/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10543645
Misako Antoinette

>>10543645
Is it possible to buy old-school pieces on Taobao or AliExpress? Can't find much, and most of it is in black or black x white colourways.

>>10543665
no, the whole point of old school is that it's old.

>>10543669
But old pieces are getting re-releases, there's no such a thing as "old-school inspired" or similar?

>>10543669
this is just not correct. old school is about styling yourself like the fashion was in that era. just as 2010s sweet has a distinct look that some pieces today mimic, old school is the same.

>>10543684
I understand. Any advice on finding pieces or specific current shops that follow the old-school guidelines? I can't buy from Japan because of covid, but Taobao is still working for me.

Any advice for restoring AP lace? One KC I'm considering purchasing is yellowed to hell (both the fabric and lace) and a different dress I bought has both faded lace on it as well as places where the red print on the dress seems to have bled into the lace. None of it is especially noticeable thankfully, but it bothers me.

Does anyone know where to find a nice old school cotton long sleeve blouse with shirring on the sleeves? I’ve been stalking the Japanese sites for a few days and they seem pretty hard to come by/get snatched up instantly. I got a bodyline one and a mistake was made lol

>>10543687
I'd honestly recommend going authentic and buying old school brand pieces from Lacemarket. A lot actually gets listed for pretty cheap and it's almost always going to be better quality and design than anything you can find from Taobao.

>>10543713
Everyone says this but I never see any examples of decent quality old school pieces being listed for cheap. Old school Solids are sought after right now

>>10543675
yes old dresses are getting rereleases but they're longer and require more petti than the original releases
>>10543687
>>10543684
currently on taobao there are replicas of the babydoll jsk, but it's very obviously a replica imo
or there is that shop that did the denim dress, i think they had "old school" inspired stuff but if you post yourself wearing that anywhere and call it old school there's a good chance you'll get ripped apart in the old school thread

>>10543710
Innocent World still has some old school revival blouses currently in stock, depending on what kind of neckline you want

>>10543724
>caring what gulls in the old school thread have to say (or really what gulls have to say at all)

kek

>>10543720
Because they get snatched up for cheap. Doesn't mean they never get listed.

>>10543724
I was going to say, Sibyl Heisei has some old school inspired designs right now.

If someone has already lowered the price of their dress on LM, is it rude to haggle it even lower? I'm hungry for the deal.

>>10543746
How much lower?

>>10543748
They dropped it 10%, I was hoping for 15%.

>>10543746
>>10543749
How fucking poor are you?

How can I make full shirred dresses look good?? I'm not even fat but it looks weird on me.

>>10543754
It depends on what looks weird.

I've noticed that some blouses look really bad around the armpit + sideboob area, depending on how they squish under the shirring. You can play with your blouse in the mirror and adjust how it's sitting under the dress (like pulling extra fabric to the front/back) to see what looks good.

If it's sitting weird around your waist, you could try shapewear to give more firmness for the shirring to rest against. You could also try a slip (like pic rel) over your petti to help the dress glide more nicely over your undergarments and avoid weird bunching.

>>10543768
The best option is to be small enough that you don't stretch out the shirring at all. Your second best option is to wear a corset or similar stiff structural undergarment so the shirring has a rigid shape to conform to rather than body fat, which it can and will squeeze into weird shapes.

>>10543726
Gdi I just checked and pretty much everthing is sold out.
Thanks though!

How often do french anon get hit by custom ? I know they changed the minimal prices to get taxed on item but I don't know often they catch over priced items and if it depend on how overprice it is.

Is cupcake shaped skirt and bell shaped skirt the same thing or different?

>>10543860
They’re the same thing for all intents and purposes

>>10543713
Thank you!
>>10543724
Thanks, I'll have this in mind when buying newer stuff.

Does the japanese btssb site ship to europe? The website says it ships worldwide, but I can't put a 5 digit zip code for shipping even though I select my country in the list.

>>10543903
I live in Germany and ordered multiple times from them and never had any problems. Are you sure you filled in everything correctly?

>>10543906
Yes, i'm also in Germany and have been trying so many times now and it gave error on the zip code every time. I just tried it on mobile and now it actually worked, so I feel really stupid now. Sorry for the unnecessary trouble

>>10543771
>>10543768
Thank you, I'm going to try all the tips.

Is it true that newer AP socks are made thinner these days?

>>10544248
100%

>>10544248
Somewhat. I have socks from 2003 and i got the newest topping heart otks from a couple months ago and the 2003 ones not only fit better but have lasted thru many wears and washes whereas my topping heart otks warped in the wash :/ also i have snagged them.

>>10544248
they're a slightly different material is the main thing.

>>10543720
.... I'm selling oldschool pieces for cheap on LM right now, anon, so no idea what you're talking about. Unless you mean cheap = like, 45 bucks? Bc good luck with that.

>>10543749
Go for it. The worst that can happen is they'll post you all over SM and we'll all get to lol at you.

>>10544462
Nayrt, Do you mind linking your lm? I've been looking for old school pieces

Are sweaters like this suitable for lolita under a jsk or with a skirt?

>>10544471
I think they're super cute and cozy, I have a few from ETC/Milk that I wear under JSK's for winter. Baby makes turtlenecks like that as well.

>>10544471
sure, they're pretty cute

Where can I buy a petticoat longer than 70cm?

>>10544502
Melikestea. They're usually willing to do custom orders.

New releases have been announced, so it's dump time! No dresses this week, just a bunch of accessories. Starting off with the Bunny Toy headbow which comes in white x pink, yellow x lavender, and pink x sax.

>>10544248
Yes, socks from 2011 were thicker, but they also had a lot less stretch, and were shorter

Is bodyline shipping to the US right now? It’s my first time buying from them since the start of the pandemic

>>10544556
Yeah, they ship through UPS now and it’s quick as fuck

I was >>10540657 in last thread and needed to answer
>>10541279
( if the picture is too bad in quality I can upload it in multiple part )
The idea of doing a collage was great ! I don't really have a dream dress, I guess maybe the jane marple screen printed skirt since I find it especially stunning.
The last vertical row on the right are dresses which I like the design/ print but not the color.

I do like navy and navy X white, cream or gold but I didn't find many pictures of dress in this color way, the only brand accesories I own are in this color.
I like tongue and cheek design very much, even tought they seem to be more in sweet styles in general. I also like green, especially in velvet but it's less common and I don't really like it paired with a lot of colors. I noticed too that I really like gobelin but not really with a darker brown background.

I saw the brown pintuck meta dress on the 6 th vertical row ( left to right ) in black but I don't really know if it's a good idea to get it since I don't know if items I will get to coord it could also work also with black X white or red main pieces.

>>10544693
Some of these dresses are really random in this collage, lol. You have a bunch of classic and then you have Puppet Circus and Girly Leopard...anyway, if you're really set on buying from Europe, you should probably just stalk the secondhand market until you see something you like.

Any good detergent recommendations for the german region? I never can find any of the stuff recommended here.

I disagree with >>10544699, I think it's relatively straightforward.
Anon likes nature themes and has a weak spot for leopard prints and all-over smaller florals. She prefers earthy tones (browns, reds, greens). I would say anon is a(n old-school) sweet lolita. The MM OP is definitely on the sweeter side and Rococo Bouquet has often been coorded in a sweeter style as well. If anon was a classic lolita, I think she would have picked more of IW's clothes over Meta's.

>>10544693
I'm none of the anons you responded to, but I think most people thought of a majority VM/MM/IW wardrobe when you said "Classic lolita". Looking at your style now, it's no wonder you were having a hard time finding things on the second hand market. I did a quick search and couldn't find anything in Europe that I thought you might like. However, if you're willing to look at Asia, I think there are 2 dresses from Singapore that you might like.
https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/rose-bouquet-jsk
https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/metamorphose-cl-back-ribbon-jsk

>>10544693
>>10544735 cont.
>I saw the brown pintuck meta dress [...] I don't really know if it's a good idea to get it since I don't know if items I will get to coord it could also work also with black X white or red main pieces.
I agree with you on this. I do think black can work in a more old school styling, but that's probably something to explore as your wardrobe grows. I think you should focus on brown accessories and blouses in the meantime. Are you determined to wear lolita or are you buying your first dress to test the waters? If you have your heart set on lolita, you can consider looking for accessories that will match your outfit. (Blouses will be more difficult to buy without a main piece in mind.) This will give you something to do as you wait for a dress you like to pop up. You can make a capsule wardrobe to get a better sense of your style.

If you haven't, you might want to join EU lolita sale groups on Facebook. Sometimes people don't put their dresses up on Lacemarket because they don't feel it's worth the effort. If you ask around your local comm, who knows, maybe someone knows someone who has something you like. Good luck, anon!

any opinion on goody japan for buying off of mercari? how does it compare to other service sites such as buyee, zenmarket etc?

>>10543684
i disagree

>>10544758
then what is it to you

>>10544758
well you can disagree all you want as long as you know you're wrong. old school is about the styling and brands definitely release items that look the same style from time to time. hell, even brands like maxicimam are still releasing old school items that you probably couldn't identify as new releases.

Is that okay to make Harry Poter themed outfits if I never read the book?

Where I can get flat platform mary janes that aren't hard pleather or make my feet hurt like hell? I have Bodyline shoes with heels that make my toes hurt a lot and I cannot wear narrow mary janes or something because my big toe is too big lol, I cannot buy a size up because my feet are average sized not long or wide, just very sensitive to hard fake or real leather, to any type of heels except boots and shoes that are too narrow on the front.
Usually as non lolita shoes I use mostly boots, oxford with platform or flatform sandals that are high because I cannot wear fancy heeled shoes most of the time, I hate flat heeled shoes, only platform shoes or heels that are super confy even for super sensitive feet like mine.
T.U.K. shoes or Dr. Martens maryjanes are a good idea or it's just wasted money? They usually have flat platform or they aren't super flat as normal lolita low heeles shoes and have roomy front for my toes, they should be confy right?
I don't wear classic only toned down/casual sweet like salopettes, gothic lolita that is old school or very plain.

>>10544991
This is like the age old 'can I cosplay from something I never read/watched' lol

Yeah, it's fine, that shit's in the public consciousness at this point like Star Wars or Marvel. Though these days people start screeching about JK the moment you do anything HP, so you might get comments about it.

What this gesture means? I see Asian lolitas use it often

>>10545004
thumb and forefinger make a heart, nothing really deep

>>10545004
Means good luck and prosperity in Korean. Lots of Kpop stans use it

>>10545004
it's called a finger heart, it originated in korea due to kpop idols doing it

>>10545009
>Means good luck and prosperity in Korean.
no it doesn't, it's just a small heart shape. it's for selfies mostly since you usually only have one hand free.

>>10545004
asian version of this basically. used most commonly in korea and china

What free apps do people generally use to edit their photos in lolita? JP non-english apps work too if that's what people use. Preferably has lots of stickers and cute things to add on top of the photo

Is there a brand that has a gothic lolita bag that is :

>able to be worn as a backpack with shoulder straps
>not heavy, and suitable for long walks
>not going to peel ;_;


I like more subtle stuff like pic related, so not apple or violin shaped things. Would pic related work for my needs? I don’t want to ship stuff from japan and find out it’s super heavy

>>10545210
I enjoy my CCF academy bag. It doesn't feel like it will peel easily. The zipper compartment is a little tight, but otherwise roomy. I can take some pics if you want, but mine is brown×dark brown. If you are adamant about no peeling, maybe try looking on etsy or small companies for leather vintage style bags?

>>10545211
Omg thats so cute, i like this one on their website. I may get this one if i dont find anything else

No peeling isn’t super adamant but I guess they don’t have egl brands that do leather bags? I will try to look for vintage! but i’m into the cookie cutter edging thats popular now

>>10545215
Forgot pic whoops

>>10545199
Line Camera and Snow.
Line Camera has more stickers, Snow has more filters.

>>10545215 jane marple does leather bags but they can get pretty pricey and be hard to find secondhand

Are Shein tights acceptable? I was looking for tights for a hime coord I'm building and all the bridal ones are weird and sexual but I found nice floral lace ones on Shein. From my understanding it's a taobao reseller so is it cool to use?

>>10544248
Yes, they're thinner and longer. The solids have been pretty nice in my opinion, but I avoid busy prints because it looks bad on the thinner material

>>10545282
No. Please don’t buy anything from there, they use child slave labor. Also it’ll probably look ugly

>>10545288
>they use slave labor
No one tell anon about taobao, forever21, western brands like nike, or many jfashion brands for that matter

>>10545282
People wear Shein/Taobao/Aliexpress/Wish lace tights all the time with Jfashion. You can even see them in official brand shoots. They probably use child/prison labor but so does everything else made in China and Southeast Asia.

>>10545288
pretty much every company uses exploited labor sis

i'm a moron when it comes to garment construction, but would a seamstress be able to like... move the waistline on a dress with a princess seam like an inch downwards somehow? is that possible? it hits me in an awkward spot on my torso

>>10545312
Short answer: no

>>10545312
if it's a jsk, you could have the straps lengthened instead

>>10545216
Innocent world replica.

>>10545324
These school bag style bags exist outside of jfashion and have come in tons of colors and similar designs from tons of lolita brands including AP too. Is AP making IW replicas now?

>>10545312
No but they could potentially make the straps longer. I have a Judy cut baby dress and got the waist ties added to the straps to make the empire waist hit my natural waist

Why are usakumya and kumakumya rucksacks so expensive on the west?
I have both of them, I got them for dirt cheap at Yahoo! Auctions and Fril, for the Usakumya I payed ¥9,000 and for the Kumakumya ¥11,000.
They both are in perfect conditions, but today I decided to give it a look at lacemarket and they are so expensive!!! Does anyone knows why?

>>10545354
Because retarded daddy's money rich newbies buy them

I remember this etsy store, BelliniBunny, used to have notepads for planning out lolita coords. I can't find them now so maybe the shop is closed.
Is there anything similar to it? Or any other lolita-related stationery would be great :)

>>10545314
>>10545316
>>10545337
yeah i assumed not. i have strap extenders i use on my JSKs, but it's an OP unfortunately :( i love the design otherwise

WTF. I'm buying a old school dress off fril using japonica and saw they (the SS) commented on the listing, "since an item is missing can we have a price cut". I know the parts are missing and I don't care, I don't want the deal to fall through because of haggling that I didn't ask for...is this normal? First time using them..do they pocket the difference? Is this a standard thing to do?

>>10545312
>>10545378
It's doable but you'd need a donor dress to get fabric from to construct an entirely new bodice and attach the skirt to it.

I can't for the life of me remember the names of these OTKs? Both Angelic Pretty

>>10543645
Bumping from last thread, but I would like ID on these shoes (or at least something similar)

>>10545396
Those look like separate ankle cuff wings and not part of the shoe, if that helps

>>10545372
She's on hiatus https://www.etsy.com/shop/bellinibunny

>>10544993
I find TUK shoes very comfortable but their pointed styles run slightly narrow (good for me because I have narrow feet, but check reviews). The round toe styles would probably work good for you. Dr Martens it depends on the leather style, smooth leather will hurt like hell to break in, soft leather styles like pebbled are comfortable out of the box. Not sure about their pleather.

ID on these coats? all I know is from E Hyphen World Gallery

Qualitywise and as of now, is AP the best egl brand? Are all the big brands also good quality? By quality i mean not flimsy and made to last. I am new and don’t have things from every brand.

I have some newer ap cutsews and hoodies and they are so thick. I can see them lasting for years.
Also have a meta dress thats 10 years old which is of comparable quality, but I don’t have anything new by them. I heard things about baby items falling apart sooner. I also heard moi meme moitie started using cheap materials?

>>10545392
Not sure about the brown ones but the red ones are the wrapping ribbon border otks

I've never used Tenshi as an SS before.
How exactly does sending in a request for an upcoming AP release usually go?
Is it normal to not get at least a "I might be able to help!" as a response to an request form within 24 hours?
I'm just a little concerned I might get a "Sorry, my slots are all full" at the last minute and be unable to reserve a spot with another SS or miss out on possible Paris restocks.

>>10545464
another anon said tenshi has been on vaycay for a bit after the SC MTO.

also, it is a little normal not to hear back from her within 24 hours during this time. this year is exceptionally busy for her. there have been times when she never got back to me for items that were easy to get and still in stock because she was too busy.

but if you're one of the first to email her, it's likely she'll get back to you once the release is actually near

I bought an item from an LM seller a couple weeks ago and after I paid she never messaged me again letting me know she shipped out my item. She has a lot of positive feedbacks with people saying they eventually got the item but that the seller's communication isn't good (I only realized this after buying because they worded it really lightly, rip). I messaged her a few times already asking for an update but no response. Should I just keep waiting and hoping my item will show up at my door eventually? Or...

>>10545445
I would say in most cases, AP is very good at details - custom lace, detailed prints, pockets, etc That said, a lot of their pieces are polyester and has delicate details so if you take care of them, they will last a while.

I can also confirm that Meta's pieces are built to last and with the amount of detachables, made for building lots of different coords and looks.

I personally think Baby and AATP has gone down a bit in quality, but it also depends on when it was released. Keep in mind though that Baby is a bigger company, so their production is scaled up more than Meta and AP.

I don't have experience with MMM, but Innocent World has great blouses. May require a bit of extra care, but they are very nice quality.

>>10545511
If only Baby would start putting pockets in their dresses

>>10545511
I thought AP was bigger than Baby

Are any dresses that have prints with snake motifs, preferably in a classic or gothic style?

How do I find virtual comm events/meets??? I finally dove into Lolita during quarantine so I've never met up IRL or know any comms.

>>10545372
>>10545405
Just a passing anon to say thanks for mentioning these, I love the coord planner idea! Going to keep an eye out for when she opens back up again too

>>10545445
Absolutely not AP, lol. If we're talking about only newer items and from currently operating lolita brands I would say the best current quality is Victorian Maiden, followed by some of the gothic brands like Boz and Sheglit, then Meta, Moitie, Baby's more oldschool/cotton releases, AP, Baby 'trend' releases, with AATP and IW last. I'm ordering this by material and crafstmanship quality, as you said.

VM's materials and craftsmanship have never wavered, in all the time I've been buying from them I've never gotten an item I was disappointed with the quality of anything (I've bought dresses, blouses, hair accessories). I can't say that for any of the other brands I listed.

>>10545513
Agreed, but for all brands

>>10545473
I think it's fair to expect proper communication from a seller. It's not on you to 'assume' and 'hope' the item you paid for has been sent out. If you can't get ahold of the seller and can't confirm your item has been sent out, you are well within your rights to escalate after a few weeks of silence.

I want to get into classic lolita, particularly classic lolita, and I was wondering how accessible are brands like Mary Magdelene for a beginner? It seems like mary Magdelene's dresses are sold less in comparison to something like AP

>>10545585
Mary Magdelene has been closed for a few years, although they supposedly plan to open up again. Personally, I'm not holding my breath, but that means that not only are they not currently producing items, but anyone that owns MM pieces will likely be less willing to give them up.

So you're right, they don't come up often on the market anymore. Depending on what you're looking for exactly, JetJ and Victorian Maiden are both still active and I would say VM comes up for sale a little more often than JetJ. Also they come up for sale much more often on the Japanese market than the western one, in my experience, so learning to stalk the secondhand sites will be beneficial to you.

>>10545445
A lot of modern lolita has gone down in quality imo, older AP is definitely good though. As for buying new in the current year, I agree it's mostly brands like VM, Atelier Boz and Sheglit. I really don't like the quality of the new Moitie I've bought.

Has anyone purchased a good quality lolita apron that can actually be used in the kitchen? I'm a daily lolita but im getting sick of wearing an ugly normie apron over my dresses. Preferably something taobao or not extremely expensive as obviously it's going to end up getting dirtied, it just needs to look cute and be fairly thick.

>>10545619
i got one a nice one on ali. it's a good thick fabric with nice lace and they have a few more loliable ones on the store.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32706914098.html

What is Xianyu? I've tried googling it and I can't find anything. I know this is the stupidest fucking question, but I don't know where else to ask

>>10545628
Taobao's secondhand area

>>10545629
How do you access it?

>>10544735

>>10544735
Sorry for the late reply, and thank you so much for your long answer !

It's rather true that I like older sweet style, I guess I thinked it was more classic because of the colorway ( and I learned about lolita during the OTT sweet era ). I do like MM but I have a big ribcage so I thought it was silly to put a lot of it in the collage...

Thank you for your advice on the black dress. I already wear some j-fashion so lolita doesn't seem to be too out there for me but I will not be able to wear it daily, so I'm looking for a lolita wardrobe I can grow slowly with pieces I can make cohesive coords of. Maybe when I get more experience I will get main pieces in more daring colorway as long as I can make their matching blouse/accesories work with my non lolita wardrobe.

I didn't thinked about looking for accesories, I will also look into capsule wardrobe, I've heard a bit about it and it seem interesting for lolita !

To be frank I didn't dared to go in sales groups since I don't already wear lolita/ publicly seem to like jfashion, and wasn't sure if it was bad etiquette.

It's very kind of you to have linked the 2 dresses, I'm still a bit scared of ordering from outside of Europe but I will see after looking in facebook sales groups.

Sorry for the long answer and bad english.

>Be me, didn't care for Otome Nostalgia when it was announced or being talked about on the board
>Hear about The Rose of Versailles being mentioned alongside Revolutionary Girl Utana as badass shojo shows
>Pirate The Rose of Versailles
>Love The Rose of Versailles
>Start liking the big eyes and long lashes of Oscar and Marie
>Check on Otome Nostalgia
>No more Otome Nostalgia
>Cope by planning to buy all the Rose of Versailles stuff I can find on Amazon (including the facemasks)
>Otome Nostalgia pops up on Lacemarket
>Reevaluate if I really like Otome Nostalgia that much

Does anyone know if any other brands have released a retro anime print dress? Or collage dresses in general? I'm trying to figure out if I just like the print or the collage print. Or both

>>10546010
I like Otome Nostalgia because the busy-ness reminds me of things like Fortune Tarot and the new Horoscope one from Meta. Also I love the art style. Anyways, I haven't seen any similar vintage manga prints before. I ended up getting the skirt (somewhere in dhl hell rn) because the OP is just. A lot going on. I think buying the skirt, if one comes up, would be easier to coord and see if you truly like it. It seems to be really pretty but people keep coordinating it weirdly with like. Leopard shirts.

Is it worth it to buy tea party knockoff shoes on Aliexpress? I remember there used to be a lot of dupes but now it seems most results are catering to the insta/e-girl crowd (not mad).
I'm aware I could technically ask this in the Aliexpress thread but I wanted Lolitas opinions. Basically, where would you go to buy some cheap ass shoes? Thanks.

>>10546102
honeycherry has angelic imprint tea parties for like 20 bucks each

What do you do if the product you're shipping on Tenso isn't available on the website you bought it from anymore? Just link to the general website?

>>10543710
no shirring on the sleeves but maxicimam has some, they also have "lovely" size ones with bigger arms overall

>>10546010
I don't know of any other retro anime/manga prints specifically. JetJ has some vintage art collage prints (e.g. La fête de Saint-Valentin, Victorian Famille). Some other prints with a similar vibe in my opinion are BTSSB: Closed in the Playing Cards ~Bitter Sweet Memories~ and IW: Frederick Party

>>10546110
yeah, i’ve done that it’s really no big deal in my experience

>>10546102
There's still a bunch, just gotta use the right keywords. "lolita harajuku heels" tends to bring up good results.

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mLOzw4p

>>10546161
Cool, thanks!

Just about how much puff does this give? I want a petti that gives me just enought puff for the skirt not to look completely deflated, but not so much that I take much more space than a person wearing jeans and a t-shirt(this is for daily wear). If this petti is not the one for that, I would appreciate recommendations

I need some help.. this thing gapes on me? I am under the minimum measurements on lolibrary for it by 1 inch. I have the normal free size version.
but i could fit like 2 baguettes in the back,as the shirring gapes open and I’m not even stretching it. Is the shirring just broken? It has a lot stretch to it still.
I don’t have exactly this dress by IW but its the same shape and cut.
I put a thin blouse under it and that helped, but it still gapes. Are you supposed to wear these with thick balloon-y blouses?
I am thin but I’m not skinny, i thought this dress would fit me ;_;

>>10546571
Is it gaping only in the back? If there's not corset lacing, you could possibly have a seamstress add some? That's really the only thing I could think that would help.

Honestly just sounds like it's too big for you.

>>10546639
Yes the gaping is only in the back of it, the front looks fine on me.
I found i can shorten the straps by 2 inch as the waist is low on me. and that takes out a lot of gaping. I’ll have a seamstress look at it also to add corset lacing, thats a good idea! It only has a ribbon for the waist and no lacing in the back.
I got the dress for an amazing price and its old so i’ll alter it a little

>>10545007
Isn't it an anatomical heart? Where the hand is the heart and the fingers are blood vessels?

>>10545210
>not going to peel ;_;
Real leather or fabric. Fake leather will peel sooner or later.

>>10546262
It comes in 3 poof sizes if you buy on TaoBao (they have separate item pages for each poof width & length). I had the middle size and wore two of them daily, but if you really want to go fort "just not deflated" I think a single middle one or even the low poof one would do the job.

Question- if I have a Japanese address from tenso, can I make an account on AP Japan and buy with the address or will it not work because my card payment is from the states?

>>10546660

wtf no

>>10546708
AP japan literally wants you to use Tenso so its fine. If you have an issue its because your american card doesnt like it.

>>10546715
I think it's just an odd coincidence that at some angles it can look a little like an anatomical one lol

>>10546108
>>10546197
Thanks so much, really appreciate you.

How to avoid deodorant stains? My normie cloth doesn’t stained like my Lolita pieces does.

>>10546843
Stop using aluminium deodorant

>>10546843
>>10546846
This. I got an all natural deodorant for wearing with nice clothes. Amazon also has underarm pads that I haven’t tried, but have heard good things about.

>>10546843
>>10546846
it's either "smell good and stain your clothes" or "aluminum free deodorant but you smell like shit but at least your clothes won't get that stain now"

you can get rid of the stain with baking soda paste but you might want to test it on the waist ties to make sure you don't accidentally damage it further

>>10546861
How fucking much do you sweat? I don't have a problem with smell.

>>10546862
a normal amount? but the aluminum-free deodorants I've bought all smell bad and if they're unscented then I just smell bad. Sorry for....sweating?

>>10546864
Stop buying cheap deodorant then. Idk where you live but Native smells great and works great.

>>10546861
I have the same experience as you, anon. I don't sweat heavily, but I do start to smell if I don't have a proper aluminum deodorant on. Not a single natural deodorant I've tried actually works.

Every time this comes up, some anons like >>10546865 act like everyone's natural body chemistry is the same and they must work, but it's the truth, naturals just don't work for some of us.

>>10546865
That is the kind I currently use/own but yeah. Doesn't stain clothes but I do smell not so great.

>>10546868
Yup, exactly. And the scented aluminum-free ones just smell overly strong and bad.

>>10546843
Put your deodorant on when you go to bed at night, not when you wake up in the morning. It works better if you apply it at night anyway because your sweat glands aren't as active when you're asleep or some shit so it can sink in better. Also try switching to roll-on deodorant, Mitchum and Ban are good.

Source: Have hyperhidrosis, mitchum roll-on applied at at night saved my life

>>10546876
Just an FYI, I used to use Ban. Started using it around middle school and up until college when one day I started developing underarm rashes. I didn't think it was related since I'd been using it for years without problems but as soon as I switched deodorants the rash was gone forever. Dunno if they switched formulas or what but just watch out.

>>10546876
Hmm never heard the night trick before. I will give it a shot.

Is there a specific term for this style of bangs with long wispy pieces at the edges, or a term for the wispy pieces themselves?

>>10546914
these are hime bangs basically.
the term in english is framing pieces. blunt bangs with framing pieces.

>>10546843
You might use more deodorant than normal when you wear your lolita clothing. Maybe invest in underarm pads?

>>10546864
I live in a tropical area and sweat a lot. Personally my deodorant keeps me smelling fine for a few hours (about 6-8). I just carry a second stick and pack of wet wipes and clean up and reapply throughout the day. Also wear perfume, it'll mask you if you do smell.

>>10546864
I use the Arm and Hammer deodorant, its great and smells fresh!!

>>10546864
I thought natural deodorant was bullshit and didn't work for me either. A friend recommended I try the arm and hammer essentials and specified to only get the fresh or juniper berry scent. I reapply after about 6 hours but it's worth it and it smells nice.

>>10546843
Agree with what others have said about underarm guards. They're awesome and surprisingly common in clothing history. You can even cut up a pantiliner to fit under your sleeve.
If you know you tend to sweat a lot during meetups, you can also excuse yourself to the restroom to wipe off sweat with a wet towelette or soapy towel. Obviously reapply antiperspirant/deodorant afterwards.

>>10546843
If you're in the US, you could try Secret's clinical strength line. I've used the unscented/sensitive skin one for years and I live in the armpit of the south. Even when I've done manual labor outside for 12+ hours, I've always smelled fine when I get home at night.

I shower and apply it at night, though, as the instructions say. It may not work as well if you shower+apply it in the morning. I do find that if I wear tank tops or sleeves that are VERY baggy around the armpits, I start to smell faster.

Wtb otk (and higher) socks that aren’t brand, are thick and have cute loli-able designs for casual cords? I get blisters easily so need them to be thick.
I don’t want to buy random stuff from jp and find out they are super thin after waiting a month for them to get here

>>10547077
Sock Dreams

>>10547060
Was going to reply and suggest exactly this. Clincal strength deodorant that you can buy at any pharmacy/market works great. I still apply some deodorant in the AM for the nice smells, but the clinical stuff really stops any sweating.

Also, you may need to switch up the brand of clinical strength deo every few months, since your underarm biome can get used a certain aluminum compound. Switching to another brand with a slightly different formulation of aluminum works if that happens.

Finally, avoid Certain Dri. While that brand will prevent me from sweating for 72 hours straight in the middle of summer, it makes my underarms feel like a dragon is torturing my pits. I think it must be meant for dudes or ladies who don't shave their pits.

>>10547167
Ironically I was going to suggest certain dri wipes. I love them. Maybe you used them after you were freshly shaved and it caused irritation? I shave my pits and had no issues.

I like certain dri because if I don't sweat there is never any odor and I have darker skin and underarm hair so I don't have awkward white powder residue on my armpits and stubble in between shaves.

>>10547010
>>10547019
Have tried this one, doesn't work for me....

>>10547077
I really liked the socks I got from Enchanted Dreamwear on Etsy

>>10547079
They don't carry loliable designs at all, it's all basic or ita weeb tier stripes and shit

>>10547190
listen, this is going to sound weird but it's a serious life hack. salicylic acid kills the odor-causing bacteria on your armpits because it changes the pH. I started using stridex pads and my life has changed

What style is this sweater and what brand can i find more like it? Like, girly/cute tops with flowers and cats bunnies embroidered on it. I love this it’s so weird.
Tag says its by candy stripper but they don’t seem to make things like this besides this one sweater

i can’t decide on these two colors; i’m leaning more toward red but then the cream starts to look better. I do have darker, warm tones skin so maybe i should pick the one that best suites it.
Which one should I get?

>>10547691
Do you have more red accessories, or yellow ones?

Personally I think the print pops more on the yellow colorway, but also if you have a lot of red accessories they'll pop more worn with the yellow colorway, vs if you have yellow accessories already you'll be able to bring out the label color within the red colorway.

My 2cents

>>10547195
This, or just really good soap helps too. You can use whatever girly soap you want on the rest of your body, but for your underarms, make sure to get rid of any buildup and dead skin with a strong bar soap like Irish Spring or Dial.

>>10545632
You access Xianyu via the app and its available on iOS and Android. You have to have an account to use it as well, so if you can I'd recommend connecting your Taobao account to it if you already have one. If you want to buy from Xianyu, you'll need a SS for it.

What kind of phone do you anons recommend for taking better Lolita coordinate shots/photos? I've been told a Google Pixel & the iPhone 11/12 can work, but I would like other suggestions if you all have any.

>>10547167
Aluminum chloride, the ingredient in certain dri and most actual prescription strength antiperspirants, reacts with water to make hydrochloric acid which burns. You have to make sure your armpits are completely dry before you apply. When I used to use prescription antiperspirant I'd have to blow dry my pits then stand in front of a fan while waiting for the antiperspirant to dry. Inconvenient to do every other night but worth it before an event.

Would it still be lolita if you had brand in an outfit, but a super casual way like pic related? hair would be in a nice braid with a ribbon maybe.
I don’t see anyone doing such coords so far. I want to do them and post to my local comm, but i don’t want to be ita.
Its not the best outfit but hopefully my idea got across?

>>10547857
Brand doesn't automatically make the outfit lolita. That said, I think this is an ok casual coord to wear out.

If you're posting to get concrit, I don't see a problem with it. But otherwise, if you're worried about being seen as "ita", I would be cautious. There's plenty of things to nitpick on, like the pinks clashing and the chunky jk shoes.. etc. so if you're feeling sensitive, don't bother. Just enjoy your clothes.

>>10547865
I want to find the fine line between being able to wear it outside normally and having things coord! I don’t like mary janes or petticoats, so i hoped the loafers would be a good alternative.
I would post in my local comm to get concrit ,but i don’t want to be put in the ita thread here. Someone in my city egl comm keeps putting pictures of people into the ita thread here and everyone shits on them :/
Well i guess i’ll just have to be brave and hide the ita thread from now on

>>10547868
That sounds more of a problem with those people posting photos, than it is a problem with you. So yes, I think it's a fine idea to hide the ita thread if you can't stomach it. It's mostly to laugh at anyways.

Loafers are okay, it's just those ones are more associated with the jk style than lolita. There are some loliable loafers from axes femme and amavel at times. You could also invest in shoe clips to make shoes look more "lolita".
If you're not a fan of mary janes, you could look into boots or oxfords (if you're wearing classic) instead. Vintage shoes are often an option too.

Unfortunately if you don't like petticoats, I don't have much advice. Lolita has a very particular silhouette (except a few oldschool styles) that has to be achieved by petticoats or cage skirts. Sure, you can wear the skirt without a petticoat, but it won't look lolita, and will look "off". I suggest looking into otome style instead?

>>10547857
>>10547868

If you want to go petticoatless, the usual is do it with longer/tea-length dresses/skirts that don't have much poof to them in the first place. Since people don't expect them to be poofy, it's less obvious when there isn't a petticoat. So this part would be pretty easy to do with IW or Moitie, for sweet there's some specific Baby/aatp long dresses that are low poof.

All of these brands would be a complete departure from the style you posted, though.

For AP and Meta in particular, they usually use a lot of fabric in their skirts. If you don't use a petticoat, it just looks like a lump of fabric around your legs, that's why it usually looks like crap, no matter what your intentions were. And that's probably why people don't wear them that way.

For non-maryjane shoes, I'd just go with the plainest normie pair of shoes rather than the pair you posted. It's not because they're loafers, they just don't really look loliable.

Is it true that kumya rucksacks can carry less than the pochettes?
I'd be happy with either as long as they can fit a long wallet, a phone, and maybe a couple of makeup stuffs (compact cushion and lipstick).

>>10547888
I don't think any stuffed animal brand bag can carry that much. You're supposed to carry a plush bag and a regular bag and if you just wear a plush bag, you'll store most of your stuff in your dress pockets (which are massive, at least AP's are).

>>10547888
Rucksacks carry more than pochette. I have every size of Usakumya beside the largest and it carries just a bit more. I’m not the type of person to carry my whole house with me so it suits me just fine. I would recommend a normal bag as well if you’re the kind to carry such.

>>10547899
AP dress pockets aren't small but they aren't huge comoared to other normie dress pockets either tho.

But in response to anons question I think the pochettes hold more than the rucksacks because the head and limbs are the only stuffed part and the body is empty but it opens at the head so you get the full length of the pochette, while for rucksacks the body is stuffed too and the stuffing means you kind of have to squish things a bit to get them to fit with all the cushion and padding in there despite the pocket being a reasonable size.

I prefer pockets for easy access without having to zip or unzip stuff though. I always add pockets to my dresses that have none or only one for convenience.

Is there a way I can fix or cover up this peeling?

>>10547944
Nah this is fucked.

>>10547857
>>10547865
Back in the day this is the only kind of coord most westerners had. I still love it but please use a petti or it's not lolita

>>10547965
>use a petti or it isnt lolita
now this is just false

>>10547944
Put glue on top then leather paint

>>10547944
use fabric glue

>>10547698
>>10547195
>>10547169
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>>10546843
gulls please try the Kosas aha deoderant. Shit is bomb

>>10547874
>>10547886

Thanks anons, this is very helpful! I will go with the longer tea lengths.
I thought about what you both said and came up with pic related which i think looks a lot better than my first collage! Couldn’t find better matching socks, but i think this is a big step up.
I think i could do something like this. I do like IW a lot so it’s no problem to give up on the above-the-knee skirts that need the poof (i have the chocolate skirt by AP, why didn’t they make a longer version ;_;)
I like brand a lot for some reason, even if i don’t want to wear it as normally intended. I think its just with how thick and cute it is

>>10548007
this outfit legit looks cute

ID on this AP jacket? Pink + coat tags on lolibrary bring up bupkis.

>>10547980
Look like shit if you want but the vast majority of lolita skirts are cut for a petti and if they aren't then they generally don't have a lolita aesthetic but rather fairy kei or some other style

Saw this in the bad wigs thread and wanted to live my OTT sweet dream wearing this wig. But, I can't seem to find any clip on ponytails that have that poof factor near the base. If they're not clip ons then they're probably those draw string ponytails that are latched onto a bun. Anyone know any good sellers if this? Or wigs in general?

>>10548189
Nah you’re just blind https://lolibrary.org/items/ap-dramatic-girl-coat-glitter-waffle

>>10546010
You can still buy Otome Nostalgia from Atelier Pierrot

>>10548205
i think this is a prisila photo.
i've done this before with link below
https://www.prisila.jp/fs/prisila/morigami/VM-03 they are the ponytail kind, but a bit bigger with much bigger poof!

Trying to enter my tenso address into closetchild so I can continue my shopping addiction, what should I put in the furigana/"フリガナ" name field? Just my name in english again?

>>10548248
I think they want you to put the katakana characters/pronunciation of your name in Japanese

>>10548248
Sure, but if it doesn't work, just feed your name to a katakana converter/generation online.

>>10548249
Ah ok, thank you, idk why my dumb ass thought there was some special script for furigana.

Now dumb question number two: In katakana, should I put my last name first and first name second, or just exactly how I put it in the english name field (first name then last name)? I figure it'll be first then last to reflect the english name field but just wanna be extra sure.

>>10548007
This looks cute :) Hope you have fun with the fashion!

Why exactly office blouses can't be worn with lolita? I mean, you can answer that they lack lace and frills but many lolita blouses are very simple, so I feel like the only issue is pointy collar. So, what's so scary about office blouses?

>>10548491
capitalism

>>10548491
Pointy collar, yucky fabric that doesn't suit the feeling of lolita, and the general fit of it, for me.

>>10548491
You see, first lolitas used infantile image as a protest against society norms. And office blouse is a symbol of adult life and adult boring Job

>>10548491
A seasoned lolita could pick out an office blouse to use in a coord and it would probably work. A new lolita, aka the person most likely to buy an office blouse with lolita, wouldn’t know the kind of details to look for and would probably pick one that looks like shit.

It’s discouraged because it’s mostly newfags who want to try it and they will fail 100% of the time and look ita

>>10548491
Even the most normie of lolita blouses have higher quality and more detail than office blouses and it's painfully obvious you've never handled a brand blouse in person. They're also cut differently, to conform with the natural waist and be shorter than typical blouses to look smoother under JSKs and for easy wearing with petticoats and bloomers. Even long sleeves typically have a slight puff at the shoulder. Collar is fitted close to the neck rather than loose and always buttons all the way up.

Non-lolita blouses really only work when they come from vintage fashion or other jfashion, but newfags always fuck that up because they're never worn burando and think all blouses is the same. Taobao blouses work in a pinch but material is often shit.

>>10548491
what other anons have said already. office blouses, even ones that look loliable like pic related (from aliexpress) aren't structured enough.but many noobs would probably not understand the difference. lolita feminine and "normie" feminine are completely different.

>>10548491
It's all about the details, anon. Even lolita blouses that lack lace and frills have other details to distinguish them from a bog-standard white oxford button-down.

>different sleeves
Obviously officewear doesn't have hime sleeves or puffy cap sleeves, or shirring details, but even simple long-sleeved blouses are distinct in cut. Most lolita blouses have puffier sleeves than an office blouse, either around the shoulder or cuff or both. Almost all of them have some sort of ruffle or frill at the cuff. Even the most plain lolita blouses I could find had some sort of wrist ruffles or lace.

>different collars
Brands don't release blouses with plain pointed collars. Blouses have either high necks or peter pan collars, as a general rule. For styles with pointed collars, they're generally much larger (like exaggerated bat wings) or else have some sort of lace or embellishment.

>different bodice cuts
Because brands generally take a one-size-fits-all approach, there's really only four basic bodice cuts in lolita. There's poofy fully-shirred bodice ones (ex: Meta's Square Neck Shirring Blouse), loose fitting square/sack blouses (ex: MmM's Paisley Bat Collar Blouse, AP's Holy Ribbon Blouse and Lovely De Chine Blouse), and blouses that use flexible elements like shirring, corset lacing, or waist-ties to help create shape (ex: AtePie's Lumiere Blouse, Baby's Princess Manon Blouse).

And the least common is blouses that have no shirring or waist ties, and rely on tailoring to create a slim feminine shape. Office wear only takes this 4th approach, while it's fairly uncommon in lolita.

The other major bodice cut difference is hem length and style. Lolita blouses generally hit near the natural waist and many are designed to be worn untucked. Normie blouses are much longer.

>all the other details
Pintucks, buttons, ribbons, embroidery, lace, bows, prints, special fabric, etc.

Newfag with shopping services here! Anyone who uses Tenshishop and can give a rough estimate for how long her turn around has been recently? I saw some anons talking about her being unresponsive in another thread, so I'd like to see if I should go with something else or not before submitting an order.

>>10547857
I think this outfit is cute for casual. Maybe throw on a black beret to tie in the academic look of the shoes. And wear a petti with it.

>>10548007
This isn't lolita, but it's still very cute.

>>10548516

aw man that looks cute tho

i don't wear much OL normie with lolita these days, but i think they have their place in toned down coords (think like going to dinner with the parents)

>>10548516
Blouses like this work in classic lolita though and people like FR wear them all the time.

>>10548739

i mean FR barely wears lolita these days tho. But yeah in the old days she did. Axes Femme has a frillier feel though so I tend towards them these days, especially with CC just swimming in literal tonnes of AF cutsews.

>>10548540
About two weeks ago I requested a buy from Mercari - Tenshi responded in a few hours (ordered in the evening US time, got her reply shortly after I woke up, so she responded same-day JP time). Still waiting for my invoice but her website says it will take a few weeks to invoice and ship due to backlog and volume.

Tenshi has always been great, so I'd say go for it. Just be patient while waiting for her to invoice/ship. She always updates her website with expected turnaround time for shipping and to notify customers about holidays.

>>10548742
Thanks anon! I will do it then. Really hoping it works out!

I bought some cheap silk wafuku so I'm prioritising the convenience of washing at home over the lifespan of the item. What would be the best way to wash it at home? I'm guessing woolite and hand washing?

The most annoying thing about buying things to make up a coord is finding socks imo, but maybe that's just the babylita in me, probably in part because I buy exclusively secondhand and refuse to use Taobao because I'm unsure about their ethics, therefore I'll assume that most of their stuff is made by Chinese children in a sweatshop, so I won't support Taobao stores. How do you guys go about finding secondhand socks.? or is it just patience? I tend to use tenshishop to see the Japanese secondhand market, as well as the obvious western secondhand sites

What are some good places to buy fabric for lolita crafts/sewing?

>>10548849
When i just started i mostly used knitted tights i already owned before starting lolita

>>10547857
This is very similar to what I wear the majority of the time going out. I consider it casual lolita but if someone else considers it not lolita due to wearing no petti and loafers, it's not going to hurt my feelings. Some skirts drape better without a petti and some just hang oddly, I find it helps to have puffy bloomers to give just a little lift.

>>10548849
if you're dead set on only secondhand it's just patience. sometimes people post sock lots on fril/mercari/LM. they're usually a good deal so the person doesn't have to sell all the socks individually. I'd keep an eye out for those.

I was hoping someone could help me figure out what this may say? I love the skirt but can't get my head around the writing

>>10549059
"Pretty actress"

Been away for a few years.. does MLT still make the best pettis?

>>10549070
I think so, I prefer them in organza. Can anyone vouch for Cream and Sugar pettis? That's the newest brand. I saw someone sell a Cream and Sugar because it was "too poofy".

>>10549059
>>10549063
man I love engrish

>>10548849
Good brand socks will always go fast on the secondhand market. It literally is just patience and persistence.

Sometimes I go as far to think that a good sock collection is more impressive than owning some coveted print, because socks are the most used, and most likely to be damaged thing in lolita.

So, does anyone know the chinese term for these shoes. I asked in the thread, but figured I can also try here. I am so desperate, I want to befriend some chinese person lol.

>>10549070
I have two organza cotton candy pettis. I bought them two years ago and they're still pretty huge!

Can someone please post that brush that was recommended to the anon who needed to brush out her kumya roomwear set after washing it? (That makes the matted faux fur look sleek and new again?)

Is there a way to view JetJ's weibo page without having to log in?
I used to have an account but I can't log in anymore for whatever reason.

Someone on LM asked me to measure out the max measurements for a dress after I sent them the measurements from the original listing. I don’t want anyone to be mad that I “gave them incorrect measurements” if it doesn’t fit. What should I do? To be fair, the original listing didn’t say what the max measurements were but the dress has full back shirring and the unstretched measurements from the listing are already pretty forgiving. Am I blowing this too out of proportion? I hate doing all this extra work when they can go check the original listing themselves

>>10549432
Don't respond. I feel like this is an easy way to have someone blame you and create a problem, when in fact they are probably too fat for the dress and are grasping at anything to believe they will fit in it.

>>10549432
If its a piece that doesn't have exact measurements listed anywhere I don't think it's too much to ask to have you put a ruler up to the dress. Don't do it if you don't want to, and clarify that your measurement is a best guess, but this was pretty common practice back in the old days when shirred dresses only had one measurement listed and you never knew if it was the min, the max, or suggested.

Does anyone know any j-fashion that resembles maid dresses or the maid aesthetic? I'm looking for some ideas.

>>10549524
I mean, maid lolita... just maid style stuff like milky ange. There is a lot you can look around for. Maid cosplays even

Not sure if this is better suited for the old school thread, but would pink mary janes look "off" in old school? There's a pair up on LM atm and I'm not sure if I should get it?

>>10549540
They look like supportive footwear, but no pink mary janes wouldn't look off if you know what you're doing

>>10549540
No, but I do think something with a more rounded toe would suit old school better.

>>10549540
fyi they’re from hot topic

>>10549549
https://www.hottopic.com/product/pastel-pink-mary-janes/14121983.html

And they're having a flash sale, but it's presale so it won't ship right away.

>>10549543
>supportive footwear

Can't unsee now, thanks anon

>>10549545
Thanks, do you know any good places to buy larger size mary janes?

>>10549661
I like Demonia and Koi footwear but it might be more rare to find them in colors like pink. Not sure what your personal stance is on Dolls Kill but I know they stock a lot of different types/colors of mary janes up to like size 12. They stock Demonia and Koi footwear too.

What’s a good shopping service to buy from Mercari? The fact that you can’t buy some items through Buyee if you’re outside of Japan is lame.

>>10549515
This. Just caution them your measurements are amateur so beware if they're close to the max.

>>10549168
are you looking for these specific ones or just the general search term for 3 strap shoes?

>>10549685
The term three strap shoes. I've use that term, and I cannot find anything. The store from the picture I posted no longer has it in my size, unfortunately.

>>10549671
Whiterabbitexpress

>>10549665
What, not anon but whats wrong with Dolls Kill?

>>10549719
Dolls kill steals art, has a number of racist and cultural appropriation clothings like making slutty ‘native american’/‘chinese’ qipao and calling it exotic, weird pro rape shirts saying ‘dead girls can’t say no’....
the owner have said a number of things like supporting police brutality
It is the brand known for e whores to wear and it’s cheap and made in china.

Also, all their models seem to be on drugs and the whole thing is unsavory

>>10549728
big oof, thanks

>>10546010
Anon, they just announced they'll be restocking the entire collection soon! I, much like you, slept on it and just turned on notifications for their ig posts so I don't miss out again.

Has anyone had any customs problems when shipping items from Japan to the US with Fedex?

I was told by one SS to not use Fedex because of that but I already committed with another SS to use Fedex. They want me to fill out my own customs sheet.

>>10549758
I had issues with taobao orders and FedEx; my address used the full word "Street" instead of the postal abbreviation "ST", and FedEx in the US didn't deliver it, then called me to confirm my address and had to come back to deliver later when their scan system didn't recognize my address properly. And then they tried to charge me and/or the SS a fee for an address change when the address was correct but just not abbreviated. So now I use DHL and Yamato (which is done through UPS in the states) only because I'm worried it will cause my SS in Japan or China a headache if FedEx fucks up again.

What do you do first, makeup or dressing up?

>>10549168
The shop is called Cupid’s Heart on Taobao

>>10549866
Don’t pull white blouses and $300 dress over makeup face unless you like stains

>>10549866
I personally do my makeup first because it's kind of a part of my morning routine. Also, washing in the morning->dressing up->back to the bathroom seems tedious.

But I get where >>10549876 is coming from. Though, blouses open and close at the front so you don't have to drag your face through the neck hole like with a t-shirt.

>>10549866
Makeup first, but dressing up makes it easier to match makeup. Happened once or twice where my makeup was too light/dark for the dress I was wearing.

>>10549876
I got foundatuon on one of my dresses before because of a makeup splattering incident... sometimes there's no winning, at least pull on makeup stains are on the inside of the dress

Does anyone have experience dyeing clothes black? I often get the impulse to buy things that don't come in darker colorways and just dye them because I like the style/cut, is it doable? I'm talking about small solid pieces like corsets and blouses

>>10549886
I have a big head and long eyelashes. there is no blouse that accommodates that without smearing risk, unless i wear a weirdly open one

>>10549895
Girl thats why you get a makeup bib or drape a cloth over yourself à la barbershop

I got an e-mail from DHL about my closetchild order and my address.. is very weird. They repeated the suburb (blue), city (red), and state (green) three times. Nothing's wrong with my profile on closetchild.

Is this closetchild's mistake? Should I reach out to them and ask? Or is this a one-off mistake with DHL, and not worry about it?

>>10549895
Just put a plastic bag over your head when you put your dress on. They tell you not to do that as a kid but as an adult I think you can handle putting a bag on your head for five seconds and then remembering to take it off so you don’t suffocate.

I got an e-mail from DHL about my closetchild order and my address.. is very weird. They repeated the suburb (blue), city (red), and state (green) three times. Nothing's wrong with my profile on closetchild.

Is this closetchild's mistake? Should I reach out to them and ask? Or is this a one-off mistake with DHL, and not worry about it?

>>10549897
You can't color synthetic fabrics, so everything would have to be 100% cotton or similar. Buttons have to be changed, ribbons have to be changed, zippers have to be changed and lining won't take color.

>>10549976
A gull managed to dye her brown Elizabeth OP to black a long time ago before the rereleases. It turned out quite successful but I presume that's a rarity.

>>10549974
If you go to the DHL site your address should be fine

>>10549997
This is on the DHL invoice

Is paisley pattern appropriate for a lolita

>>10550063
jesus christ no

Vaguely related to Jfashion because she used to be a big name in lolita, but what the hell happened to Kitade Nana? She used to be everywhere but now she kind of fizzled out.
I know she had a weird edgy phase but now she looks like she got a nose job. Man I just miss her cute style and music.

Is this ita for an OTT sweet coord?

>>10550163
it looks so similar to the AP ears so i personally cant stand em. but to answer your question; no. Unless you wear it with a dress with no bunnies in it. then ita

>>10549976
>You can't color synthetic fabrics

Why do retards keep spreading this misinformation? There are dyes specifically for synthetics now.

>>10550063
I could see it work in jewel tones as a blouse in some kind of IW halterneck situation, but no.

>>10550163

The ears themselves look alright, but I'd skip some of those bows, they look cheap.

>>10549897
unlike what >>10549976 idiot said, the issue with dying things is that there are often different types of materials being used in the item. cotton lace, poly thread, blend fabric. all of those have different types of dye you need to use, so most of the time you can dye part of it but not all. in my experience the threads are usually not the same material as the fabric on the dress, so you can still see whatever their original color is. basically it's a huge pain.

will this look like shit without a petticoat? if i want to do otome style? The dogs are so cute

>>10550296
even in otome, light petticoats are used. It's gonna look awkward and flat without some kind of oomf.

sorry for the newfag tier question but has there been a /cgl/ meetup, like how /fa/ and /fit/ had meetups?

>>10550305
There's been cgl meetups at conventions, but there's not really a need for one outside of that, those are just regular lolita meets

>>10550302
I see, then what types of brand skirts could be worn without petti if any? How should the shape look?
I know i could just buy etc or milk but there’s always something wonky with their prints.
I have pic related and it looks nice i think without petti? but i’m down to branch out beyond ap miniskirts

>>10550063
>>10550248
Moitie released a paisley version of their bat collar blouse recently. But it only came in Men's size, so I'm not sure if anyone has made it work in a lolita coordinate.

>>10550316
even picrel would look better with some kind of poof. the fairy kei/leg avenue kind of pettis work cutely for casual/otome imo

>>10550319
I’m the weirdo anon who doesn’t like pettis

i’m not even going for a j fash/cgl look at this point anymore i guess. but I still want to look cute and wear the skirts appropriately.

>why buy brand even
I am short jp size and like the cute prints. And i want to experiment

Pic rel is how i usually style it with some mary janes if that helps

>>10550322
You sound incredibly ita

>>10550324
Girl how am i ita if i’m not even trying to be or calling myself a lolita
Maybe i’ll just look at etc or jane marple again

>>10550324

Nta but it looks fine and she's not calling it lolita anyways

>>10550322
petticoats don't have to be huge and annoying, just having something under a skirt so it doesn't stick or go inbetween your legs when you walk. i have a shitty hot topic petti i use as more of a slip than for poof.

Where can I find good content about handmade lolita pieces? Besides the handmade thread and that Facebook group by MCB, I cannot find it anywhere.

>>10550331
Actually that makes sense. I didnt think about the skirt going between your legs thing. Since i like the op dog skirt so much, i will get a shitty thin petticoat from somewhere

>>10550339
just make sure the material is nice and soft so it doesn't irritate your legs. Maybe even just looking into normie vintage stuff to find something more like a slip with crinoline at the bottom to suit your needs?

>>10550343
Thanks anon i will do that! I found pic rel on a quick search which seems pretty good actually , has some shape but not poofy , looks comfortable and i can def shorten it!
I am very excited now my skirts options have widened considerably

>>10550350
maybe look around a bit more to see what other options are out there

>>10549980
I was considering doing that to a BW Elizabeth JSK set but a gull talked me out of it. Now I'm giving it another consideration

>>10550398
do it and share the results

>>10550350
why don't you just wear mori?

>>10550296
You could wear it without a petticoat, but without the poof to flare out the skirt, you might not be able to see the full design. (Which may defeat the purpose if you like the dogs.)

>>10550403
I know this is the stupid questions thread and all but mori really doesn't look anything like casual otome or whatever anon is describing above and you probably shouldn't be giving fashion advice

>>10550367
Will do for sure! I think that one would ruin the pleats/folds effect i want

>>10550403
I like sweets themed candy stuff which isn’tori at all. Basically my ideal is something pic related. but q pot is $$$ so its going slowly. (If I wanted to be full lolita, you bet i’d be all over sugary carnival however)

>>10550415
For sure i will be getting a small petti cause i love the dogs. Thanks everyone i learned a lot and my closet is going to be adorable

>>10550423
closetchild is drowning in that kind of stuff at a decent price

>>10550423
Seems like ETC and Milk is up your alley

>>10543645
Anyone know where to buy oldschool style socks?

>>10543645
I hear a ton of people here talk about how much they hate underskirts/how bad they look... but I'm rather tall, and a bunch of the pieces I like are a bit too short on me. How can I include an underskirt and make it not look like shit?

>>10550498
I'm 171cm, they're better received now than they were a decade ago

I bought black & white skirts from taobao, just try to make your underskirt line up with the hem of your dress to make it blend as much as possible. Get colors to match. Try not to mix ivory and white unless it works with your coord

>>10550498
The issue with underskirts is that they often dont actually fit the skirt of the dress. Go back and look at the oot classic outfits from years ago, you will see that the length got longer but the underskirts usually just hung down and there is a gap between the 2 pieces. It looks like a lampshade. It also only is good for adding maybe an inch or 2 more, it isnt going to work if it is any longer.

Also showing leg is nice, you should own that leggy.

>>10550498
>>10550525
I totally agree with this advice; I think the upper limit to how many layers of ruffles you can get away with adding is 3 and no more, but it really only looks good when it's fewer, less detectable.

J-Fashion Stupid Questions Thread!

>>10550489
BABY's torchon lace socks

Does anyone know if theres’s a version of Baby’s dessert OP that’s made of a plain fabric and not the dotted one?

this is my first time ordering from Closet Child, due to rona is overseas orders completely out of the question for USA? I can't tell if I'm misreading the jp post website, it seems like only letters are being accepted?

>>10550322
It looks fine, but you aren't going to have much in the way of lolita. You could pull off AP miniskirt, and you could maybe pull off salopettes if you hate petticoats, otherwise the skirt is going to look like shit.

You could try nanchette.

Most lolita brand's skirts, outside the occasional miniskirt, will look weird, wrinkly, and flat without the petticoat because they're kind of designed like poodle skirts.

>>10550305
There's no real need, especially not with j-fash. /cgl/ has had meetups in the past, but they are usually only cosplayers at conventions. There's no real need for a /cgl/ meetup because most in the fashion know each other on other social media and chat sites.

>>10550627
cc ships via DHL. there's a lower flat rate for <2kg and a higher flat rate for 2-4kg. you can find the page that specifies the rates or put some heavy shit like shoes in your cart to see the shipping price change. sometimes their weight estimates are just estimates and you pay for the <2kg shipping but then they send you a second invoice for the difference of the more expensive shipping.

>>10550633
Seconding this. A few times I tried wearing lolita dresses casually without a petticoat and it looked godawful, I had to put at least a small petti on. Some few brands might be okay without, like JetJ is sometimes okay, but if you're looking at AP, you really need a petti unless it's a miniskirt or salopette like the person I'm replying to said

>>10550423
How do you feel about salopettes? A lot of the sweet themed prints have salopettes and many of them don’t need a petti and are a non-lolita cut but a lolita print

Do work overknees from Jane Marple, ETC, Pink House and similar lesser used brands for bigger calves?
I have no problems with AP, IW and Meta but with Heart E and Baby (pre 2010). I recently bought from Enchanted Dreamwear which also barely fit. I owned AP replicas too and there were also not very flexible.

I appreciate every suggestion.

What is the proper jp term for rectangle headdresses when searching for secondhand stuff?

Does anyone own this bag? Can you fit more stuff into it than the Kumya pochettes/backpacks?