/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>Gaylord

>>10417702
Smooth move Gaylord

aww shcuks, it does look so neat though

>>10417702
Wasn't there supposed to be a summer Katsu coming up in August?

Oh no not the Gazebo

>>10417790
Station Unity, but they cancelled before the layoff notice.

Good riddance, time to find a bigger and better place next time.

>>10418362
There aren't any "bigger places" for them to go. National harbor is the largest non casino hotel on the east coast.

>>10418362
If Mag and Katsu happen in 2021, I'm sure it will be smaller, which will be nice.

The next one to watch will be AUSA. AUSA September 2020, Escape Velocity October 2020, rescheduled AwesomeCon December 2020, MagFest January 2021, Katsucon February 2021.

>>10418600
Wardman (hotel AUSA uses) just sent out their possible complete shut down forever notices to their employees so... that ones a bust too

>>10418600
Bummer to hear it, there were some nice places to shoot at the Wardman. Still, I'm not surprised to hear that the northwest hotels have suffered since the Gaylord and the Marriott Marquis opened in 2008 and 2014. I'm sure the Wardman will reopen as some very nice luxury condos/apartments down the road, it's too close to the metro station to stay empty for long.

If the DMV re-opens by September/October then AUSA should merge with Escape Velocity out at the Gaylord. Escape Velocity had 4,800 attendees in 2018 and AUSA can't have more than 5,000 in a normal year, so smashing them together and accounting for covid decreasing attendance, they'll leave the Gaylord well-occupied but not too full.

https://twitter.com/Katsucon/status/1278433294967877632

>>10427350
Kinda odd that Kasu is offering up rooms earlier than Magfest. I hope they implement a "no mask, no entry policy" if the hotel ever opens back up. With corona cases skyrocketing in other areas I doubt the Gaylord will open back up anytime soon for events. Eve if they do open up, there will be attendance caps for both cons.

>>10430874
February is still a long way away

>>10417702
MAGWest is already kill, they're scrambling to make a virtual event while maintaining the facade of "we're monitoring the COVID situation", despite the event scheduled to go on in two months. First question asked internally was "Can we charge for a virtual event?"
MAGFest already is taking out $200k loan to keep the company afloat

>Gaylord hotel reservations for Katsucon were gone in less than an hour
Why?

>>10433050
That's Katsucon hotel reservation in a nutshell

>going to a con at the height of flu season and corona
Will the hotels even be open by the time Katsucon comes around?

>>10433096
I've never been to Katsucon, but isn't there are other hotels adjacent to the Gaylord?

>>10433096
Why the fuck did they even reserve rooms when there is no guarantee that the Gaylord will even be open at that time?

>>10433050
Eh, don’t worry about it. I’m sure there will be cancellations.

>>10433159
No, all other hotels are a distance away.

West Coast here, why the fuck won't they move to same convention center as Otakon? They already outgrew the Gaylord. I want to attend Katsu one day, but this shit is ridiculous.

>>10433171
>No, all other hotels are a distance away.
Don't listen to this retard. There is a Residence Inn and Hampton Suites across the street.

>>10433189
Residence Inn is over $500 a night and Hampton Suites are sold out from Thurs to Sun. The best bet is to room at Alexandria but you will need to drive or get an uber from the hotel to the con.

>>10433169
Not only are the staff at the Gaylord laid off but the county the hotel is in still has a mass gathering ban in effect. Katsu brings in what? 15-20k people? The PG County executive is going to shut them right the fuck down and that's if the governor doesn't get them first.

>>10433222
I reserved a room just in case, but I’m 99% sure Katsu will get cancelled. The US is still seeing huge spikes in case numbers every day, with some states seeing record breaking numbers for several days in a row. There’s no way the US can get COVID under control in the next 7 months.

>>10433178
This is the equivalent of asking Dragon Con to leave the host hotels and move to the world congress center.

It ain't happening.

>>10433178
First, even though Katsucon's staff pretends otherwise, Katsucon is a cosplay con and half the attendees would stop coming if they didn't get the pretty Gaylord. Second, Otakon's con center is too big for Katsucon. It's actually too big for Otakon -- there's sizable chunks of it that AwesomeCon uses but Otakon doesn't. Third, the hotel situation for Otakon kind of sucks -- if you don't get one of the immediately adjacent hotels, it's a half-mile trek through downtown DC, which will get you a lot more weird stares than walking across National Harbor.

>>10433240
Same, I reserved a room but I expect the whole thing to get cancelled. DC and Maryland have kept new cases low relative to their peaks a few weeks ago, but Katsucon would be bringing in people from states with worse control.

I remember getting the worst flu of my life at Magfest back in 2015 because I split a room with some dirty fucks since all the rooms were sold out. I couldn't imagine going now with all this covid shit, sad because it was a fun convention.

>>10433440
>even though Katsucon's staff pretends otherwise, Katsucon is a cosplay con
This. I don't understand why KEI continues to pretend that Katsu is a legitimate con that people go to for anime content instead of a cosplay con. Before last year, most people would book rooms and then ghost the con. No one actually cares about the con itself, only that they get to rub elbows with famous photographers and cosplayers.

>>10434337
Scary thing here is that corona was in the US as early as December and I would not be surprised if Mag and Katsu were early vectors for spreading covid.

>>10433240
>>10433440
>February 2021
>Katsu not canceled
>too late to cancel rooms
>anons get rona

>>10433240
How long until everyone in the country has had corona? New York is approaching that point

>>10433240
I did and feel the exact same way. I feels a little less dumb for failing to book and ACEN room bc the con got canceled, and even though I know there is probably a less than 10% chance cons will be safe come February 2020 I just couldn't let go of the possibly of maybe going to Katsu. There is no govt response of any note to contain Cornoa, and we have resorted to individualizing prevention. It's highly unlikely things will be safe by February.

>>10434610
You will know if it's safe of not by early January. As long as you don't twiddle your thumbs for too long you can easily cancel your room w/o issue.

>>10434386
What do you mean? I mean they only shove all the programming into rooms that you actively have to seek out to attend, have a game room that is mostly consoles, and a dealers hall with highly inflated prices to pray upon people who either don't want to or know how to order things from Japanese websites. What do you mean the only worth while thing to do at Katus is show off your cosplay and meet people and you don't need a badge to do either of those things?

>>10434610
>>10435793
Isn’t the Gaylord’s cancellation deadline only something like 72 hrs before check-in? You’d have to actually try to miss the deadline with a window that generous.

>>10435794
Isn’t this true for every con except for AX and maybe CRX though? The only thing that sets AX and CRX apart is that they’re industry cons that draw in big name guests and you need a badge to see them. You can just ghost pretty much every other con since they rarely have new or exciting things to offer.

>>10434404
I wonder if katsu was the reason New York became a hot spot

>>10435825
I don't think so, katsucon came before pax east, if there was an outbreak they would have known before then. If nyc exploded in numbers then I imagine that pax would have shut down and we know that there were no cases there.

>>10435825
No. If anything the DC Area would've been slammed first (it was). The first covid cases in the DMV started popping up around early March. Two weeks after Katsucon ended. DC, Maryland Virgina really needs to deploy contact tracers to check up on Katsu attendees and Gaylord employees. Another fun fact is that a CPAC attendee tested positive for covid as well.

Katsu and CPAC were the last large scale events to take place at the Gaylord before the lockdowns went into place.

>>10435794

The Katsu AA is pretty solid. Definitely worth borrowing a badge from a friend to check out. Other than that, no reason to do con programming unless you want to take drugs and go to a shitty rave.

>>10435825
>I wonder if katsu was the reason New York became a hot spot
>Katsu
>New York

>>10435811
I get a con can't *really* control their layout. It ultimately comes down to what you have to work with at the venue but at the Gaylord literally all the programming is shoved into rooms that are cornered off that you have to take an elevator to get to. There is no reason to even walk of there if your aren't going to programing. At least at cons like youma, ohayo and acen you do constant have to walk by programing rooms so if something catchs your eye you could just walk in. Also no, plenty of cons have cab focused game rooms. Katsu just doesn't.

>>10435794
>What do you mean the only worth while thing to do at Katus is show off your cosplay and meet people and you don't need a badge to do either of those things?
And that’s where the closed event setup came in

>>10437582
Is there even any way that Katsu could improve their programming and draw people to the con? The Gaylord layout is absolute trash and that's not Katsu's fault.

>>10438525
Magfest does an ok job of placing panels. Mainly because they also have spaces to hang out like the computer museum mixed in so you actually have another reason to walk through the halls

>>10438525

Lean into being a cosplay con and do more cosplay events. Use programming space for meetups and photoshoots instead of causing huge traffic issues by cramming 45 sloppy homestucks into the gazebo for poorly composed group pictures. put work and effort into their contests by picking real judges so they can tap the huge well of costumes for a prestigious masq

>>10439155
I would also split off the dance routines from the masquerade and have a separate idol showcase, or at the very least limit the amount that can enter. This year's show was 3 hours long with 90% Love Live skits, with at least one duplicate song, and I was bored to tears.

>>10417702
Does this actually mean MagFest is cancelled?
I haven't gotten an email about it yet. Should I expect it soon, or are they gonna wait until the last minute?

>>10439595
If magfest gets cancelled it won’t be because of this. Katsu already opened and sold through their hotel blocks

>>10439158
They have another idol dance event too, I don't know why its still in the masq. They should only allow self made costumes in the masq if they are going to do a dance routine.

>>10439155
>tap the huge well of costumes for a prestigious masq
I’ve been saying this for years now, but it’ll never happen because Katsu refuses to acknowledge that people really only go to cosplay. There are so many talented cosplayers that go already to take photos, so they don’t even have to put that much more effort in to draw a talented crowd to their masq.

>>10439595
Mag will probably wait until last minute. Iirc cons can’t claim any insurance and will lose their deposits if they cancel themselves even though it’s because of the pandemic. But if they wait until they’re told to shut it down, they can get deposits back and get insurance money for being forced to cancel due to circumstances that are out of their control.

>>10439595
See
>>10431061
>>10439765

>>10439765
that is why Ctcon held off until the mayor told them to cancel. Same with RICC though theirs was forced by the protest vandalizing the mall the center is attached to. I honestly don't think we're getting any cons that aren't forced to cancel until late next year.

>>10440076
>I honestly don't think we're getting any cons that aren't forced to cancel until late next year.
This but my prediction is that there won't be cons until, at earliest, 2022. If there are any, it's those minuscule cons in states that give no fucks about corona, like the comic cons that are still happening in Florida rn.

>>10440316
Naw with theme parks reopening regardless of how fucked Florida is currently. By next year cons will be popping up. It just depends on what regulations we get regarding high traffic ares like AA and Dealers.

>>10440336
I wonder how Holiday Matsuri will turn out?

>>10440467
Seems like barely anyone gives a flying fuck in Florida, so HolMat will probably have a decent number of attendees. There were comic cons held in Tallahassee and Tampa in the past couple of months and both drew HUGE crowds (like packed to the brim in dealers halls and panels).

>>10440336
Theoretically, how could a con regulate high traffic areas like AA, dealers, and popular photo spots like the gazebo? People already can't even follow directional arrows in stores and take masks off after entering the store. It'll be 100x worse at cons.

>>10441221
Limiting attendee access like department stores were doing which means cap for over all is what I'm thinking.

>>10441247
Do you think they took a cap into account with their room blocks?

Hotel cons are all but dead. I'm sure they'll have zero tolerance on room parties and over stuffing. If they catch you, you're out. I'm sure they will limit keys to four, and if you "lose" one they'll charge you an arm and leg to replace it to discourage people from stuffing their rooms.

>>10441306
Doesn't seem like they did. And even if they did limit the number of rooms booked, nothing is stopping people from having 4 people (or more) per room.

>>10441431
The key limit doesn't even stop people from stuffing rooms. I roomed with 8 other people at a con once and the hotel also had a 4 key limit. We got around it by constantly passing keys off to one another. Ofc that's an extreme example tho.

>>10441306
>>10441431
You guys are severely overestimating how much they are gonna give a shit. Airlines are packing planes with little regard to safety and hotels are gonna be the same. They are gonna look the other way until some moron comes in with virus and infects a floor. Until then the only regulations they'll have is con floor.

>>10441684
There’s some shit about how plane filtration and ventilation systems mean that virus transmission is less effective in a plane though.

>>10441826
Mmmmhmm, and that's why we have an entire line of immunity boosters based around air travel. It's a load of horseshit anon.

>>10441826
You're in a tube with recirculating air bc it has to stay under pressure. Next to the subway and sea travel, air travel is the next worse idea you could have right now

>>10431061
im assuming you must be an insider of some sort to know about the loan. why are they so far in the hole?

>>10418600
>The next one to watch will be AUSA. AUSA September 2020

AUSA is kill

http://animeusa.org/2020/07/27/important-breaking-news/

>>10446471
Good fuck that con.

>>10446420
They're not completely in the hole, yet, but the writing is on the wall. With cancellation of MAGStock, and now MAGWest going virtual, they know they're going to be hurting when Super goes virtual as well. They're also applying for educational grants, under the guise of "Furthering the Education of Video Games, and Video Game Culture" since they're full 501(c)(3) non-profit, thanks to them kissing up to the Smithsonian. Gotta pay that cushy office staff, the rest of the free volunteers be damned.

I'm definitely not the only "insider", since their internal policies concerning communication security are an absolute joke. It took them well over 2+ years to discover some of their old registration subdomains had been hijacked to peddle spyware as Playstation 2 guides. Other tidbits from internal land include them asking if there was a way to preemptively curtail negative ratings of the "Take This!" SJW mental health panels/group from Guidebook, along with hoping people will buy tons of MAGWest merch during the virtual event. Oh, and the guide of how to apply for Maryland Unemployment if things do go tits up in the future. They're already prepping the attendee newsletter concerning Super's cancellation, and brainstorming fundraising ideas to put in the newsletter.

>>10446933
How many full time staff are they up to now? I know Dac and Adam but not many more. I'm really surprised they have not cleaned up old users on Slack yet, I check it for the first time this year and I still have most of the Super ops channels and marketing

>>10446950
Pretty much all of the office staff are paid, so... at least 5 or 6? Could be more, like for the MAG Warehouse. Department Heads are definitely not paid, those are just volunteers. They are doing a lot of subcontracting work for things like music, but that's up in the air since events are cancelled/going virtual.

Big Adam is off of the BoD, and Dom will be resigning soon due to "burn-out", but they said they same thing when they all but forced control away from Brendan before MAGFest X/10. Former CEO Nick royally fucked things up, pushing MAGFes to use Experient for their hotel management, and we all know how well that's gone over the past few years. The little rat bastard was even shilling for them on a promotional podcast with Experient people. Not to mention all of the physical temper tantrums he pitched at the office when things didn't go his way, including him shattering the glass top of his desk in a fit of rage.

>>10446964
Experient and the general shittiness of the room lottery is why I have camped out of my car in he gaylord parkinglot the last two years. not to mention how retardedly expensive food in national harbor is.

>>10446965
Sadly, it's becoming less and less about the video games and music, and more about the generic normie shit. That, and gender politics. You've already got D.C/Maryland Elitists complaining about lower income attendees taking rooms, and wishing they just wouldn't go. Frankly, I hope it all falls flat on it's face.

>>10446969
i have definitely noticed the SJW shit come into focus more. "cosplaying while black" panels and gender neutral stickers over all the bathroom signs.

>>10446933
>along with hoping people will buy tons of MAGWest merch during the virtual event.

I'm going to assume "One of the contingencies they are looking into" is code for "betting the farm on t-shirts for a convention that didn't happen"

>>10446950
You must have not pissed off anyone at the top (i.e. Nick) to still have Slack access. Before he left, he was notorious for immediately purging anyone that slighted him, and erasing the admin logs of such doing. He also regularly set people up to fail, office staff and volunteers alike, so he could fire/remove them from the organization, due to those people holding different political and social beliefs.

>>10447208
Bingo. I think it's a bit slimy that MAG is going to apply for educational grant money, when MAG is at it's heart a giant party con with a lot of video games. They cozied up with the Smithsonian to get their 501(c)(3) non-profit tax-exempt status, because initially the IRS denied their application. MAG countered with the "Video Games are art" argument. In comparison, you've got PAX which is not a non-profit org, and is run magnitudes better than anything MAG does. And doesn't have funding issues with this current COVID-19 shitshow.

>>10447206
I'm hopeful that they'll be denied more after cons are allowed to return. It has little to do with the actual convention scene and is more often than not cows whining about not being liked in their hotglued nightmares

>>10447303
Found the guidebook app on my old phone with the 2020 guide still downloaded.

A Sampling of Dumb Panels:

>I Love My Gay Neopets
>"I feel something, but I don't know how to say it" (metoo/allyship discussion)
>Pro Wrestling for Marginalized Fans
>"Woke" Brands in the Twitter Era
>Black Girl Magic: Supporting Black Girl Gamers
>The Gay Animation Renaissance (Steven Universe, etc)
>Here We Are In The Future and its Gay! (more Steven Universe, etc)

>>10447311
God I hope it's nixed when they are allowed to return. Staff have a reason now too, that they have to follow strict guidlines so likely will be cutting down on fluff shit

>>10447311
Lest we forget, the utter shitshow that was the Chris-Chan panel... with that abomination actually being in the crowd for the whole thing. This kind of crap has no business being at a MAGFest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGWHc5GPmF4

>>10446965
Renting an RV for the weekend was straight up cheaper than getting a room for MAG. Total cost for renting a small RV for the weekend was $200. Do that whenever cons start back up.

>>10447426
where did you park it? gaylord lot?

>>10447432
The plateau lot across from the gaylord lot.

>>10436339
>>10433440
Sclass had the right idea of just booking a hotel space and just getting pictures. People were salty that they didnt get invited even though it was open to the public

https://cosplay.kotaku.com/cosplay-is-outgrowing-cosplay-conventions-1833111766

>>10433440
>Half the attendees would stop coming if they didn't get the pretty Gaylord
Truth.

>>10433440
>half the attendees would stop coming if they didn't get the pretty Gaylord
>only half
More like almost everyone. National Harbor has nothing to offer other than the Gaylord.

>>10448470
The hotel is beautiful, and it's centrally located on the east coast. That's it.

Wrap it up, these cons are officially done.

https://wtop.com/coronavirus/2020/07/prince-georges-county-coronavirus-update-july-31/

>Prince George’s County, Maryland, is setting a new 50-person limit to gatherings that will go into effect Saturday amid an uptick in new coronavirus cases.

>The new restriction starts 5 p.m. Saturday, Prince George’s County Executive Angela Alsobrooks announced Friday evening.

>“What this is really aimed at is the family gatherings, the parties and those other large kinds of activities,” John Erzen, Alsobrooks’ deputy chief of staff, told WTOP.

>“We are not afraid to take decisive action to protect the health and well-being of our residents; and at this point, the data tells us that this new restriction is unfortunately necessary,” Alsobrooks said in a statement.

>>10448871
We shouldn’t expect American cons to make a return for quite a few years anyways, given the US’ response to coronavirus and the growing anti-mask/anti-sanitation movement. I already canceled my room because I’d rather miss a con than die because I caught ‘rona at one.

>>10449466
By the time those few years have come gone, the convention industry would be dead forever...

>>10449530
no? these cons make fuckall for $ that's why the people who run them have day jobs.

>>10449534
Unless your're the top within the big boy cons that get paid to do literally nothing.

>>10448166
Too bad there wasn't enough costhots and sheevy guys with cameras thrustfund money to do it again.

>>10449530
>the convention industry would be dead forever...
There will always be a market for conventions

90% of them will disappear though

If it was just Gay I wouldn't bat an eyelid but somehow 'Gaylord' makes me laugh every time

>>10449530
>>10450032
The days of the super huge cons with 50k+attendees like SDCC, PAX, DragonCon and AX are over with. Everything will shift to an online format for the foreseeable future.

MAGFest continues to drag its feet with the inevitable announcement that MAG 2021 will be cancelled. First announcement will have a COVID-19 survey, followed by a second announcement of the actual cancellation.

Funds with the org are getting bad enough, that they will also announce a "Save MAGFest" fundraising campaign. There's already plans being put in place to furlough actual paid MAGFest staff, and it's bad enough they're selling the kegerator they keep in the warehouse for cash.

>>10452017
NOT THE KEGERATOR

>>10451365
SCLASS FOREVER!

>>10451365
Nobodys gonna waste their time on online trash.

Autists would rather buy shit online
Scrotes would rather harass girls in person
Girls have no interest without people and togs giving attention to them
Same with cosplayers

>>10452283
the 3 or 4 idiots who give a fuck about funimation will

>>10447396
before chrischan showed up and became a circlejerk for him, it was more in line with other "gaming adjacent" panels about /v/ and what not.

If katsucon gets cancelled I bet cosplayers are still going to roll up to the gaylord anyways for their gazebo pics

>>10453874
There are dumbfuck cosplayers still doing shoots with no mask on, kissing/hugging other cosplayers, etc., so I wouldn’t put it past cosplayers to go to a hotel during a pandemic just for ~aesthetic~ photos.

>>10453874
How could they if the hotel will be permanently closed by then?

>>10453874
People are planing to show up at the Dragoncon host hotels for meetups so I wouldn't be surprised.

>>10447396
You have no idea how much they hate the whole /v/ scene since GG. Even their guests dept wouldn’t bring back JonTron since they flat out said in Slack they hated him.

Mag just put out a survey out and its looking like 2021 is canceled but they just wont say it. most of the questions are around if anyone would attend virtual and if they could still sell merch.

>>10448871
Health departments and experts need to be shot on sight.

>Katsucon and MAGfest will die in your lifetime

>>10462846
Magfest probably, katsu should be fine. Magfest is losing money because they launched so many side events

>>10462851
>Magfest probably, katsu should be fine. Magfest is losing money because they launched so many side events

West is the only thing bleeding and they won't do anything about it.

>>10462852
Magfest is dying anyway, I can see Katsucon going to another place if Gaylord doesn't reopen.

>>10462857
Katsu is kinda getting too big for the gaylord anyways, but the gaylord is a big part of the appeal unfortunately

>>10462859
Where do you think Katsucon will go for next year Walter E. Washington Convention center or somewhere bigger?

>>10462865
They’ll probably stick to the gaylord for as long as possible honestly.

All MAGFest discussion/info continued in it's own thread here: >>10459768

>>10462870
But will the Gaylord stay open I mean I have heard the Gaylord hotel will have a name change or something like that.

>>10462837
Why? Because you don’t believe in covid?

>>10463252
Well do you believe on not going back to normal again or you're accepting the so called "new normal" bullshit. Also the virus has already peaked but the fearmongering continues like no tomorrow for the mainstream media.

>>10463305
Not exactly. Media is pushing for people to go back but the people don't want to.

>>10463305
I understand that your consumptive choices are the only time you feel any kind of autonomy or freedom but that said, we aren't on a downswing of cases they are just staying consistently high bc we are do next to no preventative measures. Now if you'd like to talk about taking your life and other lives into your own hands to practice the only freedom you know ok, we can talk about the he ethics of that but get the story twisted and assign scapegoats to justify your position

>>10462859
All they have to do is a badge cap. I know that would mean less money but what happened to that by fans for fans crap they talk about?

>>10463305
>>10462837
imagine outing yourself like this. do you not believe in vaccines either?

>>10463305
What are you gonna do if we don’t go back to “the old normal”, retard? Shoot up the Gaylord? Kek.

>>10463362
>What are you gonna do if we don’t go back to “the old normal”, retard? Shoot up the Gaylord?
Why Yes!!!!

>>10463353
I believe the vaccine will be out this year

>>10463305
peaked where? New Zealand? Yeah absolutely

USA tho? We're still on wave 1

>>10463994
>USA tho? We're still on wave 1
No. we have already peaked and passed too.

>>10463322
People don't want to go back because either.
a) They don't have a place to work at

or

b) They'll get mugged and beaten by BLM thugs just for trying to go to work

So who's ready for an entire year of no conventions in 2021?

>>10417702
heh heh heh heh.. gay

>>10465037
If it encourages weebs to save money then bring it on. With all this shit going on in the world, now ain't the time for unnecessary spending.

All businesses in Maryland are allowed to reopen starting this weekend. Things are looking up.

>>10468000
The damage already has been done.

>>10468048
But how.

>>10468000
That is Maryland as a whole. The county itself gets to decide. PG/MoCo/AA are staying in phase 2.

>>10469228
>PG/MoCo/AA are staying in phase 2.
They are shooting themselves in the foot hard.

MagFest cancelling probably bodes ill for Katsu.

Glad I went to Katsu 2020.

>>10469556
Those two counties were the hardest hit by the Rona so quite naturally they're gonna be more cautious.

I saw people saying Gaylord is cancelling events six months out. Is that for real?

>>10469998
Katsucon is still on

>>10469918
There are not being cautious when losing a ton of money in restaurants and other stuff.

>>10469906
This making Katsucon look really good and plus they can postpone till June or July at best beating Otakon at the same time.

>>10469998
Yes that's true.

>>10469918
No they are fucking things more up by the day.

>>10470263
Katsucon probably has the Station Unity 2021 window reserved, which should make it easier for them to just hold summer Katsucon.

>>10470420
You might as well call it Summer Katsucon then for next year. I can Katsucon being the hottest event in Maryland for both seasons.

>>10470454
Katsucon will save the Gaylord.

>>10471348
I can see this happening

>>10471348
Funny fact: The events that spend the most money at the Gaylord are CPAC, Katsu and Magfest.

Cancelling my room right now. Katsu won’t happen in Feb since burgers are too retarded to understand the gravity of corona.

>>10472454
>Katsu won’t happen in Feb since burgers are too retarded to understand the gravity of corona.
Funny thing it will happen in Feb or postponed till March, don't forget summer Katsucon will happen in July or August.

>>10472454
Corona will be gone in Nov. just wait and watch.

>>10472454
oh fuck off. Like Europe is any closer to opening up.

Taiwan is way past covid and they aren't opening up conventions any time soon. They're going to stretch this thing out until they have to start killing people to enforce a lockdown.

People need to understand the countries that 'handled covid the best' are also the most locked down. You can look up the mobility data released by google/apple to confirm.

>>10472659
uh, taiwan has had a cosplay event within the past month though. most people are just going about their normal business now anon...

>>10472659
Europe is also pretty much completely opened up now — so this is what burger blinders look like, huh?

>>10472702
Didn't taiwan had a convention event this summer during covid and even sports taiwan went back full capacity in short months. It shows the stupidity of US of now opening up immediately instead our government is making everyone suffer.

>>10472454
Why cancel? If katsu does get cancelled they’ll cancel it for you and if it doesn’t you’ll have a room

>>10472864
It's too late at this point anyway fucker should have saved booking till opening up in October or November.

>>10472896
Except the hotel blocks sold out within an hour when they opened

>>10472928
Which month when the Gaylord opening the hotel orders.

This is why lockdown should have never happened in the first place.

>>10473071
The US never locked down in the first place, what are you talking about?

>>10473090
They did lockdown it caused a ton of lost businesses and damages to the US economy.

Lockdowns in other countries actually worked. America is just too fucking retarded to stay in for a bit.

>>10473090
Depends on the state I guess. California has been locked down since March, we are just now opening back up a little

>>10473340
>Lockdowns in other countries actually worked
Sweden didn't lock down while other countries did and they come out much better than the rest.

People are speculating that if conventions aren't able to resume within the next year so even the bigger ones will probably go belly up. I'm not exactly sure if it's true or not, but most of these conventions aren't profit right? I know fuck all about conventional logistics, but some of the old heads that have been staffing and any conventions for at least 15 to 20 plus years are saying that even some of the bigger conventions that are well established with sponsors are starting to sweat bullets if they can't have an event within the next year. Even with conventions that have sponsors, those sponsors have taken a hit because the conditions they sponsor haven't been able to operate so even they can't make money.

I have a feeling that newer smaller conventions probably will not survive well if at all and the bigger ones are going to take a massive hit for the next couple of years.

It's been nice, lads.

>>10473930

Sorry for the massive amount of typing and grammatical errors, I was using voice to text

>>10473930
i don't think cons will disappear forever. we might be stuck with shitty new ones though.

>>10473930
Next year cons will come around the problem lies how reopening steps are going to take when we able to go full capacity. If the states don't reopen before 2021 there will chaos within the cons and problem arise much worse.

>>10473937
Either a vaccine will magically arrive before the November 3rd or states will be forced to reopen through the federal appeals court or supreme court because state governors are hellbent on keeping them closed until there is nothing left except Big Tech and Big Corps.

>>10473930
There's a reason why I've been posting my videos on my youtube channel with all deliberate speed.

>>10473930


Cons aren't like when a factory closes down and is out of commission it takes a significant effort to get back started again.

I'm not worried. As long as hotels, planes, etc.. core infrastructure is in place cons will happen.

Most of what it takes to run a successful con is in human capital not money or hard assets. There will be restructuring in some of these for profit cons, but aside from that we should be fine to resume as soon as we can have large events.

>>10473930
I could see it going lots of ways.

- Small cons might survive if they have no assets/overhead that they have to pay for until the next con.

- Large cons might survive if they can borrow until the next con. If you've been in the black for ten years and the only thing that stopped you from being in the black this year is the pandemic, you should be able to get a loan.

- We might see a resurgence of the shoestring budget high school/college anime club-hosted anime con that can be funded entirely by club dues.

- Corporations that are doing well in the pandemic might buy up non-profit cons for their name/fanbase/goodwill and cover their operating costs until they can be profitable again. Or maybe just buy naming rights like sports stadiums. Either way, I think we're going to see Netflix Anime Expo and Animazement By Amazon and shit.

- Cons might merge.

>Big Ten football is coming back this fall season

It's huge sign that cons in the east coast is saved. I expect full capacity for Katsucon in 2021.

>>10474771
There will be.

>>10474780
Oh I know for sure we're expect a full capacity by then.

>>10474771
They’re also really confident about getting a vaccine out before the end of the year

>>10475082
Uhh no. Fauci says January at the absolute earliest, more likely spring. A rushed as hell vaccine would be a really bad idea

>>10475098
>Fauci says January at the absolute earliest, more likely spring.
It will still go full capacity for Katsucon 2021. I'm still concern that vaccine may take much more time and would be a huge problem if the vaccine has side effect that could make the treatment much worse.

>>10474071
>Animazement By Amazon
As rabid as Animazement's community is, they could GoFundMe the whole convention and by now they've invited the same guests so many times that they'd probably do it for free if you just paid air/room/food.

>>10474071
It's a difficult thing to really put in perspective. As I previously stated, I know fuck all about convention logistics... I don't know what conventions are and aren't in the black. I know sometimes in the US are hemorrhaging money, and you can definitely tell which ones are by the ones that still insist on having an event even though there's a fucking pandemic going on. I'm not too concerned about the bigger conventions, because those have been around for so long that they probably are pretty decently in the black. I know DragonCon is okay, and since they partnered with MomoCon or vice versa, MomoCon is okay as well.

Anime weekend Atlanta on the other hand though, I'm not so sure about. They have been around for a while, however I'm not sure what their finances look like. they made the call to not have an in-person event even though the venue is open for business, so I'm guessing they can not have an event this year and still be okay.

Another thing that conventions have to worry about that is beyond their control are the venues that they are hosted at closing down because the venues couldn't generate revenue during the pandemic so they went out of business. But then again, I'm not sure if that's a possibility or not.

>>10476015
What are the chances we will seeing cons and convention areas doing this wasted lock down?

>>10476220
What?

>>10476268
He's saying will there be cons in 2021?

>>10475516
Gawd damn. Fuck it, I'd go.

Cosplay has died

>>10478253
No it hasn't died yet.

>>10478217
Of course there will be cons in 2021.

>>10480380
Yeah right, more like a containment breach

>>10480385
Herd immunity or BUST. Do you want your cons or not?

>>10480422
It's always the retards who don't understand science who scream "HERD IMMUNITY".

>>10475295
Even if a 100% safe and effective vaccine becomes commercially available by November, do you think all 20,000+ Katuscon attendees will be able to afford and access the vaccine by February? NO! Half of con attendees can't even access deodorant on a regular basis! Even if some people are able to get vaccinated by February, businesses will still have mask rules and attendance caps well into 2021 because there will be people who haven't been vaccinated yet, or morons who refuse to get vaccinated. Katsucon 2021 ain't happening.

>>10480486
>Katsucon 2021 ain't happening.
We shall see soon enough it's gonna be funny where everything is up and running around 2021. I hope you get dog shit in your face soon being a fool especially the health scene in fucking everything up.

>>10480486
Fuck off CDC.

>>10480486
And more importantly, they'll be plenty of people who can't get the shot because of allergies.

Katsucon 2021 will happen eventually or we move it in the summertime and that will bring tons of fans.

>>10480486
>can’t even access deodorant
They can, they just chose not to

Fuck it. I have vacation days I need to use so I'm booking the Hampton for a weekend just to gaze longingly at the Gaylord for a bit.

Is that panda teahouse boba/icecream place any good? I didn't get to try it last time.

>>10480985
>Is that panda teahouse boba/icecream place any good
Yes it's good.

>>10480939
That makes things worst

>>10481003
Anything you'd recommend? All I can find of their menu is a picture someone snapped.

>>10480486
>effective vaccine becomes commercially available by November
>effective vaccine
>November
Enjoy mutating this virus to something that is going to be indestructible.

>>10481040
>Enjoy mutating this virus to something that is going to be indestructible.
Riots are causing everything in destruction lately than the virus.

>MagFest cancelled a month ago
>still no Katsu announcement

>>10485319
They've got the 2021 info on their website

>>10481204
Is English not your first language? It's very obvious which comments are yours, you should work on that.

>>10485333
I think you understood me, yep.

Rumor has it that Larry Hogan(Md Gov.) will open up the state by end of this month.

Who else here /preemptively canceled room/?

A good barometer to find out if the hotel will open up anytime soon is to see of CPAC is still planning to go on. That is the next major event that always follows Katsu.

>>10486676
If CPAC still going for next year then there's a strong chance Katuscon will happen next year or postponed it around the summer.

>>10485434
Prince Georges county still has that mass gathering ban. When we moved into phase 3 he let counties decide when to move forward. Unless he suddenly decides to force counties to move forward I’m not sure we’ll get a reopening next month. I really want it reopened though a lot of the places I normally hung out at are in pg county.

>>10489199
If they don't reopen next month then I expect the courts to do it

>>10489844
Same here the lockdowns were unnecessary to this point.

>>10489915
This.

>>10485434
And we'll be fucked if he does, there's a reason why MD isn't in the top states hit by covid. Once all the sick from DC come over it's game over

>>10491127
>Once all the sick from DC come over it's game over
Nope. Even I can tell you DC has gotten even the residents are pissed over these lockdown restrictions and losing business over this.

>>10491288
That doesn’t change wether or not they’re sick though

>>10491615
Of course after death they will label everything covid to the point on pushing more lockdowns and more civil unrest.

>>10491127
DC’s 7 day case average per 100k residents is 8 cases, Maryland’s is 11, Virginia’s is 12. DC has had low rates for a while.

>>10491991
That’s good

>>10491991
>DC’s 7 day case average per 100k residents is 8 cases, Maryland’s is 11, Virginia’s is 12. DC has had low rates for a while.
This is getting stupider by stupider each day while everyone locks down without a plan to open. Bowser and the rest of the goons need to beaten like scolded children.

>>10492010
You do realize that covid cases are climbing back up right? Those lockdowns have kept DC from having a 5 digit death count. Now for a legitimate criticism, the city should've extended property tax due dates and wave late fees or even freeze property taxes for businesses and homeowners.

>>10492159
>You do realize that covid cases are climbing back up right?
Do you know how stupid you sound really? Covid cases climbed back but I don't see any deaths or anyone hospitalized. Like the other anon said these cases are low while the economy is suffering.

>>10492159

this bitch thinks lOcKdOwNs are going to stop an airborne virus, lmao.

>>10492335
>stop an airborne virus
>airborne

Bitch please and the lockdowns has killed more people than the virus itself.

>>10492159
It’s mutating to be less harmful
Look at the EU

4chan is the only place where I can actually say it. People are dying and I honestly enjoy it. We need less people on this planet anyway, let the pandemic do it's thing or let them kill themselves during lockdown. Both outcomes are fine with me.

>>10492472
Rona really is a Darwin test. If dumbfucks want to wipe their families out to satisfy their weeb needs then so be it. The world needs less boomers shitting up the world.

>>10492479
>If dumbfucks want to wipe their families out to satisfy their weeb needs then so be it.
You are this MAD.

>>10492479
You're a troll, a real good one.

I'm canceling my room because I'm repurposing my Katsu fund to upgrading my PC. Anyone want a Gaylord atrium room?

>>10417702
Is the Gaylord any good?

>>10496347
The venue is nice as fuck but everything is expensive.

>>10493072
Save your money because Katsucon will postponed and head into summer.

>>10496445
It's expensive but it's tolerable when you head down to the National Harbor.

>>10469906
Katsucon 2020 was like the last hurrah of my old life or some shit. It's so bizarre. At that time, everything seemed wonderful, normal and carefree, like it would last forever. Since then, COVID hit, my wife went crazy and filed for divorce, ghosting all our friends, selling her car and moving to another country (I shit you not), half the places I used to frequent went out of business, I moved out of our old home of nearly a decade, and have sold thousands of dollars of my things and am now buying a house and renting the apartment above the garage to my best friend who lost his would-be life long job in another state. This year has been madness and felt like a decade has passed. Katsu 2020 was like the last hurrah before I shifted into another reality.

I know Katsu can’t cancel until force majeure kicks in, but I’m stunned that force majeure hasn’t kicked in yet given how long ago MagFest cancelled.

>>10496566
I felt this on another level, but buckle up ! 2021 is gonna blow chunks

>>10496566
Where you live at really and are the housing still expensive in the DMV area?

>>10496856
2021 will be an absolute clusterfuck if all the counties in Maryland don't opened up very soon shit is gonna get much worse.

So now that Biden has won we can finally get a nationwide lockdown for 2 months and counter covid19!

But It guess we will also have wait for 2022 until events will be able to come back again, as they won't allow states to reopen them.

drunk, post-con Nandos next door will be very missed this year... until next time, peri peri chicken

>>10497755
He has won?

>>10498351
Yes, Trump is just being a sore loser about it.

>>10498490
I would be sore too if my job was stolen from me

>>10498490
I hate both Trump and Biden but it’s entertaining to watch a fat, balding old man have a colossal meltdown about losing

>>10498532
This!

>>10498513
pic related

>>10496847

Difference policies for different clients

Katsu finally cancelled.

The new restrictions put in place by Govenor Hogan probably triggered the force majure.

https://wtop.com/coronavirus/2020/11/maryland-coronavirus-update-november-10/

>The governor also announced the Maryland Department of Health’s strong advisement to cap indoor gatherings at no more than 25 people.

That right there was Katsu's out.

>>10500806
It had to cancel anyway, right? There was no way that Katsu was going to happen even if the walking thumb put the 25 people cap in place.

>>10500806
>>10500815
The only people who would go to an anime con during a pandemic are the ones who should exit the gene pool early. Like, with how gross nerds are, you really think any place hosting more than 10 of them would be clean?

Someone died of swine flu at katsu

>>10500841
>someone died of swine flu at katsu

Never even heard of that before, that's horrifying lmao

Can you imagine the kind of character that would attend a con during this kind of pandemic? jesus.

>>10500854
https://www.amberunmasked.com/katsucon-h1n1/

The meek will never inherit the earth if they can't get their shit together

im really not optimistic about katsucon 2022 either.
they have to throw out the whole vaccine trump made since its targets bimapoc and biden will have to make a whole new one so its gonna take a while

i just want conventions. why did trump have to make coronavirus?

>>10501193
>why did trump have to make coronavirus?
The chinks made it, retarded faggot.

>>10501195
>Still think the Chinese invented Covid
It was made in some US military lab that somehow got loose.

Not surprised Katsu cancelled. Wouldn't be surprised if the first half or first ¾ of 2021 doesn't have cons. This winter hasn't even fully started and it's already getting hella worse

>>10501195
Found the Trumptard

Governor Hogan is definitely trying to spearhead the whole state without no repair. I expect a recall to happen soon and Marylanders are already pissed.

>>10501442
Not a trumptard but goddamn you need this shit is already a mess within the economy even /cgl/ is losing their shit because state lockdown are killing the cosplay and convention industry because of stupid decisions.

>>10501516
You're the only cosplaying moron that thinks this. Many are upset, but at the same time are grateful con organizers are cancelling their events in the name of public safety and health.

>>10501450
In Maryland, there is no right of statewide recall of state government officials

.>>10501549
And replacing them virtual cons that a lot of people will not attend. I won't be patronizing these boring virtual cons, they're just glorified livestreams.

Given the choice of a virtual con or a in person con, they will attend in person because not everyone wants to stay inside for a another six months

A lot of people will be in for a rude awakening when some of these cons are gone forever.

>>10501549
>for public health and safety
Retarded post of the year

>>10501566
>I need my weeb gatherings to feed my ego while getting people infected.

>>10501559
>Given the choice of a virtual con or a in person con, they will attend in person because not everyone wants to stay inside for a another six months

Of course they would. We've already seen that Americans are selfish, entitled pieces of shit who're too lazy to figure out how to busy themselves without leaving their houses. It's not hard, do some soul-searching and you'll be able to wait it out another year. Thinking you deserve to go to massive events when there's a fucking pandemic is PEAK entitlement.

I'm glad the organizers aren't holding in person cons, at least they have some sense.

>>10501592
>It's not hard, do some soul-searching and you'll be able to wait it out another year.

You got a lot of people in america who committed suicide and over dosed on drugs this year due to the lockdowns and you're shaming us for not cargo culting mainland china hard enough.

You are incredibly insensitive in how destructive the lockdowns have caused in social and economic damage in America and Western Europe.

Not everyone can get addicted to a mmorpg as a total replacement or handle another year zoom meetings.

No human can handle long term social isolation. You know that and I know that.

>>10501622

So whats the alternative then? Act like Covid isn't a big deal? It fucking sucks, but if people had just bit the bullet and stayed inside for 5 months, we wouldn't need to have another full blown lockdown. My brain is not wired in a way that allows me to understand information via online learning but fucking hell I rather do that then risk getting myself or a loved one sick.

You can still call people and picking up a hobby or benign watching Netflix is fucking easy. Americas are brats and I'm wondering if people were this fucking entitled durning WW rations

>>10501622
You deserve a kick to the cooter.

>>10501628
Your whole argument is "Why you're not me, you entitled selfish prick"?

Not everyone can live and stay at home forever. You can, but a lot of people are not.

>>10501588
>Ego
Get help, get it now

>>10501588
Yes.

>>10501628
It isn’t
It kills old people and people with comorbidities

>>10501622
Fuck you dude. If you can't handle it, get on some antidepressants. Garden. Go for a walk. Learn a skill - sewing, cross stitch, pottery, baking, cooking, embroidery, coding, carpentry, etc etc. Adopt a pet.

Lockdowns haven't caused social and economic damage. Botched and rushed reopenings and people REFUSING to wear masks properly are what have caused massive social and economic damage.

You don't need massive events and you don;t need to go to bars and you don't need to go to clubs.

>>10501638
You think we're happy about staying home? See, that's why you're fucking selfish and entitled. I would love to be able to go to bars - I LOVE bars. I used to go to bars every weekend. I would go around and try new breweries. It was my thing. I'm extroverted as hell and loved interacting with others. I'm not happy staying in my house, I'm doing it because that's my fucking social responsibility and I'm not some whiny entitled prick who thinks partying is a necessity.

>>10501650
Actually it kills indiscriminately and causes lasting damage even in healthy young people with no comorbidities. And even if it only killed people with pre-existing conditions, still, fuck you. You're basically saying that for 2-3 years people with pre-existing conditions or people who have family with pre-existing conditions can't leave their house or have any fun because you can't put a mask over your nasty face and can't avoid large gatherings for a few months

>>10501628
>Act like Covid isn't a big deal?
Herd immunity, a vaccine or a live with including rest of the viruses. Also no mandatory masks, either you live with it or suffer the consequences.

We're going back to normal.

>>10501650
>It kills old people
Only 5-7% of old people have died from it.

>>10501658
Thank god Biden won, I hope they put antimaskers on house arrest and fine them thousands.

Yeah herd immunity works soooo great just look at Sweden! /s

>>10501653
>Lockdowns haven't caused social and economic damage.
Yes it has.

>>10501663
Nah, dumbass republicans have caused social and economic damage.

>>10501662
>Thank god Biden won
SCOTUS says Hi Joe.

>>10501666
>Thinks Joe cheated
Where's the evidence moron?

Has anyone who cancelled their room at the gaylord got their deposit refunded yet? I cancelled as soon as katsu did and it hasnt come through for me

I bet we wouldn't have these anti lockdown retards running about if the federal government had cut everyone a monthly check to stay indoors along with mortgage, rent freezes and property tax freezes on small businesses like bars and restaurants.

>>10501658
>pic related

>>10501691
Bold of you to assume it’s about money and not MUH FREEDUMBS. People are anti-lockdown because they’re either too retarded to grasp how serious the virus is or they’re retarded conspiracy theorists who think the government made up these precautions so they can test how much they can control us.

>>10501691
They'd still exist. You're giving dumbass republican bootlickers way too much credit. They'd be complaining about corporations being treated unfairly and would suddenly be extremely concerned with the national deficit.

I agree that those things should have happened, but those things happening wouldn't have made there be any less anti mask fucktards.

>>10501685
Not yet

>>10501658
>herd immunity
it only exists when there IS a vaccine and hinges on the majority of the population being vaccinated. why won't you fucking idiots stop talking about ideas you don't comprehend?

>>10501660
Which is by far the highest rate
>>10501654
>Actually it kills indiscriminately
Only people who have it. That is the definition of discrimination.

>>10501665
How so?

Remember how some people were planning to show up at the hotels across the street from the Gaylord? Well the county just shut them down as well.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/national-habor-hotels-shut-down-over-covid-19-restrictions/2474057/?amp

>>10501792
that's not what that means retard

Roy Cooper is a faggot and I’m disappointed in NC for keeping him

>>10501792
>Which is by far the highest rate
You must be joking nigga.

>>10501817
I hope National Harbor gets bankrupted to oblivion. Maryland is going to suffer and everyone around is gonna suffer as well.

>>10501693
>using memes in 2020
if i snapped you in half, you'd start glowing like those sick glow bracelets i had as a kid during Halloween festivals

>>10501817
Whoever decides this shit deserves to be hanged why are these democratic cities lockdown with no questions to ask.

>>10501856
>not using memes in 2020
ok boomer

>>10501794
The Heroes Act is still sitting on Moscow Mitch's desk while municipalities across the country are on the verge of collapse because their tax revenue streams are drying up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HEROES_Act

>>10501693
>People are anti-lockdown because they’re either too retarded to grasp how serious the virus is
bold statement from someone who probably stays at home all day under the care of mommy and daddy.
the virus isnt serious, theres no metric that says otherwise either.
anyone who isnt deathfat has a 99.99% survival rate

>>10501945
too retarded confirmed

>>10501942
>bail out our retarded lockdown ideas
no stop locking down

>>10501946
>too retarded confirmed
>I have no argument so I must insult you
Typical.

>>10501947
The home of Disney World (Orlando) got rekt even with the mouse house open because nobody is traveling. Mind you, Florida never entered a lockdown. Tourism based economies are fucked even in states that had no lockdown.

>>10501957
then the media shouldnt have hyped up a disease that has a literal 99.93% survival rate.
or maybe the house controlled by democrats should stop blocking further stimulus bills

Politicians on both sides along with the members of the media should ALL be dragged out in the street and beaten to death and their corpses desecrated.
But for some reason everyone decided on the middle of a pandemic with no money and record unemployment the biggest issue to tackle was fucking defunding the police.

>>10501967
it's still fucked that 200k+ died, not to mention those who have preexisting conditions due to how bad covid ruined their lungs. You're laughing til that .1% is your parents or your best friends.

>>10501967
Wow this is literally (you) >>10501693

>>10501972
Demoshits are creating chaos with a purpose this is pretty worrisome that the democrats and some republicans living in blue states trying to ruin the economy with no brakes. The lockdown kill more people than the fucking virus itself.

>>10501977
then again, 200K dead muricans might actually be a benefit for the rest of the world. Especially when it mostly hit the old, poor and fat people.

>>10501685
>>10501708
Same anon who replied, I checked my account and I got my deposit back late yesterday!

>>10502003
This, fucking this.

>>10501967
MSM is America's True Enemy.

>>10501628
The virus isn't a big deal. It's a complete joke and something we've been dealing with for millennia without issue.

>>10501628
Stop blaming everybody else. Even places with draconian lockdowns like Peru still spread the virus and they had the military tear gassing people. It doesn't work and people are right to be skeptical.

>>10502175
Right? This person wants to talk about being selfish and entitled that people won't lock themselves up for her. People during the Spanish flu didn't cower in their homes and nobody called them "selfish and entitled"

>>10502181
You're right, they were called "dead"

>>10502177
Peru government is trying to suicide the whole countries economy.

>>10502288
>You're right, they were called "dead"
LOL

>>10502288
Spanish Flu only killed 3% of those who contracted it, retard.

>>10502354
>Death toll is typically estimated to have been somewhere between 17 million and 50 million

Like I said, fuck clown, they were called "dead"

>>10502384
3% is still 3%, megatard

>>10501967Democrats are trying to help your ass by asking for more money. Republicans wanted to only give you $300 IF your home state would pony up the other $100. If they didn't you state wouldn't receive money for a stimulus check.

Republicans also wanted to remove protections for people who got sick on the job if viral contraction could've been avoided, like forcing teachers to go into schools instead of teaching from home, so that they're be unable to file a lawsuit for example.

Republicans also wanted to make sure there's no hazard pay for folks working the pandemic in high-risk jobs, like doctors, nurses, and delivery workers.

>>10502606
Any proof of that or are you still parroting tired CNN talking points?

>>10502606
>simping for Democrats on 4chan
I'd like to see proof of Democrats championing for the working class. They're the ones who want people to stay locked up at home.

>>10502606
We already know the democrats are more stupid than the republicans. You don't have to keep going on about it.

>want to shitpost about Katsu
>/pol/ invasion

Bah. Wonder if the Gaylord will cancel CPAC too though.

>>10502609

I'm not on the Democrats side either, as they have their own list of dirty deeds and tactics, but Republicans aren't saints either.

Safe To Work Act
https://www.businessinsider.com/republicans-democrats-stimulus-disagreements-pelosi-trump-mcconnell-aid-bill-differences-2020-10

$300 additional to unemployment to those receiving at least $100 on unemployment
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/13/waiting-on-that-extra-400-unemployment-benefit-heres-what-we-know.html

>>10502427
not enough! there need to be more to make it relevant.

>>10418362
Conventions will never recover. We will be lucky if it ever happens again

>>10504195
Convention center based cons will be fine since a city government is in charge of those places and they will bend over backwards to bring visitors in.

The hotel based cons are the ones that are in trouble because hotels are about to straight up go out of business.

friendsofmag.com

Read up, gulls: the staff and volunteers seek justice

>>10504819
This needs its own goddamn thread holybshit!

>>10504949
Already one here >>10504722