/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

VM - Horse Riding Check Series
Colours:
>Stripe grey (ライトグレー)
>Brown (ブラウン)
>Dark grey (ダークグレー)

Outer material: 100% polyester
Lining: 100% polyester
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Horse Riding Check OP (Horse riding チェックドレス)
>Price: 39,600 yen (incl. tax)

Length: 109 cm
Bodice length: 37 cm
Shoulder width: 36 cm
Sleeve length: 62 cm
Cuffs: 20 cm
Bust: 93 cm
Waist: 73 cm

>http://www.victorianmaiden.jp/SHOP/203MOP19.html
Note: There are seam pockets on both sides.
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Horse Riding Check Jacket (Horse riding チェックジャケット)
>Price: 38,500 yen (tax incl.)

Length: 60 cm
Shoulder width: 37 cm
Sleeve length: 60 cm
Cuffs: 26 cm
Bust: 94 cm
Waist: 76 cm (adjustable with back belt)

>http://www.victorianmaiden.jp/SHOP/203MJK03.html
Note: There are pockets.
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Horse Riding Check Skirt (Horse riding チェックスカート)
>Price: 30,800 yen (tax incl.)
>Reservation price:

Length: 83 cm
High waist: 73 cm
Waist: 71 cm

>http://www.victorianmaiden.jp/SHOP/203MSK09.html
Note: Waist size can be adjusted using the corset lacing.
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Striped Ruffle Blouse (ストライプフリルブラウス)
>Price: 19,800 yen (tax incl.)

Colours:
> Ivory (アイボリー)
> Light grey (ライトグレー)
> Navy (ネイビー)

Length: 56 cm
Shoulder width: 35.5 cm
Sleeve length: 62 cm
Cuffs: 20 cm
Bust: 91 cm
Waist: 79 cm

Material: 98% polyester, 2% rayon

>http://www.victorianmaiden.jp/SHOP/203MOP04.html
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Horse Riding Check Hat (Horse riding チェックハット)
>Price: 14,300 yen (tax incl.)

Head circumference: 44.5 cm
Brim: 6 cm
Height: 5.5 cm

>http://www.victorianmaiden.jp/SHOP/203VMH03.html
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>>10448139
Reservation period: 29th July, 10:00 JST to 7th August 23:59 (it's up!)
A copy of VM's 2020A/W Collection Book will be included when at least one item from the series is reserved.
There is a 20% discount if two or more items from the series are reserved.

>>10448139
>>10448140
Thanks for the new thread!

When I saw the teaser I was sure I was going to buy, but now that the pictures are up I’m not so sure.

I’m very interested in this new model though, she looks very... high fashion

>>10448158
Same. I was low-key hoping that this release would be a wool-blend for A/W. But looking at pictures now the OP and jacket are weirdly boxy on the model.

>>10448185
Agreed, it looked I suppose daintier in the teaser pic. Maybe a high collar was too much, the OP really overpowers the models.
The jacket would be nicer as well if it wasn’t so weirdly cut and long.

A nice versatile blouse though, if I didn’t have so much in japan post purgatory already I’d get one

>>10448139
I love it, specially the skirt!
Hope I get a job in time to order one of these.

>>10448139
It looks nice on the mannequins but not the models. Considering I'm larger than the models this will probably look like shit on me.

Disneyland Shanghai is releasing Duffy lolita dresses. I'm seriously jealous of how mainstream lolita is in China.

>>10448314

>>10448139

This is the first one I'm skipping in a while. I have been ridiculously loyal to them but this time I'm not feeling the poly very much. It's a pity because I really love the buttons on the skirt! I'm really hoping they release that one dress Misako was wearing soon.

>>10448318
Same! I was surprised they didn’t release this one first because it’s more Spring Summer than Autumn Winter.

I’m low key glad I don’t like the check release because I’ll save money for this one

>>10448314
I would be happy if we would just get the Duffy and friends mascots. I looked everywhere for one of them for a friend, couldn't find it and just ended up wanting one too

>>10448158
the bangs... no

>>10448139
The cut of the skirt is beautiful, but I’m really not liking the fabric, even though it’s been inspired by tweed riding habits. A version in black would look nice probably. I agree though there is something off about the cut of the OP especially, it’s just not flattering at all on the model. I’d say the waist looks too high on her, the bodice too short, resulting in the boxiness. I’ve no issues with the length on the jacket though.

Wtf...?

This is so weird. Before the Lor vid/shoutout no one cares about Elegy being PoC owned, it was just decdnt pieces, and now this white person is trying to advertise the owner's race to help sell their item. Feels icky to me as a black person and irrelevant to the sale of the item.

>>10448478
Ok whatever but did you see this bitch’s crazy prices? I wish I had the balls to call her out in the comments.

>>10448485
>Flaunting maker's race so she can charge twice what the maker is charging
That's pretty fucking gross.

>>10448485
the worst part is people are actually buying it

>>10448485
I can’t believe some idiot actually paid that much for it.

>>10448485
I may or may not have sent that screenshot to elegy's email...

>>10448504
Okay? I think it’s a shitty thing to do too but what are they supposed to do about it? Reselling for a higher price is not illegal.

>>10448478
>>10448485
I was laughing at the fact she had the headdress tagged as plus and tall Lolita friendly. Just because it fits on your head and fat people can wear it, doesn’t make it “plus size friendly”

>>10448508
I’ve seen listings that check every one of the sizing notes and I wonder if people even know what they mean.

>>10448507
I feel like I would want to know if people were reselling something I had made to be more expensive than it originally was.
I know she's not claiming she made it, but this girl is taking advantage of the fact that Elegy put their shop on hiatus.
An increase of $25 on an indie brand is a lot especially if you're not going to include shipping.

>>10448504
So you can send an email to the company but you can’t even comment on the listing? Pusys

>>10448524
Thought about it but I’m not gonna go white knighting a brand I’ve never bought or worn. Besides, I can’t get banned from LM. Need my burando...

>>10448478
This is so gross, especially because she’s trying to get in on the “support poc business” drive, but she’s selling secondhand so nobody who buys from her is supporting the brand. And the prices! This is the shadiest behaviour

>>10448508

It's like those memes about an usakumya being tagged plus friendly. No shit lol it doesn't need to fit on your body. It's basically tag spamming when people do it for items like that.

But yeah I think it's good someone sent it to her. People complain about pricey indie but she is great from my communication with her and I love some of her simpler pieces and headwear; this performative social justice bullshit while directly making a profit off of the hard work of a black creator whose race they're using to help scalp their items is just disgusting.

I bet she was one of those girls who posted "BLM silence is violence" for two weeks and then stopped caring when she couldn't get likes for it anymore. Also no one "accidentally" buys two pieces from a shop like that? Maybe I'd believe it from a brand release if you did lottery for multiple locations or during a bloodbath had two computers in case your cart got booted but I highly doubt they bought two on accident.

Either way this person is blacklisted from my buy or sell list permanently now. I would comment on LM but don't want to get reposted here cause anytime listing comments are interesting or call a seller out they get posted to cgl

>>10448485
here you go, coward. it's just a LM listing.

>>10448570
she also PMed me. I told her that her overpaying for something doesn't mean it's worth that much.

>>10448571
Why do people think just because they overpaid everyone else will too? Just because you’re a dumbass doesn’t mean we all are.

>>10448571

This is clearly a lie she made up to seem pitiable and excuse her shit behavior

>>10448570

I moreso wish the person commenting mentioned that she's using the fact that the creator is black as a marketing tool despite the fact she is white.

>>10448485
This chick is a fucking nut job, I’m not surprised at all. I wouldn’t recommend buying or selling with her- she’ll blow up your inbox every 10 minutes with messages that are barely intelligible because of how bad she writes.

>>10448136
As someone who used to ride I really really like the riding habit influenced feel of this. Anyone know any other pieces with equestrian influences?

>>10448578
but they do >>10448496
so it is worth that much.

>>10448552
>no one "accidentally" buys two pieces
I've actually done that with custom d&d minis since it takes a while to manufacture them. Ordered a mini, forgot, and ordered it again.

advertising it as poc is kind of cringe though

>>10448578
I don't know this person so don't think I'm trying to WK her, but people are allowed to list their stuff for however much they want. If it's really that overpriced they'll learn that they have to discount it in order to sell. I don't get why you all get so mad about it lmao just move on.

>>10448608

The reason I even posted her wasn't the price, it was her cringe decision to advertise the brand being black woman owned as a way to sell her piece.

Just feels like slimy superficial wokeness as a means to an end.

>>10448580
fair, I should've because it is gross but overall I'm more annoyed long term about people selling shit for more than they bought it for

>>10448621
People being obsessed with high resale value and trying to profit as much as they can off selling old pieces is killing the secondhand market and emboldening scalpers.

But I guess that's how things are and we should all just get used to it.

I just got my Meta GW lucky pack in the mail.
In addition to My Dear Friends bustle dress and a bunch of accessories, they also put in the dreamy egg jsk lucky pack.
Meta going full Xzibit
for 20,000 yen ( I used account points) i got
2 dresses
1 KC
1 pair of hair clips
4 pairs of socks
1 jacket/blazer
Meta being based as always

>>10448602
That's a newbie mistake. Not how much it's actually worth. They are just taking advantage of people's naivety.

>>10448629
That's such a great deal, wow. I feel like their lucky packs tend to go under the radar.

>>10448552
>Also no one "accidentally" buys two pieces from a shop like that?
You haven't seen my drunk AliExpress purchases, I've bought so so many duplicates

>>10448645
As long as the "meta bad" memes prevail I think that it will continue to do so.
I did the math and it was about 80,000 yen worth of stuff in the bag?
The my dear friends dress and matching socks are probably the stuff i am most hype about. That alone was worth the original cost of the pack.

>>10448552
you know most people saying they accidentally bought duplicates probably just asked multiple SS for the item. a lot of us use multiple SS to increase our chances of getting the release and while most of the time only one gets it sometimes more than one do.

>>10448675

Elegy doesn't need an SS to buy from though, and neither do most western indie. My point was buying from western indie it makes no sense to accidentally buy or request two from SS or anything. Plus for one item she says she got two by mistake but also suddenly also is selling the other from the same brand in new condition sold to her for her roommate to buy food?

She is clearly pulling it out of her ass. Like I said buying multiples from brand in a bloodbath or something makes sense and so does requesting multiples from SS but in her case she is just being shady all around.

>>10448314
>>10448315
I don't care much for Duffy, but I hope they'll release some dresses with actual Disney characters some time. These designs are cute.

>>10448315
This dress has been around for months

>>10448629
I'm looking forward to mine being free from shipping hell. "Meta bad" memes just means less bloodbaths for the rest of us

>>10448902
Post what you got when you get it! I wanna see how it compares.

Anyone assign certain scents to your coords? Like strawberry for strawberry prints, chocolate for chocolate prints? Am I autistic for wanting to do this?

>>10448986
Aw that actually sounds really cute.

>>10448992
I've been going through Black Phoniex Alchemy Lab and while browsing, I started thinking of which scents would go with which of my dresses. Got a strawberry+cherry blossom print coming in and was wondering what that would smell like.

>>10448986
Yeah, for me it's just one scent though. Bath and Body Works Pink Chiffon.

>>10448986

I wear mostly sweet lolita but I always wear vanilla scented perfume. Bath & Body Works Vanilla Bean Noelle. The scent varies every year these days but for first batch I tried years ago, it smelled like cookies and people literally thought I'd brought sweets with me when I'd walk into a room. I also sometimes mix my own scents with strawberry and vanilla fragrance in the summer when I want to smell more fruity.

>>10449015
Sounds delicious. I think it pairs well with sweet coords
>>10449002
I haven't tried that one but now I'll have to check it out. Having a signature scent sounds cool too.

>>10448986
Based, I have a lot of food/sweet themed perfumes and I always pair them with my looks even when they're not lolita. Really adds that extra spark. I think the most expensive perfume I own is Hypnotic Poison by Dior, it's sweet vanilla heaven. I even have a perfume that smells of jellybeans, but I'm not really fond of the smell of jellybeans so I never wear it. Strangely I don't have a strawberry scented perfume despite most of my items being strawberry themed, I just think strawberry perfumes are hard to find in general.

>>10448986
I like to use vanilla for my classical coords and a fresher floral for my goth ones. Maybe I should use the floral one with classical because of all the floral print, but I just think classical is very sweet vanilla compared to my usual style if that makes any sense.

>>10448994
I love Black Pheonix Alchemy Lab! Their themes make my little goth heart so happy :) I immediately think of Dorian (unisex vanilla and tea scent) as a very fitting scent for lolita.
There's also one called Rose Cross, which I haven't tried, but sounds like it should go with MMM

Has lacemarket been slow for anyone else lately? The pictures sometimes don’t load. This has been happening to me for several days tested on two different connections..

secrets

>>10449404
I’ve had trouble today, when I open a listing I get “We’re sorry, but something went wrong”

>>10449404
Yeah, can't open listings and the stuff I'm selling has been on 0 views despite people apparently adding them to their watchlist.

lace market down?

>>10449169
That's funny. I wear a heavy, musky gourmand like Angel, Alien, Euphoria, or Jo Malone oud with goth, and light florals or aquatic with classic and sweet. I really need more aquatic smells, I used up all I had and it sucks wearing gourmands in summer

>>10449496
yep seems like it
wonder what it is now

For everyone that's still spending way too much time at home... Are you doing anything to tweak or improve your Lolita wardrobe now that you have the time to invest in "silly things" ? I'm converting a bodyline jsk into an apron.

>>10449556
I’m just buying too much stuff. What you’re suggesting sounds great though, I really should get crafty now that I’m home all day. Any anons have ideas for fun projects or things to do?

>>10449569

I've been buying cheap OnS books here and there when I find them and making it a goal to make one of everything I like in the book so I can test all the patterns I want out and resize them to fit my bust. Also crafting little rings and other small accessories has been fun.

>>10449569
I made a skirt for the first time out of an old dress I kept from junior high school solely for the print.

It sucked. But it was still a good learning experience. It's wearable if I cover the waist with a belt.

>>10449503
Is there any way to report errors on the site to let them know there’s an issue? I have auctions ending that people are getting cheated out of bidding on and that doesn’t make me happy.

>>10449598
Never mind, it appears to be back,

Anyone have Meta’s Angelic Heaven Clerical JSK?
I’ve gotten interested in it but the bust measurements are posted as 88cm, but it looks like there’s some shirring though I can’t tell if it’ll be enough for my 95cm bust to squeeze in.
Thanks for any help

>>10449556
I'm doing a lot of sewing, but it's just been main pieces when I really need to make more blouses

What's the best alternative to LM for selling? I don't like a lot of things about it

>>10449556
I’m sewing a lot. Honestly some of the stuff I might end up giving away or selling at a swap meet, whenever it’s safe to do those again, because not everything I made fits my wardrobe or style, but it sure has been fun experimenting with various designs and patterns. I’m not a sweet, but I really enjoy sewing sweet pieces. Maybe I’m weird. Is anyone else like that?

>>10449670
I really don't think there is one, unfortunately. I've heard people use Facebook groups but they have their downsides as well.

Did anyone see that after the Moitie tablier debacle, Baroque is now looking for reviewers to proof that their quality isn't that bad?

If only they put that energy into better quality checks instead.

>>10449636

Can totally relate; I always make main pieces and accessories when I know I need to be sewing blouses more than anything because it's hard to find ones for my bust in my style.

I'll literally buy fabric specifically for blouses but for some reason never get around to it and just rewear my brand blouses or cutsews.

>>10449728
What was wrong with the tabliers? Mine seemed fine, but maybe I got lucky. I also have one of their winter coats and it's great.

>>10449768
Some came with defects like small holes, it’s on rc if you want more info and pics

It looks like a minority because they sold very well and I only have seen a few people say something but it’s still annoying.

>>10449728
It is sad they have to do this. I have dresses from their earlier releases and there quality is normally good.

any pretty floor-length white dresses/jsks? you can probably guess why :3

>>10449876
Not quite floor-length, but BABY has released some long OTT white pieces!

You've heard of matching colors.
You've heard of matching laces.
Now it's time for matching ribbon widths

>>10449876
Henrietta has a lot like that

>>10449728
> Baroque is now looking for reviewers to proof that their quality isn't that bad
I always thought that their quality was great, but I haven't shopped there in a few years. Why are they connected with Moitie?

>>10450127

I think it was those aprons, right?

>>10450127
They just did a collab item, that’s all.

>>10450127
Theyre actually infamous in the Korean community for having terrible quality, a lot of them avoid buying from her. If you read the Rufflechat thread you can see that there are a bunch of issues like holes in the tabliers, different lengths and one girl even got one with laces of different colors.
It's a huge mess.
The owner commented but she only have an excuse about how QC was so hard, without even trying to make amends.

>>10450194
it's always korean brands that are like this.

>>10448478
>PoC owned
Girl we are in a Japanese fashion community, it’s all PoC owned

>>10450196
Don't drag Lief down with Baroque, lief has always been really quick to address any issues I've had with their items.

>>10450216
Japanese in Japan aren't really considered PoC though, they're only PoC in the context of America.

>>10450216
sjws don't consider east asians to be poc, because east asians are successful and do well for themselves

>>10448986
Yes! But I sorta do it by style. Rose Mallow Cream by Solstice Scents for hime, Mina Harker by Sixteen92 for classic, Sea of Grey by SS for sailor, Winternignts by Arcana Wildcraft for Christmas coords (basically all of December is Christmas coords lol)

>>10449728
I have a different lace tablier from them and it’s lovely. What happened with this release?

>>10450221
They do when it’s convenient. See >>10450218

>>10450226
>>10450194 this

>>10450228
I don't think you understand what I meant. Obviously Japanese in Japan aren't PoC since they're the majority race. It's not a hard concept.

>>10450284
This is a lacemarket listing by a white girl, friend.

>>10450217
didn't say all korean brands were. but the brands that pull this shit are almost always korean.

>>10450284

They are still PoC, AKA non white. They're just the majority in their own country.

>>10450307
shhh don't remind them that poc just lumps together everything other than white and is a shitty, almost racist term when not applied to minorities.

>>10448139
>100% polyester
Genuinely don't get this tb h, why not just use wool or at least a wool blend?

>>10448139
>Stripe grey (ライトグレー)
It’s light grey you moron

>>10450394
congrats on being the bigger weeb

>>10450296
I'm not referring to person doing the listing? My post was about how weird it is to refer to Japanese brands as PoC owned.
>>10450307
That's my point, Japanese don't consider themselves as PoC because they're not viewing themselves in relation to white people.
>>10450309
Uh I agree with you completely anon, sorry if it didn't come across too well.

Why is lacemarket so fucking slow

>>10450433

Not as weird as 2019 (before BLM) when people were all like "support PoC and women owned indie uwu!" and were recommending shops almost all solely owned by white women.

>>10449728
>>10449769

To be honest though, it must suck to be the person that gets stiffed with the one with small holes and defects.

I kind of agree with the person saying they should just do better quality control before sending items out, these things aren't cheap enough that I'd accept it as some kind of gacha game with a "minority" chance of getting a "minorly defective" item.

Anybody know how to get in contact with the Kei / Vintage market mods? Are they not the same as the EGL Circlly mods??

>>10450493

If course in jfashion brands/indie in the west most will be women owned. That's a dumb thing to call for in a female dominant community. The PoC thing I guess is fine since indie implies non Japanese and therefore people who are likely the minority in their country if it's western brand. I generally just think we should support GOOD brands and brands should do their best to support each other on quality and when they can, ethics. Elegy is great, not because she is PoC but because she has nice products people like. Puvithel is PoC and her shit sucks ass.

>>10450493

BLM was around and a thing long before 2019, friendo.

>>10450389
Polyester is cheap, real wool is expensive.

>>10450520

It's deliberately daft to argue in 2019 it was anywhere near what it is trending now, and that no one gave a shit about poc except when it's for clout.

>>10450552

It is trending more because white people finally found out they can get clout in literally almost any non boomer social circle for it but people still cared despite not knowing about or publicly supporting BLM.

Anyway BLM has little to do with the support PoC or women owned business thing. For women anyway they whole "girls supporting girls" thing was around and it's own thing

>>10450556
No, they didn't. I didn't see any of these poc owned shops recced until now.

>>10450538
It's not THAT much more expensive. The OP and jacket are already about $400, Sparks will sell you a wool blend tweed jacket for like £70. Hell, ASOS sells Harris tweed stuff for £40-£100, the design is shit obviously but it's pure new wool, which is the point.

>>10450572

Not neccesarily these particular shops but old where you've been if you haven't seen support women business and support small business stuff before 2020 unless you exclusively buy fast fashion new or don't use social media much?

>>10450520
no one cared about it back then except black people tho. huge difference now

>>10450603
are you from outside of the US or something? this isn't true at all. it's been a big thing for black and white people since about 2014 when recording and posting police brutality became huge.

>>10450389
Possibly couldn’t trust people to launder a 100% wool dress correctly (polyester in general seems popular in Japan because it’s low maintenance).

>>10450605
i'm in the us and no, it was never huge like this. it blew up to crazy proportions just this year where white people had to say something about it publicly or were labeled as racists for not doing so. nobody was making lists of poc lolita shops or whatever before, there was no blackout day of silence across groups or any of that shit before. and let's be real, the only reason it blew up this year is because people were bored on quarantine and just wanted something to do

>>10450608
I’m from the EU and BLM was big everywhere in 2014 and 15 but I agree it set the groundwork for a lot of what we’re seeing now. If 2014 never happened 2020 would have had a lot more work to get the attention we see now. I understand if you weren’t particularly interested at the time, but a lot of what we’re seeing this year is exactly what happened 5 years ago, including promoting black business.

However the social media scene then and now can’t be compared so we are definitely seeing more online engagement. Things like blackouts aren’t new, but now it’s everyone doing it because the internet has become more diffuse

>>10450608
>white people had to say something about it publicly or were labeled as racists for not doing so

And don’t forget that when white people do say something about it over social media, black people call it performative and that they don’t really care about them. I’m glad I’m a nobody lolita because I would hate being cancelled over not bowing down over male criminals getting killed by asshole cops

>>10450590

You're missing the point so instead of repeating myself as nauseum just Sageeread what I said before.

>>10450590

If you don't see the irony of people saying "support poc" then providing lists of nearly all white small businesses idk what to tell you.

>>10450615

I'm not saying it's not ironic, I was never saying that. If anything I was pointing out the fact that the "support women businesses" thing is redundant because most jfashion businesses are women owned.

Of course using white shops to promote supporting PoC is dumb and ironic. I was never arguing against that.

>>10450587
You're confusing acrylic for wool. If you're buying it cheap, then it's acrylic

>>10450668
New releases available at AtePi's webshop.

I'm pleasantly surprised by physical flop here. The skirt and JSK are really gorgeous as well.

>>10450612
Most people are venting their frustration, not cancelling. But you're not here for genuine dialogue anyway.

>>10450395
Congrats on being a monolingual loser

>>10450611
I’m from the EU too and I think it depends on the country. The only reason I knew anything about BLM back then was because I was active on tumblr. I never saw anything about it outside of online social justice spaces and practically no one I talked to outside of those spaces had even heard about it. The notion that people outside of the US should speak up or be deemed racist is definitely a new one.

>>10450979
I think it definitely depends on the country, but I’m surprised US anon didn’t recall how big BLM was at the time.

I haven’t seen anyone in my country accused of being racist for not posting about it or whatever (i myself haven’t posted anything) but it’s in the public mind and people talk about it. I think social media these days is complicated, because if someone says it’s racist not to post anything (as an example), it doesn’t mean anything and nothing happens. a lot if people won’t think so but they won’t be the ones you see. I hope that makes sense.
It’s my general complaint about the internet these days, it’s not as serious as it feels

Has anyone had any luck buying from indie jp hat designers? They always release short notice and sell out so quickly I can never get an ss to grab one.

>>10450991
Sometimes the shop that shares AP USA's storefront, Harajuku Hearts, carries Coco & Ami hats. Right now there's only one, but sometimes I notice they get in a pile and it's no consistent with what's "in season", meaning sometimes they get a bunch of old stock and sometimes they'll get upcoming stuff slightly early. They also carry Enchantlic Enchantilly Berets sometimes, again I think there's like one right now.

>>10450991

Atelier Pierrot always seems well-stocked, including Coco & Ami, Morun x Muuna Stoik, and a couple of other indie brands (they do also carry Violet Fane and Lief so it's up to you to check the background of the brand you're purchasing if you pretty strictly only want Japanese indie, though).

I guess if there's a specific sought-after brand you're after, some of them can sell pretty fast. I've never been able to buy Caramel Ribbon jewellery either, always wake up to an announcement some time in the night and everything already sold out.

Does anyone else have a recent Yamato order that when you click the "details" button you get "No Record Found"?
This is the 6th time I've gotten something through them and I haven't had this error previously?
Last update was that it was it cleared customs on August 4th at 10:12 PM Japan time
Maybe this is normal and I'm just especially impatient? But given the time lines of my other shipments, this seems unlikely?

>>10451006
I'm getting this too, but it's my first time using them. I assumed since it says to use the Details button for international orders yet that it just hadn't made it fully into the country yet. Like customs has one last slap on the ass to give before it giddyups out into freedom sunshine. I'm a bit sleep deprived

>>10451017
Nah, usually it tells you the incoming scan from Tokyo and the outgoing scan from Narita.
It looks like the tokyo scan got missed or fucked up, its working now so it just have th departing Narita scan.
It should land in anchorage in about 9 hours or so.

>>10451006
I had a package like this for 2 days and today it’s finally showing the details so it probably was a system error.

>>10451021
I see. Mine has updated as well. Jinx! Mine is a few pairs of socks from WW. I thought they would fit the smaller package since they're only socks, but I got charged for the medium size anyway.

>>10451023
>>10451026
>>10451017
OP on the question, but mine landed in the US about an hour and a half ago.
Yessssssss

>>10450054
PLEASE

>>10451213
Why does no one else care about matching metals it seems??? How are there so many heathens walking around with silver necklaces and brass buttons

>>10451218
I care about that. I thought everyone did?

>>10451218
I care in theory, but I don't care too much to actually implement it. I always wear a silver necklace of sentimental value under everything I wear (it's rarely visible in lolita) but I hate other, heavier jewellery with a passion. So I guess I get round it by rarely wearing jewellery aside from to events.

>>10451006
I wish I asked this question here now, instead of bothering my SS lol.

I had the same thing happen. It looks like it was some kind of weird delay or system error. In the past, as soon as the "Details" button appeared, I'd get the local tracking number (UPS for me), and I've had at least 10 or so packages with Yamato now.

>August 4th at 10:12 PM Japan time
My package had this same customs scan and the Details page is finally working as of today. Bless it, because I want my Toy Doll Box MTO.

I wish likes on Lacemarket were public. I don’t care about seeing specific usernames, but it would be nice to know how many other people are interested in an item.

>>10451304

The seller can see. Why does it matter who is interested though? So you know if you have competition? Or just in case you want to sell later?

>>10451218
Because it’s stupid, you aren’t going to be able to match metals if you actually wore the clothes. No one has the time to find good accessories in the right colour and the right metal.

>>10451310

If you're into sugary sweet metals will rarely be all that visible except maybe bracelet chains, some BB&B stuff, and shoe buckles anyway right?

>>10451218
Cry more. Brands mix metals all the time, like in pic related.

Which brands are male owned? Someone in another thread mentioned Putumayo is male owned and that he says he likes to make the dresses short so that women can show off their ~sexy legs~. I don't want to support gross scrote brands.

>>10451320
1/10

>>10451218
Because that as a rule is obsolete and for people a century ago who didn't know how to match stuff. It's in the same group as not wearing different prints. Mixing metals has always been around.

>>10451320
Putumayo is dead anyways
Better stop buying Moitie

>>10451346
Mana is a gay af crossdresser, not a pervert

>>10451308
nayrt, but if I know a bunch of people are looking at it, I'm more likely to bite the bullet and purchase. on the other hand, if it's not too popular, I might message the seller and ask for a deal

>>10451308
Ayrt and yeah, it’s this >>10451349

>>10451348
>gay
uuuh...

>>10451362
What straight men enjoy dressing up as women?

>>10451383
he has a wife, you know

Can we just discuss for a moment how annoying Tyler's character voice has become over time?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hNMfgzFdF0 first episode

>>10451419
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCOQbV-WcwA recent video

>>10451422
I find it more annoying that she constantly talks about what an AP whore she is in a video that’s supposedly about a BABY dress. We get it.

>>10451407
Really? I thought that was just a rumor.

>>10451320
>Someone in another thread mentioned Putumayo is male owned and that he says he likes to make the dresses short so that women can show off their ~sexy legs~

I heard Mana bought 50 dicks off eBay and sucked them all, too

>>10451407
Never seen any proof of this.

>>10451407
that wouldn't negate him being gay. east asia is very unfriendly to lgbt folks, mana's generation especially, so many get married just to try hiding their gayness from family.

>>10451348
>>10451383

When you're a vkei star and already putting a shitton of makeup on. Probably not a very far jump to try and be a pretty doll to attract some attention for your band (hey, it's not stupid if it works)

>>10451429
Where's your proof of him being gay though?

>>10451433
where's your proof that he's not...

>>10451419
She has always been annoying

>>10451435
What kind of response is that? I'm just asking a question. Don't expect anyone to believe your tinfoil if you don't give any reason as to why.

Someone's dolly heart OP got dinged pretty badly when they wore it with the present heart pochette.

Proving again that AP's polyester material is absolutely cursed.

>>10451444
This was already discussed in the AP thread, no need to bring it up again

>>10451218

People have been mixing metals since at least the Georgian era. It's not new, it's not gauche, it's not an issue.

>>10451348
Most of vkei crossdressers are very much straight actually.

>>10451218
I got the Neon Star Diner full set. The blouson has silver-toned metal and the jewelry is gold-toned. It doesn't matter.

>>10451445
Didn't see it, my bad then.

>>10451445
>>10451459
This is why I think splitting AP off into a separate thread was stupid. People keep posting the same things to the general.

goddamn haven't been able to make a single order on cc for a week now, it's never been this bad

>>10451218

Y'know, I did actually care when I started, but at some point when I started making coords I realised it doesn't actually make much difference. It's just way less important than making sure your jewellery goes well with your dress in the first place.

>>10451462
Agreed...The site is horrible now. I'm left to think multiple people are botting. Load times were 3+ minutes for me and the pages crashed. Combine that with CC listing images under the wrong price/name/description and it was a complete cluster fuck.

It's not like I even debate what to buy. I literally load the page, click, and buy and I still fail 50% of the time. I don't read the condition or look at the price. This is completely new. In April I was able to buy two relatively popular AP JSKs one right after the other with no issues, each for less than $100.

>>10451462
The secondhand market is literally killing lolita for me. It's not about having the money anymore, it's about being impossibly fast and still missing every time.

>>10451465
I remember when having emails alerts set on Lacemarket actually meant something because you’d see them a few hours after posting and the dress was still there. Now everything good gets bought in seconds. You basically have to stalk the website like a crazy person to have any hope.

>>10451467
It's the same thing on fril/mercari/cc/ww. There's not a lot of "safe havens" left and while I still love what I own, it's all making me stupidly depressed and I honestly feel like quitting. But I want to keep trying. It just hurts every time. I have money, sitting, and waiting, and I can't use any of it even when I'm going the extra mile to be on top of secondhand sites.

I'm glad I started buying things 5 years ago because if not, my current AP sweet wardrobe would be almost impossible to build now, and I'm not even trying to exaggerate.

>>10451452
Proof?

>>10451473
Japanese men aren’t pussies

>>10451469
It’s when you see all of the new releases for certain brands on CC vanish within the first minute or two that it’s not great. Even when you click refresh on the specific brand’s page listing at the moment the update goes live and still miss stuff...

>>10451473
Most crossdressing vkei artists have been in the industry for decades so there’s plenty of rumors going around about types of women they like, hook up stories with fans etc. Sure, this is not straight up evidence, but there’s absolutely zero rumors about these guys being gay and that’s saying a lot.

>>10451348
Fuck off back to tumblr, fujoshit

>>10451462
Has anyone been having issues with CC not sending emails properly? I bought something a week ago, and while I accidentally mistyped my email address, I let them know immediately and they updated my email. Problem is I’ve still not received a second confirmation email/ despatch notice. A couple of months ago I’d placed an order and they didn’t send me a tracking number until I requested it. Sod’s law as well that that item is now lost in transit somewhere with the tracking not having updated in over a month. That said that is a Japan Post issue.

>>10451473
Androgyny is actually an attractive feature to Japanese. They think men with beards and 'male' features are gay, so their POV is quite the opposite to western standards.

>>10451383
The best kind.

>>10451504
>absolutely zero rumors about these guys being gay
People have speculated on Mana being gay for at least two decades now.

>>10451463
It’s really not that hard. It takes two seconds to check the color of an item before buying it or putting it on. Honestly, y’all will have a meltdown if something is one shade of pink too dark but are for some reason incapable of going “hey is that gold or silver?”

Metals are a color in a coord for me and I don’t want to incorporate random ones unless it’s intentional. Something like this >>10451317 is fine because it’s a design element but this >>10451455 seems lazy. It feels like AP releasing turquoise and brown jewelry to go with Milky Planet to me.

But looks like I’m alone

>>10451528
Fuck off back to tumblr, anti

>>10451671
Yeah, the western fanbase. Aka the people who know jack shit about the things that actually happen in the scene in Japan.

for those who post to IG and wear extremely varied substyles/fashions, how do you maintain balance and keep a "nice" looking feed?

>>10451537
this. the Japanese stereotype for gay men is to be super masculine because they like men. so like beard, into wrestling, bodybuilding, etc...

New amethyst colourway of Horoscope of Fate, available to purchase now (and is apparently of limited quantity)

>>10451473
There's literally forums where bangya discuss the dick sizes and sexual preferences of the bandomen they've fucked.

>>10451720
It’s a shame I hate every one of these cuts because the print in this color is cute

>>10451726
so the guys might be bi instead, so what? any man who likes dressing up as a woman enjoys getting dick up his ass, exclusively or not

>>10451734
Stop being fucking weird.

>>10451680
i agree desu. i think if you're wanting to mix silver and gold together in a coord, as long as it's got a nice balance of each, then it's fine and can look great! but if you have a single piece of silver jewelry and the rest is gold, it's a bit strange. not enough to ruin the entire outfit, but it's just a tiny detail that's noticeable to me.

>>10451734
you're a /pol/ scrote aren't you? Go away

>>10451787
no, i'm a radfem

How important is matching your bag to your coord for you? I often make an effort to match my main bag to my coord but carry a cloth tote bag if I have a lot of items that day.

What do you think about bags not matching the style of the coord?

>>10451931
I totally get needing to carry a bag that holds more, but it’s weird when they’re included in posted photos.

Thoughts?

>>10451946

If this is meant to be a comparison of then vs now, the Boz one at least is not a great comparison. Boz has barely changed at all, it’s kept extremely close to its roots, and is still rereleasing many of the same pieces.

>>10451946
All due respect this isn’t a good comparison. Twinkle Ornament and Maiden’s Tutu aren’t anything alike, and this trend is in other brands shown too. To have a good comparison you need to at least try and match prints with similar themes, otherwise what the fuck are we comparing? Apples and oranges?

>>10451946
Oh no. The top MmM jsk looks like a prom dress

>>10451946
Like everyone else said this is really stupid choices to compare. The AP meme image uses dresses with similar prints from new and old. Try again, Boz and J et J have both rereleased exact copies of old dresses. It's AP, IW, and BTSSB that have changed their silhouette a lot.

>>10451960
I’d say JetJ has changed a fair bit. Before around 2011 or so, when Armour d’Amants came out, the brand was much less prints heavy. That one piece really caused a shift in the brand.

>>10451963
I don't disagree. J et J was an early adopter of prints. But they are rereleasing things the same over 10 years with very minimal changes. The beautiful chiffon petal dress is a good example

>>10451946
VM is also a bad example, they also rerelease old pieces relatively often and the 2010 piece isn’t exactly an example of the standard at the time and the 2020 example is an underdress

>>10451951
It's the only 2010 JSK on Lolibrary from Boz

>>10451968
I really hope lolibrary get their listings back up soon, it’s so frustrating

>>10451968
Eitherway, it’s still not a good comparison. I have much older pieces from Boz, and pieces from this year. The piece you’ve selected even for the this year release is an oddity. It’s like a mashup between some of their corset skirts and the necklines of their older, wide nun collar dresses, of which the Giulietta is the latest incarnation of.

>>10451972
The photo wasn't meant to be a comparison by brand, actually. It was meant to try and find trends between brands. Like how skirts have universally become longer over time, or how the distinction between the A-line and cupcake shape seems to be disappearing.

If there's anything you feel unsatisfied about, you could always make your own comparison photo. Hell, if you're up for the challenge, you could do a timeline of every single Boz release by their release date.

>>10451974
Well you really weren’t clear with that. You posted the photo without explanation or reasoning.

>>10451974
I think this kind of exercise is fun, but i feel like you can be selective in choosing releases to match any argument. It might work better by choosing a sample of releases from one brand only.

Not trying to discredit your effort though, it was a fun idea and got some discussion going. I’d be interested in seeing more of this kind of thing

>>10451960
Gothic version. The BOZ one is 2002 vs 2020, the others are about 10 years apart

>>10451979
Goth/ classic sorry. I would do VM also but it would be amusingly similar

>>10451979
Those JetJ dresses aren’t gothic.

>>10451720
>>10451727

Same. Even the jsk looks really weird but that's a gorgeous colour, even better than their regular release of it.

>>10451982
I had a brain fart sorry. I didn't mean to say j et j was gothic. I was just making an aesthetic collage

>>10451931
Is this an example of a non matching bag?

>>10451946
>>10451979
You can’t just pic 2 outfits and say it shows something. Trends are stuff that changes over time. A lot of this is just the choice in the particular dress or the stock photo styling showing “change”. High school failed you

>>10451680

ayrt anon and I can't tell if you're replying to someone else?

I didn't say it was hard. I said it just didn't matter that much.

Also didn't say that it didn't matter at all. Just that it didn't matter that much.

>>10451986
What the fuck are you talking about? These are actual releases from different years, you can see the difference in cuts and materials. Lurk more, stupid

>>10451976
Yes, because I was curious what /cgl/'s instincts are. I guess people are pretty concerned about the quality/style difference of a specific brand more so than seeing trends in the fashion as a whole. It makes sense, because people generally have one brand/substyle they keep up with and everything else just passes by.

>>10451977
Dresses were randomly picked to encourage a more holistic view of the fashion. Not that it worked though. Oh well.

>>10451985
Even the aesthetic in the JetJ cat dresses is not gothic. It’s classic. Nothing in the styling here or the print is gothic.

>>10451931

I have stacks of matching AP eco tote bags plus the lucky pack bags (folded up inside my main bag, in case I need them) just for this dilemma.

I can't tell if I'm overdoing it being matchy with my shopping totes as well...

>>10451946
I'm sad that MM will never be in these 2020 collages.

>>10451981
There was that one classical doll release with a different coloured yoke from the Le Panier fiasco...

>>10451988
They are from different years but that’s it. That isn’t how trends work because any year can have long and short cuts, some dresses are same cut styled with a different petti. Some materials were never common enough to be compared with.

We all know stock photos don’t accurately show the dresses too.

>>10451917
No you’re not. Radfems have no problem with straight men being gnc as long as they don’t start claiming to be lesbians.

Innocent World’s new Strawberry Bouquet series (100% cotton), apron and new blouse are up on their website.
I hope they sell well despite not having international shipping. As much as I don’t care for recent IW, I really don’t want to see them go under.

>>10452003
I'm excited for the blouse and headdress!

>>10452005
Wow, that's gorgeous. I hate how expensive new blouses are but this is worth it

>>10451991
Yeah I had a brain fart, no sleep does that

>>10452000
Why are you comparing random stuff though? Seeing brands evolve shows the trends

She can't even get her story straigh coz on her elegy items for sale she says she accidentally bought two but to others she replies she bought it from her house mate who needed food or sobby shit. Same bitch complains about lace market sellers price gouging pieces for being brand.

>>10452020
who?

>>10452020

Nayrt but some girl on LM upthread was scalping indie for well over new price and using the fact that is was a PoC owned brand to advertise it/promote it in their listing even though while the Elegy owner is black, the seller on LM is a white girl so the brand owner was sort of irrelevant anyway.

>>10451931
>What do you think about bags not matching the style of the coord?
I hate not having a matching bag, or coat for that matter. I’m a lonelita and it just feels weird to me to only consider half my outfit as important when I go out.

I guess if you mostly went to cons or meetups you could drop your bag or coat somewhere and only care about the rest, but in my life a random bag or coat is functionally the same as random shoes.

>>10452005
Wait, does it have a skirt release??

>>10451979
Boz is the real MVP of lolita. Staying true to their aesthetics and quality no matter what.

>>10452061
I agree, but with the exception of an additional tote bag or something for your groceries or whatever.

>>10452082
Yeah, I have a couple of totes that work with different parts of my wardrobe for when I need them because I’m anal like that lol

>>10452062
I think she's wearing the blouse over the JSK/OP

>>10452090
Well that is certainly a choice

>>10451218
i'm with you on this, anon. but only because i hate all things yellow gold in color. yellow is not a color i look good in and that includes gold jewelry.

>>10451970
I hope so too. If anyone here is a patron, please bug the staff about it. They won't do anything otherwise.

>>10451970
What listings are you talking about?

>>10452549
By listings I mean items listed on their database. A large amount of items haven’t been reuploaded since they went back online, though they have been putting more up. Items that were released while they were offline are still missing and some older items.

>>10452549
Shoes, for one. Prices for a good number of older items are missing too.

>>10452558
The items that were in between updates just had a list made so volunteers will be uploading those soon. Items that were released while they were offline is dependant on if volunteers saved the data and upload it. Nothing can be done about that.
Any older items you'll have to be more specific. It's all dependant on if a volunteer saved the info or not. If it was never in the DB, I don't know why you expect it to be "back up".

>>10452566
Shoes, I agree. Prices are stored differently so the info is at least still there. Maybe a list could help with that one too.

>>10451218
I was going to say that I do care until I read about buttons.

>>10452726
>I was going to say I do care about matching pinks until I realized you included pinks ON the dress

>>10452729
this isn't even comparable.

>>10452731
How? I’m not talking about tiny buttons that fasten the dress in the back or on the side. Buttons are often a huge design element in lolita and just ignoring them because you can’t take 2 seconds to choose a different piece of jewelry is lazy

>>10452733
maybe you are thinking of buttons across the chest and they are thinking of waist tie buttons?

>>10451726
Post Mana's dicksize, asking for a friendo.

>>10452003
What's up with the 68 cm skirts? I like the print & cut but I'm too short for the length to be flattering. They'd have my money otherwise.

>>10452817
I was thinking about buttons on a blouse or cardigan.

secrets

Harajuku Pop's second issue will have a special on lolita flu masks.

hi newfag here. ive never been interested in buying lolita before but i have always wanted to have a ghostly, white aesthetic. ive never been able to achieve it because i cant seem to find what im picturing in my head, like functional flowy nightgown or muslin dress.
can you guys point me to what i might be looking for if this exists in Lolita fashion?
i might be into vintage-style sailor suits as well.
thanks in advance

>>10452005
This blouse is gorgeous but since when does Innocent World not do size S anymore? M is huge!

>>10452003
Forreal i’m gonn have to save my next pay for the OP and Headdress bc its so fuckin pretty and wearable

>see dream usakumya (white/red ribbon from 2014) finally come up again for price I'm willing to pay for it
>oh but I still really want the new black/red tartan one on the baby site
>let me check
>suddenly out of stock

...Well I hope they restock the black one, if not I'll try their mail order option. At least I got my dream usakumya out of it though!

IW is having another event on the August 29th for advance reservations of the AW collection and once again the prize for best dressed is something I’d really rather they just sold!

>>10452940
So if a cardigan or blouse had red buttons and your coordinate had no red in it you would just wear it? Interesting

>>10454312
Damn that is cute

>>10454332

Nayrt but it does sound like it would be an interesting pop of color in a solid colour coordinate, would definitely try it out for a retro feel.

>>10454355
But if it’s not a solid coordinate?

>>10454361

You never specified that previously though.

>>10454362
Didn’t realize I had to specify that the coordinate had colors in a conversation about color matching

>>10454332
If supposed blouse or cardigan is not red but has red buttons, I won't buy it, so no.
If your cardigan has brass buttons but you don't have brass anywhere in the coord, would you wear it?

>>10454392
NAYRT but I wouldn't wear it if the other metal in my coord weren't also brass.

>>10454366

I mean it's not my fault you were not Sagereative and didn't think of a specific instance in which it would work.

>>10454366

>Thinking a coordinate with two colors has no colors

Wow

>>10454392
I would, but I wouldn’t wear brass jewelry. Read the thread.

>>10454312
Same top tier lace as on MmM Chemical Lace JSK

>>10454432
The details

>>10454312
I’m more forgiving of their trash polyester on a skirt, at least it’s not up against your skin

Why is it so hard to get some help from LaceMarket mods???

>>10454432
>>10454455
oh shit you're right

>>10454456

God their poly bothers me so much. It's not even nice feeling poly like their pearskin they used to use, just this odd poly that falls weird everywhere.

>>10454455
>>10454913
The lace looks flimsier and cheaper on the IW though.

>>10454926
I don’t disagree, but I think it’s because it’s so much bigger

>>10454913
because they are shit

>>10452072
Has the designer for Boz stayed the same this whole time?

>>10455185
i thought i wrote this at first because i was going to.

It looks like devilinspired is trying out designing their own line of dresses. Asking people on Insta for color recommendations, sizes, and the like. Think they can make it with their own designs?

>>10455726
they will no doubt overcharge, so probably not

>>10455726
i mean, if people are willing to use them to buy taobao stuff, i don't see why they wouldn't also be able to do well with their own brand. as long as they're charging similar prices to taobao and not brands like ap, i think they have a great chance of doing well.

dress looks extremely basic, but cute. the waist corset (?) is something interesting, i'd like to see that in a more goth coord

>>10455726
their best bet would be to make items that are not only sized large enough for plus-size but also cut in a flattering shape for that kind of body. that's the only way i could see them having a competitive advantage.

>>10455953
>waist corset in a more goth coord
>did you mean every japanese gothic coord from the last 5 years

>>10455955
Side complaint, but I saw some people bitching on Twitter about how a Taobao brand said they needed to draft a new design for larger bust sizes and how that’s somehow bad... do you NOT want them to regrade the pattern? You want them to just make it indiscriminately larger and fit like shit?

>>10455953
Their first postings of the design was actually this and a dark green and black. They asked what other colors the people would like to see and pink was a popular choice.
>>10455955
The sizes they're playing with/open voting on goes all the way up to 132 cm for bust and 114 cm for waist. To me that's a bit much but props to them for offering the idea.

I'm hoping they do more original stuff and maybe ween off of scalping taobao dresses and lean in to making their own quality works.

Ista Mori is doing a limited re-release of Nameless Poem

>>10455959
it's almost like it's a popular and nice design choice.

>>10455967
neat, it'll be interesting to see how it turns out.

>>10455974
Yeah but why would you want to see the concept on a more gothic coord. That’s like saying “cool a peter pan collar, I would love to see that on a sweet design”

>>10455962
Tards gonna tard, desu
I've noticed that a lot of people don't have even a baseline understanding of... well, basically anything whatsoever, but clothing fit/patterns in this case.

Does anyone know how much a Linda Friesen dress costs these days? I love her designs but I know her pricing is pretty high (and justified for the workmanship).

>>10456078
Honestly I heard that she sucks at deadlines and customer service stuff so beware. Like months late even with a deadline months away...

My friends who have gotten some of her older designs said it around around 600, so if you are getting something custom its going to be much higher.

>>10456087

Like even for wedding dresses? Fucking shit, I was really hoping to get something commissioned from her.

>>10448579
late to scrolling through this thread but i follow her on insta she was bragging about buying the pieces after "discovering" such an amazing brand from a PoC as though it was so highly unexpected or something, so i don't buy her bullshit either.

>>10448629
that is the most decent recent lucky pack i have heard of

>>10455962
>>10456041
My bust’s not even that big but when I mentioned to other sewing lolitas in my comm that I was drafting my own bodice pattern rather than using OnS, they thought I was crazy. They told me that I should “just learn how to add shirring” or if that’s too hard, just make the pieces wider at the side seams and add waist ties to cinch the waist.

Most people I know get into sewing lolita because they have body types that don’t fit standard Asian sizing, but even when they sew from scratch they only ever do things like make the straps longer or make the shirring panel wider. Their handmade pieces fit exactly the same as if they were squeezing into shirred brand, just with poorer construction and materials. I guess they’re so used to poor fit that they don’t even see it anymore and are happy with anything that zips up.

next thread >>10456226