/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10498632
>Thoughts on different brands?
MM has the best coats, hands down. I ordered one during their reservations and I’m keeping my fingers crossed everything goes well. I like BABY’s coats a lot too.
>Are brand coats worth full price? Who makes the warmest ones?
Yes especially Mary Magdalene. They hold up well and they’re warm. I prefer long coats but capes are warm too.
>Recommendations on lolita friendly accessories, such as snow boots, winter legwear, hats+gloves ect
I buy fleece lined tights and fur trimmed boots, usually from a local boutique. I recommend checking your own independent boutiques if you can.
>Favourite winter prints/coords (yet to get any ap winter releases shown, other than Toy Museum, which isn't very winter themed)
I always love BABY’s Christmas prints though they don’t seem to make them anymore. I’ll probably buy one of AP’s winter/Christmas print.

I've heard Mary Magdalene makes the warmest coats overall, but they're a classic brand. I would love to know which brand makes the warmest sweet coat.

I love nile perch's latest scarves, they're ¥13,200 each which is too much for me to justify, but they'd look perfect with more ott sweet coords. I'm also just weak for anything with sparkly gems on kek

>>10498632
i bought an AP coat secondhand for about half the original price, and it's like new. no reason to pay full price.

I bought some of uniqlos heattech stuff in warm, extra warm and ultra warm and gotta say that I really like them for layering underneath OPs and blouses without adding too much extra bulk. I also got me a down jacket from their air collection and it's really light, I can even wear it underneath my coat for extra warmth and insulation. I'm currently looking for a sweet short coat but haven't had any luck so far. It's either gone too quickly, has some damage or there's something about the design that's throwing me off. I'm not even quite sure what kinda design I want baka

>Thoughts on different brands?
MM hands down is the best. I have a VM short coat but that's more for fall weather/weak ass southern winters. I've worn MM in -20 F weather with relatively little difficulty as well as blizzards.
>Are brand coats worth full price? Who makes the warmest ones?
MM is, but honestly you can also camp on CC and get a coat for relatively cheap. I don't think I could recommend with confidence other brand coats at full price
>Full length, jackets, capes
Full length for winter, short coats can be for 20-30F, cloaks really should be reserved for above freezing.
>Recommendations on lolita friendly accessories, such as snow boots, winter legwear, hats+gloves ect
Layer, layer, layer. Get a pair of uniqlo heattech stockings, a liner for weather colder than -20F, and turtlenecks to layer under your favorite high collar blouse. I have worn a bolero+jacket+coat for very cold weather. Gloves are also very key but axes femme has cute gloves for a cheaper price.
>Favourite winter prints/coords (yet to get any ap winter releases shown, other than Toy Museum, which isn't very winter themed)
Fanny Rosie has always been a winter inspiration for me! I'm not too much into prints, but anything depressing and dark academia (like library prints and tartan) tend to be used more during winter.

>>10498632
While MM will always have a place in my heart, I switched over to indie brand coats as they are the only ones selling down coats in lolita style which is really needed for the extreme cold winters of my country.

>>10498659
which indie brands do you recommend?

>Thoughts on different brands?
I have one coat from Baby, another on the way, and am thinking of buying a third. All from Baby.
>Are brand coats worth full price? Who makes the warmest ones?
They're worth it to me because I like them. I can't vouch for if you'll survive a snowstorm in them because winter is really mild here but I like wearing coats to feel snuggly.
>Recommendations on lolita friendly accessories
I think the mittens that have a string you hang behind your collar so you don't lose them is really cute. Especially the crocheted bunny ones Baby did years and years ago. I guess a modern version would have the flip-top so you can still use your phone.
>Favourite winter prints/coords
I want to see more red/white coords. AKA candy cane coords.

>>10498639
God nile perch scarves are perfect, so cute and fluffy

>>10498692
There aren't many doing down coats to begin with, the ones in the pic are by Baroque, but Pretty Galaxy and Fanyoumeng also release some every winter, everyone else does them on irregular basis so I just keep an eye out on releases.

>>10498632
has anyone here tried an AP raincoat? are they actually raincoats or more like slightly water resistant windbreakers

>>10498632
>Thoughts on different brands?
I have several coats Ftom AP, Baby, and Meta. One of my AP coats is from 2002 and it’s so warm I overheat. My other two are from 2008 and 2012 and they get progressively thinner. The one from 2012 is my worst (thinnest) of all my coats. But my AP cape from 2013 is pretty legit. Baby and meta coats are both about 6 years old and they’re alright. Not the worst but not the best. All in all I think costs I’ve tried on ir felt from the past few years seem way thinner than my old school ones, but that’s all their clothing in general. The sweet brands aren’t using thick fabrics anymore.

>Are brand coats worth full price?
I’ve never paid more than $60 for a coat so I guess I’d say no. But I think they’re crucial to coords in the winter and someone’s gotta buy them new. I’m just glad it’s not me

>>10498659
This doesn't make sense to me, I live in extreme cold also and the parts where your leg is exposed right over the boot (like in the Fanny Rosie picture) will get raw and frostbitten since it's only a sock or 2 layers of socks. If it's not cold enough that your legs don't need snow pants then you don't need this down jacket. Also, even though I like Baroque, it just looks stupid compared to the beautiful MM-type coats. This is the only time you can wear those beautiful thick fabrics and the down looks really dumb comparatively

>>10498735
>what's thick plush lined stockings

>>10498735
MM coats won't keep you warm at -15°C and bellow, doesn't matter how nice they look.

>>10498739
Not true at all.

You just need a real wool one and you have to wear other appropriate clothes (meaning, REAL fur-lined gloves and boots not some cheap synthetic shit, a proper hat + ear muffs, wool scarf, and so on). I've worn my MM coat at -30°C and colder many times and it's always been plenty warm.

Even snow storms aren't a problem, bc wool still insulates even if it gets wet, unlike most materials.

>>10498739
I think it depends on how acclimated you are to the local weather. I'm fine at -25C with a Baby coat and layers, but someone that's used to warmer weather or just moved north would not be.

>>10498735
I do need it because it's the only material that keeps me warm in winter.

>>10498632
I had this picture on my wall when I was 12. Thanks for the nostalgia, anon!
Since I live in Cali I never get to wear cute winter coats or other winter wear and I'm so sad about it. Bought this one coat that I've used literally once in 4 years.

>>10498632
MM is solid because their coats are usually 50% wool and 50% angora. Older VM can be either 100% wool or 65/35 wool angora from what I’ve seen. Newer coats have the same problems that newer sweet does with mixed synthetics. LG, ETC and JM can have 100% wool coats too. And I think only MMM ventures into cashmere territory. The reason sweet brands don't get touted as aggressively is because they mix poly/nylon/other materials in, and that reduces the effectiveness of the coat. It's much more important to look at the material makeup of the coat than the brand.

>full price
Eh, questionable. I’ve had a lot of luck with cheap MM and VM coats on the secondhand market but I have paid full price for them in the past. For the lone coat on my wishlist I’d probably pay full price just to get the headache of searching for it over and done with.

>>10498632
>Thoughts on different brands?
Best coats I've owned over the years are MM and MmM, Boz was meh
>Are brand coats worth full price? Who makes the warmest ones?
I've never paid full price, but I've bought coats that retailed at 60k yen - 80k seconhand between 60 - 280€ which I think is worth it. For me it's full length coats and maybe capes on top for layering.
>Recommendations on lolita friendly accessories, such as snow boots, winter legwear, hats+gloves ect
Finding black leather boots isn't hard in my country, last couple of years there's always been some pastel available, especially for size EU 38 and below since children's department is available then. For gloves etc I've bought secondhand brand, axes femme and in local stores with small frills and bows on.
>Favourite winter prints/coords
I like snowflakes and general winter scenery a lot

>>10498787
AP uses 75-100% wool on most of their coats and I’ve found them to be pretty warm. Their newer ones are thinner than their older ones, and I’ve been fine, though admittedly I don’t live in extreme winters.

Do you have 1 coat or bunch of different coats for winter?

>>10498829
I have several coats for different styles

>>10498829
I like sweet and gothic so I have five for sweet and three that suit both. All are in varying lengths and thickness.

personally I have some brand cardigans and a full length Infanta coat. coat keeps me pretty warm. Baby and aatp cardigans are... not as warm but they're okay enough for early fall. for full "fuck cuteness i want warm" i have an aaatp hoodie thanks to a cursed lp.

>>10498632
I've always dreamt of owning a coat like this, with capelet and all. It's so damn cute

Are there any lolita coats which you have found look decent without a petticoat underneath? Both specific styles and brands more generally are fine. I move quite a lot and don't have much space, so ideally I'd like to get a lolita coat that can look decent worn with more normie clothes in a pinch.

>>10498640
I got a gorgeous Btssb coat that's basically brand new from wunderwelt a few years ago. It was only $85.

I'm tempted by this coat from Sheglit. It's 50% wool, 50% polyester. I'm thinking it should be fine since it rarely goes below freezing where I live, though I do typically visit family in colder areas during the holidays. I could just wear nonlolita clothes for those visits. Anyone have thoughts on if this coat would be worth it? It is 30,000 yen.

>>10500274
Sheglit is amazing, I have a Sheglit coat I wear all winter long. The Moitie cape was just not warm looking enough

>>10500283
That's good to know! I have no Sheglit items yet, but they look so elegant.

>>10498735
okay but consider: its cute for sweet

>>10498829
Currently have two, would like to have a third. One is a black VM and the other is a beigr AP. A third light neutral classic coat would do me wonders.

It really depends on how many styles you wear, how style specific the coats you wear are and how mch you care about the overall aesthetic in winter (for me, I value it highly)

>>10499020
Short coats. You'll need to coordinate them with your outfits more, but they all (in my experience) look good in and out of lolita.

>>10499020
I have this JetJ coat and it goes really well with normie clothes once you take off the detachable mantle. I've gotten a lot of compliments from relatives on it, it just passes as a nice quality coat from a western brand to them.

>>10498640
Also, AP often ends up discounting them. I prefer AP to Baby since the wool ratio is higher and for $330+ I expect really nice materials. The Baby cape I was looking at was nearly $400 and still a poly blend LMAO.

Ozz On is an excellent choice for gothic outerwear. I got a cape there for $120 that is a wool blend, and had angora fur and excellent craftsmanship, especially at that price point.

>>10498632
Bless this thread. I've been looking to get a coat for years but wool makes me break out in hives. Are there any brands that make non wool coats?

>>10500336
Literally all of them. Polyester is more common than not.

>>10498798
I love Boz’s designs, but yeah..... they’re very inclined towards not actually being warm. They’re cut well with construction, but then run towards being quite thin, sadly.

>>10500336
check taobao brands. I got a FANTASTIC faux fur coat from a brand with Chinese and "XM" in the tag as a free bonus with another item I bought and it is really nice. Nicer than my faux fur AP cape desu. TO ALICE is a good option too, I'm pretty sure most of their outerwear is wool-less, though likely less warm. They have a ton of fleece options. Amavel might also hae stuff, and these brands are also cheaper. In general cheaper should mean less or no wool.

>>10500339
Most of them have at least some wool in the blend anon. I don't think any AP that is meant for coldweather is wool-free.

>>10500331
Seconding Ozz On. Love their outerwear, excellent quality, reasonable price. I also love their blouses.

>>10500336
Maybe check Liz Lisa or Axes Femme? There are a ton on resale markets and CC.

>>10500388
for a good moment i was thinking u were saying it was labeled Extra-Medium

If you’re on a budget, $ for $ I don’t think anything beats older infanta outerwear. I snagged a 70% wool infanta cape on mercari for about $50 and it is incredibly warm and well made. Can’t speak to their new stuff though.

>>10500391
I love Ozz on though some of their stuff is a bit much on the relief and decor for my tastes. I wish they had more understated items.

>>10498632
How is ETC's quality? Found a couple of coats from them that are cute but winters here are often in the negatives.

>>10500388
>I don't think any AP that is meant for coldweather is wool-free.
Their faux fur coats definitely are. Those are completely plastic.

>>10500434
More spring time coats not bulky quite thin.

>>10500429
This. I miss old Infanta so much. Their stuff used to be really well made and I don't know what happened.

>>10500502
They went down the polyester rabbit hole and went to total shit.

How are liz lisa capelets? Like my area gets into the low double digits and would a capelet from LL keep me warmish?

>>10500540
Definitely not. I can actually speak to this because I tried going out in one of their capelets in 40 degree weather and I got a really bad cold. It would be ok for fall though.

>>10498658
This is a gorgeous shot and I love it a lot but I’m also sick to death of it being shared every single time there’s a winter wear thread. Move on, people

>>10500575
Why should we? It’s not like anyone stops sharing street snaps from the 2000s

>>10500575

You could like, share some favorite shots yourself instead of bitching about it.

>>10500546
Ugh, thanks

Have any of you tried the supposed fleece-lined blouses that have been floating around taobao/ali for the last couple of years? Are they comfy? They don't look like the best ever quality but I'd be willing to give up a bit of quality for an extra layer of warmth in winter.

>>10500728
Seconding this. I did buy several fleece lined cutsew style tops from Ali a few years ago that were cute and warm but not exactly lolita, despite the typical femme detailing that Chinese designers put on everything. I’m curious to see how a fleece lined lolita blouse would work.

>>10500736

I usually make my own blouses just for myself and now I'm excited about potential to experiment with this idea. Ive seen the tights and considered buying some for colder months, adding a similar blouse would make it easier to dress for both those days that are too mild for a coat or cape or so cold that the coat isn't enough.

>>10500728
I have one of these, not this exact design but a similar one. It's quite comfy, the inside is very soft but I don't usually wear it if I'm going to be inside for a while because then it's usually too warm. Overall, I don't reach for it as much as I thought it would, but on the days that I do use it it's definitely useful. I live in a really cold part of Canada.

>>10500728
I just got a really similar one. If you buy one, remember to size up a bit cus of how thick it is. I haven't had a chance to wear it out yet, but it was very comfy when trying it on! As another anon said, I wouldn't wear it indoors for too long cus it will definitely be too warm.

>>10500741
When I was going to college in a very cold place I wore Taobao fleece lined tights almost every day. They are definitely warm but honestly too short for my legs (I’m 5’6”). They were always riding down in the crotch.

>>10500728
Here’s a customer review picture of one from Ali. Looks pretty promising.

>>10500830
Do you have the link?

Baby have released a winter wear lucky pack, I would buy it myself but unfortunately it's come out at the wrong time for me

>>10500728
I got on second hand. It is indeed quite useful. But as already stated I got problems being inside with it as it is just way too warm.

>>10500843
>>10500830
Seconding, this is much cuter than I anticipated

>>10501471
https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0NojW9

>>10501068
God I need it

Just bought myself an Innocent world coat super cheap. I've never invested in a lolita coat and I dont own any IW. Are there coats decent?

>>10499012
I own the coat on the right, I haven't had a chance to wear it yet but it's so gorgeous! AP could never make a coat like this now. I recommend searching on Japanese sites as that's where I found mine.

>>10510389
I bought a very old coat of theirs super cheap recently as well. It was in good condition, but much thinner material than I expected. I guess it would be fine as a spring/autumn coat, but it's not going to do me any good in winter. But that's just one coat. Others I've seen look thicker.

Any suggestions on sweet coats/jackets for tallitas with wide shoulders? AP definitely don't fit me, did the mistake of getting one of their jackets as a noob. I doubt other standard lolita brands would be much better. I have a cute loliable black coat from one of those rockabilly/goth brands but I want pastels, or at least white/creams!

>>10513032
Some Axes Femme pieces should work.

>>10513032
A few Baby coats fit me with 40cm shoulders at 5'7". Basically no AP coats are bigger than 36cm in the shoulders sadly. Good luck anon.

>>10498632
Umm is there any brand that makes coats to keep you warm at -30c?

>>10513032
If you can find them, Lilli Ann princess coats from the 50s might suit your taste. They’re pretty much Mary Magdalene coats but cut slightly larger (they were made to people’s measurements). But they are very expensive when sold by people who know what they are.

>>10513255
I have a puffer coat from https://shop110022483.taobao.com/ and it works fine at -15°C so far with only wearing a single sweater bellow, I guess it should work fine with some major layering.

>>10513264
Ok thanks! Have to check out their options! Now i just haven't been wearing any lolita, i haven't got many jackets either for that so ehh

I'm planning to sew my first lolita coat this year after previously only owning capes. I'm excited as I find it far easier to wear my bags and kumyas crossbody or backpack style when I have a garment with proper sleeves. I plan to do a test on fleece and the final one in wool (a lot of custom coats on ali apparently offer polar fleece and use wool as an upgrade, which gave me the idea to use the cheaper material as my test run). Maybe even do some detachable faux fur cuffs and collar.

>>10498658
where to cop this fit pls

>>10515608
Mary Magdalene