/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

On a scale of 1-10 how frowned upon would a car decal be of a straight up burando logo?

>>10508294
Who cares?

>>10508294
Do it, anon. It would be neat.

>>10508286
There's already a thread for lucky packs, but are there any good Black Friday/Cyber Monday sales going? I know WW has a coupon and a couple shops are doing discounts but I'm interested in finding some new things.

>>10508294
Itasha out your car with Misako and Usakumya

>>10508326
If you're into casual, Lily of the Valley has a couple of cute tees. I'm sure Lolita Collective is doing something and they have a million brooches and other things.

>>10508349
oh thanks! I totally forgot to check LOTV

Does anyone remember when AP last did their huge 55,000 yen lucky pack that’s almost impossible to obtain?

why is everyone and their mom trying to shill this

>>10508473
who is this for???

>>10508473
It's disgustingly twee and it has that pastel rainbow that all the gender specials who beg for money online throw their money at.

>>10508473
It's so ugly and that lace looks like they dug up granama's Grave to get it

>>10508535
>looks like they dug up granama's Grave to get it
What are you talking about? That would likely be good quality handmade lace. This is made in China plastic crap.

>>10508473
god this popped up in my insta feed today and one girl I thought had good taste commented "wow so cute!" like. It's cute in a "you poor ita, it's okay I'm here to save you from your bad fashion decisions now" way.

>>10508712
My grandma was from China

>>10508473
Stick to accessories

>>10508712
How old is your grandma? All the lace my grandma gave me was scratchy nylon stuff. Current grandmas weren’t alive in the Victorian age.

>>10508786
My grandma grew up in WW2 Germany but all her lace doilies and stuff were actually nice cotton lace.

>>10508286
Lolita, light of my life, fire of my loins. My sin, my soul. Lo-lee-ta: the tip of the tongue taking a trip of three steps down the palate to tap, at three, on the teeth. Lo. Lee. Ta. She was Lo, plain Lo, in the morning, standing four feet ten in one sock. She was Lola in slacks. She was Dolly at school. She was Dolores on the dotted line. But in my arms she was always Lolita

Lolita, light of my life, fire of my loins. My sin, my soul. Lo-lee-ta: the tip of the tongue taking a trip of three steps down the palate to tap, at three, on the teeth. Lo. Lee. Ta. She was Lo, plain Lo, in the morning, standing four feet ten in one sock. She was Lola in slacks. She was Dolly at school. She was Dolores on the dotted line. But in my arms she was always Lolita

Should newbies be recommended taobao?

>>10508786
my grandma is in her 70s and most of the lace stuff she owns has cotton lace, though admittedly i think a lot of it came from her mother and my grandpa's mother

Lolita, light of my life, fire of my loins. My sin, my soul. Lo-lee-ta: the tip of the tongue taking a trip of three steps down the palate to tap, at three, on the teeth. Lo. Lee. Ta. She was Lo, plain Lo, in the morning, standing four feet ten in one sock. She was Lola in slacks. She was Dolly at school. She was Dolores on the dotted line. But in my arms she was always Lolita.

>>10508868
are you lost? fuck off you crossboarding retard

>>10508869
>are you lost?
Not at all, isn't this the board where I can find Lolita?

>>10508792
Mine too and yeah she has some nice doilies, but the lace she gave me for sewing was almost entirely scratchy nylon raschel. She used it for doll clothes though so I guess the itchiness didn’t bother them.

>>10508858
That makes sense if it’s inherited. My grandma is 90 but everything she gave me was bought new in the 60s, 70s and 80s.

>>10508853
If they have good taste and are willing to follow advice, sure. If they have bad taste or no concept of quality then taobao is a minefield. Most people I know regret everything they bought from taobao as a clueless noob.

>>10508869
imagine getting this assblasted over an obvious troll and not just reporting and ignoring it

>>10508853
Unless there is a specific, vetted brand that's being recommended (and even then), I would say it's a supremely bad idea. I'm definitely a quality snob, and to me the quality of taobao is so variable(and below most brand) that it's either going to be a disappointment or worse, teach newbies that low-quality is both acceptable and the norm. In fact, I could get further on my soapbox and say the booming chinese indie market and treatment of lolita as "fast fashion" in the Chinese market has helped contribute to the direction certain major brands have taken with their releases.

>t. an old salty brandwhore

>>10508853
I think LM is the best choice for newbies.
>simple interface
>basic ebay/craigslist concept that they're already familiar with
>purchases arrive quickly
>buy actual burando for cheap
>get them used to the idea that real lolita costs $$$
>get them used to looking at burando sizing

But I think that depends on the newbie, too.

Do they have a decent sense of style or aesthetic? If yes, I think it's fine to point them to taobao (or a taobao reseller to start) for accessories and foundational garments.

You could also have them make a coord collage before buying anything, that you/your comm could vet and give feedback on.

>>10508934
sa
I forgot to add-

Someone who already wears a lot of 'fashion' items, whether that's real fashion or subculture/themed stuff like killstar, even fast fashion like dollskill or similar, probably won't have as many issues. They'll be used to the idea of building complete outfits, looking for deals, styling their hair and makeup to match, etc. and you won't have to worry about sticker shock.

But if the girl lives in jeans+tshirts, never styles her hair, and so on it'll be more of a struggle.

>>10508853
If they're newbies set on buying something new, I'd direct them to a reseller like Glitzy Wonderland or Devil Inspired (Glitzy doesn't have as much as Devil but the total cost comes out to less 9 times out of 10). It's too hard for newbies to navigate an SS early on. I'd encourage them to look at reviews before deciding on a piece. If they're alright with secondhand, I second >>10508934 over buying from a reseller. It's better to make cheaper mistakes early on than expensive ones.

Secrets

We actually got quite a few of them and they are mostly interesting this week.

>>10508997
I just briefly viewed Glitzy and their shoes and dresses seem to be more expensive than DI.

>>10508853
No, unless its for accessories and even then there's etsy.

Taobao is for people who can differentiate between shit from Shinola, newbies can't do that

>>10509028
Taobao is fine for acessories; good etsy lolita acessories are limited. SweeyDollyHouse is the only one that immediately comes to mind as good though I've bought from some others here and there, while Taobao has cats tea party for simple bow rings and necklaces at the appropriate scale and various cute shapes for rings and clips, and many other shops have headbows/bands that work well for sweet, socks, and for pettis Aurora and Ariel and Vlassical Puppets are known for being good.

>>10509008
And thats even if it get there

>>10509061
Good to know

>>10508997
When I was 15, I managed to walk my dad through a SS and Taobao to get my first dress. It's possible if you're willing to put in the time and do the research.

>>10509161
>Shopping on taobao at 15
Wow, time really flies. I feel old

>>10509061
Classical Puppets hasn’t been known for being good in at least five years

>>10509254
If it makes you feels better that was 8 years ago.

>>10509256
I see people reccomend them on cgl regularly still.

That still doesn't invalidate other taobao acessories or certain staples being decent.

>>10509007
The vendetta is strong

>>10509317
where are secrets even posted these days

>>10509319
Same place as always

>>10509320
I'm an oldfag and don't know where they've been posted since the LJ group stopped existing.

>>10509323
The LJ group still exists.

>>10509323
behind-the-bows.livejournal.com took over after lolita-secrets was purged. Ignore the newfag.

>>10509338
pretty sure i had btb bookmarked for a decade now but ok

>>10509007
Wish I could read the comments but LJ won't load them for me.

>>10509344
Claiming to have bookmarked it ten years ago when anyone from that period should have had it on their friends page? This is a very inaccurate larp.

>>10508934
>basic ebay/craigslist concept that they're already familiar with
about that...

>>10509376
I saw that and felt pain. The younger generation didn't grow up with auction sites

>>10509376
>>10509388
legit thought she was just dumb but realized im just old

Would wearing the Fancy Hospital special set to a doctor's appointment be cute or cringe?

>>10509416
Wearing lolita to the doctor’s office is cringe in general

>>10509417
So this wouldn't be crossing a line if I already wear lolita to the dr?

>>10509421
yo burando gonna get coronarino

>>10509417
fuck off larper

>>10509473
i think the true larpers are gulls who pretend they wear lolita 25/7 everywhere no matter the situation. unless you're going no petti and simple coord, going to the doctor in lolita makes you look as unhinged as you probably are

>>10509475
It's part of the social struggle. We need more relaxed, natural ways, but we're not getting any. It's all part of the same thing. Everybody is trying to make us into these artificial, contrived things just like they are and I hate it. You know what makes me laugh? The way they think of us as half-ape and devil-worshipping primitives. We are not primitive, we are the most highly evolved creatures in the universe.

Those who mock the ways of the ancients are themselves the least evolved. They take things that are very simple and very natural and make them complex, artificial and unpleasant. It's because they can't appreciate the finer things that we do. They'd try to make us like them if they could, but they know they can't. It's because we are better than they are that we don't share their ways. We have our own ways and we keep them sacred.

>>10509388
Oh shit you're right.

>>10509475
Idk I like to wear one petti and a solid jsk with a cardigan for normal errands. Occasionally a casual coord using a solid or subtle print

>>10509416
extremely cringe

>>10509475
>wearing lolita like actual clothes is unhinged, please care about how you look in the eyes of normies
The absolute state.

>>10509475
>>10509501
My main style is understated classic and not all petticoats are gigantic, anon. While I do own pants/some normie items for certain occasions, it is possible to wear lolita as clothes and have it not be that weird.

>>10509501
>>10509516
Same here, though I never know if I should call my daily style lolita or not because I don’t always wear a petti, often go without headwear and generally opt for plain tights. The main piece is lolita and someone familiar with the brand might recognise it as such but if I posted it under lolita tags on social media I’d probably end up in the ita thread for not wearing it properly. I honestly don’t know if I consider myself a daily lolita or not.

>>10509523
it's lolita a la mode

>>10509416
If you like it, wear it. You'll get a mix of opinions. Do what makes you happy. Your only worry should be about practicality, like if they're pricking you, you don't want blood to possibly get on your coord.

I was browsing through accesories on etsy and came across this dress. Is this a replica of anything? I kind of want it but I don't buy dresses from etsy.

>>10509416
You do you honey boo boo, but hospitals are dirty as fuck so wear with caution. It would be horrible to get blood etc like the other anon mentioned on your burando.

>>10509698
Another view of this dress.

>>10509698
I’ve bought from enchanted dreamwear before and they seem fine, I feel kind of weird buying it from Etsy too lol. Can’t speak on behalf of main pieces though

>>10509515
nayrt who the hell wears their normal clothes to the doctor. you might need to get undressed, your doctor might need to check under your shirt or feel you. wearing anything other than a shirt and pants is inconvenient and also embarrassing for you.

>>10509714
>>10509700
I'm talking about wearing it to my chiropractor and/or my psychiatrist...

>>10509726
I hope you get bone juice on your brand

>>10509726
Psychiatrist is ok unless they focus on the clothes and decide you have a Peter Pan syndrome or something. Wouldn’t wear it to anything that required physical examination because of practical issues though.

>>10509726
I got to a chiropractor regularly and really it depends what you are going to get done. If a little neck snapping then yea it's fine. But some positions they're going to need to be able to feel your spine/hip bones and may have to twist you in certain ways that might be uncomfortable in a dress. I say go for a casual coord.

>>10509753
>unless they focus on the clothes and decide you have a Peter Pan syndrome
You jest but this actually happened to me once

Ideas on what to put in the heart window? Would some korilakkumas be cute or no?

>>10509792
I've seen people put mini mini usakumyas in there lol, I know, super creative.

I'm excited to get mine! Maybe I'll do the typical shit and put pins in there?

>>10509792
print out Misako's face

>>10509416
I am going to be the outlier here and say it depends on the doctor and the nature of the visit.

>>10509376
someone accused me of using a bot in the comments of an auction once as they bid up by $1 increments and gave up after $20 lol

>>10509726
Do you usually wear lolita to the psychiatrist? I wouldn’t because I don’t want to explain I’m not an ageplayer.

>>10509893
They shouldn't be implying you are. It's important to give them a full idea of who you are. Anon wants to wear the frills to therapy it will be fine. If it is there normal attire there is no reason not to.

>>10509898
I’m speaking from personal experience. I’m not saying it’s right, but it can happen.

Yeah, I usually wear lolita/jfash to the psych. I was mostly wondering if the nurses would like, think I'm mocking them, or something.

IDK, I suppose I was wondering if that special set would seem extra out there to normies? Versus regular pastel printed AP stuff. Or is it just as "costumey" to a normie as any other lolita coord?

I think Little sisters shouldn't be allowed to give advice on BSoLF

>>10509912
I think BSoLF is beyond redemption but yes, that should be a given.

I miss when we had active CoF threads with actual, decent coordinates. The quality of facebook lolita content has gone downhill, and while I have my standbys I follow on instagram it's not as easy to find new content, especially with the ongoing tag ban.

>>10509714
I have more problems fumbling around with a shirt and jeans than unbuttoning a blouse and skirt.

>>10509714
I have more problems fumbling around with a shirt and jeans than unbuttoning a blouse and skirt. Also if taking a bit longer to undress is embarassing for you already, maybe lolita is simply not the fashion for you.

>>10509792
Probably gonna put in the badges that’s coming in the happy pack and maybe get some cute mini plushies to swap out with coord themes

>>10509782
You too? I was wearing extremely toned down classic that usually gets mistaken for vintage, but the letter to my GP said
>despite being in her late twenties, patient appears like a child
cool dude thanks
not like I was seeking your help for anxiety or anything

>>10509950
That's weird that you were able to see the letter from your psych to your GP. What kind of back alley healthcare are you getting. They always keep that information out of view from the patient.

>>10509951
Nta but you can ask to see your own records. That kind of stuff is in there.

>>10509950
Just reading this makes me annoyed. I hope you started looking for a different psychiatrist after that.

>>10509952
Yes, but a professional and not stupid psychologist/psychiatrist would never release that to a patient.

Meta's new sweet dress just arrived and I think I got the wrong size???? I ordered the plus plus version and it's fucking huge. Like my bust is 125cm and I'm swimming in it

>>10509976
Post pics?

>>10509951
Usually specialist letters are copied to the patient....

>>10509976
No shit, you just barely dont fit into the regular which has a max of 120 cm, you didnt need the plus plus which goes up to 155cm.

>>10509976
I messed up too, i should’ve gone with just the plus size. It’s way too big in the shoulder area too, it’s so incredibly loose, and I’m a huge fat at 102bust/92waist.
Maybe I can just get it altered or maybe swap it with someone else’s plus size?

>>10509981
Not in the US. Referrals to other departments with notes are never sent to the patient. The only thing the patient gets is work release forms that are super generic unless the provider specifies otherwise. And it is illegal, I think at least in California, to inquire about sick conditions for work releases.

The US is very serious about PHI and what information is released to the patient/outside parties. And it seems really unprofessional of the psychiatrist/psychologist to release those types of notes to the patient...so awkward

>>10509982
Jesus Christ why is meta upsizing their clothes so much?! I thought AP and IW were bad when they upped to 88-90 for some of their pieces. That's insane.

>>10509976
Well, everyone kept saying to get the largest size because you can always take it in... but I was skeptical whether that's necessary. I want to wait and see feedback like yours before I commit to a size.

>>10509985
anon, you can ask for all of that. PHI is to protect the patients info from others, not them.

>>10509985
You're correct in that they aren't sent to the patient automatically, but you can get full records, including all notes like the mentioned above, upon request. However, there is usually a fee and short waiting period to have them obtained. No information regarding your health can be withheld from you, but it can be from inquiring parties such as work and family members that don't have written permission to obtain the records.

>>10509984
I guess I'm not as fat as I thought? Feels weird not needing to wear a binder for once

>>10509951
Ayrt and my country it’s standard to send those kinds of letters to the patients well.

>>10509965
I did, for multiple reasons!

Can maid lolita be done well or is it always tacky outside of full sets? I've been trying to look for classic or sweet/classic coords for inspo but can only find pics of tacky bodyline or cosplay-looking shit.

>>10509991
I'm glad that in the US, doctors don't just automatically have access to your past healthcare records.

I say that because I was hospitalized at an incredibly negligent inpatient behavioral facility. My therapist spent weeks trying to get the notes from my stay, and when she got them, she didn't really tell me anything about them but she disconnected from me almost entirely and I stopped seeing her a couple months later, because she just did a 180 in how she spoke to me.

I decided to go ahead and get the records and see what they said. Dudes, they said a bunch of absolutely insane shit and even threw my family under the bus. Said I spoke sexually to my father on the telephone. I told my boyfriend I couldn't wait to kiss him and that I wanna make out like we're teenagers again??? This was also something that was brought up during a family therapy session and obvs my parents and I were appalled at the mere suggestion, and we all said that was my boyfriend! Well I guess they thought we were all liars, cause that's what they wrote down. Said there was sexual tension between me and my father (fucking GROSS, no there isn't). Said my entire family seemed pathological and there was no wonder it's affected me. Said I was showing signs of amphetamine withdrawal (I'm quite literally allergic to amphetamine) and said both me and my parents lied about what I OD'd on, and that I OD'd on amphetamine, not benzos (a flagrant lie... Again, I'm allergic, I would have been covered head to toe in a scaly flaky rash).

Oh! I guess during my intake assessment (I was black out wasted and don't remember it) they asked me what my hobbies were and I slurred lolita fashion. It was written that all my hobbies are sexual in nature and that I had the peter pan syndrome thing.

So yeah I'm never letting another mental health professional see those bullshit notes ever again.

>>10510041
The mental health institution is a pile of crockery. I don’t know why special snowflakes are so desperate to be diagnosed with something or other so they can get under the claws of these kinds of negligent people. It sounds like you went through a lot, anon, and I’m sorry you had to deal with that, but I have no idea why they wanted to say you OD’ed on something you didn’t because you already admitted to ODing on something else. Is it because benzos are generally associated with a slightly higher class and they wanted to suggest you were trashier? Just grasping at straws.

>>10510041
I’m so sorry you went through that, that’s an absolute nightmare. When I obtained my notes something similar happened- they had all sorts of shit in there I never said and purposely made me look violent (wtf?) so they could medicate me for reasons completely unrelated to my visits. It was hell to fight it, I ended up having to take the hospital to court to get them to drop certain bills because it was clear they were going to abuse the system to keep me as a cash flow opportunity and the falsified notes were insane. Thinking about the shit they claimed I said makes me so upset, I felt like so used and insignificant.

>>10510041
Miss, this is the Lolita General, not your tumblr.

>>10509986
As a fatty chan I think this is good for all other super fattys to get, meta’s dresses are cute and bow we have more options rather than crappy indie brands

>>10509991

There's no fee associated with obtaining records, it's whatever the mode of obtaining records costs you. EMRs also allow very easy intra-EMR record retrieval from any other place.

>>10510075
I depends on which EMR you're using desu. Some of the interfacing is a mess and it's a joke trying to import/export information lol.

Back to lucky packs tho, is AP going to put any out? I can't believe the IW ones already sold through. Wonder if it will be a bunch of ugly dresses and leftover.

>>10510096
>is AP going to put any out?

I'm hoping that the long wait means they might be doing a really awesome happy pack with a unique print in cotton a la Dream Fantasy. But that's 99.9999% wishful thinking on my part.

>tfw no nice cotton set with matching socks/KC and a blouse/bag for under $200

>>10510096

Lol tell me about it. I work in medical records so I have first hand exposure to all the wonders of medical records technology. But whatever pays for the burando I guess.

I always ponder IW every year but I really hate 80% of the releases in the past year. I wish I could be guaranteed just blouses or whatever.

>>10510101
Same anon hahaha. Some of these EMRs are just too big of a beast, but give so much job security. I'm not a fan of many of the IW releases the past few years.

>>10510100
I'm hoping too! Let's pray to the AP gods.

>>10509714
I wear vintage button down dresses and big ol shoes to the doctor. There are few things easier to take off than that. Coincidentally, I used to dress similarly for dates.

Serious question, why are so many western indie brands garbage at almost brando prices but still get asspats? Pic related

>>10510295
Sorry, spellcheck didn't want me to say either brand or burando apparently

>>10507736
Probably an unpopular opinion but lolita is suited best for thin girls, hence why jap girls look best in it.
You're free to wear what you want ofc, but that doesn't mean you'll look good in it.
I know it comes down to enjoyment and doing it for yourself, but not all clothes are suitable for everyone, I learned this myself. I admire girls who can pull off outfits I can't without envying them.

>>10510336
i don't think this is an unpopular opinion, just one that people don't discuss because it leads to shitflinging.

>>10510295
Honestly I think it's just because they cater to fat girls

Meta - Royal Jacquard Series
A JSK and half bonnet with veil will be put up for pre-order. The JSK will come in 2 sizes, Regular and Plus Size.
Pre-order start: Friday, 4th December, 5 pm JST
>https://metamorphose.gr.jp/en/metamornews/128777?fbclid=IwAR1bpb_fLlNhNIuV0i4vTOGgpv2YVC0cohoaSfpXNyddR4MVzuSPcp41MyE

Meta - Royal Jacquard Series
A JSK and half bonnet with veil will be put up for pre-order. The JSK will come in 2 sizes, Regular and Plus Size.
Pre-order start: Friday, 4th December, 5 pm JST
>https://metamorphose.gr.jp/en/metamornews/128777

>>10510370
I like the corset jsk better but no black colorway so i'm not getting it.

>>10510370
Ew.

>>10510370
That looks ugly

>>10510408
>>10510410
Shit taste.

>>10510414
Boy do I have a dress for you >>10510186

Could any Atlanta area folks point out some good teahouses for someone new in town? Somewhere outside the perimeter works too.

>>10510416
How dare you compare Meta to that atrocity!

>>10510370
The five bows and weird trim right below them lacing lmao. What a design train wreck. Not even good chaos.

>>10509976
why would you not check the listed measurements first? so many newbies made this mistake with little witch too

>>10510461
Its more like I didn't check my measurements, lmao
I had lost weight over the course of this year, so I was smaller than I thought I was

>>10510100
All I want for Christmas is an AP lucky pack with an exclusive print. I know I’m not getting one, but I can dream.

>>10510466
Same. Eagerly awaiting that AP lucky pack.

>>10510466
A cotton one :(

>>10510481
>>10510479
>>10510466

Same and I know we'll never get it but a gull can dream, anons...

>>10510370
I don't get the hate for this. I think this release is lovely.

>>10510060
yeah, we get shit for not wearing stuff that fits us but then brands get shit for releasing stuff that will?
would they rather we continue to look bad lmao

>>10510676
I think the answer is they would rather fat people not wear the fashion, even though Meta and AP don't mind chubby-chans

>>10510681
i will never understand lolitas need to get involved with other peoples clothes

>>10510676
If Meta is making multiple sizes, why won’t they make smaller ones? Their regular size is too big for me and a lot of people.

>>10510295
I really wish western indie brands would git gud. It’s too bad most of them focus on being able to fit plus sized people, not that it’s a problem, I’m plus size myself, but they should focus rather on details, which is what we love about brand dresses.

>>10510691
They probably should, it would be fair.

>>10510703
Fucking this. Im consistently left disappointed.

>>10510703
they always do fucking prints. get better at sewing and establish a brand first.

>>10510691
Meta is the one brand that’s catering to chubby-chans and you and the rest of the ana-chans can have the rest of the market. How is it unfair lmao
Feels odd getting a taste of not being able to fit into something you like huh?

>>10509903
It should be fine, whenever I wear mine out normies don't even realize what's on it desu. Just don't go full menhera.

>>10510756
All the sweet brands have been catering to chubby-chans. Meta has now started catering to morbidlyobese-chans. I feel bad for sweet lolitas of normal weight.

>>10510740
ugh this. I hate like 90% of indie prints. Most of those brands would make much nicer solids and if they did that instead I (and many others) would actually buy from them more.

>>10510370
I like the fabric but don't like the design itself. I wish they would do a more old school-influenced gobelin release.

>>10510769

Same anon. It would be much nicer if it was a simpler design that didn't obfuscate that wonderful grandma couch print.

>>10510769
>>10510790
Agreed. I feel this way about a lot of Meta designs and it bums me out. 90% of their releases I'd be all over if it weren't for a few deal-breaking issues.

>>10510790
>>10510769
These are good posts, thank you. I love the fabric but the design is so modern and not my style. If I get it, I'll never wear it. High waist trend needs to fucking die

>>10510370
I love how the print looks in navy, reminds me of their old gobelin pieces. Though I wish they made a version without the bustle so they could show it off more.

>>10510765
Most indie brands I’ve seen seem to have pretty meh construction and if they made solids that would be harder to hide/forgive.

>>10510769
>>10510835
I agree with all of this. There have been a lot of Meta releases that I almost loved except for one or two weird features that would be pretty much impossible to alter.

>>10510370
I with the bodice was a bit longer, and the skirt a bit shorter. This was almost perfect.

>>10510764
Anon 90-100cm bust is not chubby, that’s the higher end of regular sizing. And a lot of girls do actually have tits to fit into dresses

>>10511007
If someone has a 100 cm bust they are at the very least bordering on obese so yeah, fat. I have a 90 cm bust and I am for sure very chubby.

>>10511018
It depends on height. If you're taller 120cm bust may just look chubby like that vanillacarnival chick; I could be wrong but she seems like she is either all titty or taller with good proportions and her weight is better distributed as a result despite having high measurements so she is plus sized but doesn't look bad. If you have a 120cm bust at 5 feet tall though you're undoubtedly obese even if it looks nice. And tallitas like the regular plus size based on comments in spite of the increased measurements anyway.

>>10511018
I'm 94cm bust and 171cm height and could definitely stand to lose at least 10lb. So I agree with you. 100cm bust is definitely overweight regardless of height unless you're an ultra muscular amazon.

>>10511023
Yeah, if you’re a 6’2” giantess a 100 cm bust is the higher end of average but the majority of lolitas are sub 5’6” so a 100 cm bust for that height is pretty fat. I checked out that vanilla chick and she is huge. She’s cute though so at least she has that.

>>10510703
R.R. Memorandum looks really nice and has great old school designs but they release so rarely.

>>10511025
>>10511032
5'4" here with 100cm bust, 74cm waist

>>10511018
lmao what??? I'm at 5'7", 100cm bust, 66 cm waist, and 120 lbs....by your standards I am obese? what the fuck are you on?

>>10511018
Uhmmmm my friend has a 102 cm bust because she has natural DDs. She's under 5 ft tall and a normal BMI. Not fat. Coming from me and my 80 cm bust perspective. Some ppl just got titties anon, we can't all be IBTC members.

>>10511042
74cm waist is big, especially for 5'4. You're supposed to be around 66cm

>>10510703
Honestly very few of them seem to get designing pieces for plus-sized proportions, they just upsize standard designs. If you're aiming at the plus-sized market, don't make only babydoll cuts which are notorious for looking weird on large chests, it doesn't matter if the bodice measurements technically fit. Agreed on the lack of details issue too, so many Western indie brands put out basic bodices attached to basic skirts with maybe lace trim at the hemline if you're lucky, but still charge several hundred dollars for it.

>>10510740
I think it's partly because it's easier to disguise simple construction with detailed prints, and partly because prints are just more popular.

>>10511018
Imma 100cm bust, BMI of 23.5. Normal weight, a bit chubby, but not even overweight let alone obese. I’m 5’7” and have big boobs. Not everyone is 5’1”

>>10511054
If you're chubby you need to lose weight anon

>>10511048
Sorry but on me that would look seriously off with my proportions and I don't think is possible. My bust being 100cm is all tits as my back and side ribs and visable. I'm 140lbs now thanks to covid and the smallest I've been is 128lbs and even then the smallest my waist has been is 72cm and my bust stays 100cm. My mother is a retired vet that lifts regularly even in her 40s with visable muscles and always had DDDs. Some bodies are just shaped different, big bust does not always mean fat. Especially in the case where some races here in america were bred specifically for strength and broadness.

>>10511060
>Especially in the case where some races here in america were bred specifically for strength and broadness.
Lol so you're saying you're fat because your ancestors were bred to be? Peak delusional fatty

>>10511061
Fat? No. Having a 45cm shoulder width for a cis woman? Yes.

>>10511060
Don't blame your weight gain on covid. Plenty of people lost or didn't gain weight. You and all of bsolf can blame your boobs, but it's clear that you're overweight. 29in waist is for people who are 5'9

keep the fatty sperging in the ita thread for christ's sake

>>10511067
Didn't say I wasn't overweight, and didn't say everyone gained weight. I was speaking for myself since my job had gym and thanks to covid, I could no longer go and let myself go. That's on me until I just bought my own weights at home. My point is that bust size doesn't always mean someone is obese and at my thinest, my waist barely changed. I would litterally have to have surgery to get it down to 66cm or go full anachan. Sorry, I'm not about that life. I liked my muscles and abs.

>>10511056
If she has a normal BMI, no she doesn't????

>>10511075
Kek she literally admitted to being overweight. If you're chubby you should lose weight too fatass.

>>10511060
I guess proportions are different and ribcage and frame size plays a large part.

My bust is ~93cm and the bra size I wear is 32E/F, similar to you. My ribcage is pretty big I think for my frame. My waist is about 73cm, but that's because I've let myself go in the last 5 years. I naturally should be around 125-135 depending on muscle and body fat and around 90cm bust and 67cm waist. So I'm approximately 15-25lb overweight for my height. 5'7.5

>>10511072
> muscle and abs
Sorry, I didn't know you were a bodybuilder

>>10511081
she said she was chubby. 23.5 BMI is still in the average/normal range of weight.

Does anyone else here adore wearing lolita when bonding spiritually with the person you love in the most romantic way possible a.k.a. having sex? It’s the main reason I even wear lolita. It makes my boyfriend horny, and I never feel more loved or in love than when I have sex with him, and i know he feels the same way. Sex is amazing.

>>10511081
I'm an anachan with a 16 BMI. I'm just not a bitch.

>>10511112
I'm guessing you're American if you think being chubby is normal. Normal size isn't chubby.

how did this get turned into the 'Lolita Wellbeing' thread? Gulls, still Lolita General, so take it outside, thanks.

does anyone have experience insuring their collection? i'm looking into it right now and i'm wondering what the best agency is, and how i should value my brand. i'm estimating it to be worth 40k or more with all my pieces at their listed prices

>>10511148
In case this isn't bait... Just get the appropriate level of homeowners/renters insurance. Keep a record of your collection on the cloud somewhere to prove its not cheap shit if you have to claim it, and you're set.

>>10511205
nta but my homeowners insurance has special extra add ons for things like collectables or luxury brand goods (things that have a different market value than retail value) and the like, so that's probably what she's talking about.

>>10511205
>>10511206
i'm currently itemizing everything i own for homeowner's insurance so i was very worried about my brand being covered ;__; it turns out i can get it covered through my agency for a slightly higher rate which i'm honestly ok with! thanks gulls!

>>10511210
glad i could help! i get being worried about that. it's hard having things others don't understand the worth of.

>>10511142
More like your just a dipshit troll, fuck off

>>10511045
I'm an inch taller and just under 90cm with a d cup bra size. Guess we are all just built different

>>10511216
23.5 is 1.5 points away from overweight. In some cases at the same weight for asian women it is borderline if not already overweight. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a troll. I live in America and I can confirm that when weight is involved, people go full retard and ignore science and basic laws of thermodynamics lmao. No wonder my country is known as fat and stupid among other nations in the world. And that fat should be relabeled obese since literally over 40% of Americans are classified as medically obese by the CDC as of 2018.

In other news the baby/aatp lucky packs have been sold out for a few days it seems.

>>10511147
This, also stop responding to the scrotes.

Where do you find nice furniture for your house online? I tried searching for Victorian and vintage furniture on ebay but it keeps barfing so much dolls house stuff it's impossible to find the legit ones.

>>10511364
Just go to your local antique store. There’s loads of this stuff in antique malls all over the US and probably the world.

>>10511364
I feel you on this anon, finally trying to decorate and collect furniture for my gothic rococo bedroom. I have honestly been looking on like FB market place for old dressers and tables then sanding them down to repaint to match what i need. Also etsy had some things but running into all the doll house shit is annoying, but not as bad as ebay. Also check your local thrift stores.

>>10511364
IRL: antique stores, thrift stores
Online: antique store webpages, thrift store webpages, my country's equivalents to craigslist and ebay (where many antique/thrift stores sell their stuff), auction houses (great variety of prices), facebook marketplace

>>10511364
In addition to what other anons listed, try checking out estate sales; most of them are clearing out old people's houses, and often have older furniture.

>>10511458
This 100% you find some nice stuff at estate sales, old people dying is the best

Does the size of the box matter for EMS? thinking about getting some long boots, but they would like double the size of the box.
I don't wanna double the price of shipping just for some boots

>>10511681
It's primarily calculated by weight so shoes are going to be pricey to ship no matter what

When submitting measurements for custom pieces, is it best to go up a cm to allow room for error?

>>10510295
Fat itas who don't understand what a quality garment looks like.
They usually are easily excitable over specific themes and will say something looks great if it has that theme.

See the Galaxy trend from 5+ years ago.

>>10511831
Depends on if they tell you to use your actual body measurements or what you want the garment measurements to be. I think Lady Sloth requests your actual body numbers and adds the extra room for clothes and undergarments for you, so if its requesting your body and you add some extra, it'll end up a little baggy.

>>10511841
>>10511834
Like goth shit?
Like vampires?
Like hiphop/rap
Then listen to this amazing mixtape made by ELEVEN it is fire as fuck if you don't your mother will die in her sleep tonight thanks!
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLi-nstDpMFxcNWB59MsvAQrNSZVTaiR9_

>>10511842
Joke's on you, I want my mother to die.

>>10511846
Well you're a loser on 4chan and probably white so makes sense. Family dysfunction is common with whites and blacks. Glad I'm neither.
Like goth shit?
Like vampires?
Like hiphop/rap
Then listen to this amazing mixtape made by ELEVEN it is fire as fuck if you don't your mother will die in her sleep tonight thanks!
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLi-nstDpMFxcNWB59MsvAQrNSZVTaiR9_

>>10511849
You forgot the other race family dysfunction is common in: Asian. Oh, and Latina. Oh wait, EVERY race can have family dysfunction. Good thing I'm aracial and have no ethicity.

>>10511853
Didn't ask retard xD
Like goth shit?
Like vampires?
Like hiphop/rap
Then listen to this amazing mixtape made by ELEVEN it is fire as fuck if you don't your mother will die in her sleep tonight thanks!
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLi-nstDpMFxcNWB59MsvAQrNSZVTaiR9_

>>10511841
Good to know, thank you.

>>10510041
Sorry, but why would you wear lolita fashion for any non-sexual reasons? Personally I wear it because my boyfriend loves it when I have sex with him while wearing it. Because of that, I associate lolita with the most spiritual and emotional form of romantic love, which is sex. I don’t even wear lolita for any other occasion anymore, because lovemaking is so personal and emotional that it would be disrespectful to sex if I wore my sex clothes for any occasion other than passionate, loving, spiritual sex.

>>10511874
Reminder this post is bait, don't bother replying it will just derail the thread.

I really wish she’d just left the bodice plain. It looks so weird with the doll floating in the middle.

>>10511878
How is being normal bait? Does no one love you, are you asexual, or both? Sorry you’ll never understand romance

>>10511879
This looked good until I zoomed in, you're right.

>>10511879
the print is still shit

How many of you have been buying matching masks for your coords? After the corona shit is over, I still want to keep masks as part of my outfits. I've been finding cute stuff I can't help but grab.

>>10511894
I’ve been buying a lot of floral and polka dot ones since I can wear them with my normie clothes too. I love the look of Lirika Matoshi’s masks but haven’t gotten around to buying one yet.

>>10508286
fat legs, disgusting.

>>10511879
It also confuses me that she chose the doll to slap on the bodice instead of something else like a manga cover or leaving it plain. The doll is the most hated part of the print amongst my comm and several other lolitas I know online think it’s creepy too. Plain honestly would’ve been the best choice here, but everything about this release was bungled from not having a jsk in the first place, forcing people to buy pieces from the same collection twice, to only having poorly made looking hair accessories which were up for preorder for less than 48 hrs.

>>10511879
She did a poll iirc? But yeah, I do agree that a plain bodice would have been better.

>>10511894
I haven't been going out at all, so I haven't really bought any. I got a few cute ones as a bonus from Anna House and figured that would suffice.

Sorry if this is the wrong thread but I'm recently getting into lolita, and I just got my first petticoat, a voluminous tea-length one. If it were a lighter garnet, the waist would fit fine, but it's pulled down by how heavy it is. What can I do to keep my petticoat up?

>>10511919
The only options were fully printed and this. I thought the doll on the bodice looked alright in the illustration for the poll but it didn’t translate well irl.

>>10511912
I bought the skirt and parts of it looks cheap, much cheaper than the tartan JSK I bought. I'm happy I didn't buy the headpieces.

>>10511929
This is for the stupid questions thread, and it sounds like you might have bought one of those cheap Aliexpress ones. But you can use safety pins to pin the waist smaller so your hips keep it up (assuming you have hips and aren’t a man).

>>10511950
This is the one I got, and I tried pinning it but it still slid down some and it cause the ruffles/volume to be uneven. I am female, although I have very narrow hips/waist. (sorry if I should've continued in other thread, felt like it made more sense to reply to something here)

>>10511894
I did; also I started sewing them as well - it's such a nice little project that's quickly finished. My next two will be for oldschool coords, with nice lace.

>>10511990
Oh that seems nice and a good idea.

>>10511995
>>10511990
>>10511980
Like goth shit?
Like vampires?
Like hiphop/rap
Then listen to this amazing mixtape made by ELEVEN it is fire as fuck if you don't your mother will die in her sleep tonight thanks!
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLi-nstDpMFxcNWB59MsvAQrNSZVTaiR9_

>>10511942
I bought a skirt too and I’m worried about how it’ll look when I get it now. Another girl in my comm got the same skirt and said she wasn’t 100% happy with it but didn’t give any more details.

>>10511980
use suspenders

>>10512098
nta but wouldn't that look weird under a blouse?

>>10512084
So the belt buckle looks cheap and I dont know how to put it in words, but on my seams you can see the white puckering of the sewing? The fabric is pretty thin too.

>>10511894
I've sewed matching ones for dresses that still have scraps left. I remember thinking back when it started it would be all over in a couple weeks so there wouldn't be any need to sew any in fall colors...sigh

>>10511980
I agree you'll need something to hold it up, if you have no hips/ass to help. You can buy suspenders in white so they're disguised under your clothes but it might not be the most comfortable thing

A couple things you could try besides suspenders
>wearing a tank top under your clothes, so the petti's waistband has more to grip against
>wearing a tanktop and safety pinning the petti to it to hold it up
>fold the petti waistband into your bloomer/undies waistband (may not help in the case of really stretchy bloomers or a super heavy petti)
>fold the petti waistband into the top of your tights (I do this for a couple underskirts that are too big on me)

>>10512118
Do you mean you can see bits of white where the needle poked holes in the fabric? That’s a sign of cheap surface printing and IIRC The Funeral had the same issue.

What do you think about muscular lolitas who do sports? I started weight trainings recently and I'm not sure it's appropriate for a lolita

>>10512318
Don't respond to the bait, gulls

>>10512320
I'm dead serious, I feel much much better and I already kind of OK with that fact I won't be able to fit burando but what about the appearance?

>>10511879
>>10511919
Man, I was so pissed when the doll bodice won. Shit taste.
Either way, the JSK should have been planned as a preorder alongside the OP. I was considering getting the JSK, but it took so long for them to reveal full sample pics that I lost interest.

>>10511879
The way the doll cuts off at the legs makes it look like horrendous shit. Worse than taobao. But that's generally western lolita brands I guess.

>>10511879
I’ve never thought that her work was any good. The prints can be interesting ideas, but the execution from everything I’ve ever seen from her has been massively lacking, with very poor sewing execution even when the fabric itself has ended up ok.

>>10512354
The allover print on the OP looks nice though. It really pops in red.

>>10512323
would love to see a muscular lolita. You will look like a super hero

>>10511062
Oh you're a tranny, makes sense why you're derailing the thread and know jack shit about female proportions.

You will never be a woman, and when you become part of the 40%ers your parents will bury you with your real name.

>>10512359
The print is fine, I only said the doll looked like shit and western brands have shit taste when it comes to decisions like that (in this case, putting a doll with cut off legs, a design sin, in the middle of the bodice without so much as a wreath or flowers or anything to cement the design) .

>>10512364
I'm not arguing, just saying what I think of other stuff in the same collection.

>>10512270
Nta but that's exactly the case. It looks like a runner in tights. Had this in my funeral dress in black too. Everything she puts out feels so cheap, not buying clothes from her again.

>>10512318
Weight training is great and unless you're actually trying to put on muscle and inhaling protein like a bodybuilder, you don't have to worry about getting that big. In lolita I don't think it make much of a difference since most of your body is covered except your arms, so only your arms may look buff. Either way, I think it'd be cool.

I’ve been getting a lot of stuff from Japan recently that has that strong mothball smell to it. Recently I got a velveteen and faux fur coat that I’ve aired out for days and can’t get the odor out of. What’s the best way to get rid of it without just tossing it in the wash? I can’t quite do that to this coat without risking damage, so I’m looking for alternatives that’ll work. Cold air over night on the balcony has taken some out but it’s still pretty strong.

>>10512382
Maybe try taking it to the cleaners?

>>10512382
Tumble dry with a scent-absorbing dryer sheet.

>>10512318
>>10512323
I've been doing weight training for two years and a half now and as >>10512370 already said you won't put on enough muscles to be unable to fit into lolita clothes unless you take bodybuilder tier protein supplements. Worst fit issues I've had were with some old school short sleeves OPs and BTSSB socks feeling a bit tight but not to the point of being uncomfortable.

>>10511879
The design of the bodice is so plain I can see why she added something, but it should have been lace trim down the seams or actual sewing details. Imagine if this dress were solid black, it would have nothing going for it. Even print dresses need attention to detail.

>>10512369
I’m sorry about the disappointment but kinda glad you said this. Most people in my comm love VF and insist it’s amazing quality even while I can see the wonky stitching and cheap fabric from several meters away, so I was starting to think I alone have unreasonable standards.

>>10512417

Indie brand gaslighting is a real thing particularly for brands like VF. It's very obvious even from stock photos their fabric is subpar and construction is wonky on the model.

>>10512416
It's fine that she added something but the problem is that the something she added isn't well-liked, nor does it improve the design. I agree that she should've added lace trim or something instead.

>>10512417
>>10512439
I think some people really just want something to be good, to the point that they'll ignore obvious signs it's not good no matter what and defend it to death. VF and western indie brands are just one of those things.

>>10512360
Natal women don't get huge. And people who are muscular just look big when they arent flexing. I lift heavy and have been called fat or my legs fat on /cgl/ a few times. they're not fat at all just bigger than normal, you just aren't seeing me engage them like in the middle of a squat or DL so you don't see flexing definition

>>10512534
I know what you mean. /cgl/ would call this woman fat

>>10512583
She is swole and thicc and would probably beat most of cgl up in a fight.

>>10512318
Another weight lifting lolita chiming in. I've been doing it for 2 years. As others have said, as long as you are not lifting for excessive amounts of time and having loads of protein you will not get bulky. The only issue I've had with lolita is one of my OPs got a little too tight in the shoulders and around the biceps but it had been a bit tight to begin with anyway. That aside, all my brand still fits

>>10512583
Stop triggering my bisexuality anon, this woman is fucking sexy.
>>10512589
god I wish she would beat the shit out of me

>>10509416
When you go to the doctor it's generally good practice to wear an outfit with an easily removed top part so they can listen to your heart/lungs. If you're not going there to be pricked etc. then there shouldn't be a risk of blood, and if you live in a first world country it should be a reasonably clean environment.

t. med student

>>10512382
My go to for removing bad smells (if the fabric allows it) is spray with febreeze, steam with steamer and let dry, then repeat as many time as necessary (allow rest time in between)

>>10512382
Try putting it in your freezer. Weird, I know, but it works like a charm. Leave it there for a day or two.

>>10512662
Too bad febreze is a horrific smell

>>10512665
Fragrance free Febreeze is a thing

Have you guys seen this? Why is this so frumpy looking? What happened to BTSSB ?

>>10512741
Literally looks like a sack. So ugly

>>10512741
>What happened to BTSSB ?
Nothing, they release stupid stuff like this every so often, AP do the same. It's not really anything new

>>10512741
We need wtf burando thread

>>10512741
Looks like it’s designed for the tall fatties who are always complaining they don’t fit brand and they couldn’t find a model that fit.

>>10512752
Make one. Better than the scrote threads being made over and over.

>>10512360
Yes

I know it was only a day ago, but has anyone seen any photos from the Baby tea party in Shanghai?

>>10512741
Looks like Maria's Catholic Nun OP's ugly step sister

>>10512763
Done
>>10512775

Has anyone bought from kaneko shop? Did you liked the quality? Their pieces are quite expensive for me, so I want to hear reviews from others

>>10512098
>>10512221
I tried holding it up with a belt by having a bit of the petit over the top of the belt (sorry for the bad explanation lol) and that def lay flat enough under the dress and held up in the short-term. I'll still order suspenders to see how that works though, thank you guys for helping!

>>10512777
someone on FB had their sheer organza blouse fall apart due to poor construction so maybe not get the blouse...

>>10513028
Got any caps?

Does anyone else think it’s excessive when lolitas incorporate masks into their coords even though they’re not going to leave their home?

I’m fine when you go out, but you’re not getting COVID from a meetup on Zoom.

>>10513074
This is such a retarded thing to get worked up over. Who cares?

>>10513074
How do you know they didn't leave the house. Maybe they got dressed up for a zoom meet up and then went grocery shopping afterwards

>>10513074
Masks were common in jfashion before COVID was a thing, everyone is wearing them more now so of course they may want to wear them with coords. It's just another accessory, don't think too hard about it.

>>10513076
This is how I feel all the time scrolling through cgl.

>>10513110
same senpai, same

>>10512777
I saw the knight dress (sorry, don't remember the name) in person and it looked really, really cheap. The fabric had the same feeling as a shitty $30 dress I got from Chess Story once. I didn't even bother looking into the construction of it because the fabric was so awful and the cut was so simple that it could've had the best sewing in the world and it wouldn't have been enough to save it.
Shame, I liked that banquet dress they put out but it seems like it's made of the same kind of fabric.

>>10513151
I wish someone actually reviewed indie brands properly

>>10513074
Covid has become the greatest excuse to hide your face using masks. I can never seem to smile like a normal person on photos, so hiding it with cute mask is a nice solution. I know that you can also just put a sticker on your face, but I am often quite pleased with how my eye make-up looks.

>>10513530
This.

>>10509899
Different anon but it sounds like you have a shit therapist, they aren’t suppose to be there to make assumptions and judge you. My therapist saw the clothes as a change in my mood, too depressed couldn’t bring myself to anything fashion related or style my hair and getting better meant bits and bobs of the fashion would be mixed into what I was wearing and being in a good place is a full coord, accessories and style hair because they asked me if the clothes made me happy and my goal was to be back into wearing the fashion full time.

>>10514049
No shit, I don’t see her anymore. We had a good relationship up until that point though and it’s never fun starting over with a new shrink.

>>10508286
Anyone here ever bought the MeLikesTea Rose petticoat? I like the shape and am thinking of getting a 5 layer voile one cause thensite says voile won't deflate, and was curious if other people like them since I usually only see taobao pettis reccomended here.

>>10509893
Therapists are there in a professional capacity NOT to judge you. Psychiatrists/Psychologists can use their expert opinion to diagnose psychiatric issues such at BP, BPD, etc. but it is their educated opinion and they can/will give supporting evidence.

I've never had a therapist that judged me or my interests and if they did who gives a shit. It's their opinion and only your truth matters, unless you're completely delusional, not you just generally.

>>10514214
MLT is pettis are good, but you can get a Taobao one for way less and it’ll last just as long.

>>10514214
I didn't get the exact one that you're looking at, but MLT petticoats in voile are very nice. I personally prefer their voile petticoats over their organza because it's much more silky to the touch. I don't use my MLT organza petticoat often, but I use my voile ones more often (once a week) and they're still going strong 3 years on, though they did deflate just a little bit. I've never owned an A&A petticoat, so I can't compare, sorry.

>>10509792
I knew someone who made an ita bag insert panel and attached brand jewelry to it, that could be cute

>>10511879
Wtf? The way it cuts off like that is so awkward, looks like some Chinese bootleg toy packaging. The thing that made this dress interesting in the first place was the heart belt, I don't understand why they left that out? So disappointing

Does anyone have any photos of a 7 layer cupcake poof monster from MLT under an AP dress?

>>10514298
You might have a better chance asking in the worn photos thread.

Is your concern that AP skirts have enough room for a petti that big? They tend to have the most fabric/fullest skirts of any sweet brands I have owned

>>10509884
This.

>>10514300
Thanks. And I am pretty sure they'll fit under all my stuff, I just wanna make sure its not an ugly amount of poof that just looks overstuffed before I drop $150 on it. I want to be right on that border between mega poof and overstuffed if you feel me.

>>10514304
Depends on AP of when? Because AP high waisted can support a lot of poor, but the lower waist dresses are A line and flatter. They look off with too much poof underneath. Baby needs those 7 layer pettis.

>>10514305
>Baby needs those 7 layer pettis

Most BABY I've owned is far more A line than AP other than AP tiered JSKs and holds way less poof than AP. AP is way more cupcake than A line generally

>>10514333
I have the opposite. I wear max 2 pettis with AP that needs a lot of poof, but every Baby dress I have needs 3+

>>10509884
That would be wonderful. Can someone shop this?

>>10514340
If you have to wear multiple petticoats your petticoats are shit

>>10514368
this. what are these people wearing, leg avenue pettis?

couldn't find the stupid questions thread so I will ask here. recently got a lumiebre umbrella, it has plastic covering the handle. do I remove it?

>>10514573
You can keep it on for protection if you want and it's not that noticable, but it's meant for protecting the goods before it's purchased by customers, just like those plastic sheets on tvs and phone screens

>>10514340
Your petticoats are trash, get better ones.

>>10514540
Even then, I used to make the mistake of wearing a shitty one like that with brand and I still didn't need more than one for any cotton dress with inbuilt petti.

it seems like sweet has passed it's peak popularity point and is on a steady decline again, what do you guys think will be the next trending substyle? Personally I think we might see OTT Classic make a comeback lmao

>>10514583
perfect, thank you!

>>10514610
people are bidding $330 on a piss stained sugary carnival and you really think sweet is on a decline?

>>10514621
considering the market has slowed down compared to a couple months ago, yes I do. SC has always been a popular print

>>10514621
SC isn't the only determinant of sweet. Every sweet wearer I know is still buying all the time, just not overpriced damaged OTT sweet stuff.

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>>10514540
>>10514368
I layer brand pettis. It gives an even, less lumpy shape compared to a giant petti like MLT. I have one of those and don't like it

>>10514298
I do but not gonna self post. Search MLT on CoF and see if anyone tagged it, I might've discussed mine a couple times idr

>>10511364
If you're anywhere near the places folks are moving out of, go to the thrift stores and estate sales.
I picked up a solid maple wingback chair the other day that's normally 900 or so for literally 20 usd.