/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10556120
I usually dislike most chocolate prints, but the goddamn bears of Bear's Chocolaterie won me over. I did used to like Melty Chocolate until I saw it in person. I do love Melty Ribbon Chocolate, but that's not really a print.

>>10556120
Samefag, but I'm also really upset that these are Shibuya only.

>>10556125
I don't even want the bear bags and I find it really weird and kind of dumb that both of them are store exclusive... to the same store. At least make one that's available to everyone?

I did'nt like the print in this new release of AP it feels like it was following amateur trends in fabric desing, this fall/winter season my eyes goes to ETC and QPOT chocolate pieces specially the solid ones that had thicker fabric, I usually had my most and least favourite year by year, but the love of my life is the sweet cream house print

I'm interested to see if we get a print next week...usually they're released every other week, but there were only 5 in the fashion show lineup and we've already gotten 2. I know there was technically a 6th print, but Whip Cream Princess was an MTO and they took the reservations back in December.

>>10556125
I’m hoping it randomly shows up at AP paris at some point. They usually get all store limited stuff, don’t they?

>>10556129

What is up with retarded posts like this by newfags lately?

>>10556251
Right?? There was some idiot answering questions wrongly in the stupid questions thread that sounded exactly like this person. I think they’re samefagging

Wait, did Moco Moco bunny come in mint? Did I miss that train? Was it a store exclusive? I could’ve sworn it did not come in that color but I’m seeing ones for sale

>>10556283
Nevermind, I just found the answer

>>10556128
Welcome to ap, where all the good shit stays in Japan

I'm salty, give me dresses with full-back shirring AP.... I'm too fat for bears chocolate and moco moco :(

>>10556120
Okay, not to mess with Bear Chocolatier purses, these are actually cute and work well with the print. But it's such a shame they keep giving British Bear various makeovers instead of making some more coveted stuff, especially pony bags. These seem to be becoming the new it piece with all the hype.

hahahahahAHAHAHA the site already fucking crashed

site immediately crashed wow

>>10556367
The add to cart button didn't even go live. It's gonna be just like last time. Ugh.

>>10556369
this is why I finished work early lol

>>10556370
Same

>>10556370
I have nothing to do today and I'm still pissed.
It was gonna be bad just with the dresses and socks, why did they have to combine releases and include all the other accessories too? AP USA is completely braindead.

>>10556374
I feel like we're gonna be here for 3+ hours

I got the ears in my car before it crashed

>>10556377
This sounds so menacing without the letter t

>>10556377
how did u even get that far

man i just want some SOCKS

>>10556375
I was just thinking the same thing.
The site was already slow 15-20 minutes before release. And then it crashed immediately. Last time there was at least a lag. Whoever is using bots probably has one set up for every one of the 20+ items in this release, crippling the site.
To be honest, I don't even know how the site "works" again after this. Is it just because people leave and stop refreshing? Does AP USA actually do something to help?

I'm starting to feel like wanting a full set is going to fuck me over but fuck it I'm gonna try to get a full set

>>10556377
The add to cart buttons weren't live.

>>10556380
I think it's because enough people get bored, but you're right, there's probably an assload of bots gumming up the works for every single item.

>>10556380
yeah i do think it's because people quit trying

ap could literally just upscale their ability to accept traffic on release days for a couple bucks and then downscale back to normal on non-release days... but unless someone at AP USA asks AP JP (which they probably won't) is never gonna happen

>>10556386
I've been watching a lot of Survivor recently, and this is like the final challenge that's always endurance based. AP has now resorted to making us out-wait each other to trim down the competition.

>>10556382
It was for the ears. What can I say? I was reloading over and over, the button popped up, I hit add to cart, and I saw the cart and then it crashed

>>10556388
Crazy thought: It's gonna get to the point where these crashes last indefinitely. Like 24+ hours. If it's really bots and traffic, the demand is just gonna keep growing.

Fucking bots. I wish there was a way they could block them

AP USA made a post on their Instagram saying the site was down.

We're absolutely fucked.

Wishing the best to you gulls in the bloodbath. RIP.

>>10556397
FB too

>>10556401
Has AP US ever said this during a release before? This is the first time I've seen them make any kind of "statement."

Seriously wondering what they are even doing.

>>10556402
This is the first I've seen. This must be REALLY bad for them to make multiple posts.

>>10556404
It's so lazy... They KNOW we're all here waiting, refreshing... because this is release day/time. I know they can't realistically give us an ETA, but I wish they could. We're all just glued to the internet until then.

Also I could see them calling off the release when they fail to find a solution in like 3-4 hours.

>>10556402
iirc they made a status like this during Little Witch.

>>10556408
Do you remember how long it took for them to get the site back up on that one? I skipped that release

I saw the site for like 2 seconds just now and my heart skipped a beat. AP US isn't even telling the truth - they didn't take the site down. They're just waiting for traffic to die down.

>>10556408
they didn't, but little witch took multiple hours

>minutes
Right

>>10556409
it took hours

>2016
>casually buys magic princess on fuckin sale
>2021
>tries to buy socks for 2 hours

I'm quitting lolita.

>>10556410
Yeah me too

>>10556418
Good, less traffic on the website

Well screw this, I’m out. I’d rather pay an extra $25 to a scalper then waste three hours of my life staring at that little fucking drawing

>>10556420
If you didn't notice, it's the bots that are crashing the site, not one sad lolita.

wow I saw the add to cart button for a split second and it crashed again. I just want to know if the socks are all sold out.

Got the ring, necklace, and OTKs!! Keep refreshing gulls!!

If they just made a captcha so people couldn’t use bots this wouldn’t happen

>>10556430
I’ve got them in my cart and I clicked to buy and then it crashed. Sad

Fuck, finally got to my cart and everything was pulled out by fucking bots

>>10556432
I keep having to re-add the same thing to my cart because it doesn't save between crashes

What I wanted sold. Time to buy from a scalper

>>10556434
Mine saved between crashes because I’m logged into my account, and I had all the items in my account and then I would get to the part where it asks about shipping and then it would crash. I finally got to it now and everything’s gone out of my cart and the items are sold out. The yellow socks and the necklace and the pink ears

wow I got nothing.

I was at the last page before the purchase would have went through and the socks sold.

>>10556437
I was logged in the whole time too. When I refreshed the cart page/checkout page after adding my one item, it said I "didn't have access", so I had to go all the way back every time and add back the one item I wanted. It sold out before I could buy it.

Meh, hopefully it wont be this bad for the bear release in 2 weeks. The bunnys looked a little too babyish anyways.

I got the OP, ears, and the sleeping rabbit plush bag I wanted. Yay!

Meanwhile all the JSKs and OPs are just sitting there, unbought.

AP is never going to be smart enough to realize that we just want the accessories,

The ring is still listed under the accessories page but not the Moco page if anyone wants it!

how did you all buy the damn socks in less than a minute fuck. i got the headbow and bunny necklace.

>>10556449
Bots

Does anyone know if the tea cup got added or just sold out?

I'm really salty. It seems like the large majority of us got nothing. Including the people who were shooting for only one item. I think bots were a huge problem this time.

At 1:09 PST AP USA posted the site was back up. That was like five minutes ago and basically everything was sold before then (I wasn't counting on them anyways, but fuck them for pretending like anyone could even buy anything).

I can't even find a scalper to buy the socks from. They were nonexistent in Japan. I haven't seen any listings (besides a reserved one).

I wish I liked any of the actual dresses AP was releasing because they are 10x easier to get than the accessories now.

I bought a set of the bunny tag jewelry because I already had my card out but I really wanted the socks and the yellow bunny necklace. Why am I like this

>>10556453
It sold out

>>10556454
i think y'all are overestimating the prevalence of bots, personally.

my friends and i were all communicating while we were shopping--we were dedicated to refreshing the page for the past hour and inbetween the site going down, we all managed to get what we wanted.

it's not an ideal situation at all, but i know firsthand a good chunk of that stock went to humans.

>>10556453
I tried but it sold out so quick.

>>10556453
I don’t think I got added. Before the add to cart buttons went live I was on the page and the item pages were all there and I didn’t see it

>>10556457
>inb4

We are the bots

>>10556460
the teacups were listed at least 10 minutes before the release time (with no shopping cart button ofc). i saw it, just didn't want it

>>10556457
I refresh constantly but once it gets to the cart you can’t refresh your credit card over and over and over

>>10556457
It's all luck. I refreshed constantly too. Last release I was able to add multiple items to my cart and checkout. This time the crashing was even worse, and I couldn't get two consecutive pages to load.

tfw no socks I am absolutely SEETHING

>>10556462
Ah, my mistake then

>>10556461
i mean, we kind of are. the thing about a shopping bot is that it'll still have overhead like the page going down, navigating between pages, clicking the buttons, filling out info... it'll be faster than average, but on the whole a bot isn't a guarantee because of the high traffic that we're causing. just two cents from yet another programmer.

i don't mind bots being a bogeyman though 'cuz it's kind of funny.

>>10556463
really? that's odd, i got stuck in every step of the process (even after entering my cc information) but just had to press confirm to "resubmit the form." as far as i can tell i haven't been charged for 50 pairs of socks (yet)

>>10556465
>mfw me sitting in my comfy Lolita bunker with my socks in pink, sax, and ears in pink.

Truly revenge when I couldn't get a single pair of socks during Little Witch.

Feels good man

>>10556444
the cutsew OPs sold pretty quick

I'm just mad that the skirt sold out instantly. That's what I wanted the most. I thought I'd have a better chance since everyone was going after the socks and the ears, but the blue skirt sold out BEFORE the socks and ears. And because the website was so fucked, even when I had the pink skirt in my cart, I couldn't check out before that sold out too. Didn't get the blouse in pink either.

>>10556469
nta but I'm >>10556441 and even though I was logged in and everything, every time I would refresh the checkout page it said I "didn't have access" to that page. I had to go back and re-add the same item to my cart. It was just one item in my cart. I don't know what I was doing wrong because the item was still in stock, and I've been doing AP bloodbaths for awhile. It sucked because in the end I didn't get it.

>>10556454
I was able to get the cutsew OP and the ears I wanted, as well as a plush bag, but the socks sold out before I could snag any.

I just got the necklace because it randomly popped up again. Keep checking gulls!

>>10556470
I'm jealous. My SS got me the white pair even though my top choices were sax and pink.
I couldn't get pink or sax this time either. The pink sold before I could get it in my cart and the sax got pulled out of my cart at the last moment. I'm kinda hoping the socks are super thin and cheap so I don't have to be disappointed about not getting the other colors.

>>10556470
Happy for you anon! One day we'll all get the socks we want.

The lavender bunny tag necklace and brooch are sitting under the accessories category but not the mocomoco category.

>>10556479
they are quite thin, if it helps!

>>10556483
Makes me feel a little better.
Girly Sticker socks were pretty nice and thick in my opinion. But others have been so thin that you can see the other side of the sock through it. I'm scared to wear those for fear of them falling apart.

Wondering how many people will get thier orders cancelled due to AP US always overselling.

>>10556568
I've stopped bothering with the US site altogether. Insanely low stock, website constantly crashing on release days, and even if you manage to checkout there's a change you still won't get it.

What time does AP paris upload releases?

>>10556623
I've never wanted to post an eye roll emoji so much

>>10556502
Can confirm, I was super impressed with girly sticker. Moco moco is the same thin style as sweetie chandelier and the cat ones they released this past season. Girly sticker is more like the cdc socks but a tad less thick.

>>10556568
Ap USA sucks ass. Honestly. Their estimated sales are around 7.9 million a year and they can’t upgrade their fucking site? Indie brands have better websites with server scaling. Most embarrassing.

>>10556615
I just perused through my orders. In the last year I’ve had 3 of four orders edited after checkout due to lack of stock. Incredibly annoying. I’d literally rather get scalped cause at least then I know I actually get my item jeez.

Various iterations of this conversation pop up a lot, but I truly do not understand why AP won't increase their production runs. Yeah, "exclusivity," but based on how fast everything sells out they could make more stock and still have that.

>>10556568
They updated my order saying that they have to ship from jpn because they have no stock in the US? glad it's not a cancelation but annoying

>>10556627
Honestly, I just pay scalpers at this point. I always said I'd never buy from them and I feel kind of shit for caving, but AP makes it impossible to support them with new releases.

>>10556629
Running a zero waste model with total sell out is the best for business. It’s clear they calculate it, and sometimes they miscalculate. Just look at the melody toys, and Halloween treats release. No brand purposely releases stuff for the sale rack. It’s clear they don’t always nail their demand calculations, but at the same time it’s probably better to air on the side of under production and then do a re-release like they did with icp.

>>10556634
Not Halloween treats , little witch

>>10556634
>air
Lmao

>>10556637
I’m a phonefag

>>10556633
Honestly the Japanese ones aren’t even that expensive, I’d pay a $50 premium to not deal with the website disasters and losing out on items. I’m pretty sure lm scalpers are like the third middle man.

>>10556411
they did post about it during LW, but just like today they deleted their posts about the site being down. they've already deleted the posts on FB & IG about today's crash

>>10556652
How professional

>>10556671
This is all really souring my view on ap
At least there is btssb who doesnt seem to pull this stupid shit

Not much sold out this week

>>10556626
Oh god. Now I'm 100% okay with not getting the sax and pink pairs. I have the Sweetie Chandelier socks and I was surprised they are so thin and crappy. I really don't like them. That's actually the exact pair I was thinking about when I was comparing thin vs thick socks.

>>10556690
Haha I legit thought it might be too obscure of a reference point so I’m glad it helped!

>>10556634
The thing for me is it's starting to be a pattern that the main pieces/dresses never completely sell out. Having a dress not sell is a bigger issue than a pair of socks or resin jewelry not sell. They'll miss more profit if the dress didn't sell than the accessory. I find it really, really hard to believe that AP couldn't afford to give us more sock stock for releases, especially print socks, which have proven over and over again to be one of the hardest items to obtain in a new release.

At this point I really do think AP's business people are out of touch. I think they barely attempt to understand the market and are needlessly stubborn/resistant to change. I think it's easier for them to just change nothing and weather the criticism.

>>10556699
Yeah, this. So they don't want to make more dresses, I think most of us are willing to live with that. It's the low stock of accessories that really pisses us off.

>>10556690
>>10556698
Dumb question maybe but is there an easy way to tell if AP socks are going to be the thin kind when looking at the stock photos? Some anons mentioned seeing the pattern through the other side of the fabric but when I look at light colorway photos they all seem to be like that.

>>10556698
No, that was definitely helpful! I think I have like 60-ish pairs of AP socks, so reference points are great. Thank you, anon.

When will AP apply points from my order? I’m close to 90

>>10556735
Paris and SF you can apply them in increments of 30. The JP website lets you use them whenever you want.

>>10556735
I think pending points are added once they ship your order.

>>10556735
If you're asking about AP USA, you have to manually apply them during checkout. There is a little box you must check before putting in your payment info.

Came across this image on Fril and got so nostalgic. An OP, 2 JSKs, 2 skirts, a headbow and a barrette, 2 types of OTKs...AP really used to be a different kind of magic.

I know these fancy dresses are made for the Chinese market but even on weibo I rarely see these dresses worn. They must be selling or else AP wouldn’t waste their time making them.

>>10556827
There also was one fantastic dolly cardigan, a bunch of novelty items and some fantastic dolly adjacent casual cutsew OPs and cutsews. I miss that era so much.

>>10556844
I would buy this dress if they released it in a more accessible market to westerners, but even for the anniversary all they gave SF was that ugly premium dress.

>>10556846
There were wallets too! I can't remember the last time AP released a printed wallet, they're all solid now.

>>10556708
>>10556699
I really wanted that country gingham jsk recently and it sold out immediately while ugly ass girly sticker languishes forever

Every cute release sells out fast af. That hydrangea print was a bloodbath and it never even comes up secondhand

>>10556844
They wear them for photoshoots or brand tea parties

>>10556699
Does anyone know how many accessories they produce? like, would there be a complete set of acc for every dress they make? sorry I'm ESLing really hard right now

>>10556932

I don’t think the exact number can ever be known. It feels like they make half as many socks as needed, but usually enough hair accessories.
For things like wallets I feel like they made extras (or they would just sit around for a while)
But frankly seeing as OTKs and KCs are always on second hand sites NWT for profit, people are probably just buying to scalp.

>inb4 show proof dumbass

I don’t have proof, just speculating

Re-posting my edit from before because it feels tangentially relevant now. Although, remember how some gull said it takes like a half of year since the concept to actual release. They introduced Topping Heart last years summer, and it was like the first step in that direction. Maybe it will just take quite a while to meet the current demand.

>>10556932
>>10556952
I think the issue, even if they do produce a pair of socks per dress, is that it's so common to buy multiple pairs of socks, etc per dress colorway you might buy. So you might buy both the matching colorway and 1-2 contrasting colorways; if they produce 1:1 on colorway sets, that means 1 less for someone else's matching socks, and so on.

Given this kind of buying is common knowledge among lolitas, you'd think they would overproduce on those items, but it's hard to say if they do and it's still not enough, or what.

>>10556965

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, socks and other accessories should always have a MTO style sale.
They make nothing having scalpers sell for 3x markup, but they would make $$$ letting us buy as much as we want from the source.

(I fail to see how printed tights, which is what a majority of their OTKs are lately, would take months to produce)

>>10556848

You say this but just last year one of the US events announced Antoinette Decoration and some gull whined that it was an OTT dress catering to chinese lolitas that US AP sucks for offering that instead of something less OTT.

>>10556952
I sell accessories nwt all the time. Usually there are two reasons. Either:

1. I panic clicked and bought more than I needed. On the girly sticker otks, the page wasn’t loading up my cart and I panic clicked add to cart several times to make sure it was working and ended up with 3 of one color.
2: I generally buy more than I end up wearing because I don’t want to want it later and get scalped.

I usually just auction off what I don’t wear, starting at retail. Any extra dollars goes back into my burando pot.

>>10557046
No one cares about your reasons for scalping

>>10557082
Anon literally asked you turd fucker

>>10557083
Nayrt but they literally didn't, they just speculated people were scalping, never once did they ask lol

>>10557046
ironically, this is probably how a lot of so-called scalping happens. People are afraid to get scalped so they buy even if they're on the fence, then let LM bid it to the high heavens. There really aren't THAT many legit scalpers to account for the speed of the sellouts. After every release there's 2-3 profiles on mercari/fril/fish/LM selling stuff, but it's actually not a whole lot of people or a whole lot of items given ho quickly hyped releases go.

>>10557046
>the page wasn’t loading up my cart and I panic clicked add to cart several times to make sure

Same thing happened to me with bear chocolatier. I got 2 of the pink and the brown color because when my cart didn't load I clicked again. I was triggered by how quick those moco moco socks went.

to be completely fair let's not forget about the brand we don't see because people don't keep up with xianyu or similar platforms. although you can't tell how many pieces went that direction

>>10557087
They're also buying and scalping in China too.

>>10557046
i mean you're still scalping even if it's "accidental"

>>10556959
I've kind of accepted now that AP is going to continue to stray further from what I (and many others) want. I think it's kinda dead for me in that way. They keep trying to bring back their "magic," but it's just missing.

Specifically for the plush bags - the quality has just plummeted. I don't think they can produce well-made plush bags anymore. The new fur they use is that cheap, shiny, flimsy, dollar-store kind, and the construction is a lot worse. I don't want to see what a "rerelease" pony bag would look like. The old ones would still be worth $300-500.

I wish AP was more about quality and less about how fast they can release things. Like other anons have said, I'd happily take half as many releases, or even 25% as many, if it meant that we got thoughtful, unique collections.

>>10557164
I also wanted to add to my post that I think it's get likely secondhand prices will continue to rise for AP. Others said the sweet boom will end, but I'm not convinced in general. I'm not sure prices will go back down to buying Milky Planet for $80 and jewelry for $5-10. As the disillusionment with AP continues, I can see prices getting completely out of control, like old collectibles. Of course AP can target certian things and rerelease them, but I don't think it'll ever be enough.

Granted, maybe in x-years when lolita dies and there's only a handful of people selling, things will be different. But in the short term, I'm not feeling great about the next 5-7 years. I would love to be wrong though.

If AP price tag keeps growing on second hand market, there’s a solid chance I can make some money on my stuff when I’m ready to sell it.

>>10557164
I don't understand how Baby can make a thousand different limited edition kumyas that are all of similar quality for years yet AP can't manage to produce their plush bags at a consistent quality.

>>10557183
I feel that although AP will always be popular, OTT 2010s sweet revival is still a trend at the end of the day. something else will come along to eventually replace it. but desu, it sounds like it's the Chinese comm that will decide it for us

>>10557103
I'm so pissed that mint is Japan exclusive, it's the 2nd cutest color behind yellow.

>>10557103
I'll never buy anything from xianyu (or Chinese sellers on LM) because China is a dirty smokey nicotine stained cesspit of heavy metals and smog

>>10557262
More likely because xianyu is a pit of replica vipers.

>>10557194
What's crazy is that kumya's are actually very good quality. Tbh in manufacturing it all comes down to how much you're willing to spend. If you'll drop the dough, there are numerous high quality facotries in China that even manage high end normie brand production. The shitty quality is just a hint at how massive their margins are.

>>10557269
Tbh the quality decline is inevitable no matter what and baby’s quality has gone down, but it’s far better than anything ap is putting out.

>>10557271
I have never has a kumya that felt like lower quality than an older one and I own at least 18 of them.

>>10557271
Maybe in their dresses (though I've found their cotton releases are still high quality as long as you're buying from actual Baby and not AatP) but their kumyas are still as high quality as they've ever been. They've been adding cute foot stamps onto the newer exclusive releases too, which is a nice bonus.

>>10557271
I only own two usa’s but they’re about 8 years apart I think. The quality of the construction and materials is really really high and if you notice they weigh a shit ton compared to AP bags. I also own an original release milky bear bag and 4 others from more recent stuff, chick chan, lyrical bunny rucksack and two of the pony bags. I wish baby had more variety, but the quality really blows ap plush bags out of the water.

AP are turning into the overpriced fast fashion of lolita

>>10557403
They've been fast fashion for a long while now.

>>10557403
Ehhhh, nah not really. Fast fashion makes unlimited amounts almost every week. AP makes a lot, but no anywhere close to the same pace.

Their quality is just shitty now, because they're cheap.

>tfw casualfag who doesn’t care for OTKs and animal ears
Feels good

>>10557082
>>10557148
Nayrt but what the fuck do you expect people to do if they want to sell something with huge market demand? Bury it? Sell it for RRP so someone else can scalp it? Fucking poorfags I swear

>>10557476
They would like sellers to come to this board, find anons who complain about prices, track their IP address, contact them via DM, and then pay them for the honor of selling them a pair of Moco Moco Otks for -$15

i wish AP would take like a whole year off from new items and just rerelease their best old shit and nothing else

>>10556827
AP is headed back in that direction, look at how many items came out with Moco Moco bunnys. Cutsew sweaters, skirt, JSK, op, cutsew op, OTKs, hair clip, bunny ear KC, beret, two versions of jewelry (the moco bunny and bunny tag) and multiple lyrical bunny purse styles.

>>10556632
Literally all of my things between 3 separate orders from the US Moco moco bunny release were changed to that. Same thing with my moco bunny ring from the Paris release. I don’t think either of them had any of it actually in the store

>>10557933
Paris releases are always reservations now, they don't have the items in stock yet when they go up

>>10557805
Me too.

>>10557933
Paris never has them in-store, they pre-release things and the page you buy the item from says to expect a wait whilst they source it from Japan.

>>10557805
What would you consider their "best old shit"?

>>10557964
NTA but anything with cotton seems to be the growing opinion I’m seeing

honestly though I would take Milky Planet with the original scalloped edges in a heartbeat

>losing hope anything else will be announced any time soon

>>10557964
> chocolate stuff, especially MRC
> velvet stuff
> applique dresses
> plush bags. would mention pleather novelty bags too, but these aren’t too sustainable
> fancy cotton blouses, neck tie ones too
> crochet lace cardigans and sweaters
> OTT hats like Melty Cake or Holy Night Story (pretty much unbelievable nova days)

feel free to correct me on this though

>>10558047
they won't re-release milky planet and if they do, they won't have any of the original glitter stuff. They don't do that anymore because glitter in the print requires the use of rotary printing. This requires the print to have a custom rotary cut for the fabric and I get the distinct impression that AP doesn't pay up for that kind of fabric production anymore.

>>10557964
> chocolate stuff, especially MRC
> velvet stuff
> applique dresses
> plush bags. would mention pleather novelty bags too, but these aren’t too sustainable
> fancy cotton blouses, neck tie ones too
> crochet lace cardigans and sweaters
> OTT hats like Melty Cake or Holy Night Story (pretty much unbelievable nowadays)

feel free to correct me on this though

>>10558052
This is the most depressing thing honestly. It’s not just MP, but I feel like they would barely pay for anything labor costing, except for maybe brocade stuff, as we saw it before. It’s sad because labor costing, detailed stuff was actually their trademark, basically the thing that put them above other brands.

>>10558052
>>10558054

>most depressing thing honestly

It really is, because I’m sure (most of us anyway) are more than willing to spend for quality.

I have entire lists of things I can pray they rerelease - but second hand market is only way for lots of them. Age will soon leave nothing left
>except for the poly of course

I used to be such a dumbass when it came to fabrics - in that I much preferred the chiffon releases. Now I would kill someone for some old cotton border prints to be rereleased

I guess that’s trends though, 5 years and we will all be reminiscing of when AP added lace to their dresses kek

>>10558052
The MTO for Toy Doll Box was cotton with glitter on the print and it came out less than a year ago.

>>10558052
>>10558054

imo, the depressing thing is not that "they won't", but rather, they seem to run their litmus test of whether the market likes it or not with random releases, and then if it flops they just don't bother doing it again.

Like low-waist dresses seem to have gone the way of the dodo after both Mercator and the cat print didn't fully sell out. High waists are here to stay because people keep buying them.

Last "version" of MRC they did was the whip cream one with weird trim in odd places and I don't think it sold as well as the previous royal chocolate series, so it seems like they think we're tired of jacquard dessert prints? In fact it was just a bit of an ugly design rather than the fabric.

Twinkle Sky was a glitter print, and so was Magic Princess. They may have phased glitter prints out because both were flops rather than the rotary cutter thing.

It's kinda odd, but I think they're sticking to pumping out plainer dresses because girls are buying them up, or something.

>>10558064
if they make a simple-cut poly dress and it flops, they lose $. if they make a dress with special printing/materials/cut and it flops, they lose $$$. makes sense they would avoid the risk.

>>10558064
>>10558066
you guys seem having more understanding than I do. how do you think why did they stop making pony bags? they were such a statement thing for AP. was that Cirque du L'Étoile flop or something?

>>10558063
Exactly, came here to say this.

>>10558084
Why make ponies when you can make $$$ on fucked up looking milky bears?

>>10558084
That was the last time AP offered a pony bag.

>>10558061
>5 years and we will all be reminiscing of when AP added lace to their dresses
This is something I really wonder about. I have no idea how AP will look in 5 years and I'm scared for it. I have a hard time imagining that they'll actually get better and not worse. I feel like I'll be here, watching an auction for Toy Parade go to 7k.

I almost hope that AP crashes and burns and is forced to release MTOs to rake in money. That's a huge fail-safe for them. That's the only reason I'm confident that the original Milky Planet will be rereleased before I die. Just look at CTP - never in a million years did anyone think AP would rerelease that print. And then Toy Fantasy (which wasn't even super popular or expensive secondhand). It's like AP was testing the waters for the triple MTO they announced this year (SC, Nakayoshi Bunny, Candy Fairy). As AP gets older, the probability of rereleases goes up. Even old movie studios remaster their films and charge people for it.

>>10558061
>5 years and we will all be reminiscing of when AP added lace to their dresses
Oh God I hope not. I already rarely but new as it is.
I kind of hope the new release Little Bunny Strawberry is cotton and it helps convince them to release more cotton because we all know it'll sell out. But still doubt.

>>10558124
There also was a Disney collab equine, which is actually pretty in a way, but personally I like chonky leg ponies better. I just don't get this >>10558084 release at all. Did they think that people would like it better being more realistic?

>>10558052
theres no reason to think they won't rerelease milky planet. 3 months ago who ever thought we would get a candy fairy and nakayoshi bunny rerelease? this statement isn't based in any reality. the MTO toy doll box has glitter on it too.

>>10558224
The thing is, if they were going to release it, why woudn't they do it in the anniversary year. Also yes they are re-releasing Nakayoshi and Candy fairy, but with substantial compromises.

>>10558084
I think it has to do with the cost and structure. Milky Bear bags have declined drastically in quality. The original bears have thicker fur, a larger size, and have a little mouth sewn in. They are also sturdier, but bear bags will always be able to get away with being floppier. Pony bags have to be very precise and structured, making them substantially more difficult and expensive to produce.

Ultimately, I think the rise of a Chinese middle class and labor standards are the problem. It costs more to produce in China than ever before, to the point that US manufacturing is actually not that much more expensive for higher-end goods. But since AP clearly has a lot of relationships and capital tied up in China, they are limited by that when producing new items, or when selecting old items to revive.

>>10558253
>the rise of a Chinese middle class and labor standards are the problem

Yeah fuck those sweatshop workers for developing standards

>>10558256
Well, fuck AP for building their business model around sweatshop labor.

>>10558253
At least baby just increased the prices. I'd pay more for AP if it were as high quaity as Baby. Some of the new baby prints retail at nearly $400 these days but based on the christmas one I got, the quality is still top tier

>>10558245
I mean those were announced for the winter tea party, they very well could do more MTOs before the year is over

>>10558245
because sugary carnival came before milky planet and its more "iconic"? it was the first dress that really defined that era.

>>10558278
ikr? It's February, and people acting like AP's run out of time to do more anniversary MTOs.

>>10558253
China isn't the only place they produce items though. If anything their nicer stuff comes from the Philippines, if not Japan, in my experience.

Okay. I think I'm done buying AP's new plush.

I knew I shouldn't have bought these from the release in Japan, but I wanted to have faith. Left is the lyrical bunny pouch. The ribbon came frayed straight out of the package. I could deal with it if it was on the end or something because I could seal it with a flame, but in the middle like this? It's pretty upsetting. I'm going to put fabric glue on top of it, because it's already becoming a hole.
The right is the goodnight bunny bag. The mouth embroidery is messed up yet again (my lyrical MTO pouch also had an uneven mouth).
In general, both bags are just cheap. They remind me of $15 throw-away Valentine's bears in the drug store aisle. I have a bunch of other AP plush bags, and I much rather pay $300 or whatever secondhand for something good than deal with this again. Every single new purchase there's been something wrong with AP. These bags were ~$100 and $150. I feel like I wasted so much money.

>>10558374
Jesus that bunny bag looks like shit.

>>10558374
And you know they’re not gonna give a fuck if you complain

>>10558374
Holy shit I'm so sorry anon.

>>10558131
I actually like this pony. I didn't buy one of these because I have an older Milky Pony with a white body.

>>10558389
Yep. I should have known. I really like sax and I kind of leap at the chance to buy any blue bunnies, but I was so disappointed. Maybe I can wear it out and not care about messing it up like my nicer bag? I don't know. It's so wonky.

>>10558391
Exactly. I've never complained to AP because I know they'll do nothing (and also I get most of my stuff through Japan, so it's double hopeless). It's insane to me that out of my 10+ other AP plush bags, none has had a defect, but one after another the new bags do.

>>10558392
Thank you. I'm having a bad day after experiencing a severe allergic reaction, and opening my package just made me feel kinda worse. I just have to shrug it off and try to not fixate on the poor quality. I'll know better next time and try not to buy more of the plush bags.

Damn, you can see all their scalped shit in a pilr in the background. The plastic container im guessing holds all the jewelry they plan to scalp/currently scalping.

Are they even located in the UK?? I heard they actually arent but the USD to BP conversion meant they got more money

>>10558401
How does someone even get multiple bags like this and manage to make a profit? There's 3 more ponies in the background.

>>10558409
Probs all from xianyu. Pretty sure the seller is chinese

>>10558412
I doubt it, xianyu never has these bags for single purchase, I think she’s getting it from kk. Also that looks like a replica to me. Note the shape of the head. Mine is an original purchase and is more flat shaped.

>>10558425
all of that shit in the background looks like a replica.

>>10558398
Damn. Now I wish I hadn't bought the sleepy bunny bag.

You could always sell these on lacemarket though. Start an auction at retail.

>>10558374
Christ it looks like the fur was trimmed down too much on the goodnight bunny's mouth too. You can see the fabric the fur was attached to. ):

>>10558374
Is this a case of the fake fur getting awkwardly trapped under the stitching? Like, can you pull it up from under the mouth thread and fluff it up? For how much you spent you shouldn’t have to, but maybe it will make it look nicer. Ever see that video about how to make your kumyas look better? Same thing, they sorta trim around the eyes and pull the fake fur up from where it gets caught in seams and under stitching

>>10558374
you can see so clearly how cheap the material is on the sleeping bunny in this shot. Thanks for sharing anon. That legit looks like some walmart shit.

>>10558409
That's definitely a replica bag. The general proportions are off, and the star button appears to be much too light, but both of these could be issues with the photography.

I'm reluctant to point it out in case someone might try to use this to build an even more convincing replica, but the dead giveaway is the ear shape. In the original 2010 release with the pink eye stitching on PinkxSax the ears are clearly forward-facing, with the interior side of the ear being stiched facing forward, not tucked in and under. The ears on this bag are more like fawn ears than pony ears.

>>10558468
>Ever see that video about how to make your kumyas look better?
I can't find the video, any more details to help find it?

>>10558409
someone should ask to see the AP tag on the inside of the pouch. I have one and this looks p legit to me. Would never buy shit from this bitch tho. If I were any sweet fag rn I'd wait till this dumbass trend is over.

>>10558465
Oh no, that's just the fur being stuck where the seam was sewn. If that made sense. You can pull out the fur a little from the seam to make it look better.

>>10558374
This is why I don’t care if people buy plush bag replicas.

>>10558468
Sorry yes, you're right. I just replied to the other anon >>10558563

The fur being stuck under the seam doesn't bother me. What bothers me is how uneven the mouth "embroidery" is. Like one side of the mouth is longer than the other.

All I want is OG Milky Planet rerelease, but I have a feeling they would give us the ugly second release.

>>10558571
In poly lol and ham planet friendly

>>10558489
Here it is!

https://youtu.be/DOvnqcNe5uw

>>10558487
Just took a look at mine and this is correct. The ears shouldn’t fold across like that.

>>10558571
I don't even care which releases cuts or which fabric. I just want it in black.

>>10558845
Have fun, the last one in black went for $800

>>10558930
One sold for about 500 a week or two ago on LM

Was there a period where AP glued the rectangular tags onto their blouses instead of sewing them? I washed a blouse from 2010 and the tag in the collar has started to peel off.

>>10558702
thanks so much!

So who’s got a prediction on what is coming out next week? I’m guessing the daisy dress

>>10559075
The Bear's Chocolaterie jewelry

>>10559038
I've never heard of that or seen that on any on my AP blouses. That seems really odd i m o.

>>10558263
Literally everyone does that though. Use an iPhone? Chinese sweatshop. Use an Android? Chinese sweatshop. The computer you're typing on. Chinese sweatshop.

The next step is everyone to move their manufacturing to Africa, the new wild west for sweat shops.

>>10559155
Well obviously, but that doesn’t mean we have to like it. We have no choice but to use items made in sweatshops in many areas of life.
But also it feels like the term sweatshops is overused to pretty much mean any factory these days. Just because someone only makes $20/day doesn’t mean they’re underpaid, oftentimes that’s just a currency conversion thing and $20/day there is equivalent to like $120 in the US when it comes to actual buying power. Still not a fantastic wage but definitely livable. Not everything can be hand made by artisans making $60/hr

>>10558487
I actually bought my Pony bag in the AP store. My bag is not "perfect", but I love it. This bag looks authentic to me. AP sold these bags for several years and there were different iterations of them. This bag is from the Milky Pony series, which is same series as my bag.

>>10559191
There’s only one release with the pink pony on pink eye stitching anon. That be a replica.

Talking about pony bags and frilly fix concept, what colorways you think would look good besides existing ones? I keep thinking about pony in different shades of brown instead of pink, but I’m not sure if that would look good in actual coordinates.

>>10559283
I took multiple pictures of my pony and unicorn bags, and flipped through pictures. I enjoy animating the bags.

Is anyone familiar with the sizing of this specific JSK? It's a fairly old AP JSK and I saw someone selling it for dirt cheap, and I was considering snagging it or something.

>>10558401
Wow, the other anon was right about the ear thing. Also, i guess the 2011 release did have the pink eye stitching??

>>10559444
This one has blue eye stitches

Moco moco Bunnys looks pretty nice in darker light

>>10559470
It’s overstuffed

>>10559470
Ugh I wish I got the JSK in pink now

>>10559473
pretty sure this is from tyler's monster petticoat video

>>10559508
Amazing how she’s got such a huge wardrobe and still knows jack shit about lolita. This looks terrible.

>>10559283
I would love a sax pony

>>10559283
okay, I just tried to mess around with colors, so here we go. first, mint pony for mint store

>>10559562
surprisingly cute yellow x lavender

>>10559563
and also tried to make gray since Milky bears turned out cute in this silver gray

>>10559542
Her wardrobe isn’t huge for how long she’s been in the fashion. It’s actually kind of underwhelming since she’s been in the fashion for a decade.

>>10559564
This is disgusting and looks like its a pink color way that hasn’t been washed in ages.

>>10559564
> fell under bed and found +10 years later edition

>>10559564
Maybe this would work if there was no pink?

>>10559542
It's just a weird angle anon, it looked quite good from the front

>>10559572
Pink bits were definitely off

>>10559581
Now it looks like a white bag that got dirty vs a pink one.

>>10559581
This straight up looks like an old beanie baby.

>>10559573
I saw the video. The petti is too big for the dress, it's overstuffed to hell. Not sure why you want to die on this hill

Is there a reason why the Moco Moco Bunnys OTKs haven't popped up secondhand, even from scalpers? I've literally only seen one listing and it was already reserved for someone else. The socks seem particularly rare, like either people really want them or there was even less stock to begin with.

Just wondering because I want to throw money at them and I've been constantly looking for listings.

>>10559470
it's really cute here, shame it photographs horribly

>>10559625
Welcome to the world gothic lolitas experience daily

>>10559441

Can't say for certain but the full shirring JSK I have is at least 120 cm on both.

>>10558425
>>10558706
>>10558487
Seconding, this bag looks exactly like my legit one except the ears, head included.

AP USA is getting Bear's Chocolaterie this week. Get ready for the crash, gulls.

>>10559563
.. I need it

>>10559581
I like this one, I would love a grey

>>10559749
The Melty Chocolate ankle socks aren't in the email, which means they forgot to include them (could be) or they're just not getting any (more likely).

>>10559542
Seriously. She was lampshading hard especially in the blue melody toys dress. The cotton of the third tiered dress actually held its shape and didn't lampshade, and looked good, she must be fucking blind not to see the difference on how her skirts look to her?? Tyler, I know you're reading this, you're going to want to pull the petticoat down lower on your waist so that the edge of the poly skirts are actually supported by the petticoat and not hanging over it, drooping. The bell shape is not supposed to curve inwards at the very end.

>>10559470
The art is cute af on its own but as a dress it's pretty bad. When I saw the video I couldn't even tell it was a new release it all blurs together and looks quite boring.

I don't understand why AP does that. Space Lollipop is the most guilty of that. All those lollipop designs were so cute but they will forever melt into a a blob of space. They never even got cute jewelry iirc.

>>10559770
Space Lollipop could have had such cute jewelry...

>>10559757
Could also be in the next shipment

>>10559749
Actually super relieved that I don't have to sit through another AP USA release. Sometimes not liking chocolate prints and bears is good

>>10559808
>tfw i love both
please kill me.

>>10559818
I love both but hate poly and got the chocolate crew socks I wanted from the Paris release so I'll just be here for moral support and trying not to freeze to death (RIP Texas gulls who may still be without power by release day)

>>10559542
> knows all the releases she owns and many more by name and release date, including socks and jewellery
> knows what the cuts are called
> good color matching
> wears petticoat wrong once
> BuuHH sHe knoWs JaCK shit AbooUt lolita Buuuuh uuuh

k

>>10559566
Hot take: lolitas who have been in the fashion for a long time but don't have 100+ dresses are completely normal people, the ones who have hundreds of dresses are weirdo hoarders.

>>10559600
They're so cute. I'm not selling mine. Good luck anon, I hope you're able to get a pair!

>>10559949
>lolitas who have been in the fashion for a long time but don't have 100+ dresses are completely normal people
This. I've been in it for 10+ years and only have like 30 dresses. At one point I had more but it's more about quality than quantity. I've also needed money at times and had to sell. Shit happens.

>>10559949
This. People with 100+ wardrobes just need to accept they have a hoarding problem and stop projecting to feel better about themselves

>>10559966
For real. I have a huge walk in closet and I've had to get a rack to hang in my room to comfortably store my ~60 dresses and all my blouses and outerwear and what not. Countless boxes to store accessories and plush bags. It's insane, I can hard imagine having 100+ and I've consciously tried to keep my wardrobe BELOW 60 too prevent overstuffing.

Didn't even milkyfawn only have like 60-70 main pieces?

>>10559949
Honestly people that even own as many dresses as her weird me out just a little bit. I have half what she has after near a decade, and the only normies I know that even get close to rivaling me in closet size have severe shopping addictions.

>>10559949
>>10559969
I feel self-conscious whenever I get over 30 pieces, though I'm not a daily lolita so I don't feel I need as many pieces as a daily lolita probably would. Still, 100+ pieces? When do they wear them? How do they store them?

>>10559989
>looks in closet
>has somewhere around 65+ AP dresses, many more accessories
>been in the fashion 4.5 years
Oh no. Am I terrible...?

>>10559994
I mean I guess it depends on how well your finances are still doing. If you're rich enough to amass so many so quick I'm not one to judge but a lot of girls I see in the fashion with huge wardrobes live in shitty little 1 bedrooms with their boyfriends

>>10560002
I've always been a lonelita so I don't really have many people to compare myself directly to. I actually thought my wardrobe was small until recently.

>>10559563
Lav x yellow is the master coord colorway

This is gonna be the year of rereleases, gulls.

Surprising update is SURPRISING.
I’m not sure if I’m getting anything though. How do you guys feel about another round of cookies?

>>10560034
damn again?

>>10560035
they're really getting my hopes up for more surprise treats at this point!

>>10560035
this looks comfy af

>>10560035
This is hella cute and I'm not even a fan of the print. AP really going hard on the cutsew dresses lately.

>>10560034
I wish AP would spread the love and stop re-releasing print that already had fairly recent re-releases.

>>10560034
>tfw the op is still super short
Even risa looks taller than usual in it

>>10560042
Being short is part of its charm imo

>>10560002
I just hit 100 brand main pieces and I've been in the fashion not even 4 years but in all honestly I didn't really spend jackshit on most of them? I don't have much AP tbf but I'm constantly seeing other brand's dresses from $75 all the way down to $30 a pop secondhand. I'm not even really getting dresses I don't actively want either and I do wear them regularly enough since I try to do casual daily. I do occasionally sell pieces that don't fit right or that I don't end up reaching for enough but I'm pretty pleased with my current collection. I also have a better than average savings, no cc debt, and decent enough house. I don't even have a great job but it's all about budgeting, bargain hunting and the rest is I guess having tastes that aren't currently popular?

>>10560034
Where do I find more info? I missed out on the last rerelease so I'd love to get this!

>>10560047
Why the fuck do we get this question every week now. It's not even summer

http://www.angelicpretty.com/newarrival/newarrival/index_20210220.htm

>>10560048
Yeah sorry I actually knew this, I was too excited and my brain stopped working... But thanks anon!

>>10560034
AP finally deciding not to leave so much cash on the table

>>10560048
Just don't reply to stupid questions next time?

>>10560034
Where’s my fucking bear jewelry that should have been released on Valentines gdi???

>>10560002
>mfw when a shitty little one bedroom would set you back a fuckton in my city

>>10560034
I know the recent red special set colorway was unpopular with gulls but I really liked it. I wish they had included it in this rerelease

>>10560034
Loving all the re-releases, but I'd love it even more if they would release some goddamn skirts

>>10560063
They keep skipping the skirts and mini skirts, when they're usually the items I want the most
>tfw no sugary carnival skirt
>tfw no melody toys mini skirt

>>10560035
>tfw AP rereleases this because it's poly and easier for them to produce than any other cotton dress
Fuck

>>10560035
My wallet is safe this week, which is honesty a relief.

>>10560066
I'm honestly so bored. Secondhand markets are pretty dry and picked over. The excitement of the 3 MTOs has died down since we know nothing about the other two. Then the past 3 weeks have all been brown, bears, chocolate etc.

>>10559947

>>10560068
Same. It's hard to keep being excited about Nakayoshi Bunny and Candy Fairy at this point. I'm sure the excitement will come back once they're actually announced, but until then I really don't care anymore.

New spoon dropped with photos of the spring collection

>>10560073
Holy shit I'm so fucking excited for this dress

>>10560073
Daisy print and a gingham series

Milkshake rerelease?

Some of the fancier dresses

And this is it! I’m sad we didn’t get a photo of the gummy bear print

>>10560073
I'm not a fan of any of this (I never buy anything with red on it) , but is this cotton?! Please Jesus AP bring cotton back

>>10560085
It genuinely looks like it could be cotton, but I'm afraid to hope. I'd rather be surprised than disappointed.

>>10560073
Bloodbath over this.

>>10560035
>>10560034
Looks like my bf's wallet is safe, I've never liked CCC.

>>10560065
Tbh I don't mint certain poly and better they rerelease chiffon stuff so that people can buy direct rather than fear replicas secondhand

>>10560094

>>10560073
Why can’t they make more like this

And not like this
>>10560075
>>10560076
>>10560078

>>10560500
The only reason I wouldn't buy >>10560078 is because I'm trying to save money and go for more casual looks this year.
So it's me it's my fault, sorry.

>>10559038
Never, it has always been sewn on.