/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

A fair bit of oldschool Moitie pieces aren't THAT great, it's largely hype

>>10565893
Shit I thought this was the unpopular opinions thread I'm really tired

>>10565895
Well, it does count as a confession!
Get some rest, anon, i hope you sleep well

I want to get a motie dress purely for the clout/status symbol. But every time I save up enough money for one, I just can't bring myself to buy one. Stylistically, I think I prefer atelier boz and miho matsuda

>>10565924
Same about wanting motie just because. Except I'm cheap so it's doesn't have to be a dress, it would be nice to just have something in their trademark blue. I'm not looking to buy anything soon but if something at a good price pops up second hand...

I started to hate browsing taobao/taobao resellers because the model shots made me feel lowkey uncomfortable. Almost every item listing has images of those overly photoshopped and airbrushed, uncanny-looking models who all look alike and I honestly couldn't stand seeing them anymore, it just spoiled the fun of buying taobao for me and I haven't bought any in years (good for me because it only gets worse and we will never return to the look of frumpy GLB models with their funny wigs and comparatively natural-looking faces).

>>10565934
i hate them too,anon

Mine is that i just hate most small taobao brands. Their dresses are usually so distasteful,look shiny, have eyesore prints, cheap chiffon.. I wish noobs weren't directed to taobao constantly, it's like the fastfashion of lolita and they end up looking like all those tiktok lolitas, is this an unpopular opinion?

>>10565825
>Aren't we trying to get away from ageplay?
No

I think baby motifs (stuff like rattles, baby bottles, toys etc) are super cute but I’m scared people will think that in my spare time I shit myself in a diaper and scream my head off all day

>>10565924
Since when has moitie become a status symbol?

>>10565924

I have sort of bought mmm because of the hype. I was lucky to get one on cc for pretty cheap but i kind of feel weird that I definitely didn't want it as much as some diehard mmm fans. It's a really fucking nice dress though so they'll have to pry it from my cold dead hands.

>>10566001
i wear them and don't give af. To me, these baby shower motif's just remind me of all my positive memories going to baby shower's of my friend's and family where we are celebrating the mother and her baby. Mexican baby showers be lit brah

>>10566002
It always has been. In gothic moitie is seen as the most valued brand, it keeps its resale value high too.

>>10565940
based

>>10566001
toy prints are the best prints. normies will think you're weird no matter what sort of pastel vomit you're wearing, so wear what you like. >>10566008 has the right idea

>>10565939
I'd say it isn't necessarily unpopular, but there's two definitive camps when it comes to taobao. I definitely don't like what the fashion has become and I feel like the influx of inexpensive "fast fashion" lolita (which isn't representative of all of taobao, but enough that it's often synonymous) is the main culprit.

My confession is I think classic and gothic lolitas are truer to the altfashion spirit and mentality than most sweet lolitas. People can wear the fashion how they want, but I feel like the divide between sweet and other lolita substyles is greater than the divide between lolitas
and other altfashion styles. They've created their own bubble.

>>10565924
>miho matsuda
miho matsuda is great because it's stylistically perfect and impeccably tailored but for some reason has minimal value on cc and secondhand sites

I can’t wear lolita until the end of april due to a mishap with moving and I miss it so so much. I feel naked going outside in normie clothes, it just feels so wrong for some reason. I know I should just suck it up but waiting is hard

>>10566002
After their brand revival and retards hyping it up here.

>>10566088
Agree. It's often not even in synthetic fibers like most of boz's stuff.

Being a lesbian lolita is causing me brain damage because everyone looks so cute and I hate being single

>>10566184
it was actually much more of a status symbol before the revival

I don't take people seriously who shit on solids and think that prints are always superior, especially if they happen to be taobao-chans too. Calling solids "non-print" grinds my gears too, they were there first bitch! People also need to stop recommending taobao to newbies as the gateway to the fashion. Not only has it become more complicated to navigate than before, the quality is oftentimes questionable. Getting cheap brand secondhand is so much easier and will keep its value, not to mention look so much better than taobao. Even accessories can be hit or miss, only bags and shoes are really worth it.

>>10566290
I 100% agree!
I'd even go as far to say that solids are essential in every lolita wardrobe as they're versatile and can be dressed up or dressed down, used as a base for ott or experimental looks or for casual wear, you just gotta love solids man I don't get people who shit on them?

i searched for my dream dress years (it's from a defunct brand) and when it finally showed up i thought i didn't buy it because i can buy 3 other dresses with the same amount of money

>>10566294
Ayrt and I couldn't agree more, solids are love <3 you can do almost any theme and color combination under the sun with them, I'm pretty sure that people who don't appreciate them have no real idea about quality and don't know how to coord solids anyway

>>10566290
i have been brainwashed to think solids are too expensive. the complexity of the pattern is often the same as printed dresses but printed dresses feel more original and worth the price.

>>10566290
>they were there first bitch!
Arguable

>>10566269
fwiw i love lesbians in our community (and in general) because they're sweet to women and don't usually have that "everything is a competition with other women" vibe. like i've never met a lesbian who tore other women down like straight women tend to do.

godspeed, i hope you find your cute lolita gf

Hating on burando and actively avoiding purchasing from them for whatever reason is like giving the people who nurtured the fashion a slap to the face. Even if you love the Taobao aesthetic, you should still show some respect to the brands that inspired that aesthetic and maybe toss them a few coins when they do produce something you like.

>>10566290
People who shit on solids are 100% itas and have shit taste

>>10566290
out of curiosity, what is the english word for like..prints that are very simple/traditional, like small florals or gingham check? they are not solids but i wouldn't lump them in with thematic prints either

>>10566355
patterns?

solids are adorable but I always get weird comments when I wear solids out in the world that I never get with prints

>>10566323
lesbians are superior lolitas for these reasons.

I love fatty chans and bodyposi lolita youtubers. More brand for the increasingly closing gap of skinny westerners.
That self proclaimed "swole ita" on is a great example. Fat, in denial, getting old, ugly face. Great personality though. Her content is easier to sit through than scarfingscarves. I'd take a hundred bodyposi nobodies over one salty boring straight cunt with dry hair.

>>10566367
>I'd take a hundred bodyposi nobodies over one salty boring straight cunt with dry hair.
honestly THIS

>>10566269
>Being a lesbian lolita is causing me brain damage because

I thought you're going to continue "because a bunch of frilly nuts made me question my faith in womanhood"

>>10566323
I’ve only had one bad experience with a lesbian lolita. She is bat shit crazy and still tries to harass me but everyone else is great.

>>10566367
>swole ita
who? genuinely asking

I did a project on lolita for my Japanese class and one of my classmates, who is a man easily 40+, asked me if it's related to akihabara maids and I'm not sure if it was an innocent question or something gross but either way i'm kind of uncomfortable

>>10566402
https://youtu.be/VED5rtzaaXo

>>10566356
patterns!!! thank you kind anon. patterned dresses are my favorite over solids and major prints

>>10566290
I call them nonprints because polka dots and gingham aren’t solids, dumbass.

>>10566367
>More brand for the increasingly closing gap of skinny westerners.
Honestly based now that I think about it. Just let them make their content and leave the good dresses for us
>>10566403
It's hard to tell the intentions with middle-aged people, I find. He could just be curious or maybe worried, or he could very much be a creep and/or concern trolling. I called my mom during quarantine last year and sent a few coord pictures her way, and she started sending me documentaries about maid cafes in Japan for a good month afterward.

>>10566404
Not sure I can trust someone's opinion who wears such an awful tank-top.

Genuine question - has anyone else had problems with that blouse or is it ripping because she doesnt fit it? I was considering buying it.

>>10566445
it's only ripping because it doesn't fit

but nonny... even if it's not going to wrap, it looks like saran wrap.

>>10566445
it's only ripping because it doesn't fit

but nonny... even if it's not going to rip, it looks like saran wrap.

>>10566445
I also think it's a size issue but do get yourself something better anon. Blouses of that kind are usually weirdly-constructed, bad quality and will make you sweat (+ stink) easily.

>>10566448
I didn't even open the video so I'm gonna guess... is that one of the kaneko/esprit de la noblesse ones?

Just wanted to share my favourite lolita styles so you can tell me how awful they are and how shit I am for liking them.

. sweet
. sweet OTT
. military
. punk

btw pic related, rate me and my comm

I have bpd and bipolar and spent soooooo much money during a manic episode and now I have to sell my lolita to afford to eat.
Plus side I'm medicated now so I'm not either depressed or hearing voices. BPD still sucks tho.

>>10566496
before you said hearing voices I was going to ask if you were me lol. I have BPD and comorbid bipolar 1. I'm glad you're medicated now but I'm sorry you have to sell stuff for food :( a manic episode left me needing to file actual bankruptcy so I've been there, if I didn't have a safety net I'd have had to do the same

I really think we should start culling people who have BPD/NPD etc. They offer no value to society and 99.9999% of the time are actually a massive detriment leaving a trail of destruction and ruining other people’s lives.

>>10566505
Please. Put me out of my misery.

>>10566505
I’m ready for the culling any day now anon. Tired of the misinformation

>>10566500
the best hallucination I had was the dial up internet sound following me everywhere.

I want lose weight so I look better in lolita and can buy cuter otome type dresses. I'm a size 18 to 20, I can't even wear half my kawaii wardrobe, it's so depressing.

>>10566505
borderlines will be lining up to be culled and trying to skip each other in line

narcs will rage tf out and not go down without a fight and many casualties

I just buy what's trendy so other people can't have it. I'm mostly goth but ever since the sweet revival I've been buying a ton of sweet, old and new.

>>10566514
yeah for real start culling the narcissists they’re the ones who actually abuse and kill people

>>10566519
BPDs have an insane rate of abusing other people anon

My "comm leader" is super irritating. She an infamous, unfixable ita and literally the only reason she is supposedly the leader is because she makes more events than other people. No one will ever say shit off anon because she's black and would absolutely make it about that.

>>10566522
have you ever met someone with npd? nothing they do can be wrong no matter what, and they will try and get anyone they can against the person they’re abusing. BPD abuse only stems from other abuse, NPD abuse just stems from the person with the disorder deciding they don’t want to be wrong

>>10566524
Sounds like you’re real assblasted about people not paying attention to you. Maybe you should idk stop vendettaposting her every two seconds and step up your own game

>>10566525
COPE harder you abusive fuck. BPD is just as bad for the people around them as NPD

>>10566525
>it’s not as bad for me to abuse people because I was abused

Typical BPD delusion and self victimizing

>>10566525
>NPD abuse just stems from the person with the disorder deciding they don’t want to be wrong
retard level take

>>10566526
This is the first time I've posted about this and I really don't want attention believe it or not, which is one of the reasons I almost never go to meets. It's just sad that such a disagreeable flake who can't dress herself is leading other younger lolitas and no one could say anything even privately. I really just miss my old comm where the girls actually looked good or at least improved with guidance and the perma-itas were very rare. Lone lolita is looking more appealing everyday.

>>10566525
Every single cluster B personality disorder is terrible and insufferable to be around them. Maybe if you had one of the anxious personality disorder types you’d be more sympathetic but cluster B people are horrible.

>>10566528
>>10566531
>>10566534
>t. narcissists

>>10566538
Classic BPDfag. Everyone who can see through you is a narc! You poor little misunderstood babby.

>>10566539
A classic narcissist move is to deflect and misinform so that you can continue to manipulate information and people around you! round of applause everyone for this dipshit who thinks people can’t see how wrong they are. Are you mad people see through your lies nonny?

i do feel bad for people with cluster b disorders but at the same time justifying your abusive behaviors is a big nono. there's only one anon doing it itt though so whatever

my confession is i keep buying lolita and using paypal credit... i think i owe 2000 rn? i pay half the time and use credit the other half. even though i'm just working a uni research job rn, i'm graduating soon/have a job deal so i keep justifying it knowing i'll make enough to pay it off soon

>>10566541
bpd friend if you actually want people to listen/take your points about misinformation seriously, this isn't the way to do it... like it's just making a bad impression worse. pls no be mad but calling people narcs for disagreeing just isn't it

>>10566541
Seethe harder. It’s all you BPD trash do anyway. Rage against people because you can’t see yourself as anything other than a victim.

got kicked from my comm because of one incident months ago. held on to some friendships and we'll still have unofficial meets but feelsbadman. I might appeal in a year or so.

>>10566545
I don’t need to change the minds of trolls on cgl lol I just troll back and laugh at how hard they try

>>10566550
At least I’m capable of having relationships where I don’t abuse people.

>>10566550
At least I’m capable of having relationships where I don’t abuse people. No one will ever really love you because of how you are. You know it deep down, too.

>>10566548
What'd you do tho?

>>10566548
what happened?

>>10566555
I’ve already accepted the fact i’m unlovable, will you ever accept the fact that you can do wrong? at least I am somewhat aware of what I do wrong

>>10566562
I’m wrong about a lot of things, it’s only human. But one thing I’m positive that I’m right about is that you should kill yourself, you’d do the rest of the world a favor.

>>10566548
what was the incident,please

>>10566563
You first

>>10566571
I bet you’re just SEETHING that you can’t threaten me in person. We can all feel the BPD rage radiating off your post.

>>10566576
I’m not the one who said kill yourself, but okay whatever helps you sleep at night

>>10566580
In defense of that, I think most people would agree that if people with BPD didn’t exist the world would be a better place.

>>10566582
Maybe people should stop abusing people then

what the fuck is happening in this thread lol

I leave for an hour and chaos? time to use my Libran powers to calm things down.

so calm down gulls. plz

>>10566583
I’ve never abused someone, and that doesn’t even make sense as a response to that post. Telling a stranger to kill themselves because they are no better than a rabid animal isn’t abusive, it’s just saying what everyone else is thinking.

this is a confessions thread, not a debate which personality disorder is the worst thread.

on that note, my confession is that i actually like itas who go out and actually live their lives and enjoy the fashion in public. positive energy is contagious, and i vastly prefer them to the people who put on an elaborate, difficult to wear coord just to do a 30 minute photoshoot for social media clout

I confess that I think the angery anon in this thread probably isn't even a lolita

>>10566586
you're actually being pretty blatantly abusive in this thread anon. you should smoke a bowl or take some xans or something. when you start baiting mentally ill ppl with suicide it's time to step back.

>>10566594
You actually pretty blatantly don’t know what the word abusive actually means and just like to use it to paint yourself as the victim just like all other shitstains with BPD

>>10566594
Id smoke a bowl with you bpdchan

>>10566597
do you need a hug anon

>>10566597
>blah blah blah i’m abusive and don’t want to admit it

>>10566602
Always the victim, you’re just every BPD stereotype rolled up into one semi humanoid form.

>>10566601
I need it to be legal for the state to euthanize anyone with BPD

>>10566606
I told you to come and cull me, stop being a pussy and do it already. i’m ready for the culling i’m sick of my bpd

>>10566607
diy

>>10566599
that would be dope nonny (buhdumtss)

>>10566606
>I need it to be legal for the state to euthanize anyone with BPD
you can come euthanize me anytime daddy, uwu

>>10566608
Do you want me to kill myself or do you want to cull me? You’re sending some mixed signals here

>>10566609
:( dope is heroin bpd-chan, we don’t want to do heroin. That’s bad for you

>>10566611
I don’t want to cull you personally, I’m not sadistic. The act of killing you would bring me no joy, I just know the world would be better without you. The gov should be in charge of things like that. But sadly since that’s not our reality I think you should go ahead and kill yourself.

>>10566614
please go outside and touch some grass or something

>>10566617
You know I’m right

I want go start a YouTube channel and want to become famous in the community.
I know I can do it! What would you say should be my first subscriber goal to be a recognized lolita?

>>10566620
I assume you’re probably someone who has bpd and is doing this as a form of digital self harm. please consider seeing someone, it really sounds like you need help

>>10566622
>No u

SEETHING

>>10566621
>I want go start a YouTube channel and want to become famous
gkys faggot

alright pack it up y’all, thread is beyond saving

>>10566621
lolita is super niche, especially in the yt space. if your goal is to gain a big following, you’d be better off just wearing lolita in your videos while covering different topics (a la cathy cat)

>>10566621
You would be much better off lying low and just enjoying yourself in peace. Look at this board and the retards that populate it; e-fame is a one-way ticket to hell.

>>10566621
Tbh the best place to gain followers is tiktok. I wear lolita and I have 10k followers.

>>10566548
I have a hunch about who this is & you'll never get back in. A lot of people view you as a predator. 1 year is not enough time to come back from that.

>>10566646
spill the tea sis

>>10566639
Wow 10k?! Is the kind of content you produce a mix of normie trends mixed with lolita or is it more niche than that?

>>10566548
Fuck off A, you look like and are a piece of shit.

>>10566646
Just drop the name, fuck it

>>10566478
>>10566448
You're right. It looked much nicer in the website photos but looks awful here.
>>10566489
It's the Kaneko one. The Noblesse one is really nice in real life.

>>10566648
I mainly make sanrio and Lolita related posts. I’ve never done any dance trends. Most lolitas on there have a couple of thousand followers.

>>10566646
>>10566649
seconding >>10566647, please share

I love the attention I get when I go out wearing lolita where I live. even the negative attention bolsters my desire to wear this fashion more and more loudly. I love making people see me. I always felt so invisible before and now people stop me to tell me I'm beautiful or brave or whatever and honestly, I am thriving on the attention. always thought I hated attention, turns out I just hated my style and my self and now I that I'm cool with myself, I love the feeling of all eyes being on me when I go out.

>>10566648

I'm not that anon and I don't post regularly, but have about 30 vids and 2k followers. I had maybe 200 on ig at 30 posts, the algorithm when it treats you nicely treats you real fucking nicely.

>>10566621
Just do videos on topics you like. I follow a lot of unknown yt Lolita. They seem to cover topics they genuinely like and look happy and that makes me happy to watch them. The ones that seem really earnest in wanting to be famous are the ones that bore me, honestly.
The only way you become famous is by obnoxiously spamming yourself everywhere anyways, and those are generally the ones I avoid.

>>10566648
i have enough followers on tiktok that i cannot say how many i have without outing myself, but i have a lot on tiktok and i make a mixture of lolita, general alt fashion and cosplay content.

you can grow fast on tiktok depending on your content and what tags you use, a following on tiktok will transfer over to instagram and youtube, so i would consider making a tiktok so you can amass a following that will follow you to other platforms.

>>10566548
V is that you

I feel like I'm super underrated in the online community, since my coords are always perfect, but since I am quiet new, my reach is so bad.

>>10566821
shoe on the other foot, i wish i hadn't gained the following i did. there's literally 0 benefit from having a gaggle of lolitas paying attention to you in the online community because everyone is unhinged.

>>10566821
>since my coords are always perfect

Doubt.

Not even in a bad way but there's always something you can improve or change in an outfit. That's why fashion is fun. If you feel like all of your outfits are 'perfect' shit gets boring after a while.

>>10566694
Do you have any tips on tags and types of content?

>>10565825
Girl sticker might be my least favourite dress of all time. From the “It’s a Girl!” shit to the ugly cluttered print to the cheap taobao-looking curtain lace to the nasty plastic fabric, I’ve still not got over how ugly and cheap it looks. Fucking horrible. Truly displays all the worst of AP

>>10566837
Don’t use the lolita fashion or lolita tag, there’s a 50% chance it’ll shadowban you. if you’re talking, caption the video, people like reading it increases rewatchability. change up your tags and try to use between 4-6 a video, they don’t always have to be relevant to the video.

tiktok kids like outfits videos, get ready with me videos, lookbooks, etc

try to think of the kind of content you’d like to have seen at that age and take inspiration from that.

>>10566840
*GIRLY

sorry, phoneposting

>>10566840
>From the “It’s a Girl!” shit
Salty bitch. That’s the best part

>>10566639
But to what benefit? What does having a tiktok following do for you? Serious question. Is there monetization like YouTube or sponsored posts like Instagram? I enjoy tiktok but those videos seem like they take a lot of effort without much in return, other than as an artistic outlet

>>10566858
It benefits failed theatre kids

>>10566858
I'm not op but there is monetization but I heard it makes your reach terrible and there is definitely sponsored posts.

>>10566613
oh shit yeah no idw to do opiates. around here dope is just what boomers call weed lol. I only smoke weed and do LSD personally (and coffee is my lifeblood and caffeine is a drug so also caffeine I guess).

My confession is that I only pretend to like sweet so my comm won't hunt me down because everyone wears it except for me and one other gothic lolita. You can call me a hag who hates fun but I certainly don't hate fun as much as I hate sweet, especially anything kid or baby-themed because it give me major ageplayer vibes.

>>10566694
Hi decoden demon

>>10566821
Perfect doesn’t mean good or interesting. If you wear perfect matching sets or items it doesn’t make it good

>>10566639
@?

>>10566892
I just stopped hanging with my comm bc of this. They were boring anyway

>>10566934
I’m not going to self post on cgl. That’s just asking for trouble.

>>10566858

Serotonin from fake internet points, the entire reason why the most successful platforms have a like button.

You can sneer at it all you want but I like the hit, and it does less damage to my heart than cocaine.

>>10566544
i know you probably know it's a problem but if you don't, you should know that you have a serious problem and you should probably consider financial counseling, don't rely on a future job offer especially in these ~uncertain times~

I secrectly wish to be efamous, but I'm not super cute, not rich and my taste is not what's popular nowdays (I mostly wear classic). I know it sounds weirdly racist, but there always be a skinnier Chinese girl with more burando and shoop skills. I also feel like my craft/sewing skills are absolutely useless, because for anything I can create or think of there is a lot of cheaper shit churned up by Chinese factories.

I hope all the fat bitches that insist on wearing dresses that don't fit them have their dresses rip open at the seams in public like a sausage exploding out of it's package. I also hope that they are never able to find the same piece of again.

>>10566892
I don't understand this. I've never been in a comm where there was such division of substyles. Usually the bffs tend to have opposite or slightly different styles anyway. Many of us even wear multiple styles at different times. Is your comm a high school?

Also the popular substyle constantly changes. Just a few years ago everyone was yelling "ew ott sweet" while most of us sweet lolitas were just quietly doing our own thing.

>>10566726
nayrt, but you know someone by that name who got kicked from your comm? I'm curious.

>>10566694
Hi Tempest

>>10567015
I'd love to see it desu, that's just what you get for squeezing into garments that obviously don't fit you just because it's ~ B R A N D ~

>>10567030
I honestly feel sorry for them. Sometimes I see these girls with the waist of the dress just cutting all the way into their sides and it’s like honey that looks like it must hurt.

>>10565825
I wore lolita for years and I still like watching it and I keep track of all the releases, but I haven't been wearing it or buying for over a year. I love following the drama as I just like doing that in general (I don't create drama nor exacerbate it, just lurk and talk about it only on reasonably calm and serious treads, or places where it dies soon unless those it's about act dumb enough to keep it going. Love to do that with drama outside Lolita too).

I keep coming to /cgl because I'm so tired of every other place and community I've been part of being a hugbox wanting to be inclusive and nice all the time, caring mainly for not hurting peoples feeling and gladly denying truths to do so. Sure /cgl has its own problems like larpers and trolls, but it's the only place I've ever been part of where I can express my sincere opinion and talk about idiotic people in this world (even if it's limited to those related to lolita fashion) without worrying about a witch-hunt if I say one word wrong. I love you guys. Well, most of you. Not the larpers and trolls.

>>10565924
>miho matsuda
Miho Matsuda is underappreciated as fuck. I never cared until I saw their stuff in La Foret and I've been in love ever since. Together with AtePie my favourite brand now.

But same on the mmm. Always felt extra fancy just due to the tag.

>>10566002
Always. They've been looked at as pioneering gothic lolitas popularity. It's like the BTSSB of gothic lolita. Add to that being designed and marketed by a well known vkei musician instead of a designer who needed to make a name just on his work alone and it's easy to see how it was successful for long. It might have had its downfall after gothic lost popularity in general while computation from cheaper Chinese brands rose, but even so it still has been the most iconic brand. Other brands may have some iconic dresses, but mmm has a huge scala of them, as well as some common design elements associated with them (despites other gothic burando brands doing it to since the start), like the black with bright blue thing.

>>10567118
are you me?

>>10565939
Don't mind the Photoshop too much beside quite likely making stuff look much better on the stock photos than what you receive. But otherwise kinda agree. I love good TaoBao brands but nowadays most are fast fashion brands at fast fashion prices (or even cheaper). And many use fabrics H&M wouldn't even dare using because it's so plasticy and bad. Yet people keep screaming over them lolita is expensive, high quality and luxury. I know it's not my problem but it really irks me.

>>10567024
Yes, fairly recently a girl in my comm was banned for siding with Tyler in her recent drama. There was an argument on a zoom call and she said something insulting (fairly mild, "you're dumb if you think Tyler is a danger to the community she doesn't even go here")
It resulted in her immediate ban. Most of our community doesn't even care about Tyler OR Lor, but we were forced to embrace wokeness or we would probably all get the ban hammer. Comm politics are lunacy.
Anyway, V, if it's you, we're all pussies and won't publicly stand up for you but we don't think you're a bad person. I promise you'll be invited to MY post-covid19 party.

>>10566297
Solids usually have more details than print dresses, esp AP lately. I love their solid/ nonprint

>>10567118
I feel this. What I hate the most about it is this weird bit where we all have to agree, else be tossed into the fucking sun. I'm pretty liberal, but even on fashion stuff, we don't all have to come to the same consensus. Some people will like a coord that others will hate and that's fine. You're not entitled to 100% participation for asspats.

>>10567157
That's kinda fucked up. See above. I honestly think Tyler is super problematic and I thought that long before this whole fiasco. She literally does nothing but cause problems and shit stir for views. At the same time, I'm fully aware that there are people who like her and defend her, and that's totally fine by me. God forbid two people disagree about something and not be at each others throats on twitter 24/7

>>10567118
I hate that the lolitas on tiktok especially are acting as if /cgl is a ~toxic place~ that no one should go to ever. They know they lurk here. All lolitas lurk here whether they like to admit it or not. I wouldn't say this place is helpful for beginners but I've definitely gotten helpful blunt advice, recommendations, and dresses added to my dream list from this place. I've even managed to snag some great deals of the sell thread. CGL is autistic as hell but that's why it's so wonderfully chaotic.

>>10567157
What the fuck. That girl sounds like she did nothing wrong and I support her statement. Your mods are trash. Creeps and troons have been allowed to stay around in comms doing much worse things.

Whoever you are V, I hope to one day meet you and invite you to a based lone lolita tea.

>>10567157
God, it sucks when dumb internet drama affects real life. Like, who gives a shit?

>>10566904
>>10567027
i follow atleast 50 lolitas who sound like >>10566694 youll spend all day trying to guess give it a break

>>10567271
but there aren’t many lolitas with a lot of tiktok followers

>>10567279
10k~30k is a lot considering lolita my dude

>>10567281
>i have enough followers on tiktok that i cannot say how many i have without outing myself,

>>10566562
>>10566563
I've seen some shit during my time on the internet but this ranks high in the deeply fucked category. Jesus christ. Please don't listen to the projecting, BPDanon. Get help and take care of yourself, but please don't kill yourself.

>>10567157
Ahh ok, that's definitely not me. I didn't post that confession either. There was drama in my comm from a while back, no one was ever really kicked out, but there was definitely tension and a lot of members distanced themselves. That resulted in circumstances similar to what they were describing, with more unofficial meets. Some of the members are definitely unhinged and have spread rumours before so I was hoping it was just a weird coincidence when I saw the name you used.

If that anon who posted is this person you're talking about, getting banned over a zoom argument over some youtuber... That sucks. I would definitely try to appeal, although it seems like you still have lots of (silent) support from the comm!

Now I'm wondering what that other incident was about, people seem pissed

>>10567290
You are clearly new to this website if you think telling someone to kill their self is shocking content

>>10567157
Nice people make the best nazis.

>>10567377
I'm a nazi, nonny~!

>>10567380
Lol you're not me

>>10567364
This is like reason 9987 why comms are overrated. Imagine dealing with itas, poorly planned events, potential pervs, and obnoxious girls who are 28 going on 12, just to get banned over some stupid little shit like that.

I bought a bunch of lolita stuff from aliexpress after shitting on someone who did that on youtube. I’ve been in lolita for a while so I know what to look for and I’m sick of newfags thinking they have a good enough eye or iq to shop aliexpress.

>>10567403
you sound like a total bitch Tbh anon

Nisu

>>10567405
You’re not wrong about that, desu. I can be a huge bitch. It’s part of why I won’t make lolita youtube vids. I couldn’t become a public figure cuz I’ve said a lot of shitty things. Oh well

>>10567403
I don't think it takes a big brain iq to pick out decent lolita shoes/accessories on AE, nonny. weird flex

>>10567408
nayrt but even tho it doesn't take much intelligence, it's really astounding how often people fuck up something as easy as looking for loliable shit on cheap slave labor websites

>>10567403
imagine being so insecure that this is your flex lmao.

>>10567410
Don't people fuck up all the time buying from cheapo Chinese sourced sites anyways? Not reading the description properly, not looking for unique photos, buying items with no reviews, buying items with fake reviews, the list of what can go wrong goes on and on.

Seems like lolitas with less money who look to these sites tend to be younger too, so it would make sense for them to have ita taste or be inexperienced about these things. This is the confession thread though so if it makes you feel good to "flex", then you do you.

>>10567413
*Whoops, second paragraph was directed at >>10567403, not the anon I replied to

>>10567407
The teenage angst is real. Try to go for maximum edge next time anon.

>>10567238
I don't have ticktock. Maybe it's me, but nothing I've seen so far made me want a ticktock. Ads, things shared from there, my sister who's a huge fan. It often just seems dumb. Feel like I'm too old to get it, but I'm in my early twenties.

Anyways, FB seems very full off /cgl being ~toxic place~ people too nowadays. And places like CoF have degraded so much the last few years. Not just the people posting, but also what people who tell everyone everything looks great and how easily you get a witch-hunt for giving polite concrit.

Indeed /cgl can be blunt and just plain mean at times, but often enough they actually say helpful stuff or are open to actual conversation instead of just free asspats for everyone.

>>10567020
NAYRT but sweet lolita really does feel like a different world sometimes. My comm is run by taobaolitas who think classic is basically sweet lolita in jewel tones.

My confession is I think (print-based) sweet lolita is "girly" while other lolita styles (classic/gothic/etc) read as more "feminine" and your substyle preference usually shows in your personality

>>10567427
I’m trying to be less bothered by other people doing lolita “wrong” but it’s hard for me for some stupid reason

>>10567524
im a tradgoth outside lolita (like i heavily listen to the music and participate in the subculture) but i dont wear gothic lolita, i wear pure AP sweet. What does that say about me?

>>10567526
That you like frilly shit.

It's a sweeping generalization, and probably has more to do with the popularity of sweet than anything. It just gets frustrating trying to connect.

I confess, I am kind of relieved my feet are way too big for brand shoes. I wouldn't want to spend lots of money on shoes when I personally wear through all my shoes quickly. This is a nice excuse and ,by Jove, I'll take it. I suppose I pay for it by struggling to find shoes to wear at all. Size 10/43 is hell.

>>10567530
Doesnt angelic pretty sell big ass shoes?

>>10565825
.gg/freezer

I wish the YouTubers and tiktokers would stop recommending Taobao and lacemarket to newbs.
Tell them bodyline, Amazon, or aliexpress even.
~Especially~ stop recommending lacemarket. I don't want them to swipe up any good deals. Let the newbs be ita until they learn on their own to be otherwise.

>>10567555
That's a great way for them to loose followers because everyone felt lied to, or get told they've been lied to on places where more experienced lolitas gather. Which they would be. None of those places are any good. Bodyline is accepted but honestly it's trash for the price and not worth it anymore. Even their best polycotton blend feels like plastic, and their lace is either shiny and rough or it's that cotton lace where you can't recognise any of the pattern.

>>10567403
wow that's massively retarded, if you've worn lolita for a while why not just buy it cheaper from the original taobao shops?

>>10567532
their biggest is a US 9, iirc

>>10567557
I don't care if they're good or not, I just want newbs steered away from LM.
Everyone should have to go through a painful ita phase.

That's a good point though about them losing followers, yeah they would...

>>10567558
I like brand lol, I mostly use aliexpress for accessories and whatnot. But yeah it’s stupid of me to be so judgemental

>>10567555
>>10567564
>everyone should have to go through a painful ita phase
damn someone sure still feels bitter about their own ita phase and thinks they've somehow earned the right to purchase things over newbs

>>10567555
>>10567564

lmao they're gonna thru their ita phase with the help of lacemarket. We just had some guy being posted for selling his "designer lolita", not like folks don't try selling "kawaii" walmart shit all the time. Plus you know newbies probably won't do their homework properly, some of them are gonna end up overpaying for that Marie dress and still end up with a replica. Not to mention all the oddball uncommunicative sellers, scalpers or plain weirdoes on there.

To be honest with you, I wouldn't point a newbie at lacemarket because it kind of needs its own guide and even with the best guidance the newbies can be surprisingly dense. Once saw a redditor point a newbie at lacemarket along with a chunk of text advice and two weeks later she posted that she bought a taobao dress off lacemarket, from an account that's obviously a taobao reseller.

>>10567588
I’m a newbie who went to LM and had zero trouble and have only 5 star ratings buying and selling, after a few months.

The issue is most people are idiots and don’t know how to read directions or use the search function to compare pricing...the issue is not that they’re new, exactly. I mean literally all someone have to do is read the faq, look at lolibrary and use some critical thinking. And then it’s not hard to use LM.

Yeah there are the weird people who try to relist 6% dokidoki hair clips and bad ‘handmade’ things. But its on the person being dumb if they buy that stuff. I’m still a noob with coords. but at least I can look at my closet and know it’s all decent stuff i can resell for the same price i got it for, if I need to.

>>10566694
Tfw I work in a company with federal contracts and we cant have tiktok because of all ots security issuss.

>>10567555
I feel like I would agree with this more if it was geared towards newbie poorfags and noobs with a budget. I don't really care if rich kids go on giant bodyline/ali/taobao hauls or whatever, they'll (hopefully) grow out of their ita phase and realize they could go for better items. Poorfag/budget propaganda is just "never ever ever ever ever even dream of owning brand, don't even try saving up for one" and it's just so disappointing. I wish we could still give good advice to people more often and in more places but more and more people are crying about muh gatekeeping or whatever

>>10567645

Don't you have devices that you use only for federal contracts? I work for the government so ofc I can't browse tiktok on the government computer and can't post about work on tiktok, but I can post from my personal device about stuff not related to work.

>>10567654
The issue anon is probably speaking of is that Tiktok is proven to be an app used by the Chinese government to gather people's personal information. It can be a conflict of interest for federal employees to subject themselves to that specifically known risk.

>>10567579
Yup. I am. Idgaf. Them babylitas can suffer just like everyone else.
Buuut this is mostly to the newbs on Tiktok who likely will get bored and move on to some other niche style in less than a year anyways.

>>10567588
Honestly no I change my mind. I'd much rather they not be recommended the second hand shops instead. They have to earn that, and I'd rather it remain a little secret for more experienced lolitas.

>>10567675

Honestly it probably won't be that painful for them and when they move on to whatever white girl boring fashion they'll look back on it and say "oh what a silly costumey fashion phase!" When it was that they were wearing cheap ita shit and never really got what lolita was all about.

Yeah I'm salty about how some youtubers treated their """""lolita""""" phase (none that are regularly mentioned here)

>>10567670
I have a friend who works for the government and he’s in a group chat where other people share tiktoks so maybe it depends on what sector you’re working in?

>>10567670

They issued a warning to us not to talk about our workplace and to "be careful" but ultimately did not issue an order to delete tiktok on our personal devices.

>>10567569
use taobao to get the accessories cheaper retard

I don't like military lolita. The people I see who are into it come off as trying too hard to be different or edgy or both. I personally don't get why anyone would look at a military uniform and go omg so kawaii I need that with a poofy skirt.

>>10567634

I can't even be snarky at you, anon. A newbie who does all that homework deserves an ita-free experience. Congrats on not not failing.

>>10567677

Yup, this I agree with. We have enough people fighting over CC updates as it is, we don't need the clueless ones asking when it updates so they can join in too.

>>10567675
>>10567677
idk, considering most tik tok teens would probably veer sweet i doubt they could afford it these days. sites like cc and ww have begun pricing according to the demand. i mean, if they can coof up $500 for dreamy baby room, more power to them lol

>>10567677
Same. Fuck newbies, more brand for experienced Lolita. Absolute gatekeeping, and I don't even care.

Sometimes I wonder how much brand is out there randomly in some newbies wardrobe that they bought off of LM, just rotting from their stint with Lolita. Even worse the thought of it getting donated to Goodwill. It's sad. I know it's not mine, but it makes me sad that it won't get resold into the market.

>>10568111

Look I have clothes I need to get rid of that I haven't sold in literal years. Yes, I also have nightmares of a lolita skirt I donated getting turned into an ironing board but if y'all don't want it I'm going to donate it. You (collective you, I have no idea what individual you likes) don't even like skirts anyways.

>>10568111
I definitely lost lolita before and I know for a fact it got donated. Not a good feel

>>10568101
yeah it's always a weird look imho. No matter how you slice it, it almost always has a weird nazi vibe that just doesn't feel comfy to wear out and about.

>>10568111
i have an irl childhood friend who got into lolita when i did, but we lost touch several years ago. she had several brand dresses that ive never seen her resell and i want them so badly. i feel like a horrible person wishing i could ask her if she still has them...

>>10568117
Why do Chinese lolitas love it so much? Legit question. The only westerners I see wearing military are super autistic

>>10568130
I'm not sure, but given that Nazi-themed weddings were a whole Chinese fad I'm assuming there's some real disconnect with the implications of it.

>>10568130
https://www.cnn.com/2016/12/27/asia/taiwan-nazi-school-asia/index.html

Some info on this weirdness

>>10568117
They don’t all look like facist uniforms. I like AP’s take on military lolita, it looks more like parade dress uniforms. Lots of rows of shiny buttons, epaulets, tassels, etc

>>10568140
Yes there’s a total disconnect. It’s really weird. has to do with the chinese gov brainwashing everyone to just accept and not question things.
If it looks cool then they like it, and never think about anything deeper. As long as it catches and dazzles your attention at first, they want it. Thinking about if it actually looks good, doesn’t happen. You can watch chinese shows and realize this happening with costumes and clothing.
Only if you point it out to them, they will actually stop and think and likely agree with you that its weird or messed up.
>source is family and friends in china

>>10568147
>>10568130

People used to legitimately love it here too before everyone became all woke. Times were edgier back then and it wasn't a sin to like something aesthetically even if you disagreed with the source inspiration. I don't even like military lolita, but this is kind of a woke take.

>>10568152
Actually I don't think it's the "wokeness" that killed it. For me, it's the emergence of actual Nazi's and far right people taking to the streets with a similar aesthetic. Under no circumstances would I ever want annyone to think I might be affiliated with those cousin-fuckers.

>>10568156
Hard agree. I don't really care about woke lolitas trying to educate me about why I shouldn't wear xy and z. But now that the aesthetic is unironically being used to commit acts of domestic terrorism, it feels like a much milder version of wearing orange in Ireland.

>>10568117
>it almost always has a weird nazi vibe
It's also because anything that takes inspiration from almost any European (and many East-Asian) military uniform of that time period get's told it looks like a nazi one. It's just most people don't know what other uniforms looked like because no one remembers what the British, Russians, French, Chinese, etc wore because no one is offended by it the same way. Not saying they're not inspired by nazis, some clearly are. Others are more general and could be (and some are confirmed to be) inspired by old military outfits in general.

Those uniforms where stylish to many and are an inspiration to normie fashion often enough too. Not a big issue. But when it's in lolita it's all nazi unless it looks like fanfare uniforms.

>>10568156
>For me, it's the emergence of actual Nazi's and far right people taking to the streets with a similar aesthetic.
Then please remember, than not every country is having huge issues with a big rise in neo-nazis. If that's the reason you want to stay away from it, I would like to think you can understand people in some other countries still not minding it because they don't face the same issue you country does. You can expect the whole world to addapt to your countries issue.

Pirate lolita is way more fun than military lolita

>>10565924
are u me?

>>10566583
Being abused isn't a free pass to abuse others, fucking nutjob. Very BPD from you, could you someday own your actions for once? You're 18+ if you're posting at the chins ffs.

>>10568111

Wow. You all sound like Republicans.

>>10568274
yes.

>>10568270
>You can expect the whole world to addapt to your countries issue
I literally said "for me" anon. Defensive much?

>>10568147
Japan is sort of like that too desu. With Blackface for example. If you point it out as something that's inappropriate they seem to understand immediately. However, since they emphasizes bystander culture and saving face it's rare for anyone to be confronted if something they are doing is inappropriate.

>>10568423
I read the for me as "for me this is why it's an issue", not as "I only have these standards for me but it's fine if others wear it". Sorry if I read that wrong, sadly I've seen more people judge the whole world only from their own perspective than I've seen people remember that others' might have different context. Considering how every time someone posts a military coord is bound to get people who complain it's nazi, I just hope that since your reasoning is based on your own surrounding, you won't get mad at those people because it reminds you of the neo-nazis around you, as they might possibly not be in the same situation.

Not meant defensive, I don't even have military style dresses so it's not my problem. More a reminder of something people online often seem to forget, if not for you that for other who read.

I really dislike overskirts and the OP/JSK trend

>>10568566
Don't people get hot wearing two dresses like that?

>>10568611
i think it was just a social media challenge and not a real trend, like for example blindfolded/randomized coord challenge

>>10568566
Classic lolitas have been doing it forever and it generally looks fine because they do it tastefully, but I hate the trend too. That otome nostalgia x honey cake monstrosity made me die a little inside.

>>10568637
I think having an open buttoned OP and having a JSK under it could be fine (so the OP is more like a coat) but the trend just seems like a flex. Like "tee hee have a peak at the rare dress I'm wearing underneath this brand dress"

>>10568640
> an open buttoned OP and having a JSK under it could be fine (so the OP is more like a coat)
That is how most classic lolitas do it. I know VM makes both underdresses and overdresses with openings for this very style of layering. There's also those who wear the OP under the JSK in place of a blouse.

Some people interpreted the trend that way but it isn't really new to do either of those things outside of sweet. Like you said the only new trend is the style of pinning the overdress up to reveal whatever print you want to flex.

>>10568111
Thank you! It's refreshing to know someone else shares my salty opinion. 100% agree.

>>10568111
This.
If you can't figure out where to find AP Japan's newest release details, I'm not gonna tell you what time CC updates.
I'm a lonelita and there's 0 advantage to me sharing knowledge with newbies.

I'm >>10565926, I feel lame admitting this but I actually want those Moitie candles that popped up on CC, just for the novelty. They can't ship flammable goods overseas though right?

>>10566002
I inferred it from how quickly their pieces get snapped up on CC and how little stock they have there overall

>>10567131
Yes, the fact that the brand is headed by a mysterious, cross dressing visual kei star is a huge draw for me lmao. Even if it is dumb hype I absolutely love the idea of it and the exclusivity, like how there can be tea cup bloodbaths.

>>10568775
>They can't ship flammable goods overseas though right?
Yeah candles are a no go.

>>10568118
>i feel like a horrible person wishing i could ask her if she still has them...
do

Just talk to her, say it's because of COVID you want to reconnect with people. Then start asking if she's still into Lolita, if not see if you can buy those dresses off of her anon.

>>10568324
>You all sound like Republicans.
You realize not every lolita is a monolith of woke leftist democrats right? There are some Republican lolitas. It's shocking I know, people have different onions.

>>10568803
I was talking about the absolute selfishness and shunning of others that need help.

>>10568813
NTA, but nobody "needs" or is entitled to help from the lolita community. It's a luxury hobby. Other anon's opinion is weird, but she's not asking that people be denied food or shelter

>>10568816
Why be nice, right?

>>10568976
Because nice gets you more competitors for cheap dresses.

>>10568989
I guess everybody has to be exceedingly greedy about something...

>>10568997

It's not even greed. I have limited energy and zoomers are exceedingly rude about how much I spend on lolita, so fuck em.

>>10568976
You don’t have to be nice to everyone. Sorry kindergarten lied to you

>>10568997
>you must handhold all newbies and shoot yourself in the foot so itas can buy the shit you yourself want or else you're greedy! lolitas are supposed to be lovelies!!!

i saw firsthand what happened to japanese secondhand sites as more and more people here on /cgl/ spoonfed everyone else how to use them. not doing that again. i hope people keep posting about how they got scammed on the new site to dissuade people from using it so I can keep buying brand for cheap.

>>10569073
Then don't expect anything nice back at you.

>>10569078
but anon, lolita is a socialist community.

>>10569081
I don't think anyone on this board expects anything nice back.

>>10569078
There's nothing lovely with what I've seen here. Jesus. You take mean to a new level, and hide it behind pastels and lace and the word "community". Real communities all work for the betterment of each other, even new members. Not throw them under the bus so they lose their money and any dignity they might have after they dress in a way you don't 100% approve of and bully them. It's like Qtarted Trump supporters in dresses. I'm surprised I haven't seen Marjorie Taylor Greene level of posts here screaming about 2 genders and dead fetuses.

>>10569086
It’s a community where 90% of the members don’t do anything but buy things. Go to a more productive community if you want welcoming.

>>10569086
>Real communities
how new are you? all fashion based communities are like this. you expect people to have this unconditional, self-sacrificial love for eachother just because they all like frilly dresses. grow the fuck up.

>>10569086
try being gyaru, kek.

>>10569086
quit trying to turn a niche fashion revolving around blatant hedonistic tendency into your humanities thesis you fuckin goober

>>10569089
If by "grow up" you mean act like the most selfish, self serving son of a bitch on the planet, no thanks.

>>10569093
>selfish, self serving son of a bitch on the planet
>for not teaching a newbie how to user mercari
are you ok

>>10569093
you sound extremely entitled, yet are calling others selfish. keep going.

Man reading through this thread gives me hope that the therapist who "diagnosed" me with bipolar in the first session was wrong cause I can't relate to a single symptom yall are talking about here. And while I do have my impulsive moments sometimes, there were never episodes where I overspend.

>>10569099
but anon, you wording it like a vindictive cunt could be a sign you do actually have bipolar.

>>10569103
nta but I don’t see how their post gives off vindictive cunt vibes

>>10569081
What am I getting from newbies who can’t use google? I don’t need them to be nice to me

>>10569086
I'm with you anon. But you can't tell gulls that, look at the results.

>>10569105
pretty sure "so I get something in return" isn't why people are nice, anon.

>>10569086
>There's nothing lovely with what I've seen here
you know "lolitas are supposed to be lovelies" is the joke right.
you know how many times i HAVE in the past, tried to help newbies find good dresses and good deals? and they go "this is too hard im buying milanoo"? Why should i give my time/labor/energy to nameless faceless people who can't do what I did and put in the effort to research and figure out how to buy something? it's not exactly rocket science. especially now when you can literally google "how to buy from x" and find tons of guides. there's nothing "mean" about it, you're just lazy and want someone else to do the work for you. and im sick of doing the work where the market gets worse for everyone because of it.

>>10569147
tell that to >>10569081
there's nothing lost to ignoring annoying retards anyway.

>>10569103
You're weird but ok

>>10569081

Strangers aren't nice to you, more news at 10

>>10569103
>t. triggered projecting bipolar-chan

>>10569086
>There's nothing lovely with what I've seen here.
I thought it was pretty well understood that CGL is a specific sub-space of lolita fashion and doesn't actually represent the community at large. In general, online spaces are ALWAYS more extreme than the irl spaces they represent, and with few exceptions (ie: wondercunt) very few lolitas behave in such a way publicly.

I was browsing Amazon for cheap socks to wear around the house, and I found some fluffy OTKs and cute pastel colors. I got as far as adding them to my cart before I realised they were from LittleForBig, and for a moment I considered still buying them but I didn't because it made me feel dirty

>>10569209
i know which ones you are talking about, and they are really cute, and even though they're from that site i might still get them. people already think we're freaks from the knee up so does it super matter if my socks are basically from a sex shop, eh

>>10569209
Those OTKs are just private label taobao. You can find them cheaper on eBay

I hope anyone thats into DDLG and wears lolita kills themselves
imagine wanting to shit yourself while wearing a $300 dress acting like a goo goo gaa gaa daddy fuck me fetus

>>10569218
you're right, here's an ebay dupe
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Winter-Thigh-High-Socks-Coral-Velvet-Knee-Socks-Thick-Stockings-Striped-H7N9/265018549745?hash=item3db45625f1:g:43cAAOSwoQZf3W7u

>>10569223
Everything that's not a well known brand on Amazon is a taobao private label. Even top brands like Calvin Klein have been busted for private labeling Alibaba/taobao goods.

>>10569223
also if you live near a daiso you can also get similar ones there. I always get pastel fluffy socks for my giftee if I get paired with a sweet for cgl secret santa

>>10569296
>tfw don't live by daiso
why live

>>10569313
join secret santa and I'll give you SOOOO many as fillers >:) <3

>>10569221
that's abdl, not ddlg. just sayin

>>10569321
Either way you’re a pedophile and should kys

>>10569321
ignore the puritan sperge bait anon

>>10569317
might be fun if it ends in socks! unironically love when my family gifts me fuzzy socks for Christmas

>>10569164
This. I literally held someone's hand to teach them how to order from Japanese secondhand sites and they still buy cheap ugly aliexpress shit. If someone can't learn what they need to mostly by themselves they probably aren't as interested as they think they are.

>>10569209
I highly recommend those nonny they're really comfy. you can find them cheaper elsewhere.

>>10569321
Thats literally the same shit ugly

>>10568115
If the skirts are cute, list them. If not, then they can become ironing boards.

>I'm into old school mostly, gothic and black/white colors. I like old BTSSB, MMM, Victorian Maiden and Sheglit, but I only own AP atm haha

Not to talk shit about said person but I saw this posted and it's the perfect description of the type of newcomers I dislike.

>>10570225
Do you hate it up to the AP statement or before?

>>10570225
Spending your money on a brand that's not your style just so you have brand to wear instead of being patient + saving up for your dream wardrobe, how weak

>>10569086
>There's nothing lovely with what I've seen here.
Are you really coming to /cgl complaining we aren't lovely? You know that never ends well right? Go back to animo if you need lovelies only. Then you can sit between the itas who can't dress because everyone is too lovely to tell them they look like shit. I'm sure they gladly complaint with you about how evil /cgl is.

>>10570235
Sheesh anon you're so cringe

>>10570236
People coming to /cgl complaining people aren't lovelies are cringe.

Every once in a while someone comes complain on /cgl how mean /cgl is and how we all should be nice. It's dumb and tiring. Beside, it's true. The more people just give asspats, the more itas emerge. Look how much CoF has gone to shit the last few years. Normally itas either learn or quit after a while. But since they get asspats for looking horribly they stay and don't try harder. We don't need those special snowflakes.

>>10566505
if i have to deal with one more batshit crazy suicide baiting bpd bitch i'm going to start the cull without you ready or not

>>10566525
>BPD abuse only stems from other abuse
go fuck yourself kindly

>>10570242
Nah it's your wording and way of typing that makes you come off like a cringey tryhard mean girl, newfriend :^)

>>10566519
But they do tend to do well in the sense that for example if they have high positions at work. Exactly because they aren't having a difficulty firing those who don't bring any good without a care. It really depends on the exact situation, but narcissists can at least be very useful in the right situation. BPD people less so.

Not saying culling anyone up is a great idea, just saying that according to >>10566505
logic narcist are at least better for being able to give value to society (be it if they're in the right position).

>>10566980
>Chinese girl with more shoop skills.
Just try some apps like snow and meitu. Their skills aren't the crazy part, their apps are. If you edit with Chinese software on pc it get's even better.

>>10567238
>They know they lurk here. All lolitas lurk here whether they like to admit it or not.
I know a few who don't. They tried. But they are mentally weak and feel too shitty so stay silently away. I can respect that if they do it in a live and let live way.

Better than them coming here, feeling bad, then either complain about how evil we are on other platforms or even worse, come here to cry how mean we are or to defend themselves.

>>10570350
>cringey tryhard mean girl, newfriend :^)

Not that anon but kek

>>10567364
>Now I'm wondering what that other incident was about, people seem pissed
Me too. Really no one gonna spill the tea? Multiple have asked already.

>>10570474
That's just even more reason to cull narcs anon

>>10570350
>your wording and way of typing that makes you come off like a cringey tryhard mean girl, newfriend :^)
>cringey tryhard mean girl, newfriend :^)
I don't think you should say much more. Projecting yourself much?

>>10570486
kek keep seething newfag

>>10570486
It's obviously bait you idiot. Summer has come early this year.

>>10570482
I honestly kind of hate much of the autism that goes on here. I'm able to get along well with both sides of the spectrum. Some ita's are super nice and I don't dislike them as people. Some folks on cgl have been fairly nice too, all the autism aside. Some of the threads here aren't completely full of autism either, which is why I still often like to lurk here. I just feel kind of bad for some of the ita's who get posted here (not for the DDLG freaks yikes they can gtfo). I also don't want to spend too long at a time here because I've started to notice I'm getting a toxic view of my body. I've been losing weight for a year, far before I lurked cgl, and I'm close to my goal now. I just don't want to finally get to 110 pounds with a 60cm waist and think I'm still fat.

Idk. I think it is a bit of a toxic place at times. But you have to take everything with a grain of salt as well and not be too much of a pussy. Just get on with your life and make good coords lmao.