/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10703516
Omicron is supposedly the most mild variant.
Only reason to freak out is cause officials will overreact

don't care didn't ask plus you're an npc

>>10703527
Second post best post only post needed /thread

>>10703516
Did you get fully vaccinated from the Trump Virus? Then at worse you'll get a very mild version of the Omicron Trump Virus and be able to infect anyone who refuses to get vaccinated.
Win-win for culling the weak among not only the anime fandom, but society as a whole.

>being afraid of a made up virus
lmao

And this is why I don’t go to cons during a pandemic. You can control people do in an event space, you can’t control them in hotel rooms partying and drinking beer.

>>10703556
The vaccine reduces death and hospitalization, not prevent it. Surviving covid isn't the end of the story.
>Survivors of severe COVID-19—especially those younger than 65 years—may be at more than twice the risk of dying within the next year than those who had mild or moderate illness or were never infected, finds a study today in Frontiers in Medicine.
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/12/severe-covid-tied-high-risk-death-mostly-other-causes-within-year

>>10703516
who cares? did this really need a whole thread

>>10703561
That's quite alright, we're better off without you anyway.

>>10703516
All Minnesonians need to be genocided

>>10703516
There's no confirmed deaths from this variant, right? Obviously more to it than life/death, but pretty sure you don't die if your vacced, which is sort of the point of requiring vaccines at cons.

>>10703574
Just the stinking Somalis is fine.

hey, definitely not a researcher here, I'm wondering if I can find more publically pics of this conference? Totally not doing a study on how transmissible the virus is to people wearing kigurumis.

Here we go again with another thread of doomers vs antivaxers. Annoying sides of the same coin.

>>10703516
It's annoying that the republicans yet again destroy lives.

>>10703641
Cry harder

>>10703677
At least your orange god wont destroy humanity.

>>10703685
Let's go Brandon. Looking forward to 2024 bout you

>>10703516
Vaxzis on both sides of the aisle blown the fuck out. Regular testing remains king.

>>10703516

goddamnit lisa i dont even like anime and now i'm probably carrying this shit around while visiting my family for thanksgiving.

>>10703516
whats wrong? vaxx failing to protect you weak ass?
but dont worry, unless you are older than 60 or some lardass nothing is gonna happen to you... surely you arent some sort of fatty, are you?

>>10703721
As if that's the main problem anyway. Vaxmaxing, no matter the phsyical side effects, will give you a mind disease with near 100% precision. This disease will traumatize you from wearing masks outside or eating indoors or fearing the unvaxed swine. And God help anyone who catches it, because this has no known cure anywhere in sight.

https://youtu.be/F3PLJ8YtFOch

>>10703631
>two completely opposing viewpoints
>"these are the same"

American education at its finest.

>>10703723
lmao

>>10703686
Nah, DeSantis 24

My wife's son and her cosplay boyfriend are literally shaking rn.

>>10703516

>>10703569
That's why I said mild version, not full immunity, the article you linked is for people who have serve cases, which is almost always the vaccinated. If anything your article further damns the anti-vax position that they're fine with natural immunity.

>>10703790
Was implying that possibility too desu

>>10703527

I lold so hard I farted assburgers!

>>10703527

archie this shit!

/thread

>>10703791

Bruh you think you guys are shaking rn well my wifes daughter, my wifes boyfriend, my daughters femboi boyfriend, my cousin twice removed, my autismo son, my giddy aunt, my pet cat, and lastly my great grandpappy are all literally shaking and screming right meow!

Appreciate the notice OP but you knew fully well this would attract the worst polfags on this board

>am vaccinated
>wore mask whole time
>at an event over 2 weeks ago
i'm really not going to flip out over 1 person out of 53000 being possibly contagious

>>10703857

im just in it for the memes

>>10703857
Wow, someone with some SENSE and LEVEL HEADEDNESS. What kind of unicorn are you?

Everyone's saying "make sure you get tested!" but it shouldn't b the case that *because* we know there is a case you get tested- after every major event, con or not, you should get tested after. This should be second nature at this point.

>>10703908
Nah getting tested feeds into the conspiracy theory that a deadly disease is going around

>>10704049
Oh wow....

>>10703790
No way. We are keeping him in FL! We need to keep our state based.

>>10703516
no one cares fag.

Oh god oh fuck

>>10704064
eww 'test & trace program'.... how orwellian...

>>10704064

>>10703857
speaking the truth

everyone who would have gotten Omicron already dealt with it. testing now is a waste of everyone's time

like other people said, we should be testing regularly or atleast soon after going to a con

>>10704064
lol, they didn't even need to word it so creepily.
they could have just said "Hi, NYC registrant, we are informing you that to date there has been one case of the omicron covid variant of someone that attended our event. If you were physically at the location during the event, please follow appropriate CDC guidelines in regards to testing or precautions"

Doesn't sound like they're in charge of your health choices that way

>>10704148
>they didn't even need to word it so creepily

>>10703569
>The vaccine reduces death and hospitalization
I need a good quality scientific source for this please

>>10704295
pubmed is your friend

>>10704295

>>10704295
If you have an account with a university, there are some databases I can send you to.

>>10704295
If you need a source to be fed to you then nothing will convince you.

Literally go to school and become a doctor yourself, faget.

>>10704064

Fucking blocked their text and fucking number because they kept leaving me voice messages the past three months and it was getting annoying

>>10704458

Someone should make edit this to make it say seaguls instead of sea lions

>>10704295
Most sources are pozzed. Their info usually comes from the FDA or the CDC and both of those entities are majority funded by Big Pharma.

>>10705216
go be crazy somewhere else

>>10705248
Epic nonargument. But else was to be expected from you "fine" "people"?

>>10703516
The fully vaccinated Minnesota man who became one of the country's first Omicron cases said he was 'taken aback' but feeling well after learning he was infected with the feared variant after coming back from a packed NYC Anime convention in November.

Peter McGinn, 30, had met up with 35 people from a friends group - 15 of whom have since tested positive - to attend the convention at the Javits Center, which drew about 53,000 people from November 20-22.

It is unknown how many in that fully vaccinated group have the Omicron variant. The group had also all gone out to a bar following the event.

McGinn, a health care analyst from Minneapolis, was fully vaccinated and received his first booster shot during the first week of November.

McGinn had flown into LaGuardia Airport in New York on November 18 and stayed with two friends in an Airbnb in Hell's Kitchen. He attended the convention on November 20.

After he returned home from the convention on November 22, a friend had confirmed a positive result for COVID, which prompted McGinn to get a test.

Four of the group members who were with McGinn and have since tested positive are working with the Minnesota Department of Health to see if they contracted the Omicron variant.

Members of the friend group hailed from an array of states across the country - prompting fears that the convention contributed - and may still be contributing - to the strain's spread across the nation.

On Saturday, those fears were confirmed when Connecticut Governor Ned Lamont reported the first case in his state, which was contracted by a man in his 60s who had a relative attend the anime convention.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10281449/Fully-vaxxed-Minnesota-man-speaks-contracting-one-cases-Omicron.html

https://twitter.com/Dontsweattt

Anyone on /cgl/ recognize this man? If so, you may have gotten infected with Omicron by him or his group of 35 friends.

>>10703569
This is legit the most npc bullshit I've seen. Vaxs up until recently, as in after the cdc stealth changed the definition to match their bullshit, prevented you from getting the disease. When you got the polio Vax, you didn't get a "mild case" of polio. You didn't get it at all
Of course it took them 20+ years to get that right, so I suppose the 4 months they worked on this was legit. You need to Vax up 10x and die off for the benefit of the rest of the planet.

>>10705271
>When you got the polio Vax, you didn't get a "mild case" of polio. You didn't get it at all
Flu? HPV? Varicella? There's a shit ton of vaccines that aren't 100% effective and can result in milder cases

>>10705274
Flu: different strain every year, it's never been effective and was designed to not be effective. HPV, made up bullshit. Varicella, chickenpox? Bitch, just fucking get it and be immune.

>>10705271
Before the year 2000, we gave live polio vaccine (OPV) to people that literally gave some people polio each year who got it. The recommended dose was four shots in your lifetime, and additional shots as booster when at risk of catching polio (i.e. a polio outbreak in your area) or in conditions that polio favoured (travelling somewhere that has hot, humid weather or to somewhere less sanitary). It never reached 100% efficacy.

Not to mention that the current polio vaccine, IPV, has 95% efficacy after three shots, and close to 100% after a fourth, but still not a full 100%. So you're incorrect there, too.

Also, you talk about not getting a "mild case" of polio, but over 90% of polio cases are asymptomatic or with very few symptoms. Just that when polio is severe, it's debilitating or life-threatening, leaving people with chronic pain for life, paralyzed, or dead.

Antivaxxers are the easiest people to prove wrong.

>>10703516
if you didn't get vaxxed or hang around the retarded you should be freaking out

>>10705279
Is the polio vax mrna?

>>10705279
Until you're last sentence, i thought you WERE antivax
I don't understand why you just explained in such detail why people should be opposed to the covid vax

FDA released the first of 329.000 pages of Pfizers documentation by FOIA request and even tried to withheld, for 55 years.
Why is that so?

The newest data released by the FDA has:
10.131 headaches in total.

But what is the N?
The total number of vaccinations in the EU, UK, USA, Israel and Saudi Arabia were around 100mil, in that period of time.
Having 2 initial shots, this results in 200 mil doses in total, for Moderna, Pfizer and AstraZeneca.
Even if Pfizer would have administered around 20 mil doses, which is HIGHLY unlikely, that would mean with 10.131 cases of headaches:
A probability of 0,05% of headaches. Significantly better results than in their own study.
This would be all over Television and they would stop to refer to the lousy study with some measly 2%.
Why isn't it then?

Because the number of participants is wrong.
Pfizer concluded a Phase 3 study, with 44k participants and with a probability of headache being at 2%, which they were really really proud of.
Take this 2% probability and calculate it with 10.131 of headache cases in the newest study and you have:

(10.131*100)/2 = ~506.550 total participants.

This study has 1233 fatal cases.
A probability of being a fatal case within this amount of participants is at:
0,243%

This means, that this vaccine is significantly deadlier than covid right now.

Sources:
https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-conclude-phase-3-study-covid-19-vaccine
https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf

>>10705456
1) that's not how statistics work
2) comparing headaches doesn't mean deaths would increase at the same proportion
3) death from the vax and death from covid are HIGHLY dependent on personal medical factors, and you can't say "you're more likely to die of one or the other" without adjusting for it.
I have a heart condition, so I'm at an increased risk from the MRNA vax.
But someone who's very fat would have a far higher risk from Covid, because the difficulty breathing is much more likely to affect a fat person.
4) encouraging people not to make a health care decision because big pharma is immoral is like encouraging people not to go to anime conventions because it's cultural appropriation : No one that didn't have that opinion already is going to care enough to change.

>>10705460
Wrong.
According to the Pfizer docs (that were supposed to be classified for 55 years for some strange reason):
https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf
42k adverse events, including 1223 deaths in the first 3 months.
Pfizer omitted the exact sample size, but in the first 3 months, roughly 500k people have been vaccinated.
That equates to roughly 0.2446% of the vaccinated ending up dead.
Meanwhile COVID killed 5,248,254 people to date in 2 years, which is roughly 0.066% of the population.
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
So it seems you're 4 times as likely to die from the "medication" than what it is being given against. That's not counting the long term (5-10 years) effects of these experimental vaccines.

>>10705306
No, it wasn't, but you already know that. The point is about efficacy, not about vaccine type.

>>10705420
How would I be antivax when I'm disproving what the antivaxxer is saying? Come on, anon.

>>10705471
Uh, you don't count the people who have died out of everyone. You count them out of everyone who has GOTTEN COVID.

That's 5,260,000/266,000,000 = 0.198 or 1.98%

So you are almost eight times more likely to die of covid than of the vaccine with your own numbers you're giving (which includes the assumption of how many people got vaccinated by Pfizer in a 3 month period).

Again, proving antivaxxers wrong is the easiest thing in the world.

>>10705471
That's not how statistics work
You can't just multiply everything up based on conjecture.

>>10705460
Sorry to chime in but I thought the MRNA vaccine isn't the one that was causing the rare heart problem and it was the J&J standard type vaccine one suspected of it?

>>10705541
No, j&j was blood clots for women
Moderna is heart enlargement for men
Pfiezer is a smattering of lesser symptoms
Novavax has no serious side effects

I got Covid right after attending and was bed ridden. Being fully vaxxed isn't as good as presenting a negative test result.

I

>>10705534
>didnt even read links
>>10705535
>took HS stat and thinks their gull brain understands

lol. you all are actual idiots.

>>10705599
I literally used the numbers you quoted. It didn't matter whether or not you lied about them and where you got them because your point was easily proven wrong, and that's with you posting things you think are in your favour.

And again, you compare how many people have died from the vaccine who got the vaccine, and the people who died from covid who got covid. Otherwise, there's no point.

But it's definitely us that are the idiots, anon. :^)

>>10703792
nice OC