what you pay for. I mean it isn't hard to this.

"Kek Anon, Kek Anon, we have some of your personnel property at the help desk, please come by to pick it up."

In a strange twist, their cosplay show halftime show was

Another cosplay show
That had it's own halftime show...

Gotta hand it to the mc.
He's not my style, but he knows how to stretch everything out to kill time without feeling deliberate

>>10704449
So the cosplay halftime show was another cosplay show, that had it's own halftime show. What was the second cosplay halftime show?

Maaaaan that cosplay contest was rigger

After-party at shitty little bar above Red Goose bar, no ID

>>10704471
It's the red door.

>>10704457
Amvs

So, looks like they overshot their was but already announced December 2022 dates.
Not sure if they picked the same location

What was the final verdict on the con?

>>10704761
Disappointing but not overtly bad.
If they plan better next year, and fix their cosplay show, they could make a real go of it

>>10704761
I felt bamboozled. Not Dashcon bad but close. They definitely advertised this as a con that would have all of these fun things to do and a similar experience to Anime NYC but it felt more like a glorified shopping trip.

>>10704462
>>10704762
What do you mean about the cosplay show?

>>10704761
The final fantasy concert was great. Honestly i would have paid $35 to see it just by itself anyway so i’m pleased.
Everything else seemed like a glorified taobao shopping experience and i wouldn’t recommend

>>10704766
They didn't allow anyone to sign up on site, so it was a tiny show. Barely any entrants, though some were pretty good.
Then the halftime show was 40% of the events runtime. I suspect the judges didn't need that much time, or the con was aggressively enforcing it's own standards for judging which caused arguments.
The best in show was strange, as it wasn't better than the best craftsmanship, nor best performance winners. It's like they had a 50/50 ratio, so they chose the person with an 7/10 performance and 7/10 craftsmanship, because 14/20 was higher than those who got 9/10 craftsmanship but only 4/10 performance.
Seems like skits were heavily favored.
The fact that the judges didn't actually explain any decisions except for judges awards just leaves a lot of questions. Their choices might have made perfect sense, but the audience didn't know that.

Staff was friendly and helpful, the vendors hall/artists alley was decent sized, probably about the same size as Fan Expo Dallas (minus the lower level of exhibits and autograph area), and they got a lot of voice actors to come so I got a few autographs. I don’t care much for panels in general so can’t say much there. Lots of cosplayers and a vary wide range of vendors, seemed like everyone was having a pretty good time. I also really liked how the whole vendors hall smelled like popcorn instead of sweat, wish more cons would invite popcorn vendors just for that, it was super effective. They also had a huge seating area for eating and stations for napkins/condiments/trash which is more effort than a lot of Texas cons make.

>>10704840
>Lots of cosplayers
Huh?
My biggest issue was the severe lack of cosplay

>>10704920
You only went on Friday huh

>>10704920
Do you mean cosplay as in costumes or cosplay as in 'costume play' because if it is the former, you are wrong. Coming from a person that dressed up all three days.
I like the random ass looks in San Japan more than DFW for some reason.

>>10704967
I mean the overall percentage of people wearing costumes to those not wearing costumes was pretty low for a texas convention

>>10704959
no, all 3 days.
Maybe it's just been too long since before covid, and you all forgot how much cosplay is typically at a convention

>>10704806
not everyone who applied got into the contest, which is kinda fucked when you realize the event ended 20 minutes early

>>10704969
I'm with you that there was a lower percentage than normal, but there were also less 'I threw on a green wig and called it pajama deku'. Not that that's my business what other people dress as, but the quality tended to be a bit higher so maybe I was biased. I liked the FF costumes as well as the Soul Eater costumes, plenty of them compared to before.

My overall opinion of this con

My overall opinion of this con

so the official numbers just came in with an attendance of an estimated 13,000 guests and 378 vendors/artist

>>10705788
Goddamn, thats a ton of dudes.I guess they're on their way to being stuck in Texas.
Meanwhile, did anyone check out the polls? Fucking questions about 18+ and fan made panels and after party events, which they had exactly 0 of.

>>10705794
looking through it right now and all of a sudden its asking if i plan on making any major purchases this year, am i in the arm forces, education level etc to craft targeted email blasts?

>>10705788
LMAO absolutely not. They couldn't even fill main events saturday night for the cosplay show and that was literally the only thing still going on.

>>10705807
DO YOU PLAN TO BUY A HOUSE THIS YEAR ANON?
I'm planning to buy ramen thank u very much

>>10705788
No panel had more than 100 people
Cosplay show had 1000 at best.

>>10706028
The zombieland screening had maybe 30? What panles actually pulled 100 people?

>>10706032
LAVA room was full if I remember, the line was like 200+ people to get in, from the 202 room all the way to the hall where the idols danced in the second/3rd floor.

anime

>>10706055
fpbp check em

>>10706032
I dunno, I just remember walking by and seeing a panel on saturday and thinking "Wow, that's the first time I've seen the room more than half empty"
probably a guest related panel

Concert in the main ballroom on Sunday was the only thing that looked pretty full, though there were still some empty seats between groups. That's the only reason I went back Sunday, if it weren't for the concert I would've just stayed home.
Vendor hall was pretty good but that was like the only thing the con had going for it. Was kinda surprised there wasn't a booth for Afest considering how soon and local it is. I did see that A-Kon is trying to rebrand after the fiasco that was 2019.
Did the exit survey but just left all the demographic shit blank, doesn't seem relevant to organizing a convention

>>10706115
A-kon rebranding as next episode was a pretty good mark but honestly I'm going to hope it's not another filler.
I mean their weekend tickets are fucking /80 dollars/.

>>10706119
>I mean their weekend tickets are fucking /80 dollars/.
Same price with Animefest that's why I'm not going

>>10706115
>Was kinda surprised there wasn't a booth for Afest considering how soon and local it is.
I'm not sure how the shows that HAD tables even got them, must have been agressively chasing them.
Frontier didn't approach other cons at all

>>10706121
I can understand A-kon doing it because they are hoping to chase another 30K like they used to pull, so they might go all out to try and justify it. Even Fair park, as sad as it was, still was an ATTEMPT and had a lot of shit.
However Afest doing 80? I don't understand that at all. Are they including GameFest into it as well for a last second con?

>>10706251
A fest has been 80 at the door for a few years, they just usually back it up with 4 days and Japanese guests

>>10706256
Not that I didn't believe you, but I looked it up and saw they did a first come first serve badge pricing where certain badges were worth 30, then 40, etc for a limited amount. This was back in 2018.

>>10706274
They did that this year too. They switched from a time based discount to an amount of sales discount several years ago.

>>10706278
Makes sense now, but what doesn't is how 2018 had 800~ badges for the early costs and now it was fucking 5 and 10 for them this year. Also if I am reading it right, they've sold less than 1000 badges so far?

>>10706290
They rolled over 2020 purchases, so they have a smaller available amount.

>>10706495
Thank you for your well thought out and reasonable response.
I'm over-reacting and I apologize. Thank you for your insight.

turns out upper management/founders used to be senior vp for reed exhibitions the parent of reedpop and also happened to be the founders of NYCC. so that corpo feeling was right on the money

>>10707436
"Turns out"
How was this news to anyone? It was right on the website