/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Is that first website a WIP? Can't click on some menu options.

>>10677628
yes

>>10677674
That makes sense. Well I hope it goes well.

>>10677289
Can someone define this style or provide any info on its origin? Just curious and the stupid questions thread is speeding again.

>>10677674
give up. i hate retards like you trying to shill your shit made up resources

>>10677848
>>10677857
The style is literally just dressing like a school girl. There isn't anything to make up as there are no rules.

>>10677848
Nanchatte seifuku can be translated as "just kidding uniform." It's basically dressing in a school uniform style without it being a real uniform. Some people attend schools without uniforms, or maybe their school has ugly or strict uniforms, or perhaps they have graduated and miss their school days, so for them nanchatte is like an idealized version of the school experience. Since Japanese school uniforms are quite iconic, many people might feel sentimental about them or like they missed out on a part of youth. Of course many people also just like the way it looks.
There are some standard items like loafers, plaid skirts, ribbons/ties, cardigans, and button-up shirts, but as it is a "just for fun" type of uniform, it's considerably more flexible than real uniforms. For instance skirts might be shorter, or there might be sportier items like the far-right girl in the OP image.
It's important to note that it is not a "sexy schoolgirl" kind of thing so it's better to avoid heavy makeup, cleavage, high heels, stuff like that. Modesty is still important in this style.

>>10677886
dropped winter pic

>>10677878
>>10677886
Thanks

>>10677857
>made up
>translated info literally taken from jp site
you just went full retard

Thanks for the thread. I can't pull off these outfits but I enjoy seeing them on others.

What is the stance on self-posts? I started wearing the fashion but there wasn't a thread for a long time so I'm not sure if it's frowned upon. I've been reading a lot of the archived threads and self-posts seemed pretty welcome there, but those are years old and I don't notice many self-posts in other jfash threads so I'm unsure if things changed. I don't know where else to ask for concrit on nanchatte

>>10678063
Do it anon. Just put a sticker over your face or something so people don't act dumb

>>10678063
People don't self-post anymore because people are scared of the 4chan boogeyman and being associated with this board is seen as a bad thing.

Like the other anon said, block out your face and it's all good.

>>10678063
I think it’s obscure enough that you’d be fine. These kinds of boards don’t attract scrotes/trolls/haters the way the ita thread or bait threads might.

>>10678164
>>10678264
>>10678267
ah, okay. I don't use social media so I doubt anybody could identify me, but I just tried taking some photos and I underestimated how bad my phone camera is. I don't think anybody wants to see grainy blurry flip phone photos so I'll just drop a street snap instead

How do you guys get by on not being sexualized? It's a shame that this is such a cute look but school girls have been fetishized to hell and back that even I can't help but see it.

>>10679451
If you wear a longer skirt, like knee length, it looks more serious and less sexual.

>>10679451
i wouldn’t consider myself a proper nanchatte wearer but i take lots of inspo from it and i do a few things to avoid sexualisation and maintain some modesty.
i almost always wear leg warmers over my socks because they widen the ankle area and avoid the “tapered leg” thing that’s associated with sexiness (idk if this makes any sense lol but basically minimizes your thighs).
most of my skirts are actual uniform skirts from the kids section of thrift stores, so they’re better made and have less of a “cheap cosplay skirt” look. i’m 170cm so i have to be careful of the length but ive built up a nice collection of skirts that don’t look like kids skirts but also don’t look like sex shop skirts lol.
also i always wear shorts under my skirts so even if the wind blows or i fall or smth no one will see my underwear and take it as an invitation to be creepy.
also just generally layering helps. button up shirts and cardigans or sweaters, looser blouses in general, etc. anything that helps your style look less “anime schoolgirl/sexy catholic schoolgirl” and more sweet and nostalgic helps.
also i just try to look unfriendly to men and carry pepper spray everywhere lol

>>10678063
Self posts have always been welcome in nanchatte threads. There's also the discord, it's slow but people generally respond to inquiries

>>10679451
I've looked at common elements of shitty sexy costumes and try to avoid them. Pic related to help show what not to do.

>avoid shitty polyester cosplay quality shirts. They're gonna end up being stiff and transparent. Look for shirts that are cotton, and either loose fitting or just nicely tailored but not tight. Polo skirts are good too
>longer skirts
>avoid thigh high socks as appropriate, esp white thigh highs. Opaque black tights are more conservative, but avoid sheer stockings
>avoid certain colour combinations as appropriate (for example, red plaid are is the most common skirt in costumes, so you might want to skirt it. I do have a red plaid skirt, but I never wear it with white socks which helps)
>avoid high heels, esp pumps. Smaller heels or platforms might be OK, depending on the shoe. You can stick to loafers or sneakers to be absolutely safest
>wear loose fitting outerwear like vests or cardigans
>don't do sexy influencer make-up, stick to kawaii looks (if going to pastel colours, or kogal) or just do more natural makeup

All those help. And you don't have to do all of these in every outfit, for example I wear a fair amount of thigh high socks bc I think they look best on me, I just style the rest of the outfit so that I end up more cute than sexy and it works.

I battled both draconian rules and being harassed/sexualized by random men my entire high school life. Our school was downtown too so we had a lot of weirdos wandering around. Nanchatte is my way of reclaiming the nostalgia and aesthetic that I couldn't have before, but doing it my way.

>>10680036
>also i always wear shorts under my skirts
This is something I picked up from nearly every skirt or dress I wear if not bloomers.

>>10678671
Ew crocs

>>10687503
Honestly I find pastel crocs increasingly cute. They were a meme for years just because they were weird but they almost remind me of Japanese kids' school shoes now.

Cute boots to wear with nanchatte in rain or snow? I have uggs but want some variety.

Does anyone have any sweater vest looks? I'm getting one for work and am not sure what looks best with it.

>>10688715
I personally think sweater vests look best with short-sleeve shirts (if you mean the button down vest kind) but the solid fronts look fine with long sleeves or with your sleeves rolled up a bit. they're really great for spring/fall weather during the interim of summer and winter before pulling out the cardigans! I live in a hot area so I can't wear cardigans and vests much though.

I trawled the net a bit but it was surprisingly hard to find pics of people using vests since cardigans or blazers are much more popular, but taobao brands selling them usually have coordinate shots. They're usually all pretty similar though; vest, shirt underneath, bow and skirt. I feel like vests are much more casual in general.

Does anyone over 20 wear nanchatte?

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>>10689033

>>10689036
no idea what's in her mouth

>>10688871
you are seriously asking this in a thread about a term coined by old office ladies? nanchatte was never about teens

has anyone here ordered from lucypop? their stuff seems really cute but I haven't really seen that many good pictures of it

>>10689176
I have some of their ribbons. They're massive compared to a regular sized one, otherwise they're pretty cute.

>>10688871
Friends and I are all over 20 - in college, grad schools, jobs and still wearing nanchatte.

>>10689039
Looks like mochi with red bean

>>10688863
>>10689033
>>10689036
>>10689039
thanks for the inspo gulls. Feeling a lot better about this sweatervest now.

anybody bought from Segreto Uniforms store on aliexpress? I'm under the impression they're selling factory extras of stuff for japan bc their uniform listings are all listed as cotton or at most poly/cotton blends and i was really interested in that especially for their taobao price (without having to deal w fees and shelling out intl shipping fees too)
they seem to be decent but are still lacking substantial reviews for me so just wondering if anyone here can attest to the fabric use.~
I'm trying to get just one coord together for fun and want to find a middle ground for quality, so thanks~

>>10688871
for like the 40th time, nanchatte came about because people wanted to relive their high school days by wearing their old school uniforms. Obviously these people are gonna be older, so yes.

Does anyone wear it to college? Im thinking of starting to wear it except i wont use a bow and ill always use a blazer (to look more grown up). Thoughts?

>>10695349
>(to look more grown up)
you have to be 18 to post here

also no one cares what you wear in college, at least to class. if you're wearing something besides workout clothes or shorts and an oversized t shirt you'll probably get compliments

>>10695349
I wear it as a grad student. With ribbon and everything.

>>10695349
I've worn it to university, I even had my Japanese prof comment on it. nbd just wear what you like

>>10695518
One of my Japanese professors wrote me a sweet email about how much she would miss my outfits when I had to drop a class because of an overbearing courseload. I wore lolita and jfashion most days and she told me I looked cute and gorgeous in my outfits. It was so sweet.

>>10695524
off topic but anon could i ask about your experience with studying Japanese in uni? i’m on the fence about applying to a joint degree in Japanese/another subject I’d like to study postgraduate, and I’ve heard mixed info about the difficulty and workload of Japanese classes. I generally have a knack for language learning esp with grammar, but I still don’t want to put myself in a position where my grades are fucked bc i took on more work than is reasonable.

i also don’t want to end up in classes completely overrun with weebs bc i generally find them annoying. i know that’s a bit of a stereotype but still

>>10695667
NTA but I did a STEM topic with Japanese. I wish I didn't if I'm honest - many Universities offer extra language modules you can take in the evenings for free, I wish I'd done it that way. And yes - a lot of the classes students are weebs but they tend to drop out quite quickly when they realise it's not an anime club.

The problem with taking a language along with another topic is that you take modules away from the other subject. There's parts of Physics I do not know because I had to focus on a Japanese module instead of, say, Astrophysics. I'm now doing my Doctorate and sometimes have to teach myself parts of the degree I missed out on due to Japanese. It's also worth pointing out that as a postgrad student, I still take those evening classes for free and prefer that to a formal part of my degree.

>>10695667
At my uni most Japanese classes did have weebs but actually mostly the more quiet low key anime fans and people who were interested in other aspects of Japanese culture and whatnot besides just gaming and anime. It was pretty varied. The cringey weebs were the anime or Japanese club kids. I went to a pretty big university though so it could be different for me than a community college Japanese class. I was probably really the most visible weeb as a jfashion wearer. Most people at my uni didn't wear jfashion but the people at smaller schools or local colleges did based on the meets I attended. Probably because my comm was mostly adults with jobs and still is, including me now.

At my university the workload was reasonable for the effort it takes to learn a language. Homework daily to help reinforce grammar, quizzes daily to help vocabulary recognition, occasional writing compositions, normal exams compared to other classes. I got to intermediate level (if you use the Yookoso textbooks the middle to end of the second one) and found it easy to speak minus some regional or informal vocabulary when lived in Japan. All my classmates were really cool and fun to be around and group projects were great.

If you really like Japanese culture and learning languages (I enjoy it and they also come quite easy for me and I'm a grammar nerd) I say go for it. Especially if you plan to study abroad or do JET/similar programs eventually as many programs require some Japanese proficiency on top of other requirements. Who cares if some weeb or whatever is also in the class? I'm a firm believer that you should really do what you want in college and take classes that are fun and expand expand your skills and worldview so long as it doesn't seriously screw your career plans.

>>10695349
I wear gothic to class everyday, nobody really cares and I mostly get compliments.

>>10695667
So at my university (Canada) the Japanese courses were full year courses worth 1.0 credits each. There was an option to do a whole minor, but I just took two courses, which is fine bc my uni requires you do take some science, arts, and social science courses no matter the degree for breadth.

If there were weebs in my class, they were very low key. Not many people wore jfash that I could tell, no one wore it to class. I was one of three white people in my class each time, the rest were Chinese students, most of them international students. The two white guys were very hard workers and were both very good at the language compared to the rest of the class, so I could tell they were taking it seriously. I think there were three classes a week? And we got assigned almost daily homework. We had a vocab quiz every week. two or three bigger tests, and then a final exam. One big composition. Second year, there was a group project which was basically a skit. My group did ours on school uniforms, lolita, and cosplay (it was a 3 person group discussing the topic). Another group did a new report. Another did friends catching up after vacation and discussing places they visited. Etc. fun stuff.

My only regret is that I didn't work hard enough on my daily exercises. I had life stuff to contend with but regardless I could have and should have tried harder. If you're gonna take it, make sure you do all your work! I know that seems like a no brainer but yeah, lol
Also I will note that I heard from other people that in 3rd and 4th year Japanese, there is a huge shift in how you study, you do even more vocab memorization but there is a ton of in class discussion, convo practice, reading comprehension from actual newspapers, etc. And the difficulty just shoots way up to the point even people who did well in years 1 and 2 were struggling. This is just my uni tho mind you

>>10695524
Awww, that is super sweet of her!

>>10695733
My uni was in the US but also did skits! I wonder if there's a really specific standard for the way Japanese language is taught in North America or in general. Everyone I know at a legit university tends to have had similar class structures.

>>10695673
thank you! I’m not doing stem but a subject sort of between stem & the humanities, which language learning is relevant to. the programs i’m looking at are all another subject combined with or supplemented by Japanese— in the UK since you’re applying for a specific program it’ll be BA in xyz AND Japanese, BA in xyz WITH Japanese, etc. so they’re generally subjects that are able to combine effectively.
>>10695718
yeah I don’t mind weebs who are truly interested in learning the language and are capable of acting normal and respectful of course! I’ve just had some bad experiences with sexual harassment from weebs and it’s happened often enough that I’m wary of people who are very into anime/manga.

I’m also a massive grammar nerd and I learn grammar rules pretty easily. I’ve worked a bit on self-studying Japanese and honestly the grammar is not difficult at my current level (I’ve heard it gets trickier later), but the kanji memorization has taken the most time so far. it’s all enjoyable though.
>>10695733
UK unis have pretty specialized programs as opposed to liberal arts style, so I’m essentially choosing between focusing exclusively on the subject I want to pursue through grad school, or primarily focusing on that with a side subject (the common ones for my subject are specific languages). I actually think applying myself to a language and reaching a good level of proficiency might benefit me more than focusing only on my main subject, since I’d imagine it’s a somewhat profitable skill.

daily exercises have been the hardest thing for me to stick with in other language classes so I’m making an effort to get my shit together and form better daily habits. and thank you for the warning about the third and fourth years, I’ll be sure to keep that in mind if I do end up taking it since it’ll be good to prepare for the class to get harder instead of just getting hit with it out of the blue.

>>10695749
I'm >>10695718 and also UK based. I did Physics with a Modern Language (of which I did Japanese). I assume you're going to study Linguistics in which case the combined honours may be useful. But yes, the "with/ and" does take away from the main part of your degree. There's also something else to consider - if I were to have done "Physics and Japanese" course I couldn't become an accredited Physicist as my degree won't have included enough Physics. It's worth checking that if you can gain a type of accreditation from your main subject, that it isn't affected by the language part.

>>10695349
I bought some second-hand winter seifuku (similar to this photo) from Rakuten and wear them with woollen tights. I'm a grad student so was concerned it'd be inappropriate for teaching but I've only ever gotten compliments. I often wonder what school they're from however there's no identifying labels. i've noticed quite a few chinese students wearing nanchatte around my university which is nice to see.

>>10695808
Fellow grad student! I'm also wearing second-hand seifuku as I'm typing this from my office. I had the same concerns initially regarding TA'ing, but no one really cared haha. I do usually stick with western style though, not brave enough for serafuku but maybe one day :')

>>10688613
Honestly for me uggs unfortunately aren't an option bc it gets too wet and slushy. They're also not warm enough when it gets truly cold. I thrifted a pair of boots to wear during winter and they looked similar to these. Pic related are just crappy ones from Walmart but they get the style across. I think I saw some Timberlands last year that were pink and very cute.

Once it gets to -15 C and 2+ ft of snow though, any cuteness goes right out the window bc the cute boots won't keep me warm by then. It's thick wool socks, stompy snow boots rated for the cold, bc where I live buses are notoriously unreliable so if I tried to wait for 20+ mins for the bus outside I'd get frostbite. If you drive, you get to be a lot more flexible.

>>10695808
yes it’s linguistics haha, I wasn’t sure if anyone would guess! since unis all seem very enthusiastic to offer linguistics with various modern languages I’ve sort of assumed that it wouldn’t be an issue, given that all the unis I’m looking at are known for having excellent linguistics programs and the modules they offer look good. thank you for telling me though anon, I hadn’t been aware of this at all and it’s good to know that it’s something to watch out for! since I’m planning to pursue linguistics postgraduate and ideally go into research, accreditation is definitely important.

Does anyone have those art infographics that showed the differences between nanchatte styles over the years?

>>10697371
>>10656096

Ladies, the season of comfy nanchatte layering is upon us! Show your fav fall/winter fits and inspo!
>i-it's almost cold enough in Texas to wear cardigans and light jackets now, I can finally wear nanchatte and be sweat-free...!

If I wanted to make my own uniform, what's the best material for it? Are there patterns for shirts or would any button up work?

>>10702542
Depends. What style of uniform are you trying to make?

This thread just reminded me of me showing my ex nanchatte pics, and she just telling me
>"the fuck you wanna fuck school girls?"
Which is true, but I didn't mean it in that way, I just like the aesthetics 2bh.
She just showed me pretty much the same but with super expenssive brands like gucci and stupid shit like that. Her brain was rotten by celebrity propaganda.

>>10702551
I don't want a sailor uniform. I want something more like >>10693954

>>10702542
Unless you want a jumper style uniform or something in a very particular style, or unless sizing is an issue for you, I don't think the effort it takes to sew is worth it since there's so many options already available.

That said, unless you know how to knit, you'll probably be buying your cardis and sweaters. Shirts should be made out of cotton (you can find specifically cotton shirting) and you can just use any available commercial pattern for shirts, provided it's not a blouse that's fitted too tightly. For skirts, find a tutorial for a knife pleat skirt. there's a couple cosplay patterns that have knife pleat skirts too which you can make in fabric of your choice. If you can find tartan in wool or a wool blend, it's great for winter. Otherwise most skirts are just poly. Make sure the pattern is woven and not printed bc the latter just looks cheap. Box pleat skirts are ok too they're just not as common.

>>10702688
Seconding what >>10702777 said. If you just want the style you linked, it's not difficult to just find pieces and mix and match. There is a thin line between the cute nostalgic look that nanchatte is going for and sexy schoolgirl cosplay, and that's usually in the materials used. Avoid any cheap looking shiny material, make sure pleats are tidy and neat. Clothes are usually a bit boxy and loose compared to typical business blouses and blazers too.

>>10702557
>super expenssive brands like gucci and stupid shit like that. Her brain was rotten by celebrity propaganda.
Wait til you find out Japanese girls want the same shit

>>10677289
Oh wow. I started that WIP neocities website ages ago. I didn't realize anyone could find it. I just popped over on here because I was going to shill my depop, lol. If people are finding it the website helpful I will have to finish it!

Contributing

>>10711253
>longskirt
I love it