/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I wonder if AP is going to try to fix this since so many people's bears are defective. $145 for warped wings and fucked up stars lmao

now i have two satanic milky bears.

>>10507427
Nah. AP doesn't give a shit and hasn't for years. This is why the Bears are fucked in the first place. They already know they can get away with cheap polyester sack dresses so why bother fixing this shitty bear? Besides, return policies aren't really a thing in Japan anyway. APfags are fucked.

>>10507433
Honestly the stars thing seems a bit nitpicky, fur moves around. The wings being wonky is bad though.

>>10507463
are you stupid?

>>10507463
Did you see on the one on LM? The nose is fucked up too

I'm glad I didn't drop $145 for such a fucked up bear lol

'member when the hanikami bear bags didn't even sell out fast? and were cheaper than these bastards and 10x better quality? I 'member

Can't wait until sweet is the black sheep of lolita substyles again and I can buy all the trendlitas main pieces for $120-150

>>10507468
>I'm glad I didn't drop $145 for such a fucked up bear lol

Girl, same.

I was seriously considering it because I don't own any plush bags. If I was going to buy one, I'd want it to be some sort of "special" bag like a limited release. But $145 is way too much for a fucking plush toy with a zipper pocket, let alone if it's going to be all fucked up.

>>10507490
People are better off buying a used kumya or something off of fril or LM than trusting AP lately it seems.

I do wonder how refunds may work since it's the US store and there is a huge problem with defective bears. Japan has a no refund culture but a factory defect will probably mean that the US store will get pressured into refunds if people complain.

>>10507430

To be honest I'd have bought this, goes perfect with the original Milky Cross jsk with the upside down pentagram on the back.

To receive it like this when you're expecting a wholesome bear is another story, though. That's pretty bad QC.

>>10507467
Yeah, but it's kind of hard to feel sorry for her when she's still trying to sell it at or above retail.

New release items have been announced for this weekend. These are the ugliest shoes I have ever seen.

>>10507509
They look like if someone wanted to make loafers lolita.

>>10507509
showed these to my bf and he said they're thomas jefferson 76s

>>10507509
Oh my god, it's terrible

>>10507509
where can i see the rest of the monstrosities?

>>10507508
Eh, I don't. AP doesn't do refunds so not sure how shes supposed to get her money back.


Still not buying it tho kek

>>10507520
Take it to the stupid questions thread. Why are there so many children on this site?

>>10507517
KEK

>>10507509
I like the other colors, but I don’t like the bunny ears. I could easily wear these to office otherwise.

I guess I’ll do a dump. First up is the Twinkle Muse JSK. It comes in navy, pink, and lavender and has the star lace popularized by that one Taobao underskirt.

>>10507533
The matching headpiece appears to be the Three Stars Clip. Colors are gold, silver, pink, and black. To differentiate it from other clips it has a tassel I guess.

>>10507534
Also being released this week is the Children’s Room JSK. Despite the name it’s just a basic polkadot that comes in red, black, pink, and sax.

>>10507535
There’s also a salopette in the same colorways.

>>10507536
The headbow is cute and plain enough to be worn with other dresses, same colors as the dress and salopette of course.

>>10507537
AP is also releasing the Color Dot Bolero, my personal favorite from this week’s releases. It comes in ivory, pink, lavender, red, and black.

>>10507539
The Bunny College Cardigan that’s almost guaranteed to be popular. The colorways are white, pink, sax, wine, and black.

>>10507540
Bunny College OTKs are finally here! The colors are white, grey, pink, navy, and black.

>>10507541
The Bunny College shoes have already been posted here but I’m bringing them up again to mention colorways and sizing. They’re being sold in ivory, pink, brown, and black, sizes S, M, and L only.

>>10507542
Last item for this week!

The Frill Millefeuille Umbrella comes in white, ivory, pink, and black.

>>10507535
Thumb up if spotted a rerelease

>>10507539
Why no fur accessories tho? These look so lovely with fur collar and cuffs, and it actually suits the season.

>>10507508
Probably trying to sell it because of the defect in an attempt to get money back.

>>10507535
Guessing it's poly but desu this is the cutest AP solid to me since the more old school looking bunny lucky pack dress earlier this year or last.

>>10507537
These headbows would have been amazingly adorable if all the colors weren't dusty and muted (red aside).

>>10507540
This is literally burando schoolwear, when will AP college open? I want my bachelors in lolita fashion.

>>10507545
No shit, but no one is going to pay retail or more for a bag she herself listed under major damage. It’s a defect and not her fault but she needs to cut her losses.

>>10507548
I can’t hope for cotton anymore, but this would be precious in cotton. Finally a nonprint that’s not a shiny garbage bag at least

>>10507556
This looks like a rerelease of the Nursery JSK, which was cotton. (Part wool for the tartan print.)

>>10507555
Sounds like you want a deal on it lmao

>>10507427
They’re not defective. Look at the OP picture, it’s advertised with a funky face.

>>10507563
>Warped wings

>>10507571
This was a joke anon. It’s funny how they couldn’t be bothered to use a pretty bear with a symmetrical face for the advertisement.

Did AP show a proper winter/Christmas print yet? Something like Fancy Noel, Sugar Dream Dome, Jewelry Snow, Snow Glass Dome or Lovely Snow Fantasy?

>>10507535
i'm disappointed that it looks so short

>>10507542
I wonder why AP has stopped releasing LL? It’s always the first size to completely sell out I don’t understand.

Tea Party tickets are up on the Paris site.

>>10507490
I do have an old hanikami bear bag I bought from AP like 3ish years ago. Maybe 2, maybe 4, idk. It was only like $110? And is pretty nice quality. Not as nice as my usakumya/kumakumya but it's still nice.

Does the anniversary milky bear even have posable arms/legs? I can't tell from the pictures

>>10507617
It sounds fun but at the same time I don't want to pay $50USDish for a couple hours of interacting with strangers over zoom...I can't wait for tea parties in general to be in person again.

>>10507626
The wings are posable kek

>>10507617
I got a ticket because usually Paris is pretty good about getting all of the exclusive items available in Japan. Its at a really inconvenient time for my time zone.

>>10507535
I know it’s a common cut and pattern, and I’m sure it’s a coincidence, but this is identical to an old dreamv dress

>>10507539
This is fucking depressing compared to old AP boleros.

>>10507709
it's actually a re-release of the 2011 nursery jsk. They just translated it differently this time, but the japanese name is the same (子供部屋). The dreamv dress looks like a cheap replica but i'm not sure which one came first.

>>10507539
this is fucking soulless, it looks like something lazy oaf would make

>>10507725
I actually hate polka dots

>>10507789
shit taste

>>10507626
Yes, the arms and legs are posable.

>>10507719
The polka dots are also bigger this time.

>>10507791

>>10507812
bigger dots, very different fabric, it doesn't hang as nice anymore

>>10507502
i'm honestly not bothered by it. it hasn't decreased the resale value in my experience, and i think it's cute because it makes my bears "special". but yes... it is a defect.

>>10507901
I think the face/wonky star is fine, but the wing thing is a whole nother issue.

It looked like it was bearly (kek) hanging on

>>10507560
Mint is an ugly color and Milky Bears are inferior to Kumyas. People on /cgl/ really love screaming poorfag

>>10507417
When was the last cotton release? I'm drawing a blank here

>>10507989
Toy doll box?

>>10507989
I think the last print was Sweet Lacy Basket if we're not counting rereleases.

>>10507995
I think it was toy doll box sweet lacy basket came out in spring and toy doll box winter iirc either way those were the last two

>>10507719
oh you're right! i had no idea. its clear the dreamv version was a knockoff of this.

>>10508066
sucks that the current version looks just as bad as the knockoff version

>>10507989
The base of Topping Heart was cotton, but all the ruffles and such were polyester. So I'm not sure if that counts.

Toy Doll Box was AP's last good release.

>>10507539
Why is AP so against details now? Even items like cutsews and boleros had wonderful tiny details that make the price tag worth it. This is simple garbage.

>>10508070
seeing this picture both fills my me with joy and sadness. i miss old ap.

>>10507539
I can't get over how ugly this is. It's hideous.

It kills me that AP knows people still buy cotton prints (rereleases and MTOs) buy they refuse to release new prints in cotton.

>>10507539
Ugly as sin

I wish AP would release a happy pack with a unique (and fun) print like Dream Fantasy/Cotton Candy/tea time a la carte. What was the last happy pack exclusive print? That lackluster poly toy print in 2019? Ugh

>>10508133
Please no more poly vs. cotton debate. There are pros and cons to both and they decided for poly, we need to live with that and not make every single release about it. They haven’t released cotton in ages, yet every release I see countless „no cotton again?“ posts. It’s annoying, get over it, move on.

>>10508171
Well it's upsetting. They are rereleasing cotton prints so why not make some new ones? Toy Doll box was very popular.

Wow, I'm pleasantly surprised at how chill the AP USA Melody Toys release was. As expected, all the dresses are still in stock because they've been rereleased so many times.

The only thing that went super fast was the bear jewelry. I almost wanted one, but I just can't bring myself to think bears are cute. Instead, I rolled out of bed and had enough time to find my credit card and enter it by hand to get my missing color of the bunny toy necklace.

Did everyone forget about this release because black friday/Thanksgiving? Or do Americans not like Melody Toys?

I got the Bunny Toy in ring and in the necklace, in pink! Very satisfied.

>>10508404
I wish the fuckers would re-release the SOCKS. And I'm sure lots of people wish they'd re-release the shirred/regular waist jsk. Why won't they?

>>10508404
I am visiting family and their different time zone is different and I was too late. I wanted to get a ring. Dang.

>>10508409
Seconded on the socks. And the bear and bunny bags. I love this stupid bag.. I feel like it's coming though. Maybe when they rerelease it again.

>>10508407
Congrats anon! I feel stupid for not getting the matching ring for my necklace, but it's whatever I guess. I don't really wear rings.

>>10508411
It's Christmas for my wife, and she wanted the bunny necklace in pink. I feel bad because she wanted the bear ring in pink and I misunderstood, but I think she's falling in love with this pink bunny bitch and will (hopefully!) like both.

>>10508404
I got two rings. I brought them separately. Can I get AP to combine the order?

>>10508415
yes just email them.

>>10508415
This is from their "Shipping and Returns" page.

I've emailed them before, but I've never gotten a refund for shipping.

>>10508424
yeah, they combine them for free when i asked but i don't get refunds for shipping.

I've come to the conclusion that AP USA is ghetto af.

I recently got an order from them. No AP bag. Just the garment bag stuffed inside an overpriced priority flatrate box. And the tags are like, torn? Looks like they tore off the perforated part and it also tore some of the pink part of the tag logo off. I'm mad, I collect tags and these look like trash. Also kind of pissed I didn't get a bag?!

>>10508404
ugh i totally forgot. i guess i'll have to buy my dumb bears scalped like i planned.
>>10508427
i don't know, i've had pretty good experiences since it was packed in plastic and didn't expect any shopping bags since they give those out in-store. Paris sometimes puts smaller items in their bags. every AP order i've bought regardless of location has always been stuffed inside a too-small box, too. don't whine about the dumb tags tho, buy Ana-chan's tag lot if you really care that much about them. kek

>>10508427
I wish they didn't fucking touch the tags. Always tearing off the bottom part is indeed ghetto.

>>10508427
I hate when they tear off the tags too. I think it might just be one salesgirl though because it’s not every time.

>>10508427
Maybe I'm being dumb but why tear off the tag? Do you mean just the part at the bottom that shows the price? That's weird

>>10508483
Not even.

>>10508472
>>10508470
>>10508484
one of the shop girls does that to signify it's sold? i don't remember, my friend who used to work there mentioned some girls having weird weeb habits, like handing things to customers with both hands and shit like they think japanese do.

Lots of Japanese stores tear the perforated part off to keep it for inventory/stock purposes

I don't know why they do it sometimes and don't other times, but it's not a specific AP thing as I've had tags from other Japanese brand stores tear off and keep the perforated parts (and when I asked once, that's what they told me)

However yes I mad my past few orders from AP USA came in ziploc bags. Like c'mon. Really makes me feel like I'm buying luxury brand goods when they show up in cheap ziploc bags.

>>10508499
>Like c'mon. Really makes me feel like I'm buying luxury brand goods when they show up in cheap ziploc bags.

Yeah, I fucking hate it. It's fairly recent, too. I used to always get a shopping bag with my orders straight from AP USA. Hell, sometimes they'd even send a post card without there being a novelty fair going on. idk why they're being so cheap lately?

>>10508427
>>10508499
You guys have been getting bags? I've been buying from AP USA since 2016 and have never received a bag.

>>10508404
All of these cuts look like shit

>>10508510
That’s nice but it’s a rerelease

>>10508504
No, though my last order came in a plain ziplock bag

>>10508503
>>10508504
for smaller shit not so much, but for main pieces like blouses or dresses I'd get a pink branded bag. My past 4 orders since this summer, I haven't gotten a single bag. But from Paris or JP store, I still get one, so I don't know is USA ran out and just aren't getting sent anymore or what.

>>10508510
Speaking of.

How much do you think I could get for the shirred/regular waist version of Melody Toys in blue? If I can get $650+ for it (including the bow) I'd sell it but not any less than that.

>>10508515
I don’t think you could get that much desu with the other cuts so readily available

>>10508515
$350 if even that, there’s a bunch on Xianyu going for about under $300 and they aren’t selling

>>10508503
I bet they're going to close soon

Hope they have a liquidation sale

>>10508514
I never got bags with my JSKs back in 2016/2017. All I've ordered since then have been accessories, so maybe I'm just unlucky.

>>10508532
even if that does happen, they'd just send their stock back to the main branch, the most I can imagine them doing is maybe 20% off

I had an epiphany and realized that I don't like modern AP, like Royal Crown Berry was the last AP release I got excited about.

With that said, does anyone want my anniversary coupon? It starts dec 1st, but unless they make a MTO of some of the older cotton sweets, I cant see myself using it.

>>10508409
I love the regular waist jsk and regret not buying one when sweet was cheap. AP is super dumb, there's no reason to not rerelease the other cuts too.

>>10509045
What does the coupon entail? And are you selling it?

My email is attached.

>>10509062
Free shipping over $50

No, thats lame. But if you wanna give me money, go for it.

It's not?

>>10509062
I meant to say "can you attach your email." Sorry for being a dumbass lol.

>>10509065
lmao it's cool, email is: Prettygsailormoon@yahoo.com

>>10509045
I feel the same. I fucking love the older dresses but everything that's coming out now is disappointing.

>>10508484
Is it a sale item? I believe they do that on sale items to indicate it was bought on sale, not sure why because it’s not like they accept returns anyway

>>10509255
Right? Like if it isn't shitty cuts, it's ugly prints

>>10508411
I also want them to re-release the plush bags. I have been waiting for years with each re-release and still am.

>>10509268
Nope... Full price.

>>10508496
The main shop girl is the manager and she’s from Japan and yes she does hand stuff to you with two hands. It’s just a nice / culture thing.

As for the tags, I’m pretty sure they save the prices bit so they can use it for accounting. Being upset over a tag is fucking stupid.

why would they need to keep the tags? its 2020, you think stores don't have extensive POS systems?

>>10509255
I miss when they released cute skirts and casual sets.

>>10507535
Oh I bought the original off LM the other month, super weird they're re-releasing it. I wonder if the fabric is the same??
>https://lolibrary.org/items/ap-nursery-jsk

>>10509738
It’s not, it’s poly

>>10509740
Thats a shame, the original one is really great for autumn. The new release doesn't look as 'durable' as the new one

>>10509743
old one* oops
Did they not advertise this as a rerelease? or are AP hoping we didn't recognise this one to disguise it as a 'new' release lmao

>>10509744
Listen up vanilla_carnival you gotta get off this board and go check LM for AP to force your saggy chafing tits into

>>10509751
stay mad anon x

>>10508427
They tear off the tag so you can't tell how badly AP USA is marking the dresses up. If you want to keep the tags intact you are better off with an SS.

Any news on the timing for the Hanikami Bears and Bunnies bags? Either for the JP or paris stores.

>>10510290
I picked mine up from the store last weekend in Japan

>>10509751
idk what the salt is but on the topic of her, are all her dresses altered or something? before i lost weight i didn't fit into some of the dresses on her page and visually i was smaller so i'm curious how she manages it.

>>10508427
>>10509785
they tear the tags in the Shibuya store, pretty sure it's a company-wide policy

>>10510313
Who cares? This is the AP thread
>>10509751 anon just needs to take their nap

>>10510290
Mine shipped from the JP store already.

Unfortunately Japan suspended EMS to Canada so either I can wait 2+ months for surface mail or pay probably the same cost as the bags for DHL fees and customs.

>>10510392
EMS isn't suspended to Canada, anon. You're thinking of the US.

>>10510395
Nayrt but it is suspended to Canada, it was announced recently.

>>10510396
nta but i just got an ems delivery last week.

>>10510396
They aren't accepting new packages after November 27th.

>>10510397
It was suspended on the 27th, retard https://www.post.japanpost.jp/int/information/2020/1126_01_en.html

Stupid question, but has anyone's order from AP USA's Melody Toys release been shipped yet? Mine shipped the 29th, but according to tracking, USPS hasn't received it yet.

Does AP USA always hold onto packages for a few days before actually shipping them?

>>10510578
The 29th as in Sunday? Most businesses don’t ship on Sundays.

>>10510578
Mine hasn't shipped either. A shipping label was created on the 29th, but USPS hasn't received it yet.

>>10510579
Yeah, I got an email that it was shipped on the 29th. The tracking just says the shipping label was created but there's no scans from USPS yet. I thought I'd see one today at least because they could have dropped it off yesterday (the 30th). I was just wondering if anyone else's package actually had a scan.

>>10510586
Thanks anon! I feel relieved. That probably means they are just hoarding all our packages until they can get them to USPS.

>>10510588
I work for a company that ships out a lot of volume. We don’t get pickups every day. Even though USPS pickups are free you still have to schedule them and it can be a hassle to do it all the time, it’s better to wait and have several packages at once.

>>10510290
Image stolen from mercari, but I'm so excited for my Lyrical bag. This color of sax is pretty much perfect.

>>10509342
>it's 2020
>buying from a Japanese brand
Sorry anon but nothing in Japan is digitized. They love pushing paper.

>>10510741
I'm excited for my bunny bag too. Wished I ordered the bear also. The sax one looks great.

>>10510752
I ordered a bunny. I have a bear from a previous release, and I love him!

>>10510314
They tear the tags at the SF store also.

>>10510761
are you even following?

>>10510752
I have a feeling that AP USA is going to list a lot of extra stock (like what happened with Wrapping Heart and Toy Doll Box). So we might be able to snag Hanikami there?

Giant cross is back for Laforet, this time on Holy Rosary instead of Holy Lantern.

>>10510802
Letter necklace, this seems like it will be available at all stores later on.

>>10510803
And the ring, super cute.

>>10510804
New colors of the apron! Pink x red like pic related and yellow x pink.

>>10510806
Lovely Poodle tote bag too! It's probably the next print.

>>10510807
Special JSK set for Girly Sticker in dark pink! Based on the patterns lately they'll probably make it available for Paris and/or the US stores too.

>>10510808
They're also releasing a cutsew OP for British Bear which I think is new? And it's so cute! Comes in ivory, wine, blue, and green.

>>10510809
The Bear Glitter Ribbon cutsew dress is also getting released, it comes in wine and navy. Looks comfy.

>>10510810
They're releasing the Striped Logo Rosetta brooches in pink, mint, and grey.

>>10510811
As I mentioned in the first image these releases are for Laforet, not the week's normal releases. They're doing another round of perfume reservations too and there's this adorable poodle tag novelty.

>>10510812
The glitter inside looks exactly like the cheap one I got on aliexpress a while ago

>>10510813
It’s a novelty, and you only have to spend like 5.5k yen to get it.

>>10510809
If this had a normal or low waist I’d be all over it

>>10510741
Thats a monkey

>>10510807
Fucking hate polka dots

>>10510813
were you expecting custom glitter? it's just shiny plastic shit.

>>10510807
I’m so sad this print is in such muted colors

>>10511055
I'm sad it's not in cotton.

>>10510807
That looks so cheap in polyester. Why bother, AP?

Lovely Poodle is meh

>>10511250
I like the print and the cuts, but somehow overall it's just...meh. It's weird, it's everything I like and I should like it, but I don't really care about it. Anyway I'll dump now.

>>10511255
The colors are pink, mint, and grey as previewed. There's a headbow too of course, not gonna make a separate post for it.

>>10511256
The Bear Striped Ribbon cutsew dress is getting a release company wide in pink, ivory, brown, and black. Cutsew dresses seem to be the only way to get AP cotton now.

>>10511258
They're also rereleasing the Milky Bear clip, white, pink, and sax as before. Would have been color if they'd added new colors, lavender would have been cute.

>>10511259
And here's the Lovely Love Letter jewelry, the colors are pink, red, lavender, and black. I'm not going to post the ring again, that seems redundant.

>>10511260
The Lovely Love Letter shoulder bag shown with Lovely Poodle is also being released, the colors are white, pink, and black.

>>10511261
The Fairy Frill Apron is being rereleased again too with a ton of exclusive colors, let's hope I get them all right below. The regular release colors are pink x sax, white x pink, sax x pink, and lavender x pink, just like the last release.

White x red: Shinjuku, Omiya
Pink x white: Shibuya
Pink x pink: Shibuya
Pink x red: Harajuku, Osaka
Yellow x pink: Harajuku
Black x white: Kanazawa, Omiya, online
Black x pink: Shinjuku

>>10511264
Standard Lovely Lace-up Tights, pink, ivory, white, lavender, and black.

>>10511265
Girly Sticker tote bag, it comes in pink and black. I don't really see the point of AP making so many polyester tote bags. Cotton is strong and can hold a lot of weight but polyester tote bags are more likely to tear. Oh well.

>>10511266
And the last item for the week, the Noble Collection tote bag that only comes in black.

>>10511255
I like this cut and color but not the print.

>>10511255
Still hoping there'll some poodle jewelry eventually.

>>10511269
Me too. There are so many cute poodle motifs on the dress.

>>10511255
I can't put my finger on why but the illustrations feel so... Amateur? They look really flat and just a bit... Off. Very disappointing

>>10511282
It gives me taobao vibes tbf

The days of good AP releases really are over huh... I know they've been making ugly shit for a while now but the new print really feels like a nail in the coffin for me and it's really sad.

>>10511258
this isn't cotton, cutsews aren't cotton at all.

>>10511261
>>10511260

The only good things releasing this time. When will you apfags finally admit that Baby is the reigning champ of sweet now?

>>10511350
Yes they are. Shut up if you haven't a clue.

Are we not getting lucky packs this year??? They usually always announce them on December 1st or earlier. This will be the first year AP hasn't offered them.

>>10510867
Polka dots are based. You on the other hand are not

>>10511379
cutsew material, which is jersey isn't cotton.

>>10511433
Jersey is not a label for a fiber. What are you even trying to argue.

>>10511474
every AP cutsew i have ever had is polyester.

>>10511477
nayrt but jersey is a type of fabric and can be made of cotton or poly. I imagine most recent AP cutsews are poly

>>10511478
the one up thread definitely doesn't look like cotton.

>>10511477
nta, but you said jersey isn't cotton which is just wrong lmao. Jersey is just a knitting type it isn't any specific fiber. In fact most brand cutsews aren't even jersey knit they're interlock as it's more sturdy than jersey. And they are usually cotton Every AP cutsew I have seen says it is cotton in the fiber content list (and on OPs, the cutsew part is also cotton). You really just don't know what you're talking about.

>>10511479
yeah, the Old School cutsew op was also polyester and it looks similar

>>10511433
Cutsew from AP lately are a cotton lycra blend.

>>10511481
i am not the same anon but okay.

>>10511492
lycra is poly bro.

>>10511481
Anon, most cutsews are blended poly and cotton at best. Get your head out of your ass.

>>10511492
>>10511477
And every AP cutsew I own is cotton. That's not an argument. Just look at their website. The only polyester cutsew is made of faux fur. Literally all the rest are made of cotton for the main body. The skirt portion and sleeves are only sometimes polyester. Which above cutsew OP doesn't even have separate fabrics for. It's cotton.

>>10511508
The point is you are also wrong about jersey being cotton 100% of the time. It's a case by case thing and you sound like a larper.

>>10511510
Nayrt but nobody said that jersey is always made of cotton, just that it's a knitting type and not a fiber. But expecting reading comprehension is too much of a high standard on this taiwanese mango harvesting website.

>>10511349
I'm a diehard AP whore and I've been thinking about this lately. I only watch AP for accessories and re-releases. I haven't bought a new release dress in at least 3 years. I'm pretty scared that older AP will continue to become more and more coveted as the modern releases stray further away from what people want. There's just no magic anymore and everyone is thirsty for what they used to be.

>>10511367
Because the lasting image of AP sweet is still superior. AP sucks now, but no one can erase the iconic releases in the past. Baby is boring to me because it's more mature in general. It was never, and probably will never be, as bright and fantastical as AP.

>>10511535
Some new baby prints are pretty cute but they can't hold a candle to 2010 AP. But next to current baby current AP looks like a trash fire. It's depressing

>>10511535
>>10511537
Yeah I agree. Baby sweet prints just aren't my style, but neither is the ugly new AP stuff. Last releases I liked were Ice Cream Parlor and Toy Doll Box. Sucks that ice cream parlor was poly, tho.

I guess it just leaves me with more money to buy other dresses I'm looking for. Well, sorta. Everything I want is selling for more than it retailed for. ughhhhh

>>10511537
Agreed that quality wise, Baby is doing much better. I haven't really seen any decline in the design/art or materials. I wonder why AP took such a sudden down turn. It makes me hold onto my stuff even tighter.

>>10511542
I would have bought Ice Cream Parlor and Be My Valentine, or even Fruity Lemon, if they were on cotton. For some reason on polyester they just look lifeless. I own older polyester dresses like Eternal Party etc, but the polyester had a purpose in construction. There's really no reason why simple print dresses should have been switched to polyester.

>>10511504
They aren't wrong about the jersey thing though. People who don't understand the difference between fiber content and weave/knit type shouldn't get involved in discussions about fabric.

>>10511533
Actually someone above said "it's not cotton it's jersey" which is retarded

>>10511568
Otome killed AP, seriously, like this whole mess started when AP tried to cater to Otome when lolita started "declining" a few years ago.

>>10511575
>>10511574
Who cares, calm your autism.

>>10511578
otome isn't even a real style there. AP is following chinese trends and all chinese girls want is to look like fluffy floaty fairy rozen maiden bjds. and it wouldn't. matter to them if the pieces were made of real chocolate and melted after one wear.

>>10511504
Please post proof because I can't find a single one on their website or lolibrary.

This is the cover of the 2021 AP novelty calendar. I swear some of these bunnies are new... I'm freaking out. New bunny print in 2021?

>>10511706
Too bad it will probably be poly

>>10511776
can we please stop with the poly autism. i don't like it either but mentioning it every post is annoying

>>10511778
Sounds like ur mad about ur plastic dresses anon

Did AP USA forget to the add the Glitter Love Heart Tote Bag? ... I can't find it anywhere.

AP should die

>>10511984
I watched the "Bags" page and even put it in the search bar and I never saw it listed before or after 12 PST.

>>10511984
Sorry, anon. Didn't see it either.
>>10511985
There are too many AP simps, it won't die

>>10511986
>>10511985
Like goth shit?
Like vampires?
Like hiphop/rap
Then listen to this amazing mixtape made by ELEVEN it is fire as fuck if you don't your mother will die in her sleep tonight thanks!
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>>10511991
Literally the only thing I was interested in. I am cursed. Oh well... it wasn't a super great item.

I hope others were able to get what they wanted. I thought it was interesting that they didn't have the lavender Twinkle Star Toy necklace. That one wasn't store limited and even Paris had it.

Know what's much better than AP? Loving and spiritual sex with someone you love. It's a bond like nothing else.I would kill myself if I couldn't have sex anymore, because it's such an emotional bond

Hate the bib on Toys Museum. Think I can get away with buying it and a tote, cut it off and use the tote material for a better top?

>>10512004
The bib is detachable, underneath is just a normal jsk/op neckline

>>10512008
Oh fuck yes

>>10511258
It’s cotton except for the lace, just like 99% of AP cutsew dresses, so all the larpers can shut up now.

>>10511578
>Larme killed AP
Fixed it for you.

>>10512299
if AP could make good larme that would at least be nice, but no, its just like they got amnesia and started from scratch at some point

Is anyone holding out hope for a lucky pack announcement? Don't they usually announce them on December 1st?

>>10511266
>>10511267
I view these totes as extra fabric for alterations

Christmassy Milky-chan applique https://item.fril.jp/0c28838afbdf1415f5e9e1784124e3bc

>>10511255
Dunno why but this print gives me hardcore Bodyline vibes.
Also, is it now fashionable to wear your lolita clothes sizes bigger? Gurl looks like she's drowning in the dress

>>10512352
>Also, is it now fashionable to wear your lolita clothes sizes bigger?

Literally yes unfortunately. At least according to some anons' interpretations of trends.

>>10512345
Ugh I’ve been looking for this for a long time and of course it sells while I was sleeping. And for a price cut too.

>>10512397
I’m sorry, anon. I just bought one of the old applique dresses (not Milky-chan) and it’s adorable, everyone should get the applique dress of their dreams. I hope you find it soon.

>>10512356
>some anons' interpretations of trends.
it's literally the trend in jfash right now. even shit brands like dreamv are doing it.

>>10512356
Too bad the cut is always wrong, other wise me and my fat tiddies would be having a ball.

>>10512352
Because both look like cheap poly

>>10512352
>Also, is it now fashionable to wear your lolita clothes sizes bigger?
As a chestlet a lot of the newer brand releases are too big on me now and it fucking sucks. Past a certain point of tightening the lacing I just get bunched up fabric in the back, im not even going for oversized frumpy look

>>10512397
The listing says they also have it in pink, see if you can get an SS to ask about it.

>>10512457
thank you for the tip. I actually have the brown polkadot one already thanks to a kind anon on here. I would only buy the red one because it was always my first choice. This is the first time I saw it for sale.

>>10512400
Thanks for your kind words. As I mentioned, I do have one of my second choice colorways but it still stings. I love AP’s appliqués so much. It’s unfortunate they’ll never make them again.

>>10510809
These are up on AP Paris if anyone’s interested. They made a surprise announcement on Facebook.

>>10512493
we been knew
>>10512489
i almost bought the dress when i saw it this morning, but it's not my preferred colorway >< i hope you can get your applique, anon! love finds a way!

The secondhand AP market is so incredibly boring right now. Feels like everyone is hoarding everything that's actually good. I check sites frequently but barely anything new is listed. Maybe my wishlist is just too small and too rare now.

So is the majority of cgl asian or what? I cant imagine there are this many ugly white chicks out there wanting to dress up like this.

>>10512582
i agree with this.

>>10512584
i do not agree with this.

>>10512331
I’m still waiting. They’ve been announced a few days into December in the past. It’s not past hope yet

>>10512584
Just ugly landwhales full of salt anon.

>>10512617
Don't reply to scrote baits anon-chan

sweet is dead and AP killed it. carnival jsk rerelease when?

>>10512641
I doubt AP will ever do velvet again, even non screen printed like this. At least any time soon. I’d be happy to be wrong though, I’d kill for a Carnival rerelease.

>>10512641
Never going to happen.
We can't even get a Sugary Carnival or Milky Planet rerelease.

>>10512641
They'll never do velvet again because it's not a profit cash cow like poly taobao esque shit.

>>10512641
They did a while ago. Where have you been?

>>10512651
Nayrt but this hasn't been rereleased for a long time. The fact it happened 5+ years ago doesn't really count for current day events.

>>10512414
Funny since that BL dress only comes in cotton.

>>10512663
It's literally not cotton though. It's a blend of shit.

>>10512645
They already did a re-release for both of these, newfag.

>>10512740
Yeah like, ages ago?!? How is something that was rereleased over half a decade ago relevant to today's market?

>>10512641
It was just re-released 3 years ago for the 10th anniversary of the print. They released every cut, color and accessory of the original release except the two location specific exclusive colorways. They pop up on the second hand market fairly often and they are often cheaper than what the retail went for.

>>10512744
>How is something that was rereleased over half a decade ago relevant to today's market?

How is something that was released over a decade ago relevant to today's market?

AP only cares about what Japanese lolitas want. If no Japanese lolitas are asking for rereleases, then we won't get a rerelease. AP has done rereleases for all 3 prints you mentioned, as far as they know/are concerned, their market is satisfied and they go on to focus on new releases.

>>10512744
Real lolitas who wanted them were able to get them by now. On top of the re-release, you could easily get both prints in any colorway since about a year ago on the second hand market for well under retail.

The only people complaining about no third SC/MP release are new or trendhoppers and no one cares what you think.

>>10512772
I want a SC rerelease because it’s a horribly faded print. I wouldn’t even mind poly at this point. I have the lavender JSK and it’s turning white.

>>10512800
What the hell did you do to it to make it fade so bad

>>10512810
nayrt but probably sun exposure and washing over several years

So I was excited for the bag MTO, but wow AP is really sliding. These ears are definitely not the same length. Image stolen from mercari again.

I'm fearful of how messed up mine will be.

>>10512772
>real lolitas
Feels like you're just trying to gaslight anon. You sound like a troll.

Even a few years ago, Sugary Carnival was always the first dress to go on CC updates. And most secondhand dresses were in horrible condition because of how popular SC was in its day and because of how much it was worn by everyone. Even when there were opportunities to buy the dress, people probably passed it up in hopes of finding a better condition one. (Because please don't tell me as a "real lolita" you buy every dress as soon as it pops up, even with missing waist ties and torn hem lace).

It's not far fetched at all that a lot of people came into the fashion after the rerelease (which was much closer in time to the first release than to 2020). Also it's not like everyone has their list of dress to buy 100% figured out at day one. I used to hate Sugary Carnival, but the more I grew into sweet, the more I liked it, so it became part of my wardrobe later. All these same things apply to Milky Planet.

>>10511255
What actually caused AP to lose its interest in using cotton etc?
Even then, It's not even just cotton thats the problem, it seems like all their prints have just became really half assed. Did they lose one of their designers?

>>10512352
the quality of the print and the fabric and lace seem similar, too. wow.

>>10512844
I like the poodle print layout a lot better. Princess cat is too high up on the skirt. Too bad the poodle dress cuts are plain and ugly

>>10512840
>gaslight

Just because you were a taobao ita who now wants OTT sweet AP cotton dresses doesn't mean anyone cares what you think. Also there were places other than CC and LM to get these prints NW(WO)Ts. I saw tons over the years and you can still find the sold listings. Sorry you're (taste is) late and/or poor.

Are you also the same person bitching about second hand prices in every thread?

>>10512844
People weren't buying the cotton dresses later in the years. Princess Cat didn't sell well. Since 2012, cotton didn't sell well for AP. Every cotton release, except Ribbon Bunny and Sweet Lacy Basket sold poorly. So poorly that it sometimes ended up in clearance. And this isn't just in Japan, but the US store too. AP's been using poly for dresses since 2012, and Japanese lolitas like it better than cotton.

The cotton revival started fairly recently, as in the past few years.

>>10512918
>Cotton didn't sell well
You could argue the same for Polyester whenever they have an unpopular release. Princess cat didn't "sell" because the other cuts were awful. The cut anon posted sold out.

>>10512837
Not this crap again. It's like playing quality roulette with these darn AP bags. So done.

>>10512844
I heard the price of cotton went up in Japan.

>>10512753
>AP only cares about what Japanese lolitas want.
And Chinese lolitas. Don't forget that they are a significant consumer base for them now.

>>10512917
I see you like to assume a lot, considering this is an anonymous board. I've never actually bought from taobao or own any taobao dresses. The only brand I buy and own is AP. I just wasn't into carousel prints when I started.

Come at me all you want. I'm the person who bought the Melty Ice-kun listing. I'm almost the complete opposite of a taobao ita who cries about secondhand. I'm probably contributing to high prices.

I was just defending the other anon who didn't have SC or Milky Planet/wanted a rerelease. There's tons of reasons why they could be into the fashion for years but still not have those prints. I went for them last because my tastes changed, and I knew how crappy and beat up they were from 10+ years of people wearing them, so I waited for better condition items. I passed up tons of listings. I'm not arguing that there wasn't opportunity.

I don't know why you're so angry about people wanting rereleases. You seem triggered at the thought, and I don't understand. Are you afraid your 2k Milky Fawn is going to be worthless if AP surprises us all and produces more? Starting a reply with "real lolitas" is just excessive and automatically makes you sound like a troll.

>>10512844
You leave princess cat out of this

>>10512837
That fucked

>>10512907
The poodle print needs a background behind the poodles, otherwise it's too washed out

>>10512837
here's another, the polka dot lining is really uneven as well

>>10507509
There's a sucker born every minute, and they still buy AP.

Are they seriously jumping on the beige basic bitch bandwagon?

>>10512844
It might also be a space thing since a lot of living spaces in japan are small and cotton is harder to store compared to polyester? Also other Japanese clothes in general don’t sell a lot of cotton or thick clothing other than traditional wear.

>>10512985
Are you sure the ears don’t have wire in them?

>>10513094
They already answered this question, yes it is to save space for Japanese lolitas. And because it sold well when they initially started releasing it. Though I gave my doubts about the fabric choice being the sole reason it sold well.

ok can we just agree now that AP gets its dresses manufactured en masse at the same Chinese factories everybody else is getting them made at? Can we all just admit that now please?

And then I'll sit back and lol at all you who think paying $300 for this shit is "worth it."

>>10513149
Shit bait, but everything you buy is manufactured en masse at the same Chinese factories, anon.

>>10513149
AP is basically dead to me now desu. I keep waiting for something better, not even just my personal fabric preferences but like, a good print on a poly dress even, and other than Ice Cream Parlor which had boring cuts and concerning colorway choices for 2/4 of them, everything has disappointed. I love dogs in lolita prints and appliques and even the poodle print wasn't redeemable with the washed out colorways and overly simple background.

All good things must come to an end eventually I suppose. Baby for super sweet prints is not as exciting as older AP but is consistently fairly good, and also the quality, materials, and level of construction detail I want for main pieces, but it still doesn't feel the same.

>>10513152
don't get triggered, apfag

>>10512810
>>10512813
It’s not sun exposure (it’s stored in a closet I keep closed with no windows), it’s just an old dress. SC is 10+ years old, and the lavender colorway is particularly bad at fading.

SC isn’t the only print like this either, jewelry jelly in every colorway is super faded now, that’s another print I wouldn’t mind a rerelease of

Poly isn’t that bad, and AP still has a leg up on construction than most taobao brands. I like that poly is easy to store and wrinkles less. The problem with AP right now is just ugly designs and a lack of focus on details.

>>10513154
I bought somewhere between 4-6 main pieces from BABY this year and at least two of them have problems with the lace not being sewn on properly. I haven’t even seen that from AP.

>>10513159
I've never had this issue or heard of anyone having it. Maybe you're unlucky? We are seeing multiple examples of AP having glaring flaws in construction (and just ugly designs) and quality in the last year or so. Those rings with chipped metal coatings from normal wear, cheap prints scratching easily from a bag brushing against it stuff arriving with defects when Japanese brands of course have no return policies, and the latest being both milky bears which and the MTO mascot bags having huge issues with basic quality control/construction. If Btssb had that many issues I am sure gulls would have posted about it. You can argue quality in general is lower for their JSKs being unlined (though you should be wearing a blouse anyway) but I've yet to hear of obvious flaws and defects like this with a kumya or something.

>>10513155
I know you want it to be true SO badly, but Taobao will never be as good as brand. Cope harder.

>>10513162
oh it's you again. you really let taobao-chans live rent free in your head it's hilarious

>>10513161
Sure, I’m not ruling that out. They’re small defects though so it’s possible not everyone here is going over every centimeter of their dresses and hasn’t noticed. Still, nothing like this is in any of my older dresses.

>>10513169
to be fair every brand sucks now compared to 10 years ago, but AP is the worst offender

retards itt thinking a poly jsk vs a cotton jsk made with the same amount of fabric takes up less space. this is like that "diamonds are too heavy" meme.

>>10513161
I bought some Milky Bears and Kumyas this year and actually had more Kumya issues. Kumya's lace around the head was sewn on really wonk and crooked and I swear she has two left arms, one of them was sewn incredibly off where it looks like it was rotated almost upside down. My Milky Bears aren't as nice as my older ones, but I was lucky that their stars were upright (although I think the anti star is incredibly cute) and no wings/limb issues.

Dress wise, I guess I got lucky and all the AP/BABY I bought had no issues with either brand recently. I will say AP's recent accessories have been pretty shoddy, namely their necklaces, some of their KCs and wrist cuffs. I've gotten necklaces with cracks or tons of scratches, KCs that are sewn crooked, lop sided, or creased in ways you can't remove, and wrist cuffs that look a mess. I'm pretty done with their accessories until they start using a new factory because it's kind of embarrassing how the quality dipped so drastically.

>>10513183
Aren't they just parroting what Japanese lolitas have said?

>>10513183
It does make a difference though, which you would know if you weren’t a larper

>>10513183
Poly dresses don’t wrinkle as bad though, so you can squash them more.

>>10513184

Wow, I've never seen a kumya with 2 left arms. Now I want you to post it, not because I don't believe you but because I just want to see how it looks

>>10513183
moron

>>10513183
>>10513194

The poly taking up less space is valid to some degree, but even between cotton AP dress I own they all take up different amounts of space and have different fabric weights. Little Bears Cafe is hella thick/hearty textured cotton, Cotton Candy Shop and original cotton HC are much thinner lighter cotton, Lyrical Party JSK is somewhere in between. Making dresses more like a light one like CCS with no inbuilt petti can take up way less space than other cotton dresses without having to use polyester. As for the wrinkling debate, it is really not that hard to keep cotton clothes from being horribly wrinkled, and there are ways for brands to if they wanted to, to incorporate anti-wrinkle coatings for their cotton pieces. There has to be more to it than "space and wrinkles", right?

>>10513202
>There has to be more to it than "space and wrinkles", right?
It's cheaper to produce, that's literally it.

even if saving space were the reason, the poly dresses still look like shit so i don't know why lolitas would prefer having more shit dresses over a few actually good looking ones

>>10513205

I don't want to admit it but you're probably right anon. I guess that's what we have to sacrifice to keep dress prices from increasing with inflation. And I suppose the cheaper to produce poly dresses subsidize the more expensive cotton rerelease MTOs to some extent and allow them to be sold for normal/current retail and not cost significantly more.

>>10513207
This

>>10513168
Calm down.

>>10513222
You're the only one sperging out lol

>>10513205
>>10513210
I wish AP would raise their prices. I know they went up a little but after over a decade of buying AP it makes me sad they won't increase. Not only do they deserve more money (especially considering inflation) but also if it would mean nicer quality items it would be 100% worth it. I would happily pay $400+ a dress if it meant the quality was on pair with their older work.

I own the original cotton Honey Cake and bought the MTO. After holding on to the MTO for months I had to finally sell because the quality in comparison was just so bad. Every time I tried it on it felt so lifeless and sad. It's nice they had a bigger size for those who need it but the construction felt so cheap and the fabric in comparison is awful. (Funnily enough the new pancake bag and accessories are better quality than the old ones, but that was the only plus of the MTO.)

I also feel like their newer cotton prints are too thin? They are more like BABY now, a limp and droopy kind of cotton, but even a bit thinner than BABY. Most of my wardrobe is from 2008-2014 and the quality difference is crazy. Handling older cotton dresses feels so nice, they have a good weight but aren't bulky. The fabric just feels really nice and sturdy. I feel like even the fit is better, as newer cotton (and poly) dresses sort of show too much of the texture underneath and sit in a slightly different way.

>>10513202
Agreed, CCS takes up less space than Little Witch. Hell, it takes up as much space as some of my chiffon dresses like petite patisserie and MCD. I think the space thing is an excuse as they could just do partial-petti free/unlined dresses out of cotton, it 90% is because poly dresses are cheaper to produce and 10% easier to wash. All of my older cotton dresses never have issues wrinkling, neither worn nor stored, so if you hang them in a closet that is not over stuffed wrinkles are no problem.

>>10513237
>if you hang them in a closet that is not over stuffed wrinkles are no problem
And that's the problem. Japanese flats are super tiny, so you either own less or overly stuff things. And from a brand's perspective they want their customers to own more of their items, so they make them easier to stuff. Also >>10513205

>>10513237
Price increases would also help balance demand a bit more. Maybe not for cheaper items like jewelry which even poorer people can afford regularly new and increases the competition, but for main pieces at least the higher price point would also mean slightly less of a bloodbath. Not that I have anything against lower income people, but of a dress costing $400-$500 instead of $300 will make it no longer affordable it probably wasn't actually affordable for them to begin with.

>>10513210
I'm willing to pay more for a cotton dress with a built-in petti

>>10513299
I think most people who genuinely prefer cotton are.

>>10512749
This isn't true. Neither the original nor the re-release pop up often and they sell for retail or higher. Otherwise post proof.

>>10513304
nayrt but can you post proof otherwise?

>>10513288
I fully support price increases so that brand actually becomes a luxury item. It always should have been that way so AP could focus on producing quality, not quanity and still get rich in the process. If I'm willing to pay $400+ for a dress secondhand then you can bet your ass I'm willing to pay that at release. And bonus if it spares us fighting in bloodbaths with people who sell two months later.

>>10512985
This sucks. They should have taken more time with the MTO. It's like paying for something and getting a replica.

>>10513308
also nayrt but how is anon supposed to post proof of a dress NOT being sold often?

>>10513311
They could post proof of prices because they claim they sold for retail or higher. If it really doesn't pop up often in the last 10 years or however many there won't be that many listings to screenshot prices and stuff of anyway. If they are trying to demand proof it does pop up often or for lower prices, they can at least provide proof of their claim of the higher prices which would be easy to provide.

>>10513149
But it's not. Look at the tags. It varies from Myanmar, Philippines, China and Japan.

>>10513317
A ton of mass production has moved to other Asian countries besides China over the years though, AP is not an exception. And construction isn't AP's only problem. Assembling something in Japan doesn't make up for poor quality material and ugly designs.

>>10513320
Never claimed so. OP claimed Chinese factories, which isn't true.

>>10513207
Because capitalism feeds that idea to us daily. More is better.

>>10513250
Did you miss where I said
>it 90% is because poly dresses are cheaper to produce and 10% easier to wash

My entire point was poly is cheaper to produce since AP will not do a congruent price raise. What is reading comprehension.

Also while that is true about Japanese apartments, many Japanese lolitas sell older dresses for new releases or sell older dresses when they feel they have outgrown them. Very few Japanese lolitas keep every dress they have ever purchased.

>>10513308
Do you want a screenshot of a lack of listings on LM or something? Kek

>>10513173
this, tho. sad

I guess I may support price increase because that may also mean they might be doing more hyped poly MTOs in order to fund the more expensive stuff.

>>10512985
>>10512837
Another Lyrical pouch MTO with messed up ears, this time the pink and sax. At first I thought maybe Japanese lolitas were just selling the crap quality ones, but now I'm sure we're all just fucked.

>>10513373
They already mentioned, they want proof of the price claims, since anon above said the dresses go for above retail. That implies listings existed even if not a lot, and that they were sold for above retail prices which could be proven.

New thread >>10513481

>>10513183
It's 100% true and I say this as someone who has entirely cotton dresses except for two.