/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

starting the thread off with some classic Sugary Carnival inspo spam

>>10518023
>>10518027
M8 these are god awful......

>>10518029
they said it was inspo, I guess some of it is inspo to be better than itas of yore

>>10518029
the second one is off the wall experimental but the black SC coord is fine

>>10518023
>>10518027
>>10518079
>>10518084
These are terrible, get better taste

>>10518079
That unbrushed k8 wig is fine? Fix your eyes anon.

>>10518088
>>10518089
you're obviously new and don't know anything about OTT sweet

>>10518094
I know how to brush and take care of my wigs kek

>>10518117
Yo, please someone spill the tea on this girl. I can't remember her IG account but she went coo coo crazy going trans, no?

>>10518155
Uh... no? you might be thinking of the wrong person

>>10518111
The trend in 2010 was backcombed to shit twintails to achieve the most possible volume, you must be new

>>10518168
Nope, I think her online handle was Squiggly something or Alien Doll. She had pretty cute coords during this time and I think she was in that documentary with Lor.

>>10518168
Yep, it's Aliendoll on IG. Crazy how much her style has changed and time was not kind to her. Shame actually.

I miss lolitas wearing eye makeup and not shaving off their chins and jaws in pictures

Holy shit this thread is making me sad and nostalgic. I don't know how to feel about the AP sweet boom cuz I just know the coords newfags and trenders make will never hold a candle to the 2010 sweet era.
>>10518184
Ana Asuka always makes me depressed.

>>10518200
yeah the beauty trends of 2020 don't mesh well with the 2010 aesthetic. i hope eyemakeup becomes popular again in japan soon.

What are some taobao or indie releases that come close to capturing that aesthetic? The closest I've seen is this CC Cat release.

>>10518192
guess I just don't consider someone cutting their hair and changing their legal name to their nickname as going "coo coo crazy" and lolita hasn't been their main style in years and years

>>10518244
No, no I do for sure. Mental illness is strong with this one. Sad really.

This style is what got me into this fashion, but nowadays I just think it's "meh". I'm glad some people keep it alive though.

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>>10518013
where can you get those big pigtail wigs? cosplay wigs just dont have he same puff

>>10518192
I used to look up to her coords a lot, sad to know that she became a gender snowflake.

>>10518111
ok conlita

>>10518400
Prisila wigs

>>10518111
That was the style you dipshit

>>10518422
I think she transitioned her bad looks could be becouse of the hormones

>>10518183
God I hated her style and her makeup was the worse! I don’t know how she got so popular. So glad I don’t see her shit spammed everywhere anymore.

>>10518206
The current makeup trend would be ナメクジメイク, which is OTT eyebag creases to the point it looks like slugs, you don't really want their current makeup trends in Lolita.

>>10518217
Doesn't To Alice make tons of stuff like that?

>>10518487
Her makeup is definitely cursed, and I genuinely do not understand the Piglet plush here.

>>10518489
This looks so gross. And it’s yet another thing about imitating the random ugly traits of westerners, like the double eyelid fad. Who tf decided having thinner skin around your eyeball than Asians usually have was something attractive

>>10518217
Just some random info, but I own the KC of this series in green and it matches the mint color way Toy Doll Box perfectly.

>>10518489
>>10518515
I think this would be cute without the alien tier shoop.

either way there has to be a happy medium between no eyemake and dramatic eyebag looks

>>10518528
I think this make up is perfect actually. But I think it won't look great with everyone.

>>10518515
>random ugly traits of westerners
nothing to do with westerners or thin skin, it's just a new name for the old korean aegyo sal trend that emulates the appearance of puffy eyes when smiling as it's seen as youtful

>>10518585
I had this saved just for you

>>10518585
>aegyo sal
It’s actually to make the eyes look bigger, like everything about Korean/Japanese eye makeup.

>>10518017
I only wear goth but I’m stoked for super sweet pastel OTT to make a comeback. It’s so iconic and the colors are just so much fun

>>10518606
You're wrong. It means cute fat in Korean or something similar and is about looking like you're smiling and cute, not just bigger sized eyes.

>>10518601
I'm nonwhite and also not Asian and have huge "tear bags"/aegyo sal naturally no matter how much I depuff. Everyone's not trying to look white, you all age like milk anyway.

>>10518606
>make eyes look bigger, like everything about Korean/Japanese eye makeup

to tackle this more specifically, there are Japanese eye trends like tsuri and tare eyes that aren't about eye size but the personality your eyes communicate via how you line them, pointed up and cat eye for a certain look that's playful and pointed down and droopy to communicate softness, none of which have anything directly to do with eye size and came from anime tropes, not white people.

>>10518601
Bottom woman is smiling which accentuates them and top pic is airbrushed as fuck

less makeup talk more OTT sweet posting

does anyone know exactly where OTT sweet comes from? what made AP decide to start taking a more decora and fairy kei influence?

>>10518668
>what made AP decide to start taking a more decora and fairy kei influence?
I wouldn't call anything worn by the official models inspired by that, they would have done the same stuff way earlier if they would have had the sources for it, but manufacturing printed clothes of that quality wasn't as accessible back then.

>>10518672
I think these pieces take heavy fairy kei or atleast a non-lolita influence

>>10518639
>not everyone is trying to look white
This.

Some Asian people also have surgery to look like other Asian people. I.e. the ones with monolids getting double eyelid surgery.

>>10518672
I can't find the second page, but this spread on deco-lolita from KERA featured AP dresses and Maki herself so it's safe to say AP knew about it

>>10518690
>>10518690
>>10518672
And the ad for Milky Planet with it's abundance of bows seems to take a deco influence

>>10518668
Decora and fairy kei were the jfashion a lot of lolitas were also into. AP made a lot of stuff for fairy kei at the time. It was really common for people to mix and match stuff from different fashions. Decora was stupidly popular and mixed with lolita the same way larme influenced lolita styles. There even was an overlap with himekaji and lolita

>>10518693
I meant himegyaru not himekaji

>>10518693
the hime/lolita crossover was such a good time

>>10518697
>>10518694
not this shit again.

>>10518672
I think it’s just that lolita tends to go along with wider trends in j fashion in general, and decora and fairy kei were extremely popular at that time

>>10518697
2008-2012 are the Jfashion golden years. so much inspiration coming from different areas. lolita, gyaru, fairy kei, decora, they all fed off eachother.

now there's not many other styles holding strong besides lolita.

>>10518700
too bad lolita is going the same way gyaru did.

>>10518698
it's objectively true that there was a little bit of crossover. >>10518687 this ad spread is undeniably inspired by gyaru and ageha style. AP dresses were often featured in ageha. there were many girls in japan who wore both styles.

>>10518687
Ugh I just want to BE these girls.
I wish Prisila still made some of their older wig/hair piece styles. I've scooped up what I can, but it's depressing not being able to buy much new from the site because all the modern styles are too mature and boring.

>>10518703
no i mean the annoying neogal anons are going to come out of the woodwork and bitch.

>>10518704
a lot of their wigs are still the same model only styled differently. also check fril.

>>10518705
sorry to be defensive anon, i'm so tired of anons who know nothing about jfashion trying to talk out their asses

>>10518709
don't worry babe. also same! there's whole articles in my mountain of popteen about gals in lolita, but don't even try to tell noobs that.

>>10518710
i would love to see those articles if you have any scanned!! i love it when jfashion communities intersect.

>>10518705
I've been in lolita for a decade. I hated and still hate decora and gyaru. Jfashion blends, sorry you're upset about it

>>10518713
that anon doesn't disagree with you.

>>10518711
I wonder if replica pony bags will come back again?

>>10518717
I hope not. Those legs are wrecked.

>>10518713
Then why are you in the ott sweet thread

>>10518734
AP probably wouldn't be able to make a pony bag that looked as good as that replica these days, kek

With the new rereleases coming, do you think AP will consider more rereleases of prints from this era if they do well? Thinking of milky planet, decoration dream, etc. Maybe a milky chan if they really want to appease the masses.

>>10518717
I wonder if anyone else here was actually around when cgl made derpy chan

>>10518765
Likely

>>10518184
how do I get buns to look like this???

>>10518846

>>10518810
Me! The good old days

>>10518810
Me as well. Miss those days. Surprisingly the board was overall less petty and had a lot more quality images stored and posted.

>>10518765
AP avoiding velvet releases HURTS. I wish they'd shoot another Carnival re-release.

>>10518711
oh my god those replica bags are atrocious, the cranium head, long torso....aaa

>>10518765
I think more rereleases are imminent at this point. I think crowd favorites would be the first though, or things that show up less. I'm thinking Milky Planet, Milky Fawn, Vanilla-Chan. Hell .. maybe Prncess in Love because that solid was being sold for almost $1k lately and is very rare. I don't think Decoration Dream would be in the mix for rereleases though. I hadn't seen people fight over it as much.

If anything it's going to take a few years though. The MTOs will probably have AP's hands tied up until at least late 2021 or early 2022.

Why did this style die down in the first place?

>>10519111
It's a loud style - the teens that were into it were growing up and didn't want to be quite so loud, the new blood coming in wanted something different after decora/fairy kei/gyaru/etc.

>>10518765
Absolutely. They already started, long before the big anniversary announcement. Just look at HC or the chocolate series.

AP knows these prints are in high demand. The main reason that the price of the 2010s releases has decreased over time is that the dresses themselves are fading and falling apart. Most girls aren't willing to pay near-retail for a dress that's washed-out and pit-stained that's gone through a dozen owners.

I think SC might wind up being their biggest MTO to date, and if it is then I think an MTO release of Milky Planet and other classics is inevitable. The real question is which prints they'll choose, which colorways, and which cuts. (And for the spergs on /cgl/, if they'll be on cotton.)

Personally I'm just holding out hope for MP in black. Any cut, any fabric, idgaf.

>>10519157
same, idgaf if its not cotton. poly doesn't fade or bleed as badly

>>10519157
I'm hoping for the original MP halter JSK. With the scallops, in cotton. God AP, fucking please. I love the yellow but yellow looks like shit on me so I'd probably get blue.

>>10518928
It was re-released around 2017, anon

>>10518765
I was browsing Weibo and saw a post from girlism that I think was talking about other rereleases people want.

https://weibo.com/5561876124/JyHbtsCPK?type=repost&ssl_rnd=1608097642.3939#_rnd1608260607046

Dresses listed were
-Dream Doll
-Elegant Velveteen Birdcage OP
-Nostalgic Doll OP
-Rose Cologne
-Polkadot Chiffon Cutie Ribbon JSK
-Princess in Love OP/JSK
-Colorful Ribbon series
-Colorful Heart series
-Colorful Sherbet Series
-Polkadot Angel Pony Applique

And a bunch of sallopettes including shyness bear and sweet waffle

>>10519111
It's a mixture of what >>10519117 said but the style shifted to favor classic. OTT classic was a thing for a short while. There also was a lack of other styles to feed off of- decora and fairy kei quieted down, gyaru split into mode gyaru or the Amo style that would become the larme aesthetic. What we call cult party and dolly kei had their spot in the limelight for awhile too.

it'll never happen but i want a dreaming macaron rerelease. i really dislike the fabric it's printed on

>>10519188
Wow, the Chinese have fucking horrible taste and only want boring ass shit to be re-released. No wonder all the newer releases have been so fucking boring, they're catering to these tacky bitches. I guess I can't fault them too much, everything they eat is laden with heavy metals, it must fuck with their brains.

Here's what I hope they re-release:
-Milky Planet
-HC switching jsk in mint/pink (cotton would be dope)
-Sugar Hearts
-Marshmallow Bunny
-Sugar Dream Dome

>>10519197
woah, you're really mad anon. all of thise solids are better than a damn sugar dream done rerelease, was that even a popular print?

AP rarely makes fun solids anymore, so i can see why that would be high demand.

and dream magic is really cute!!

posting some fun non printed (as in not a named series) coords

>>10518217
Lolita & Colitas Unicorn Macaron Dessert Station series nailed the 2010 OTT sweet aesthetic. Sold like crazy, tho. Good luck finding one.

>>10519206
the print for this was cute but i hated all of the cuts. i hope they continue to make releases though, they're a very promising taobao brand

>>10519202
Wow this is super cute. I hope she didn't fall, that pavement looks super sketch.

>>10519208
>square dancing petti

>>10518111
how new are you? are you like 21? get back into your neo-lolita threads and gtfo, young one

>>10519185
I'm hoping for this so hard. I really want these over their new stuff honestly. Take a break from the new stuff and do these rerelease MTOs of the classic APs. Revisit what people loved and maybe improve on their new releases.

>>10519188
interesting no Melty Ribbon Chocolate, I would think that would be up there. I mean i guess they did do a rerelease but it was sort of a joke

>>10518183
How’d you get pictures of my sleep paralysis demon

>>10518217
Check out Maxicimam for their Chocolate Bear Coty-chan prints, pic rel. Those work. Nile Perch is good, too; not really lolita mostly, but for ott sweet accessories it's good. Bodyline occasionally puts out acceptable pieces, like Squirrel Party and Unicorn and Friends, but they go fast. And I haven't seen that one cute BL ice cream print in years.

>>10518860
Thank you!

>>10519197
Only printfags have shit taste :^)

>>10518860
Bless you anon. This is the kind of tutorial I've been looking for

>>10519188
I'm so down for this. Make it happen, AP!

>>10519188
I'm so glad the Chinese have the same taste as me

>>10519197
>calling these boring AND tacky at the same time
Sounds like you're projecting your own brain damage

>>10519219
I'd give anything for this fucking dress at this point but I've basically lost hope...

>>10519188
Angel Pony would be nice but they would probably do plain cotton like the Nakayoshi Bunny rerelease.

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>>10518704
Yeah you really have to visit their store, they have more pieces there than online. They also still had some nice pieces in their outlet last time, but the colors are very specific.

>>10518192
>>10518422
Holy shit just saw her IG.

After all that whiny crying in the lolita documentary and pretentiousness over the years she sure took a nose dive into even further cringe territory. Didn't even think that was possible.

She's now a fat llama lipped kpop idol skinwalker. Big yikes. That documentary was clearly cursed since each trainwreck featured aged like spoiled milk.

>>10519197
How about both?

>>10519792
is this edited or are they twinning

>>10519919
What documentary are you talking about?

Set aside pony bag replicas, does anyone here remeber the brand called Pink Macaron? They used to make unicorn bags to match their Unicorn Fantasy print. Earlier editions looked pretty cute, even tho they were super tiny. They seemed even smaller than AP pony bags.

>>10519968
Sugar Coated on YT, full of special snowflakes who felt the need to tie lolita fashion to their mental illnesses.

>>10519981
Oh, I watched it before but only remember lor being in it honestly

>>10519981
Bro, the amount of people over the last 10 years wearing their "sPeShUL MEntALl iLLnEss" as a badge of honor is too damn high.

>>10519972
Oh wow, I vaguely remember this brand and wanting one of their skirts (I think?) way back in the day. Their bags were really cute!

>>10519963
Twinning I think

>>10519792
I would honestly shank someone to own this colorway of Carnival.

>>10520000
If AP is smart they’ll rerelease it

>>10519587
I'd be down, and for >>10519792 too, I hate the texture of velvet/velveteen/corduroy.

>>10519988
The reason people talk about their mental illnesses usually isn't to feel special. It's to claim something that's stigmatized and it's an effort to normalize mental illness. It doesn't need to be some big secret or scandal that you take antidepressants or get therapy. I'm personally glad it's normalized now, also it's nice to know there's people that can empathize with you on a personal level when you're also mentally ill.

And come on. This is alt fashion. I bet 90% or more of people into alt fashion are mentally ill in some way. Are you not?

One annoying thing is the amount of chicks with NPD and HPD claiming to have BPD though. Because they know BPD=uwu sad victim with lots of feelings, but in reality they're just histrionic attention whores and/or manipulative sociopathic narcs.

>>10520011
AP seem having difficult relationship with velvet these days. I would likely not go for it in plain fabric, even if it was cotton.

>>10520013
You can leave.

>>10520026
Same. Why bother.

>>10519919
Bruh, leave some roast for the rest of us. Seriously, though, I had to unfollow her. She needs some help or something or a new AP dress to liven her up.

I just had this though, what if Neo Nakayoshi Bunny dress was just a sample? What if they're going with velvet for actual release?

>>10519972
I still have my pony bag! It’s cute, but unfortunately the fabric on the hooves peeled so they’re plain white now. It doesn’t look too noticeable at least I think.

>>10519198
Serious question: how can we ever convince people lolita is not a costume when brands release literal costume things like witch hats? I can barely even convince myself anymore with shit like this

>>10520065
why do you feel the need to convince people of that? are you really that insecure that you care about what every single normie thinks of your clothes? maybe lolita isn't the fashion for you in that case...

>>10520065
Its not the item its the quality of the item. Was it actually designed by an atelier, with quality construction, good fabrics or materials or hardware

Compare mass produced anime cat ears versus much less mass produced Baby cat ears

Like yeah those witch hats look clowny but compare them to actual party city witch hats made out of plastic. The average idiot can't discern the difference but if we were all out here to please the average idiot then why tf we in an alternative fashion.

>>10520026
I have this in black and it irritates me to no end that the white velvet panels are closer to a cream color and the ponies are brilliant white. A rerelease in literally any other colorway would be awesome but they’ve only ever rereleased the black

thx OP and everyone who posted pics

>>10520065
Any alt fashion will look like a costume to a normie. Goths get the same reaction. I had similar thoughts until I realized that I don't give a shit. I'm doing this for entirely my own enjoyment and the opinions of others mean absolutely nothing to me. Especially ones who couldn't put together a fashionable normie outfit to save their own lives.

Of course there's also a divide in any fashion between casual everyday outfits, nicer outfits for get togethers and medium tier events, and big ass events. Like you're probably not going to wear a housedress to high tea or an opera dress to go grocery shopping. You absolutely can if you want to but it's good to recognize that there are different kinds of fancy clothing for different reasons. It doesn't make them any more of a costume than anything else.

>>10520082
Oh damn, is it supposed to be that way?? I assumed mine was discolored.

>>10520065

1. most alt fashion looks like a costume to normies. the presence of a witch hat isn't going to change that

2. the presence of a witch hat alone doesn't make something a costume. someone can wear a witch hat with jeans and say they're wearing a costume, but that doesn't mean that jeans are automatically a costume.

3. i know many lolitas find the term costume insulting, but i don't. theres nothing wrong with wearing a costume. why would i care if someone thinks i am wearing one?

>>10520137
Based, never understood why western lolitas get so pissy about this.

>>10520014
There's a difference between normalizing something that has been so stigmatized and thankfully, it's not as stigmatized and wearing it on your sleeve for sympathy and a badge of honor. That's the issue.

>>10520065
IDK? Just don’t care about what other people think? Who fucking cares if someone thinks you’re wearing a costume?

>>10520082
I have the black x pink one and the velveteen, ribbons and polka dot ribbon are all different pink!

>>10520135
>>10520287
I remember seeing this black x white colorway on sale secondhand. The lighting has made the white (ivory?) parts look slightly yellowish and I was like "whoa, that thing seriously aged". Now that I know it I don't really mind some little color mismatch.

>>10520137
its more of an insult to be miss interpreted. most brand items are beyond the quality of costumes so its pretty insulting to the items itself when their value is seen as "costume"

>>10520144
Because things sold as costume in the west are of piss-poor quality even just looking at it.

>>10520082
What are you talking about? They rereleased it in the pink and pink x red too, not just black.

>>10520308
That doesn’t matter to normies. It doesn’t matter if the quality is good, the fashion is completely out of their sphere of understanding and to them, angelic pretty is indecipherable from a leg avenue halloween costume.

>>10520397
Maybe if you live in a hick town without any fashionable or even decently dressed normies, yeah

>>10520420
It has nothing to do with it being a hick town. Most normies don't care about clothing quality, we're in the era of fast fashion. and most people won't be close enough to your coordinate to tell the difference in quality from a costume anyway. even most fashion conscious people don't know shit about fabric, construction and quality.

anyway here is the other scan of this >>10518690 spread

>>10520714
That's not my experience.

>>10518184
Is that a man in blue or and incredibly flat chested woman?

>>10520781
that's asuka newfag

>>10520781
that's one of the fucking AP designers you goddamned newfag

>>10520781
Your card has been revoked.

>>10520781
Die

Anyone having a picture of Rinrin in something hot pink that has a cape? She said it was her first photoshoot with AP.

>>10520781
remember when lolita used to be more about the clothes themselves than the people wearing them? as in this fashion is to empower women so who gives a fuck about faces?

>>10521131
This fashion hasn't been about empowering women in a long time, if it ever was.

Could I get some milky planet nostalgia?

>>10524204
sure!

>>10524216
love handmade props like this!

There’s so much boobloaf in this thread we bout to open a cgl bakery lmao

The wig is shit and I need a better one but here's my attempt at ott 2010 sweet

>>10518734
That doesn't look like a replica.

>>10524930
is this you anon? rofl

>>10524930
this aint 2010 sweet. ur wearing a cosplay wig.

>>10524930

i can't tell if you're trolling or not because those bangs, anon...

>>10520782
>>10520786
>I said fag, am cool yet?

>>10525897
go back to wherever you came from newfag

>>10525907
Don't you have a tag on Twitter to flood because normies hurt your fee fees? Cuntfag.

>>10525913
>I said cunt, am cool yet?

>>10525914
You left fag out. That's the cool part...cuntfag.

>>10525139
It is, you can tell by the wonky proportions. I think it was kidsyoyo that did pony bag replicas back in the day?? One of the taobao brands.

>>10525913
woah, the girl on the left is the first time I've seen ott sweet and liked it

It's funny, but looking back, this was the era that made me dislike sweet and get into old school. Now I can't stop kicking myself for missing out on all these releases

>>10526535
It's okay anon, 2010 OTT sweet marked a huge cultural shift in lolita. It was popular, it was different from the norm, and meetlitas were becoming a lot more normalized. I remember secrets claiming border prints would be the downfall of lolita. It's understandable that we didn't understand how good we had it at the time

>>10526535
Same. In my case all of the dislike was my own baggage, though.

I was right out of high school and trying super hard to look like a mature adult. Plus I had a major case of the "I'm not like other girls, I hate pink cute things" shit. And of course I hated that OTT sweet made lolita look like a costume.

ofc now I understand that ALL lolita looks like a fucking costume. Normies don't even wear skirts where I live, the main fashion source is walmart. Even the most tasteful classic looks are OTT compared to jeans and a tank top. And I don't give a fuck if random strangers think I'm weird or get the wrong idea about my clothes.

I'll share some faves I've dug up. Would be interested in following lolitas who currently post content akin to this if you guys have suggestions.

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>>10526734
Saw her posted a couple times up thread, she was one of my favorite lolitas who wore this style.

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>>10526737
Done for now

>>10524930
This reeks of self post and belongs in the ita thread. Who would take inspiration from this trash fire lmao.

>>10524930
wtf is that pose? autism dude.

>>10526741
>Here's my attempt

Reading is fundamental

Does anyone have pictures of coords using natural hair/mostly natural hair? Black or dark brown preferred?

>>10524247
cgl and fat go hand in hand, anon.

>>10519963
Twinning

>>10521121
I believe that this might be the picture you are talking about, >>10526730
I’m not 100% because I’m shit at recognising faces in general.

This thread srsly takes me back. These damn kids have no sense of history, tho. Hopefully more of these old style threads pop up because the styles of today were informed by the styles of yesteryear

>>10541321

this

>>10519187
Wait, really??? Pls forgive, I was just getting into the fashion around that time. I can't find anything about a rerelease of Carnival on lolibrary though I know that doesn't mean much. Was it a Japan exclusive?