/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

JetJ shipping schedule (from 9th June)
>https://twitter.com/J_et_J/status/1270348048670040064

To be delivered in mid-June
>Chosesecrètes(ショーズセクレット)

To be delivered at the end of June to early July
>Le Cadre du Chat Robe 2019(ルカードルデュシャローブ2019)
>Le Cadre du Lapin Robe 2019(ルカードルデュラパンローブ2019)
>Le Cadre du Chat Chausettes 2019 (ルカードルデュシャショセット2019)
>Le Cadre du Lapin Chausettes 2019(ルカードルデュラパンショセット2019)
>Blanc et Bavardage 2020 (ウルスエトワールエウルマブラン2020)
>J’adore le Silk ActeⅡ (ジャドールルシルクアクトドゥー)
>Jupe de J’adore le Silk ActeⅡ (ジュップドジャドールルシルクアクトドゥースカート)

There are delays in EMS and suspension of collection of parcels. JetJ will suspend shipping to overseas to ensure safe delivery of packages. Delivery to mainland China will be done through couriers that are not EMS.

Am I tripping gulls? Someone listed literal fetish gear for sale in a Lolita sales group and the commenters are rushing to her defence lmao

>>10418472
I mean, what kind of standards you'd expect from group that has replica in their name.

>>10418390
> my face when my free storage period on Zenmarket is going to end in few days, but EMS is still suspended in Japan

>>10418472
post comments please

>>10418472
y'know, it's easy to deduce who you are after checking the list of groups you are into and the comm you're posting about.

is lolita gen really the thread for this shit?

>>10418472
>>10418489
Seems like it's a general j-fashion/kawaii sales group. Not sure what this has to do with being for lolita.

>>10418486
ew, who cares enough to do that much digging just to figure out which lolita is posting to /cgl/

>>10418514
this has been posted to ita thread already, but anon has no chill

>>10418515
read the comments wk.

>>10418472
This is the worst Lolita sales group for the UK, I'm not surprised

How’s cotton candy feet’s sizing? My EU size doesn’t necessarily match with their measurement chart so I’m wondering which to follow? It’s almost 2 sizes bigger from what I normally buy if I go by my foot measurements

I might have to move to Montana. I’m not very excited because e visited before and it is a vast and desolate place. Is there even a Lolita comm there or am I fucked?

>>10418707
I'm sure it's super cheap to live there at least. You can easily save up to travel to whatever the nearest comm is.

>>10418705
I was also two sizes larger than what I usually order. Do not go by their EU sizes, go by cm.

New Meta dress preview on Kera

Is there a male strand? You know, not dresses, but male "Lolita style" clothes?

>>10418956
If you can't spend 5 minutes to find a thread for the thing you are loking on this very board and try to be spoonfed immedietly, you won't have it easy in this fashion anyway. Lurk more newfag.

Divinecross wrote a blog post about how she feels that Moitie has fallen from grace. What do gulls think about it?
https://divinecross.blogspot.com/2020/06/moi-meme-moitie-falling-legend.html

>>10418975
I feel like I'd agee with her, but it's really chaotic and disjointed, makes it really hard to get through. It feels like more casual version of an essey that had to hit a word count. If she made it shorter and more concentrated I feel like it would be a good opinion piece.

>>10418975
That was a read. I saw that she’s not a native English speaker so I’m not gonna be mean but it was definitely very rambly and jumped all over the place.

Moitie lost my money when they continued to use fur year after year it just disgusts me, but I agree that the designs now aren’t what they used to be. Sizing isn’t personally a concern I have but I do miss all the detail older pieces had.

>>10419040
> complains about lower quality
> doesn’t want brand to use real fur
Why do so few people on cgl understand that no respectable high quality brand would use fake leather or fake fur?

>>10418975
No one cares what that self absorbed cow thinks

>>10418975
Tbh, I think the main problem with Moitié is that they are not having a designer. Because they don’t have one they aren’t really making any nice new things, it is probably why they are also doing so many re-releases and generic accessories. I also agree with her that what they release is a bit blend. It is more Classic than Gothic and if you look at the second hand listings, it is the Gothic stuff that really sells. Even with the high prices the stuff is gone pretty quickly. So what they would need in my opinion is like a good Designer that makes Gothic/Old School Gothic Lolita stuff. And I fear they won’t find a designer if they keep having their focus on finding a designer which also has a degree in Graphic Art.
I also do not understand why they are so focussed on finding one that has a degree in Graphic Art. Compared to Angelic Pretty and Alice and the Pirates, Moitié has never really been a brand that made original prints. Most of their designs used generic prints and fabrics and from their original prints most stuff looks like they got some existing artwork and editted things out or photoshopped things together. It aren’t really prints like Cat’s Tea Party that really meed some one with good illustration skills, if you know what I mean.

>>10419061
Seriously, the plastic stuff can't hold a candle to real leather and real fur.

>>10418486
Haha doxxx her

>>10419061
Wearing dead animals disgusts me and if other people want to well we have free will but I don’t have to personally support it. Anyway I didn’t say anything about lower quality materials at all? Just shitty design that’s boring as hell

>>10418486
Who gives a shit?

>>10418975
Quality issues aside, for me the biggest problem with neomoitie is that they want to be trendy and forcefully increase their customer base. A part of community thinks good print=good dress? We will do mostly prints. Taobao is selling? We will collab with a taobao brand. Community thinks that edgy is good? We will make terrible chockers. Weebs wear lolita? Hatsune Miku I guess collab I dunno. All that while being as cheap as possible, without making any investments in what they actual client base might want(fucking shoes).
Moitie, for me, always had a brand in itself. You could look at their pieces from 2004 and 2015 and still go, yeah that's MMM. They had this sense of continuity, their identity was in their classy, elegant designs, that still remained gothic, even if they utilized sweet or classic elements. When the discussion about that chocker began, people were saying that gothic brands did something like that before, but the problem is, it wasn't moitie. That would be boz, Alice Aaua, or more general jgoth and punk brands, not EGL Moitie. They still have nice pieces, and I have to say I tend to grow more fond of them after watching their instagram stream, they look good there, but I feel like they lack this identity that they had before.

>>10418975
I remember how she sperged on her twitter that neo-moitie didn't make their sizes even bigger and how they miss out not catering to "that audience", so whatever she wrote there is automatically discarded.

>>10418975
Who is keeping their quality up as of 2020? I've heard Moitie, AP, AatP, RPA (who was never good), and IW have all fallen at this point.

>>10419067
>the main problem with Moitié is that they are not having a designer
Do they still not have a designer? I remember Andrea mentioning a designer in passing in the latest Moitie Diaries. Also, I went to look at the application post and it's no longer open.
https://gb.wantedly.com/projects/165220#all-staffing

Here's what's written in the link above, for posterity.
https://pastebin.com/KqB0HFDd

>>10418975
I wish people whining about Moitie sizing would either shut the fuck up or stop being so fat, Jesus

I hate seeing her stretch Moitie beyond belief

>>10418975
People like her are exhausting because she thinks she knows it all since she "been a fan" for a long time. But we can break it down

>1. Headdress vs Hat
Bad example since the price is the "same" but for different reasons. I think the hat is stupid but the price is partly for the base, and they have put out similar stupid hats before. Logo Button Hat is from 2005 and is literally a hat with some buttons. Should have compared it to a headdress to be a real comparison. Also technically a piece from 2009 is not actually that price retail because of inflation, but that I can let slide since it should be similar 2ndhand anyways.

>2. Issue with having no designer/releases
She even acknowledges this is a getting better, but she doesnt have much of a point. Obviously without a designer they were struggling but she clearly didnt research much about this when she posted since it doesnt match atm stuff and should have been axed as a paragraph. Clearly its more than just if the brand has the patterns to rerelease stuff, it sounds like they need permission too. As well I dont think brands are keeping items like she thinks they are, especially not smaller brands People also do want older stuff but they are making new older stuff, even the cross pins are new items. She barely goes into anything of substance here.

>3. Social Media
Again old news, the Salon is closed. Tbh she needs to realize that what Mana did 20 years ago doesnt mean he wants to do it now. The internet and him has aged. He clearly enjoys making silly videos but doesnt want to do stuff for a club like essays or diaries.

>4. New corset
Bad comparison again, it isnt that hard to look up other corsets and see that a ton were also plain generic stuff back then too. Example is Polka Dot Lace Bustier. Quality wise the new one actually looks better constructed as is closer to a real corset than a fabric belt. Sadly not steel boning but comparable to abitellege which does similar style stuff.

>>10419079
Why can't anyone on this fucking Tanzanian finger painting board spell choker

>>10419080
They also did make huge stuff. Sleeping garden is HUGE. But she doesnt own that one for some reason...

>>10419115
It's a lolita-wide problem, I swear to god there was a while in the LJ days where I was starting to question whether I was crazy and "chocker" was the real spelling

>>10419116
It has corset lacing and comes it two sizes, fuck off. I love new Moitie, it's comfortable and versatile

>>10418975
Rolled my eyes hard when she sperged about buying things not because she likes them, but solely to support Mana. Her gross masturbation over some 50+ year narcissist cross dresser is sad.

>>10418705
I ordered my regular US size and the shoe that came was marked with an EU size two sizes below what I normally wear in EU sizing. Their conversion chart is off

>>10419147

CCF uses Brazilian size which is different from EU size. And is still off a little more size wise on top of that

>>10419102
Maybe they finally found one, I hope that will have a positive change on the company. They had the job opening for a very long time.

>>10419040
Plastic fake fur is worse for the environment than real fur

>>10419156
But the shoes was also way too small fitting, so still off. I’d order my eu size in the Brazilian sizes if I had to again. I wear a EU40 and and the shoes was marked BR38 but it fit like an EU38

>>10419132
Honestly, I feel like most gothic lolitas are like this.

>>10419040
They have always used fur, leather and quality items from the beginning. Don’t tell me you’re that rambly ass vegan AP fag who kept Shirring up all the fb posts once Moitie got popular again.

I just need to complain.
I live with my mom. I dont have opportunities to move yet but i work and pay for myself.
So, my mom says she loves lolita but whenever i try to wear it she goes
"You will be cold/hot/that hat is ugly/black shoes with pink dress is wrong/etc

And then she goes "you have so many pretty dresses why you don't wear them?"

>>10419259
This belongs in the feels thread, not the general.
Also, why don't you just ignore what she says and wear it anyway?

>>10419265
Oh,im sorry.
Well, i try to ingnore but it's kinda makes me mad anyway cause it's being said EVERY FUCKING TIME.

>>10419162
Did you use the measurement chart on their website? I generally wear EU 38, US 7.5,JPN 24.5 but based off their chart I need a EU40??? I see a few shoes on LM from them saying they were too small for the person hence why they’re selling. Should I just contact the business directly to clarify?

>>10419265
Because anon's mom is probably just used as an excuse.

>>10419166
I knew someone would accuse me of being a vegan. My perfect meal is a rare steak, I have nothing against eating animals but that doesn’t mean I want to wear their corpses.

>>10419268
Maybe they’ve updated their chart, I bought mine almost two years ago. Going two sizes up from your normal is what you need to do. I don’t know if they’re confused between Brazilian and European sizes or what, because they list it as EU size but it appears to me they actually make them in BR size because everyone says it’s 2 sizes too small which is the difference between eu and br sizes.

>>10419313
>i only want to eat animals, fuck using the rest of them for anything else

>>10419313
Yeah okay, that’s dumb then

>>10419313
...you’d just be wasting the rest of the animal if it’s already being used for meat.

>>10419326
There’s not that much overlap between meat industry and leather/fur industry but people can do what they want none of us are perfect so why point fingers

>>10419313
Vegan or not you’re cringe as hell. Moitie has been using real fur/leather from the very beginning. Cry more poser.

>>10419318
They don't use fur from livestock. Furs come from fur farms. Different anon, but I agree with them. It would be fine if fur was made the way leather is made, but it's not.

>>10419352
Nta but I don't see how killing an animal for fur is worse than killing it for food. The animal is dead either way.

Every single fucking time. Do we even have jannies at this point?

>>10419410
Considering the feels thread is still going on about that guy who was complaining about how his gf dresses, the answer is no. We’re in lawless times

>>10419410
>>10419412
Is it me or has it been especially bad in the last week or so? Not that the moderation has ever been great but even that obvious troll "femanon here" thread is still up, and then there's the carnage that is the "inspirational lolitas" thread. Doesn't seem like a thing has been deleted by a mod in days.

>>10419410
If its actually breaking a rule and it gets reported 3 times they'll delete it.

>>10419405
Have you seen what fur farms look like, or are you just obtuse?

>>10419405
>The animal is dead either way.
Yea but in this case 2 different animals are dead.

>>10419166
>AP fag who kept Shirring up all the fb posts
I'm not even involved in this argument but that sentence is fucking hilarious

>>10419444
Either obtuse or a maybe just a retard treating them as the same. Food is a necessity, fashion is optional.

>>10419352
Then that's a problem with the industry, not fur in itself. Besides anon thinks faux fur is better, which is contributing to climate change in it's production and has no sustainable option for it's end of life further harming the environment and contributing to destruction of habitat.

Since people were mentioning Moitie upthread, did anyone ever do a comparison of the old Silent Moon and the re-release I could be redirected to? Or anyone here own both of them that could chime in?
I've been wanting to buy it and it would be very easy to obtain the new release but with all the talk of quality going down I'm wondering if it would just be better to hold out for an older version ...

>>10419519
I bought the new one and the quality was nice but I dislike the cut. The fabric is a thick, nice textured poly that reminds me of older Moitie before they started doing all that flimsy chiffon and satin poly about 10 years ago

>>10419162
I'm a 11 us and I get a 42. They seem to fit just fine?

>>10419554
Ayrt, it was a few years ago. maybe they fixed the problem

>>10419444
Meat farms are pretty terrible too. Most people who eat meat don't have to.

>>10419608
Nayrt, but I only buy meat from small local farms. You can eat meat ethically, but fur isn’t ever

>>10418975
Which brand has NOT fallen from grace? I feel like all of them have at this point. Except maybe Baby, I hear people say that's the same as it ever was.

>>10418956
Ouji/aristocrat. Use the stupid questions thread next time

>>10419626
It’s weird how AATP quality is dropping, but BABY is still pretty good.

>>10419623
That simply isn't true.

>>10419626
I haven't heard anything bad about current-age Meta and people still seem pretty pleased with Victorian Maiden

>>10419644
meta has always been hideous so doesn't really count

>>10419628
AATP is okay depending on what you get, the solids are fantastic but print fabrics and the dresse cuts and designs that go with them are crap lately

>>10419646
Way to out your questionable taste.
All jokes aside though, apart from the designs themselves, Meta has always had really good construction and quality materials and I haven't heard complaints from them nowadays so I guess that must still be true.

>>10419626

VM is still as wonderful as ever, but unfortunatey because of rising production costs I think that's why they don't have as many details these days. But I'm never sad when I get my new VM releases the way I was with IW.

>>10419626
I'm really enjoying MAM these days. I'm trying to save up some money to make another order soon. I really want that stupid rabbit salopette

>>10419658
My main complaint about meta is that fucking raschel lace. It’s ugly, itchy, and I hate it.

>>10419699
imagine a dress made of organza with raschel lace

>>10419699
meta's raschel lace is soft af. have you ever even owned any? it's really high quality. some of the super old pieces have some stiff/not soft raschel but all the newer things I have (socks, bloomers, dresses) it's really nice quality and soft cotton

>>10419626
I have seven baby dresses ranging from 2003 to 2019 and I’d say they’re all excellent quality, in terms of fabrics and constructions I don’t think there’s much difference at all

>>10419705
I do and I don’t think it’s soft, but I also have sensitive skin and if it’s touching me I always end up irritated and red.

>>10419707
Same here, I've gotten at least monthly use out of my first dress which was a baby 2005 release, as well as a few 2018/19 releases and even though I've heard mixed things about the quality of the poly dresses/skirts (personally I think they're quite fine so long as you're not, I don't know, starting street fights in them) I've had a few recent AP releases that have noticeably cheaper materials than their older stuff and even newer baby poly prints, and honestly I'm quite disappointed. While I've always liked baby's silhouettes more, AP's prints are still the best so it's sad to see the quality fall so much.
Also I wish they'd release more skirts but that's another topic all together.

>>10419715
same here, I don’t own any poly baby dresses but I do own a few AP printed JSKs in poly and hoo boy am I not in a rush to buy any more, it really put me off the brand

>>10419626
Baby's reds and prints have always bled like crazy, so i guess it's not a drop in quality but that has put me off buying anything with prints from them. Unless it's not on cotton, which sucks because I prefer cotton anyways.

>>10419730

APs red also bleeds like crazy according to lots of people. Maybe red just bleeds in general? I never had this issue though with any brand. I think people don't know how to properly wash their clothes or something. Even "damaged" pieces I've purchased with red bleeding onto white come perfectly clean after one wash with basic detergent and the tide pod equivalent of oxyclean for me.

have any of you gulls snagged the oldschool pieces CC just put up?

>>10419419
fucking this

>>10419730
>>10419739
I own a few newer btssb cotton 2016+ prints with lots of red and they've never bled

Some reference to compare different editions.

secrets

>>10419739
I have a new AP dress with lots of red on that really light chiffon poly material, and pure white lace. Am I fucked when I go to wash it?

>>10419836
from my understanding ap poly doesnt bleed, only cotton, so you should be fine

>>10419739
Ha have you ever tried dealing with Baby's prints bleeding? Absolute nightmare, I've tried my Dylon color run remover and it still doesn't work.

>>10419820
Which ones?

>>10419838
One of the reasons why poly beats cotton

>>10419836

Yeah I was just referring to statements I've seen on cgl about fabrics bleeding from both brands (despite me never having a fabric bleed on me no matter how new or old or red the dye was, and I only buy cotton pieces).

That's why I think people are just fucking up while washing their clothes? It makes little sense that I've purchased items secondhand with damage the owner described as catastrophic that they took to a professional to clean but nothing came out, and then I hit it with some oxyclean once and it looks brand new (same for yellow lace sometimes, be prepared for your off white ans ivory lace dresses to actually have bright white lace after the first wash)

I did once have a non brand American vintage item from Village Vanguard or a similar looking place at a mall that had strawberries on white fabric bleed when I wore it out and sweat a lot in Japan, and none of my attempts to launder in Japan got it clean but the second I washed it back home in the US with an oxygen bleach/whites and brights product and my usual American detergent brand, it came totally clean and never bled again.

>>10419860
Oxyclean is a fucking godsend.

>>10419854
>Ha have you ever tried dealing with Baby's prints bleeding? Absolute nightmare, I've tried my Dylon color run remover and it still doesn't work.

Maybe your product isn't as powerful on certain dyes? I've bought secondhand BABY cotton pieces with horrible running of red all over it and washed it once on warm or hot with oxyclean and a basic detergent and it was like new.

And ones I've bought new or like new and washed myself from the start never bled in the first place (I wash my lolita pieces alone normally with a little oxy on warm for their first washes and then wash them together with like colors after that) I am a daily and love berry prints so I'm not talking out of my ass; I have never had issues with bleeding or removing bleeding from secondhand pieces from either BABY or AP cotton.

>>10419860
Oxyclean is great yes, but I have experienced red color bleeding when soaking in oxyclean before so I would still be careful

>>10419858

Only if you don't know how to wash your clothes or wear majority chiffon pieces that don't show the weird sheen AP viyella has all the time.

>>10419865

I have never done an oxyclean soak on a lolita item, just regular washes.

>>10419626
Baby is good, Meta is good, and several non lolita brands are still good

>>10419626
The smaller brands like Enchantlic Enchantilly, Maxicimam and Pina Sweetcollection have stayed pretty consistent. Those are the only ones I have experience with so I'd be interested in hearing if other indie brands like Millefleurs and Antique beasT have had any issues with quality.

>>10419707
I would say their crochet lace def became worse and less detailed but the sewing is pretty consistent and well done

>>10419863
I have an oldschool Baby skirt in red that I got very cheap because the print had bled. Cold water, color catchers and Oxyclean got most of it out, I'll have to try warm water to see if that will get the rest. Thanks, anon

Why are there suddenly petplay ears on LM? One of theme even has a kink photo as one of their listing pictures, wtf.

>>10420253
probably because dumb weeb girls like them now since ethots use them all the time.

>>10420254

Their account name even has a reference to "littles" in it.

Gross. I wish you could report on LM just for being ageplay. This item is not lolita so I guess you could report for that?

>>10420264
i'll report it.

Lolita dresses featured at Shinjuku Marui Annex
>https://twitter.com/iw_shinjuku/status/1272452952314109952

>>10420264
>>10420254
What’s the account so I can report it

Did anybody buy tickets to the virtual tea party? I'm on the AP Paris website but I can't find where to buy the tickets, are they sold out?

Did anyone's order from AP USA ship yet (for the new release on Friday, 6/19)?

I got a tracking number but it's just at the "label created" stage with no tracking events. I thought it was kind of fishy that they gave me tracking on Sunday because on Friday it was "sourcing from JP warehouse" and I'm not aware of any shipping methods that would be that fast/deliver on weekends. I was planning on emailing them tomorrow afternoon if the tracking still hasn't updated.

>>10420352
label created just means it hasn't shipped yet. businesses print out the label after they get the order, but that doesn't mean it's shipped yet.

>>10420360
I'm aware. I'm pretty well versed when it comes to USPS and other couriers. I'm asking here because my experience with AP USA has been that once the label is printed, they ship it pretty quickly.

I also have no chill right now (thanks COVID), and I'm hyper-focused on the small things.

>>10420365
if you were well versed enough you'd be more understanding during a fucking crisis.

>>10420367
All I asked was if other people were experiencing the same thing (getting a tracking number, but no shipping updates for almost 48 hours). What part of what I wrote made you freak out that I wasn't being "understanding"?

I never said I was pissed off at AP or anything. I got an email along with the tracking number saying my order was "In Transit," so when the two pieces of information misaligned, of course I'm going to be wondering. They could have easily left the status of my shipment as "sourcing from JP warehouse." I'm happy to wait.

Stop demonizing me, thanks.

>>10420374
NTA but calm the hell down, you sound super arrogant. Also, you clearly don't understand how USPS works if you're so worked up over such inane shit. Have more compassion for the company you're buying from.

>>10420375
I'm also not blaming USPS. Why can no one in this thread read. Where are people getting that I "have no compassion"? What have I done that makes me seem so heartless?

I came here to ask this question for the sole purpose of not having to bother AP USA with an email if any other anon's had the same experience as me.

>>10420374
Paris changes from processing to shipped as soon as they print the label. They don't operate like AP USA, sourcing is not a status. You condescended at the anon answering your question. All you had to do was clarify. If you're happy to wait, wait. No one is demonizing you lmao.

>>10420375
Where are people getting that I "have no compassion"? What have I done that makes me seem so heartless?

I came here to ask this question for the sole purpose of not having to bother AP USA with an email if any other anons had the same experience as me.

>>10420378
are you really that dense?

>>10420352
>>10420378
Why would you even email? Just wait, holy shit. How can someone be this dense?
>I thought it was kind of fishy
Accuses AP of being shady for perfectly standard business practices
>I'm not aware of any shipping methods that would be that fast/deliver on weekends
Ignoring said practices you claim to be so familiar with
>I was planning on emailing them tomorrow afternoon
Ridiculously overkill for something ordered 3 days ago, on a Friday no less
>I'm aware. I'm pretty well versed when it comes to USPS and other couriers.
Unnecessarily condescending towards someone who answered your question as-stated
>so when the two pieces of information misaligned
They didn't misalign, every company with automated notifications does this when the label is created.
>They could have easily left the status of my shipment as "sourcing from JP warehouse."
Literally who cares, why does this matter to you?
No one is demonizing you. My god. Stop picking fights and pretending not to understand your own words.

Anyway - Neon Star Diner! Does anyone happen to remember the price of the jacket?

>>10420393
i'm so hype for this shit. it's coming out on my birthday! i'm glad i'm an AP bloodbath veteran.

>>10420396
Not sure if you were confused or not, but this is the MTO reservation, so it's not going to be a bloodbath. It's not the first release, which was back in May for AP USA.

>>10420402
some of my post disappeared my bad. i'm happy about the MTO because didn't get the original release even though i'm an AP bloodbath veteran. i miss when my friend worked at AP USA so she could secure stuff for me.

>>10420393
Lolibrary says ¥14800. I’m going in for all the socks but no SS I use has posted about it yet. Anyone got worn pics of the cutsew with the jsk? I’m trying to imagine how the striped collars are gonna look so close to each other

>>10420409
Nice save lmao

>>10420350
You can only buy a ticket if you also buy an item from their website, from what I got when you buy that item somewhere the system will ask if you also want to by the ticket.

Where I do purchase lolita gf?

>>10420453
go to the nearest physical angelic pretty store and wave your credit card around

>>10420456
Shortest route is to Tokyo but my government says I can't leave the country.

What are the legal remifications of importing a lolita via express air shipping?

>>10420458
You will go to prison dont do it

>>10420459
Gatekeeper.

>>10420322

It's called thelillolita I think. In Australia.

New AATP print with a different cut. Do you guys think it will be okay for average sizes like 89 cm bust/ C or D cup? Or is it for A and B petite chest chans only

>>10420492
There's no way these measurements are accurate, this is supposed to be 97-108 cm chest and it fits the model fine

>>10420496
Are you retarded or something? This isn’t the same cut

>>10420402
NAYRT, does that mean no limits? I missed the tote bags, I hope they get listed too...

AP’s Fukuoka store is reopening and they’re selling these. They’re so cute, but AP never makes enough clips.

>>10420499
They’re also selling chouchous for Sweet Cherry Margaret, including sax as a new color, likely pointing to a future special set.

>>10420500
The clip and chouchou are presale items, it seems like they’ll receive a general release later. They’re also selling some Fancy Candy and Heart Cafe sets plus older special sets for cheap including Dream Marine Brilliant, Misty Sky Brilliant, Dream Cat Go Round, Fancy Noel, and Fairy Snow Decoration. Milky Bears will be available in limited quantity, as will the premium dress sets Brilliant Jewelry and Antoinette Princess.

>>10420497
Are you retarded? I was comparing both cuts and both sets of sizing looks off. The unshirred is supposedly 88cm width

>>10420501
Bad phrasing on my part, the Brilliant sets are regular retail price. They’re also having a fair where you can get things such as these keychains.

>>10420492
I’ve bought a lot of BABY, in my experience the measurements are accurate. Not sure why anyone would buy anything they’re too fat for anyway, if you have to squish yourself in you won’t look good.

>>10420504
I buy lots of Baby too and the measurements are frequently wrong. Things that are sized big can run small, things that are small can run huge. From what I've heard even within the same release there is variation, that would explain the wild discrepancies.

Wonder what releases you are buying that are accurate, the high waist full shirring? I buy almost entirely the partially shirred and unshirred releases

>>10420514
Ayrt, one of the reasons I buy more BABY over AP is they do a lot of quarter shirred which I like because I hate tons of shirring, I don’t need it and I don’t like the way it looks. I’ve never bought full shirred from BABY, only quarter or none. I guess I’ve just been lucky then.

>>10420504
Imagine exclusively conflating big boobs with being fat

>>10420519
not that anon but a few years ago, I guess some anon got super sick of people claiming they couldn't fit dresses cause of big boobs and decided to theorize that all the anons here who complain about having big tits are actually just giant cows and that's the "real" reason the dress doesn't fit.

Before I saw that in a thread the big boob excuse for not fitting into something was quite popular and pretty well accepted cause it's a realistic issue that a lot of girls in lolita have.
But then so is being just too fat for a dress so it's easier for anons to latch onto hating on fats as opposed to trying to tear down big titted girls.

>>10420499
>>10420500
>>10420501
>>10420503
Saw these today but didn’t repost because this exact release seems unobtainable for gulls. Although I’ve got a feeling that was sorta a preview for upcoming GB sales, so

>>10420528
Also if you remember that Candy’s pic, there also was a mint bear which didn’t get a release so far. I wonder if that little guy is coming up.

>>10420528
>unobtainable for gulls
like more so than than other releases? why do you think so for this release specifically?

>>10420539
there isn't a SS that services that area currently afaik

>>10420539
There's no Fukuoka shopping service as far as I know

>>10420503
White soles strike again, ugh

Autumn release. AP seems going full IW mode.

>>10420559
Also Petit Heart in new colorways

>>10420560
I think this is Berry Sweet Heart

>>10420562
Never mind, I realized Berry Sweet Heart is cut differently

>>10420559
Shit I love these

>>10420559
Would have never thought this was AP, from the thumbnail I unironically thought it was taobao (just from the layout of the photo, AP is usually busier to me)

>>10420542
Yes there is, there's like 5 that I know of.

>>10420582
This was my reaction. It's so bland, I want to just look away.

>>10420598
Ok, which ones then?

>>10420559
I like the skirt a lot, it'd be adorable with a cutsew over it. Too bad you can see the pleats coming apart even now.

VM is putting up more of their Romantic Room Series on 24th June, 12:00 JST (about 12 hours from this post). They are also having a fair, starting at the same time, which offers a 10% discount when you order two or more selected items. They will include some flower-shaped soap on a first-come-first-serve basis as apart of the fair. The fair will end on 29th June, Monday, 23:59 JST.

>https://twitter.com/VM_press/status/1275356576379895808
>https://twitter.com/VM_press/status/1275355780506517505

>>10420501
Fuck I want Fancy Candy but I don’t think any SS is willing to go out to a shop right now

>>10420636
I'm almost sure bigger release is coming up. It looks like a newer batch, not a leftovers from previous season. Bigger batch makes more sense for production, so I think it's totally plausible they've done more dresses than it's needed for store reopening. Keep calm and carry on :)
Idk how I feel about it honestly. I warmed up towards this print after seing some close-ups, but it's still lower priority item for me.

>>10420444
i'm just a dirty phone poster plz forgive.

>>10420393
Oooooh boy

The more I look at this print, the more I love it. I just might have to give in, not sure which colorway I want tho

>>10420432
Based on the email from AP USA, it doesn’t look like the socks are part of the MTO.

>>10420667
And looking over the email again, the blouse and cutsew aren’t included either. The MTO seems to include only the OP, JSK, skirt, hairband, and blouson.

>>10420655
Oooooh you got my little black heart going dokidoki with this

>>10420582
>AP is taobao meme for the 589th time

I love the offer to share the information of who might be the poor fucker that's out of a livelihood and trying to get their money back. kek

>>10420785
Even before COVID-19 they were always like this. Also looking at their facebook page, they say they've been keeping people updated about what's going on, but I don't see anything. They have missed deadlines and do not respond to messages.

Also peep that professionalism with outing a customer. Seeing that they say something about some customers, it seems that their "headache" customer isn't the only one.

>>10420790
Wow, I can't type today. I mean that they have mentioned other customers have been upset with them over the same thing. It can't only be one person.

>>10420785
I know several people who have been waiting for their preorders for over half a year with no updates. They were having problems meeting delivery deadlines way before COVID-19 hit Russia. They're also releasing MORE dresses for preorder when they clearly can't handle their current order load. I'd be demanding my $500 back too.

>>10420796
It makes me wonder if the MTO for the dresses got raised, it makes sense based on what's happening, stalling and opening more preorders..

>>10420785
Wow. Fuck them.

>>10420785
I'm pretty annoyed with them because instead of doing public pity posts they should have privately emailed their customers instead. When they posted this it was still months of radio silence on their end for many customers...

>>10420790
Their dresses are so ugly, the garish gold ones especially come to mind.

I like to support indie brands and think people need to be patient and not chargeback, but after Bunny House or whatever indie started failing to send orders, possibly scamming I find it hard to be too sympathetic

I have a small collection of brand tags and bags.
I don’t see the point in keeping them anymore, would they be worth trying to sell or give away?
Is there any point to keep them?

>>10420821
Not sure what you could do with the tags, but if you sell online, packaging the item together in a brand bag is a nice touch. It always makes me happy when a seller includes one, but that's just me.

>>10420824
The bags I have don’t all correlate to the brands I’m selling, would that matter?

>>10420821
I also like including them with things I sell of the same brand.
But you can also cover boxes or create linings for organization boxes. Use tags as brand labels or place an additional text label on the tag to organize.

>>10420402
>>10420409
AP USA just stated this is not an MTO.

>>10420796
Russsia is the China of the Europe, dont expect good things from that shithole

>>10420891
>russia is europe
ok.

>>10420908
nobody lives in the asia side of russia except oil workers and opressed natives

>>10420908
It’s half Europe

>>10420886
My bad then. I saw the estimated date as October and assumed it was a MTO. Not sure what else they are doing with that 3 months? Rushing a small batch?

>>10420966
It says right there it's a preorder...

>>10420908
>Christian Orthodox
>European Government Institutions
>3/4 of the population West of the Urals
>Majority Slavic
>Capital is in Europe
>European Heritage and formation

Russia is pretty European.

>>10420991
Europeans don't consider them European, and I don't think Russians themselves even do.

>>10420863
NAYRT, I kept a bunch around in case I sell the items they were attached to, but putting them on boxes is such a cute idea that I think I'm going to that instead!

>>10420995
>Implying I'm not European

Russians consider themselves Russian, not European or Asian, because they're too far up their own asses.

>>10420966
Maybe it's the leftovers from the Japanese MTO? To meet factory numbers or something.

>>10420713
This sounds so fag, eww

>>10421007
Good thing it’s pride month and I’m gay ayeeeee

>>10421038
>pride month

We here at [brand]...

>>10421044
So I’m an ameri-fag. Big deal

>>10421038
Nah, it’s not gay, it’s fag as in tranny fag. Try making some more research on how women are supposed to appear so your performance looks more natural.

AP Candy has posted new series photos. Here is “Fantastic World Map

>>10421077
Print close up featuring
>unicorn ocean
>unicorn island
>fantastic world sea
>future island

>>10421077
I came here just to post this. This honestly looks like a joke. The name makes me cringe.

>>10420722
Believe us, yet?

>>10421077
Ew the jsk looks like trash. The double buttons on the bodice coupled with the waist color blocking. Sinful

Here is “Dolly Heart” which according to the translate option on twitter will have
>OP
>Headband
>JSK
>Tired Skirt (limited to Shibuya store)
>Long Dress
>Blouse
>Mermaid skirt (??)

Petit Heart rerelease in new colors, this time with skirts and blouses

>>10421077
That brown colorway...
>coffee-stain kei

This was just labeled “Autumn Collection”, it looks like something from Dear My Love or Ank Rouge

>>10421088
>>10421085
Stop double posting photos. These were already posted earlier in the thread, learn how to scroll.

>>10421091
Sorry, I didn’t scroll through the thread thoroughly enough. Just deleted them.

>>10421077
What the fuck

>>10421077
I love seeing all the AP whores get steaming mad when they release something more classic like this. Countdown to wailing and moaning about how AP is dead yet they continue to be the most profitable brand.

>>10421084
There must be a barrette, too? I assume that’s what the bows that alternate with the headbows are. Looks to be a big release.

>>10420785
I'm so relieved to see these comments. This whole time I thought that maybe it was just a blip. Shit happens, understandable. But seeing that even more people had this problem...I'm very disappointed.

>>10421084
I'll fix some of your post. Regular release is OP, Headband, Barrette >>10421105, JSK and a long tiered skirt. Long OP, blouse and the mermaid skirt are planned to be limited for Shibuya. Probably getting a regular release later on.

>>10420991
Go tell that to the European Union.

>>10421117
if that's how you split it, what continent is the UK in now huh

>>10421121
The UK is an island, it’s by definition not part of a continent.

>>10421121
the continent of bad teeth

>>10421125
Cringe.

>>10421125
Have fun with your brittle blue chiclets

>>10421077
Did AP steal Baby's designer or something

>>10421077
I’m glad everyone hates this, hopefully that means no bloodbath stress for me.

>>10421077
The brown one looks like every handmade “steampunk lolita” dress ever made. Just needs some cogs.

>>10420828
nayrt but I've received brand bags from second-hand sellers that were unrelated to the brand I bought and it still made me happy.

>>10421079
The print is pretty cool. Not sure about the cuts though.

>>10421132
Please buy it so we won't have to look at it for weeks on AP's site.

>>10421077
This looks like something Meta or AatP would release.
And I wish it had been one of them because this is pretty cute but I'm sure the quality's gonna suck ass.

>>10421084
Honestly this is really cute but even in these pictures it already looks so shiny :/

>>10420496
Back lacing is one hell of an invention

>>10420500
haven't they already made one with sax? Back in May?

https://lolibrary.org/items/ap-sweet-cherry-margaret-special-jsk-set

>>10421122
every day we learn some more

Damn, USA stuff went fast, couldn't get a navy headband. Paris did a sneaky preorder as well, announced earlier today, they still have stuff if you missed anything.

>>10421345
That's what originally confused me. AP Paris is calling theirs a MTO and has the same expected delivery date. Didn't think it would be so limited.

>>10421345
Am I seeing something wrong..? I just checked the AP USA site out of curiosity, and all the Neon Star Diner stuff is still available for purchase, except the navy headband.

>>10421353
It was less than a minute after everything went up, I assumed other things would go as well. Guess they just had a much more limited quantity of those.

>>10421345
I’m annoyed, they took it out of my cart just as I finished typing my card info. Meh, at least I got the skirt

I would like to start a petition that this is how we should format all reserve listings on Lace Market; image images and dumb titles only.

>>10421353
I'm confused too, I got a late start but I managed to check out with a pink JSK and headband, and I still see everything in stock besides the navy headband. I guess I'll see if they cancel my order later.

>>10421077
Am I the only one who likes this? I even like the brown JSK

>>10421081
>Believe us, yet?
No and I like the new print.

>>10421104
AP whore here, I enjoy the fuck outta this.

>>10421345
I wonder why the black headband listing was removed but the navy is still up but marked sold out?

>>10421419
no anon, I love it.

>>10421419
>>10421440
So I know people have different preferences, but how does anyone look at this and see any kind of beauty?

>>10421479
>beauty
I don't even think it goes in the beauty category.
I think it goes in the cute category.

>>10421482
I think I mean "beauty" in the more broad sense. Like how does it appeal aesthetically to anyone?

>>10421485
I think the brown colorway would be nice as a skirt but the rest is yikes. More power to them, I guess, I'm sure many of us are recovering from Neon Star Diner and Ice Cream Parlor anyway.

>>10421486
The brown colorway is the worst to me because it looks like mold or mildew. I can appreciate things other than sweet, but this dress actually kind of disgusts me?

>>10421077
I'd actually like the brown colorway if the print itself wasn't as crisp. I don't know how to express this, but if it was a little bit more blurry and faded-out it would look like an actual old map, but with these clear lines it reminds me of shitty diy projects that tell you to outline the coffee stain with a marker.

>>10421485
>Like how does it appeal aesthetically to anyone?
Well personally, I like maps and globes. And I think it's an awesome idea to put that on a dress.

>>10421492
I don't think it's meant to be an old map. It has Unicorn Island on it for fucks sake.

>>10421495
What a weird thing to point out. Would you rather have AP make a real map print? Yeah, unicorn island is silly, but still pretty cute. Just because it isn't a real map doesn't mean that it can't be stylised that way.

>>10421485
I'm a steampunk weirdo so this is my aesthetic. Cool, edgy, quirky

>>10421495
are you dumb, anon?

>>10421501
What? did you read the chain of replies? Where are you even getting any of this?

I was just arguing that it's not meant to be an old map.
I actually really like the fucking print and I like that it has Unicorn Island on it.
Please go back and read.

>>10421504
Are you??

>>10421492
This is the dumbest shit I’ve ever read

>>10421495
>>10421533
Cool? I'm not saying it has to be, I just think the contrast on the others make it look really blobby and bad. The brown colorway doesn't have that issue.

>>10421533
>t's not meant to be an old map.
it's clearly meant to be an old map, have you ever even seen medieval maps.

anyone know the bust measurements for the powder rose chest ribbon jsk? lolibrary just says 88cm but it doesn't specify if that's min or max and i have an 86cm bust. i can't find a listing either.

>>10421079
>papyrus font
Yikes

>>10421503
>steampunk
>cool

Hahahahahahaha
nerd

hey melting ice kun anon, phone charm is on fril.

>https://item.fril.jp/d17c1ace9b1bb5ffe92c4c61f9ae5f69

>>10421575
It’s funny to see AP fans scramble to claim this as something new and unique when handmade lolitas have been making Ye Olde Map print dresses out of novelty quilting cotton for well over a decade.

>>10421345
Wow, I just checked and I’m surprised almost everything is still in stock. I thought it would be gone by now but only the navy/black headbands and skirts are gone. I remember seeing a lot of people devastated about missing this release too, but maybe it wasn’t that popular in the west after all.

Is it just me or has it been a long time since AP has released bracelets? These are so cute, none of the colors match my wardrobe though

>>10421915
you could buy a bracelet exactly like this at claires anon lmao. literal plastic child jewelry

>>10421915
AP got pretty lazy with the magic wand tool.

>>10421919
Why do people like you always bring up the exact same argument every time? Shut the fuck up and let people enjoy things.

>>10421919
no shit.

>>10421575
>it's clearly meant to be an old map
then why did they make it not look like an old map?

>>10421897
>It’s funny to see AP fans scramble to claim this as something new and unique
where did they claim this??

Anyone going to this? Kinda wish AP usa did this too

Neon Diner Jewelry

Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for the Ice Cream Parlor jewelry drop.

I might get the pink ring. It's the only colors that match my wardrobe.

>>1042197
It's a lot of money to pay to be sat at home eating your own food

>>10421977
those record necklaces are so cute.

>>10421977
I like the ring but I don’t care about any other ones, too retro for me.

>>10421977
The rings are so cute but because they’re the most versatile they’ll sell out in seconds, such

>>10421991
*such a shame

>>10421249
So are people hating on both good satin shiny and bad shiny now, or is it just new tags who can’t tell the difference?

>>10421769
Well shit I can't unsee that now. So ugly

>>10421973
I'm going, I'm excited but I'm just mostly praying that everything goes smoothly on the day.

>>10421575
Looking at pic related makes me realise >>10421077 would be so much cuter if they went full on medieval world map with it. Include some fantastical creatures, geographic features and so on. In itself it's a nice idea for a print but the execution is just so lackluster.

Has anyone here tried to ship with DHL? Am I correct saying that shipping some average lolita dress+headbow might take 200-300 something bucks? That’s what their calculator says, but I can’t believe there’s no cheaper option.

>>10421769
That's right. Comic Sans master race.

>>10422013
Where are you shipping to and from? That makes a huge difference

>>10421973
It's one of my dreams to go to an AP tea party, but I'll wait until next year.

>>10421077
This dress needs to be in my closet yesterday, I adore it. Hope the release isn’t too far off

>>10422013
Japan to USA DHL for me was about $100 but that was for a bunch of bags and shoes.

>>10421973
I mean US's 10th anniversary is a few months away so I imagine they'll do something similar

>>10422013
Shipped a 10kg package (though it was pretty densely packed) from AU from JP with Zenmarket's DHL option for about 10k yen, so I think it really depends on who's sending it.

This might be a long shot but I'm looking for outfit shots from official tea parties, (moitie, ap, baby) and am thinking of making an archive so they're all easily accessible with the years / specific tea party attached. If anybody can share some links I'd really appreciate it, so far I've started working on blogs. Dropped my email for anyone who wants to help me with the search, and I do plan on making it a sharable resource, probably not a webpage but a google doc or something.

>>10422089
sage for dropping my email

Another autumn collection preview from Candy. My fingers are crossed for a Halloween print this year.

>>10422013
My experience with DHL is limited to CC (Japan to USA). Shipping, no matter the size or weight, started at $20. (I'm a crazy person and I've been buying $30 AP jewelry on CC and shipping with DHL since that's the only option, and shipping is always $20. Still comes out to a better price than the 2nd hand market).

I think shipping prices go up really fast based on weight and size, because I also had CC ship all my backlogged items from before COVID and that was $40-50.for 12 items (2 blouses, 10 accessories).

The good thing is that both times, it took only 3 days to get to me. It's the fastest shipping I've encountered (faster than Yamato, even though I prefer Yamato's pricing) and I haven't had to pay any customs for any orders below $800.

>>10422151
>Yet another fucking chiffon overlay
Thanks for saving me money!

>>10422151
Damn I love that lace! Too bad the ribbons look so goofy though.

>>10422001
>Inb4 zoom bomb

>>10421973
Okay, guys, this thing still bothers me. Why would they charge for tickets to online party? There’re no expenses like food, venues rent or transportation for guests and staff. Why would they charge for it?

>>10422183

To limit access and make sure you actually buy something to attend just like their usual tea party tickets.

>>10422186
This, it's an ita filter.

>>10422183
Looks like they still have a raffle. Money could go toward that and shipping prices.

>>10421973
Got an invite to buy a ticket but the time zone difference really doesn't work for me unfortunately.

>>10422013
I’m shipping an almost 12 kg package filled with GLBs from Japan to Europe with FJ, and it cost me like 10k yen.

How were last years Moitié Lucky packs? I kind of want to experience buying a lucky pack, but I am also a very picky person. I also only fit their bigger size and I couldn’t find if you could choose between size 9 and 11. The accessoires one feels saver, but I fear I might just get the items I already own.

>>10421994
Definitely new tags lol

>>10422261
don't get a lucky pack if you're picky

>>10422009
>Include some fantastical creatures, geographic features
They did.

Next thread >>10422276

>>10422183
>>10422203
In the tea party details they’re doing raffles for vouchers so it probably goes into those. I don’t think they’re going to be shipping out physical gifts with the shipping issues.

>>10422203
I ended up buying it even though it’s going to be very early morning for me, luckily I don’t work during the weekend and I’ve been terribly bored so I just said fuck it let’s give it a go.