/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

most of /cgl/ are TERF lesbians

ask a depressing question get a depressing answer

Soup is my favorite tranny

>>10585278
Being real and not giving a shitpost answer, this is the reason I will not join a comm. I am a SA victim and I do not feel comfortable around trans “women”, because 99% of them are predatory or malicious towards real women in some way. I’m not really comfortable around cis men either, but I’d take dealing with a cis man over a troon any day.

https://theysaythisneverhappens.tumblr.com/

>>10585283
same here, anon. the idea that these men are protected over us too, it's so fucked.

no thanks

>>10585284
It enrages me to no end that these articles refer to them as “women.” No real woman is making 80,000+ CP images.

>>10585283
I’ve been sexually harassed nonstop by a tranny in a community I used to be a part of. I’m a man. I just decided to leave without saying anything because it was impossible to bring up without being “transphobic”. Quickly changed my mind from “They have every right to be who they want to be!” To “They are just mentally ill, and being actively encouraged every step of the way.” It’s like if everyone told schizophrenics that they should listen to the voices in their head because that makes them special.
I miss being part of a bigger community but these people are everywhere and are always the same.

they.never.look.good.

>>10585289
>It’s like if everyone told schizophrenics that they should listen to the voices in their head because that makes them special.

Exactly. I don’t understand why this is the one delusion society decides to accept and idealize. It’s literally no different than encouraging an anorexic to starve herself because she sees herself as fat. When did it become normal- or even “brave” to chop off body parts and mutilate yourselves? If you really stick around any MTF, it always turns out to be either a fetish or just blatant mental illness

We have a real transwoman in our com and she's an absolute pleasure and only in her early 20s.
But I absolutely hate older men wearing Lolita. It always looks like they have a goner underneath and only do this to pray on girls. My com doesn't allow people like this to our meets and I'm glad about that.

>>10585291
Really makes you think why so many MTF are “lesbians”. Perhaps all the years of rejection led them to think that becoming a woman will get them closer to women. But remember the high suicide rate is only because bullies and their parents didn’t accept them!

I have no problem with trans women, particularly the ones in my comm. If someone starts acting weird or fetishy I would have a problem with it but my actual offline experience with trans women has always been fine. A lot of the freaks online see ppl like the OP pic and assume that's all trans women and it's not.

There is nothing wrong, absolutely NOTHING wrong, with being a TERF.

Women who feel like they're competing with trans women or that their own womanhood is diminished are pathetic

>>10585295
>My com doesn't allow people like this to our meets

How did you settle on that? What's the phrasing you used? I'm worried we might have to deal with this problem in our comm someday so I want to find out how people handle it

>>10585304
No real women feel that way though. That’s a narrative troons made up to make themselves seem superior. Real women just don’t want troons in their spaces being predatory.

>>10585304
Women aren’t competing with trannies. It’s the trannies attempting to compete with women that’s the problem.

>>10585295
Wait until you find "her" secret diaperfur scat fetish Twitter account. There's no such thing as a normal tranny.

>>10585278
I think you need to worry about your own life and stop being so obsessed with what’s in someone’s pants.
That’s weird.
You’re weird.

>>10585312
Why do trannies always bring it to “What’s in someone’s pants/someone’s genitals”? We aren’t thinking about that. We’re thinking about how you’re physically stronger than us and how we couldn’t defend ourselves or children couldn’t defend theirselves if you decide to molest us

>>10585278
I don't care as long as they aren't ita and can act right in public. It doesn't matter who is wear the damn dress, the second a person does something that causes actual harm they need to gtfo and people should be made aware. Outside of that the coord being good is what matters.

>>10585313
what do you guys do about tall cis women then?

>>10585313
Not a tranny, just someone who knows how to wield a knife and isn’t obsessed with someone else’s existence.
I’m a lonelita so I don’t have to cater to the whims of my comm wanting to encourage these freaks of nature, but I’m also not gonna sit here and be obsessed with them either.
I’m going to carry mace and a knife, live in my frills, and be hyper vigilant of my surroundings.
If I see a degenerate fucking with kids, I’ll intervene if necessary.

Life has solutions. Stop driving your blood pressure over these fucking freaks and find yours. Stop obsessing about what’s in their pants, and figure out how to keep them away from you.

I hope they 41%

>>10585304

This. If they've legitimately done something wrong and are a predator then be upset, ban them, report them, sure, but the obsession over trans women not being real women or not woman enough to be in female spaces (not including safe spaces where people will be naked and may have genital related or induced trauma, in this case pre op trans women or post op trans men need to also be understanding and stay away) is rooted in misogynistic ideas of how feminine a woman, even a cis one, has to look to be woman enough, even when presenting as female already.

I understand the anxiety to a degree because of misogyny making most women fear everyone with a Y chromosome out of wanting to try to be safe. I am deathly afraid of any man I don't personally know well, constantly, it is rough, especially cause me being a 5' tall girl makes it even scarier to walk alone at night or interact with a male stranger. But the aggressive and obsessive nature of some people over trans women is just so unnecessary.

Even if you're happily a TERF or gender critical or whatever, the whole YWNBAW shit is silly because if you truly believe they are inferior and don't matter, then you shouldn't let them take up free real estate in your thoughts unless they're actually doing something wrong or legitimately threatening. Idk maybe I'm weird but if I hate or am annoyed by something and it isn't actively harming anyone, I just kind of ignore it?

>>10585319
Chances are a woman isn’t going to molest me. The statistics of women molesting other women in female spaces is very, very low. But the chances of a troon assaulting a woman? A child? Very high.

>>10585313
Because that’s all they think about 24/7. It’s the reason they say they are a woman despite their receded hairline and broad shoulders. It’s also the reason they prey on women and make a scene if anyone tells them to fuck off. Their whole identity is built on intense perversion.

>>10585282
this would be where tone indicators would come in handy. you need to add a /j for anons to know you’re joking about me being your favorite they/them.

>>10585326
This article is one that trans obsessed crossdressing conservative grifter Stephen Crowder reported on, and the attack was real and awful, but happened in a restroom in someone's HOME, not a public restroom. Kids are abused by men and women in their own homes regularly, the solution to that is to protect and watch and talk to those kids so they know to reach out for help, and make sure their babysitters or family members are decent people, not spend time reeing about how trannies are going to kill us all if they wear lolita on cgl.

>>10585305
We have a screening process for new members. We operate mostly trough WhatsApp and Facebook. Our mods look at everyone who wants to enter and if the person seems suspicious at first they are not allowed into the fb group. Second step is introduction and getting to know the person before they're allowed in the WhatsApp group.
Our mods are friendly but pretty straight forward when it comes to kicking people that might harm the com. We respect their decisions since it worked in the past and kept the com alive. Better save than sorry is the best approach to keep your com in good shape.
The transwoman we have has been listening to advice and is improving in lolita but it's clear that if she miss behaves or starts making the members uncomfortable she'll be kicked as well by mod-samas

>>10585330
>but happened in a restroom in someone's HOME, not a public restroom

Yes, that makes it much better. Hardly even noteworthy that the child was raped then. Who cares, right?

Why would I care? They're people just like anybody else. I don't think about it one way or another.

>>10585278
obnoxious drama queens online, i honestly think it's their misogynistic idea of what "us women" are like and they're affecting it. haven't had to deal with any in real life yet thankfully, hopefully the trend (or they) will die before it comes up

don't really give a shit personally as long as they're not creeps. i've met many trans people in and out of lolita and none of them have been creepy or predatory, i don't know who you guys have been hanging out with lol

>>10585278
If they weren't so fetishistic about it I wouldn't care, problem is that trannies can't keep their dicks to themselves and can't go thirty seconds without sending someone a rape threat.

>Nbd just your average troon sending rape threats to a literal child

>>10585324
Personally i don't think it's fair to wait for the creepy man in a wrinkly dress to creep on someone or assault them
risking the safety of multiple women isn't worth it just to fulfill some man's dream of "being a princess"

>>10585312
trannies are the ones basing their life on genitals
the person in the pic looks creepy and they're wearing cat ears
judging by how they said they just saw the cat ears in their closet and decided to throw them on with the coord they don't know jack shit about the fashion either

>>10585291
>>10585289
This put everything I've been feeling straight into words. I'm also a small woman and I don't trust men in general, already. I feel like men wearing women's clothing trying to get close to other women is like a perfect example of a wolf in sheep's clothing shit.

I don't trust men, I'm not going to trust a troon who's probably got issues.

>>10585304
Troon spotted
>>10585309
This.

Also, women aren't going to feel threatened like they have to compete with a man in woman's clothing because they look worse than the 'ugly girl' in women's clothing.

There's literally nothing to feel like you need to compete with.. Your 10/10 woman is going to blow a troon out of the water. There's no competition.

>>10585354
trannies and tras will always call real women fat because they are genetic trash and dead ends.

this pretty much summed it up

obviously mentally ill men who think they are women would want to dress like mentally ill women.

>>10585327
Imagine having a dick. What do you think guys think about 24/7? Their own dick getting wet, idiot.

>>10585357
Even the majority of fat women looks better than a skinny troon, though.

I'm sick of men invading women's spaces. Doesn't matter if they're wearing a dress, they've been socialised male and are misogynistic as fuck. As soon as someone doesn't want to associate with them they break out the rape threats, the threats of violence, it's fucked up.

>>10585348
We literally have biological programming to protect ourselves and other women from men - literally having men invade a woman's fashion is infringing on our own biological programming to protect ourselves.

What about women's rights acceptance? I think we should have the right to want to feel like we are not threatened by someone with a dick in their pants.

>tfw u start a new terf thread
thank you anons, this board is forever based

>>10585364
But nonny, us pointing out we’re afraid to get raped hurts their feefees.

>>10585366
Why the fuck do we care about their feelings lol. If they haven't taken hormones and chopped off their dick, then they don't know the meaning of having feelings yet. Seriously.

>>10585358
i want to twin with her <3

>>10585324
>not including safe spaces where people will be naked and may have genital related or induced trauma, in this case pre op trans women or post op trans men need to also be understanding and stay away

but they don’t stay away from these spaces, they are actively trying to get access to these spaces

As long as they are not cringe perverts and actually try to properly wear the fashion I don’t give a shit. It’s the same with cis people in the fashion.

imagine a world where trannies would have all disappeared. bliss.

>>10585374
>As long as they are not cringe perverts
That’s... all of them though. All of them are cringe perverts

>>10585378
I feel like the majority of women don't want to even think about the fact that men, who have a dick, think differently than we do.

Biological programming that makes their dick get hard when you do anything or want to fuck you for giving them attention. I'm seriously thinking the majority of the acceptance plebs have never had serious interaction with the opposite gender, outside of the troons.

>>10585375
Statistically speaking we can wait them out

>>10585278
I want to really be clear in saying that the core issue of if some indentity group is accept into a subculture or not usually has to do with if that individual is willing to embrace the core principles of what the subculture is about and that they should recognize that if what they're bringing into this subculture might conflict with it's core tenants.

Within my comms, bio females and bio males have always been accepted, regardless of their gender identity. However, what my comm has always drawn a line on is if the person coming in is trying to assert their fetish or their identity over the group subculture.

If you have a form of dysphoria, whatever kind that might be, it should never be a reason to affect your ability to be EGL. However, if the only way you can take part in an EGL event is to then project your very particular, individual issues with gender identity onto other people (bad-mouthing people for being cis, trying to pressure people into seeing their own gender identity as the one YOU think they "should" be) then you've taken an afternoon hobby-group activity and made it not fun anymore.

So are transgender people able to join the hobby? Yes. Are people who's goal it is to project their identity politic views on others welcome? No. It's like religion; as long as it's your faith and not something others must convert to; there's no problem.

>>10585316
dead

>>10585319
retard spotted

>>10585389
>Are people who's goal it is to project their identity politic views on others welcome? No. It's like religion; as long as it's your faith and not something others must convert to; there's no problem.

The issue is that the cult of transexuals want you to convert or face consequences more than the majority of the time. If you don't 'accept them and bend to their will,' then you're 'transphobic'

>>10585335
You literally ignored the rest of the post clarifying we need to protect and support children all the time, not just when trannies are involved

>>10585393
Yeah, I know, but I've had a small handful of positive experiences. One of those was with someone who wasn't sure what was going on with his sense of identity and wanted to use assembling a coord and wearing it to tea as a tester for "am I a girl?" And in the end he gradually shifted into living as a she full time without making a "deal" out of it. The less she brought it up, the more the comm was excited to help her learn.
The other most positive expereince in the comm was with a guy that used to be teased for not being "manly" (very small guy) and he wanted to learn how to make Lolita clothes, but had no model... So he made the effort to brolita his projects and that was cool. He never transistioned into anything beyond where he started, but ended up meeting a girl through work that always wanted to try boystyle, so now he makes pieces for her and himself.

In both situations the group wasn't blind to what could turn into a problem, but we kept our minds open and tried to not judge as long as they weren't ruining our fun. In the end it lead to good company at the table.

I'm certain I'll run into a troon of a horror story one day, but I think having a general willingness to be open actually protects your group from being labeled as transphobic. If you've been open to people in the past and it turned out okay, it acts as evidence that it's the troon's problem and not the group.

>>10585401
I think the issue is it would take the past history, or the previous trans people who you've interacted with stepping up and saying something. The likelihood of that always happening, anytime someone runs off to try to cancel a whole group of people is pretty low.

I try not to think about them

>>10585348
>Personally i don't think it's fair to wait for the black man in white man's clothing to creep on someone or assault them
>risking the safety of multiple whites isn't worth it just to fulfill some leftist dream of "being equal"

>>10585466
Classic SJW behavior. No one mentioned race here, you loon.

>>10585468
Nayrt but if you consider being trans something immutable you can't really control, then the way the stereotyping and perceived danger is framed does parallel race pretty well.

That being said, I will cross the street and constantly check behind me if a man black or not is walking behind me at night and even during the daytime, sometimes to the point of offending them or making them feel bad, but I don't care because it's a safety thing. But that's all men, not just one race. If a trans woman doesn't look like they're trying to pass and isn't dressed particularly feminine, I have no way of knowing they're not a man and will treat them like I do a man by default if I'm alone and vulnerable in public or whatever because from a distance in public they just look like a dude with long hair or whatever. Same with a buff or butch woman, from a distance they may look male and therefore dangerous.

>>10585466
lol cause being a crossdresser is equivalent to being a black person. The sad thing is that you're probably not even trolling.

>>10585468
I'm actually a racist man pointing out massive female cognitive dissonance and doublethink in which it's cool to discriminate trannies based on their biological predispositions (perversion, assault and rape according to people posting here) and on statistics or news >>10585326 but when a racist uses the literal same arguments (biolgical predisposition, crime statistics, etc) for racial discrimination it somehow it's not valid, it's just le incel virgin conspiracy theories and the like. It's just funny to me, you can hate trannies as much as you want though, I don't give a fuck.

>>10585474
>I will cross the street and constantly check behind me if a man black or not is walking behind me at night and even during the daytime, sometimes to the point of offending them or making them feel bad, but I don't care because it's a safety thing.
I'm white and I've had this done to me and I assure you it's very offensive, makes me feel like an actual rapist or something. But I understand.

>>10585466
ugh you people are so revolting, of all the arguments to make why is it always this one
you're not a second class citizen drinking from a different fountain, you're a rabid dog shitting in it

>>10585278
if they're well dressed, pass or are at least trying to, and aren't creeps, it's fine. I see a lot of anons claiming that they're all creepy, and desu if a trans woman is being weird they should be kicked out of the comm in the same way a creepy cis female would, without any woke screeching about transphobia.
I may be a bit optimistic since every trans girl I've met through lolita has been genuinely sweet and wear lolita because they love the fashion, not for an AGP fetish. I know some of them are bad though and I wish there was an easy solution to weeding out the creeps that wasn't "ban everyone but cis women."

>>10585478
Girls have had to be aware of men since they were born. Our biological programming and society literally tells us that we need to be adverse to male strangers.

not every tranny is a ita molester waiting to strike and if you believe that you're delusional. Plenty of them are just normal people that want to talk about and wear lolita, and couldn't care less about fucking you. I do think that the quality of their coords plays a big role in that though, an old man in milanoo is much more suspicious to me than someone younger who buys brand and makes nice coords

>>10585466
You... Do realize we're talking about things related to personality and behavior, right? Dysphoria is a medical condition that primarily affects people in a psychological way. Yes, It's very likely it's inborn/immutable, but it's different then what pigmentation a person's skin is. Your comparing a surface-level characteristic (a human's outward appearance) to an alternative mental state (a human's internal function).

If you want to start comparing green eyes to autism; that's your really weird, discriminatory thought pattern and I'm not gonna follow. (tl;dr thank you for comparing my black skin to a serious medical condition that needs/deserves proper care and respect to come to terms with and live with).

>>10585485
Yeah, I'd advise my girl to do the same so I try not to take it personally on a rational level, still hurts though.

Also just by avoiding certain kids of people and certain places at certain times you can lower your percentage of being raped massively.
I just can't be empathetic to women who prance about in their local detroit at 1:00 am half-naked and then bitch about rape.
>b-but I should be able to dress however I want and go to wherever I want!
As men we can't just go dressed as the damn monopoly mascot in a bad neighborhood and expect people not to rob us, can we? Get real and be a smart woman.

>>10585489
Do you really want to argue about race here? Basically modern science is proving racists right more and more with studies like this
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24326626/
"Analyses revealed that African-American males who carry the 2-repeat allele are significantly more likely than all other genotypes to engage in shooting and stabbing behaviors"
>Your comparing a surface-level characteristic (a human's outward appearance)
Race is not skin deep.
Basically being a certain race effects your "personality and behavior" too, as shown by crime statistics in every country of this planet, not just USA.

Different groups of people stressed under different enviromental factors and natural selectors for thousands of years aren't literally the same? Who would've thought?
Let's not shit up the board with this since I'm just passing by, I'm merely a tourist. My take is that people would be happier living among their own kind, and then society could function better.

>but not all of them are like that
Yeah, like trannies, right? A few of them might be good people. But we are talking of how the majority of them are.

>>10585495
>Let's not shit up the board with this
>shits up the board with this

this thread sucks, just mindless circlejerking

>>10585506
Fuck off troon

>>10585506
It's a lot less mindless than the echo-chamber your SJW ass came from.

At least if you idiots wanted to have the "real discussions." Obviously, no SJW wants to hear anything but the same few phrases echoed in a SJW echo-chamber.

>>10585507
>>10585510
did I specify which side I was on? Troon haters agreeing on how much they hate troons and people that don't hate troons agreeing with each other. Nobody is going to change their opinion from this worthless thread clogging up the board

>>10585512
Doesn't matter, newfag.

>>10585383
I work with nothing but men and it made me fucking wary of men. I pity NLOGs, one day they'll learn they're only cool drama free girls until one of their guys friends does something inappropriate, then they have no one to turn too. Tale as old as time, around men, never relax.

>>10585354
>>10585307
I'm a cis woman lmao but nice cope.

>>10585506
what the fuck do you expect from a board of mentally ill women

>>10585283
>It’s like if everyone told schizophrenics that they should listen to the voices in their head because that makes them special.

Sadly though, there's a growing movement of "neurodivergent" people thinking that mental disorders are special gifts instead of psychosocial or psychiatric deficiency.

>>10585584
KEK
I really don't get how this thread is still up. Months ago any mention of trans discourse would immediately get a thread nuked but now a thread about trans discourse is A ok. I wouldn't mind if this was a containment thread but these bitches will do anything to bring this shit up in every thread.

>>10585313
>Why do trannies always bring it to “What’s in someone’s pants/someone’s genitals”?
Because none of you stop bringing that shit up. Any defense of trans people on this board is immediately followed by "ENJOY YOUR GAPING ASSHOLE VAGINA YOU WILL NEVER BE A WOMAN WITH YOUR SAD LIMP PENIS" like damn calm down.

>>10585313
they want a solid definition of what you consider to be a woman so that they can try to find a loophole in it that will fit their dicks

I'm fine with them if they're passable.

>>10585466
Being Black isn't a mental illness, dumbass.

>>10585587
We got raided by /lgbt/ it seems. I suppose they got tired of bothering the /pol/tards.

>>10585311
you are saying this like if there was normal people on 4chan

>>10585506

I'm having a laugh. It's like Alien vs Predator.

>>10585587
this.
this thread is just an excuse to bring /pol/ here and whinge about it
it has literally been derailing so many threads and i'm sick and tired of it. why is it so hard to talk about egl on the egl board

>>10585603
If girls are warned about sexual predators the thread has done something good

>>10585598
Debatable

>>10585605
i'm obviously talking about the constant shitting up of threads going ot over this shit again and again, don't be an obtuse. if it was about predators and safety we would have a thread for that and not be here bitching

>>10585607
Then so is being female.

>>10585605
you're not some sort of hero, you're just annoying

>>10585599
is /lgbt/ mostly trannies? Wouldn't they be advocating for trans people in lolita?

>>10585636
If you had looked around the other threads that were tainted by this conversation, you'd see what I mean. This thread is basically a backlash.

>>10585495
>b-but I should be able to dress however I want and go to wherever I want!
I was almost kidnapped in broad daylight in a floor length skirt and a t shirt. What women wear literally has nothing to do with it at all. Not to mention, women are also more likely to be victimized in “safe” spaces anyway, you thick fuck.

>>10585636
/pol/ is ~50% trannies too

The solution is simple. Reintroduce woman beatings into common culture.

>>10585600
4chan_in_a_few_words.txt

>>10585365
Based madwoman

>>10585466
SJWs are so fucking racist

>>10585581
people who go by "cis" are also troons since they're transitioning from reality into Newspeak. TRA are now troons.

>>10585319
That they're not predatory males, obviously. Are you retarded?

>>10585466
Typical racist TRA appears. #yesallmen, including "trans lesbians" who are incels with extra steps.

The problem is yall engage with them, and allow them freely into your communities, because the one dumb bitch cannibalizes her own community members if they say otherwise.

Govern yourselves, encourage the 41%. Encourage them into sex work, and any other destructive behaviors. The only way to solve the tranny problem is to encourage them to destroy themselves, which isn't hard as they seem to do it quite well themselves.

theres just a fundamental problem with how guys vs girls view lolita they’ll never be the same, girls grow up wearing cute clothes and it’s nostalgic and not sexually motivated, guys wearing dresses is just fixating on and fetishising girlhood, an experience trannies will never ever grow up with. no offense but like you should find boys hobbies. why try to fit in somewhere that you could never

I hate men so fucking much and this thread just reawakened me. Why are they hardwired like that? I just can't understand.

>>10585729
have you tried visiting a specialist?

>>10585597
This basically. The discomfort of trans women in particular for me is that if they don't pass, they feel like men to me, and I am uncomfortable around 99% of men.

>>10585636
They're selfhating nazi trannies. Basically the worst humanity has to offer.

>>10585741
The therapist must be a woman, true female, and a lolita so anon may sperg about her conflicted love/hate relationship with the sissies and schlong wielders.

>>10585298
Same here anon

What's your opinion on fakebois dressing overly feminine and throwing a tantrum when someone refers to them as women?
Like... they say that being seen as a woman makes them want to kill themselves and still choose to wear frilly dresses?
How are people supposed to know that they want to chop their tits off and misgendering is basically the same thing as punching their faces?

>>10585781
>pic unrelated

But if someone fakeboy dressing like this and want to be called he/him I don't fucking get it

I'm old school, I don't care what gender you are as long as you try to look like a lolita (or ouji if you prefer). As of yet I have not experienced this but after all the praise they constantly receive on social media, it's only a matter of time before a male presenting lolita with facial hair/no wig/no makeup joins my comm. No matter how open minded I try to be, it's just an aesthetic thing and I don't like the way it looks. So it's going to be really painful when I have to smile and encourage them in person.

>>10585781
imo it just reveals how big of a clown they are
it's usually the chubby girls who think cutting their hair short and putting he/him in their instagram/tiktok bio makes them a male
you're just a female wearing a feminine fashion

>>10585781
They are annoying but at least they wont rape you

>>10585278
I wouldn't care if not for the fact 99% of the time they're pronounies, look like dudes, and can't dress themselves. The ones that actually do their best and aren't acting like snowflakes I don't care about, but then, those who don't need asspats for being trans likely won't be telling you they are trans in the first place. Even if just to avoid being lumped in with these annoying clusterfucks.

>>10585289
>I just decided to leave without saying anything because it was impossible to bring up without being “transphobic”.

Imagine getting bested by a tranny lol

>>10585320
i know this is awful anon-chan, but a knife or pepper spray probably isn't going to save you from a predatory man that attacks when you're not expecting it. unless you literally always have it out in the open at the ready, a man can and will overpower you. i'm not trying to make the point that you're incompetent; but that men can be fucking scary and when it comes down to it we can't protect ourselves from a surprise attack.

if you were ever attacked by a man suddenly, and i hope you weren't, you would know this. it's best to exclude them entirely.

>>10585324
>If they've legitimately done something wrong and are a predator then be upset, ban them, report them
That's twansphobia, those poor transwomen are just inexperienced and experimenting with their new gender identity, so let them, you fucking terf scum. >:(
>trans women not being real women
They aren't. And understanding that is not an obsession but simple logic, especially when troon make that claim whenever it's convenient. No one would give a fuck if they would just try to live in peace and fully admit they are different from women and leave them alone, like they did the past years.
>not woman enough to be in female spaces
They aren't. Putting on a dress and taking a certain amount of hormones doesn't erase 20+ years of male socialization and doesn't change their basic body structure.
>misogynistic ideas of how feminine a woman, even a cis one, has to look to be woman enough,
A masculine looking woman is still a woman. A feminine looking man is still a man.
>But the aggressive and obsessive nature of some people over trans women is just so unnecessary.
Yeah, I'm sure they do that for no reason at all. Poor trans women have never been known to intimidate and dox everyone who doesn't cater to their delusion, grooming minors from discords and reddit moderation teams, taking advantage of sjw protection, discarding any possible worries and critiques as transphobia, and acting like absolute lunatics towards actual women while libfems stand in the background and clap and fellow transwomen(the only ones they are truly listening to, aka men) do nothing to tell them to stop that shit or even whiteknight them.

I saw you on r/Lolita! I love the coord, but the length of the dress makes it look a bit ita imo. Also, the lace and cheap bows seem kinda ita too.

>>10585324
>then you shouldn't let them take up free real estate in your thoughts
Okay, "Mrs." "I am deathly afraid of any man I don't personally know well, constantly, it is rough, especially cause me being a 5' tall girl makes it even scarier to walk alone at night or interact with a male stranger". Maybe just stop being so bigoted and letting men live rent free in your head. Just ignore him or embrace your rapist. :)
>unless they're actually doing something wrong or legitimately threatening
They do, as every terf ever points out.

>>10585824
It’s already happened anon-kun. Trust me, I didn’t spend the last five years taking classes just to let it happen again.

You are absolutely right, men are stupid strong and can overpower you, but I’m also an overly cautious weirdo who was gifted a keychain pocket knife..... so I guess I speak from personal experience when I offer that advice.

I just don’t believe in living my life hung up on someone else’s bullshit. If a comm wants to have men and trannies in their comm, that’s fine, just don’t join and create a comm that is women’s only. It’s not that difficult and I can’t see why the hell people are so up in arms about an easily fixable situation.

>>10585304
>>10585581
Trannies don't give a shit about you.

>>10585830
read the room, ita

Is it wrong to just want an anti-sjw safe space to post our coords anons? Somewhere where troons are banned if they're not passable or putting in the effort. Where asspats aren't handed about to shitty coords and obvious men in dresses.

>>10585840
as much as i agree, whenever i read an anon posting about wanting an anti-sjw space i just think that they're that gross bunnita person.

there's already an ok vetted discord, but the head mod is insane and there are a couple genderspecials. nobody predatory though.

>>10585831

I didn't ever say you need to embrace trans people. You don't. And walking or being alone at night is a far cry from whining about trannies in an online space. I don't like most men so I avoid them irl or ignore them when it comes to their bullshit online. I have just suggested you do the same. You can easily avoid a non passing tranny or comms that allow them, they look like dudes. If they pass and act like a woman and aren't being creepy then they aren't likely to be a dangerous one. I fail to see where there is any contradiction in my statement.

>>10585841

This. Honestly for all the asspats and woke virtue signaling it is honestly better than literal nazis.

Although on outing nazis cgl has done way more work than these woke retards ironically enough.

>>10585330
That anon wasn't even talking about public restrooms, but trannies being more likely to be a danger than tall women (because, surprise surpsise, they're delusional and mentally ill men who are actively getting enabled in their derangement now), which the article showed. Literally just look at the link >>10585284 posted or shit like >>10585346.

>>10585466
The issues racists are vocal about are all just issues caused by a certain gender regardless of race.

>>10585584
>>10585587
>board of mentally ill women
>these bitches won't shut up
I will never understand what men and trannies get out of coming here AND thinking they have any say about the board.

>>10585844
>I didn't ever say you need to embrace trans people. You don't.
So you didn't imply we should let them in female spaces?
>And walking or being alone at night is a far cry from whining about trannies in an online space.
That's not what you said, you said you're deathly afraid of any man you don't personally know well and named an example of walking alone at night. How is your fear and dislike justified but when those same men you're afraid of put on a cheap amazon wig and say they're women, then suddenly your worry is, by your own words, "whining" and "obsessive" and "letting them live rent free in your thoughts" and "not legitimately threatening".

> You can easily avoid a non passing tranny or comms that allow them, they look like dudes. If they pass and act like a woman and aren't being creepy then they aren't likely to be a dangerous one.
Huh? I thought judging trannies by how feminine they look or "like enough of a woman" is rooted in misogynism? Be honest with me, you're just >>10585478 larping, aren't you?

>>10585858
Right? The thing that makes me laugh is when people come on here and think this is isolated behavior to women on a 4chan board.

Bitch, we are anonymous. You'd be surprised how many girls are two faced IRL. You can definitely tell who isn't a girl, on here. Because we're all this same way IRL, but we're just going to be nice to your face.

>>10585872
I think you're just severely mentally ill. I'm a straight forward person, I don't talk shit about people behind their backs. The shit I say here isn't anything I wouldn't or haven't already said to someone's face. My friends are the same way and I believe most people are too. There's no reason to fill your life with so much negativity, you know? You're probably just a really toxic person and you surround yourself with toxic people so if the shoe fits, bitch.
And I said what I said, I'm tired of every thread being shit up with trans discourse. Take that shit somewhere else, the rest of us are just trying to talk about fashion.

>>10585867
My fear of men leads me to avoid them. If you fear that all visibly trans women are predators/the same as men, then avoid them too? I also said in another post that a non passing trans woman or a strong masculine looking cis woman looks dangerous to me from a distance and I would avoid them too just like I do with men cause they look like one and I'm alone or whatever, their feelings be damned because if they look dangerous I'm scared.

In the context of lolita, I don't care if a comm excludes or includes trannies really, I just said there's no reason to do so unless the individual has proven themselves dangerous (red flags), and if you do want to avoid all trans people, you'll only be able to avoid the ones who through behavior or appearance don't pass because unless they tell you you can't tell if they're trans or just an ugly or masc looking woman and they'll basically just fly under the radar. The constantly trying to clock anyone not dainty enough as a tranny hurts cis women which is another reason to just be chill about it unless there are warning signs, do you know how many young cis girls especially probably experience trauma from being misgendered or just not treated as feminine enough? As a girl who looks pretty feminine (short, soft face, thin, boobs/butt, etc.) even I have some anxiety that I am never feminine enough because of one incident as a kid where my mom had my hair done super short and I wore pants in kindergarten and got mistaken for a boy. Small things like that potentially happening to impressionable people (since lolita comms often allow minors) is more harmful than a passing, non dangerous trans woman.

I think the issue is assuming every trans woman is the same as the men in dresses on cof. Anyone regularly posting there is somewhat there for attention, and those types of people all around are annoying. Look at DDZeta, the ponytail cardigan never matching girl, etc. I wouldn't want to deal with anyone who is attention hungry.

>>10585877
This. I think trying to defend or tell people you don't mind "the good transes" on 4chan is just gonna wear you down because the angry people are going to fight back aggressively, and even when you just say you don't care and just wanna talk about clothes you get accused of being a man with a sissy fetish trying to infiltrate vulnerable lolita communities lol

>>10585877
If you want to claim almost all women are mentally ill for being that way, sure. It's not isolated and it's ignorant to pretend like women aren't like this already.

>>10585877
You just sound dumb as shit.

>>10585877
>There's no reason to fill your life with so much negativity
>goes out of their way to invade places that don't like or want you
That's nice and all, but what the fuck are you doing on this board, let alone this thread? What makes you think anyone cares about your blogposting or your bitching about how mean gulls are on the very same place you're bitching about?
Just go back to facebook or instagram or twitter or literally everywhere else on the internet.

>>10585884
100% agree with this anon.

Some self righteous newfag comes onto 4chan and thinks it should be their personal blog. Go to reddit or something else, if you don't like 4chan culture.

>>10585810
/thread

>>10585840
i'm hoping there's a place like this that i just haven't found yet

>>10585386
lole

>>10585900
SJWs get very little grounding in anonymous sites. Might just need to create a *chan website and post with masks or blurred faces. I'd be wary to shit up 4chan with namefagging, despite people liking it.

I personally don't have any problem with trans women as long as they look like actual women and as long as they don't bring up being trans (welp, maybe just to clarify something)
Can't stand trannies in wigs and dresses claming to be women

>>10585912
I feel like this is the most common take people have but TERFs act like anyone who thinks this must want to bend over and let men in wigs raw dog us on the reg

>>10585879
but there is good reason to keep them out of girls spaces theres 0 way to tell a creepy trans person from a man in dress. they are both sexually fixated on women’s clothes and are not a woman. its against the nature to want to wear a girls clothes as a man. and you should not encourage man to wear dress in any form bc he is not a girl and cant be so there is no point in trying to coddle a feeling he should not be trying to have anyway

>>10585909
a fediverse node for lolita would be nice seeing centralized service is going the way of the dodo

>>10585879
>>10585844
>>10585324
Lmao the cognitive dissonance. Those trannies are men. And they never fucking pass in real life, you always notice.

>>10585913
you'll get called a terf if >>10585912 is your take

>>10585849
any space obsessed with being pro or anti some unrelated thing is going to be shit, this is exactly what happens, they revolve the narrative around themselves and refuse to let you just enjoy things

>>10585946
>they revolve the narrative around themselves and refuse to let you just enjoy things
you mean troons?

>>10585913
>>10585937
This is where I get stuck with the two brolitas that out as trans in my comm.

One is really difficult. In shared spaces like irl meets or online chat groups, whenever a topic or news about something controversial that affected a women (unfair treatment, flaws in healthcare, misogyny) happened, he would immediately go BUT WHAT ABOUT TRANS WOMEN and start rattling off how trans women are more marginalized and suffer more... so basically, silencing us (a group of women) from speaking about issues of being a woman freely. It would then be awkward and people would start talking about trans women struggles because no one felt comfortable enough to loop it back to the original topic. He effectively always made it a competition that trans women are more oppressed than women, which is hilarious since he was putting women's issues below him. He also threw TERF around at people as another way of saying Bitch, which imo is just another way to be misogynistic since men never get called terfs, and just has an air about him that women are below him. Yet most of my comm lets this slide and enables him, despite me seeing lots of subtle uncomfortable behavior from most of my comm.

(He would also constantly play a victim in every facet of his life and often times his female friends would fight his battles for him, which he puppet mastered perfectly. He also tried to guilt people in person and online into donating to his surgeries, despite having many financial resources and lots of expensive hobbies he pursued during the entire process.)

The other isn't trying to transition, just uses she/her pronouns and became a little too opinionated about women's rights in a sort of uncomfortable "performative" way, but otherwise isn't bad. However in lolita, it is hard to take him seriously in the fashion since he just looks like an unkempt man in a dress and has gross manners with how he eats and talks, so it's hard to respect him in the fashion, if that makes sense?

>>10585956
There's a lot of clear misogyny that trans have, honestly. When you're not trying to be 'like us' but be 'better than us' and make a collective of trans-like-minded people, then you're not one of us.

I think there's just a lot of misogyny still rooted in trans behavior. I'm glad we aren't passing this recent equality law, because troons take shit too far.

>>10585877
People being mean behind your back isn't being mentally ill, it's very common. People aren't little balls of kindness and acceptance. People dislike, and want to share that dislike just as much as they want to share liking stuff. That's why the whole make a save space where everyone is nice doesn't work. The more people are forced to be nice, just the meaner they get behind people's back to compensate for cropped up feelings. And sooner or later people will find out, and they just get more hurt than if people who'd have been able to be mean in their faces before because the meanness is worse and they're used to less.

> I'm a straight forward person
So am I. But when I hate on someone about something trivial I still make sure that person doesn't know about it. Partly because I'm not gonna make a stranger feel bad for nothing, partly because I don't want drama for a stranger. If the stranger asks my opinion they can get it honestly, but otherwise. If you feel like you need to tell people in their face each time you have an opinion, trust me, you'll be considered the bitch in no time. And no one is going to trust you either because you just tell people who shouldn't know. Being straightforward and knowing when to talk are two different things.

And I don't believe anything like "I'm just not thinking mean things". Because no one is always nice and kind and likes everything. That would be horrible unhealthy to try to be. Honestly, never talking shit behing anyone's back would be closer to being mentally ill than doing so every now and then.

>>10585963
>never talking shit behing anyone's back would be closer to being mentally ill than doing so every now and then

Nayrt but how is having enough confidence or understanding with the people you interact with to tell them how you feel to their face a sign of mental illness? That's moreso a sign of emotional maturity.

>>10585963
Gonna be real, but the more I read this and see it quoted
>>10585877 sounds like a troon. They probably don't realize outside of the safe spaces they create and ostracize others in, that people end up resenting them. Especially the people who are "forced to be kind" to them.

>>10585963
As for 4chan. It's an anonymous place literally made to be able to talk on unfiltered, much like when you laugh with friends behind peoples back to share the dislike. So unless you want to read exactly that, don't come here. No one is going to be nice and have only good opinions here, especially not if the only reason would be to not hurt peoples feelings or to avoid getting into drama. You're bound to find the worst and most offensive opinions as those can be voiced the least elsewhere. If that hurts your feelings to much, just fucking leave this site and don't look back.

>>10585965
I don't think everything calls for confrontation. Saying something to someone's face is confrontation and believe it or not 'emotional maturity' isn't saying something to someone's face.

The issue is that troons and LGBTQ don't let people avoid things and force others to believe shit like a fucking cult. So you CAN'T say anything, unless you want someone to ignorantly argue their beliefs that you have to assimilate to.

>>10585966
Kek everyone who isn't obsessed with trannies is a troon got it

>>10585967
Cgl has other, less petty uses, as do other boards: I use this board to stay up to date on brand stuff since i don't check sm a lot/it is never chronological anymore, and for dd and sales posts or general fun discussion

Everyone here isn't here to whine about people they hate, not saying no one is, but the purpose of the board is discussion about lolita and cosplay adjacent shit, sometimes that involves specific people but not always. Usually the people who are like "waahhh we come here to be salty seagulls being mean and catty is what cgl is about" are men/trannies larping as female stereotypes of being manipulative and bitchy and mean to try to pretend their worldview/assumptions about all women are correct, or just literally underage people who think 4chan is some big bad mean place when it's really just become a containment site for the majority of autism on the internet.

>>10585970
>Saying something to someone's face is confrontation

>>10585970
You don't have to be confrontational to tell people how you feel about something, that's the thing. The assumption that being straight with people about your feelings or thoughts is the same as being confrontational is silly.

Also many "TERFs" and gulls are gay as shit, they don't hate LGB stuff in general, just the T lol, so trying to say it's all gays are a problem and forcing beliefs on people is just retarded in this conversation.

>>10585965
>having enough confidence or understanding with the people you interact with to tell them how you feel to their face
Fucking read. You're not having confidence, that's just a way to hide being a bitch behind "honesty" and "being real". People will have negative opinions all the time, no one likes everything. You'll be so bad at taking social clues (mentally illness option 1, probably some form of autism or worse) or so unsympathetic that you feel the need to tell people negative shit when it's not needed (mentally ill option 2, can range from autism to anti-social personality disorder), or you're in a mental state where nothing is ever negative (which would be unhealthy as fuck because it's delusional, so mentally ill option 3). Never wanting to share negative things you see/experience isn't healthy either (mentally ill option 4).

So yes. it's not courage or confidence. It's lack of understanding social norms and/or hiding being a bitch behind "honesty" and "being real".

Imagine sitting in a train with someone who's make-up looks like a clown. Or a rediculous looking trannie lolita. Telling them in their face how you think they look is rude. Laughing with friends about it when you're home isn't hurting anyone. If can only think positive stuff, we'll get back at mentally ill option 3 if we keep this kind of examples up long enough. It's decency not to do such things in peoples face. And the more people block out a normal reaction to critism of any sort, including concrit, the more people resort to talking about it somewhere where it doesn't cause issue for anyone unless they come looking for it. In which case, why do that if you don't want to hear it? Just like that, don't visit 4chan if you want to hear nice people only.

>>10585974
I know cgl isn't so bad. I come here for the discussions mainly too. But cgl also isn't positive for the sake of giving asspats, and those who try are called out that it's not asspat worthy. That's exactly why I like cgl. It's not evil, but people aren't sugar canes either.

I just meant to say. If all you want to hear is nice stuff, cgl isn't for you. Because even if people are much more reasonable than snowflakes on other social medias make it out to be. Cgl won't always be nice and a happy little everything is cool kinda place, and you're bound to run into mean comments. If you can't deal with that, it's just better not to go to it. because it's made in a way that people can be honest even if it's mean, and you won't be able to stop that.

>>10585979
I guess I should have clarified that I speak my mind when it's something important. Someone having shitty makeup or looking bad in my presence isn't important enough for me to waste my time talking or thinking that much about.

I'm never a bitch to people under a guise of honesty, but I also don't waste time worrying about dumb shit like what other people are doing if it isn't hurting anyone?

I have negative thoughts but disliking what someone else looks like isn't important enough for me to talk about way later with my friends because I've probably forgotten about it.

I'm not the original anon talking about being straight with people but I think it is silly to act like you're mentally ill to not be someone who feels the need to complain about everything or one they dislike behind their backs all the time. You're acting like it's not possible to have a negative thought and not say it out loud at some point?

>>10585986
>worrying about dumb shit like what other people are doing if it isn't hurting anyone
You think people talking behind you back really worry? They likely just enjoy themselves laughing about something ridiculous they saw the other day and forget about it. Most people hate on stuff while not really caring much, unless it's a continuous issue like the trannie thing here, which causes enough people to care to make a board and keep it active at least.

>not be someone who feels the need to complain about everything or one they dislike behind their backs all the time
Here you're misunderstanding me. I'm not saying they do it about everything or all the time. But people do do it naturally every once in a while. Often just casually, not in a way they care so much about it.

>You're acting like it's not possible to have a negative thought and not say it out loud at some point?
Not all thoughts, but never saying any of them isn't healthy at all indeed. That just feels like you must be super lonely. Because it's something people tend to do casually with people they're somewhat close with or share something with.

>>10585986
Take just take a moment ago. A non lolita sale with only shipping in my country. The person promised me tracked shipping 3 times. The forgot and acts like "sorry mistake, well hope it'll ends well" and that's it. So I complain about a friend who's into the same hobby about this happening and how annoyed I am at people lacking basic manners of acting like a responsibile adult on private sales. Am I being mean about her? Yes. Does it do me any good to do it in her face? No, it'll likely just ends up in a fight and the package won't get tracking. I likely end up mention that it's not really acceptable to break deals like that and otherwise just put it in feedback. Similarly, when I see someone look so weird it makes me laugh, I may text a friend who I know has similar view on appearance to share the laughter, but I won't be mean in the persons face. It's natural. People do this, even when they're not a bitch. Because people are herd animals, we like to share. Good and bad things. Little and big things. But only bitches I've seen continuously hide behind "being real". Reminds me of how literally every bitch in ANTM says they're not a bitch, they're just "being real" and others just can't take "reallness".

>>10586012
>Reminds me of how literally every bitch in ANTM says they're not a bitch, they're just "being real" and others just can't take "reallness".
Little addon. Yes I know ANTM is completely staged by Tyra fucking over contestants. It's about the caricature of typical "real" bitches it reminded me of, not ANTM bitches necessarily being true to how they're portraited in the show.

>>10586009
>I'm lonely bc I don't say all my negative thoughts out loud kek

I literally said I say negative things when they're relatively important, but if it's negative but small like someone being ugly out in the world, I just don't really care. I have enough real problems I go to therapy for to waste time on that. I do say random stupid crackhead shit and inside jokes out loud amongst my loved ones all the time, but none of those jokes I have are like, trash talking a stranger in particular.

>>10586012
Complaining about a reasonable thing to be upset about is not how I define legit shit talking. It's also all about what is practical, I tend not to bother with things that don't help a situation, which is what you're talking about here. Doesn't fix anything to tell the person your opinion on their manners in particular, but it helps them learn to be a better seller and you to get tracking on your package to simply tell them it is not cool of them to break a deal. You can say how you feel to them without it being mean, you're just adding the "mean" (this is imo not actually mean and more just you having legit reason to be upset over an unprofessional seller and expressing that) parts later when you talk to your friend.

Surprise, everyone interacts with others differently, the assumption someone is mentally ill because they don't behave exactly like you in every situation or doesn't get bothered enough to talk about it by the exact same subjects is retarded and makes you sound like a sheltered child lol.

>>10585956
Are you talking about that guy that recently came out as trans in the LA community?

because if you are then I will say, I can't see how J is a transwoman at all, It was already uncomfortable with them around when they were just a gay guy in frilly dresses. He's not as stellar as he thinks he is, just awfully cringey. they act/behave the same as they were before they came out as trans. Nothing really change, it might even be worse now

Pretty much every mtf tranny I've ever met has been extremely creepy and unsettling to be around. I am a lonelita, so I've never been in a comm with one, but anytime I've met them casually or during a convention it's always the same. I'm sure they are not all like that, but from my personal experience I haven't met one that wasn't creepy. I can see why a lot of women feel this way since that seems to be a common experience. Unless the ones that AREN'T creepy are just normal and passing and fly under the radar.

>>10585283
>has issues
>takes it out on others
Therapy

>>10586039
In her defense, males (I assuming including people whose gender is female but sex is male if you want to put it politely) actually respond to trauma or abuse as a child by lashing out or inflicting similar abuse and trauma on others as adults in a violent way, whereas women are far less likely to do this.

Many trans people have trauma they have experienced because of their identity and since trans women are still male genetically, they may unwittingly be more predisposed to lash out at others in response to their unaddressed trauma than a trans man or cis woman is. They should also be in therapy beyond just getting access to hormones if they have other trauma they are dealing with to look for good ways to cope. Most adults should be in therapy desu.

>>10586039
How is avoiding someone that makes her uncomfortable taking it out on others?
You sound like someone who got mas as a kid when the teacher didn't force the other kids to play with you cause you were annoying.

>>10586051
Used to be that transgender candidates had to go to therapy for a long time BEFORE getting approved for hrt and surgery. So if these people have been traumatized, and that's why they want to genderswap, then they're not really trans.

>>10586084
I wasn't saying the trauma is what is making them switch genders, but that their sex predisposes them regardless of gender identity to being more likely to lash out at others due to trauma they may have been exposed to BECAUSE they're trans (bullying, unsupportive family, potential sexual assault, etc.). Males respond to these things with violent or antisocial behavioral patterns (the kind that land you in jail) far more than females unfortunately.

That's why I said they should also look into therapy beyond the hormone approval related stuff. Even if they are legit trans, they could experience more trauma because of it than if they weren't and still need help with that. Plus like I said most adult prolly need therapy.

>>10586090
>cis people thinking they know about being trans and should dictate their body's.
K
>not understanding that testosterone causes violent behavior which is actively blocked in trans women
K

>>10586104
Imagine thinking that someone saying everyone needs therapy is being transphobic. And thinking every trans woman is on HRT. Many are not.

>>10586104
Either learn to read or dilate pls

>>10586105
What I'm saying is cis people shouldn't dictate trans issues, any more then men should dictate womens issues. If you cant understand this your a hypocrite.

>>10586110
I never dictated a trans issue at all. All I said was literally everyone is probably better off going to therapy, and stated some facts about the male sex.

I also don't care about trans people in particular and if I was invested in trans issues your retarded "don't dictate my issues" reeing would just make me want to change my mind and avoid all of you as well. Maybe act less male and aggressive and women wouldn't clock you immediately.

>>10586110

You always do this, the second someone seems the tiniest bit on your side, you attack and try to control them and turn them into a handmaiden. Fuck off. It's always the white ones too. Black trans people are just out here passing and living life but y'all are always trying to start some shit because white people, especially males, are just born and raised entitled and can't shake that entitlement even with all the estrogen in the world. Lesbians and even bi women don't want your limp dicks, go tweet about how you're going to rape gay women who won't suck them.

>>10586113
>defends oneself
Oooo so male

Crossboarder, lolita wife told me about this thread.
Circle the wagons. Gatekeep. NEVER allow these people to invade your space.
Men's spaces have fallen, there simply aren't any. The thought of creating one is socially unacceptable, at least in the United States. If you create one, someone will find out, and you'd better hope the people around you are similarly uncaring/unaffected about cancel culture. From what I can tell, women's spaces are under even greater threat.
See, a man's space being invaded and taken is simply a social tragedy. The man is pushed out, and that's it. But a woman's space being invaded comes with real physical danger. Trans that try to make every videogame about them are just annoying at best and damaging to the community at worse. But trans that try to weasel their way into your spaces are predators, never assume otherwise.

Never assume otherwise. Even if they're not all predators, it's not worth the risk. Circle the wagons, don't let this happen. Push back as hard as you can, it's the only way.

>>10586190
go back to /r9k/ larper

>>10586205
Troons get the rope

>>10586190
Imagine seething so hard you wrote all this.

Now that I think about it lolita isn't even exclusively female, is it? So all this isn't even relevent.

>>10586227
A fashion interest about wearing frilly dresses with prints and having tea parties or whatever isn't exclusively female...

>>10586039
not talking to troons or ignoring them completely isn't "taking it out on others"

>>10586104
i don't care how many cross sex hormones a tranny takes, they'll always be a male and that will reflect in their actions and speech.

>>10585872
>female population on /cgl/ is representative of the majority of females irl
>yellow fever toxic backstabbing niche clothing obsessed females is what every female is at heart
Doubt.

>You can definitely tell who isn't a girl, on here.
>wishful thinking

be fucking normal and stop saying slurs. christ

stop being all pissy about your pronouns it gets fucking annoying. We get it, you want to be a womxn. Just keep it to yourself (haha no one cares)

They should kill themselves

>>10588980
/thread

>>10586021
Jordy?

>>10585291
I've met both cases at the same time, anorexic and trans (girl to boy). They both needed psychiatric help and had toxic families who fueled the fire by trying to control them like babies, doctors included. Only one is allowed to continue mutilating herself, the other gets scolded like a child when both are 20+ years old.

Fuck this gay Earth.

>>10590328
anon used their first letter in their name, dumbfuck

>>10590328
ewww gross

>>10586039
You will never be a woman

doesn't matter to me if they don't sexualize lolita

I feel like a lot of women here have never actually interacted with MTFs in real life because in my experience most of them are not creepy predators but rather weird introverted autistic men. But that's just my experience living in Silicon Valley