/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

What a cunt. Imagine being that fucking entitled.

Who is this bitch so i can avoid her? What's the listing?

>>10566666
The listing is gone but here's the unedited ver >>10565958

>>10566668
Thanks anon.

>>10566668
I love that she's trying to shill that Disney x AP hat for above retail lmao

>>10566363
I don't think its worth that much since it's getting rereleased, although the rerelease will be cotton intead of velveteen and they haven't yet specified which colors other than sax will be available. Its probably worth about the same as milky chan appliqué maybe 800 us without the bonnet. Imo.

>>10566674
I agree. I think it will hold value, but probably like 1k at most. This girl is crazy.

The listing said it was badly stained and that’s why it was cheap, but it still hurts to not be the one to get this.

>>10566557
scrote is shitting up Kei market too

>>10566691
They shouldn’t even allow scrotes to make accounts. Aren’t they requiring you to show an ID now? Why not just put that as a new rule too.

>>10566693
>scrote
report his ass, get him banned

>>10566674
>the rerelease will be cotton intead of velveteen
By Allah, I have seen cases of cancer, caused directly by fabric changes

>>10566696
Has AP actually stated it won’t be velveteen? Or is it retards who know nothing about fashion see them saying it’ll be cotton and jumping to conclusions?

>>10566702
Nayrt but people were speculating that it was cotton based on the way the dress was falling in the fashion show photos as well as the texture. Can't remember if there was actually written confirmation on material, though

>>10566690
i didn't know it was stained, ty for making me feel slightly better anon
we'll get her someday

>>10566691
$250 LMAO for that piece of shit?

>>10566706
Wasn't it confirmed cotton at the tea party due to velveteen sourcing issues?

>>10566706
Tea party attendees confirmed it will be plain cotton, it was announced at the event.

>>10566690
I saw that today and had a triple-take. Figured it must be some kind of replica. When I saw the listing it didn't even have a proof pic, just the stock picture.

>>10566709
i think only the kc was stained

Is it bad etiquette to ask a seller to sell me their dress at a significantly lower price because they are probably pricing too high?

>want a dress that isn't hotly desired
>it was sold before for ~200, I was outbid by a dollar because I went to bed, only had 2 bids on it
>another seller has it up for over $300 and keeps getting relisted because nobody wants it but the seller won't lessen the price

I want to message them and say I'll buy it for $200 but I don't know if that seems rude. what do gulls

>>10566724
If the don’t have the “make me an offer!” Button on their listing, yes.

>>10566724
I’d laugh at you and then ignore you, personally.

>>10566724

It never hurts to try, but unless they've been relisting forever, they'll probably laugh at you then bitch about it in the feels thread. But you'll never know if you don't ask.

>>10566664
Gnomie always bitches in RuffleChat and EGL wall of shame about prices out of her poorfag range. She's a bitter cunt.

>>10566724
Anon, you were cheap for not bidding higher than $200. Theoretically the auction would have ended higher if you didn't fall asleep. And you also don't know the maximum bid of the winner.
And yeah, I'd just ignore you. $100 discount is laughable

>>10566750
You actually can know the maximum bid of the winner

>>10566752
I stand corrected then. Either way, the auction would have ended higher if that anon got involved.

Also, when someone makes the argument of 'hey another listing sold for way cheaper, now gimme the same price!' I just think, well why didn't you buy that other listing then.

> create auction for blouse
> 3 people bid
> day before auction ends, bidder says they don't have a PayPal account, also wants to know international shipping cost (very expensive)
> they win the auction
> winner backs out because they can't figure out PayPal and shipping is too expensive
> message 2nd bidder
> they see message, don't reply
> message 3rd bidder
> they don't want to pay their final bid price because other bidders backed out

I'd what to even do now. Do I redo the entire auction and hope that the winner actually follows through this time? I don't want to list it as BIN because I still have no idea what people are willing to pay.

>>10566691
he seems to have mistaken LM with grailed or something

>>10566742
>EGL wall of shame
That whoe group sounds super cringe, somebody post screenshots.

>>10566786
Relist it or settle for a lower price with the third bidder. Leave negative feedback for newb-chan, and reiterate in the post that people should not bid if they don't think they can follow through.

>>10566724
No it's fine, just offer it very politely. I don't know when cgl changed to be this fucking asspained about price reductions and started to wk overpricing this much.

>>10566724
No it's fine, just offer it very politely. I don't know when cgl changed to be this fucking asspained about price reductions and started to wk overpricing this much. Normal people usually just counter-offer when it's too low for them.

>>10566796
agreed, idk i've noticed that the general attitude here has become anti-offer during this cursed sweet boom. on top of that it's just gulls pretending they're above asking for a reasonable price, because everyone is larping as a rich ojou-sama

>>10566803
Your definition of a “reasonable price” is probably what shit went for in 2018. Times have changed. Cry more about what you can’t afford.

>>10566808
lol case in point.

>offers are okay
>you must be POOR

>>10566674
Velveteen is cotton

>>10566810
There’s no other reason for you to be this upset over people not wanting to accept offers and the market changing unless you’re poor

>>10566813
when did i say i was upset though? adjust your reading glasses

>>10566814
Are you being intentionally obtuse or are you really this dense?

>>10566815
yes

>>10566817
Lol did you really care enough about that comment to go take this washed out photo of proof that you own like 5 dresses? Get a life

>>10566820
seethe

>>10566817
Congrats on your tiny collection

>>10566786
>they don't want to pay their final bid price because other bidders backed out
I think this is fair for the 3rd bidder to feel. If you took out bidder #1 and #2, there's no telling how high or low the auction would have been. Thier bid was based on besting another person's offer.
I'd just do the auction again and let the 3rd bidder know they are welcome to bid again.

>>10566817
Shut up BPD-anon

>>10566796
I don't wk overpricing, but I am pretty sure the original anon will get ignored when asking for a $100 discount. I wouldn't bother entertaining with a counter offer

>>10566796

on the flipside, know that it will likely be refused.

A lot of people can't bear to hear the answer "no" (including me) but it comes with life. But otherwise, anon wouldn't know the answer if she didn't ask and will always wonder about it. She should just be ready for a rejection but should be pleasantly surprised should the seller accept.

>>10566824
That absolutely makes sense. I've never had something like this happen before, so I had no idea what to do. The 3rd bidder's response to my message was unexpectedly rude as well, so it just caught me off guard and kind of rubbed salt in the wound. I don't particularly want to message her again.

>>10566824
>>10566786
As I submitted >>10566870, I got another message from the 3rd bidder making an offer that's about about 25% off the final price of the auction. Part of me wants to accept out of convenience but at this point I kind of don't want to deal with this user again though since her initial response was rude as hell.

>>10566826
that's not me nonny. my toy parade is not pink and I don't own milky chan.

>>10566724
If someone's listing keeps going unsold at that price, I don't think it's wrong to ask for less. But I would meet somewhere in the middle at $250, because asking for $100 off is steep. The worst someone can say is no.

>>10566817
Good taste.

I've been buying and selling for years but these last 2 months have been unlike anything I've encountered. I already price my stuff competitively. Almost every listing gets people asking for discounts and free shipping within an hour of posting (so it's not like stuff has been sitting a while). Most recently, someone asked me that on a $30 item.
I wish it was against LM rules to ask if the "make offer" option is turned off.

>>10566724
Don’t ask for $100 off, 225-250 is better.

>>10566929
wow that sucks, I've been pretty lucky where 've been able to sell everything without an issue. I had maybe one seller lowball me and when I said no, they still bought it.

>>10566828
>>10566878
>>10566938
Agree. Imho any offer for 30% or more off is insultingly low, and just reads to me as a poorfag who’s going to be a pain in my ass to sell to.

I accepted an offer for about 38% off of a dress that had been sitting around and I just wanted to let it go. The girl said it was her dream dress and all, so I agreed. Upon arrival she goes through it with a microscope and complains about holes in the fabric from the detached bow, a loose thread on the strap, and a tiny stain from a pen or something that was in the INSIDE of the lining that I had missed. It was perfect otherwise. She asked for an additional 20% off, so I called her bluff and said no, you can return it for a full refund. She then got bitchy about it and said she didn’t want to lose the dress and ultimately decided to keep it. So not worth the hassle. I’d rather sit on my items indefinitely then risk selling to some cheap ass always looking to bargain.

>>10566953
I had a girl literally ask me for 50% off because she found a small snag in the fabric.

>>10566786
Who the fuck can't work out how to use PayPal?

>>10567158
you'd be surprised. With the crazy influx of newfags I've had a couple in the last 4 months or so ask me how to set up an account. To be fair, one was clearly a parent.

>>10566663
I feel like people say there are missing items to hide the fact that they're keeping accessories lol

>>10567272
i definitely do that

>>10567272
I do that, but I also know that it’s pretty common to find things second hand that don’t include applique pins. I also say that if I lose something. Tbh I’ve got about 80 dresses and loads of accessories and blouses so I pretty regularly forget where I put things then find it later and repurpose it.

>>10567272
How are there already two owners that haven’t worn it and it’s only been out a couple weeks? This just screams people who buy things for clout, take some pictures for social media, and then try to sell it as unworn. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve definitely bought things and never ended up wearing them, but I only sell them after it’s been like a year and I realize I haven’t worn them. Who buys some thing and then sells it a week later “unworn“
Bullshit

>>10567272
There's a special place in hell for people who intentionally split sets.

>>10567283
I have the same size wardrobe and I never lose track of things. I have secondhand anxiety from reading your post. No one likes a seller that lists a dress without the waist ties and then finds them a month later and makes a new listing to sell them separately.

>>10567274
>>10567283
Honestly, I never thought much of "missing items" until my friend clued me in that she took the waist ties off all her dresses to make into headbows to save money.
>>10567288
They probably bought it to take photos or to scalp... people who scalp new releases with a fear of lace dramu often do not have the balls to just put "NWT" in the desc and they make up some BS reason to resell like the seller above saying it didn't fit or it wasn't her style despite the fact that she bought multiple cuts and colors and listed them new in the plastic.
>>10567289
I also can't understand losing accessories or detachables. I have a very systematic way of storing things, a box for waist ties, a box for headwear, a box for detachables, etc. Everything in my wardrobe has a home so I'd be very anxious about the condition of my items if they were just shoved and tossed in random places after undressing.

>>10567293
>took the waist ties off all her dresses to make into headbows to save money.
WHY. This makes me cry. Headbows are only like ~$50.

>>10567283
It's AP. Just put it in the fucking pocket??

>>10567288
the first owner probably only bought it to keep the applique and then sold the dress to this unsuspecting person

only closet child manages to make baby look like frumpy milanoo

this seems like a weird lot of items to sell together

>>10567333
Nah, Baby did that all on their own

>>10567334
I’d buy that apron in a heartbeat if it was for sale on its own

>>10567333
All princess dresses look like this unironed desu

What’s the most you’ve ever paid for a headbow secondhand? I paid $150 for a rare one once. That black puppet circus one just sold for $100 on lace market. What’s you limit and how rare would it have to be for you to spend that much? Is there just one in particular you’d splash out on, and if so, which one?

>>10567293
>>10567300

>took the waist ties off all her dresses to make into headbows to save money.

...y...you don't need to permanently cut them up, though? You just tie them into a nice bow and then pin (with regular hair pins) to your hair.

Then when you want to sell it, just untie it?

>>10567373
That would look like shit

>>10567373
Anon are you a lolita? Serious question. Waist ties are way too large/long to "just tie a bow" and put it on your head.

>>10567334
No one cares. This is normal on JP second hand sites.

>>10567338
....you don't iron this material wtf anon

>>10567373
Who has ever done this? Topkek

>>10567369
I haven't really shelled out for headbows before, but I'm starting to see some priced more around $100 recently and I feel weird owning a lot of the popular ones.
I think the only headbows I'd throw money at are the original Milky Planet with the applique and Vanilla-Chan. They always escape me and seem really rare in my preferred colorways.

>>10567392
it's usually a more intuitive assortment imo

>>10567288
Maybe it fits small or something lol, i know fit issues are why i resell things nwt immediately most of the time

>>10567369
I have the pink version of this and had no idea anyone would even want it. I thought every one wanted the first release version.

>>10567396
The description says they're moving so they probably just want to get rid of all it of once, any idea if they're offering a good deal at least? Lol

>>10567402
58k yen for those 6 items seems kinda like regular market value price, not really a deal imo. The bunny purse I can see being 20k, 12k for the apron, 6-8k for the headband, 12k for the little witch stuff and not much more than like 6k for the pompom.

>>10567369
what confuses me is that this seller sold their sax jsk first for 350 then this. I feel like they could've gotten more if they didn't split the set.

>>10567414
Definitely not. Accessories are in high demand these days

I'm sure this person has been discussed before but aren't they just listing Bodyline items for slightly more than they're sold for? Literally who would bid on these? Is there something about this that I'm missing?

>>10567433
>she doesn't know about cherry
Kinda pissed she's shitted up lacemarket for however many years instead of ripping off depop teens when that seems to be the easier money

>>10567436
I mean I've seen her before but I mostly go through brand tags and so her shit never pops up for me. I figured she would eventually run out of Bodyline but sometimes when I venture out of the brand tags she's somehow still there, posting more overpriced Bodyline. How can one person have so much Bodyline??

>>10567439
She's basically just a bodyline reseller. I'm not sure how much money this makes her but it doesn't seem worth it for the effort.

>>10567433
She basically buys up as much stock as she can get of the 4L and 2L sizes of all the blouses and some of the dresses on body line. It’s almost impossible to get the larger sizes straight from the brand because of her and similar people (and of course some regular lolitas too). Which is especially obnoxious because bodyline is one of the few reliable and easy to buy from and cheap sources of pastel sweet style blouses for bustier girls. So anytime I need s 2L blouse she probably will have it whereas bodyline will be sold out because she bought it all. Seems like a lot of effort to only be charging like five dollars more than bodyline does. Part of me wonders if maybe she’s got some sort of inside scoop and gets a bulk discount

>>10567395
Ayrt yeah, that’s the one I shelled out for. The pink one with the appliqué. It was so worth it though, I rarely see it for sale by itself

>>10567401
I don’t think all the newbies hopping on that OTT sweet train know the difference

>>10567369
It depends on original retail, but I can't see myself spending more than $100 on anything that was less than that retail. I like to have sets, but sometimes it's fun to use different headpieces with my dresses and not having the match inspires me to be more creative by necessity.

>>10566711
>velveteen sourcing issues
I thought it was said velveteen was simply too expensive. Can't afford good fabric on 300+ dollar dresses these days, gotta have those sweet margins.

And before someone complains, I'm just mad that they could do it for years but now that lolita and AP as a brand are actually more populair (also thanks to Chinese market), and we see quality only going downhill and velveteen is "too expensive". Feels like they just care more for milking it instead of making money. Especially with AP already having had quality issues due to budget cuts before, like using cheaper fabric and bad sewing from poor countries. Meanwhile some smaller Japanese brands can still keep the quality up for the same price as always while having way less popularity. No way that it's just "too expensive" and not simply wanting to make as much money for as little as possible because you're popular anyways.

>>10566786
report the person who won to the mods. You're not allowed to back out, if you don't want to pay high shipping, you need to ask before bidding. Too many newbies seem to think you can just say whatever and later decide not to buy because they don't read the terms of the site they use.

>>10566791
>That whoe group sounds super cringe, somebody post screenshots.
It's just the old I'm telling Tyler tag group that's renamed after Tyler made a video on Lor's apology. Although they also post caps of "drama", it's mostly just people complaining about scalpers and prices.

>>10566812
There is a lot of velveteen that is synthetic. Lolita tends to use that much more than cotton velveteen.

>>10567388
>>10567391
>>10567393

There was a tutorial on egl.livejournal.com when I was a newbie. I can't find it anymore, guess it's too old and probably lost to time.

If there's really that much interest, I could do up something? Where should I put it? since I don't use amino or facebook or tiktok or instagram. Or just do a collage and leave it up here?

Meantime, here's another bow that you don't have to cut up and it converts back into being a waist tie
https://egl.livejournal.com/19498331.html

>>10567272
Well, if you take an item away from it and put it in your drawer, it's missing on the item itself no? That's how I always read it at least, just the item not being there as it would normally be (no matter if it's lost, broken, or taken aside).

But I guess others might read it as it's lost.

>>10567334
people just don't want to get stuck with some small items they can't sell, so they put it in a batch with some items they know they can sell. It's rather common on both Japanese and Chinese secondhand market.

>>10567393
>you don't iron this material wtf anon
NAYRT but with a good iron and good technique you can iron pretty much any material. I always iron this kind of synthetic IF they get wrinkled while drying.

>>10566813
>>10566808
Way to prove their point. Istg it's always the actual projecting poorfags larping as richfags here(who somehow get really offended over price offers or critique on overpricing), if 90% of it isn't just the same person anyway.

>>10567494
Sure, but velveteen is a type of weave, not a type of material. Velvet and velveteen are actually the same weave, but velveteen was made of cotton and velvet was made out of silk. If it’s made out of artificial fabrics generally they’re usually just called velvet. Velveteen will feel stiffer than velvet so I guess maybe now they’re differentiated by the pliability of the fabric? I’m still under the impression that if some thing is labeled velveteen it’s generally cotton even to this day, because artificial materials won’t create the stiffness that makes it velveteen and not velvet. But even if the velveteen is now sometimes poly, just saying it’s velveteen doesn’t mean it can’t be cotton. It doesn’t make sense.

>>10567505
Just food for thought, actual richfags I know sell their stuff for under retail because they don't need to resell their lolita wardrobes for income. So yeah I agree, people who get up in arms about it and call other people poor are clearly the ones who need that money the most lmao

>>10567511
>actual richfags I know
You're not going to trick people into selling their frills for less like that, anon. The really rich donate their stuff, that's how some anons have found burando at the thrift store.

>>10567512
>The really rich donate their stuff
Talking about donating. I've noticed a few people listing their stuff as "if this doesn't sell, it will be donated to charity shops". Is that supposed to make potential buyers panic-buy or what? Because if you're thinking about donating why not just give it away for free

>>10567506
>Velvet and velveteen are actually the same weave, but velveteen was made of cotton and velvet was made out of silk.
This is not always true, the difference is the pile length and the drape. They can also both be made of silk for example.

I'm not saying velveteen can't be cotton. I'm saying velveteen doesn't equal cotton, since you literally said:
>Velveteen is cotton
Which isn't necessarily true. It could be, but it could just as well not be.
And I'm saying a lot of time in lolita it tends to be synthetic. Not saying all lolita is, because I can't possibly know each lolita peace that ever came into existence and especially on older releases I'm willing to believe some where cotton. But lolita pieces labled as velveteen tend to be synthetic in my experience.

>>10567512
I'm not trying to trick anyone? I just have a couple of wealthy friends who either give their stuff away completely or sell for cheap.

If somebody is stupid enough to base their pricing on wanting to appear rich, that's their problem.

>>10566663
https://discord.gg/eJv6S9QJ9a

>>10567511
I’ve known a few richfags who never resell.

>>10567572
this honestly makes more sense than “selling below retail”
if someone is rich and not just upper middle class, why would they go through the hassle of reselling anything?

>>10567369
I know her irl. She has basically every cut and colorway of milky planet and all the accessories. I’ve noticed her selling lately, so desu I’m just hoping she’ll list her yellow headbow. That I’d pay a fortune for.

>>10567574
It might be for space. Even those who are very wealthy can live in places where space just isn’t available for them like parts or NYC or the big Cali cities.

>>10567574
Exactly. I have a ton of mega rich friends in Shanghai, and they almost never resell. When they do, they actually price extremely high because they only want to sell to other rich people because they want the dress to be taken care of. Being rich doesn’t mean you suddenly don’t know or care about market value. There’s tons of rich celebs and business people who are notoriously cheap.

>>10567578
My rich friend in San Francisco just uses a whole ass spare bedroom for her shit. Tbh I find it a bit excessive. Idk people have a right to have nice things and money, but at the same time, don’t you feel a bit foolish living so lavishly when so many people right outside your door legit don’t have food? It’s a little embarrassing imho. Idk where the line is, but imo there’s a point somewhere along the line where a lavish lifestyle is just kinda embarrassingly unaware of reality. It’s not impressive to me.

>>10567582

If you think the line for lavishness is an extra bedroom for secondhand clothes, lol.

>>10567583
This. I rent a two bedroom house and my spare room is for my wardrobe, too. But it's not like I make enough money to OWN a house? Definitely living a lavish lifestyle here.

>>10567584

It's really ridiculous in light of actual billionaire parachute chinese kids in SF crashing their maseratis and chugging their $750 alcohol as an eye opener. Anon honestly sounds a little jealous.

>>10567513

>"if this doesn't sell, it will be donated to charity shops"

I've done this, if you want my perspective on it. But on my listings it's purely reserved for things that are already cheap, like $10 Bodyline skirts/blouses.

I'm aware the buyer may think it's not "worth" it, that's not what they're paying for. The $10 is for the time and effort of babysitting a low-value transaction, having to package it and take it to the post office, stand in line, deal with posting it, getting a tracking number, and possibly having to follow up with the post office after posting.

My job pays well enough that I just don't want to run around for someone who's paying me $10. At that point I'd rather just put the skirt in a donation bin and be done with it.

Now, the thing is, if I give it away for free, won't I end up having to also babysit the transaction, package it, take it to the post office, stand in line, deal with posting it, getting a tracking number, and then deal with having to follow up after posting? I don't save myself any hard work if I give it away to someone for free. But if I just dump it in a bin somewhere, it's done, easy.

I don't know about those that are slapping it on higher value items. Maybe they have higher standards of how much they should be paid to go to the post office/babysit a transaction. Or else like you said it's to make potential buyers panic-buy. It certainly loses its effect if they end up relisting the item, though.

>>10567498
It's like no one has ever heard of steaming in this thread

>>10567574
In my experience, space/they just don't like something and don't want to keep it around. Y'know, like most people.

>>10567608
Steaming tends to get less wrinkles out than ironing. It's a nice easy solution for stuff that's not too wrinkled, but it's not always enough.

>>10567492
I left them negative feedback that detailed the whole botched transaction. I don't want anybody else to have to deal with this kind of mess.

It's already annoying when somebody backs out of a BIN listing, but backing out of an auction leaves the seller in such an awkward position, especially in terms of being able to price the item.

>>10567582
Do you feel the same way about anyone with an extra room in their house that isn’t purely for daily functioning? Lots of average income people have a spare room that they turn into a hobby room, game room, man cave, den, craft room, sewing room, art studio etc. A lolita might call it a closet but it’s still just a room dedicated to hobby and hardly meets the definition of lavish.

>>10567624
Ugh, I saw this unfold. I wanted that blouse so bad but those insane bitches were bidding way too high. I'm low-key pissed not only that it sold for the price it did, but that the other bidders that made me not want to bid didn't even have the means to buy it, I would have absolutely paid around $150 for it. Fuck those buyers, I'm sorry you dealt with that, and frankly I'm devastated for me.

>>10567635
I feel you anon, I would've paid the same amount for that blouse. Hopefully we both can get it someday! It's so cute

>>10566786
you could restart the auction and put the highest bid as the buy it now price?

>>10567640
It already sold to one of the original bidders

>>10567638
I hope so! Honestly I wanted it in a different color so I'm trying to tell myself it's fine I missed it but, I'm still sad. I'm hoping AP just releases something similar soon, the pom poms on moco moco bunny gave me hope!

>>10567643
Same here, I'd be happy with any colorway really though I have to admit that lav has some priority.... I'm also hoping for new AP blouses in a similar style, at least the jelly candy toys one gives me more hope too. Fingers crossed for more good blouse releases! May we succeed in buying them all <3

>post NWT AP dress thats been in my closet for 4 years on LM
>someone buys it in 1 day
>everything is going great and i pack it up to send off
>they receive it and claim that it came covered in cat pee
>don't even own a cat
>sends pics of a horribly stained dress
>call me a scammer and demand their money back
>i tell them that I had insurance on it, so they can have that as a refund
>they aren't impressed and open a paypal dispute
>I agree to give a full refund on the dress' return because I'm mentally exhausted of this girl calling me a liar everyday for weeks
>receive a ruined dress back and cry about being scammed

I'm honestly about to throw this dress out because I don't even want to deal with the staining and trying to find another buyer

>>10567779
Yeah this is why I will probably never sell my dresses.

>>10567779 i feel sorry gor you but why didn’t you fight it? paypal would have sided with you if you took pictures of it beforehand

>>10567779
Name and shame

>>10567788
I thought about it, but I was scared that I wouldn't have much of a case as they weren't time stamped, and not as detailed as her photos of the damage. Plus it was getting to a point where I couldn't stand dealing with it anymore so I just cut my loses to avoid contacting her more

I regret not fighting it more honestly but what can you do

>>10567790
celeste707

I thought I was in the clear because of her good feedback lmao

>>10567635
>>10567638
I'm so sorry you anons missed out. It really is a gorgeous blouse. The only reason I ended up selling it was that the combination of narrow shoulders and un-elasticated cuffs made it so that when I buttoned them, it was on that level of "it fits but I can't raise my arms". It absolutely breaks my heart too, because I'd had it on my wishlist for so long before I finally found it. It hurts when you finally get a dream item and it doesn't fit (in a way that you really can't do anything about).

I wish you both the very best at being able to find the blouse someday. Pretty much everything will pop up on the secondhand market eventually, it's just a matter of waiting. I looked for it for years before I found it, so I'm sure you'll both get your hands on it eventually!

Oh man. Out of curiosity I looked up the profile of that girl who bought a million listings and never paid for anything. Her negative feedback is so high now, yet her account is still intact?? How hasn't she been banned from LM yet?

>>10567779
Shit like this terrifies me. I'm going to start filming myself packing a dress and taking detail shots with timestamps

>>10567808
Holy shit why did anyone sell to her after the first 5 negatives

>>10567779
i'm so sorry anon, you got totally screwed. if it's any consolation, i had a similar experience and now only sell to people who i know through friends or who are actively searching for a piece. it's not worth the hassle otherwise. also out of curiosity.... what dress was it?

>>10567808
Apparently the LM admin is AWOL . All mods can do is unverify a user so they can't do anything.
But yeah, my friend was one of the first people to have a bad experience with her and was scared to giver her a bad review.
Though it seems after the first bad review went up, a lot of people seemed to realize she was doing the same shit with everyone so everyone else just let loose.

>>10567867
I heard the LM admin caught corona and died and now the mods are in panic mode

>>10567867
>>10567871
Isn't it time to move the whole shebang to a professional site like mercari or poshmark? LM is full of lunatics running the asylum.

>>10566724
I've done it twice in the last month, both dresses have been relisted many many times and are over double the market value (I offered above market still). Neither seller replied to me but it felt better than not trying.

>>10567893
There’s a list going around of people like you who do this so sellers know not to sell to you FYI

>>10567901
that's fine, I'm not going to be buying from scalpers who are that disconnected from market prices anyway

>>10567902
It’s not just being sent to “scalpers.”

>>10567904
lol ok anon, I'm sure a seller is gonna not sell me their random unpopular dress based on a list they got from a scalper

>>10567904
Nayrt but if the only people they are requesting price cuts from are people pricing way above actual market value, like a not insanely rare or popular item that's 200% above even the highest market price, then they'd never make price cut requests of non-scalpers and pose no real annoyance or problem.

>>10567906
I’m not a scalper. Nor are the majority of the people I know of who have gotten this list. People need to be warned about like you and like the person in the OP pic

>>10567908

are you equating privately requesting a reasonable middle ground price for a clearly unwanted/overpriced item that is not selling to public poorfag whining over auctions getting bid high?

>>10567909
Sellers don’t want to be harassed and begged for $100 off on items

>>10567913
>Harassed and begged

lol I messaged them both once

>>10567915
One time too many, poorfag

>>10567916
lol ok weirdo, enjoy your 0 sales. Also I'm not remotely poor, but I'm not paying double the price on principal.

>>10567917
Seethe that you can’t get what you want more

>>10567913

the point is the sellers who are getting messages aren't being harassed or begged and are not the average seller, it's almost certainly exclusively a scalper or someone who just doesn't realize their price is well above what the market is willing to pay because they aren't experienced at selling or something. In either case, one message asking a question and then being told no or ignored isn't harassment at all.

i don't ask for price cuts but good god do you think people messaging once to ask for a shipping quote or combining shipping on multiple items is harassing too?

>>10567920
SEETHE

>>10567922
Sounds like you're the one seething over the fact that people will pay $1k for kitschy prints like Honey Cake or for a pit stained Sugary Carnival or Dreamy Baby Room but not for the less popular piece you own even though you desperately wish they would.

>>10567924
That’s a whole lot of assumption and projection nonny. Maybe you should get a basket to help you carry it

>>10567901
a list of people who ask for... discounts? who you can easily tell no/ignore? wouldn't it be better to keep a list of people who actually cause tangible problems lol

>>10567608
My thought exactly, wtf

>>10567619
You don't know how to steam properly, then.

>>10567913
Hi celeste707, keep the whining in your TOS

>>10567955
kek, thanks for naming and shaming, now i know to never buy from them. have fun with your unsold overpriced listings nonny

>>10567955
This is doxxing and it is a crime. Delete this now.

>>10567962
kek

>>10567962
i actually lol'ed anon, thanks

>>10567779
How would a dress get cat pee on it at the post office? Also you literally have cat pics on your insta

>>10567779
The box was intact? And it was wrapped? And you’ve posted about having cats? Come on dude you’ve gotta do better than this.

>>10567971
I guess you're assuming who it is but having pics of cats or animals, even if they aren't yours/don't live with you on your social media is like, something an overwhelming majority of people online have

>>10567779
Pics or it didn't happen

>>10567779
You are such a liar. You literally have cats on your social medias

>>10567986
>>10567976
>>10567985
>>10567971

If the seller is telling the truth, this sounds like the scammy buyer samefagging. If the seller is lying, what a retarded lie to tell when the transaction is public enough for people to now exactly who you are, find your social media, and prove you wrong.

>>10567987
Its way too fantastical of a story, she should post a pic of the damaged dress or like caps or just... something. She knows how to use greentext but not how to block someones obviously bs messages? Fake.

>>10567992
>block someones obviously bs messages

I assumed they were saying the person called them a liar for weeks via the PayPal dispute responses, not like on their social media or anything.

>>10567779
This you?
>"My pets"
>Picture of cat

>>10567992
If the buyer doesn't have animals at all that would make the seller look even more sus, unless they are going to try to claim the buyer pissed on the dress herself

>>10567994
wait so is celeste707 both the cat piss dress buyer and ALSO one of those people selling unwanted items at double market price according to an anon itt?

>>10567901
Is this the list that Gnomie threatened to start? Why isn't this bitch banned from LM and lolita groups.

>>10567837
It was all at once. She bought a ton of listings all on the same day

>>10567994
>B.C
makes sense.

>>10567997
no i'm the anon talking about the double market value items, the two people I contacted are both known scalpers according to the cgl archive and unrelated to the cat piss situation

>>10567779
this is so scummy of you. we saw the pics of that piss-stained dress. it was dried and caked on there, it was not something that would have happened within the time she received it and reached out to you. you lied about owning cats and you insisted it was damaged during shipping despite the box was being dry and in perfect condition. gtfo of here.

>>10568007
I haven't been on cgl in like a week, was this some drama that went down here or something?

>>10567879
Tbh I’ve only had 1 bad experience out of hundreds of transactions. I prefer LM because it’s free. A 10-20% fee adds up fast. I’ve sold thousands of dollars of stuff on there over the years and now way do I want to give like 1200 away. The 3% to PayPal is bad enough. The biggest problem with the system is that people are just sending money requests and not proper invoices. When you send a proper PayPal invoice as you can include pictures of the item condition and your TOS on there. That way you’re covered if the buyer tries to fuck with you. I’ve also told sellers that I wouldn’t pay until they sent a proper invoice. Just sending a money request that says “AP dress” is sketchy as fuck

>>10567994
That cat looks guilty af, what a pisser

>>10568008
the buyer posted about it in our comm like last month asking for help, originally she was just asking for advice on how to clean it. the comm is the one who said she should try to get her money back. the seller insisted the damage happened in transit and that she didn't have any pets.

>>10568015
Do you have pics of the dress?

What is it with shitty sellers coming to cgl to complain and whine as if we aren’t going to immediately check receipts? I mean I’m all for the drama but gd they dumb af.

>>10567779
I saw pics of your cat-pissed dress. You sent it that way and should feel ashamed of yourself for being such a PIG! Who does that shit?

>>10568024
>Anonymous
The buyer is a close friend of mine and I have pictures of the dress and the box it came in. Completely dry and in one piece

>>10568024

>>10568067
Holy shit that is nasty

>>10568051
Right?! The pictures don't even do the damage justice and there is no way it happened in transit.

>>10568067
Maybe usps workers got bored, took it out and pissed on it lol

>>10568067
Holy shit imagine trying to pass this off as damage in transit lmao >>10567779
Wtf dude???

>>10568077
I stand corrected, the damage could have happened if an usps worked got bored took it out, pissed on it, let their cat hack on it, let it dry, and then put it nicely back in the box. Lmao

>>10568067
Was the box soaked in pee? It's not unreasonable to think a cat got into the sorting facility and pissed on a couple of boxes. Otherwise yeah looks like the buyer is a bitch if the box is normal.

>>10568088
You mean the seller. If it's dry pee (dry pee can still stink), and the box is clean (as in nothing happened in transit), then the seller is the one lying.

>>10568067
the seller only listed one proof photo, and she originally posted it on /cgl/ at the start of 2020. chances are the cat got into her closet and pissed on it and she didn’t bother to check.

>>10568088
The box was completely dry, no stains to be found

>>10568067
The seller hasnt looked at the dress since 2016 possibly so its possible it happened a while ago and they neglected to check. Even if they dont have a cat now they certainly used to per higher up in the thread. Possible theory

>>10568095
What a dumbass

>>10568095
Jesus why wouldn’t you open it and just check before sending it out
At least for mothballs? To make sure it’s the right dress and you’re not accidentally sending off your moitie??

>>10567779
I had a DHL package arrive after it had clearly been soaked in some kind of urine. It def happens. I threw out the taobao crap I didn't care about, but I got my vanilla chan dry cleaned and hardcore steamed and it turned out alright. I'd definitely take it up with the courier.

>>10568119
>pissed on vanilla chan

The things of nightmares...

>>10568067
This is so weird, I had an almost identical experience with a seller on depop, but replace a lolita dress with a homura akemi cosplay. Sometimes I swear I still get whiffs of the urine smell coming off the box...

A buyer is complaining that i lied about damages when the button is loose. A goddamn loose button. I replied a day late because I’m out of town. She left me negative feedback saying I’m a liar.
I sent screenshots to LM’s mods and I just feel like throwing up. It’s my only negative feedback and no one will ever buy from me because of this

>>10568067
Wow that's horrifying. What a horrible experience, makes me feel lucky with my purchases desu
>>10568077
Lol anon what the shit, this is making me laugh harder than it should be

>>10568067
I remember them posting in the BST thread, glad I passed.

>Me
>Washing every piece separately before selling, air drying and steaming
>Fold dress and wrap it in cute packaging
>Add little note and stickers

>Every seller I buy from
>Throw wrinkly and clearly worn dress unfolded in a box and ship it

And this is why I stopped buying from US sellers.

>>10568235
The most disgusting piece I ever received was by an EU seller. It smelled like pure old sweat, like the person ran a marathon in the dress in the midst of a desert. It was velvet, too , so I couldn't just throw it in the wash and had to bring it to the dry cleaners. They could fix it by I still felt disgusted and re-sold the dress shortly afterwards.

>>10568235
I’ve bought hundreds of items and desu, lolitas are just a nasty bunch. People serious think they don’t need to launder their clothes and we accept as a group much worse condition in our secondhand items

Can we post users to avoid on lm? Just came across a very awful experience with a buyer

>>10568275
Spill the experience

is it just me or do some sellers go out of their way to make their stuff look bad?

Picrel you can rescue this calcifying Baby JSK from seller’s dungeon for a paltry $565

>>10568277
>buyer forgets i sent her tracking info
>starts pestering me
>it arrives
>she messaged me apparently
>had no clue, left my laptop at home
>im out of town
>i decided to log in on my phone because I wanted to contact a different buyer
>got 2 messages from the idiot
>”why did you lie to me? You sent me damaged item”
>”i tried to contact you but you didn’t reply”
>she literally gave me less than a day to respond but ok
>confused as fuck
>i try to talk it out with her
>she’s beyond reasonable, starts threatening me
>i send her screenshots of the item, showing that there isn’t any damages
>she stops replying and leaves on read
The damages?
A fucking loose button. She left negative feedback. I tried to leave negative feedback back explaining everything above but LM straight up changed my negative to a positive somehow.

>>10568281
Same anon: the button was a waist tie button
I’m pretty sure she stopped replying when she realized she wasn’t going to win the case or get her money back

>>10568275
Yes, please name and shame. I had an almost identical experience on a different platform.

>>10568288
Was she from east asia?

>>10566929
More pet peeves.

> People who leave feedback based on how they fit in the garment. This has nothing to do with me as a seller unless I misrespresented the measurements, which I'm careful not to do
> International buyers who don't ask for shipping quotes, buy the item, then freak out when they find out shipping costs
> People who blog or send paragraphs in the messages to you
> People who click BIN but don't have money/can't pay for another 5 days. Yeah I could cancel the sale but who knows how long it will be before someone else buys it. So I just deal with it

>>10568300
>I could cancel the sale but who knows how long it will be before someone else buys it. So I just deal with it
Revise your TOS and state buyers must send a payment within 24-48 hours

Final few minutes

It would be nice if LM had an "follow user" option so you could easily see when they put something up for sale

>>10568317
Jesus I didn't expect it to go that high, but then again it is the best condition and nicest colorway I've seen so far

>>10568303
This type of thing is crazy to me. BIN means you can pay immediately and if not and the TOS don't state a window like 24-48 hours that you know you can pay within, you should talk to the seller BEFORE buying. Plus CCs are a fucking thing. PayPal even has a pay in 4 type thing now. I always pay on time and never buy if I don't have the money right then, it astonishes me that so many buyers are shitty.

>>10568281
You can ask the LM mods on FB to change your negative feedback as well.

ok?

>>10568351
Classics please provide some clarity on this

>>10568351
'if it's your dream dress you'll pay this anyway'
what an incredible line of reasoning

>>10568355

I mean this is the logical extreme of what anons have been advocating here all along.

>>10568354
As a classic who routinely overpays, this is ridiculous.

>>10568351
huh, that JSK in the same colorway sold for $500 in 18 and 19. Other colors is about $300

>>10568351
huh, that JSK sold for $500 two years ago.

>>10568355
No, no I'll not lmao what was she thinking

>>10568359
What's so special about this dress? I just saw a similar one selling for 220€.

>>10568351

Sometime in 2013 when SC was declining in popularity I tried to talk about having to wait for it to drop in pricing from the $600 people were trying to charge for a worn dress, and some anons on the board were posting everywhere that if it was my dream dress I'd just pay up no matter the price, and that I didn't know what a dream dress was.

So I think >>10568355 isn't very far off.

>>10568351
God I know it won't happen but I really wish it went unsold forever and ever

>>10568319
I agree. I live in a smallish country with expensive shipping so it'd be nice to follow all of those I see who live here just so I can find cheaper basics.

>>10568351
As a classic lolita I can confirm this is ridiculous. That said, it only takes one person to be willing to buy, and the market is fucked forever.

What pisses me off is how she says she didn’t even wear it, plus it has pit stains?

>>10568351
I'm collecting MM and there are so many better dresses I can get for half this price. This person is delusional lmao

>>10568235
I'm the same like you. I could never send out an unwashed item. I double check every inch, take multiple photos from different angles and under different light. I'm so paranoid about getting in trouble because paypal tends to side with the buyer almost every time.

On the other side I received items in bad condition, with bad packaging from all over the world. The worst experiences I had was with a seller from Russia sending me an unwashed item witj a used tissue left in the pocket and damages which weren't mentioned. Plus the shipping took ages. I also got unwashed items from France and the Netherlands which were drowned in perfume instead and covered in human hair.

One time I traded with a girl from the US and she waited with sending out her dress until she got mine, which wasn't like we had agreed on before. Fun fact she demanded an expensive express shipping while she did snail mail for me (probably to save the bucks).

The other time I bought from a seagull and they didn't send out the item for months without responding at all.

I also had a buyer who didn't pay my invoice for a week without communication. That was the first time I left neutral feedback.

With hindsight I shouldn't buy and sell online at all but there are this wonderful experiences too, with buyers who appreciate my little gifts and notes, writing me personal stories that it was their dream item, sometimes showing me their coords with too.
Sellers who agree on payment plans, giving me a discount I didn't ask for and so on.

I still believe if you play nice, the others will do as well (eventually). But I also agree that lolitas are pigs.

>>10568281
I think I know exactly who this is, but do spill the deets

>>10568415
>unwashed item witj a used tissue left in the pocket
I once got some old contacts in the pocket. I've heard of condoms too. Check your pockets ladies.

>>10568351
>Finally, about the price. I know it's high, but I also know that this dress is very rare and only a few of them exist in the world. And I also know that if it is your dream dress, you'll be happy to buy it anyway. Some other less rare and less quality dresses have been sold for more than that.
>Also even if I quit Lolita a few years ago, it is still very hard for me to let it go and I want a good price for it. I bet every Lolita can understand that. It's my choice and your call to decide if you want to/can buy it or not
I hope MM announces a rerelease tomorrow, imagine the delusion of selling a pit-stained, stretched out dress for this

>>10568422
Oh she just dropped the price, though it's still overpriced.

Looks like we're getting to her.

now it's €750 lol

>>10568429

>>10568422
>Some other less rare and less quality dresses have been sold for more than that.
This should have been either
>Some other more sought after very popular dresses have been sold for more.
or
>Some other rare dresses that already costed 4K new and where MTO have been sold for more.

I really can't think of any not either super populair/sought rare dress, or one of those extremely expensive BTSSB/AP dresses that sold for more. IDK what she's comparing against.

>>10568392
Mary Magdalene had quite a limited releases and is know to always have superb quality so they rarely go really cheap. But there is no reason it should cost this much. Generally 150~400 if they're in perfect condition depending on popularity/iconic-ness. This isn't even one of the iconic releases like Ekaterina, Marie Antoinette, Petit Fleurs or St. Claire and apparently it has pit stains...

>>10568430
Is it still rude if you make an offer for a normal price on listings like this? Where everyone can agree it's severely overpriced. You'll easy get above the 30% sale people where talking about earlier if you make a offer that's still reasonable or even a bit higher than what it usually sells for.

And does it make any difference in this kind of case that it has a Make me an offer! button or not?

Not interested in this dress. But it makes me curious. Because if it's ok in this case, where do you put the line between somewhat overpriced where you don't ask too much off despite going for less before, and extremely overpriced where you can ask for much less?

>>10568351
Mary magdalene is my favorite brand and I'd say this is one of my favorite JSKs from them. I searched many years for this, but it's not worth that much. I paid a lot less for this exact dress and I think the market price of $500 is steep already. The green color way was a Kera exclusive and could maybe fetch more than $500, but 750 euro is still a hard no. Having said that, I would love the green color way..

>>10568439
Hahaha thats great, might jump onto the meme bandwagon

>>10568448
I wouldn't because the seller is delusional. I think you'd still have to meet halfway for them to even bother replying.

>>10568451
Also wanted to add for confused sweet lolita's that Mary Magdalene JSKs are the most fitted, tailored dresses I've come across in lolita. But again that price is too much.

>>10568451
Also the dollar is weak atm. 750€ equals about $900. You are paying even more because of the weak conversion rate. If anyone buys this at all, it will be a desperate Eurofag.

Lowkey want to send an offer of €100 for it idc if it's rude it's overpriced and they know it

>>10568451

This. I have valeria as well as a couple of other JSKs in that cut, and they're one of the most flattering pieces I own despite being a simple cut.

That being said, $900 is still way too much, and I too paid a lot for mine.

>>10568470
Yeah, it's technically no different than Felicia Rose, or Rose Basket, and they're all commercial prints (MM doesn't do original prints, besides the Perfume print), so there's really no reason it should be more than around 500USD.

>>10568478
Out of all the prints you mentioned I think Valeria looks the best print wise even if it's not a self produced print. Depending on the color maybe rose basket could go $500, but felicia rose is definitely not as popular.

>>10568478

Personally I feel like it's pretty iconic and versatile which is why I would pay more for it than the other mentioned prints. It's a versatile print and I like you could go from a very typical classic lolita coord for tea to a more flowy coordinate for the park, something that just isn't quite as there for the other patterns.

I'm a bit biased anyways. Rose basket is also lovely though, although the fabric is weirder and doesn't fall as nicely.

>>10566663
The girl in teal is currently freaking out on FB because someone called her out for her own scalping.
Shes selling free junk she got at anime cons.

>>10568518
lol where?

>>10568521
The Im TellingTyler/EGL Wall of Shame fb group.
It seems the stupid scalping is on her animemarket account.
This TOTALLY HIGH QUALITY BAG can be yours for the low, low price of $50 BIN!!!

>>10568448
I think it is. Whether we agree with the price or not, it's entitled to think they should sell you a dress at X price. It's theirs to do what they want with it. The best thing is to let it sit and if they really want to sell, they will reduce accordingly. If the offer button is disabled, that means don't offer imo. Wait until someone sells it at the market price if you want it that bad

kek this person is selling school girl skirts out of their car

>>10568534
I came here to post that. It's utterly bizarre. Initially I assumed scalper but then read their weird-ass description. They sound mental.

>>10568527
I don't understand why that would be rude to offer what you sincerely think is reasonable, though. They can just say no thank you nbd.

>>10568541
But if they wanted offers, would they not have that option enabled? Reasonable is subjective to different people. I consider it a waste of my time to field those messages. As another person said earlier in the thread, sometimes people trying to haggle turn out to be difficult to work with so I don't want to even bother with it personally

Wtf? Adding 7% tax to all sales just because you had to pay tax?
Why wouldnt you just add it to the original price i hate it when people add random extra fees

LM: the audacity edition

>>10568419
i got a broken tooth in a pocket once.

>>10568574
Is...there more details on this?

>>10568560
The option is enabled on the updated listing.>>10568430

This is a minor thing but I had a buyer send a rude message after I was clear I would be shipping something purchased on Saturday after the weekend. My TOS flat out says I don't ship things on weekends or Monday. How hard is it for people to look at TOS before buying something?

>>10568095
>>10568093
>>10568078
>>10568067
to clear things up, that old 4chan post featured my mothers cat, who has been dead for over 6 years now. the dress was always stored at my fathers house who has no pets. I inspected the dress before sending it off and it was spotless. I only said that it was the post office because I wasn't going to accuse this person of ruining a dress to scam me because I didn't a) want to be that person who does that and b) i didnt want to believe it to be the case

I've also been denied any further action with the post office for insurance purposes due to the seller avoiding their attempt at communication with her multiple times so not only did she ruin my dress, she also won't let me try and file for insurance

But honestly I'm so done with anything and everything to do with this fucking dress, and I'm just glad its over with. Maybe I should spread the rumour that I pissed on it because thats a better story desu

>>10568612
Since the dress is already ruined, have you considered throwing it in the washer to see what happens?

>>10568613
thats a good idea desu, nothing worse could happen to it. It's currently at my parents house so next time I'm over there I'll throw it in the wash

>>10568613
It's currently at my parents so next time I'm over there I'll definitely throw it in the wash!

>>10568569
I nearly bought something from this person a while ago but decided not to when I saw this bullshit. Don't tack on a "tax" when you and I both know the government isn't getting that 7%.

>>10567791
>I wouldn't have much of a case as they weren't time stamped,
>not as detailed as her photos of the damage

this is beginning to sound sus, anon. Of you. It sounds like SHE covered her bases.

>>10567994
PFFFFFFFFFFFF called it. Based detective anon!! PFFFFFFFF This seller going on my shitlist. Hilarious shit, thanks CGL for coming through my m8s.

>>10568067
OH MY FUCKING GOD
@sugar_dollie is the seller, anons! Watch out, we've got a pisser on our hands!!

>>10568084
>>10568088
see >>10567994 anons

>>10568627
youre late to the party m8

>>10568612
LMFAO @sugar_dollie coming at us again

>>10568628
yeah but it's still good reading m8

honestly just block sugar_dollie and celeste707, neither of these people seem worth the hassle

>>10568612

If the post office told you they contacted her multiple times, they lied to you. She was contacted once about the whole situation from the post office.
And she didn't respond because after looking into it she realized there wasn't a case. She has pictures of the box, which I posted in this thread. It has no sign of any damage or wet spots.
Even if we ignore all the other evidence she presented and that I posted here, you still don't have a case with the post office with an undamaged box. It sucks but they weren't going to pay out on something like that with no proof.

>>10567835
It's definitely overkill, but I've been burned before. Now I try to film a video of myself packing items into the box and sealing it. Plus a shot of the shipping label. It doesn't have to be pretty. I usually just prop my phone up against whatever's handy and then pick the camera up to capture any relevant details. It's a sink of five minutes each time, but it's worth it for the peace of mind over getting a scammy buyer.

>>10568670
just take a time stamped photo.

>>10568329
The collar is yellowed to hell, it's missing the ribbon around the neck and the print could be cracked. Japanese sellers purposely take shit photos and don't disclose damages because it's near impossible to return items on second hand sites. I'm aghast this went as high as it did.

>>10568329
>>10568686
It’s Puppet Circus in one of the two best colorways. It was always going to go for 1k.

>>10568688
You're better off buying the JSK in better condition for that price nonny

>>10568690
Okay? I’m not the person who bought it, I already have the JSK in wine.

Tfw gnomie was scalping LW on ebay for $600.
What a fucking unhinged hypocrite.

>>10568612
Anon I unearthed an old poly AP dress that had multiple stains on it. I put some stain remover on it (something carbon based, can't remember the name of it) and threw it in the wash and 90% of it disappeared. It looked like I committed a murder in it beforehand and afterwards only a faint spot remained. None of the coloring faded either. I have hope for your dress if you give it some stain treatment and a wash, maybe sending to the dry cleaner.

It still sucks hard though, that is so shitty of the seller.

>>10568569
What’s especially stupid here is that adding sales tax is a thing, but it’s based on the state of the person who bought not just arbitrarily because you had to pay it.

>>10568701
also aren't clothes nontaxed in most states? Esp second hand clothing?

>>10568696
Haha just further reiterates it’s always the poorfag who cry the hardest about so called scalping.

>>10568627
Fwiw anon I believe you. Her account of what happened is pretty sus. It doesn’t make any sense. Any seller with half a brain cell would just get it dry cleaned and sell it in whatever condition it came back in, especially for this dress.

>>10568703
Varies by state, but usually goods purchased online are exempt from that.

>>10568569
I charge tax because I report all online sales on my tax returns which you’re legally supposed to do and I pay taxes on those transactions. People are free not to buy from me if they have a problem with it.

>>10568711
that's not actually what you're required but okay.

>>10568712
It varies from state to state but in my state I have to but okay, I guess I should believe you over my accountant.

>>10568714
Include tax in the overall price then

>>10568714
At least say so in the TOS then? Just saying "you gotta pay tax because I had to" makes you look like an asshole.

>>10568714
This is the correct option

>>10568714
Can you put that in the ToS then because what you had originally, just made you sound like a dickwad trying to get more money for any reason. but this makes a lot more sense
I guess i’m also supposed to report tax on stuff but i can’t bother and I don’t really make any money

>>10568716

This.

>>10568714
you're not supposed to charge your state's tax though lmfao.

>>10568723
most states only require it after a certain amount of money so...

>>10568711
are you running a business? because normal people shouldn't have to do that.

>>10568730
Not necessarily true anon. You don't have to report if you're just selling your personal items, however that assumes you aren't making a profit on it. If you sell for more than what you bought it for, you are supposed to report that difference. If you sell a lot for inflated prices, it adds up.

>>10568733
True, and to add to this you aren’t issued a 1099K to report with unless you have logged over $20,000 in sales or 200 transactions (whichever you hit) through a single selling platform/payment service. Aside from like 2-3 states that have lower thresholds, you do not have to report the sales because you’re not a business and it isn’t profitable income to sell personal items.

>>10568738
anon is an idiot anyway and doesn't know that you need to apply the customer's local state tax for their online purchases,

>>10568417
Her username? What deets?

>>10568288
>>10568417
Eunha on LM

Aww did the loud mouth who cries about scalpers every other day get caught scalping?

>>10568522
Is this hand draw with markers? Because it looks like it. The kanji aren't even properly proportioned and the drawing looks like a high school weeaboo who can't draw but is too set on becoming the next most famous mangaka. Who would even think about asking 50 dollar for that kek.

>>10568608
>How hard is it for people to look at TOS before buying something?
About as hard as checking the shipping price tab. I lost count how many people ask me what shipping is when it's clearly stated in the listing. Same for sizes btw. Like, I literally list the cm sizing and people still ask...

>buys an item
>years later sells it
>college is expensive
>laid off and eating ramen
>sells item along with others to pay for classes
>original seller mislabeled the item
>turns out the brand had an identical item but theres a slight difference
>buyer wants a full refund because the one item isnt what she wanted
>literally broke because college
>buyer says she doesn’t care and she’s contacting paypal
tf do i do? I would understand if i used the money for more brand or some weeb shit but i sold everything for my bachelors degree. Fuck me this hell is never ending.

>>10568904
i mean, they liked how the item looked enough to buy it, and as long as it's not a rep... i think they're clearly overreacting just so they can get their money back and keep the item.

when she files the claim, basically tell paypal what you told us and include pictures of the item it was mislabeled as to show they're basically identical?

>>10568906
Its a kumya pochette. The original seller listed it as one and apparently it’s the coin purse. It was my first kumya item and I didn’t even know there was a coin purse version.
The proof pictures show the coin purse chain so hopefully they side with me. I wish she would understand that I can’t do anything. I asked her to list the kumya and she said no. She told me to refund her after she sends back the lot and i have to relist it. When it would save everyone time and money if she just listed it herself.
Fuck college and fuck people like her.

>>10568904
What was it mislabled as and what was it really? If it was labled as something much more rare or sought after I would be pissed to. But if it are two generic or equally sought after items that's another story. Also depends how much they look alike really. Can't judge if we don't know how easy it was to make the mistake and how much such a mistake is different in value.

Did you have proof photo's at your listing? If it's nearly identical and the photo's showed the real item, I think the buyer also had to pay more attention.

With not well known releases it's often mixed up. Like all the 3F bonnets that are almost the same but some have a slightly different name. Or the AtePie corset bustle dresses where some are also called slightly different. In that case she would have to deal with it if the pictures where accurate imho. But if it's a rather clear difference or a big difference in value it's on you. For all we know it might have been labled wrongly to make more money.

She can't just take the dress and be like "it's a slightly different item than I thought", keeping both money and the dress just because you had a wrong name. If she get's a full refund she she should at least return the dress so you can resell it again, or settle with a partial refund if she keeps it. If it's on you you should pay return shipping cost, but if it's a understanable mistake return shipping is on her.

But that's just my opinion.

If you really think it's unfair you could go against the PayPal claim is she makes it. She got exactly what's on the photo's. You should have been more careful too though, let it me a lesson for next time to double check what you're selling.

>>10568916
Read >>10568911
idk she expects a full refund. The straps on the kumya rucksack are visible but after double checking, the chain isn’t visible on the coin purse but it also doesn’t have straps because it’s not a pochette. So I don’t know how paypal will handle it.
I wish I could refund her but my college took my entire wardrobe

>>10568921
she deserves to return the item for a full refund. no return, no refund. why should she do the work of relisting it for you just because you have personal problems, that's none of her business.

>>10567604
Same. I'm not listing anything that will only make me a couple bucks, it's not worth the hassle.

>>10568904
Eat eggs and butter instead of ramen, anon, much more nutritional value and your mood will improve.

>>10566929
Kicker is when I already offer free ship then some dumb bint wants another 30% off a sub-$100 item. That's almost always when I get vindictive and don't discount that lone item while discounting the others, and it still sells to someone with more sanity.

>>10567513
Like >>10567604 said, I’ve only done this on extremely cheap shit where I’m openly saying that what the buyer is paying for is the shipping on the item. So it's the equivalent of giving it away for free and I’ve only the patience to be nice about it for a week. It is a signal for interested parties to get on it if they want it but fuck, I’ve straight up donated a bunch of taobao blouses because the buyers for that shit aren't worth the trouble.

>>10568408
>didn't
You mean can't. She straight up admitted to barely fitting in it once and likely being the culprit who caused the fucking stretched seams and then never being able to fit in it again afterward.

I’m gonna assume the pit stains are the result of not being able to wear the damn thing with a blouse too.

>>10567779
I know who you are talking about. She was bragging about trying to get a refund by filing a fraud claim with her bank and potentially keeping the dress so you "couldn't scam anyone else with it". The comm was patting her on the ass about it too.

>>10568235
Are you me lol