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>> No.10611531

The amount of stalking that goes on here creeps me tf out

>> No.10611538

I really hate covid-litas and wish they'd all go away forever. The fashion feels oversaturated and it sucks.

>> No.10611545

>>10611531
You'd be surprised then how much your regular Facebook user stalks, then. You put shit on the internet. It's public. Think about it.

>> No.10611545,1 [INTERNAL] 

I'm 95% sure I've probably been posted on an ita thread here before, but I'm too much of a pussy to try and find it to see what they said.

>> No.10611557

>>10611545
This site is anonymous fb isn't
It's way creepier that people here go out of their way to try and find and stalk others

>> No.10611562

>>10611557

Honestly, even my friends go out of their way to hatestalk people. People are kind of shitty even off this website. I just saw this one professor on Twitter boast how she was stalking students with eponyms, in other schools, just from the diseases they had. This website I think magnifies behavior, but it's not like it's confined to this website at all. People are just kind of shitty in general.

>> No.10611566

I have a crush on a fellow gothic lolita and I'm fairly certain they like me back in a similar manner. It's really conflicting because we're both married but I'm holding back so I don't accidentally screw things up with our friendship. I'm hoping this will pass in time when our countries are out of lockdown...

>> No.10611581

>>10611566
If both of you like each other so much you're even considering this, maybe it's worth getting to know each other a little better.
How is your current marriage and how long have you been married for if you don't mind my asking? I can't imagine it's going so well.

>> No.10611592

my tits have gone from 90-92cm to around 97cm because of some second puberty in your 20s bullshit(it's not weight gain, in fact I'm losing weight) and now I'm scared of having way less options for blouses and cutsews

>> No.10611614

>>10611592
if fatties can find blouses and cutsews with a bust of 120+ cm, then so can you

>> No.10611617

>>10611614
thanks, anon. I hope that weightloss helps to some extent. With this sort of "blouse shortage" apfags are going thorugh rn the changes of finding blouses for a western M/L size has become very difficult. The smaller you are, the better you have it.

>> No.10611619

>>10611592
second puberty in your 20s?? is this a thing

>> No.10611625

I have a crush on a girl who likes lolita so I told her I was thinking about trying it as a brolita. She was way more thriled about it than I expected. It made her so happy to help me make a coord and now I can't tell her how I feel because it would spoil this for her, and I'm her only lolita friend in real life now. So I'm just going to bury my feelings and try to just enjoy our new lolita friendship. We're going to wear complementary sweet coords at a con later and I'm legit terrified of actually wearing it in public

>> No.10611627

>>10611625
i hate you. you're a shitty person and i hope your larp fails.

>> No.10611631

>>10611625
There was another guy who did this some time ago, and the lolita friend ended up trying to find him a bf and of course he agreed to make her happy. Have fun getting fucked in the ass while wearing a dress anon

>> No.10611634

>>10611619
some people don't get out of it until they're 25 or even 30, it's quite common

>> No.10611641

>>10611592
are you me?
>gain corona weight, including boobs
>start working out more
>not losing boobs
>everything else going down
i guess it had to happen eventually...

>> No.10611642

Anons who complain about boobs just need to lose more weight.

>> No.10611644

>>10611641
>it's not weight gain
>gain corona weight

>> No.10611652

>>10611566
I'm in a similar boat. She's pretty far away though, despite my spouse being cool with it.

>> No.10611653

Less of a confession and more of a hot take probably but I'll gladly take a hundred happy taobao itas over one salty brandwhore any day. What's the point of being well dressed and owning a lot of brand if you're just going to be a miserable sack of shit about it? It comes across as an unhealthy coping mechanism for some sort of mental illness instead of a fashion/hobby you actually enjoy engaging in. Maybe spend the money on therapy instead.

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>>10611631

>> No.10611656

Weightloss doesn't always guarantee boob shrinkage (and starvation will leave you with saggy boobs + loose skin, please love yourselves nonnies).

Even if your boobs do get smaller, it often won't drastically change your bust measurements, especially if you just have a wide ribcage - you can be nearly flat-chested and still have a 90cm bust, people have different bone structure and sometimes all you can do is accept it.

>> No.10611657

>>10611656
>wide ribcage
>internal organs covered in fat
The fact that a slightly overweight bmi is considered normal, when in fact the ideal weight is the lower end of a healthy bmi really makes you think how delusional most people are.

>> No.10611658

>>10611657
can you read?

>> No.10611659

>>10611644
can you read? i gained weight but it stayed in my chest.

>> No.10611664

>>10611658
>>10611659
Cope harder piggu-chan

>> No.10611665

>>10611664
Take care and don't die, ana-chan

>> No.10611677

>>10611665
It feels good to be at a healthy weight

>> No.10611727

I ate hella edibles before lolita picnic and tried to act normal but I was bursting in laughter every 5 seconds

>> No.10611730

>>10611653
Agreed. I admit online I would rather look at brand coords, but in when hanging out with a comm I am happy to hang out with anyone who isn't a bitch.

>> No.10611731

>>10611656
how can you avoid loose skin?

>> No.10611732

>>10611731
Lose the weight at a healthy pace and give it time to adjust. It might be saggy for a bit if you lose a lot of weight but it will get better over time.

>> No.10611734

>>10611731
Loose skin will only be a problem if you have 30kg+ to lose, are very short or old.

>> No.10611741

>>10611730
Same anons, same. As long as people are nice and not annoying or mean/rude, I don't care if their taobaolitas, brandwhores, trans, cis, men, gay, straight, conservative, liberal, etc. so long as they can just be civil and have fun.

>> No.10611745

>>10611741
>>10611730
That anon is probably coming on here being frothy at the mouth about '4chan brandwhores' after being posted in the ita thread.

For real, I don't think brandwhores are bitches at meets that often. You guys have a tendency of thinking online = real life personalities and that's just simply not true. However, the disgusting ass attention whores in the community are annoying online for a lot of us, since we're all girls. Which is probably why we get annoyed by troons trying to garner attention in political ways.

>> No.10611748

>>10611745
I don’t care how nice somebody is at a meet if they come on here to start drama afterwards

>> No.10611760

>>10611745
I have never met a fabled "bitchy brandwhore".
And if they were a bitch, it wasn't because they were feeling superior about wearing brand kek

>> No.10611763

>>10611745
Being nice to someone's face irl and then turning around and making fun of them here is the definition of being a two faced bitch though. How you behave online is a part of your personality, you can't just separate it into it's own thing and pretend to be a good person, lmao. Just admit that you're petty and get enjoyment over feeling superior and putting other people down.

>> No.10611765

>>10611760
Is this your first time here?

>> No.10611771

>>10611745
I never said brandwhores were bitchy, I just said I don't care about all the specifics of a person's tastes, identity, etc. so long as they're fun at meets. I guess simply wearing lolita or jfashion to a meet or event is of course a given requirement since that's the whole purpose of meets (which falls under not being rude, as it would be rude and self centered to show up to a jfashion meet not wearing or attempting to wear the fashion), but I just want to socialize and have fun in cute clothes, desu.

I'm probably considered a brandwhore in comparison to people in my comm and I'm never rude or judgemental, don't post people here, and just talk about new releases and whatnot. It's not some requirement that you have to be a douche online just because it's online or /cgl/, people who want an excuse to be mean just tell themselves that. I'm equally as smartassed but civil and polite on cgl as I am irl, idk why people feel the need to either put on a front of niceness in person or decide to be an asshole online.

>> No.10611773

I wish it was socially acceptable to shame fatties who absolutely have to squeeze themselves into moitie.

>> No.10611775

>>10611656
t. never lost more than 5kg

>> No.10611776

>>10611773
Why are femoids so toxic? Lmao

>> No.10611789

>>10611776
fuck off incel

>> No.10611799

>>10611763
Bruh. If you're gonna squeeze yourself into clothing and post it online, then you deserve to be made fun of. Idgaf what you say. Everyone is friendly in person, though. But posting shit on the internet, permanently, is grounds to be made fun of.

>> No.10611802

>>10611799
t. two-faced bitch

>> No.10611807

>>10611802
Salty ass fatty

>> No.10611812

Unless something is actually a good price I don't bother buying anything off LM anymore. Western lolitas always either overprice their damaged smelly clothing or overbid and I see no point when there's plenty of places I can buy used from Japan or new for way cheaper.

>> No.10611813

>>10611799
I get where you’re coming from but this attitude is really why I stopped making female friends in my teens, despite going to an all-girls school and now working in a women-dominated field. I saw my friends doing this in middle school and have never lost my fear that every woman who’s friendly to me is making fun of me behind my back. I’m pretty odd and autistic so that doesn’t help. It’s not like I hate women, I still want female friends, but this fear holds me back.

>> No.10611822

>>10611807
i’m not fat, and nobody said anything about being fat or posting pictures online until you brought it up. stop projecting and work on your self image

>> No.10611827

>>10611822
OK larper. Get mad more.

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>>10611812
>Western lolitas always either overprice their damaged smelly clothing
Why can't western lolitas take care of their clothes properly? Hundreds of dollars for a nip dress only to leave it stained, wrinkled, ripped, and/or stinky.

>> No.10611832

>>10611799
>I'm not a bitch, it's THEIR fault for being ugly they made me say mean things about them wahhh
Yeah yeah we get it, you're miserable and your self worth depends on putting other people down based on their looks, because the only thing you're good at is spending money on clothes and wearing them. Wow. Amazing, brave and stunning.

>> No.10611833

>>10611812
Gonna be honest, the majority of clothes I've gotten shopping serviced from second hand used stores in Japan has smelled like cigs. I don't fucking know what it is, but these damn Japanese lolitas need to stop smoking on shit.

>> No.10611835

>>10611831
Since when are wrinkles damage? Steamers exist for a reason

>> No.10611836

>>10611832
>>10611822
How are you both on 4chan right now.

Oh wait. Samefag shittin up the thread. Be mad more

>> No.10611837

>>10611836
not me. i genuinely hope you feel better

>> No.10611838

>>10611837
get posted cunt

>> No.10611842

>>10611833
Damn really? Everything I've bought (save for one blouse that was ridden with mildew) had clearly been sent to the cleaners

>> No.10611845

>>10611842
Yep. There's always ONE article of clothing that I get in a package that is just.. smelly. It's always cigs though, at least.

>> No.10611848

>>10611838
I wish you'd even come up with something interesting to say, low quality bait-chan.

>> No.10611850

>>10611838
Ntayrt but seek help
There is no reason to be filled with this much vitriol over nothing
You sound like you have behavioral issues

>> No.10611852

>>10611850
Do you even know what website you're on? Try telling your local community you're on 4chan.

>> No.10611861

>>10611566
anon do you like wearing dresses? are you an egg?

>> No.10611893

>>10611789
kys salty bitch

>> No.10611976

>>10611861
most lolitas are bisexual/lesbian women, anon

>> No.10611984

>>10611976
and hardcore manhaters from what I've seen

>> No.10611987

>>10611893
would if i could nonny

anyway confession time, i hate double wrist cuffs so fucking much, and I hate long sleeves with wristcuffs. it looks retarded. like...you realize they're supposed to imitate a sleeve cuff, right? so why the fuck would you wear two sleeves on top of each other??? insanity.

>> No.10611989

>>10611833
Luckily this has never happened to me. Unluckily I now live with a weed and tobacco smoker. The smell is worse than I thought, even thought they don't smoke near my room I feel I can never sell my clothes out of embarrassment this smell sticks on them somehow.

>> No.10612030

I really badly want to ask a guy I'm friends with to wear lolita with me. I don't know why I want to but I want to. I've never said anything because I don't want to be weird.

>> No.10612033

>>10611989
Oof. Make sure you cover your clothing with those dry clean bags, if they smoke in the house. I had some of my lolita in a house where people smoked and it got a yellow tinge, so it's pretty fucked for resale. It yellows everything in the house, it doesn't matter if it's in a closet so I've learned. You have to cover it.

>> No.10612038

>>10612030
Just do it! Worse he can say is no.

>> No.10612039

>>10612033
Ugh will the damage happen even if all my clothes are black? I'll do that just in case thanks anon

>> No.10612040

>>10612039
Yes it will

>> No.10612042

>>10612039
I have gotten cigarette stains out of secondhand dresses by soaking with OxyClean, but I had to do it many, many times.
I had to completely drain the water and squeeze it out between rinses. It is a pain but you can do it.

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>>10612040
>>10612042
at least I see myself always liking and keeping almost all my stuff...why do ppl get addicted to this stinky shit...

>> No.10612045

>>10612038
I just might

>> No.10612163

>>10611852
Cope harder

>> No.10612241

>>10612163
Nothing to cope about, idiot. Everything I say on here is now on you, as soon as you tell someone you come to cgl. Deal with it, nigger

>> No.10612246

>>10612241
Damn you sure got worked up. You definitely need to learn to cope harder.

>> No.10612248

>>10612246
>>Thinks 4chan culture is "being worked up"
Newfag

>> No.10612264

Some members in my comm are whining about how they miss meets. In a way covid was a blessing because I don't have to put up with their dickhead boyfriends, smelly mutts and rancid crotch goblins. Not having to deal with random itas is also a perk.

>> No.10612269

>>10612264
Why do you even go to meets if you hate them so much? No one needs you there.

>> No.10612302

>>10612264
Then don’t go. Find your own small group and hang out with them

>> No.10612304

>>10612248
Keep telling yourself whatever justifications you need to avoid coming to terms with the fact that you're obviously mentally imbalanced
Stay mad

>> No.10612305

>>10612248
Imagine being this autistic. Other anon needs to stop taking your zero effort bait though.

>> No.10612306

I missed out on a forestsong jsk because I my payment took too long to process and I had a delay in my pay. I feel sad.

>> No.10612315

I feel almost insulted when i come across a scalper but if i knew i could get away with selling someone some 80$ used bodyline i would do it.

>> No.10612319

>>10612038
>>10612045
I asked him. After i said i wasnt joking he got all cute and flustered. He is kind of interested but the price tag of getting into the fashion is the biggest hurdle for him, and he thinks it might be too embarassing. I'm glad I asked though. I feel like I can convince him.

>> No.10612322

>>10612264
Why do lolitas drag their partners and animals to meets anyway? It's fucking weird.

>> No.10612329

>>10611812
>there's plenty of places I can buy used from Japan
Not for long.

>> No.10612331

>>10612329
why? because every westener feels the same way and will eventually flood th jp market?

>> No.10612346

>>10612331
>every westener
Even one is enough to start buying all the nice cheap stuff from the JP market and selling it with a hefty markup on LM, given they have enough time on their hands.

>> No.10612363

>>10611987
What do you think about using wrist cuffs to make a long sleeved blouse with plain cuffs fancier?

>> No.10612364

>>10611987
Sometimes I do long sleeves with wristcuffs to extend the sleeves since my arms are too long. I am sorry.

>> No.10612366

>>10611989
The weed won’t yellow and damage your clothing like cigarettes will. My ex smoked heavily in the house and it damaged a lot of my pieces. A lot of yellowing, fabric degradation, and I even have gotten ashes burned into my skirt hems before. Now I smoke weed inside regularly and don’t deal with any of that, I just throw my stuff in a normal wash before I sell it and I’ve never gotten a complaint. You might be able to convince your roomie to go outside but good luck..Inside smokers are usually really bitchy about smoking inside because they can’t be bothered to get one breath of fresh air

>> No.10612388

>>10612264
I feel the same way, which is why I’m a lonelita. Don’t know why’d you’d attend meets if you want to avoid all that.

>> No.10612390

>>10612315
Now is a good time to do this since there’s so many desperate newbies with bad taste

>> No.10612491

>>10611987
I think of wrist cuffs being more like bracelets than a "faux sleeve", what a dumb opinion. It's just to add more frill.

>> No.10612494

>>10612302
Nayrt but how the heck is one supposed to find friends or this "small group" without going to meets and meeting new people?

>> No.10612495

>>10612364
Don't be. Anon's opinion is autistic as hell.

>> No.10612500

>>10611987
Wristcuffs already look retarded, and having two on top of each other doesn’t make a difference. It looks like a second tier of lace.

>> No.10612501

I used moldy cream cheese (with the moldy bits scooped out) in the salmon sandwiches I made for a picnic meet.

>> No.10612523

>>10612501
why did you just hate your comm or are you unaware of how mold spores work?
Please dont tell me you ate them

>> No.10612527

>>10612501
Fake rumor anon.
Hope your dream dress is filled with piss

>> No.10612528

>>10612305
you say as you also respond

>> No.10612577

I saw a girl in the worn thread and now I am in love. I would give it a wager that she's straight but I need to find out everything about her. Who can help me find her instagram?

>> No.10612579

>>10612501
If you actually did this then you're really fucking selfish and gross

>> No.10612580

>>10612577
Reverse image search might help anon
Gl

>> No.10612585

>>10612577
kys madam

>> No.10612587

>>10612577
You're why I won't post my coords online.

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10612658

I hate that lolita isn't about the music at all.
How many of you actually listen to the bands? The music was the only reason I got into it.

>> No.10612663

>>10612658
as a sweet lolita, i'm only really interested in kanon wakeshima, moon kana, and meltia as far as "lolita" music goes. i don't think it's that important. most actual gothic lolitas i've met like moi dix mois and vkei tho

>> No.10612666

>>10612663
>moon kana
based. I actually got to talk to her once very shortly

>> No.10612667

If someone smokes I believe that they are a bad person

>> No.10612669

>>10612667
smoke what?

>> No.10612670

>>10612667
Not bad usually, just dumb.

>> No.10612672

>>10612669
Nicotine products

>> No.10612673

>>10612672
I'm gonna blow fat clouds off of my decoden'd pink vape at the meetup in your honor

>> No.10612683

>>10612673
>not just smoking cigarettes
cringe

>> No.10612684

>>10612683
I used to bring my rainbow cigs to the meetup but they discontinued them :(

>> No.10612686

>>10612684
Sobraine or whatever? I got a pack when I was like 15 and felt like the most fab retard around the bloc (eastern european grey dystopia)
I had just learned how to properly inhale too. My fangirls were in extasy

>> No.10612690

>>10612686
It was Nat Sherman fantasias, they looked pretty much exactly the same though. I'd give all the colors that didn't match my coords to my boyfriend so he'd get shit for smoking green and yellow cigs from his friends lmao

>> No.10612693

>>10612658
Aristo (and sometimes gothic lolita) and the music is so important to me. It’s how I discovered the fashion. Besides Malice Mizer I’m wild about old BUCK TICK, Madeth Gray’ll, Schwarz Stein, and D’espairsray. Only modern vkei groups I listen to are Madmans Esprit and Moi dix Mois.

>> No.10612829

>>10612658
Just because influential artists wore Lolita doesn't make their music Lolita.
Lolita is and always will be a fashion based subculture.
It has nothing to do with music let alone vkei.

>> No.10613086

>>10612501
lonelitas really do got the right idea

>> No.10613096

>>10612829
>It has nothing to do with music let alone vkei.
>let alone vkei
how to say you're new without saying you're new

>> No.10613097

>>10611984
good

>> No.10613098

>>10612658
Only the newfags don't know the importance of music in lolita and spout shit like >>10612829 . Some of us still do. We're probably just not as vocal about it.

>> No.10613107

>>10612658
I feel the same. I got into lolita from attending vkei concerts way back in the day.

I also hate that the western/international community is so blind to what other artists and influences there are on the fashion. Not just stuff like other jfash styles influencing lolita or vice versa (like decora) but things like superflat and kawaii art, 'edgy' cute stuff like Kyary, other media like Little House on the Prairie, non-lolita fashion designers, etc.

That 80s band poster was fucking obnoxious, but I get their agenda-posting when you have retards like >>10612829 now. It sucks that people are forgetting the basic origins of the style.

>> No.10613132

>>10613086
Also why I don't do pot lucks at work or anything else..

>> No.10613158

>>10611734
oh okay, I'm 5'4 and I want to lose like 15kg

>> No.10613269

>>10611659
If you work out by lifting weights, you might have put on too much back muscles, that happened to me before, too.

>> No.10613357

>>10611538
Wtf is a covid-lita

>> No.10613358 [DELETED] 

I've been so obsessed with lolita and having a perfect wardrobe since I was 14. I'm 28 now. That's officially half my life dedicated to this fashion and I still don't have my dream wardrobe, although I do have what most would consider a solid wardrobe- 30ish main pieces- all burando, only a couple that aren't actively on my wishlist, vast majority first choice versions. I'm less than a third to my goal, though. I love this fashion more than almost anything in the world. I just want to be at the peak of the mountain already.

>> No.10613359

I've been so obsessed with lolita and having a perfect wardrobe since I was 14. I'm 28 now. That's officially half my life dedicated to this fashion and I still don't have my dream wardrobe, although I do have what most would consider a solid wardrobe- 30ish main pieces- all burando, only a couple that aren't actively on my wishlist, vast majority first choice versions. I'm less than halfway to my goal, though. I love this fashion more than almost anything in the world. I just want to be at the peak of the mountain already.

>> No.10613360

>>10611984
that is a good thing

>> No.10613376

>>10613359
What do you see as the perfect wardrobe? Is there a set color or theme you stick to?

>> No.10613386

>>10613376
I love gothic, classic, and sweet pretty much equally, so my idea of the perfect wardrobe is having one that involves my favorite main pieces in all three, which adds up to about 70. I have pretty specific taste's within each substyle, though.

Sweet
>lavender or black OTT sweet prints

Classic
>red/navy

Gothic
>pure black or black and white

>> No.10613389

>>10613357
Nayrt but if you’re asking this question you probably are one.

>> No.10613391

I'm trying to lose weight for lolita, but food taste good and I don't wanna move. Honestly, I don't even care that I'm a landwhale, if I can just lose one dress size I'll be happy

>> No.10613392

>>10613391
Just get a calorie counting app and set it to lose 1/2 a pound a week. It is not that big a calorie deficit and you can just keep it up long term. Eventually, you get used to more reasonable portions and it is easy.
If you still struggle with that use an app that lets you track by the week, so if you have a bad day you can make it up over that time.

>> No.10613396

>>10613392
That sounds so reasonable, thank you anon! I really think I'm just not cut out for fasts

>> No.10613461

I’m scared to wear lolita alone again. I used to do it just fine, but crime has gone up in my town and I don’t feel safe anymore. Really fucking sucks.

>> No.10613488

I stopped wearing lolita. I hate the consumer culture within the fashion and I kind of stopped liking how it looks aesthetically. I hate almost all of the new trends, but beyond that I also don’t even like the old things I used to look at as inspo. There are a lot of nice coords but now I see it as something I like other people wearing, not myself. I’m only 23 and I feel too young to have outgrown the fashion. When I was a teenager I thought this was something I’d wear forever because it was so beautiful. Now I’m just kinda like... eh.
I’ve kept around most of my dresses and even picked up a few dream items over the past few years even though I haven’t worn any of it. I only do this because the 15 year old me would have been so happy to have such a big wardrobe of brand and all of these dream items.
Idk what to do because I still think about it a lot, I want to want to wear it and find it beautiful. But I just don’t.
I think it’s something that once brought me a lot of happiness, I haven’t found anything that makes me feel as amazing as I did when I liked and wore the fashion. So maybe that’s why I still keep everything.
Idk. Would love advice or something.

>> No.10613490

>>10613357
Someone who got into the fashion in 2020, during the pandemic. Please use context clues.

>> No.10613492

>>10611812
This except there’s almost no fucking Moitie on the jp market so sucks to be gothic

>> No.10613498

>>10613488
Put everything in storage for a year and see how you feel

>> No.10613499

>>10613492
there is but it sells out immediately seconds after it gets posted

>> No.10613509

>>10613492
Then just buy new moitie

>> No.10613510

BtB is pretty good this week, I’m genuinely loving the revival

>> No.10613511

>>10613509
lol okay try telling sweet lolitas they can only ever buy new AP releases and nothing old?

>> No.10613534

>>10613396
Same, anon. This was the only thing that worked for me. It took awhile, but I haven't bounced back yet either.
The other tip I would have is ignore whatever exercise you do on the app. Like if you go and end up running or something don't add that activity to your calorie calculation.
Exercise doesn't actually burn that many calories and I found if you're not cutting a lot of calories it's better to just use them as bonus weight loss than to try to supplement your eating. Unless you start doing intense exercise like running a lot or weight training intensely. You might have to consider it then.

>> No.10613535

>>10613488
It's normal for tastes to changed. I would agree with the other anon, store it for a bit and see how you feel. If you love fashion maybe another style will catch your eye and you can sell it all for that.
If the love comes back and you miss it no harm no foul.

>> No.10613569 [DELETED] 

>>10611538
>The fashion feels oversaturated
You're free to drop it then

>> No.10613641

>>10613511
New AP sux. I can vibe with this but gothic lolita always was hard to get ahold of, even back in the day. That's why you're seeing nothing in our market.

>> No.10613713

Buy/sell groups are so useless
99% of posts are WTB/ISO

>> No.10613732

>>10613713
This is just straight facts anon

>> No.10614160

>>10611765
Nah but it sounds like it's yours.

>> No.10614169

>>10612658
I also got into it through music and it makes me sad to see most people nowadays are just here because of disney princesses and cute cosplays. I feel like I have nothing in common with most people in my comm and a lot are just insufferable cosplayers.

>> No.10614172

>>10613107
>kyary
are you new and retarded?

>> No.10614228

>>10613488
It's okay to grow out of something you used to love, it is okay to let it go. I agree with the other anons but also don't store it for too long, set a due date so you wont stumble upon the boxes in ten years and may not know what to do with it

>> No.10614239

I've been a daily lolita for 7 years and I still can't tie waist ties correctly. 99% of the time I just take them off to avoid the hassle.

>> No.10614242

>>10614239
I almost never wear my waist ties because cardigans tend to get in the way, but when I do, I like to put mine on a dress form, tie them, then remove them and button them on when I get inside the dress. That way they're tight enough and look pretty.

>> No.10614251

>>10612686
>>10612690
Awh, you guys made me feel old and nostalgic. im so glad i stopped smoking before getting into lolita though.

>> No.10614253

>>10613488
I feel the same way, but it's more like:
>I'm sick of the woke sjw culture and certain hypocrites in the fashion
>I'm sick of people making Lolitas popular on instagram
>I'm bored with the constant blood baths and never getting anything without having to pay out the ass
>I'm sick of people constantly complaining about the fashion and still being in it aka bitching about not being plus size friendly when there are a billion options, being racist and still wearing it, etc.
>I'm sick of not being able to meetup anymore
>I'm sick of getting more support from normies on the street than other lolitas

I'm not asking to be praised constantly and if I look like shit, then please do tell me. However I grow weary of people just shit talking others behind their back instead of just saying 'Your coord isn't good, I recommend xyz'.

Another thing, as much as I hate fatties complaining about the fashion, I too grow bored with people using their fat as criticism. We get it, but they ain't going to loose weight overnight.

>> No.10614255

>>10613386
Thinking kuro & black and white dresses = gothic

>> No.10614256

I barely ever wear lolita anymore even though I used to wear it almost daily. A lot of my dresses haven't been worn for over a year.
When lockdown started I never went anywhere anyway, and nowadays whenever I do dress up at home more often than not I'll change into something less attention grabbing if I have to go to the store or something. I'm not used to the stares anymore and feel too self conscious about it now. I know that covid is at least partially to blame, but still.
The only time I really go out to do something now it's with this friend who is uber normie and doesn't understand the fashion at all. She wouldn't be an ass about it or anything but I know she'd be uncomfortable with the unwanted attention if I'd go out with her in a lolita coord.

Idk, I still love the look but I don't have the confidence and no shits given attitude about it that I used to have.

>> No.10614263

>>10614253
I feel you. Just remember that when we can meet up irl again, most people aren't gulls and most gulls are just lurkers who aren't even talking shit. There may be a couple dicks in your comm, but chances are most people are nice and just as nervous as everyone else. So try to ignore online anonymous gossip, and when a normie says "I love your dress!" Just try to remember that most people in your comm are more likely to be that kind of person. Salty, resentful, mean people are not actually so common irl.

>> No.10614272

>>10614263
You're right anon, I think I've just been indoors too long, and week after week of drama really has me bogged down. Thank you.

>> No.10614346

>>10611760
They exist but don’t be bothered if you ever come across any. Outside of the fashion they’re poor and make bad decisions.

>> No.10614352

>>10613357
Covid-lita spotted.

>> No.10614490

>>10614256
I was feeling this until I began a way of doing exposure ‘therapy’. I began to wear it out with my bf and getting more comfortable to the point where I wore it out with my mom. I try not to do too much of a crazy coord and sometimes I’ll forgo the headbow, but I think it helps. I’m trying to work myself up to wearing it by myself.

>> No.10614508

>>10613492
Sometimes with gothic, it's good to broaden your horizons beyond moitie. The only time i buy second hand is to get old school stuff, i think i've only ever bought moitie second hand once.

>> No.10614551

This is mostly my own insecurities talking, but I keep holding onto my old lolita clothes even though I don't wear them anymore. I can't quite seem to bear to let them go, worried I'll change my mind. And yet I can't even really wear the style anymore. My head is shaved and I like it that way and that just doesn't fit the look of lolita.
Chalk it up to being born a lesbian, but my natural features are very androgynous. Square jaw, tall for a woman, broad shoulders, thin lips... I always felt like I looked like a man in drag in lolita no matter how I did my hair and makeup. The clothes were so beautiful on others, but I felt like a freak. My whole life even before I could fully understand my sexuality I felt like a gross, predatory, imposter around other women. I felt that way at meetups. And I felt like even more of a fake in lolita. I think I just need to accept the style doesn't look good on everyone and that includes me.

>> No.10614597

>>10611727
That had to be cute

>> No.10614598

I am a lonelita because I have severe mental ilness and my paranoic delusion stops me from talking to people

>> No.10614790

Here's my confession: I don't give a fuck whether overweight people wear lolita. I don't get the fat hate. If someone has enough money to buy two dresses and alter their clothes let them. There's never that same level of hate for people who alter their shit smaller. If they're ita, they would be ita regardless of being overweight because they don't want to put effort into a good coord. I don't understand all the fat hate, it's not like sissies where it literally endangers minors and is sexual harassment. I'm so sick of shit being posted to the ita thread when its a fine coord but the person is just fat.

>>10614551
same with people who think they're ugly. I think you could make a unique style of lolita work with you anon. You can wear wigs if you feel really insecure, but you can also wear a veil or wide brim hat too. You can go for a gothic/punk style. If it's time for you to grow out of it, that's fine, but don't stop doing something you love because you don't feel like you're good enough.

>> No.10614803

Whenever someone asks me how I have such a huge wardrobe I tell them it's because I've never needed to sell anything despite being in the fashion for almost a decade, but that's not even close to true. I was just raised by absolutely disgusting people with hoarding tendencies and I am paranoid that everything in my possession is somehow dirty, gross, or smells bad (even though I've obviously since moved out and everyone I've ever asked tells me I'm one of the cleanest, most hygienic people they know).
I spend my days off scrubbing everything in my apartment and most of my disposable income is going towards new cleaning shit instead of lolita, but I feel like everything in my possession is too tainted to risk selling to anyone. I feel like some of my worry is beyond reasonable anxiety after being raised in such an environment but I can't trust my own judgment

>> No.10614808

>>10614803
anon i'm sure your whole wardrobe is cleaner and in better condition than a lot of shit that gets sold as "slightly used" or "in great condition"
it's okay for your clothes to have signs of wear/age, they're clothes :-}

>> No.10614824

>>10611813
I'm also an autistic woman and I felt this paranoia hardcore till I hit my mid 20s. I'm real thankful that I've met cool mature ladies through LARP and cosplay where I live. Non-toxic female individuals do exist, I hope you can find nerdy womyn friends that you can vibe with too one day, anon.

>> No.10614827

I’ve been collecting lolita for 8 years and at this point wear it almost every day and have few normie clothes left. But now I’m in my late 20s, have gained 10 lb since I started and am feeling my age. I used to love how I looked in photos but now think I look silly. I want to get rid of all my lolita clothes and start dressing like those minimalist influencers who wear giant linen dresses and statement jewelry because I really think it would better suit my career and my maturing face and body. But lolita has been my hobby for so long it’s hard to cut the habit of scrolling secondhand sales to pass the time.

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>>10614827
you can always get into mori kei or start buying yohji yamamoto

>> No.10614857

>>10614827
I am scared this will happen to me in a few years

>> No.10614872

>>10614827
The exact same thing is happening to me, except I’ve dedicated even more of my life to lolita. Browsing secondhand sales is getting less and less fun. I have already moved away from having a lot of cute furnishings etc in my home because minimalist style there is more relaxing for me now. I’m wondering if it could also be more relaxing to have a more normie/minimalist wardrobe, and although people at my work have only ever said nice things about my clothes, I wonder if I would be taken more seriously if I dressed more boringly as well. I definitely wonder if I look too silly in lolita now.

>> No.10614874

>>10612363
this sounds like it could be cute. I may actually try it myself!

>> No.10614875

>>10612364
its ok other anon is right lol im just being an autist about it. i think its ugly but my opinion doesnt matter lol you do you boo

>> No.10614876

>>10612491
hmm that's an interesting take. seeing it as a bracelet makes it less weird to me?

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>>10614857
anon unless you're very short, 10 pounds wont matter much. hell, im short and gained probably 30 pounds from when i started wearing lolita as an underweight teenager. i still wear the fashion, i still wear sweet lolita, in my late 20s. i still feel good in the fashion.

nothing against >>10614827, if you dont like the fashion anymore, thats fine! be happy that lolita has a strong secondhand sales community and you can mostly get your money back to start over in a new style. but before doing all that ask yourself

>am i doing this because i want it, or because misogyny has told me women's happiness is restricted in a certain way?
>do i just need to get active/lose a little weight?
>am i not wearing the fashion for fun anymore?

>> No.10614885

>>10614872
Jesus. Are you me? I also have trouble with my desire for lolita, because of wanting people at work to take me more seriously but I work in an office with more of a social side of IT. It just helps to have more "business casual" clothing, but WFH has me just buying lolita again.

>> No.10614886

>>10614877
S O V L

>> No.10614887

>>10614790
If I'm being honest, I love old school sweet. I don't care much for gothic. I also was big into menhera and yumekawaii when that was popular about 4 years ago But I look like a man in a dress when I wear it. I've thought about just making the switch to ouji even though the style doesn't appeal to me. Ouji seems a little more forgiving of freakish masculine looking women like me

>> No.10614888

>>10614827
>>10614872

I completely get that feeling, holy shit.
I was never really drawn to cute furnishings so my living space is completely at odds with what I like to wear, but that feeling of dread that sooner or later time will "run out" for my wardrobe and I won't be able to wear it without coming across as plain ridiculous is always with me (yes, lolita will always come across as ridiculous to an extent, but your apparent age plays a huge role in that too).

>> No.10614898

>>10613391
Unless you're like 20 you gotta work out and diet to lose weight, im about to go out biking for an hour right now, theres no excuse.

>> No.10614917 [DELETED] 

finally got posted to the ita thread a few weeks ago. it hurt at first, but now i don't give a fuck at all what others think of my coords. i wear what I want and if i think someone would post me here when i post my outfit to cof or insta it doesn't scare me anymore, i kinda wish i could thank whoever did it because i'm so much happier now that it's done. i was so worried for so long about it breaking me as a person because ive been here for so long and am kinda attached to this shitty board but it turns out i don't give a shit and like my outfits even if others don't. huh. thanks cgl

>> No.10615073

Since apparently this is controversial, I think Lovely Lor seems like a genuinely nice, chill, and cool person to hang out with. Like maybe the online persona is a farce but I would totally hang

>> No.10615075

>>10614872
DESU I went away from lolita for a while and came back to it, normie clothes are harder to style if you want to wear cute things and usually not as well made. Even decent sustainable brands don't last as long as my lolita dresses. Lolita fashion brings me happiness in a way most other clothing styles just don't.

>> No.10615085

>>10615073
her irl companions beg to differ since they purposely didn't tell her about an event they were doing. she seems like she'd be too tryhard and would get annoying. maybe on some weed she'd be relaxed.

>> No.10615087

>>10615085
I wonder what the tea is on that? What a disappointment

>> No.10615090

>>10615085
What happened was that the event was one where a different YouTuber was filming a video trying lolita for the first time (MissDarvei's black girl tries lolita video) and they didn't want Lor and her experience as a lolita YouTuber to interfere/disrupt the situation or something/didn't want it to turn into a collab or anything.

>> No.10615094

>>10615090
that is so much more boring than I expected but I guess reality often is

>> No.10615116

>>10615085

I thought it'd be because she whips out her camera at every meet without asking anyone if it's ok. She definitely did that to us and we were complete strangers, I'd hate to have my comm on camera for every meet.

>> No.10615118

>>10615094
yeah lor even said in her vid it was kind of a 'no hard feelings' scenario where she was just not doing well emotionally so it made her cry when reacting to darcei's video since she hadn't really known about the event and was already depressed or whatever (and we know now her grandpa was sick for a long time, possibly even back then since he just passed away this year) and i highly doubt anyone in her comm is upset with her or anything serious. lor, like most lolitas, ita, well dressed, or otherwise, is just a boring person with normal boring problems and that's fine, i'm sure she'd be as chill as any other decent human in a comm.

>> No.10615119

>>10615116
i think she'd be someone who would have asked or people would have told her if they didn't like it and she'd have stopped. given how she turned herself inside out apologizing for accidental photo likes and slav squatting, she seems like the type to be super worried if she is making people uncomfortable or bothering them. especially as a lolita who has prolly had to deal with people taking photos or video without consent before.

>> No.10615134

>>10615119

I just literally said she didn't ask us at that event.

>> No.10615137

>>10615134
I have trouble believing this was something that happened in the last 5 years.

>> No.10615139

>>10615137

Well, it was in 2019 at a large event so idk what to tell you.

>> No.10615141

>>10615119
Lor literally she felt bad about whipping out her cam at meets and taking people's pictures without their consent to use as materials for her content. She literally confessed to it in the past, I think it may have been in her horror stories series but I'm not sure.

>> No.10615165

I'm starting to suspect that being in a large comm or publicly into lolita places you in danger from lolitas way more than any other hobby.

It's unhinged the lengths some will go to:
>posting photos
>court documents
>address
>family members' and kids names

it's psychotic.

It's not done by angry incels who want to find a woman or girl to punish for not showing them her tits, it's other egl fashion enthusiasts doing it.

Sometimes you see a random lolita and ask "anyone know her?",
For a person with like 30 followers, other random lolitas will tell you what state, city, comm and what mainpieces she owns.

>> No.10615166

>>10615119
the overapologizing to show what a good person she is - is exactly what makes me think she would not ask for permission to film. because as a good person, whatever she thinks is best to do is good enough reasoning. as long as she thought filming was best for the community and a contribution of content and a beacon for new blood to join, why would she need to ask anybody - she was just doing what she thought was right.

but that's just a theory. sorry not sorry for the rambling, I'm half-napping

>> No.10615167

>>10615166
nah your right, I've seen this happen from "good" people. It's a manipulation tactic, but she's probably getting abused by Holly so she might have learned it from her.

>> No.10615183

>>10615141

Well that's unfortunate then she keeps doing it. Must keep her up at night.

>>10615166

This. I'm pretty sure she's a nonconfrontational person which doesn't help, but she has to put her big panties on and just ask at each event.

>> No.10615185

>>10615165
someone still mad their (public) divorce records got posted I see

>> No.10615200

>>10615185
found the batshit

>> No.10615203

>>10615165
Go back to kiwifarms

>> No.10615213

I have been having the most difficult time when it comes to my behavior. I conduct myself with the upmost grace in how I walk, how I talk, and how I act in general. I do consider myself to be extremely refined in most aspects, but I've been having immense difficulty when it comes to food and drink. I completely despise any sort of traditional lolita item. The main offender is the grass water, otherwise known as "tea", additionally cheese is beyond revolting yet I know how high-class that is, even something simple like strawberries are beyond my ability to choke down from how sweet they are.
I know I must learn to not just tolerate, but enjoy foods like these but no matter how much I try I cannot fathom how anyone could consider such items edible! I just do not know how to force myself to like them.

>> No.10615215

>>10615213
anon just eat the plain cucumber and cream cheese sandwiches. It has no flavor

>> No.10615216

>>10615213
What do you eat on a day to day basis?

>> No.10615218

>>10615216
As much as I loathe to admit it, rather basic foods. For breakfast I have a light breakfast shake, lunch is generally rice, and dinner is usually plain pasta of some kind. During the day I might eat some crackers as a snack and, on special occasions, my beverage of choice is a gatorade.
Generally I keep my meals bland as I have a rather weak stomach and the strength of something like cheese (or even sweets such as chocolates, unfortunately) are often too much for me. Regardless, tea shouldn't cause a problem for me and yet is unpalatable which is likely a problem of personal taste.

>> No.10615222

>>10615218
Your diet sounds so bland and boring. I don't know whether to laugh or just feel bad at your inability to enjoy basic flavors.

Cheese isn't necessarily high class, and tea isn't everyone's favorite given the caffeine content as well. I presume you're a grown adult, and you don't need someone to force you to try new foods "just to see if you'll like them", but taste buds do change with age, so maybe you'll grow to like some other foods.

>> No.10615223

>>10615165
As long as you are mostly sane and not making drama nobody will post your personal info. But knowing everyone's comms and main pieces unfortunately comes with being in a small community like lolita. Not like anyone's forcing you to use SM if you want to stay unknown though.

>> No.10615224

>>10614877
Thankyou for the encouragement anon! I am quite tall actually soaybe I will be okay. I am 25 and only just getting back into wearing sweet after taking a break from it for 2 years, and I regret not getting back into it sooner! I hope I can enjoy my sweet dresses for a lot longer :)

>> No.10615226

>>10615218
>Gatorade
Anon, this is so strange to me. I don't understand how your diet is basically plain bread/grain, because you can't stand things with lots of rich flavor, but then you drink Gatorade which is laced with artificial flavors? Gatorade is repulsive.

I kinda used to be like you when I was younger. I eventually grew out of my super limited tastes by around 25 (even though I'm still a picky eater.) Some of it is exposure therapy. Some of it is isolating foods from thier more complex counter parts (I used to hate avocados because I hated guacamole. But then I found out I loved plain avocados, and everything in the guacamole was just ruining them for me.)

>> No.10615229

>>10615226
I guess Gatorade is just a bit nostalgic for me. It is a little strong but I have fond memories of it which I guess is why I like it. I don't drink soda or anything else like it though.
I suppose I'm only 21, so I do hope I'll grow out of my pickiness soon and be able to eat the more dignified foods.

>> No.10615233

>>10613391
make sure to find healthier foods that you actually like to replace the less healthy foods you've been eating. eg I really like watermelon, more than cereal. So if I try to make sure that I keep watermelon in my fridge, I will always go for that instead of cereal - eating healthy without feeling deprived.

Note that you don't actually need to eat only healthy foods to lose weight, calories are the only thing that matter. It's just that unhealthy food generally has more calories and it's very helpful in the long term to try to lose a taste for it. This way you can maintain your weight loss once you're done.

>> No.10615239

>>10612658
I'm not into lolita for music at all, and I'll continue to listen to dubstep garbage until I die

>> No.10615240

>>10615239
Wow bad taste all around

>> No.10615241

I've made it to my dream wardrobe, and it's more overwhelming than anything. Even though I own a lot, I can never decide what to wear and I don't really feel good about new purchases. I used to love opening up packages, but now it feels more depressing than anything. Maybe it's because I can't go out as much, but I think it's just guilt about owning more than I need. I always end up putting it in my closet and then immediately thinking of what to buy next, so I don't appreciate it. I can't really bring myself to sell stuff, either, since a lot of the stuff I own is old or rare, and the old school market has gotten so much more expensive. Plus it's hard to catch things. I often look at my closet thinking of what to sell, but I can't bring myself to do it. Being a hoarder sucks, and I'm disappointed that I achieved something I really wanted and it's not what I expected at all. Don't get me wrong, I love lolita, but I'm not...proud. I mean, what did I really do? I just stalked markets a ton and spent a lot of money. Anyone can do that, right? Why should I be happy?
Sorry that this is a huge first world problem thing. I understand that I'm very fortunate to be where I am. I feel like anyone else would be happy, but I'm constantly ungrateful.

>> No.10615242

>>10614827
do you smoke? there's no way you look too old for the fashion if you're only in your late 20s otherwise

>> No.10615245

>>10615241
The market is really expensive right now to the point where it's unsustainable. The prices will go down again. Now is actually the best time to sell.

>> No.10615252

>>10611531
just rename your filenames bro

>> No.10615270

>>10615200
maybe don't spend months bullying other girls and then get surprised when it bites you in the ass, it's called karma luv

>> No.10615271

>>10615242
Misako is like 40 and is fine. But also even if you don't look young, you can still wear whatever just be aware that some people will judge you.

>> No.10615294

I'm not a fatty-chan. I've been underweight my whole life actually. But I think lolita has given me an unhealthy relationship with food because due to factors I can't change (the width of my hips and shoulders, my height, my breast size since I can't afford a reduction) I constantly feel too big compared to the petite models in photos.

>> No.10615318

>>10615165
Digging yourself a deeper hole. Are you the one reporting the thread replies of anons calling you out?

>> No.10615328

I threw up from food poisoning on a jsk I don't wear anymore and while I got the stains and smell completely out, I don't feel right selling it. It feels dirty

>> No.10615348

>>10615328
You can always sell it at a steep discount to rid yourself of the dress and the guilt

>> No.10615349

>>10615167
Got any sources on that? Holly abusing her I mean

>> No.10615353

>>10615242
I don’t smoke and I don’t really have any wrinkles yet (except for some fine ones when I smile). But I’ve always had pretty defined features and maturity it making me look even more serious. I just think a more minimalist look would set that off better, especially as I’m moving ahead in my creative career.

>> No.10615356

>>10615134
Did you ask her not to? She may have thought it was okay with her usual comm members since many are active on sm and not stopped go ask newbies/strangers. Many comms are cliquey and people tend to focus on their friends and ignore newcomers unintentionally.

As far as >>10615141 I assume she doesn't do it anymore if she said she felt bad about doing it in the past. Idk the timing and all but I highly doubt the Darcei video was a case of all the established comm members who are friends with Lor being upset at her unless they're immature or not adult enough to tell her no, and it seems like they explained the situation to her later snd she was fine with it. Asking first with pictures or video is obviously better but it's also important to tell people to stop if they're bothering you and may not realize it.

>>10615166
I see it as more that she is so afraid of hurting people or doing the wrong thing that it seems less believable or genuine because the majority of people aren't so obsessed with not hurting others or with what people think of them. I think her emotional fragility is making her kindness feel fake when it actually isn't, she's just a fucking mess holding herself to an unrealistic standard of kindness that is unsustainable for the vast majority of people. I say that because I went through a phase of extreme insecurity when I was younger and I tried to be painfully nice and perfect all the time to make up for it. I can see how someone like Lor might be in a similar boat where she isn't a bad person trying to hide her true nature but an average, very insecure person trying to use having a nice personality as the cure to her internally perceived shortcomings or criticism she may have gotten elsewhere in her life.

>> No.10615361

>>10615349
Holly never abused Lor, people keep making that shit up just cause she liked or retweeted something that people associated with the drama after the whole accidental like thing blew up.

The same people accusing Holly of abuse over a vague tweet or like are the people saying Tyler was a good friend for standing up to the boolies for Lor. Even though Tyler threw Lor under the bus for clout, didn't actually effectively call out the ringleader of the drama, intentionally misrepresented and misconstrued conversations between Lor and her actual close friends, and made the whole video after everything had calmed down just to rile people up and get attention against Lor's wishes.

Tyler did this knowing Lor had an ill family member she was worried about which was the main reason for her break, but pretended it was the bullies who pushed her off social media. All this while gaslighting her into thinking the internet is her abusive boyfriend and Tyler was just saving her from herself because she's too dumb or nice to have independent thought and handle anything on her own.

But yeah Holly is totally definitely 100% the abusive one, not Tyler, the hero of the lolita fashion community who dresses perfectly and never says or does anything dumb or hypocritical and must always be correct because she is mean and salty when she says things so it has to be the truth cause she doesn't sugar coat it, right?

>> No.10615368

I haven’t worn any of my printed pieces in a year. I still love lolita and adore all my solids, but prints don’t really do it for me anymore. I’m still holding on to them because the artwork is nice and I worry that I’ll regret selling them off but deep down I know that I don’t feel the same way I used to.

>> No.10615373

>>10615294
same, nearly underweight but my torso is wide and i'm tall.

i've learned to own the tallness and either show off some leg or get tea-length dresses (i think tea-length looks better on tall-chans anyway). i also wear big ol stompy heels so i tower over everyone. i just wish my torso was smaller.

>> No.10615374

>>10615353
What substyles do you wear? I think defined features often suit more historical inspired gothic and classic really well

>> No.10615377

>>10615373
My torso is wide but I'm short so I just look disproportionately wide. At least you probably look more proportionate.

>> No.10615409

>>10615223
Lolitas are batshit.

>> No.10615411

>>10615368
Same although I just went ahead and sold all my prints and filled the rest of my wardrobe with solids. Feels good.

>> No.10615413

>>10615353
you might need to change how you do your makeup. i found that doing more minimal makeup for sweet now makes me look younger, and i dont wear big heavy eyeliner and fake eyelashes as much as i did as a teen.

>> No.10615417

Here's an actual confession: I mostly wear egirl fashion and identify as an egirl
Lolita is just my side gig
If you hate me you're just jealous cause I'm hot and still look like a teenager at 25

>> No.10615418
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>>10615213
>>10615218
>I'm extremely refined!
>Thinks cheese is high class
>Beverage of choice is Gatorade
Sure, Jan.

>> No.10615419

>>10615409
Fuck off ryuudenki

>> No.10615420

>>10615165
HMMM.

I don't think this is just EGL communities. You haven't been paying attention to the majority of communities or social media in any way, it seems like. That is the climate, today.

Girls are catty as shit though. Majority of SJW cancellers are probably women.

>> No.10615425

>>10615418
For real, the way this bitch talks sounds like an autistic fedora wearing moid. But also, how the fuck is a strawberry too sweet for them but they can drink gatorade which has tons more sugar? I smell a poorly thought out lie.

>> No.10615427

>>10615417
kek keep telling yourself whatever you need to cope with your inability to process that people just think you're cringe, look like a clown, and aren't even a little bit attractive

>> No.10615429

>>10615417
YWNBAW

>> No.10615431

>>10615417
Plenty of girls still look hot/young at 25. That's not a flex.

>> No.10615433

>>10615417
You sound like you may have bpd or npd.
No one cares that 90% of your time you are skin walking Belle delphine

>> No.10615438

>>10615417
>still look like a teenager at 25
This is a funny way of admitting you dress and act immature

>> No.10615439

>>10615417
No one really cares. Also, lolitas are majority below average. It's alarmingly clear why you're into lolita, if you are an egirl. You're too ugly to get followers as an egirl, so you've come into lolita. Got it.

BTW everyone looks young at 25. I'm 30, have the money to buy a shit ton of brand and I look 20. So what are you bragging about? You're probably a poor average looking egirl.

>> No.10615443

>>10615438
kek most people who brag about looking young usually don’t

>> No.10615445

>>10615443
The people who actually get told they look young typically complain about it because it's annoying to have people assume you are a kid or not respect or take you seriously because you look younger.

>> No.10615447

>>10615445
100%.

>>10615439
I'm this anon and I work in an office/business environment and it blows to work with older people and not have them take you seriously because you look young.

>Look old
>Successful and make a lot of money

>Look young
>No one takes you serious enough to not discredit you because ageism is a problem in our working world.

Pick one. Until you get older or emphasize towards a more technical/solo job, you're not going to make a lot because of misogyny+ageism.

I still make a lot, but I could be making more if I looked like a fucking granny.

>> No.10615448

>>10615445
Seriously though I'm sick of having people ask me how school is going or getting hit on by high schoolers when I'll be 30 in just a few months I just want to be seen as the adult I am and not a teenaged child

>> No.10615453
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Brolitas are based

>> No.10615455

>>10615361
fucking this, thank you anon

>> No.10615456

>>10615453
they would be if they all looked this good

>> No.10615458

>>10615453
The only brolitas that look good are Asian

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>>10615453
>tfw no brolita bf who would understand me and share this passion with me

>> No.10615462

>>10615458
Based?? Never made this connection but it's so fucking true.

>> No.10615464

>>10615462
It's probably because Asian men tend to be better crossdressers overall, Asians tend to put more effort into hobbies or whatever a lot of time, and Asia is more heteronormative so to not appear to be a fetishist men have to try harder to not be completely rejected by women in the community since the gatekeeping is likely more hardcore as far as keeping men out.

>> No.10615465

>>10615458
This. Majority of brolitas aren't asian or are gender specials. The majority look like shit. Especially the gender specials, because they are in the box of "can do no wrong" so they always look like crap, because they get ass patted for looking like a 50 year old fat woman at the end of their prime.

Troons are killing lolita.

>> No.10615478

recently wearing lolita has become really overwhelming, i don't know if its just not the fashion for me, or if i'm wearing it wrong but it just feels like so many layers and so much weight. I need to know if i'm not alone in this lol

>> No.10615480

>>10615462
It's because Asian men are the most effeminate looking
Asians have more delicate bone structures and are far more capable of androgyny as well as the fact that they have much finer body hair that's easily ridden

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If fat "muh plus size" scrotes are allowed I think troons like pic related should also be allowed.
Both ruin the fashion equally as much

>> No.10615484

>>10615213
Cheese has historically been eaten as a staple of the poor. It's far from high class.
Education is a key component of refinement which you clearly lack.
No amount of flowery language is going to hide the fact that you're obviously from a low class background. You can go ahead and give up your pretty princess larp.

>> No.10615486

>>10615483
>remembers folks, eVeRyOnE cAn Be KaWaIi
Thanks Jo

>> No.10615487

>>10615483
I don't want either in my fashion.

>> No.10615489

>>10615213
>upmost

>> No.10615491

>>10615453
Asian brolitas are fine. The rest are cringe

>> No.10615493

>>10615453
I don't care if scotes want to wear the fashion as long as they
Don't turn it into some fetish thing
Don't think it makes them women
Actually put some effort into a decent coord

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10615494

Sometimes being in this community makes me want to go full femcel. I would never because I like women but fucking hell do some of you need serious help.

>> No.10615495

>>10615483
No

>> No.10615498

>>10615493
You're forgetting this part:
>Use it to get close to women that they want to fuck/date
^This one is one of the creepiest. This isn't limited to single people, either. Men fucking suck and I've had too many that are in relationships come onto me.

>> No.10615502

>>10615165
Everything seem to be public nowadays. Don’t post your personal info online and get mad that people tracked info down. This is the internet and nobody gives a shit.

>> No.10615504

>>10615483
ot but I seriously think this guy could fool everyone if he would put a sticker on his face because he does make okay-ish coords, but it's too late now

>> No.10615506

>>10615504
The guy is absolutely based and very well accepted by a big part of the community.
Yeah he's ugly, physically repulsive and very obviously an old man. Not the super sweet old man type either since those don't troon themselves, but he's got good coords and is polite.
Even Hizaki is starting to look like a troon because of age and deep voice now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gTedsOjwFs


Creepers need to be publicly shamed and excommunicated permanently from the community though.

>> No.10615579

>>10615213
>>10615218
Please don't think I'm making fun of you, but have you considered that you might be autistic or have a sensory processing issue? Being a very picky eater is sometimes a sign of this, and also the way you type makes me think this as well. I'm not a doctor but it might be worth looking into. I mean this sincerely, not in the 'hurr durr autism' meme way you see on 4chan usually.

>> No.10615590

>>10615579
They are almost certainly on the spectrum based on how they talk, the fixation on a specific aspect of lolita and behavior like being what they think is refined, and the food sensitivities that don't actually follow logic.

I once knew an aspie who had food aversion that got worse when he was more stressed or he and his wife were arguing, but when he was emotionally okay he could try new things. He claimed his senses were just so much more intense than normal people he could not eat foods with strong flavors or texture or variation in either. But he could eat chocolate chip cookies with ice cream, pizza, cheesy pasta with tomato sauce, and more foods that have way more variation in them than his imagined threshold was, and drank milk instead of water despite that being far more flavorful than water. When he was doing really well his wife managed to convince him to eat a single tortilla chip.

Reminds me of this anon claiming they can't stand sweets like fruit or chocolate but they can drink gatorade which is far sweeter than some fruits or a piece of dark chocolate. No real logic in their explanation of why they can handle some foods but not others.

>> No.10615595

I convinced myself I liked pastel sugary sweet toy prints but then learned I didn't like wearing it and actually preferred other lolita themes. Now every time I see pics online of people in cutesy pastel sweet I feel kind of jaded toward it and less excited than I get about other coords and I feel bad about it since they didn't do anything wrong.

I like casual pastel fashion and jfashion and even brand pieces in non lolita coords that are pastel and colorful and cute, but for some reason I feel very done with OTT pastel sweet lolita and yearn for the days when chocolate and marine prints reigned supreme.

>> No.10615601

>>10615590
It's called being a spoiled brat. Lots of upper middle class and rich parents tried to get their kids into slots at colleges designated for marginalized/disabled students by taking them to psychiatrists that would give a nice label to bad behaviour.

>he's not an asshole, he just has Oppositional Defiant Disorder... which is characterized by being "often angry and resentful", " often spiteful or vindictive", "deliberately annoys or upsets people" and "Often blames others for his or her mistakes or misbehavior"
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/oppositional-defiant-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20375831

>He's not uninteresting as a candidate he is just autistic! He played video games while other candidates played sports competitively, volunteered and participated in state competitions not because he is lazy but because it is his Special Interest. My poor baby!! He is so unique and special, he deserves this spot much more than a dirty poor

>She's not a shitty kid with no boundaries and aggressive! Poor thing is suffering more than you, she has conduct disorder!
It's not her fault she was born this way, she has schizophrenia too which makes it really hard for her to live (there is high comorbidity between the two), she has a unique perspective!!
Symptoms: Has used a weapon that can cause serious physical harm to others (e.g., a bat, brick, broken bottle, knife, gun), Feels no remorse or empathy towards the harm, fear, or pain they may have inflicted on others, raped/molested people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conduct_disorder

It started popping up much more with destigmatization of mental illness and deinstitutionalization. Most of these kids grew up in a hug box because you can't call out their bullshit without looking like you hate the disabled, it's also why they talk out their ass about food sensitivity that is illogical.

Because they aren't actually disabled, they're faking it for gibs and special treatment

>> No.10615607

>>10615601
The videogame point isn't exactly relevant, you can have a career and grow into a well adjusted adult despite liking gaming.

But the food shit, as someone who grew up in an Asian household, it's the most mystifying shit to me that people go their entire lives without their parents making them eat a single vegetable or fruit. Like were they never home? Did they just let their toddler steamroll them with tantrums whenever they wanted something? My parents would have let me go to bed hungry or took me to a doctor or had a cousin or something at least talk to me to try to get me to eat even if they weren't the type to force feed us or anything. People who were allowed to never eat normally for their entire lives were being neglected hardcore or borderline abused for their parents to give so few shits about their health.

>> No.10615621

>>10615595
Just because there’s a sweet boom it doesn’t mean you can’t wear other prints and patterns that appeal to you?

>> No.10615622

>>10615621
That wasn't what I was saying at all, anon. I do wear other themes and styles now for years.

>> No.10615624

>>10615607
Asians actually force their kids to grow up with standards. Some white liberal moms think that raising their child as a burden on others is not only okay but commendable, but Asian households (typical) place a lot of responsibility on their kids.
One exception is if you're the only grandchild on both sides, then you kind of become white in how you're raised and what you can get away with.

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I fucking hate how polyester feels, or at the very least the blend Meta uses. I had to sell my Dear Friends JSK because the feel of it was terrible. Now this cute ass dress is set to drop and it's 100% poly, I hate this

>> No.10615629

>>10615627
I saw it and actually like the print more than the latest AP strawberry bunny print, but the polyester was a dealbreaker. I have only ever felt AP poly and it was bad enough I don't want to risk it with another brand so I only buy new releases if they are cotton.

>> No.10615644

>>10615607

As an asian, I was about to post a very similar rant. If we didn't like something, tough luck because that's what we are eating. My brother hated sandwiches growing up, but actually developed a tolerance for it because it was an easy convenient food so that's what we made for lunch. I have a reasonable palate today and I love exploring food, and I can't help but feel sorry and a bit of contempt for everyone who "can't" eat anything but chicken nuggies and fries.

>> No.10615649

>>10615629
I'm so tempted, but meta's poly doesn't photograph well so I can't tell how shitty it is in RL

>> No.10615686

This thread is already extremely off the rails but as a diagnosed autist I just want to say you can be a picky eater and not make it other people's problem.
>>10611642
You clearly don't have dense breasts. Mine are dense to the point of being hard. I'm ana-chan levels of underweight and still have d cups because it's all weird ropey/lumpy breast tissue and not fat

>> No.10615710

>>10615119
>slav squatting
Holy fucking shit, is this considered offensive now?

>> No.10615714

>>10615710
Everything’s offensive now if a white person does it

>> No.10615718

>>10615710
yeah because black culture is prison culture and thats a prison squat according to sjws

>> No.10615734

1/5 of my lolita wardrobe (maybe 20ish dresses? i have around 100) was bought for me by someone from the internet when i was a teenager. i didn’t exchange nudes or do anything sexual at all, so there’s that, but it’s still real weird and i wouldn’t tell anyone. they probably lurk here lol

>> No.10615759

>>10615213
Are you an autistic fat guy? Why do you type like that? Don’t bother learning to like tea and charcuterie, we don’t like unkempt fatties in vests whether they eat fancy food or not

>> No.10615763

>>10615718
Imagine. They've called everything an appropriation now.. lol. Gotta always find something new to be mad about and make it seem like it's not the fact they have 12 foot long stick up their ass, instead.

>> No.10615778

>>10615734
give me their contact info

>> No.10615782

I like buying taobao stuff. Even though they're super low quality, I feel like I can wear them everyday without having to worry about clothing care too much. Washer, dryer, done. Plus if something looks weird, I feel less guilty about tearing it apart and fixing the dress so it looks/lays better on me.

>> No.10615805

>>10615686
You really are dense

>> No.10615893

>>10615782
Tbh same

>> No.10615964

>>10615782
But taobao is more likely to fall apart from a washing machine and dryer. Just buy brand made of fabrics that are easier to take care of.

>> No.10615966

I was bullied pretty badly by some straight girls for being a lesbian in high school.
I was treated like a predatory monster even though I never even kissed someone.
I was out and proud back then. Now I'm back in the closet.
I'm terrified of the other girls in my comm knowing. I know people are more accepting now, but I don't want them to look at me differently.
I don't want to be treated as a sex freak again. I've been avoiding relationships entirely because I feel like as long as I can stay single I won't raise any questions.
I also have a weird little crush on a definitely straight girl in my comm but I've told no one about it (except /cgl/ I guess now)

>> No.10616120

>>10615966
you literally are in the gayest fashion there is. Get bumble and get licked

>> No.10616171

>>10615966
date me nonny I'm desperate for a lolita gf to wear cute coords with

>> No.10616172

>>10615966
Lolitas are mostly lesbian.

>> No.10616175

im thinking about completely withdrawing from the lolita community. I'll never stop wearing the fashion but the rampant consumerism and drop in interesting releases combined with the online comminity being insufferable as a whole makes me want to leave all online spaces. plus my local comm is entirely beyond dead, I've never even seen another lolita in person and I've been wearing it for over three years now...it just feels like I might as well just dig in and become 100% lonelita. i just keep hanging around cause i really desperately want a friend to dress up with. then again the internet isn't doing me much good on that front anyway, maybe i should really just leave. no one would miss me. idk. i love this fashion but i hate the community so much.

>> No.10616181

>>10615478
Depending on climate it may also just be the warmer weather. Maybe try more lightweight materials, for me replacing the aged elastic in everything to be just below my measurements made my clothes go from comfortable (or so I thought) to being like not wearing anything at all.

>> No.10616206

I love seeing morbidly obese lolitas post about not being able to fit into dresses. I’m not even an ana chan but it still brings me so much joy to know I can fit in them and they can’t

>> No.10616376

>>10616175
do it. i 100% recommend it. been this way for years save for the occasional visit to seagull land and never regretted it

>> No.10616460

>>10616175
This hobby should be enjoyable and you have right to association with people who fit your standards

>> No.10616492

>>10616206
immaturity

>> No.10616892

>>10615734
how did you get them to do that? asking for a friend

>>10616172
I don't know about that, but it's definitely disproportionately lgbt

>> No.10616919

>>10616892
i didn't set out for it to happen, we were just really good online friends who bonded over super cute stuff. he really appreciated lolita but since he isn't a girl or a sissy or into wearing dresses or whatever, he got it for me instead.

it's probably better to just get a bf (or gf... whatever) who'll buy you what you want t b h. because he ended up getting a girlfriend but still wanted to take care of me and that became a very messy situation i had to exit from.

>> No.10617002

I'm getting more and more tired of largely overweight western people complaining and bitching about japanese brands not catering to their sizes, it reeks of glutton and entitlement and it makes me feel secondhand embarrassment

>> No.10617017

>>10617002
>secondhand embarrassment
I get so embarrassed when I see people comment directly on AP's FB and Instagram complaining about sizes. I have no idea what they think they'll accomplish by screaming into the void.

>> No.10617019

I’m gay and I’m a Lolita that wants a Lolita gf. I’ve wanted to reach out when I see Gulls here looking for Lolita gfs but I don’t know that I’m their particular brand so I just sit there twiddling my thumbs

>> No.10617020

But yeah so I posted on the feels thread to but I’m a kind of a chubby black girl who used to be a whale and lost a massive amount of weight, got diagnosed with anorexia and had to drop out of my second degree program so it’s been surprisingly difficult to lose my recovery weight but ANWYAYS I’m moving to NYC mid July or august 1st, I am about to start working full time as a stylist but I’d like to go to bunka in Tokyo for my design degree. I’m a cancer also by the way. But yeah if you’re interested hit me up lol (I have some what of a baby face I get accused of being really young often but I swear I’m 25 and my minimum age is maybe like 23 at least)

>> No.10617274

>>10617020
I hope you find a gf

>> No.10618476

>>10615601
weak bait

>> No.10618821

>>10615218
ARFID chan