/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Is there any interest in a lolita cozy mystery novella? I've had an idea to write one for awhile. Something really light and relatable?

>>10468013
It would have to be very cosy

>>10468013
what is the mystery?

>>10468013
maybe if it had cozy illustrations

>>10468008
I tried to order during the first Royal Bones release. Communication from the start was garbage, it would take them days to respond to messages when they ASKED you to message them to set up a payment plan. I gave up and just paid in full, but ended up canceling when the dress wasn't shipped well after the expected date.

>>10468024
It will be very cozy
>>10468037
The mystery will be a stolen item. No murder or anything like that. It's meant to be very cozy and slice of life. If people like it I might make it a series with other mysteries

>>10468008
Dresses are amazing but has the worst customer service I've ever seen
Owner is a crazy bitch and will throw the victim card when you barely ask for the item you paid one year ago

>>10468013
Build it and they will come

>>10468008
Miss Danger's customer service is non-existent if you're not one of their friends. I was shocked to see they were announcing new pre-orders when they were half a year late with shipping out my order. I can't shake the feeling that it wasn't even cut out from the fabric before I messaged them...

>>10468293
>>10468327
Am I the only one who finds her dresses tacky as shit?

>>10468327
why are lolitas so entitled? like the ones who are either selling, or popular? they act like wearing a piece of cloth makes them better than other people.

>>10468333
Entitled? I wouldn’t call it entitlement when someone pays nearly $500 for a dress and they refuse to answer emails regarding status even when after being many months late on the timeline. At that point you have to wonder if they’re scamming or not. They deleted this but had it posted everywhere for a while. It ignores the fact that a lot of orders were already several months late before covid hit, and that there was no communication from them. It’s also very unprofessional to essentially say they’d dox anyone who was holding them accountable to other brands.

>>10468340
They're in a country that gives zero fucks about whether its citizens scam foreigners. They're also blackmailing you by threatening to blacklist. Duh. You're getting scammed and so are all their other customers. They've just found an easy money machine. You could keep hoping it'll show up some day and maybe it will but nah, I don't think so.

>>10468346
Very bizarre angle that you're coming from here, but keep going my friend.

>>10468353
I never trust buying anything from Russia because there's nothing you can do if they decide to fuck off with your precious freedom dollars. They can run a scam for a while, shut down when people stop buying, and move on to something else. No big deal. Money machine go bbbblyat!

>>10468367
Haha wtf. I think the risk is the same as buying from literally anyone online. Do you think if someone scams you via an online sale the police will fix it or something? Most of the lolita community uses PayPal to conduct business online and PP is generally pretty good at getting your money back. Otherwise you can take it up with your bank or credit card company. Sorry you don't know how to use daddy's credit card, you have to be 18+ to use 4chan btw.

>>10468394
I'm 28 and work fulltime plus overtime for my money. I'm also at least vaguely aware of international law and the fact that there's nothing PayPal can really do if a scammer were to, say, take the money from their recent scamming run off of PP and drop it in a Russian bank. Trusting an American company to help you with disputes in other countries, especially Russia? I mean, go for it. Have fun. Chinese companies can scam people just as bad but they seem to care about having consistent income rather than earning wads of cash here and there.

>>10468367
very clearly not a lolita hahahaha go back to /k/ retard

>>10468397
Settle down Billy Joe. You've never used paypal. You don't know what you think you know about "international law". It's getting late and you need to be up early tomorrow morning for your shift at the Bass Pro Shops. Go to sleep.

>>10468399
Insults instead of an actual response. Stay mad. I'll say hi to Atelier Pierrot for you next time I shop their booth at my local 2021 con. Maybe I'll buy another decora phone case in your honor.

>>10468400
Honestly I'd take a job there over the one I have right now. At least I could laugh at rednecks if I worked there.

>>10468340
I was saying Miss Danger Shop was entitled.

>>10468401
Is this supposed to be a flex

>>10468340
Eternally grateful the location deterred me from ordering. Even if the shop had fulfilled their orders I don't trust the Russian post

>>10468394
No. Certain countries like Canada and NZ have extremely trustworthy postal systems

>>10468397
lmfao keep going larper

>>10468401
Living in Kansas isn't something to brag about

New RPA Halloween release http://royalprincessa.shop-pro.jp/

I think the artwork is really cute but I wish they did a JSK version. Matching tights are available however for anyone who wants to scoop up a pair of cute Halloween legwear

>>10468492

>>10468492

Only marginally lower quality looking than APs little witch and aesthetically less ugly than girly sticker. I'm sure since it's taobao though the chiffon will be far lower quality than AP chiffon pieces.

>>10468505
You really have no idea of what makes something quality of you think >>10468492 comes close to little witch. I get you want to use the ebin AP taobao meme but it’s just embarrassing

>>10468492
Looks like lampshade

>>10468492
I sort of see what you mean with it being the same idea as Little Witch with the style of print and the shape... but like... look at those ugly kittens? The inconsistent shading on each item in the print? Look at that six inches of lace draping off the bottom? Look at how wide the collar is, the separation of neckpiece and bodice using lace, the way the lace overlaps around the edge of the collar.... They're not at all the same.

>>10468505
>RPA
>taobao
anon...

>>10468506

I admitted Little Witch looks better and the material will almost surely be better quality (chiffon is the only polyester AP generally does right). Little witch is just a similar style and also Halloween themed which is why I compared them. The illustrations don't come off as low quality from far away so it doesn't look that much worse than APs print at a distance despite having the weird taobao art style going on in the enlarged illustrations

Girly sticker looks like kindergarten trash though, fight me.

>>10468514

RPA is taobao tier more than brand tier. Just look at the images of the dress.

>>10468516
just admit you don’t know shit and move on lmaoooo

Enchantlic Enchantilly - Bat Duke Ribbon Brooch
>Price: 3,520 yen (tax incl.)

Colours:
>Black
>Blue x black

>https://twitter.com/atelier_pierrot/status/1302175592507297792

JetJ - Labyrinthe de curiosité~好奇心の迷宮~
Price: 45,000 yen (tax not incl.)

Colours:
>Colour
>Monochrome

>https://twitter.com/atelier_pierrot/status/1300617800084463616

Reservations are actually over, but I thought I'd post it on case anyone's curious about what JetJ is up to nowadays.

>>10468523

>>10468523
love the print, but I'm not into classic cuts

>>10468492
>>10468493
I'm in love with those little ghosts, they're just adorable. The kittens don't really seem to match style-wise though. And yeah, I wish either the design of the OP was better or that they could've made a JSK or skirt.

Is anyone else watching the Sea of Serenity streams? I tuned into the "international roundtable" one this morning and it was nice for having on in the background. I even found a few indie brands from it, which was cool.

I miss pre-2016 cgl debates.

>>10468530
I love the stupid icecream cup with devil horns. It makes me think of baskin robbins

>>10468530
I'd be happy if they made the little ghost and devilish gelato into enamels, plush or bag.

>>10468512
Yeah, it's cute but the lampshade lace ruins it.

Where can I get a bat headband rn? New/not used pls. Elegy is sold out and Antique Beast is closed.

>>10468589
Do you need it ready to ship literally right now?
AB usually opens preorders in Sept - Oct in time for halloween. I recommend getting on her mailing list if you want to stay up to date when it would be available

>>10468590
I would like to buy something literally rn since we never know what's gonna happen with covid/shipping situations.

I see a lot of taller lolitas who's skirts are literally as short as their mid thigh. Is it OK not to wear a underskirt now?

>>10468601
Yes! 2020 revolution

>>10468601
sadly yes. looks really tacky and slutty if they don't have tights on.

>>10468603
It also breaks the proportions and turns elegant fashion into a Halloween living doll costume

>>10468603
>>10468605
This depends 100% on substyle (and admittedly looks a lot worse if you've got fat thighs). Skinny gothic lolita with a mid thigh skirt is a solid aesthetic.

>>10468619
eh maybe, but sweet instantly looks like ageplay/ddlg with the zettai ryoiki look

>>10468636
wat?

>>10468640

>>10468636 is living in the 2000s and thinks the small gap of skin between the end of the skirt and start of the thigh high socks (zettai roiki) is so sexually stimulating it automatically counts as ageplay/ddlg when in pastel colors I guess.

>>10468619
I like fat thighs more

Does anyone have an invite to the “Frills and Trump” group on Facebook? We’re all supporters of Donald Trump. You’d be surprised who’s a part of the group.

>>10468677
yeah, here you go
>>>/pol/

>>10468327
Did you ever receive your dress, anon? I finally got mine, several months after the updated due date they gave me.

Their little doxxing post put a very bad taste in my mouth. I get that they were a small business struggling, but people put out a lot of money for these dresses. I would imagine that if money was tight for the buyer, they could At least sell their dress. It was a very unsympathetic stance to blast all over social media.

>>10468658
it looks slutty, period. wear tights or wear an underskirt, pick one.

>>10468709
only to weebs. only weebs fetishize that.

>>10468715
only weebs fetishize short dresses that barely cover your ass? uh no

>>10468709
Wait. So first its ageplay/ddlg and now its slutty? I suppose those things can overlap, but what is the point you're trying to make? Is it ageplay and juvenile, or is it promiscuous and slutty? Or.... do you think children are slutty? Eww.

>>10468492
If they just got rid of the crosses and did pink or black lace id be down for this. The ghosts are cute.

>>10468677
I bet I wouldn't, all the daddy's money entitled cunts and the poverty itas are probably there.

>>10468677
Wtf are people on?

>>10468492
These proportions are so weird, that lace on the bottom is plain ugly

>>10468721
t. triggered giraffe

ageplay & ddlg are both inherently sexual, dumbass. get over it and cover your legs.

I was scrolling through the Japanese lolita coords starting here >>10468689 and holy shit Japanese lolitas look fucking terrible these days. I can't imagine how "Chinese lolitas are ita!" is still a meme when Japanese lolitas look like trainwrecks themselves. These are the girls we're supposed to idolize??

>>10468677
I wish this were true

>>10468768
How is that awful though

>>10468781
Did you look through all of them? They're goddamn tragic. So many mismatched ugly tights, cheap looking out of place corsets, hideous headwear etc.

>>10468783
they look on par with the average westerner

>>10468784
The average westerner is ita so yeah, I guess. That's my point. I can't imagine why Japanese lolitas are put on pedestal these days looking like that.

>>10466868
ok but seriously where can i get this blouse? the sleeves are unique to the ones i see around taobao

>>10468008
I ordered one of their Heavenly Bones dresses - their customer service is shit and while it says it was sent two months ago, the shipping site has not updated and I am having my doubts about it turning up. So even if it does turn up, even tho I have no doubt work goes into making their stuff, the fact I paid more than a normie wedding dress for it and got nothing but shit customer service puts me off buying from them again let alone recommending them to anyone looking for that style.

>>10468516
But it is Japanessu so it is burando bc glorious nippon!!!!

>>10468817

Not all burando is created equal. Just compare BABY to a lot of new AATP and it is really obvious how much quality can vary between Japanese brands.

>>10468787
That one looks bad, get one of the AP ones with floaty sleeves but elegant and lace trimmed

>>10468397
PP themselves would refund the buyer and then go after the seller for the money. You're a fucking moron.

>>10468863
BABY and AATP are the same fucking brand

>>10468870
Technically they’re sister brands so you’d think they’d be the same quality but Baby is the favorite child and AATP is the adopted one who turned out to have autism and the parents resent

>>10468870

That's my point. Sister brands but much of the new AATP that isn't ouji lately is literal trash, and the quality difference between the two with not just the look of pieces but the feel of the materials is striking.

If the difference between two brands under the same ownership is that much, imagine how huge the differences between unaffiliated ones like AP, Meta, BABY, and RPA must be?

>>10468768
Retard weeaboo is shocked to learn that not all Japanese girls are a monolith - more at 6.

>>10468768
If those photos were from a tea party or event I might agree with you but they're literally just people out on the streets

>>10468890
Nayrt but no they're not, they're shop girl/customer coordinates (see >>10468686).

>>10468882
The ouji is trash too and I miss 2011

>>10468767
Ageplay and DDLG are both inherently sexual
But thigh high socks with skin visible are not. Get over it. Not my problem you're getting all hot and bothered over a bit of leg skin.

>>10468864
no i want that one. where is it from?

>>10468889
I mean I already knew that, but the western comm is always going on and on and how we have to follow DA JAPANESE RULES!!!! and emulate DA JAPANESE STYLES!!!! because they are the only ones who DO LOLITA RIGHT!!!! Like that's just factually incorrect at this point, they look pretty bad.

>>10468636
>>10468709
>>10468767
Okay coomer

>>10468991
I haven't seen anyone say "the japanese are the only ones who do lolita right" since about 2010 so I'm not sure what noob weebs you're hanging out with, but stop that.

>>10469026
This board is literally where I see it so are you new or just blind?

>>10469036
A decent amount of people say that western and japanese lolita at this point have deviated in style, much like how western larme is very different from japanese larme. it may not be the most popular opinion but it's not unheard of

>>10469045
Those people must be pretty quiet then. We had multiple threads about "the rules" just a couple months ago and anons went apeshit over the suggestion that lolita has grown and changed in different cultures, and that each culture has developed its own set of rules.

>>10468619
>tfw your bmi is less than 17 and you still have fat thighs

>>10469065
You probably just have an ed, anon. Everyone’s thighs look relatively large from their own perspective.

>>10469090
Thanks anon, they're 48cm though so still pretty big
>;_;

>>10469036
When the japs aren't dressing like a max limit break ita, they're pretty cute

>>10469108
that's not a fat thigh size. get help

>>10468786
I've been saying this for years. Go to Ikebukuro or Harajuku and you'll see nothing but Japanese itas

>>10469147

Eh. I've been. Even lined up for an AP release just for the experience. Most of the itas in sloppy wigs were Chinese tourists as they spoke Chinese in line. Most of the cute ones in cute wigs also spoke chinese though, so....idk? All I'm saying is you can't just say there are itas in Japan and therefore all Japanese lolitas are itas.

Japanese lolitas have gotten surprisingly hard to find. Last ones I saw was a whole group of them at Christon cafe. They were impeccable, and also this was way back in 2010. So I totally get it if in 2010 people were saying Japanese lolitas are perfect and they aren't now.

Still, anon sounds like they have selective retention. I've been on this board since PT days don't remember this kind of distinctive bias to the board. Sounds more like they got into an argument with some rando and one-sidedly held some kind of grudge ever since then.

btw, I'm not Japanese, so I'm glad if people don't put them up on a pedestal and say that we should copy them, it'll be nice if lolita was about clothes and not what race/nationality you are. I just think it's bullshit and anon should get over it.

>>10469158
You really need to pay more attention if you somehow haven't noticed all the posts saying Japanese lolitas/rules are god, Chinese lolitas are all ita for not following those rules etc on this board the last couple years. Then you have all the (outdated) lolita starter guides that put Japanese lolitas/rules on a pedestal as gospel too.

>>10469158
Anon, Japanese lolitas are not that hard to find lmao. They would have been at the AP release you claim to have been at and they go to cafes and shops around the usual hotspots. There are definitely itas that are locals and the usual nitpicks are their unkempt wigs, mismatched legwear and lack of petti

What a surprise, turns out there's both itas and well-dressed lolitas among Japanese girls, just like anywhere else.

>>10468013
very interested, write it please

There was this etsy shop called "piratessan" and they made these adorable bunny hear head pieces, does anyone know what happened to them? I tried to look for their shop but it's empty. Did they change their name or something? Pls help

>>10469231
I have a feeling that she closed down her store recently, but I could be imagining things! This site seems to have a few of her items in stock though: https://store.lolitacollective.com/collections/piratessen

>>10469234
>>10469231
Samefag, I'm dumb and she didn't close down at all - I must have been thinking of someone else! Her store is here: https://lolitabutiken.se/index.php/

>>10469189

I didn't say they were extinct though? They've just gotten surprisingly hard to find.

2010 there were a couple of lolitas at nearly every train station. We did Osaka and Tokyo that year. 2016 and they've become rare animals.


>>10469177

I've noticed the chinese-shitting, but that's a seperate topic from worshipping Japanese lolitas. They aren't even always the same people, and putting down one group so that you can stand up for another doesn't make you any less racist.

>>10469235
She's closing down Lolitabutiken though and reopening under a new name this autumn

>>10468603
Disagree. I'd much rather short skirt with socks than tights. Tights make it look so awkward. If you have long legs, flaunt them, don't hide them.

>>10469271
I've went 3 times the past 2 years, always saw lolitas out and about in the standard places like laforet, shibuya, harajuku etc. Usually in pairs. They were dressed well, don't remember seeing any itas.

Why do Western indie lolita brands always post shit like this?

>>10469416
because it's trendy

>>10469416
Do let me know who this is so I can never buy from them.

>>10469108
shut the fuck up

>>10469416
Fuck this fucking dipshit. Move to a beautiful communist country then and see how well your shitty handmade fancy fashion brand does there. McCarthy did nothing wrong and actually didn't go far enough.

>>10469361
this is not the fashion for "flaunting." might as well have tits and beer bellies hanging out too.

>>10469271
>pointing out ugly trends in japan is racist
wat

>>10469235
Looks like that's just a reseller. I think her shop did close down.

>>10469441
Most of your point is fair but McCarthy was a bloodthirsty moron, come on.

Also unrelated but the actually beautiful cities in former communist Eastern European countries are some of the best places to wear lolita in my opinion. A lot of the talented handmade people are there too.

>>10469441
This

>>10469416
who is this so I never accidentally give them my money

>>10468367
Ok racist

>>10469474
)))):

>>10469271
how tf is it racist? western chinese even know mainland fashions are bad.

>>10469441
Guess no more taobao for you since you don't want to support commie countries I guess

>>10469479
Who says we buy taobao dipshit?

>>10469479
China has a capitalist economy though

>>10469361
this isn't the fashion for "flaunting" any body part. might as well have your tits hanging out too

>>10469271
>calling trends ugly makes you racist
wat

>>10469612
Welcome to 2020, everything is racist

is sololita a reliable site?

>>10469612

From >>10468768
>Japanese lolitas look like trainwrecks

What trend is that, being a particular nationality?

Other than brand shops, where else do you get your tights/OTKs?

>>10469681
Take it to the stupid questions thread friend

Baby are hosting another drawing and coord contest, this time the theme is 'Kumya chan full of love, sweet style'. There's no dress prize for the drawing contest this time (it's just an ita bag), but there's several for the coord contest

https://harajuku-pop.com/wp-content/plugins/hrpxbaby_3/

So I've been working on a comprehensive alternative brand/shop spreadsheet, something that compiles everything into one sheet and includes small indie brands.

It's very much a WIP (and I've been busy at work recently) but please let me know what you think! Is this something people are interested in?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DSXr4EQ5yXOFU1wLvRL0_oIdr59uJbO3uj7D3a7uS0k/edit?usp=sharing

>>10470034
Apologies if some of the categories seem a bit vague or too broad, I was trying to work out how to best group related styles?

>>10469937
teja jamilla has some rly good designs

>>10470005
Oh Shit, I can enter this one!

>>10468601
VIVA LA BLOOMERS

>>10470034

Looks good anon, bookmarked!

>>10470034
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DSXr4EQ5yXOFU1wLvRL0_oIdr59uJbO3uj7D3a7uS0k/edit?usp=sharing

Youre doing Mana-level work, Anon. This is really cool. One opinion I would offer is that you shouldn't get too stuck integrating all of the Taobao shops in the brands last because there is another giant spreadsheet for that. Maybe link to it and/or include the main clothing brands? Not sure what is best.

>>10470039
If you like narwhals I guess

>>10470061
Thank you <3

It should be linked on the intro page already? I decided pretty early on not to include taobao as it’d be pretty redundant (and there’s way to many). I might include some more reputable Taobao resellers though since it’s useful for newbies.

>>10470034
Where's And Romeo and Maxicimam? Also,
>Mio Matsuda
Memes aside, good job anon!

>>10469365
You need to look harder. There are itas everywhere, your eyes are just drawn to attractive people. I've seen many 40+ year old itas with greasy uneven pigtails, shoe choices I would consider inappropriate, and wrinkled brand dresses you can hardly recognize as brand because they ran them through a top load washing machine and ruined the print. I've also seen nice coords in plenty of places, but just as often there are girls wearing beat up tennis shoes and trying to hide them behind their bags when they sit down, or girls with mismatched blouses that they clearly bought from UniQlo. Itas exist everywhere because Japanese people don't magically have some deeper intrinsic understanding of how to look put-together. Look harder next time. Ikebukuro especially is full of itas, wannabees, and really uncomfortable, awkward looking fujoshi in ill fitting clothing.

>>10469365
what's the lolita equivalent of yellow fever? bc you have it

>>10470326
frilly yellow fever?

>>10470034
At least make a distinction between brand and taobao and don't just lump them all in under Asia. Are you also including dead brands? You can still search for them on secondhand sites so I think it's worthwhile.

>>10470317

You can wash brand in a top loader just fine you fucking larper.

Y'all really lierally just don't know how to wash your goddamn clothes do you?

Gentle reminder that MM is set to reopen sometime within the next week.

>>10469158
Nah, I’ve been to basically every major release in Tokyo since 2018 and guess what? There are itas both Japanese and Chinese alike. I always go in normie clothes because honestly it can be a long wait for the frills. It yeah, every time you see weird hodgepodge normy/ap dress and I’ve seen it from both Chinese and Japanese alike. The biggest offender is definitely misty sky, it’s always getting paired off in the most bizarre combos

>>10469204
I am also interested

>>10470034
As a eurofag I am extremely grateful!
Good job Anon!!!!

>>10470345
I won’t be including Taobao brands unless they have their own site (such as soufflé song and r-series). I’ve included a link to the existing Taobao spreadsheet on the intro page.

I hadn’t planned on including dead brands originally but I could add them along with an extra column to show if they’re active or not?

>>10470371
Wtf is this woman a midget

>>10470405
The rest of her legs are just behind the grass and then cropped.

>>10470435
It’s still extremely long on her. This op is more generously sized than older MM stuff, but you’d still have to be under 4’11” for the cuffs to come that far down your hand.

>>10470005
Where can I see the winners of the previous contest?

>>10470317
>goes where otaku hang out
>"There are itas everywhere!"

>>10470600
you seriously need to cure your yellow fever, holy shit. there are plenty of japanese itas all over, as you can see constantly on twitter

Reminder that a new Lolita @ Home project has started, the theme is usakyuma this time.

>>10470532
https://harajuku-pop.com/10508

>>10470371
Thought they died.

>>10470692
they did, and now they're back, hence the term "reopen"

>>10470317
>>10470326
You're both misconstruing my response. I was offering up a personal experience from going to Japan on vacation earlier than 2010 or 2016, to verify that yes, people are still wearing Lolita in 2019 and 2020 because I saw it with my own eyes, and it was common enough that I remembered seeing girls wearing Lolita looking proper on my trips on multiple occasions. Personally, no, during my vacations, I did not spot any itas. This wasn't meant to mean that "there is no such thing as a Japanese ita" because of course that's not true, duh.

People that stay in Japan for longer periods of time living there like >>10470374
or >>10470317 probably have more opportunities to see itas
>tfw the best-dressed lolita and the best-dressed yumekawa girl that I saw were both in Ikebukuro

>>10470354
Have you seen the standard JP top load washing machine? I can guarantee you will wreck your clothing in it. It can literally shred your clothes and causes insane pilling. You can't throw a brand dress into a cheap 10,000 yen top load washing machine without color catchers and some sort of protective garment bag if you want it to come out in one piece. Been there done that. In my ita phase I ruined two brand dresses in Japan because I couldn't figure out why the fuck the machine was mutilating my clothes.
>>10470600
News flash, the alternative fashion people in Japan hang out where alternative people are. The density of lolitas is higher in Harajuku, Akihabara, and Ikebukuro where they're less likely to be molested. And Sunshine City Mall has hosted lolita events in the past.

>>10470898
Most Japanese natives or transplants I've known just take their clothes to the local laundry shop or hand wash them if they're desperate. Most Japanese folks have small wardrobes and focus on everything being high quality and functional. I guess washing machines in the home is rare enough that you need an imported one to get any use out of it. Japanese companies don't focus on quality because they don't profit enough from the sales.

>>10470903
this is the weebiest shit i have ever fucking heard.

>>10470908
Real Japanese culture is weeby? The fuck? I guess talking about anything Japanese on a board focused on Japanese clothing is weeby. Who fucking knew.

>>10470903
This is bullshit and you sound stupid - almost every house and apartment has space and plug ins for a washer.

>>10470898
Imagine living in Japan and being so dumb you don't know how to set the washer to the gentle/handwash cycle

>>10470909
no i mean because you're so fucking incorrect.

>>10470903
>focus on everything being high quality and functional
uh you just mean japanese lolitas right? because japanese people in general wear the same shitty fast fashion as everyone else

>>10470919
Nayrt but if they’re talking about this kind of cheap machine that’s pretty common in Asia, they don’t really have a delicate cycle.

>>10470953
How does it fuck up clothes so badly?

>>10470898
>Harajuku, Akihabara, and Ikebukuro
Yeah okay, now I know you're making shit up. No one likes getting harassed by tourists.

>>10470974
You can tell by the plastic insert thingy, can’t you? They basically clean by scratching your clothes against that unfiled plastic, which obviously shreds anything other than jeans and boxers to bits.

Anyone recognize this dress / what brand it is? I imagine it's something from taobao, but the design is cute

>>10471063
>>10469844

>>10470953
I have never seen this in a Japanese home, what kind of backwards hick town do you think Japan is?
This is probably more used in rural parts of Vietnam or China, where they can't afford proper washing machines.

>>10470898

>cheap top load washing machine
>past tense

Look, I don't want to nitpick, but those are some very important key points. At some point toploading washing machines got better and they're much gentler on your clothes now, though I can't remember exactly what they fixed. So those two things would make a huge difference in generalising the behaviour of toploading washing machines everywhere.

source: parents made a point of only getting sideloaders in my childhood for this exact reason. We switched to toploaders some time in the last decade (last century? it's been a while actually) because toploaders have improved so much now. We don't own a cheap one, though. I mean if you actually live here and need to rely on a machine why cheap out and get a dodgy one instead of a reliable machine.


Any way. The cognitive dissonance isn't about doubting your experience. Tons of girls here buy used brand off mercari, fril, yja, mbok, cc, wunderwelt, glass forest, maiden something, fairy whatsit, etc etc. If they were really ruining prints as much as you say they are, there should be way more scandalously faded, ruined dresses out there on the Japanese market rather than the near-pristine condition we're rather more used to.

PSA for anons still living in Japan with cheap toploaders, Daiso sells garment bags in various shapes and sizes, so you don't have to go through an ita phase of ruining your burando.

Peace out, I just had to say two cents because I thought a lot of things didn't look right with anon's comments. Y'all can go back to arguing about Japanese lolitas now.

>>10470953

Most Japanese apartments I lived in had a laundry room on the property with normal sized washers; anon claiming these are the norm/standard for people in an apartment or house is mistaken. Yes most Japanese hang their laundry to dry, which can fade dresses. But a standard Japanese full/normal sized washer and/or dryer are not going to destroy your clothes and have multiple settings so if they do it's because the person using them couldn't read.

>>10470953
A top load machine should be something like pic related. I own one and wash all my brand with it and never had anything damaged. Just don't overstuff it and it should be fine. Japanese appliances are also high tech af. Space efficient doesn't equal poor quality standard.

>>10471127
My thought process on this is that damaged things don't sell well secondhand so the really damaged goods just get thrown in the trash or donated.
Hell the "C" ranking in CC is usually just some slight fading or piling that a Western lolita would list as in "good" condition.
Interestingly enough, it seems that you can sometimes find damaged brand in Thailand's secondhand flea markets. Those can be in really terrible condition though.

>>10471172
>it seems that you can sometimes find damaged brand in Thailand's secondhand flea markets. Those can be in really terrible condition though

Elaborate? This sounds really interesting

>>10471176
Nayrt but I’ve found lots of Jfashion in Thai markets when I lived there, mostly Axes Femme. No lolita brand, but it’s probably out there. What I found was honestly less damaged than what you typically get on keimarket.

>>10471172

I get where you're coming from, but the numbers just don't add up. If you take a look at the frequency and the number of items closet child updates, there's no way all of that comes from one or five wardrobes. There's gotta be several girls ditching their dresses to closet child, let alone to WW and other shops (Tokyo Alice and Violet Blue are still around, right?). Then look at the number of different accounts selling lolita on yja, fril, mercari, mbok.

That's just a lot of girls who are selling pristine secondhand. So they must have a method of properly caring for their dresses, toploaders or no.

Which means, there's a hefty chunk of the Japanese lolitas who do know how to take care of their dresses. So they aren't hanging out in "otaku places" in damaged, piling, wrinkled burando.

If the majority of Japanese lolitas are really throwing out damaged brand then that fleamarket in Thailand would just be swimming in damaged burando by now, not just "sometimes". "Sometimes" can be like the person whose lolita wardrobe ended up at Goodwill for who-knows-what reason. Just because you can sometimes find burando at Goodwill does not mean it's normal for American lolitas to throw their old burando out to Goodwill all the time.

>>10471185
>So they must have a method of properly caring for their dresses, toploaders or no.
they wear it once or twice then sell it is how

>>10471191

You're assuming the Japanese community is as broke/has as much wardrobe turnover as the Western community does which may be true but not neccesarily.

>>10471191

This still means that when they wear it that one time, it will still look un-wrinkled, un-damaged, no ruined prints.

>>10471202
True

>>10471201
It does though

>>10471176
I found ETC, millefleurs, pink house and a really damaged btssb jsk during my trip there. But the prices aren't really that much cheaper than the C ranked stuff at CC.
>>10471185
The really damaged stuff gets rejected or sold for really cheap at a sad corner of the CC shops. Recently they've been putting some of it online so you can see the used and yellowed AP dresses going for cheap.
I'm not that anon you're arguing with btw, just adding my 2 cents about damaged brand. Japanese lolitas take better care of their clothes in general, and they're probably more nitpicky about damage.
But there's also a fair share of used and worn brand out there.
The Thai fleamarket isn't swimming in brand because it also carries vintage old Japanese clothes. The small amount of brand stuff is also reflective of the number of lolitas vs normies in Japan. No one said it was a holy dumping site of old lolita clothes, duh.

>>10471215

I mean, if you're saying you've seen damaged brand for sale at CC, and also agreeing that the Japanese lolitas take better care of their clothes, then it's the anon who claims the Japanese lolitas ruin their burando and then throw them away rather than sell them that's making stuff up?

I don't see any contradictory points here.

>>10471228
Uh just to be clear, I'm not the weird person here >>10470898. But I am >>10471172.
My point is that they don't usually sell the "scandalously damaged" stuff. Even the damaged stuff at CC is usually still wearable. So that's why we probably see clothes in generally better condition secondhand in Japan than in the Western market.
The anon with the theory about washing machines in Japan shredding people's clothes is just crazy.

>>10471267
>My point is that they don't usually sell the "scandalously damaged" stuff.
Nayrt, but I definitely agree. If you look at how secondhand shops sell "new" and used items (not lolita), you can tell. Selling in this manner is very much part of the secondhand culture in Japan.

>>10471286
Yeah and also the "damaged" stuff gets marked down by quite a lot secondhand.
I got a JM OP for 4000 yen just because a tiny spot was discoloured. I can't imagine how little they must have paid the original seller, maybe 2000 yen or less?

At that point I'd rather just keep the dress or bin it than to sell it.

>>10468990
sentaro, ffs

>>10471228
When the fuck did anyone say that Japanese lolitas ruin their brando then throw it away?
I said ITAS ruin their brand dresses and throw them away. You think the cosplay otaku itas are reselling on CC and WW? They know their clothes are bad and they throw them away. We're talking about ITAS and not making generalizations that all Japanese lolitas are magically better at taking care of their clothes because they have nice washing machines and are careful with their items and care deeply about the fashion. You're reading way too deeply into it. I said that itas exist, and Japanese itas who damage their clothes because they don't know what they're doing exist. Because they are no different than Western Itas who somehow still manage to damage their clothes in the washing machine.And where will the itas in Japan be? In the otaku areas. Because they're itas. I don't see why you're not getting the point.

Stop idolizing "high tech Japan" and "pristine Japanese lolitas" like Japanese people are any better educated or high tech than the west. They're not and you look like a fucking weeb.

>>10471311

Itas wearing cosplay maid outfits aren't damaging their brand because they don't have any; you implied or outright stated girls are wrecking their brand dresses, stop backpedaling.

>>10471311
You sound like a nutcase

>>10469158
As a Chinese person, when I was in Japan, most lolitas were actually Chinese, either travelling or living in Japan. Just an anecdote, though.

>>10471322
>you implied or outright stated girls are wrecking their brand dresses
Because they are.
>cosplay maid outfits
I know what AP looks like, faggot.

>>10471333
Weeb.

>>10471375

You literally called them cosplay otaku itas. Namecalling won't make you sound less ridiculous.

>>10471063
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000077244953.html

I put "mushroom lolita dress black" into google image search.

What are people’s opinions on constellation prints? Ita magnet, or iconic lolita staple? Can they only be worn in a sweet way, or can classic and gothic use them too? Does anyone have any pics of favourite coords that use them?

>>10471415
I think they're fine. They're an ita manner for sure, but itas with them seem to do better coords than other ita magnets.
I owned that dress in particular though and was really underwhelmed with it. I'm personally tired of them, and the market seems a little tired of them too, but I expect they will come back eventually.

>>10471127
Most likely because current toploaders don't use center agitators anymore.

Hey kumya sluts

>>10471514

the jewelry and the wristcuffs with the kumya head stitching aaaaa

Beepop

I'm going to fuck myself with a huge dildo and make sure to get my pussy juice everywhere in my lolita clothes and then sell them on LM

>>10471581
I cant wait to hump my usakumya and then sell it unf

>>10471514
oooohhhhh my godddddddddddd

>I need it

>>10471514
Holy shit where did you see this?

>>10471586
Here
>http://kerastyle.jp/fashion/40917

This ancient ugly thing is getting a re-release.

>>10471594

I thought this was Milanope and had to scroll up to check the brand.

>>10471592
I WANT THE RING so BAD.

tfw when your whole state is engulfed in flames.
I'll be lucky if all my lolita doesn't end up a pile of ash

>>10471415
I hate canstellation prints

>>10471669
I hate self righteous people like this.
She just looks like those bitchy mean girls in highschool. I'm glad she made herself look stupid tho

>>10471669
Which group did this happen in?

>>10471735
What is that dress?

>>10471669
Is that a *worksafe* plug? AHAHAHAHA xD

Tfw when all the oldfags unite to defeat the newfags B)

someone bought my lacemarket listing to scalp on xianyu! the circle is complete.

Just a heads up, did some searches and saw that /cgl/ had been mentioned on /v/, /pol/, /ck/, /lit/ and /r9k/ recently, which reminded people of /cgl/'s existence. This is likely why the entire board has gone to shit. Of course, these crossboarders mostly don't care about board quality (one poster tried to link an off-topic thread he made here back to /ck/ and failed miserably), and they think it's a novel experience to be on "the girl board". It's happened before, they'll eventually learn to fit in or shift out, so just hang on tight till then, report low-quality posts and don't take the bait, okay?

I love you gulls.

>>10469271
>complaining about racism
>meanwhile calling people animals

>>10471830
Gulls will never not take the bait so you’re just preaching to the choir here

>>10468492
This would be cute for $100, not the price they sre charging for it

>>10471830
Thanks for the heads-up, I was wondering if that had happened lately

>>10471830
Wtf do the /pol/ scumbags say about us??? I can’t imagine egl/cosplay ever being relevant to them unless it’s just pure sexism

>>10471847
It's the usual
>where can I find a gf on 4chan???
>cgl is the girl board
>omg a girl board???
>yeah but they're crazy
>haha guys check it out! such a surreal experience zomg
Then maybe a comment or two about how women are pigs.

>>10471830
I love cgl but can't stand other boards cause they are so rude and nasty. Girls are lovely, men are pigs

>>10471415
I liked them at first but then I saw it too many times and it got boring. Same with Misty Sky and Holy Lantern. Too bad because the print looks really nice irl.

since everyone itt seems to have no idea how to use resin i will post what safety precautions you should take and why. for epoxy and uv

epoxy
>use a mask or be in a well ventilated room while working with uncured resin
you don't need the respirator here but the chemicals may cause dizziness and a nauseous feeling if the room isn't well ventilated. it is shown that frequent inhalation can cause asthma, but this is certain types of industrial epoxy used in a work setting on a daily basis.

>use a mask or respirator when sanding, filing, cutting or otherwise breaking the resin
epoxy's molecular structure is long which lends itself to strength but also cause any particles to remain long and "sharp". like stated before, the particles can embed into the lungs and cause lasting respiratory damage.

>wear gloves while handling uncured resin, i am begging you
every kind of resin can cause skin allergies if handled without gloves. said allergies are permanent and cannot be treated or reversed. handling of uncured resin can also exasperate preexisting skin conditions such as eczema or psoriasis. i can't stress enough how important it is, because the more you handle uncured resin the worse the allergy can get.

uv resin

>try to use a mask and well ventilated area while working with uncured resin
uv resin is made of different polymers than epoxy. since it is uv activated and has a shorter chemical reaction, less fumes are emitted and these fumes generally don't cause any problems. uv resin is generally considered nontoxic, but you should still take some precautions while curing.

>wear a mask when filing etc.
uv resin doesn't have the same molecular structure, but not wearing a mask while creating particles may cause the resin allergy to develop. so i'd recommend atleast something to keep dust particles out of your system.

>wear gloves while handling uncured resin
again, this is important because of the allergy that can develop.

>>10471921
I can't believe you're saying that when the majority of cgl posters are so nasty lmao

>>10471921
Sir, this is not how you fly under the radar and try to fit in.

>>10471848
lmao how ruined is someone’s brain to think 4chan could possibly lead them to finding a gf

>>10471984
90% of these guys on 4chan will try to slide into your dms and immediately talk about how lonely they are. and it is a huge turn off.

>>10471921
We say mean things on the internet but it's hardly comparable to pol posting, CP posting, or literal gore posting
Y chromosomes are defective

>>10471993
Lolitas doxx each other over frilly dresses constantly though. That's really not much better.

>>10471989

p sure i once met one of those scrotes irl, he immediately tried to talk me into breaking up with my current bf. bitch i don't even know you you just stalked me into a women's apparel store.

sage but i was wearing lolita at the time so technically on topic?

>>10472014
You really think bullying over clothes is “not much better” than cp?

>>10471989
I met my bf on tinder but he’s a 4chan guy (/o mostly) and it may as well have been like this. As soon as we matched he started whining about how stupid average people were and how sad and lonely he was. So I deduced he was a 4chan type and we ended up bonding over that. (I was wearing lolita in some of my pictures which he knew of from cgl) And now... we’re engaged, because we’re both insufferable misanthropes, oh well

>>10472016
No, CP is bad but acting like women on 4chan are pinnacles of morality is just laughable.

>>10472021

Lolitas literally don't doxx each other over dresses tho? Not sure where you got that. Lolitas can be catty but none of us are wanking it to underage lolis/cp or worse.

>>10472019
Anon...... that makes me so sad... that you're so pathetic you had to settle for that.....

>>10472085
Meh. Some pretty bitchy and ridiculous shit has happened on here in the past but for the most part /cgl/ isn't full of psychopaths. You're right though. I'd take the doxxing over "she's technically 900 so I'm not actually fapping to kiddie porn, she just LOOKS like an elementary schooler!!!!" any day. Fucking nasty.

>>10472088
>Anon...... that makes me so sad... that you're so pathetic you had to settle for that.....
Yeah, well, his personality kind of sucks but he’s hot, makes a lot of money, buys me all my brand and has imprinted on me due to his mental illness. Could be worse

>>10472113
peak cringe peak yikes

>>10472113
you can be hot, make money, buy yourself brand, and like yourself... yourself. but that takes effort.

gulls were complaining that newschool models all look depressed. check it out, we got one happy one.

>>10472132

Many BTSSB models always have a small smile in their promo photos, at least the ones I see on insta. I think people mostly meant AP models like Risa.

>>10472113

jesus christ dude, love yourself

>>10472019
i started talking to someone i met here recently but he's not a piece of trash so...

>>10471976
nta but at least we don't have the racism, weird conspiracy theories about jews, or constant use of the word "roastie"

>>10471848
4chan is weird man

>>10472161
>at least we don't have the racism
Anon, I...
>use of the word "roastie"
But women calling each other sluts, whores and bitches is so much better?
I'll give you the part about Jews, though.

Did anyone else watch Atelier Pierrot's live? The shop staff were so cute and their English was pretty good! The new shoes that they previewed were super cute as well!

>>10472113
This kind of guy always get on my nerves with their entitlement and I could never imagine someone being truly happy with one of those, but if you are the exception congrats

>>10471830
God i need to stop going on here

>>10471735
what is that dress (lolita fashion)

>>10471669
kek she's digging her own grave offering to buy it from gemgem

>>10471984
Hey, I found my bf on 4chan and he's great

Idk if this belongs in price check thread or general but I'm hype for the amount of people listing old AP jewelry so many things I didn't see often on LM now being listed super frequently which means lots of people have multiple chances to get their favorite things...maybe if this trend continues people will start selling their wristcuffs too.

Quick question, is the new Violet fane’s print an original drawing or just straight up copy’s of old art? I’m not too familiar with the brand

>>10472449
All I have as a source is someone on /cgl/ saying this, but apparently the art is new and original, just done in the styles of old shoujo artists. I hope that's true because then I don't have to feel bad about her slapping someone else's art on her products and it would also be pretty amazing that she managed to replicate those artist's styles so faithfully.

>>10472449
They're taken randomly from google images as far as I know

>>10472449
The designer stated on her IG a while back that it’s her own illustration.

>>10472156
Different anon, but when youre an asshole too, you can't judge other people for being assholes. I'd date asshole and hot, but only because I'm an asshole too. It seems anon is the same way

>>10472483
>but when youre an asshole too, you can't judge other people for being assholes
The hell i can't. I will date sweet guys regardless.

How long should you wait to hear back from a buyer on LM? A girl bought something from me last night but hasn't responded to my invoice or my LM message. Is this common?

>>10472499
She actually purchased it Thursday night, my bad.

>>10471415
I like them and I think that they can be coorded with classic and gothic if you're careful. I'm a lonelita without instagram though, so my view of them isn't tainted by seeing a bunch of itas wearing them.

>>10472132
Idk how she can be so happy when they did her makeup like that. It is really cute though, BTSSB>AP as always.

>>10471812
like pottery

>>10472499
I'd be annoyed. Usually I hear back within a day. Usually I'd message a few reminders and give it a week incase they're busy or hit some sort of emergency.

>>10471812
Name and shame

>>10472499
24hours, and also put something like that in your TOS

Secrets

>>10472609
hell yeah

>>10471932
I had the opposite reaction. Saw HL and misty sky often enough that they've grown on me and I’ll probably be getting a couple of colors at some point in the future after knocking a couple of other dresses off my wishlist.

...Maybe Physical Drop isn't so bad after all.

Patricia Short Coat with Cape (ケープ付パトリシアショートコート)
>Price: 59,400 yen (tax incl.)

Colours:
>Black (ブラック)
>Off-white (オフホワイト)
>Chealsea pink (チェルシーピンク)
>Peacock (ピーコック)

Outer material: At least 75% wool (differs from colour to colour)
Lining: 100% polyester

Length: 70 cm
Shoulder width: 37 cm
Sleeve length: 59 cm
Cuffs: 27 cm
Bust: 95 cm
Waist: 80 cm

>http://www.victorianmaiden.jp/SHOP/204MCO05.html
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Patricia Long Coat (パトリシアロングコート)
>Price: 71,500 yen (tax incl.)

Colours:
>Black (ブラック)
>Bordeaux (ボルドー)
>Chelsea pink (チェルシーピンク)
>Purple navy (パープルネイビー)

Outer material: 75% wool, 15% polyester, 5% angora, 5% nylon
Lining: 100% polyester

Length: 110 cm
Shoulder width: 36 cm
Sleeve length: 59 cm
Cuff: 28 cm
Bust: 92 cm
Waist: 82 cm

>http://www.victorianmaiden.jp/SHOP/204MCO04.html
Note: Waist size can be adjusted using the sandwiched back belt. There are pockets.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Reservation date: 14th September 2020, 10:00 JST to 23rd September 2020, 25:59 JST
There is a 10% discount if the item is reserved.

>>10472696
The short coat is gorgeous. Thanks for sharing.

>>10472696
The buttons aaaaaa

>>10472636

You'd think I'd have figured this out because I'm equally plus-sized and my homemade always looks darn sad on my standard-size-small mannequin but holy shit this is still blowing my mind with how sad it looks on the mannequin and how good it looks worn.

>>10470385
That might work well especially with some reviving like MM

>>10472696
These are beautiful but how can I pull the trigger on either without seeing which coat MM is going to release

>>10472750
We already know that MM is releasing their Génoise Coat though?

>>10472710
Wow those are super cute.

>>10472754
Oh I guess I missed that. Do you know the price?

>>10472754
>those ass wide trumpet sleeves making sure that your arms will freeze off
Such a disappointment. This is like the only coat design by MM that I hate.

>>10472764
Nope, sorry.

>>10472765
are you a fucking idiot?

Just thinking about ribbons and how i rarely see anyone using them. Yeah, bow clips are cute, but legit ribbons are way cuter. Same with little neck bows. Tying your hair into pony tails with ribbon looks just as nice as brand bows attached to dime store pony tail holders imo. I adore pinning a tiny ribbon to a vest or shirt collar with a pin or brooch.

>>10472777
No it doesn't you just have bad taste.

>>10472772
I guess you didn't get my point. I live on the coast, winters tend to be cold and windy and I like my arms to be kept warm. Those air sucking sleeves is not what I am looking for in a winter coat.

>>10472765
I also hate the trumpet sleeve coats, but not so much the draft aspect, just that they look ridiculous.
I feel a bit more vindicated now that you’ve introduced the legitimate issue of the cold getting in

>>10472636
I adore Physical Drop and I guess that's just me but I'm fine with that, more for me. That cardi's cute too!

Is there a reason k8 is selling so much stuff on LM? I guess I should check the farm for in depth deets but she's listed a ton of stuff lately.

>>10472802
There’s only speculation posted on the farm, but how is it that you know about the farm but don’t know that posts like the one you just made are against /cgl/ rules?

>>10472803

I guess I didn't see it as vendetta posting to ask. And people speculate/break rules all the time around here as well and nothing ever happens unless it's about Lor typically and then things get deleted.

>>10472805
You sound new as fuck, the lax modding in the way you’re describing has really only been happening in this year

>>10472806

Whether it is recent or not that's the way it's currently been for long enough that a pattern has been established.

>>10472802
what’s the LM name ?

>>10472826
owls

MODS

>>10472636
I actually love the cardi. Is it Physical Drop as well?

>>10472826

Cadney also listed some similar items like the elephant ring and necklace set today as well. Makes me happy to see these things popping up more. Wonder which listing will go for more.

I'm a little sad, doesn't seem like Baby is releasing a new Usakumya despite the whole dress being themed around her.... the collection is up on the official website, and she's not a part of it.

>>10473122
they are releasing outfits to dress your existing kumyas in like they did with the wizard of oz lion

>>10473122

I want more usakumyas too. Bears are okay but bunny bears are based

Let’s play a game of “would you rather”!! I’ll start
>would you rather color balance but the shades/undertones are off or go safe and do a washed out look?

I’d rather try to color match personally

>>10473322
what do you mean by washed out look? is this the "white blouses are for noobs" thing again?

Anyone tried konmari method for de cluttering lolita?

Lolitabutiken is closing down today, the last items are on sale here: https://lolitabutiken.se/index.php/outlet?___store=english&___from_store=swe

Their in house brand Ergi by Piratessan (most known for their fur bear/bunny hats) is rebranding to Dejmo with new website here: https://dejmo.com/

Most items seams to be the same as was previously available, with this new(?) tartan dress that I don't recognise from before.

>>10471594
Because of Nana manga and film where Nana wears it when she first met Ren.
And everyone keeps hoping that the manga will hurry up and be finished.

>>10473383
It was useless. konmari is a bad way to declutter when you are generally passionate about a fashion (if everything associated with lolita brings joy) and also need outfits to match in a certain way (unhelpful if the 'workhouse' parts of your wardrobe don't bring joy).

>>10473383
I tried, but everything lolita related brings me joy. I would‘ve kept dresses that don’t properly fit me, just because the pretty design brings me joy.

Has anyone ever modeled for a lolita event? Domus Reginae is looking for models, and I'm wondering if it's worth the time and effort to apply. The models don't get any compensation from what I understood so it'd only be for the experience and chance to wear brand you don't own I guess?

>>10473383
This didn’t work for me, but I’ll share what did. Take EVERY SINGLE ITEM of your wardrobe out, from JSKs to socks, and see if you can use it in 5 different coords (though this number might vary depending on the size of your wardrobe). If you can’t, it goes on the non-staple pile. Now go through the non-staple pile and pick 5 (again might vary depending on wardrobe size and how much you want to clear out) single items (you will probably find that these are extravagant OPs, or headbows that only really match one dress, etc.). Anything now leftover needs to go. And it’ll hurt. But this is what worked for me and apparently a few people in our comm!

>>10473403
I've only modeled once but a few of my friends have done it at events I attended. It hugely depends on how the schedule is organised. I didn't feel like I missed out on anything important during the tea party when I did & it didn't really have a massive impact on my day so I enjoyed the experience overall. However a friend who modeled during a different event had to be at the venue early in the morning for the rehearsal + makeup, in retrospect I was glad I didn't bother applying.
There's (usually) no way of knowing who you'll actually model for, obviously if it just ends up being a small indie brand it might not be quite as exciting as you imagine it to be.

>>10473383
I go by "do I like wearing this? is it comfy?" for wearables and "does it bring me joy" with novelties.

>>10473398
You're just a hoarder at that point

>>10473428
All fatties and skellies are hoarders desu

>>10473428
I cleaned out properly in the end, but Konmari didn’t help me.

>>10473403
If you really like the brand and don't mind doing the work for free, go for it.

Usually volunteer modeling for lolita brands is spending 5+ hours not being allowed to eat in a room fighting for a MUA to do your makeup. They WILL run out of time to do everyone's makeup/get everyone ready, the fashion show WILL run late, no exceptions

>>10473567
This has been my experience as well. One time I got a free shirt from h naoto but they stopped doing that.

>>10473438
konmari is trash anyway. the book is super stupid.

>>10473621
What's wrong with it?
The main problem imo is dumb people have started using "konmari" as a synonym for "spring cleaning" and don't actually follow the book or guidelines at all

>>10473626
the book and guidelines are shit. she sounds like an idiot talking about only keeping things that spark joy but then gives dumb excuses for why you need necessities like cleaning stuff. the entire book and concept is just autistic japanese values and it inadvertently (or purposely) shames people for enjoying owning things. it caught on because mysterious zen japanese shit, but it just highlights some of the bad aspects of japanese culture that stifle individuality
this is why i can't understand why lolitas would want to adhere to it, lolita is about doing things for yourself despite society shaming you for being decadent. plus, it's much more satisfying to figure out how to organize a ton of stuff and helps you in the long run. for hoarders maybe it helps? but for everyone else it's just unnecessary. and despite it seeming very minimalistic it's extremely consumerist and environmentally unfriendly (especially with how she just tells people to throw out everything instead of donating it).

>>10473634
>t. triggered western consoomer

>>10473702
not at all. being a consumer is different than having many possessions.

>>10473711
It's a good thing not everyone feels the need to own a crapton of useless things like you do.

>>10473717
i don't think you get it. being a consumer owned by capitalism isn't just about how much you own, it's about the frequency of purchase. especially in japan, where everyone is expected to fit in and be little worker bees with a small, impersonal personal life, konmari is just a way to assimilate while also adhering to japan's cultural autism. it's basically "what not to wear", in that you're meant to give up your personality. i am surprised lolitas disagree or even attempt to do konmari in the first place since lolita revolves around doing things in excess and being impractical.

>>10473711
There's no difference. Being a consoomer indicates you value meaningless over-indulgence which is what you have describes.

>>10473634
Every Japanese place I’ve seen has been a hoarder paradise

>>10473751
Konmari says literally nothing about what to wear...

>>10473567
Everything in this post plus you'll miss out on 90% of whatever else is happening at the event that day. The AP SF tea parties were especially bad because you have to arrive in lolita, change into whatever you're wearing for the fashion show, change back to your outfit then go back to your table to a room temperature meal. You pay full price for a tea party ticket to enjoy maybe 20 minutes of the actual event

>>10473403
As a model you generally miss like the opportunity to buy stuff as soon as the venue opens, as well as like opening ceremony/stuff that occurs before the Fashion show. You also have to be there early for rehearsals and such. (Sometimes those are already on the friday before the event.)
If you don’t really care about that kind of stuff, modeling is a fun way to fill the time, especially when you go to an event alone. You do always have to be prepared that the chance is bigger that you end up modeling for an Indie-brand and not the main (Japanese) brand, the chance of not modeling at all is also bigger than the chance you have on modeling for the main brand.

>>10473862
“What not to wear” was a tv show where the hosts made random people throw out all their clothes and dress in the same boring Anne Taylor pencil skirts and blazers that they wore. They even had a lolita on there once.

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