/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

thinking of getting the moitie placemat to use as a full desk mousepad for my PC setup but i'm worried it'd be too slippery

>>10565054
I don't think that would work

>>10565054
It's way too small to be a full desk mousepad. Maybe you could fit a keyboard on it if it's tenkeyless or smaller

>>10565054
Most deskmats aren't smooth at all, they have a bit of a bite for the mouse to track, this item reads more like a dining table placemat.

>>10564854
You can't see it in the OP photo because it's on his left hand but in the video, does anyone know what the ring is Mana's wearing with the long rectangular black gem? Is it Moitie?

Unabashedly ripping this from the classic thread: >>10565147

>Which sorts of gothic items are you mostly into purchasing currently- collecting older releases you missed out on, or new releases?

>What gothic brand's items do you buy most often these days (either new or secondhand)?

>When was the last time you made a secondhand purchase of classic from the western market? The JP market?

>When was the last time you bought a new gothic release?

>>10565351
>>10565358 here and since I also wear gothic I thought I'd reply here too.
>Which sorts of gothic items are you mostly into purchasing currently- collecting older releases you missed out on, or new releases?
Mostly new releases as the secondhand market has been very dry recently.
>What gothic brand's items do you buy most often these days (either new or secondhand)?
Nowadays I mostly buy MMM, both new and secondhand, though I recently found an interest in both Atelier Boz and Sheglit. I really love the Isaac Jacket OP but I don't really have anything that would match it in my wardrobe so I'm still on the edge about buying it.
>When was the last time you made a secondhand purchase of gothic from the western market? The JP market?
A year ago from the western market. Maybe two months ago from the JP market.
>When was the last time you bought a new gothic release?
A month ago, Candelabra Rose Ring from MMM. Eagerly waiting for those Side Flare Pants as I also wear EGA.

>>10565351
>Which sorts of gothic items are you mostly into purchasing currently- collecting older releases you missed out on, or new releases?
Mostly older releases, though I buy 3-4 new main piece releases per year.

>What gothic brand's items do you buy most often these days (either new or secondhand)?
Mostly Moitie and Sheglit

>When was the last time you made a secondhand purchase of gothic from the western market? The JP market?
Western - this week, an accessory. JP - about 3 weeks ago, a JSK.

>When was the last time you bought a new gothic release?
I bought some of the new Moitie novelties last week, as I'm in the salon. Besides that, I bought a new Sheglit JSK last August.

>>10565351
>Which sorts of gothic items are you mostly into purchasing currently- collecting older releases you missed out on, or new releases?
Older releases, I'm really not a fan of neo-Moitié and I haven't been impressed enough to pay full price for any offerings from gothic brands in the last 18 months.
>What gothic brand's items do you buy most often these days (either new or secondhand)?
In order of frequency my top 3 would probably be BPN (my blouse and short jacket collection), Atelier Pierrot, and H.naoto
>When was the last time you made a secondhand purchase from the western market? The JP market?
Western market would have been over a year ago, jp market November.
>When was the last time you bought a new gothic release?
Years ago, maybe 2016

>Which sorts of gothic items are you mostly into purchasing currently- collecting older releases you missed out on, or new releases?
Always searching for old stuff, but Im at the point where I can focus on new a lot more.

>What gothic brand's items do you buy most often these days (either new or secondhand)?
Moitie mostly. I dont like Atelier Pierrot much and sheglit is boring. Boz is interesting though so I may look at them more soon.

>When was the last time you made a secondhand purchase of gothic from the western market? The JP market?
I bought some stuff on LM in Jan, and recently I bought a dress off CC.

>When was the last time you bought a new gothic release?
Last week, bought Moitie from presale.

>>10564854
teacup bloodbath would be a good band name

>>10565387
>tampon teacup associations

>>10565351
>Which sorts of gothic items are you mostly into purchasing currently- collecting older releases you missed out on, or new releases?
I buy new and secondhand equally

>What gothic brand's items do you buy most often these days (either new or secondhand)?
Moitie and Boz. Moitie accessories and Boz main pieces lately, but I'm hoping Moitie puts out some more main pieces soon.

>When was the last time you made a secondhand purchase of gothic from the western market? The JP market?
A couple weeks ago on the western market and a few days ago on the JP market. There were months when the market was super dry but it picked up a lot in the last month for me.

>When was the last time you bought a new gothic release?
I pre-ordered the Carol OP from Boz a couple weeks ago.

>>10565351
>>Which sorts of gothic items are you mostly into purchasing currently- collecting older releases you missed out on, or new releases?
I keep an eye on both and buy anything I'm interested in.

>>What gothic brand's items do you buy most often these days (either new or secondhand)?
MmM, then equally Sheglit/AtePie/Enchantilly

>>When was the last time you made a secondhand purchase of gothic from the western market? The JP market?
Western last year?, Japanese last month. I get most of my secondhand gothic from the Japanese market.

>>When was the last time you bought a new gothic release?
MmM Nun Mini OP in the MTO.

>>10565351
>Which sorts of gothic items are you mostly into purchasing currently- collecting older releases you missed out on, or new releases?

Mostly second hand, but since I started working full time I’m able to splurge on new more often now.

>What gothic brand's items do you buy most often these days (either new or secondhand)?

Still Moitie, though I have some Boz and AtPie, both of which I love. I also like BTSSB’s oldschool gothic, sue me. AATP is trash though

>When was the last time you made a secondhand purchase of gothic from the western market? The JP market?

Western market - bought a Moitie skirt in comm sales this month. JP market - a big CC haul at the end of last year of mostly AtPie, Boz and Miho Matsuda

>When was the last time you bought a new gothic release?

I just preordered Boz’s Carol OP so I’m super excited for that. Hoping to make an Antique Beast order soon when she reopens too!

>>10565351
classic thread OP here and I also-also wear gothic! Here's mine:

>Which sorts of gothic items are you mostly into purchasing currently- collecting older releases you missed out on, or new releases?
I'm looking to buy up a lot of new stuff, mostly because I don't think the older items I'm into are ever going to fit me and newer items have more generous sizing (88cm bust seems difficult for a lot of old Moitie, and my favorite old cuts are 82cm bust OP's)

>What gothic brand's items do you buy most often these days (either new or secondhand)?
I've been buying tons of Sheglit lately.

>When was the last time you made a secondhand purchase of gothic from the western market? The JP market?
A couple weeks ago for western and I honestly can't remember for JP, it was probably pretty long ago now.

>When was the last time you bought a new gothic release?
I snapped up the restock of the Sheglit Briar Rose dress last week! Was really happy to see that as I regretted not buying it the first time.

Tried to get the teacup, as expected it was an impossible task. The wunderwelt site just crashed immediately as it went on sale and I only managed to keep it in my cart for a while and couldn't make it in time to pay because of the crashing. Congrats to those who got it, it's a gorgeous item.

>>10565753
I too was refreshing for teacup feelsbadman

It looks like the cross necklace wasn't released ?

>>10565863
It was.

>>10565863
The stuff that sold out immediately doesn't appear unless you show all, I assume

>>10565863
Do you mean this one? It shows on the page for me?
>https://www.wunderwelt.jp/en/fleur/products/a-00287

>>10565351
>Which sorts of gothic items are you mostly into purchasing currently- collecting older releases you missed out on, or new releases?
I prefer newer releases because i can't be bother to deal with how dry the market is
>What gothic brand's items do you buy most often these days (either new or secondhand)?
Moitie and atelier pierrot.
>When was the last time you made a secondhand purchase of classic from the western market? The JP market?
I would say almost a year ago for the west market and half a year ago for the jp market. Most of the stuff that really appeals to me tends to be really sought after and too expensive for me.

>When was the last time you bought a new gothic release?
in november. I've slowed down on buying lolita because i work less hours and have less money. I am also focusing on getting blouses and accessories rather than main pieces and so far i am not feeling anything.

>4hen fast fashin eg lolita 100% massmade
i feel disapoint that there is 0%of DIY or even buying vintage jewellery

>>10564854
https://discord.gg/eJv6S9QJ9a

How long does it usually take for Atelier Boz to answer to messages? I¨'m trying to preorder the Carol OP.

>>10567486
any anons want to post pics of jewelry? I'd kind of like to see what sort of things everyone has.

>>10568530
Europe here.

Various rings made out of pewter, sterling silver, stainless steel (good for everyday wear).

Part of them bought at jewelry fairs (best way to find handmade single unique designs or very short series or from more exotic places and various natural gemstones) other from European alt brands Alchemy Gothic (well known UK brand, they come with Svarowski crystals, mostly made out of pewter), Et Nox (Germany, mostly silver and stainless steel). I'm currently looking for vintage pieces in local jewellery shops.

Brand to avoid at all cost: Restyle(PL) - items made from low quality materials for sold for high price

You may also look into "ethnic" style likie Tibetan, Tuareg, Berber, Arab etc if you are looking for a single piece that will add some "stand out" quality to your outfit.

Sometimes you can find interesting rings even in places like biker shops if you are into skull motive. I just found picrel looking for rings.

>>10568530
Most of my jewelry collection is necklaces. I have skinny wrists and fingers, and I fidget a lot, so rings and bracelets tend to go missing.

Here are most of my better pieces. I have pieces from Néant Glass, Macabre Gadgets, Alchemy England, Arcana Obscura, Killstar (not good quality but was on sale), vintage, and Moi-même-Moitié. The MmM necklace and choker were DIY'd from a pair of earrings.

I like to window shop on Etsy too. There's some cool small jewelry shops I can list if someone is interested.

>>10567637
They take quite a long time.

>>10569029
I'm interested in shops! I always need more cross necklaces

>>10569206
Here's my Etsy shop list with some examples of jewelry motifs they sell. I can't promise many cross necklaces (as you can see, I only own one) but I hope this helps!

LoitsuCrafts - branches, abstract, pagan symbols
VampireGothic - lots of vampire fangs, moons, ribcages, skulls
MoonSerpentJewelry - folklore creatures, plants, pagan symbols
MenageDetroit - industrial inspired, skulls, crystal orbs
FreyjaJewels - folklore creatures, animals, skulls
Torvenius - pagan symbols, satanic symbols
OfelWay - moons, animals, abstract designs (stained glass jewelry)
MajesticMenagerie - crosses, gemstones, random variety
PurgatoryPlaythings - lots of teeth, bones, eyes
WaxPoeticShop - roses, crowns, cameos (wax stamp jewelry)
TierraNegraJewelry - hearts, swords
MarthaRotten - crosses, religious, bones, animals
Hibernacula - animals, bones, alchemy, anatomical hearts
MyInspirationJewelry - flowers, moons (embroidered brooches and necklaces)
DefyJewelry - skulls, skeletons, animals, objects
openthecellardoor - moons, swords, snakes
FromBeyondDolls - Lovecraftian creatures, animals, plants
Hvitolg - folklore creatures, animals, plants, moons
DarklingBeloved - crosses, swords, moons, gemstones
vranaraven - animals, plants, abstract designs
VermeerJewelry - carved pearl skulls, pearl roses

>>10569301
>VermeerJewelry
The carved pearls are so cool! I've never seen that before. Thanks for sharing!

Atelier Boz is rereleasing the popular Giulietta Mini OP in black x white.

¥ 27,280 inc. tax

M size
Bust 86cm
Shoulder width 40cm
Sleeve length 59cm
Length 93cm

L size
Bust 93cm
Shoulder width 41.5cm
Sleeve length 60cm
Length 94.5cm

Outer material: Polyester 65% Rayon 35%
Lining: 100% polyester

>>10569029
Off topic but this pic gave me chills! I used to own such a pearl bracelet as a child and was thinking about it's whereabouts just the other day.

>>10568530
I have a few pieces of Motie jewelry and like most of brand jewelry it's hardly worth the price tag. Especially my bracelet is comically cheap quality but I got it second hand for low bucks many years ago, so not much regret.

If you go for brand you should definitely take a look at Baby and AatP, my pieces from them are by far the best quality of all.

Vivienne Westwood has some pieces that work well with Gothic.

And if you can get a hold of it on the secondhand market I suggest Suppurate System (picrel sorry for the low quality). The items were hand made, that's why there are mixed reviews but all the stuff I saw in rl was beautiful. I forever regret not getting something while they were still active. I've read somewhere that they reopened but with a different name, I really don't know.

>>10570337
Forgot the pic like an idiot

>>10570311
God this dress is cute

>>10568530
I don't have any worn/IRL pics on me but I like Necrosarium a lot. I bought from her when she was new because it reminded me a bit of Supperate System and still have the pieces today. They've held up quite well for how delicate they are, and after another thread reminded me about her I purchased some new pieces, and her craftsmanship on the resin polymer roses has gotten way better. I think she also does custom colors.

>>10569029
>That neant glass necklace
I'm so jelly that looks so nice

>>10570444
She’s doing another MTO next month, if you’re hoping to get one!

>>10570462
Oh fuck I had no idea thanks nonny!

>>10570462
da but do you know if the rings will be included in the MTO? was hoping to get one of those

>>10570311
I want to see a rerelease/restock of the Marianne OP. Love the high button up neck on this one. It'd be lovely in all black, too.

>>10570462
i really wish she would rerelease the window-shaped necklaces that she had for Halloween, but I have a feeling we'll have to wait a whole year for them because they're a holiday special

>>10570498
The dress is form cute, and I'm not trying to be a hater or anything.. it may be the lighting, but this kind of looks.. cheap?

>>10570311
I hope this means they're gonna rerelease the long version soon

>>10570337
I think the guy who ran SS had some sort of mental health/breakdown issues and that was partly why they closed. Not sure if he ever opened up another brand...

>>10570581
Form cute?

>>10570581

Lighting. You usually want the photos from Atelier Boz Osaka. They take the best photos with great natural light. Meanwhile the same product on the other shop's blog looks like this.

>>10570311
I want this so much but I’m holding out for the long version. Praying they come through

Does anyone else feel more of an affinity to Boz's men's clothing? I feel like I'm more interested in the men's version of Altria Short Sleeved OP, whilst feeling nothing for the female version, because of the narrow silhouette, though I don't think it would fit me

>>10570311
Oh shit, I want It. But only DHL available for my country for now. Hopefully they will rerererererelease it in the future.

>>10570759
No? We like poofy skirts here ma'am

>>10570759
It's perfect for Ouji and might be good if you're into Aristocrat. It's not great for Lolita,though.

>>10570311
I kinda want this, but I really want pic related.

>>10570581
>>10570748
Sorry, yes, here's the other photo

>>10570741
I think in the VK thread someone mentioned he sold off all his old stock and is around but not producing anymore still? They may be making music again, though.

Any news about the teacup rerelease?

>>10570833
I don't see anything besides the tweet that they're considering it.

>>10570759
U into militaristic style?

>>10570784
Oh this is CUTE!

>>10571362
nayrt but i wish i could find some reviews and detail pics for some of these military dresses, i like the style but i just don't want to pay for garbage

>>10573050
Just a one-off review, but I bought this recently and based on the experience, I would absolutely buy from Foxtrot again. Fully lined, no stray threads, heavy fabric with nice drape, good zipper, nice accent bits, overall feels as nice as any of my Boz. The sleeves run a bit short, but that's a common experience for me.

>>10573265
Ehh...the fact that you think a dress that is maybe 100$ at most is like boz puts your whole review in the garbage. Its fine to accept that the cheaper items are cheaper.

>>10571362
Often these releases use a lot of weird costumey elements and use cheap trims/buttons. The quality of the poly is also low, but wearable.

Does Moitie ever restock sold out jewlery, or only rerelease?

Has anyone here done the remote shopping with AtPie? I'm thinking of doing it to get the 10% tax off and maybe some tights that aren't on the site
I want to see what Moitie they have too

>>10569301
bless you anon

My first and last attempt at gothic Lolita was so bad my own bf told me never do it again lmao
Thank god I don’t have feelings otherwise I would have commit seduku
It sucks cuz I know I couldnt pull it off yet my bf urged me to cuz of some yellow fever gothic Lolita kink -_-

...anyway.

New stuff announced by Moitie:

Gardenia Pintuck Apron
[Price] ¥ 16,500 + tax
[Color] White, black, black and white
【size】
Front center (on the belt) 21 cm
Skirt length (under the belt) 63.5 cm
Belt width 4.5 cm
Shoulder strap 56 cm (adjustable in 2 steps with a button)
Hem circumference ・ 168 cm

[Material]
100% cotton
100% lace / cotton

made in China

>>10574956

>>10574959
Gardenia headdress
[Price] ¥ 8,000 + tax
[Color] White, black
【size】
Diameter 23 cm
Ribbon part length 53 cm

[Material]
100% lace / cotton

made in Japan

>>10574962
St. Peter's Cross Three-tiered Lace Drawers
[Price] ¥ 9,500 + tax
[Color] White, black
【size】
Length 48 cm
Waist 32-55 cm
Inseam ・ 14.8cm
Hip 59cm
Hem rubber, 17 to 30 cm

[Material]
100% cotton
100% lace / cotton


made in China

>>10574963
Cross arch lace mask

[Price] ¥ 2,700 + tax
[Color] White, black x blue lace, black
【size】
Length 9.5 cm-maximum 17.5 cm
Width 20 cm
Rubber 15 cm to 37.5 cm (2.5 times longer)

[Material]
race
Body / 100% nylon
Embroidery thread, 100% rayon
Embroidery back thread, 100% polyester

made in Japan

>>10574965
Candlestick charm inverted cross lace choker
[Price] ¥ 4,200 + tax
[Color] White, navy blue
[Size]
Choker total length 98 cm
Lace part ・ 32cm
Candlestick, length 3 cm, width 2.2 cm


[Material]
Inverted cross lace / material
100% tulle / nylon
Embroidery thread / rayon 50%, polyester 50%
100% rose lace rayon
Ribbon 100% polyester
Candlestick motif, bell alloy

made in Japan

>>10574966
Candlestick lace choker
[Price] ¥ 2,500 + tax
【Color】
White x white ribbon x gold cross
White x blue ribbon x gold cross
Black x black ribbon x silver cross
Blue x blue ribbon x silver cross

[Size]
Choker total length 98 cm
Lace part ・ 32cm

[Material]
·race
Base cloth: 100% polyester
Embroidery thread: 100% polyester

made in Japan

>>10574969
Acrylic stand [EGA-2]
[Price] 2.500 yen + tax

[Size]
105mm x 135mm

[Material]
Acrylic

In other news, Atelier Boz is re-releasing their popular Loire Granche Mermaid Skirt in sizes M and L. Expected to arrive late April.

[Size details]
M size
Waist: 60cm-73cm
width 9.5cm
total length 90.5cm

L size
Waist: 65cm-78cm
width 9.5cm
total length 91.5cm

[Material]
Outer material: 100% polyester
Lining: 100% polyester

https://www.atelier-boz.co.jp/products/detail/311

>>10574977

>>10574956
>...anyway

>>10574965
godddd I want this but I think it's going to be way too big for my face, I think I'll grab 1-2 of the chokers though.

>>10574962
This is kinda cute. I like the idea of the super long stripes of ribbon on the back.

>>10574956
Looking between this and the VM tablier trying to decide which one I like better. I think the VM one is way longer, though, so I should probably stick to this one.

Though it looks like the preorder for the VM one ended already anyway, ah well.

>>10574969
Am I reading the tweet correctly that it mentions limited colorways for Shinjuku? Do we know what those are?

>>10575068
The worn photo is pretty cute, I just can't stand items that have only a comb mounting.

>>10574977
Wow I love this. Does anyone know how it'll fit in the hips and butt? My waist is 73 cm, but my hip measurement is 100 cm.

>>10574956
>>10574959
>>10574962

Easy pass for me desu. It's cute but really far away from my style, and I have like too many aprons now thanks to the overhype in the past several years. I feel like I'm languishing waiting for that floral release, unless the tablecloth lace was was the one that they meant was the floral release, then rip me.

>>10575294
It wont fit.

>>10574977
Dumb question but what does the 9.5cm 'width' refer to? The waistband length?

>>10575392
I think it's the amount that the fabric can stretch, I believe. The word that translated to "width" can also mean "stretch", and this skirt says it's made of stretch fabric. That leads me to believe that the waist measurement is based on the corset panel but it can stretch an extra 9.5cm (especially since it's the same for both sizes)

>>10575397
Thanks! Really glad they give an idea of the corset sizing.

>>10575175
Isn't that a Mennonite hair cap?

>>10575409
I mean, maybe, but I've seen them in old-timey maid outfits too so I assume they're one of those things that just both happen to derive from the same period style.

Like how Orthodox Jewish women wear the same lace headdresses we do because they're both based on the same 1800's Russian headdress styles.

>>10575419
>Like how Orthodox Jewish women wear the same lace headdresses we do
They do? I’ve only seen orthodox Jewish men wear brown wigs or sometimes head wraps. And if you’re talking about maxipad headdresses, they look nothing like 1800s Russian headdresses (kokoshnik). Can you explain?

>>10574970
Mana-sama Nendoroid when?

>>10575512
Yes, maxipad headdresses, not kokoshnik (worn with a wig, of course). Orthodox clothing rules essentially stem from establishment in the same time period... Initially they were meant to help Jews blend in with Russians at the time, but instead they just never changed. Or that was how my very-secular not-Orthodox family explained it to me, so; take with a grain of salt.

I don't know about in other countries' Orthodox communities, but in NYC you'll see them very commonly. This was the only potato picture I could find as an example, I don't want to be weird and try to take a photo of the accessory shop in my neighborhood.

>>10574225
From observation, they only seems to rerelease.
>>10574959
I really wish moitie would make a shorter version of the aprons

does antique beast tend to run big? i'm looking at some stuff i want to get but i'm on the fence about needing custom sizing

>if she ever opens again

Some new reservations and releases from Sheglit.

>>10577094

>>10577095

>>10577096

>>10577097

>>10577098

>>10577095
love the bat collar, i don't really like how shiny the fabric looks

>>10577096
Really tempted to buy this and a couple other things they've restocked, but keep faffing back and forth whether I really need it

>>10577101
It looks similar to that poly Moitie is using for their blouses too, which while I don't mind it, it doesn't really look right matched to any dresses I own with more matte poly twill or cotton

>>10564854
Oldschool gothic with black usakumya: cringe or based?

>>10577151
Do you actually mean gothic or just kuro sweet

>>10577156
Actual gothic. I wear my usakumya with kuro sweet all the time but wondered what people think about wearing it with (nonprint) gothic

>>10577161
Not a fan personally but I think it might be cute if you dressed Usa-chan in a matching gothic coord, maybe give her a cross choker or something

>>10577161
Post pic of coord

>>10577151
Cringe

If you wanted mayybbbee the moitie bear but even then that wasnt really a thing for coords but a novelty item.

>>10577156
>>10577161
>Kuro sweet
Is this the same as bittersweet?? Some anons were arguing about the term in another thread

>>10577178
No.

>>10577179
Pls educate me, I am a lost newfriend

>>10577181
kuro sweet is all-black-everything sweet. bittersweet is other colors printed on a black background.

>>10577197
I don't think kuro or shiro have to be sweet. It's just all black (or for shiro all white) coords.

>>10577205
yeah, I was only answering in the context they asked about. in general it just means black or white, so you see shiro gothic for all-white gothic coords. kuro gothic would be kind of redundant because it's associated with black by default. and I don't see kuro/shiro used much in classic, maybe because it focuses more on looking historical rather than... conceptual? not sure how to best phrase that.

>>10577167
Ooh I like this idea thank you anon!

>>10577197
>>10577226
Ahh I gotcha, thanks anon. I was confused because I know kuro means black and in the other thread someone was saying bittersweet is just black with sweet and someone else was arguing otherwise.

>>10576068
No it runs a bit small. It's made for petite and short girls, so add length if you don't want to look ero.

>>10576068
>>10577275
In my personal experience of buying four main pieces, they actually run a couple of cm larger than listed. When I've gotten pieces made for my actual measurements, it's noticeably too big. I generally size down 2 or so cm from my measurements, and then it fits perfectly. I have heard from others that it can be a bit mixed, though, and atleast one person I know requested their actual measurements and it was too tight. But maybe they measured themselves wrong.

>>10569301
Bless you anon, my wallet is lighter this day

Can we get some sharing going for headwear too? I'm still pretty newfriend and don't see non-brand shared for gothic much bar Antique Beast

>>10577567
diff anon but this actually makes me somewhat hopeful, I think I'm just above the range of size alterations she's willing to make with a 74cm waist, do you think I could get some pieces to work in that case?

Anons what do you think are the chances of today/tomorrow's Moitie accessory drop selling out in a day or less? I probably won't be able to get on my laptop until I get home from work tomorrow and I'm wondering if I should try to prepare my cart on mobile instead, even though I haven't seen a ton of hype.

>>10578086
Also didn't see it mentioned but there's an exclusive to Kera shop(?) version of >>10574969 with a crystal drop instead of the cross charm

>>10578086
if it's not much effort why not do it on your phone and not have to spend all day wondering about whether you'll be able to get what you want?

>>10577097
I love the white version of this.

Starting to warm up where I am. Any coord inspo for gothic spring/summer coords? Posting the few I have.

>>10579209

>>10579210

>>10579213
what dress is this?

>>10579210
I am weak for florals in gothic

>>10579564

>>10579572

I'm really into these new Sheglit blouses.

>>10580387
Oh wow, I love the ivory one, I'm weak for any print with a porcelain chinaware look. Nothing to wear it with, though...

>>10580387
Love these so much. The print is so good!

>>10570745
Cute on the dress form, not on people when worn.

I love abilletage, but why is this jabot $100
>https://www.wunderwelt.jp/en/fleur/products/m-04965

Hello friends. Antique Beast returns 3/28 at 21:00.

>>10584359
da just adding on since it's likely to be asked, she mentioned that since EMS is still not available to some places she asks you choose SAL or ship to a forwarding service, and to keep in mind the shipping situation is subject to change by the time the order is ready to ship.

>>10584359
For gulls that registered with Antique Beast, how do you enter your billing address correctly? I just put my full address into the first address line because there was no option for town/city. I guess it doesn't matter with paypal but I never bought from AB with an account before so idk if it's different.

>>10576068
Got the notification that AB is opening tomorrow; hopefully they’ll accept overseas orders

>>10584373
This might help you
>http://buttcape.blogspot.com/2017/07/ordering-guide-antique-beast.html

>>10584359
Has anyone got some pictures of Antique Beast dresses worn (especially interested in these two)?
Pics of any headdresses that aren't the bat ones would be great too. I've ordered a headdress from her before and the fit on me was just really odd. The craftsmanship was lovely though so I'd want to give it another go.

>>10584531
The dress on the right has a weird fit. It’s like an overbust babydoll

>>10584551
Pics?

>>10584531
Just buy moitie’s lace cross if you want it that bad

>>10584563
Sorry, can’t help you with that. Mine is currently split at the seams because I tried to alter it but gave up when I noticed several pieces were glued together. I’m getting a seamstress to sew it back together

>>10584564
Agree with this lol. I own both (though the Moitie in blue not white) and if you can get the Moitie, you should. The construction feels a lot more high quality

>>10574914
Wtf

>>10584531
Different anon than >>10584551 If your not below a 34 AA it will squish your chest down or ride high. Also the lace can be very different. Not sure about the other anon but my sleeves aren't elasticized but drawstring.

>>10584605
Thanks for posting this anon, the construction on the AB piece looks janky I'm sorry. Was thinking of getting a piece from them but I might just go with Sheglit instead.

>>10584644
The Cross OP cut is very similar to Meta's Juicy Basket Short Sleeve OP if that helps

What are your thoughts on very heavy dark eye makeup in gothic lolita? I’m a lonelita and I wear big shadowy gothic eyeshadow BUT I’m planning to start posting online and joining online comm because covid has me so lonely, and I don’t want to just end up in the ita thread all the time because “too much makeup not rori” or whatever

>>10584659
Big dark eyeshadow is pretty par the course for Gothic.

>>10584660
Not unless you’re Mana. I’m sick of seeing overdone egirl eyes in my lolita

>>10564854
Just got my antique beast order in!!! So excited to finally get my hands on the damn bat headdress

>>10584486
thanks anon!

I got what I wanted except for picrel because it can't ship to Japan apparently. I'm so sad, I wanted this one the most, and now it's sold out. I hope everyone was able to get what they wanted!

>>10584688
I definitely did! Next time around I’m thinking about getting one of their big witch hats however! :)

I decided to wait until EMS or SAL opens back up to the US to order. The item I want most has been in stock pretty much forever so I doubt it will go out of stock by then.

>>10584688
That's so odd, I wonder why that piece can't ship domestically? You mean you used tenso, right, or do you live there?

>>10584644
You're welcome, I should have included mine is over ten years old and they may have changed things. I will say it is very comfy in the summer.

>>10584659
Tons of good gothic lolitas do heavy eyeshadow. Stop caring so much what cgl thinks, the opinions here are largely terrible

i havent been buying much of anything since covid so i didn't know SAL was suspended to the US, i only thought EMS was so i chose SAL for my AB order. none of what i got ships domestically to tenso either

>maybe it'll be fine
>r-right

>>10584686
Sorry you have shit taste.
Sure, some people suck at it but not everyone is good at makeup or suits the look.

>>10584789
I stared at this picture of Kaya for 5 minutes—literal goth rori goals

>>10584786
Don’t worry. It will take some time for her to make your items, so the shipping situation may’ve changed by then.

>>10584686
E trash and heavy gothic makeup are two very different things you ingrate

>>10584688
>>10584786
Did you guys pick Sagawa for shipping when trying to order with the Tenso address? SAL and EMS cannot ship domestically.

>>10574914
Thing is your coord is ita and your makeup is very clownish....
If you did a better attempt it might look alright on you.

>>10586317
>>10584578
it's a troll. dont bite the hook

If anyone hasn't seen, Atelier Pierrot has the rose jacquard version of their corset OP on reservation currently in Black, Navy x Black, White and Wine x Black

>>10574914
>>10586317
Clown is also the first thought that came to my mind. Less would look better

why was Antique Beast open for such a short time anyway? I've ordered from them before and it usually has been 3-5 days

>>10579572
brand please? I think I like Gothic now...

>>10579572
What about this is even gothic? It just looks like classic. Not saying you can’t do gothic in light colors but this isn’t it.

>>10588385
I think it's Moitie but I don't see it on lolibrary

>>10588361
I'm guessing her slots filled up faster than usual because she hasn't been open in a year so many people were waiting and saving up to buy from her.

>>10588385
https://lolibrary.org/items/moitie-rose-print-op

>>10588398
Oh, I guess I'm blind >>10588394 Thanks

>>10588392
I know I agree but people are saying it's gothic because it's moitie since anything in association with mana HAS to be gothic right???

Speaking of floral and light colored Moitie, WW has 2 lighter color JSKs up right now but one of them is pretty stained for how much they're asking. Kind of a shame because it's a cute dress.

>>10588398
Thank you, you are an angel. I didn't expect it to be Moitie!

>>10588385
Good luck with that. Hope you like new moitie

>>10579572
>>10588392
>>10588402
I'd wear it like this

>>10588443
Ita

>>10588447
at least give concrit lmao

>>10588443
Amish/10

>>10588443
This styling is kinda bad but at least it comes off as gothic unlike >>10579572 which is 100% styled in a classic way

>>10588443
the collar throws this off imo. Beautiful cute flowery and lacy shit then some ugly straight collar with crosses.

>>10588468
Like this?

>>10588472
Nayrt but I like the idea of a black blouse underneath. Just not that style. Something more ruffled.

>>10588472
>>10588443
This coord does come off very ita.
The bonnet doesn't match at all since it's a weird greenish blue. The cross collar doesn't fit into the flowery theme either and feels very out of place.
Honestly, the black accessories/blouse just feel super ham fisted. White or a matching purplish blue would work better.

>>10588764
It looks like the were trying for an old school look

>>10588773
I get that but it didn't really work. I think something like this would be miles better where there are smaller black accents throughout since the lace on the OP is just a small accent.

Why are gothic lolitas so severely autistic that you feel the need to come invade the AP thread without provocation because you don’t like AP instead of hiding it?

>>10593525
Not sure if you're just that retarded but it was really obviously a troll.

The gothic general doesn't even get replies except in specific timeframes cuz it's all Eurofags in here.

There's your spoonfeed. You can leave now.

>>10593529
Have fun getting fucked in the ass by customs kek

>>10593525
>>10593539
Why do you feel the need to come here and shit stir just because YOU took obvious bait? Fuck off.

I'm looking for a Moitie OP that I can't find on lolibrary (probably because I'm dumb). I remember that it was uploaded to Closet Child this year, it was longer length, solid white with black (lace? ribbon?) detailing around the neckline and it went for ridiculously cheap lol. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

I think the trim might have been black ribbon threaded through white lace but I'm not too sure at this point

>>10593725
You can look through the sold items on CC

>>10593729
I did, but it's already been deleted. I remember seeing it quite early this year (January?) and they only go a few months back

>>10593732
You could possibly try looking through sold listings on Wunderwelt?

>>10593725
Is it this one anon?
https://lolibrary.org/items/moitie-shirring-ribbon-op-2003

>>10593725
It was the Girl Long OP. The color isn't listed on Lolibrary, but I remember seeing it on CC.It was so cheap.
https://lolibrary.org/items/moitie-girl-long-op

>>10593743
That's the one! Makes sense that I couldn't find it if the colour wasn't listed. Thank you anon!

When it comes to old size 2 / 82cm bust Moitie with fully shirred waistband/neckline, about how many cm give do they usually have? Does it heavily depend on the piece? I never really know how to predict old shirred Moitie.

>>10594081
The shirring is to get it over your shoulders or hips so don't expect it to fit

>>10594112
Damn, I was hoping it could at least accommodate an 86cm bust but I guess I'll have to stick to full shirring and newer Moitie. Thanks though!

What are the chances for the new Moitie EGA pants going on sale later in the season?

>>10594081
It depends on the piece. Their old "82cm" bust wasn't a particularly tight fit on many of their items, I haven't yet found a Moitié jsk that's tight on that measurement. There's definitely older pieces like the cross front chiffon dress that actually look better on a slightly larger bust and are fine up to around 86-88cm.

What'd you get from the Moitie drop, gulls? I almost bought the shirred OP for summer but I want to see if they release the short version instead.

>>10597519
I didn’t think there was anything too exciting honestly. Might get another pair of wristcuffs.

>>10597519
Black x Blue wrist cuffs. I’m starting to love the way black wrist cuffs looks when it covers the Apple Watch.
I don’t know if I really want the coffin lace ribbon JSK, it looks a bit bland but maybe that’s a good thing?
I’ve been thinking about the apron a lot but I still can’t decide if I want to buy the apron for daily use. I’m a bit worried it might survive frequent washing or not.

>>10597991
Honestly I feel the same way about the JSK. I just wish there was something, any kind of detail on the bodice section, OR that the tailoring of the overall dress was better. As it is I don't feel it's quite worth the pricetag- if it were retailing for 25000-28000¥ then maybe.

But the colorways I like are sold out in size 13 anyway, so I guess it doesn't matter. I could probably fit into a 9 but I'd like just a little more wiggleroom in the waist for my blouse.

>>10597995
That is definitely a much more reasonable price for the JSK.

Are you buying any other brands? I’m looking for other stuff to buy until Moitie releases something new. I recently fell in love with MRCorset for their cutsews and tempted to try Marble.

>>10598115
I've been buying some BPN, some Miho Matsuda, but mostly older stuff and secondhand. I do like Marble but I feel like their good pieces are fewer between. Other than Moitie accessories the brand I've been buying most new is Sheglit.

I've been eying more abilletage and Na+ though, they can be a bit pricy for what they are and more gothic-punk at times than lolita but they have a lot of great workable tops, especially cutsews. I've been quite impressed with abilletage's quality so far.

>>10598115
Second the other anon I buy a lot of BPN, Miho Matsuda, some FRILL, Antique Beast, and Marble.

Also, anyone know any blouses with embroidered ruffle collars or anything with a design there? I'm trying to modify one I got as a gift since it's a bit damaged with a few small holes there and need ideas.

>>10598249
I could have sworn I have seen embroidered collar blouses on lolibrary from Sheglit when I was browsing recently, I can't recall the names, though. I think it had short sleeves and maybe butterfly embroidery, like their logo.

I want my first coord to be a long skirt + corset and a white blouse sorta like >>10565351
What kinda head accessories go with that? Or should I not use any?

>>10599040
can't go wrong with a rectangle headdress

>>10598249
>>10598252
Ulysses Rose Embroidery Shirring Blouse by Sheglit

>>10599040
I like hats, like a Victorian style cap or a pillbox with a long veil. Updos with a nice headdress pinned into them can look really nice too. Depends on your hairstyle, too.

Atelier Boz has a twitter poll up asking if they should sell stuff through Amazon
https://twitter.com/boz_honten/status/1386989392074444801

Hello, so where do you guys buy your dresses? My gf wants some but we barely find good places to buy them.
Preferable in EU

>>10603092
Milanoo is your best bet

>>10603094
That or Ali Express usually has some good ones

>>10603094
>>10603095
Thanks anons!

>>10603095
>>10603094

>>10603134
See you there anon :)

>>10603087
Interesting. I wouldn't have thought that amazon's fashion marketplace would intersect heavily with their fanbase.

I've only purchased books from amazon JP before, but does anyone have experience buying clothes and other items from there? Is it any easier for buying internationally?

if anyone owns both sheglit and moitie's bat collar blouses how do they compare and which do you like better?

>>10603092
just go on devil inspired
>>10603134
im joining the club >:)

>>10603754
cringe post

Some new items from Moitie
>https://twitter.com/moitie_official/status/1391635613460451331

>>10610259
>https://twitter.com/moitie_official/status/1391635361923797001

>>10610260
>https://twitter.com/moitie_official/status/1391635110483554308

>>10610262
>https://twitter.com/moitie_official/status/1391634355215241217

>>10610263
>https://twitter.com/moitie_official/status/1391634108283965442

>>10610266
>https://twitter.com/moitie_official/status/1391634606990848004
Items will be released on 15th May, 15:00 JST

>>10610259
Nothing here grabbing me... It feels like all they release lately is variations on the same items.

>>10610263
Colonial Williamsburg kei.

>>10610263
Looks cute on Misako. Night caps are a weakness of mine, so I'll probably go for it if they don't sell out too quickly.

>>10610263
It looks cute on Misako. Night caps are a weakness of mine, so I'll probably go for it if they don't sell out too quickly.

>>10610307
kek

>>10610263
The more I look at this, the more charming I find the idea of wearing it as room wear...

>>10574914
The only problem here was the makeup

>>10610626
Troll harder

I've been a fan of Mana and similar artists since 13yo. I dress quite alt generally but don't have anything EGA or EGL.
I don't know where else to shop for EGA clothes that would look flattering on a man besides Moitie and Boz. I really like Mana's style and wanna wear those more ouji aristocrat coords. Lolita doesn't really interest me, unless it's tea length and very gothic. I really liked Moitie's bat corset skirt but it's not long enough.
The problem is that these brands are extremely inaccessible. Can't find anything on LM either. I dunno what to do.

>>10610945
>Lolita doesn't really interest me
Wtf are you doing looking for clothes in lolita spaces then? Of course you can't find anything you like on lm. Stop looking at lolita and start looking at gothic and aristocratic brands.

>>10570311
Maybe stupid question, but does Atelier Boz ship globally/to the US? Went to check out, but it doesn't look like it lmao

>>10610964
yes. I have not bought from there myself, so unfortunately I can't tell you more.

>>10610967
Oh, thank you! My ADHD brain tends to skim over those messages, oops. Time to figure it out I guess.

>>10610968
If you are >>10610945, regarding Moitie - they also ship internationally via the website Wunderwelt Fleur.

>>10610970
No, but thank you for wanting to be helpful anyways! I wondered if maybe AB was hosted through another site, but I didn't see it listed on WW or Rakuten or anything. It only seems to accept Japanese addresses through their website - I might try to shoot them a message about it somewhere.

>>10610975
I was wondering the same thing anon, so if you figure it out do mention back in the thread

It may be email order only? But I was doubting that they could communicate in English and I feel google Japanese isn't really a good way to go about a purchase...

>>10610993
Yeah lmao I just sent their customer service an email and asked if they had a guide, which I also provided an extra Google translated into Japanese version of. I will post here if they reply with anything! They also posted in English on their Twitter in that poll mentioned up thread, so maybe they have someone there who can speak English and would answer? If customer service doesn't get back to me with help, I might try there or give up and use a shopping service.

>>10611015
A girl I follow on Instagram did a review of their lucky pack and she ordered it directly from them. Didn't sound that difficult.

>>10611015
Eagerly awaiting the response! Thanks anon!

Tangentially related to Boz, but do newer releases of their items actually have larger measurements, or is the difference between the lolibrary listings and what I see listed for the same dresses on their website just them listing the min/max instead of only the minimum measurements, like a lot of brands used to?

*after mana just made you breakfast*
y/n: Babe where are your pants???
Mana: What do you think was in the oatmeal?

Imagine

>>10611339
??????

>>10610259
i would really love for the apron to have black ribbon on it rather than white. I just want moitie to make a black blouse with white lace then they can have my money. I can't believe i am saying this, but i really love a new print as well.

>>10611339

>>10611339
kekd

>>10610957
Tell me more about those gothic and aristocratic secondhand sites that occasionally have MmM and Boz that aren't also lolita spaces

>>10610957
Are you the same newfag from the oldschool thread that claimed there were no ankle length coords in lolita

>>10611995
Just because a lolita brand creates something, doesn't mean that it's lolita.

https://egl.livejournal.com/19327336.html

You fucking newfags need to lurk more and stop pretending like you know shit. Livejournal hardly prunes it's old posts. Likely chance is there is already information out there for you to educate your dumb selves.

just now getting into gothic lolita after 12 years lurking. experienced with design, alternative fashion, and fashion in general so not worried about ita coord being a possibility (unless it's deliberate oldschool kinda thing). have accrued a good amount of basics from bodyline, taobao, and jp mercari.
just scored this as my first brand dress, it was a grail.
fucking terrified to post a coord pic when it arrives.
good get?

>>10612050
Congrats you're gonna be a bodyline taobao ita

>>10611905
No one said anything about secondhand sites or mmm/boz. Literally only said look into aristocratic brands. Please learn to read without adding your own assumptions.

>>10612016
I'm hearing a yes

Hey y'all! Same anon who was asking about ordering from Atelier Boz. Their ordering system is a little wonky lmao, but customer service sent me a guide on how to order! Gonna dump the screenshots they sent me since >>10611149 also expressed interest.

1/6

>>10613327

>>10613329
3/6

>>10613331
4/6

>>10613334
5/6

>>10613336
6/6

Additional Note: I got an error after following this guide, but desu I'm going to assume it's my bank acting up before I assume it's their website

>>10613338
Image translator if you need it
https://translateimages.site/

>>10613327
Bless you anon, you are a godsend

>>10613327
If you're a Lolita and can't read "add to cart" or any katakana, you're clearly new and should figure it out on your own.

>>10613338
Funny. I tried doing all this just the other day. (I got creative and really annoyed trying to check out) I think some of the cards are still not accepted from overseas.

Thanks for providing the how to instructions. One day too late for me though, because I ended up just buying the short version off a second hand website.

Just learn Japanese lmao

>>10613585
>>10613726
They want you to put a random Japanese name/address in instead of your own international address on the initial ordering page - it's not exactly an intuitive design or one that only requires common sense lmao

>>10613643
That's possible! I'm gonna try one more time with my card, but if it doesn't work, maybe that's the issue and I should just use a shopping service. Usually my credit union calls me if there is suspicious activity (I was actually waiting to get that call desu but never got it). They need to uhhh change this manner of ordering. Makes no sense. Just allow international addresses to be put in; I don't feel like that's complicated to add.

Does anyone have any of those photo collages of cute Asian hair cuts? People used to post them ask the time back when I frequented this board (6-10 years ago), but I don't know where they were from our how to find them.

>>10568530
Haven’t bought yet but I’ve been looking at this person’s work and thinking of doing something w it http://bitingbatcollection.com/

>>10615237
why are they wearing a blouse that doesnt even close around their breasts then using their hand to try to conceal that

>>10615237
This looks so cheap. Save your money for something nicer.

>>10615246
It gets weirder the more you look. what's up with the neck/chin area?

>>10615246
Don’t ask me lol I didn’t even notice it until now

>>10615237
Aside from the weird not-wearing-a-bra-and-wearing-a-blouse-that-doesn't-even-close-over-the-breasts, this looks really cheap anon. You could make something similar and much better quality super easily.

>>10615263
You have inspired me

>>10615237
is this a selfpost? this looks like absolute garbage. this is like an unironic cross that an old biker lady would wear. (and that's probably who's actually wearing it in the pic)

>>10615293
the girl is not an old lady, she looks like some edgy "goth" blm sjw pronoun/pronounself though. Which also works.

>>10615251
Likely a scar from surgery

Any thoughts or reviews on the brand MR? Their cutsew prices seem quite cheap despite all the details, compared to similar brands like abilletage, but it looks like most of their stuff is still made in Japan so I'm curious about the quality.

>>10615237
Why are her tits so low?? Wtf

>>10622239
they are big and she is not wearing a bra

>>10615251
it is just a crease on her neck, it usually happens to fat people, but even normal people and young people get it.

>>10622239
you really did out yourself as a scrotch like this

>>10622296
Not all of us gulls have big saggy tits

>>10575056
I think it’s meant to be worn with another mask underneath? I don’t think this see-through fabric would make sense otherwise, since Covid could walz right in.

Okay, was anyone going to tell me that most of the recent Artherapie bags are replicas of vintage Jean-Paul Gaultier? Anyone eyeing an Artherapie bag, check if there's a JPG bag secondhand, it will probably be similar/better price and better quality.

recs for a gothic appropriate messenger bag? i know any plain black leather one will work, but i wanted to know if anyone had any good ones.

>>10624960
Read one post above you

>>10570498
damn this looks good and elegant

>>10625093
they look like shit you shill.

>>10625131
JPG is shit? lol ok

>>10625131
Didn't post >>10624917 but I hope no one spoonfeeds you now, you rude ass cunt

>>10625131
>accusing someone of being a shill for a 40 year old fashion brand on a mongolian brick-laying forum

i had a dream last night that moitie released a print that was like some spooky haunted house or whatever but on the outside in the house's yard there was just a soviet officer shooting a man in the head. something's wrong with me i think

>>10627979
Amazing anon. Maybe you are a prophet

>>10627979
Better than some recent releases anon

>>10627979
Maybe Mana will see this and release that print

>>10628043
i remember in the dream that that was everyone's general reaction to it
>well its better than most nu-moitie i guess

>>10610970
Atelier boz sometimes gives a tax discount if you order directly from them internationally

>>10628056
Maybe triple M fans will finally get the prophet we deserve like the sweetfags kek

>>10610945
Order from them directly because Moitie is hard to find secondhand, or spend years looking for something you want secondhand.

>>10610259
I feel like 15 years from now we will love this and it'll be really hard to find

>>10627979
God, a generic pretty house/architecture print with a murder ocurring if you look closely would be so good. So many other dresses already have cutesy hidden details, my body needs something edgier like this.

New thread: >>10628241