/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10563325
You mean >>10558921 ?

>>10563326
yep, thanks anon

>>10563256
>hiding this in here cause it hit sage, I've become obsessed with MMM and plan on buying multiple pieces to alter and fit into
You can't hide anon. Good luck even getting anything

>>10563325
I’ve spent 1,500 dollars on lolita in 2021 alone. My rent and food are fine, but I’m starting to scare myself.
For now I guess I should enjoy the high of knowing there are brand dresses and accessories on the way, including a dd

My confession
I miss housewife-chan
I had a guess at who she was that I think had some merit.

>>10563336
You can’t just say you had a good guess and not share it.

>>10563336
Spill the details coward.

>>10563328
This, what kinda larper thinks they can find two identical pieces of moitie on the market lmfao

>>10563335
For me it's like 4k+ in 2020 and I don't have a job. You're fine anon

>>10563335
I've become a shopping addict because all I do when I get home is refresh mercari I feel this

>>10563335
same anon. I bought like 5 rare ap stuffed pouches in less than 2 weeks and I'm starting to feel bad. I've been kinda ignoring the fashion for like a year tho so I guess this is my way of justifying my loss time lurking secondhand sites.

>>10563335
>>10563400
I'm honestly just jealous you guys are even finding stuff to buy. Secondhand markets have been dry for me, even though I'm constantly looking (that, and my SS keeps getting slower). I don't think I've bought anything for a month and it feels very odd and sad.

>>10563336
HWC was just like BPD camwhore chan but with a more unique writing style.

>>10563345
Maybe she will actually buy from the brand directly, which isn't hard

>>10563392
How do you afford it? I'm on benefits but I don't have anything left after bills

>>10563335
>>10563392
kek for me it was nearly 10k in 2020 you guys are fine

>>10563396
Honestly, it's good to know that you're not alone. I worry myself becuase I'm so impulsive. I'm not in financial trouble or anything but sometimes I'd like to find something other than buying copious amounts of lolita to fill the void

I might say publicly that’s it’s ok if you want to go makeup-less in lolita, but in private I think I think it looks awful. Going without make provides just such a hard contrast between the outfit and the face I cannot get past.

>>10563441
i think it depends on the coord. if you wear a basic coord without busy prints it looks good without make-up. it looks odd if you wear ott though.

>>10563419
I hope she does. Would be nice with more demand for new moitie

>>10563414
I think I just have really unpopular tastes which helps, I also don't care about AP.

>>10563461
Same. Having a good time buying old and cheap btssb

Even though I’m not overweight, I’m trying to lose weight just to be certain I fit into the cream cookie collection OP which is coming in the mail.

>>10563467
Is your goal weight normal or underweight?

>>10563476
I’m mostly going for measurements (bust is the main issue) and don’t have a scale readily available, but if I reach the verge of becoming underweight and it still won’t fit I’ll give up
That probably won’t happen though given my current measurements

>>10563476
lower end of average, I'm just trying to return to the pre-covid days

>>10563478
anon in my experience your bust won't change too drastically with weight loss. i've lost about 25 lbs over the past half year and am now lighter than my pre covid weight. but it's my waist measurement that's changed, not really my bust. also keep in mind your shoulder measurements. i know that even if my waist is small enough, i'll never be able to fit into ap ops because i've got a larger bust and broader shoulders than the vast majority of japanese girls

>>10563336
She's the same person as 10k anon. 10k anon's socials got exposed. It's pretty obvious.

>>10563529
Who???

>>10563529
You mean >>10563426 ?

>>10563547
>>10563548

She was someone who claimed to be rich and wanted to make friends so she offered 10k to anyone who would be her friend. I guess I never connected the dots but it makes sense at the same time her socials were exposed HWC disappeared

>>10563549
I wouldn’t be too surprised if that were true, but I always assumed HWC was some bored larper like bpd camwhore anon.

>>10563551

I mean 10k anon was pretty fucking bored. She was also shit posting money next to burando and boasting about her accomplishments of... Talking to old people in a nursing home.

I agree while it sort of narrows it down I feel it could still be chalked up to coincidence unless anon has more evidence

>>10563553
More than coincidence. I think if anyone reads HWC's shitposts (especially anything pertaining to the prints she likes), looks at the posts on the farms, and saw 10k anon's socials (which are still up under a different name), it's glaring.

>>10563551
What if I told you I'm HWC and I divorced my old husbando and started camming and finally got diagnosed with BPD instead of just muh anxieties and changed my typing style a lot

>>10563557
Where can we find 10k anons socials? Is it on a specific lolita general thread on the farms? Google is being entirely unhelpful.

>>10563549
HWC disappeared a year or two before that anon.

>>10563557
10k chan likes menhera and HWC would spend hours sperging and derailing the menhera threads about how much she hated it.

>>10563572
Ever heard of a red herring?

>>10563557
It’s entirely possible for two different bored, insane rich anons to have posted on /cgl/ though. Especially given >>10563562

>>10563582
Too tinfoily for me. Plus looking at the dates >>10563562 is correct.

>>10563584
HWC was obviously a troll and would post about saying whatever to get people to hate her. I doubt she was rich. There’s still some doubt 10k anon was rich, but she did have 10k lying around and that’s probably more than HWC ever had

Think it's time I had a tripcode what about you gulls?

Anyway, not a larper, I lie a lot but only irl. Also I'm Canadian if anyone was wondering eh.

>>10563559
@moonstonemelody

>>10563590
Did you cover up your shit in the background?

>>10563590
looking forward to hwc part 2

>>10563593
No, and I cammed in cat's tea party the other day. And I'm the vegan anon who doesn't wash their clothes.

>>10563598

>I'm not lying!
>Posts about camming in one of the most sought after dresses

In the words of zoomers, seems sus.

>>10563598
Expand business and sell crusty bloomers

>>10563599
There was literally an MTO less than 2 years ago nonny. I'm not a poorfag. Well, I'm not rich, but I have disposable income out my asshole. I've been wearing lolita for years.

>>10563603

I don't care if you can afford it or not it's so trite and stereotypical. Yawn.

>>10563606
What should I cam in next? Sugar Hearts? DDH? Dream Fantasy? Fairy Marine? I chose CTP since I asked my fans if I should wear something with toys, bunnies, food, or cats and they all said cats because it's pretty well known I love cats. CTP seemed like the obvious choice considering the only other cat print I have is Dolly Cat OP. I wore CTP blouseless with the choker for my show.

>>10563599
>believing anything this person says is real or true
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

>>10563617
Do you have dreamy baby room?

>>10563592
>was already following them
I like their flatlays but never thought "this is surely the closet of someone who's loaded"
Just seems like an average/expected amount for someone who's been around for 10 years and made anything above min wage salary

>>10563619
this isn't the farms though, trust that at the very least I'm telling half truths and anything that happens to be untrue is purposefully meant to mislead so my true identity isn't caught onto because that would shatter my reality and send me into a suicidal spiral of paranoia

>>10563420
no job =/= no money, maybe they're just rich

>>10563621
what sort of lolita-who-is-also-an-ageplayer would I be if I didn't, nonny? I got it for cheap 2ndhand when sweet wasn't booming though. No fucking way would I pay $500+ for it. Well maybe I would but the voice of my jewish oma would be freaking out in my head the entire time.

>>10563617
what colorway sugar hearts?

>>10563629
white but I really hope they do a rerelease because I want mint, it's a nicer color on me desu

>>10563631
jealous, I really want the white

cam in that, get some use out of it. I'm proud of you.

also you should get cherish my juicy cherry if you don't have it already

>>10563623
this isn't from lc idiot, theirs is
>The lolcows posted here are, shockingly, not works of fiction or falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as false.
where do you think they got that saying from? it's a slightly altered version of >>10563619 which is from right here on 4chan you dumbass.

>>10563632
>cherish my juicy cherry
as hilarious as the print name is, I'm not really one for BTSSB unless we're talking usakumyas. I have like 10 usakumyas and a whole dickload of AP plush bags including a couple pony bags I got for cheap a few years back (one came in smelling like a goddamn ashtray though, I can't get the smell out and I'm honestly thinking of tossing it because it disgusts me that it's still so disgusting after over 3 years of being in my possession)

and yeah perhaps I will but I care more about my sugar hearts than CTP and would be worried about getting lube on it, I really dislike washing my clothes often and if lube got on it then I'd HAVE to wash it and I feel like every time a garment gets washed no matter how gently it looks shittier and shittier and I start hallucinating signs of wear and -breathe- yeah

>>10563634
sorry, I'm a dumb slut. ur right

>>10563640
Ah fair enough

also I will happily take that pony bag off your hands for cheap, I don't mind having a go at deodorizing it.

and yeah I get you about sugar hearts, it definitely is rarer than CTP these days so I'd feel that way about it too, shame tho cause I feel like it would work nicely in a cam setting, which is kinda weird to say lol

>>10563640
sell me your icky pony camwhore-sama, i'll cherish him and clean him up and he can live a long happy life forever snuggling with his brethren on my plush altar

>>10563617
Is that you, cyan_eyed?

>>10563507
>your bust won't change too drastically with weight loss
DA but I'm in the process of losing some fat and this is my nightmare scenario, maybe genetics just always wanted me to be a bimbo.

>>10563646
>>10563647
I totally would but that would out me so sorry but no 3:

>>1056364
>looks her up
gross no I'm not a piece of human swiss cheese covered in permanent marker scribbles that looks like a hooker from a trailer park. Also my tits are way way waaay nicer. She looks like a sex worker, I don't really. at least I don't think so and my gimmick is sort of looking like an innocent babbychan who wouldn't ever be on a camsite.

>>10563646
>>10563647
if you're this gullible I've got a bridge to sell to you

>>10563651
It depends. Bust is the first thing I lose when I lose weight. That's not the case for everyone though.

>>10563622
If you suck up to her and she thinks you’re her friend she’ll give you stuff. Won’t say what I’ve gotten exactly so I don’t out myself but I know I’m not the only one who’s gotten dresses from her. She’s pretty boring but at least there’s something good about her being stupid.

>>10563654
At least show us a pic of your burando so the sweet lolitas get pissed

>>10563657
anon what the fuck? why would you post something like this? especially because she's probably going to see this, i don't want her to doubt that some of her friends are *actually* her friends.

pretending you're somebody's friend so you can get stuff is nasty. honestly why are lolitas such subhumans most of the time.

>>10563657
this is so sad and mean nonny why would you use someone like that

>>10563657
I've been her friend for a while and I hope this post does out you. I don't know how you live with yourself, especially knowing what she's going through. Honestly, drink bleach.

>>10563590
i feel like i've seen your trip named in another thread was it you?

>>10563657
why would you tell me this when I didn't even ask lmfao I hope she figures out who posted this and blocks you though.

>>10563665
Muh dead grandma muh depression muh daddy and mommy too strict. She needs to stop crying like a child and get over it. Everyone’s grandma dies.

>>10563661
Why are you defending her? What do you even like about her? She’s boring as fuck spending all her time on shitty arts and crafts and wiping up old people shit off the floor.

>>10563654
outing you would out me too and I don't want that cause I have over 5k followers on insta

if you change your mind, I dropped my email so lmk

>>10563676
what have you done tho, wanting my stinky pony bag isn't very milky

>>10563657

You're awful but for all the shocked anons how the fuck did you not see this coming, don't surprised pikachu me.

>>10563674
you realize posting her private venting only helps narrow you down, right?

>>10563674
imagine being this much of a disrespectful cunt, gawd at least all I do is be an attention whore/actual whore and call my partner Daddy

Excessive layering looks clunky and uncomfortable, and seeing excessively layered coords puts me off JSKs as a whole. I know it's silly to rule out so many gorgeous dresses based on seeing them styled badly, but it's a huge percentage of them that are getting very bad representation.

Also tea party shoes look very uncomfortable and seeing coords with them make me feel bad for the wearer.

>>10563681
Kinda agree about the excessive layering. I try to own more jsks than OPs because I feel like they're more versatile but in truth I really adore OPs.

TPS are actually really comfortable tho. Especially AP brand tps. Don't feel bad for us.

>>10563674
>why are you defending her
because, no matter who it is, pretending to be someone's friend just to get something you want is fucking disgusting? i'm not going to go into why/explain myself because i know she's a private person and i don't know what details she'd be okay with me sharing.

but it's pretty obvious she doesn't have a lot of people to lean on IRL, so shaming her for venting to somebody who she THOUGHT was her friend is just nasty. if i find out who you are i'm putting you on blast. honestly, die.

>>10563677
just saying, email me if you wanna get rid of the bag. I won't spill the beans about who you are.

>>10563679
If I thought she had enough braincells to put 2 + 2 together I might be worried.

>>10563684
Damn she must really have given you a lot for you to be sucking on her tits this hard.

>>10563681
They're only uncomfortable when they don't fit right/are the wrong size, just like any shoe.

What exactly is "excessive layering"? Admittedly I'm really sick of seeing sheer overskirts. I liked it on DDC but sticking multiples on every random sweet print is ugh

>>10563687
unlike you, i don't need to feign being a decent person in exchange for stuff. i value people way more than i value a fucking dress.

>>10563685
do you seriously believe a random tripfag camwhore has tons of rare coveted dresses and rare plush bags that she would "love" to give away only if it didn't out who she was? Is this your first day on the internet?

>>10563687
>>10563689
Imagine if she only had two friends and sugar baby anon didn't know that

>>10563689
So you did get free stuff?

>>10563689

Tbh it's easy to lie here so even if you didn't really care you look like the good guy now lol

>>10563690
do you really think someone would do that nonny, just go on the internet and tell lies?

everything I say is at least a half truth or inspired by a truth but I really do have a shitload of "coveted" AP sweet shit. Do you really not remember how cheap all this stuff was in 2016-2017? I literally went bankrupt like actually bankrupt bc of my sweet shopping addiction back then because I stopped camming for a while due to insecurity issues and BDD but didn't stop spending money. and the CAD conversion rate was/is shit

>>10563702
again, anyone that believes anything you say, I've got a bridge to sell, leave your email

>>10563720
>>10563690
You're both idioits

>>10563724
if you keep being nice to the tripfag maybe they'll give you 10k too anon. And a rare pony bag!!!

I actually have a lolita related confession

When I tried to an hero a few years ago, I was wearing wonder party. When I woke up in the psych ward I threw a huge fucking fit asking wtf happened to it and screeched at the nurse that that dress was worth more than his life and my life combined. I didn't calm down because they wouldn't tell me what happened to it and I eventually got restrained and given that sedative butt shot and it made me see double for a week, bad shit man. my jsk was fine and they gave it back when I was discharged

>>10563720
I'm actually really scared of bridges, no cap, I have to close my eyes when being driven over them (I don't know how to drive)

The only person I miss who used to post here is Chinese Gossip. At least her posts were funny and entertaining to me and she had a actual Chinese community and event info and gossip on feuds, trends etc. I wonder what happened to her?

>>10563731
>given that sedative butt shot
I hope they inspected your butthole also before you got the dress back?

>>10563548
no i’m not housewife-chan lmao

>>10563755
yes thankfully I passed the butthole inspection. Just barely. I've got a cheerio butthole. idk how to make it fruit loop sized even with copious usage of butt plugs. any tips?

>>10563590
And this surprised no one

>>10563801
Do I seem super Canadian??

>>10563769
Get your simps to buy you dragon dildos and do dilation shows. Big Butthole, more cash to stuff in it.

I kind of hate that Meta is basically the new fatty brand

I know I should be happy that fatty-chans have real brand they can support, and on some level I am, but for some reason I feel like the brand has cheapened somehow?

>>10563863
>Meta is basically the new fatty brand
when has it not been?

>>10563863
>new

meta's definitely not new at this but you certainly must be

>>10563864
>>10563863
I am really confused and thats sad to hear. Oldschool meta is the only thing that fits me well, everything else is too big. I don’t buy new things so have been out of the loop and was unaware they were making things for blob people
But its good to know so i’ll double check measurements and not freely buy anything by meta

>>10563863
Are fatties actually buying meta? Or are they too busy stuffing their face to put their money where their mouth is
>>10563871
This. A lot of old meta lacked shirring and was the about same size as old baby for comparison

>>10563863
>new
Before I took a seven year break from lolita Meta was THE only fatty brand lmfao

>>10563863
Fatties don't buy Meta though, they spend all their time on FB bitching that AP won't make OPs with 100+ cm busts.

>>10563863
I don't really care if meta cares for fats now, they'll still be my fave brand and what other people are wearing doesn't affect me, but god I'd hate to see what a meta tea party would look like kek

>>10563864
>>10563868
>>10563878
I’m talking about how they will now release pieces with like 160cm busts

>>10563880
>>10563875
Do they not? They must be for meta to keep releasing the larger size pieces, like it must be profitable for them

>>10563886
>160cm busts
I'm sorry what now?

>>10563886
In my experience, plus (US) lolitas don't wear Meta, they wear shitty custom taobao or western indie.

>>10563891
https://metamorphose.gr.jp/en/product/6147 Fully shirred blouse but I bet it'll look fucked up at max measurements desu

>>10563871
>Oldschool meta is the only thing that fits me well
>>10563875
>was the about same size as old baby for comparison
Those sizes still averaged about a 90 cm bust. That's the size of a US large. You're all just fatties with superiority complexes over bigger fatties.

>>10563897
Ok, my oldschool meta maxes out at about 84cm bust and 61cm waist so i don’t really care, or maybe they shrunk in the wash over the years who knows

>>10563899
Nta but I also have old meta from like late 90s that's about the size you're describing. Nowhere near a US large.

>>10563897
>90cm bust
>US size large
You sure about that bruh?

>>10563903
da but you don't think 35 in bust is in the large range?

>>10563904
Nta but you could have a 35 bust and like a 23 waist if you’re not asian and had giant tits i guess. I guess that would be considered large for lolita since nothing would fit that but its not exactly ‘fat’

>>10563907
>35 bust and like a 23 waist if you’re not asian and had giant tits
Scrote spotted

>>10563863
It's pathetic to let what other people wear affect what you want to do. It seems like the types of people who complain about fat people getting their own sizing are the same people who complain about them asking for larger sizes. I feel bad for overweight people in the community, no matter what they do they get shit on.

There are more creative ways to insult people other than their bodies, I'm getting bored of seeing the same salt about fat people over and over again.

>>10563909
I’m a woman but ok

>>10563916
I don't think lolitas will ever stop being salty about fatty chans. Being salty about fat people wearing the clothes is an integral part of lolita online culture at this point.

I can see where the other anon is coming from though. It's kind of like the hipster mentality of not liking mainstream shit but just a different incarnation of the sentiment. I'm glad lolita is, for the most part, gatekept by being so "impractical" and expensive to most people. And I'm somewhat glad that the online lolita community is sooooo fucking hostile and toxic, it really helps keep lolita obscure and scare new people away. Having BPD I don't have a very stable sense of self and it's really hard for me to fit in but it's also hard for me to feel unique, lolita makes me feel unique and special and makes me feel like I have some semblance of an actual identity. I used to be able to get that feeling solely by being a girl who played vidya/was internet savvy but that's not really a thing anymore ever since liking nerdy shit and being on the internet became mainstream bc everyone has it in their pockets all day. Sigh, I miss those days.

>inb4 ur pathetic
I am aware trust me nobody is meaner to me than myself

>>10563916
You're sweet anon but I think you're on the wrong fucking website.

>>10563970
It's not inherently pathetic to be apprehensive at the idea of your hobby being taken over by the mainstream. A lot of people have those concerns since society at large tends to water down niche things. (a side note referring to your other examples however - in my experience getting satisfaction from being "the only girl" in something dies out quick due to eventual misogyny/someone assuming I'm there for men's approval but different strokes I guess)

However, if toxicity is necessary, I wish it was centered on bad outfits than the bodies of the people wearing the fashion. Wishful thinking, I know.

>>10563897
hate to be the one to have to break this to you, but you can have big tits without actually being fat

>>10563916
It’s almost as if I’m using the thread for it’s intended purpose and otherwise keeping my thoughts to myself and not harassing anyone, but go off I guess lol

>>10563805
Most canadian lolitas are batshit crazy. It’s not your fault, your country is just America Lite (TM), complete with similar mental health care practices

>>10564016
that makes sense lol. I like Canada though, the whole legal weed thing is pretty dope. And desu there's not much in the means of helping someone with BPD besides 10+ years of weekly DBT and maybe some meds to try to tackle some of the symptoms. But personality disorders aren't chemical imbalances they're more similar to developmental disorders in how they affect the sufferers esp BPD because we have the emotional maturity of toddlers when things get intense. And then we're like impulsive teenagers the rest if the time. I kind of wish I had no idea about my bpd so I could continue to think I was Totally in the Right most of the time like before my diagnosis/learning about bpd, and not hate myself for being unable to control my emotions (including hating myself for attention whoring under a trip, I think I'm about done with this stunt because I'm too mad at myself for doing it).

>>10563909
>>10563907
this thread is making me feel weird lol. i have 35 b 25 w but my tits also aren't giant by any means? women of all people should know breast measurements are kind of a weird thing.

also brand fits fine, though i will admit stuff like cinema doll is tight on the chest. no boobloafing, just feels restrictive

>>10563995
sounds like cope

>>10564044
Cute

>>10563984
Yea, like all the itas on Facebook who insist they're not plus size, they just have really big boobs at a 120cm bust.

>>10564037
I have etc and some non shirring brand that’s tight on my 32inch bust.
I have more otome stuff than lolita so i just assumed it would be harder for gulls with larger breasts, but thats good you can still find stuff. And i forgot about shirring

>>10564025
it’s okay nonny i have bpd too and it’s hard to live with. just don’t out yourself or do things to hurt other people on purpose and work toward healing yourself. getting outed on cgl probably wouldn’t help your mental health

>>10563897
>tfw 90cm bust and 63cm waist
I want to neckrope. Please tell me this is bait

>>10564083
One google search shows that it’s bait anon, a US large is 97+cm

>>10564059
If they have a 120cm bust, then yeah, they would be considered plus sized both by US and Japanese standards. but the idea that a 90 cm bust or a US large is automatically fat is insane

>>10564037

i have a 30 inch bust, 25 inch waist (i know i'm a skinnyfat stick) and there's one mm piece that fits me in the waist but not the bust. i have no idea who this dress is designed for.

>>10564086
you sound like you're fat and in denial about it

Can the ana-chans itt calm down please.

i miss irl swapmeets specifically because it was fun to bully people into lower prices. It's easier when you flash a physical wad of cash. and a lot of lolitas i've met are total doormats in person, so they have trouble saying no lol

I've gained like 5kg in lockdown. My bmi is now at 21 and I feel like a fat fuck even though it's still normal.

I'm scared that people will think that I've let myself go the past year when meetups start again.

>>10564272
it's ok anon. this year has been deeply traumatic for most people, and a ton of people have gained weight in response. i have too, and have been dieting for the past several months. you have time before things start opening again, start dieting and exercising slowly now to form healthy habits so that you can do it in a healthy way and at your own pace, rather than cramming it all in later and potentially hurting yourself. but remember that a bmi of 21 is still normal and healthy, and while people may notice that you've gained weight, i doubt that anyone will think you've let yourself go or even actually look fat

>>10564272
I’ve been having trouble with this too anon

My advice, if/when you decide to start working out/dieting, would be to find an exercise you can do at home that you don’t mind doing! It helps me feel better about going over my daily calorie limit if I can get a little exercise in, even if it’s just a half hour or so. And since I do it at home I never really have an excuse not to do it.

>>10564272
I ended up gaining back 20lbs during the begin of quarantine but have lost 35 pounds again so far in quarantine
The feeling really sucks but I used that as motivation to help lose weight again so maybe you could do something like that i dunno

>>10564289
I dont think yoyoing like that is healthy

>>10564291
This is the first time I gained back weight I lost so I wanted to get rid of it as fast as possible D: currently I’m able to maintain my weight with 1-2 pound fluctuation

>>10564272
>>10564281
a "normal" bmi doesn't mean you arent fat lol. lose some weight

I wish lolitas could love themselves more

>>10564294
you don’t have to lash out at other people because you’re insecure about your own weight

>>10564294
it's ok to say you're jealous of normal people :)

I have a 95 cm bust and 69 cm waist and I feel like such a fat fuck in lolita

>>10564311
good. you should feel that way, because you are

>>10564312
Stop.

>>10564311
I've like a 75 bust and 65 waist. Be happy about your boobs anon I don't think you're fat you have just more body fat at the right places

>>10564314
nta but that was pretty obvious compliment fishing so I'm not surprised

>>10564312
booblets on suicide watch, a 90-95 cm bust means nothing in terms of fatness. for example, a 92cm bust can still be a band size of 32 or below. there are many small-to-average framed people with this bust size, sorry your chest is concave.

>>10564359
i was talking about your waist size fatty.

>>10564367
honestly that waist size isn't big as long as anon isn't like... 5'1.

>>10564367
learn how to read faggot

>>10564374
sorry your fat keep coping kek

>>10564371
>69 waist at 5 feet
Am....am I fat?

>>10564394
a-anon i was just throwing a height out there pls no be sad

i think objectively, that size of waist at that height can look a little thick. if your bust and hips balance it out it's less of an "issue". but i feel your pain, i'm 5'3 and built like a minifridge. people of less than average height can have it pretty rough when it comes to measurements

>>10564394
Probably. I’m 5’9 with a 69 cm waist and is considered pretty normal but I’m from Europe so idk

>>10564394
69cm/152.4cm=.452 waist-to-height ratio

wikipedia says .42-.48 is Healthy for women

breathe easy, anon

>>10564077
thank you, ur sweet and also ur right. picrel hugs

>>10564427
61cm/160cm=.381 waist-to-height ratio

am I too thin what does this mean for me, 61 cm is my waist measurement after I've eaten and am bloated. I haven't eaten yet today so it's under 58 cm.

>>10564394
cgl (and the adjacent farms) are the only place I’ve seen people treat sub 24” waists as the norm even for short people. It’s not.

I would post this in a feels thread, but since this is up instead it feels more like a confession.

I just spent half an hour looking through Lady Sloth's closet clean out, not as much looking at the dresses as much as trying to figure out her size. The measurements flip flops back and forth, and I'm sitting there trying to imagine how this woman's weight has fluctuated through her wardrobe's career...

I feel creepy as fuck. Please judge me.

>>10564431
I am convinced that most people here have no concept of how human bodies actually look and operate irl

>>10564294
Why is this thread so full of hangry anas? Shouldn't you be enjoying laxatives and trying to get tapeworms?

>>10564433
Why is that creepy. It’s public information on LM/lolibrary the sizes for stuff and what could you do with that info anyway. You didnt look up her address or phone number.

I’d be freaked out too if someone’s measurements kept changing. like is she ok?

>>10564430
Christ, stop humblebragging you attention whore

>>10564433
>>10564448
She could have thrown in some sample pieces and said they were from her personal closet. Does she post pictures online?

>>10564433
I kind of assumed that she's been buying a ton of pieces that may or may not fit because she's using them for inspiration in designing

>>10564447
I'm the same anon that was worried about having a tapeworm btw I think I should mention that. my health anxiety got the best of me and I went to my pcp and told her about my worries and got tested and I'm parasite-free. however I don't think other anons in this thread are fat, no bone rattling from me

>>10564449
I'm really insecure and all my self worth comes from external sources of validation because I loathe myself and don't think I deserve to be alive

>>10564445
lolitas always had fucked up body image but it was never this bad. i think Instagram and egirl waist shooping has made it worse, they think if you don’t look like this you’re a fridge

>>10564296
Me too :(

>>10564398
>>10564427
>>10564431
Thank you anons I think it's time I get offline from here for a bit, even the thought process made me feel so bad I was shocked at my own emotions

>>10564445
Absolutely this. /cgl/ as well as lolcow have a terribly warped perception of human bodies because they got eating disorders that they project on anyone

>>10564355 unfortunately I meant it quite literally. I wear older styles and a lot of skirts have a 66 cm waist and with my bust, and shoulders I'm never going to for ops and things are often too short on me too

>>10564454
If i wasn’t so scared of outing myself i would be your friend bpd chan. i understand these feelings entirely and it’s difficult but we will both get through it. you are worth more than you think you are and are cared about even if you don’t understand why

>>10564545
Americans think that because they're the forefront of popular culture, the normal body size is the casually overweight American one. As if Southeast, East, and South Asia doesn't exist, have billions MORE people than Americans, and are actually, truly, normal-sized people.

>>10564430
cringe etc

>>10564635
not sure if you want to be holding most asian cultures up as your gold standard for the ideal "normal" body when eating disorders and diet culture are so heavily ingrained and so many women are shamed in to losing unhealthy amounts of weight by friends and family

>>10564635
> southeast and south asia are full of starving third world countries
> the starving body look is normal sized

>>10564635
>tfw when you see tiktoks and reels of japanese girls trying to lose weight at 45 kg to get to 39 kg at 5'3
ok

>>10564642
>diet culture is heavily ingrained
>women are shamed into losing weight by friends and family
unironically how it should be

>>10564650
dense

follow a couple lolitas that have separate accounts solely to satisfy scrotes. anyone else?

>>10564642
Yeah theyre sooo unhealthy with their dieting which is why they live longer

Fat people are still depressed, theyre just depressed and fat

>>10564635
But no one here is talking about Americans as a whole, we’re talking about waist measurements. Even in the 50s the average woman was 5’2 with a 28” waist which most of cgl would consider fat.

>>10564657
the life expectancy isn't higher because of bingeing and then starving or things like diet pills, it's higher because of specific foods that are common like seaweed and fermented shit

>>10564660
Cgl is basically large size kids clothing anyway. Thats why it hardly works if you have a huge bust or something. Don’t pay any mind to people and just wear what makes you happy

>>10564650
>>10564657
okay that's enough with the bone rattling please see yourselves out

>>10564660
wait did the average lady seriously have a size 3 foot in th 1950s? that would be too small for like brand size S even wouldn't it? I'm not tall and I've never been fat and I wear 24.5, have foot sizes increased globally and what is fueling this phenomenon?

>>10564672
UK size 3

>>10564672
People are taller now

>10564612
>you are worth more than you think you are and are cared about even if you don’t understand why
I hadn't seen this (you). thank you anon, this is so kind. I wish we could be friends too.

>>10564675
>>10564677
okay, thanks, makes more sense than my train of thought

>>10564612
>you are worth more than you think you are and are cared about even if you don’t understand why
I hadn't seen this (you). thank you anon, this is so kind. I wish we could be friends too.

>>10564675
>>10564677
okay, thanks, makes more sense than my train of thought

>>10563665
>>10563674
Wait wait wait, this got totally off track. So if you both know her, is she HWC?

>>10564751
In the time I’ve known her I highly doubt it. The milkiest thing I’ve seen her do outside of posting here is have an actual crazy person tier mental breakdown over her grandma dying a few weeks ago. She acts like it’s a big deal. Everyone experiences the death of their grandma, it’s stupid to act like a child about it but worth it to listen to it and her asinine bullshit about her shitty resin crafts for the brand.

>>10564763
Idk who this is but just because everyone experiences the death of their grandma doesn’t mean it isn’t very sad for most people.

>>10564767
Most people don’t go crazy over their grandma dying. And most people have to go on with their lives and don’t get to stay in bed crying about it for weeks.

>>10564782
What's it like being a heartless bitch?

>>10564782

I didn't but I really wish I did, I'll always resent my job where my boss tried to ring me for taking one day off to visit my grandmother when she got her lung cancer diagnosis. Good on her for being able to grieve fully.

>>10564801

>Ding

I hate phoneposting

>>10564650
This, but it should be the same for men.

>>10564763
tinfoil but i want to believe it's her hateposting about herself, because i really doubt someone who's motivation is "the brand" would air her dirty laundry like this

>>10564782
I did

>>10564782
you're really making fun of someone for being sad their grandma died? Do you realize how crazy YOU sound???

>>10564656
More details pls

I think I have good body proportions for lolita since all my far is on my hips. I have a 76 bust and a 63 waist but 105 hips which is super unproportionate in my opinion but at the same time it hides perfectly under a Petticoat and my legs still look slim in knee-length dresses.

I really found the perfect clothes for my weird body

>>10564915
holy shit girl u thicc. that's dope af.

>>10564915
There are really people with that kind of proportions?
Tbh that sounds great for lolita but also kind of cool as a body type if you've a cute face to go along with it

>>10564915
true pear

>>10564915
noice, but aren't tights difficult to fit over your hips? you could always just stick to socks and/or alter tights to be otks

>>10563507
This depends on your body type. I always lose my breasts first even though if it's only like 4kg some comes of off my breasts.

>>10564915
Nature gave you your own petticoat

>>10564925
I stick to OTKS and wear jeans shorts over tights so the don't slip down while walking. I skip on brand tights though for obvious reason

>>10564782
cunt

>>10564915
Why tf is cgl ok with this body and not with a normal and healthy body?

>>10564936
Her body is normal and healthy you dolt.

>>10564936
Most of the time people here are ok with ana bodies wdym

>>10564925

My hips are about that size and brand tights still fit fine (I'm bigger than >>10564915 though). There's the height factor, I'm below 160cm and that seems more important than hip size. Though the print is pretty distorted above the knees, if that's what you mean.

>>10564938
my guess is that if someone with less big hips and like a waist size +2 cm bigger posted their measurements, they'd get called fat. listening to /cgl/ about anything body related is an obvious crapshoot

>>10564915
Ngl I wanna know what this looks like, it sounds kind of insane

>>10564915
Same. My measurements aren't as extreme but it feels good

>>10564961
Look up .60 hip to waist ratio

>>10564950
yeah I've been called fat on here before because I have a 72cm waist. if that's fat I might as well die cause I only weigh 120lbs at 5'7". gulls are fucking stupid about body sizes, half of us are delusional anachans or fatties so none of us have any clue what's "normal"

>>10564982
They’d say you’re okay with that waist measurement because you’re tall

>>10564994
yeah I've gotten that one too but usually its "just stop eating burgers fatty". like a 28" waist is a fuckin landwhale...delusional.

>>10564995
Big part of it is also applying the (not real) measurements of and shooped pictures of asian idols and such to non asians, who are just naturally going to have larger frames in most cases even without necessarily being fat.
and this is coming from someone who by cgl standards WOULD still be considered a fatty at 5'8 and a 84 cm waist, even if the average person wouldn't consider me fat, and i can find pieces that fit me without too much trouble. i'm not too bothered by my weight or measurements, and generally assume that most people here dial things up to relieve stress by starting fights

I just ordered a cornet op!!! Excited and happy.
I want to go super old-school, where it was almost like punk and lolita.
I will not post my outfits in cof or whatever. Except maybe the kei group.
But if you see me in public i hope you can appreciate me for trying at least . I will probably look like a drunk person from harajuku, but as long as i have fun

>>10565040
you're already trying too hard

>>10565040
RIP cornet op

>>10565050
Ok i’ll bite, how am i trying too hard if i’m not posting on cof. I didnt even say what i’ll wear it with

>>10565051
Oh shush its not like you or anyone else was going to buy it and give it a home where someone likes it

>>10565056
are you like 16?

>>10565057
No I’m between 23 and 30. Honestly you’re the one with a weird tripname so you tell me.
I honestly don’t know whats so weird about me wanting to try something out

>>10565058
you type like an ita high schooler. have fun with your OP. you're getting blasted for the way you're coming across moreso than anything else. you know it's bad when a tripfag called bpdcamwhorechan can see it.

>>10565061
You're far more cringe than any excited newbie could be, just fuck off.

>>10565061
yeah that actually makes sense. Cuz i frequently get blasted or seem to trigger other gulls. even though i cant tell what was actually wrong with anythin i said lol.
Well i’m not sure how to come off better but i’ll take it into account. Maybe i’ll lurk more.
>when u lurked since 2011 and just now pull the trigger to buy something

>>10565066
uwu

>>10565067
no one cares

>>10565113
You cared enough to comment lol

>>10565040
>>10565058
could this actually be not bait?embarrassing.
what are you even trying to hide by hiding your exact age

>>10563325
My confession is that as a Sweet lolita I can’t really relate or mingle with Classic or Gothic lolitas. I feel like we don’t like the same things about this fashion and most of the time there is little overlap in interests outside of lolita as well. Sometimes I wish we could start things like „Sweet Lolita Comms“, but that’s hard to do within an already niche hobby.

>>10565129

As a classic lolita I agree. The most annoying part is when sweet lolitas try to shove themselves into a discussion about classic lolita and have absolutely no fucking clue what they're talking about. I've never done this myself to sweet lolitas because I'll just nod along with any discussion but anytime a sweet lolita is like "oh this classic dress-" I'll time out because I know the dress isn't fucking classic.

>>10565134
Yeah, I agree. The classic lolitas in my comm always talk about their loliable thrift shop finds, classic tea rooms or vintage accessories and I just can’t relate.

>>10565129
99% of my comm are sweet I don't know why I ever bothered to go.

>>10565129
as a sweetfag, same. like, in turn i would hope gothics/classics could make their own comms or discords or whatever. it's not because i don't like them or don't want to talk to them at all (i think the substyles are cool, just not my taste), i'm just sure they care about me sperging over every ap drop as much as i care about victorian maiden/moitie/anything that isn't ap

in the groups i'm in, i feel bad for the token classic because i know she's left out but i just can't into it

>>10565135
Why isn't classic lolita not as popular? I feel like there are alot of people who would really be into it just that they don't know it exists, same with gothic.

>>10565143
It’s just boring and not really anything you couldn’t accomplish with vintage clothing.

>>10565135

I'd like to be in your comm. The lolitas in my comm talk about being too fat for lolita and meme taobao prints. Maybe we can trade.

>>10565129
most lolitas in japan are brand loyal first, not style loyal anyway. a few people crossover and wear sweet/classic or classic/gothic, but IME japanese lolitas stick to following one or two brands and western lolitas try to create one unified lolita community.

I think this fashion is becoming more of a problem than anything else for me. I don't have a shopping addiction (inb4 that's what someone with a shopping addiction would say, I have savings and won't go over a certain monthly budget for jfash) but lately the market has been so dry I get the impulse to buy anything I like instantly because I get this insane fear I'll never get to see it again otherwise, it's getting too overwhelming for me. I don't even like popular styles/prints ffs

>>10565172
I definitely agree. I have impulse bought because “it’s insert-discontinued-brand and what if i never see it again and nothing else i remotely like has popped up recently” and then i realize...when tf would i wear it... what tf do i wear it with...
I think something needs to change, brands are shells of their old selves. nothing great and amazing has come out recently. Some pretty nice things yes, but none of them i’m interested in.
I’m probably just gonna stop looking for stuff after my current buys come in and i get enough staples. and then focus on socks and easier things to find cute versions of. Maybe get into usakumyas and making cute clothes for those, who knows.

>>10565144
Spoken like a true sweetfag who knows nothing about classic lolita or vintage fashion

>>10565181
It’s the truth. Cope harder over your dying substyle.

>>10565182

Cope harder over your substyle being taken over by taobao tier plastic trash.

>>10565181
>>10565182
>>10565195
arguing just because you wear different substyles is immensely low IQ. we get it, classicfags have a dry af secondhand market (albeit cute new releases), sweetfags have shitty new releases AND a ruthless secondhand market, and gothicfags (moitiefags?) are overall fucked rn but boz and atepie are cute

we're all suffering in our own special snowflake ways

>>10565240
I love AtePie and living the time of my sorry to everyone else but I'm built different.

>>10565172
same anon. like, at least a year ago i could think about a purchase for 2 whole minutes. but now if i take that time, it's gone and i probably won't see it again for a long time.

the chase is tiresome, and it makes me wish i had irl lolita friends so we could share pieces with each other that we've always wanted to wear or something. like, knowing i'll never get to wear milky-chan or even just try it on because i was born at the wrong time just makes me sad.

>>10565247
I think you'll get to wear milky-chan nonny. I feel a rerelease in my bones. same goes for milky planet.

>>10565143
Sweet is the most popular because there's nothing like it in the west while gothic and classic girls are more likely to just hang out with western goths and vintage fashion communities.

>>10565250
agreed

>>10565247
ayrt, I feel you in my bones. I'm afraid I'll never get to wear so many of my dream prints and hate how I had to see them pass me by when they were easily available just because I didn't have the means to get them, it just plain sucks. I wish you good luck with milky-chan, anon!

>>10564025
Someone in another thread mentioned that they really want a 420 friendly lolita tea party... Can you imagine!? It would be either great or terrible and now that they've said it I want to go to one too (fellow degenerate Canadian here)

i'm a chubby-chan and the meer knowledge that i make some lolitas angry about being fat and altering their dream dresses fills me with untold glee

>>10565143
>it just that they don't know it exists
There it is.

>>10565328
Sf lolitas have done it before. It's tacky and gross t b h

>>10565333
Enjoy yeast in your folds, and godspeed.

I find myself so nostalgic for the good old days that sometimes I even miss Tiferet.

>>10565353
I’m just chubby, not unwashed lmao dw

>>10565240
I like all 3 of these substyles and I'm always deeply puzzled on what side to take in the argument. They're all correct

>>10565354
i 100% miss tiferet and that *kind* of drama / bullshit in general.

>>10565354
I'm not this much of an oldfag I guess. what sort of drama was associated with tiferet?

>>10565437
Are you Barcode Bangs

>>10565453
lmao I wouldn't be surprised

>>10565437
tiferet was the one who frankenstein'd two cats tea parties together and showed up to an AP tea party in it, i think.

i'm pretty young and i ran into her my first time going into an AP storefront as a teen. she wouldn't stop talking to me and my mom even though we were strangers and clearly disinterested, and my mom was like "is this what everyone in your community is like"

>>10565453
I have blunt bangs like 80%+ of the lolita community, idk who barcode bangs is.

>>10565460
oh no I'm sorry you and your poor mother were accosted by such a raging autist irl

>>10565461
>idk who barcode bangs is.
nvm I think I figured it out, is it the sparkle puke self harming ita? I don't do shit like that and I'd like to say I'm at the very least marginally better dressed.

>>10565460

>>10565465
So you aren’t in SOL?

>>10565530
>SOL
south onatario? no, I'm not part of any comm and I live in the maritimes.

>>10565551
Did you decide to not join your local comm?

>>10565553
I think I'm going to keep being a lonelita for now. I'm entirely too distractable for zoom meets and I don't want to do anything in person anytime soon.

>>10563731
please just make a livejournal or a twitter holy shit

I'm not looking forward to the jelly candy toys release because I know I'll want a full set and the socks will be nearly impossible to get. they're so cute. and I hope the cute blouse is in a separate release from the print because I want that too. none of the other spring prints besides mmb interest me this year.

>>10565565
uwu

sometimes i make my bf wear the separate aprons from my dresses while we have sex. it's really cute. don't worry i'll never sell them so you don't have to worry about buying an apron covered in boysweat

>>10565590
so.. what body type is he? asking for a friend.

I have a crush on a lolita i only know online. We're not that close but every time she uploads a photo of herself, it kills me. She's so cool and pretty

>>10565595
he's like tall, pale, and skinny with a pretty (yet handsome? like delicate) face and long hair. i love him and he looks mad cute in them hehe

>>10565598
Same anon, let’s suffer together.
>Tfw no sweet lolita gf

>>10565600

Man you sound cute together. Hope you're always having wholesome sex in lolita aprons.

I miss the times when newbies would get directed to Bodyline. I just hate the taobao look and I can't put my finger on why

>>10565598
What sub style anon?

>>10565551
You’re already a million times better off than anyone in a comm up there

>>10565618
She wears mostly old school

>>10565352
What happened, spill the deets pls

It wasn't something really toned down, like just a regular adults-only tea party but with infused treats?

>>10563325
I've spent at least 30,000$ on burando over the last five years to build a large, consistent wardrobe. During the pandemic I came to my senses, I'm a lonelita in a normie job and I'm never going to wear all of it, and have been selling it all off gradually, except for a couple of pieces that I really love. I'm surprised at how well Lolita held its value, gulls! I've taken a loss on some things, but not significant enough to complain about I'm glad they sold at all, and some pieces have made me a steep profit - bought an OP for 65$ in 2017, sold it for 270 last month. I've recouped my 30,000$ and then some, and with the profits I've replenished my wardrobe with high quality normie brands from the thriftstore and mercari. If you're not feeling it anymore and could really use the money for other things, I'd advise selling part or even the majority of your wardrobe. If you'd regret it, don't.

>>10563420
How much do you eat? A lot of people on benefits are overfat, if they'd just fast to a normal weight they could spend what they didn't spend on junkfood on clothes.

>>10563598
>a degenerate, unwashed vegan sweetfag with bpd
This is what hell is like.

>>10564644
No one's starving anymore, drag your mind out of the 19th century colonial mindset for a minute. India and Indonesia are full of skinny fats and smol fats and even midfats with the beetus.

>>10565143
Classic doesn't attract people who wear their kinks and mental illnesses on their sleeves.

>>10565328
I'd rather die. Weed smells like catpiss, imagine having to get that smell out of your frills.

>>10565632
No it was at some weed lounge place.

>>10565662
>what are edibles

>>10565437
She was preachy and bitchy about stuff like only wearing real pearls and lace, a huge snob talking down to people everywhere all the time, and everyone thought she must be an apex lolita goddess. Then her pics came out and she's a squat goblin in horizontally black and white striped socks, orthopedic shoes, she can't dress for shit, looks unwashed, and she's like mid fifties and makes her mom, who's in her eighties, buy her brand that doesn't fit. But at least she's not a scrote.

>>10565662
Weed doesnt stick to clothing, and you can have it in ways where it doenst stick.

Enjoy the death!

>>10565662
Weed smells like herbs, because it is a plant

>>10565662
>Too much of a pussy to microdose with edibles
Stay boring anon!

>>10565662
How about a boozy brunch? Does that sound more appealing or nah

>>10565664
That makes sense, doesn't seem very #aesthetic though. I also realized people probably wouldn't want smoke getting into their clothes, especially if it's brand... So edibles seem like the way to go

I'm the anon both of these posts replied to, come on y'all weed is still a personal choice, no need to get high handled regardless of whether you don't partake or you do

>>10565684
*high handed dammit

Since this is the confessions thread, I saw this fabric and if I had any ounce of sewing ability or the big enough balls to wear it in public I'd totally make an ironic weedlita coord

>>10565672
nayrt. having been a dude weed lmao person myself and recently coming off it 'cuz i just don't want it anymore, it's kind of embarrassing when people imply that people who don't want to partake are boring lol. there's more to life than bud and you can be a perfectly happy, fun person without it friend

>>10565623
That’s sweet anon! I would ask who it is but we all know how gulls would react

>>10565668
>>10565670
It smells like shit and you know it. Just eat it.

>>10565668
Are you kidding? Weed smoke/smell will absolutely stick to clothes. I partake myself, but I find it so annoying when people try to say the smell doesn’t linger. I only smoke outside or take edibles for that reason. I don’t let anyone smoke in my house or my car either.