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WELP, San Japan is kill.

>> No.10407782

>>10407767
>implying Japanese people aren’t POC

>> No.10407784

>>10407782
They’re not brown enough anon

>> No.10407800

Im assuming people will hate this take?
They arent wrong though.

>> No.10407803

>>10407800
It's trending on twitter.

Yeah it sucks most of the world hates black people but that doesn't mean the con head needs to put them all down like that

>> No.10407805

>>10407803
>POC
>People of Color
>but really it only refers to black people
which is it? people who arent white or only black people?

>> No.10407809

>>10407805
It’s supposed to lump everybody that isn’t white into one big category. With the advent of this shit, basic white assholes are now identifying blacks and “non black POC”.

>> No.10407810

>>10407782
POC has more to do with behavior and ideology than actual C.

>> No.10407811

>>10407809
>With the advent of this shit, basic white assholes are now identifying blacks and “non black POC
bit hypocritical arent ye?

>> No.10407818

>>10407803
I didnt read it as quite of a put down than more of a reality check. But I'm white so I'm not sure, I don't want to speak over black people if they really feel it was insidious.

The line specifically "but they don't get the love they deserve" doesn't really read as a put down to me

>> No.10407819

>>10407818
It is a reality check. Anyone that thinks cons can't be concerned about the bottom line is kidding themselves.

If you want black guests request them and the fucking show up when they get booked. Buy a badge, their merch and attend their panels. Speak with your dollars if that's what con owners care about. It's not hard.

>> No.10407820

>>10407782
they meant BLPOC, a lot of people forget in their push to be politically correct that POC means more than just "black people"

>> No.10407836

>>10407782
It's fucked up that asians are never included in "poc" and basically just considered white now

>> No.10407844

>>10407767
Ive told people Dave is scum for years and been ignored or ridiculed. Just here to say haha, and be clear I had no hand in this, didnt have to lift a finger, just wait and watch. Im not going to dox you Dave, despite you doing that to me a few times now. Im not that petty, and do have a conscience that would eat at me if anything bad happened. See ya, stay safe.

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>>10407767
I don't understand what compels these people to come out with these statements. Like, there is no reason for you to nuke your own brand especially online where you can make all the excuses for staying silent as you want. Do you really feel compelled to say you hate niggers so bad that you have to put it into recordable and publicly available writing?

>> No.10407847

>>10407845
Dave has always had a snotty attitude that gets the better of him when hes frustrated and then he says overly aggressive and very stupid things like above.

>> No.10407849

>somewhere the Leighs are sighing in relief that another con is taking the shit spotlight

>> No.10407850

>>10407849
which is funny with john's entire pro-police post today. he lucked out.

>> No.10407851

their cosplay staff also quit on facebook. the whole staff.

>> No.10407852

What's wrong with what he said?

>> No.10407857

>>10407850
Picssss please

>> No.10407858

>>10407849
Tbh I kind of forgot they even existed.

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>>10407857

>> No.10407862

>>10407860
Give them rabbit ears? What the fuck?

>> No.10407865

>>10407767
Is this implying that they think their previously hosted guests are terrible people? Way to go in making everyone mad

>> No.10407867

>>10407860
>sensitive weebs getting triggered
fucking kek

>> No.10407874

>>10407782
It's literally just pizzaro PC code for black people. Somehow, it's completely inoffensive to say "colored people" in a more convoluted way.

>> No.10407881

>>10407767
Has anyone important ditched the con over this yet, or has it just been artist alley people so far?

>> No.10407889

>>10407860
That's it, I'm glad corona killed cons

>> No.10407890

>>10407767
i feel like they could have discussed the issue without making it look like they're saying "we don't invite the blackies cuz they are dramatic and rapists"???

>> No.10407892

>>10407890
isn't it saying the opposite? like they invite the rapists instead because people would rather pay for rapists than poc?

>> No.10407895

>>10407890
are you reading it backwards? they're saying that instead of people asking for black guests, they only want whores and rapists as guests.

>> No.10407896

>>10407852
>"I rather book sexual predators than POC"

>> No.10407899

>>10407896
he's saying that people only ask for sexual predators.

>> No.10407904

>>10407899
>>10407895
>>10407896
which sexual predators are they referring to here?

>> No.10407906

>>10407904
Vic for example, still gets invited every time.

>> No.10407911

>>10407906
When was the last time they had Vic? I've only ever heard of people crying he got invited to AM, but I never saw him being mentioned at SJ

>> No.10407914

>>10407911
Nah not Vic, Dave hates him

>> No.10407916

>>10407881
cosplay guests and voice actors are posting plenty about ditching on twitter

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>>10407916

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>> No.10407927

>>10407926
What happened ?

>> No.10407942

>>10407892
>>10407895
sorry, you guys are right and i misread it. i thought they were saying they didn't have many poc guests due to people requesting skeezy poc as guests when he's actually saying that people just don't ask for poc guests at all. this is what i get for going on /cgl/ right after waking up lmao.

>> No.10407945

>>10407927
the thing this whole thread is about, maybe?

>> No.10407976

>>10407942
His stupid snarky attitude makes it difficult to read his intentions. I first read it as its the community's fault for not giving enough effort and cash for POCs like the sexual deviant fans. Oveall though he's putting the responsibility on the attendees when he's the one who has the final say. If he really wanted more POC in the limelight, he could try to make at least a few shine. I see he compared it to another con that doesn't get enough love, but I'm assuming that con is smaller and doesn't pull in the same numbers either way. He's complaining that it's just not "easy" to have POC but as a white dude, that's definitely tonedeaf since it's not easy to be a person of color overall. He complains so much, and I get it, cons are a lot of work. But if he had a marketing team and a specific platform for new guests to shine, it'd be easier to pull in people. Some people on social media didn't even know SJ does request threads so that's something they could make an event for and announce. February could've been a great time for this as well but oh well, it's too late for solutions now that he said this. His apology seems forced too, he'd only be able to walk away from this blunder with a charitable action or something to really show he's sorry.

>> No.10407979

>>10407976
Looking at the comments on twitter, nothing short of having an entire list of poc guests would save the con.

>> No.10407981

>>10407904
Austin Tindle maybe?

>> No.10408059

>>10407976
Maybe if you could submit guest request in other ways than one Facebook thread in the SJ group... They basically ignore any other requests from any other source

>> No.10408104

>>10407979
They want Dave to step down now. Fuck him, he deserves to lose his position of privilege.

Plus his answer for "can we get this guest next year" is always give me alot of money and Ill think about it. Dave has burned alot of bridges in the community and its not that everyone keeps asking for vic or all the funimation va, theyre the only ones cheap enough and willing to ignore being ripped off by Dave to still come out.

And lulz at Dave bitching about sexual predators. Dave allowed one of his friends to proposition underage girls a hotel room in exchange for sex and kicked out anyone that brought it up. Later on, even put the guy on staff. Pretends to have the moral high ground despite ripping people of for 12 years now.

The best thing that can happen is they finally get rid of Dave and his cynical ass, get someone running things that actually gives a fuck about the con and attendees and thst isnt just trying to pocket as much money to pay for another house to rent out in Denton.

>> No.10408116

>>10408104
San Japan isn't even that big of a con for the con chair to profit so high. I bet if they kick him off they can afford even more guests.

>> No.10408188

>>10407904

Anyone part of the LGBT community.

>> No.10408250

>>10408188
kek

>> No.10408253

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Congoers have such a selfish mindset and think that cons can and always should have the specific guests they want.

>> No.10408260

SJ was shit anyways, no value is lost

>> No.10408266

>>10408260
Everyone was praising it as the best or second best con in Texas before this came out.

>> No.10408283

>>10408266
Being best in Texas ain't hard while being shit compared to cons in general.

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10408311

So much for the apology, lol. He's only sorry that his shitty behavior got leaked.

>Being too honest about the industry

Honest about what? That you refuse to have black guests because you think it won't make you any money?

Isn't SJ supposed to be a non-profit anyway?

Wow, this guy.

>> No.10408317

>>10408266
Been going to Texas cons for 11 years and most of what I hear about San Japan is people boycotting it for some reason or another every year.

>> No.10408343

>>10408317
In the 5 or so years I've been going to cons, I've literally never seen anyone say they were boycotting SJ...

>> No.10408344

>>10407819

Thank you so much for pointing this out. My social circles have canceled & condemned the convention, despite it being one of the few we all still go to.
Everybody's talking about what he's said on Twitter, but nobody's mentioned his clarification & apologies on the Facebook group, whether because they're unaware or simply ignoring it for the sake of being mad. He's owned up to his mistake, explaining that ultimately, it's con attendees who decide which guests are invited. He's promised to do a better job of listening to suggestions for POC guests next year, since this year's list is essentially finalized. I'm not justifying what he's said, but at the end of the day, he does have a point, as blunt & harsh as it sounds.
Con heads don't entirely know who attendees will show up for. In general, social media figures REPEATEDLY state that if fans want them at conventions, FANS need to suggest them, because cons are unlikely to invite them on their own. People also seem to fail to understand that guests are booked as far as a year in advance, so next year IS the soonest Dave can live up to that promise.
With AM under shit management & SJ potentially condemned, it would leave Akon as the only sizable Texas convention. And even THEN, Akon's reputation is notoriously sketch.
Dreamcon (the one referenced in Dave's original tweet), while a great concept focused on inclusivity, is only a small convention in a smaller mid-sized city. None of these smaller conventions serve as replacements or be-all-end-all for this issue, as none of them are currently "destination" conventions.
Despite all this, as any regular in the Texas con community (or TX /cgl/ thread lurker) would know, any & almost every convention is run by shady, dickhead management. To look or wait for morally perfect convention management would mean to essentially be leaving the community, because nearly everybody has some poor experience or problematic encounters with some form on con management

>> No.10408355

>>10408311
>That you refuse to have black guests because you think it won't make you any money?
>people of color
>only black people
>convention about content produced in japan

>> No.10408361

>>10408311
are you dumb? he's saying that attendees won't come for black guests and he's right. ffs it's just an anime con. this is the exact kind of ridiculous bs that performative social justice has created. the lack of black guests at Japanese themed conventions is not a real life issue.

>> No.10408375

>>10408355
Just hang a "No Niggers allowed" sign out front while you're at it.

>> No.10408379

>>10408361
>Attendees won't come for black guests

I'd love to see black guests, Anon.

I'd love to see anyone who is talented, but especially someone who is part of an underrepresented minority.

I'm sorry you're so racist i guess?

>> No.10408383

>>10408317
Been going to Texas cons for 15, nearly 16 years and I've not once heard of people calling to boycott San Japan before.

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>>10407782
>implying Japanese people ARE POC
you ain't black, nigger

>> No.10408388

>>10408379
i know this is bait but it's not hard to acknowledge that most anime fans are white neckbeards. if guests are racist it's not the cons fault and no amount of deflection is going to change that.

>> No.10408390

He's actually right because cons have to make money but if this is an issue he's concerned about, he and the con need to make more efforts to find a happy medium. The post came across as snarky and for those who can't read, racist, but if anything it just reflects complacency and incompetence.

>> No.10408391

>>10408379
>especially someone who is part of an underrepresented minority.
you give special attention to some people purely because of their skin color? seems racist to me

>> No.10408395

>>10408390
i wish more people would realize that he's actually saying
>I want to be more inclusive but 90% of anime fans are racists incels

>> No.10408396

>>10408395
YES. EXACTLY.
THANK YOU!!!

>> No.10408398

>>10408391
All lives can't matter until black lives matter.

>> No.10408399

>>10408395
I took it more as

>I don't want niggers at my con because they won't make me any money.

>> No.10408404

>>10408399
and that's why you're an idiot. unfortunately real life doesn't work like that. you can't just ignore demand and expect success. cons are all diversifying their guests slowly, but it takes time.

>> No.10408416

>>10408383
You must not payed any attention. There is always drama between the con staff and artist alley/dealer room/attendees/other staff. People have been promised compensation for their time and effort, but Dave always weasels out of paying. This goes for musical guests, event staff, volunteers, truck drivers. If Dave can get away without paying, he will and everyone would ignore it or shout the messenger down. Si what if Dave is an awful human beong and con artist. I HAD FUN. Only now he says something racist agaonst blacks do people care, he has trash talked whites for decades, now the jew blames white privilege lmao.

So, shitty programming, but great community has been the theme for SJ for well over a decade now. Dave can do all the scumbag shit he wants but the second he says he wont bring PoC unless they bring money, only then do people care.While making snarky comments about Vic Mignogna, only then are people mad. But dave isnt a kick vic retard accordong to the dave defense squad. Lmao. That is what he did to Vic, hope he enjoys an angry internet mob directed at him. Turnabout is fair play.

Dave has earned the hate and built a karma boulder. You willfully ignored it for years because you enjoy spending $75 to sit in a hotel lobby with your friends. You wont find many people willing to speak up for Dave, but plenty have already spoken out about his bullshit.

>> No.10408422

>>10408416
are you that person that shows up every so often to try to shit talk SJ but never has any actual proof

>> No.10408431

>>10408422

*See*
>>10407926

>> No.10408432

>>10408422
Ah yes arent you the proof anon that constantly dismisses proof but just wants me to reveal my identity. Sure dave go ahead and doxx me too.

>> No.10408434

>>10408432
Not dave but thanks for confirming what I asked lmao

>> No.10408439

>>10408398
so blacks come first?
guess everyone else gets to sit in the back of the bus

>> No.10408446

>>10408434
Proof is literally posted by dave himself, and what now? You are still asking for proof, while everyone is quitting and sayong yeah, we put up with abuse but felt we could live with it so long as we could wear costumes. Lmao. They admit they ignored this for years, but now have the perfect excuse to split without getting harassed and doxed by psycho dave and his pals.

>> No.10408459

has dave made any kind of official statement on all of this aside from the half assed apology?

>> No.10408489

>>10408459
no he does not feel bad about what he said. he just is upset that he was caught. he is acting like he is the victim and that everyone else is wrong and that he doesnt have to answer for anything. its one thing if he put his foot in his mouth once but he really loves the taste of his own feet and this was the comment that pushed over the limit. his apologies are hollow because he is apologizing only because he feels thats what he is told he needs to do by others

>> No.10408521

>>10408404
>niggerfaggots that never go to cons count as demand
???

>> No.10408626

>>10408489
He has nothing to apologize for aside from wording original tweet poorly.
It's very clear he was calling out all the shitty weebs who ask for Vic over and over again.

If no one has requested a guest (BPOC or not) then why should he spend the money to have them at the con?

>> No.10408706

>>10408489
My favorite part was when Dave, a jew, used racial slurs and blamed white privilege for it. Lol. Dave hates white people and has never been one to hide that.

>> No.10408732

>>10408626
ok DAVE

>> No.10408804

>>10408732
this just in: not everyone who disagrees with you is dave

>> No.10408808

>>10408804
no youre all just dick riding him for some reason. dave doesnt give a shit about you and only cares about the money that you weebs give him and he does not feel like he did anything wrong evn though this is just the icing on top of the shit cake human being he is

>> No.10408818

I'm glad this civil unrest is pulling the mask off of these closeted shitswine racists.

>> No.10408819

>>10408808
This. Dave has used people to make himself wealthy. These idiots still take up for him regardless of how bad they get mistreated or screwed over. Why complain about it, thats the fast track to getting doxed by dave or his cockmonglers.

>>10407926
This bitch literally witnessed jay and dave curse me out while I had to work around them being in the middle of setup. Said she wouldnt get involved after it happened. Now years later she tells the truth lmao. She and others like her are part of the problem.

>> No.10408820

>>10408818
Dave and his upper staff kept a list of gay people so they knew who not to say the wrong thing around. Im pretty damn sure they did the same with race but mostly for their internet followers. Oh theyll have lgbt and people of color work hard for them, but trash talk them in con ops.

>> No.10408821

>Dear San Antonio and our greater fandom community,

>This week, our chairman said hurtful and ignorant comments on his personal Twitter account. This does not stand with the mission and vision of San Japan. We have only been successful thanks to the hard work and support of our community. We have become one of the top anime conventions in the nation because of people of color and our LGBTQ+ family.

>Effective Immediately:

>Dave Henkin will step down as convention chairman and relinquish control to the San Japan board of directors. The board will govern by committee until a long-term solution can be established.

>All future celebrity and fandom guests will be selected by a combination of fan submissions, staff recommendations, and formal recommendations made by an equity committee.

>Our staffing, programming, and community programs will begin an immediate and comprehensive review of acceptance criteria and any possible biases that exist as barriers to entry to the convention.
I count this as a win. Got rid of his bitchy crybaby ass. The con will begin to flourish again. Still have to work against the reputation Dave made though, but with him gone that is possible. Its only a half measure to try to stop refunding for tables, but, may be worth going next year if this is true.

>> No.10408825

he still getting the money though, he stepped down as chair and control, but it doesnt mention anything about him transferring ownership of the llc to someone else, who isnt his fiance tania

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>> No.10408827

>>10408825
True but the board can gain financial control now as well. Going to be a process ans dave will likely ask for a large sum of cash to hand over the rights.

>> No.10408829

Dave still owns the con. He will still make money from the con. And anyone who thinks he will completely hands-off has never met Dave.

>> No.10408830

>>10408827
his fiance is a part of the board who handles the monies and accts

>> No.10408833

>>10408821
Well good, this isn't entirely clear on how or if Dave will still be involved but its definitely a step in the right direction.

>> No.10408837

>>10408830

Is there any proof of this? That's a major conflict of interest.

>> No.10408851

>>10408837
They dont have anyone listed on their website. No list of board of directors or anything. Theyre all close friends of Dave anyway. You dont get promoted in this con by hard work or pulling in crowds. You get promoted because you know Dave for years, or you kiss his ass for years. Even then its only because that person you replace left due to drama or whatever bs Dave put them through. Next year though you are bumped back down until the person above you flakes out again.

No proof but that was my experience during my time as a "staff volunteer"(ie i get not staff benefits and work a high technical job and not a volunteer so no volunteer perks either). I doubt anyone will challenge that now, seeing as how all the post distancing from Dave admitted to abuses and such. Theres one or two ass kissers still though, so never know.

At least this summer I wont wake up to sapd beating my door saying theyre on a welfare check because the guy that has told me to kill myself since 2010 tells the cops he is concerned I may kill myself or shoot his con up because some /k/ group thats been going since sj 1 posted they had a suite.

>> No.10408853

Why do americans care so much about race? You retards truly are a scum country filled with low IQ people.

Don't you even see that no matter how you touch the subject you end up being silly racist in anyway? What happend to being colourblind?

>> No.10408857

>>10408837
>https://mangaplanet.com/interview-with-dave-henkin-and-tanya-arguijo-directors-of-san-japan-llc/

In fact she is a co-chair. Is she the singular chair now? She brags to anyone who will listen about her impact and how Dave will do anything she says anyway.

>> No.10408859

>>10408853
>Don't you even see that no matter how you touch the subject you end up being silly racist in anyway?
Damned if you do, damned if you dont. Silence is violence and saying anything is speaking from a position of privilege. This mindset took over the convention scene around 2009 for reasons unknown.

>What happend to being colourblind?
Turns out that is racist for some reason or another because white people. Ive always treated everyone the best I could, regardless of color or creed but, thay doesnt matter to some people.

Hope it is a lesson to others at least. Dave did help push this bs social justice stuff so funny it bites him back. Be good to everyone but fuck this sjw bs, seriously.

>> No.10408864

>>10408851
There was a post on fb 2 weeks ago with all of their names and what anime they are watching.

>> No.10408888

Funny, I spoke up about how dave was allowing his friend shinji use the forums to proposition underage girls for sex in exchange to stay in his hotel room. I was punished for speaking up. Dave put shinji on staff after that too. I can dig up the private convos on an old hard drive. And yes, did forward it to sapd when it was happening. The original security guy left over that incident too.

>> No.10408918

>>10408859
>Silence is violence
I rather not partake in this shitfest because corona is still out there and we'll likely go back to lock down right before July 4th weekend. All those retarded protesters, both the right wing lunatics that want everything to be open to the dumb fucking BLM that are protesting a criminal who just ended up being prematurely executed.

>> No.10408922

>>10408853
Don't pretend every other country is welcoming to anybody the wrong shade either. It matters because racists are allowed to have too much power and run wild because it doesn't effect them, so they don't care about the shit show they cause. At least they can also turn around and pretend to be in support of ending what they created and get some social points off it in the process as well.

>> No.10408957

>>10408857

Then I don't think anything will change. People will forget after a year. Dave still makes money and still has potential control just behind a curtain.

>> No.10408963

>>10408188
KEK

>> No.10409029

>>10408853
Europe were the forebearers of racism and America perfected it.

>> No.10409043

>>10407767
Implying the people whining about this are the ones that don't just ghost the con anyway.

>> No.10409045

>>10407926
Nice cop out and passing the blame. She is the one who actually picks who the cosplay guests are.

>> No.10409094

>>10408311
>non-profit
Why does no one know what that means
Non profit just means everyone gets paid wages or salary, and the company keeps any surplus for self-investment rather than the owner, or alternatively return money to the members (i.e. refunds or gifts to members)

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>controversy over a "put your money where your mouth is" tweet
Wew.

>> No.10409190

>>10407767
He could've worded this so much better but I get what he's saying. People who say "support POCs" are actually a very small minority that is more there to virtue signal than actually put their money where their mouth is.

A great example is people saying they love Tiana because she's a black Disney Princess, but she is the worst selling princess in every country. There isn't actually an audience for "POC industry" like people think and it's all for show.

>> No.10409243

>>10408439
Damn you eviscerated them, dude

Epic bacon chungus to you

>> No.10409285

>>10409045
That's not how the con works bro. Dave was such a micromanager that you had to get guests approved through him. So staff would pick people and then Dave would tell them no.

>> No.10409341

>>10409285
he would only push for guests that he wanted to have. all of those trips to japan that he and his fiance tanya made to japan to get many japanese guests? more like ways for him to spend con money on three michelin star restaurants baseball games and the setup to propose to her. sounds like embezzeling cuz they never bring more than one or two japanese guests that arent bands

>> No.10409366

>>10408439
Until they stop coming last, yes.

>> No.10409385

>>10409094
>Non profit just means everyone gets paid wages or salary
Hahahaha. Dave pay anyone. Lmmfao. He says they dont have the kind of money to pay anyone. Then dave buys 2 houses, a new car and goes to trips to japan. Yeah, cause if he paid people even half of what they are worth he cant buy another rental house or fly to japan for a week.

>> No.10409388

>Social and cultural upheaval going on
>Cons are slowly dying due to closet prejudice and racism
We truly live in the best of times.

>> No.10409398

>>10409385
Why do people still think San Japan is a non profit anyways? It’s been an LLC from the beginning, not a 501c
But yeah no one gets paid. They’re all staff volunteers.

>> No.10409412

>>10409398
>Why do people still think San Japan is a non profit anyways? It’s been an LLC from the beginning, not a 501c
Misrepresenting themselves to push appeal to their charity auctions and such. They dont want people to know how much they draw in from ticket sales, filling hotel rooms, city parking etc. Because then the workers will start asking for money instead of just accepting a shoe box with old scratched up funimation dvds and $5 in jimmie johns coupons.

>> No.10409475

Had a friend who was San Japan staff. They got their stuff stolen and when they reported it to higher ups they said it was her fault. When she asked to be moved into a new room away from thief they said “too bad, there are no more rooms, just deal with it or book your own room”. How hard would it of been to switch one girl staffer with another? But nope, it was all her fault someone kept rummaging and stealing her stuff.


Had another friend who roomed with someone who had just got out of jail. When she told Dave She wanted to change room mates he said no and when she suggested background checks on staff and volunteers he laughed and said “not my problem”
Dave is shit

>> No.10409476

>>10409398
Dave gets paid. And will continue to get paid. Even if he’s not the chairman. It’s the Leighs all over again

>> No.10409480

Cosplay staff came back

>> No.10409538

>>10409476
Imagine thinking anime cons are profitable if you aren’t robbing people blind like the Leighs.

>> No.10409545

People crying for the con to invite Vic are such a fucking joke. The rest of staff hates the fucker because hes an asshole. Fucking losers.

>> No.10409548

>>10409341
I've always been bitter as fuck that they'll shill and circlejerk literal who eng VAs like we're supposed to be excited but ignore seiyuu requests because of "cost." Fuck Dave. I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought his escapades in jp were suspicious as fuck.

>> No.10409598

>>10408826
what an half-assed apology, as long as dave is still part of the head staff nothing will change

>> No.10409633

anyone remember san japan 1 and their guest for half time show? he was a black guest dj but i cant remember his name, i think it was dj yoshi or dj yosh or somthing to that effect but im trying to remember starting from the beginning any black guests

>> No.10409655

>>10409480
Bet you no POCs will be guesting still.

>> No.10409672

Wonder if Asian-American guests will count as POC or if they'll consider the JP guests enough Asian representation for the quota.

>> No.10409682

>>10409672
what japanese guests? dave was too busy taking his fiance around japan on san japans dime to actually get guests.

>> No.10409711

>>10409682
They were going to get guests from japan a few years back but dave backed out of the deal last minute, after the band made passports and travel arrangements with work. Really pissed off the management and put a bad reference for the convention, so, no you arent getting any japanese guests, ever. Maybe, if the con pays all costs up front, but thats not going to happen. Most the bands from within the state have had bad experiences and know better. Thats more why they shifted towards longer rave dances.

And nothing changes, the board that was in the back will take lead and dave will slip into the shadows, still get all the money and have all the say, just not have to work the con anymore. He gets to sit at home and micromanage by text and phone calls.

>>10409480
Of course, they took all the abuse and stayed silent for years, went so far as to even deny what they witnessed to protect their little spot in the hierarchy. Now that it seems to be fixed, back to the same old for them. Nobody leaves a bad relationship easy, and thats all you get from the con because thats the only way they can control people without pay.

>> No.10409719 [DELETED] 

>>10409655
Who fucking cares? Why do pee oh sees always got to make everything political and about themselves instead of showing they're talented? I don't know any ultra talented craftsman type black cosplayers. Just ones that think they should get asspats because they're Elsa with dark skin.

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10409726

>>10407767
>poc
WEAK. NIGGERS

>> No.10409922

>>10409366
>coming in last
no thatd the native americans and alaskans, but you dont hear anything about them in your carefully selected and controlled news do you?

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>>10408311
>posting an apology message behind a locked account

>> No.10410258

>>10409538
He has told me in person he makes bank. That is how he goes to Japan all the time. He is vocal about this. Do I think he makes as much as he brags about? No. But he must make something

>> No.10410259

Has anyone delt with san japan guest relation dude? Old guy with beard? He is very creepy. He creeps on girls and posts about girls butts in his Facebook page. I’ve seen him staring at girls asses before too. I get an weird vibe from him. I have him on my Facebook page only to keep tabs on his antics. he is a smarter John Leigh, he just isn’t vocal about being an old nasty man. He works for CTX too

>> No.10410403

>>10410259
Which GR guy are we talking about here? There's one guy on the facebook group who has slipped several times that he's involved with GR when defending Dave. Is the guy you're talking about the one with the Wolverine facebook porfile pic?

>> No.10410423

>>10410259
They still have Ken around? Makes it hard to take dave seriously about vic when he literally has ken on staff and assigns him barely legal girl assistants every con. Ken is one of daves old friends and a board member, so he gets alot of perks.

>> No.10410905

>>10410423
Yup Ken. He’s so creepy. Everyone I was near him he just blankly stared at me.

>> No.10410914

>>10410259
Sadly, I have delt with him....I even spoke up about it to. Don't even bother. Him and Dave are super close pals. Dave has covered for him since forever.

>> No.10410940

>>10409711
They worked with Fake Star last year and brought over Do As Infinity. Also I'm pretty sure some big name Japanese guests don't even look at cons that haven't reached a certain attendance and that they will probably not agree or cancel to any US appearance in 2020 due to coronavirus situation in the US

>> No.10410960

>>10407767
I’ve asked him about booking a Japanese band and he said good luck fishing out the thousands to just book them, plane tickets, hotel expenses, etc.
No need to be a huge dick about it

>> No.10410966

>>10408379
Sounds like white guilt. Did you shave your head too anon

>> No.10410975

>>10408888
Post it to the farms. I’m interested in the proof but you would get banned for posting it

>> No.10410976

>>10409475
Were they foil magic cards? Some girl at my high school stole a whole deck from someone at SJ that was worth $2k at the time and she admitted to it.

>> No.10411644

>>10408888
This shinji is he a white boy with glasses obsessed with sex? Last name states with m? I know him lol he’s an idiot.

>> No.10412111

>>10407836
Asians don't care about that drama, and most actual Asians look down on people for crying about race instead of just working your ass off.
My mom's entire side of the family came to America from Korea (and some of their husbands from China) with jack shit. They started a restaurant and it became moderately successful and they've been working there ever since.

But they absolutely despise it when the POC groups start crying about no opportunities and white privileged and shit. Because for them they're literally living the American dream, came here with nothing, worked hard, became successful. And then some 18 year old black faggot sits there whining about how life isn't fair and he has no chance to succeed, while he has a scholarships out the ass to learn engineering at one of the best public engineering schools in the nation.

Not to say there's absolutely no racism, but most Asians still have a culture of "quit your bitching and just work harder". And that's why they mostly avoid joining those groups or protesting.

>> No.10412408

>>10410960
He's not talking about Asians
In Texas, when people say "poc" about guests, they almost exclusively mean Hispanic and black. He'll, I've seen people claim native Americans directly descended from those on the trail of tears don't count.
Poc is usually just a vague way of referencing your own race without sounding self centered about it.
At least, the ones bitching online about it are. In person people seem to be more reasonable

>> No.10412409

>>10412408
poc just means black at this point

>> No.10412440

>>10412409
no black is black and poc is everyone else now not white. It's pretty fucking bad when Hispanics don't even want your black ass near them anymore.

>> No.10412481 [DELETED] 

>>10412111
>Not to say there's absolutely no racism, but most Asians still have a culture of "quit your bitching and just work harder". And that's why they mostly avoid joining those groups or protesting.
Those Asians are fucking stupid. The protests are about making sure blacks don't get beaten or killed by cops for minor offenses. Asian cops are as bad as white cops.

>> No.10412523

>>10412481
>hurrdurr but I'm a 20 year old art student let me explain how the world works
Congrats on discovering cops are shit and abuse their power. We've known that for decades. Next on the news rich people pay their way into university and actresses sleep their way to the top.

Asians are too busy actually working to care about something that isn't going to change no matter how much you whine about it. It'll just replace one group of assholes with another group of assholes.

Also
>but asian cops are just as bad!
Black cops are equally assholes as are women cops.

>> No.10412570

>>10412408
Where did I say poc? Because I didn’t. I was just sharing an experience from talking to Dave and how he’s a dickhead

>> No.10412636

>>10411644
Yes. Was going around the forum telling all the girls he was a male stripper with a whale cock. He is big buddies with dave up in denton. Dave was letting shinji get away with soliciting prostitution from minors on the old forum. Anyone that brought it up was banned. Eventually dave nuked the forum to bury any evidence.

>>10410975
Id have to dig out an old pc iut of my closet and pull the hard drive to get the screen caps I made. Definitely doable. But has been sitting 5+ years, so may not be any good. Ill see what I can find when I have free time.

>> No.10412639

>>10412636
>Id have to dig out an old pc iut of my closet and pull the hard drive to get the screen caps I made. Definitely doable. But has been sitting 5+ years, so may not be any good. Ill see what I can find when I have free time.
What?

>> No.10412769

>>10412636

Dave hasn't lived in Denton for over 5 years now? He's been in the Austin area for ages.

>> No.10412874

>>10412769
I havent cared to keep up with dave the past few years. But should give you a clue about how long this bs has been going on with him. Dave didnt get rid of any of his pervert buddies on staff, he got rid of the people that complained about the perverts.

>> No.10412885 [DELETED] 

>>10412481
>Asians are by far the most successful minority in the US in all ways
>"they're fucking stupid!!!"
blacks and hispanics should be taking notes on how asians achieved what they have.

>> No.10412906 [DELETED] 

>>10412885
Blacks should also take note they haven't been slaves in almost 200 years, yet they're still crying about it.
Yet only 1 generation ago Japanese people were being thrown in concentration camps in the US just because, and when taken to court the supreme court just shrugged and said its fine cause war.
Yet you don't see Japanese people throwing a fit about it.

Also where were all these protesters when Mexicans were being thrown into shitty ICE jails and losing their children because they couldn't keep track of where the kids were.
Its only now that its black people that suddenly people are making giant protests and acting like its a huge deal.

>> No.10412948 [DELETED] 

>>10412906
Didn't fucking Booker T. Washington or Frederick Douglass say that one of the great threats to liberation was the group of blacks whose livelihood was grievance and who thus didn't want to solve any of the problems facing black people, but rather perpetuate them and even make them worse?

>> No.10412964

>>10412906
>Slavery was 200 years ago
>Model minority myth
>Black issues get too much attention
Sad.

>> No.10412974 [DELETED] 

>>10412948

I think a lot of black people with their head on straight aren't trying to directly benefit from their trauma/oppression, etc. They simply want more accountability or effort put toward making the playing field actually even so they CAN be self determinant but because they feel they have little power in the system they want those who do have power (politicians, the wealthy, etc., who are often white or "in" with "white society") to help dismantle policies or practices that habe a disproportionate negative impact on blacks or non whites that are holdovers from past intentionally racist or segregationist policies.

It's hard to feel like you have autonomy when a huge proportion of people assume the problems you are trying to solve don't exist. Everything in America isn't inherently racist the way some critical race theorists may claim, but a lot of institutions like policing and prisons and educations, lending programs, etc. have practices that are handed down from a time when things were actually intentionally racist so blindly following tradition or policies without understanding the previous harmful intent can lead to things never getting better.

Another issue is people politicizing what most Americans would otherwise call a human rights violation that needed to be corrected if it were going on in a socialist or communist country. It's only political in the sense that changing and revising public policy can help resolve most of the issues, but being more open to helping inform those who don't understand also helps convince people you aren't the stereotype they may assume and some people are tired and not making the effort anymore which as a fellow black person I see as the wrong decision. I've heard stories of an old black man who got literal klan members to give up their robes just from being reasonable and kind and proving their prejudices wrong. If he can do that, people my age have little excuse to not cooperate with others on the issue more.

>> No.10412978

>>10412636
Is he on staff still? What area does he staff in? Wow. I didn’t know he was a pedo and a pimp. Blocked!

>> No.10412984

>>10412974
now this is a good post

>> No.10412989

>>10412964
>myth
Asians achieved success in all areas without resorting to violence or claiming all wypipo are evil. Where's the myth there?

>> No.10412994

>>10412989
>without resorting to violence
uuuuuuh

>> No.10413006

>>10412994
Ah yes, the super violent Asian-American civil rights movement! Oh wait, that never happened.

>> No.10413109

>>10412906
>Yet you don't see Japanese people throwing a fit about it.
You clearly haven’t seen the protests in Japan that have happened on a weekly basis for years. They hate Americans for a lot of reasons including the camps and mostly the nukes

>> No.10413181

>>10413109
maybe they shouldnt have raped nanking then

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>>10412906
>>10412948
>>10412964
>>10412989
>>10412994
>>10413006
>>10413109
>>10413181
All of you GTFO and go back to /pol/ we don't want this shit here

>> No.10413184

>>10413109
>They hate Americans for a lot of reasons including the camps and mostly the nukes
Not really, that's an afternote.
They hate America because American soldiers are literally the worst people on earth, and the area near the American bases are filled with rape and crime because soldiers have nothing better to do while in Japan so they just fuck with the local people.

The anti-american protests in japan are about getting rid of the american bases.

>> No.10413187

>>10413184

In Hiroshima there is a HUUUGE sentiment of peace and nuclear nonproliferation. They for some reason really like Obama but hate Trump because a lot of the international peace organizations there and whatnot don't think he'll ever give up any nukes.

They have an entire park dedicated to various long and short term victims of the bombings and a huge multi building/multi wing museum with education on rhe bombs and their impact and all the history/evidence leading up to the bombings and their goals for a post-nuclear society. A lot of older people there are super kind but constantly advocate for peace and their mentality and approach is very hopeful and inspirational. At least all the English info.

>> No.10413216

>>10413183
>anyone who disagrees with me is pol
>>10413184
spoken like a true college liberal.
goes to show youve never lived there or talked to any locals

>> No.10413218

>>10413216
No, regardless of anyone's opinion, politics don't belong on this board.

>> No.10413379

Since no Texas thread. Not sure where to post this but a bunch of dallas cosplayers got outed as racists. They were sharing very racist memes and imagery. One is couple the girl is known for doing Tinkerbell and Disney princesses. The guy is known for doing Futurerama. They also cosplay Rogue and Gambit. Now both are crying about losing their jobs. They also have group of equally racist friends. So if you see them around dallas know they are major racists. Will post censored caps

>> No.10413385

>>10412874

Oh you're right on point. And very correct how he drops people that call him out or his friends out.

Was just updating you hasn't lived in Denton in ages.

>> No.10413387
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If you see them they are racists

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>>10413379

Whenever I hear complaints from edgy or racially insensitive people about how their lives have been ruined due to people's responses to their own behavior/posts they knew were clearly racist or shitty, I just think of this image.

>> No.10413391
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10413391

Beware other princesses this is one tinkerbell you don’t want to be seen with. She has made jokes about Jews, black people, Muslims and other minority groups.

>> No.10413394

>>10413390
They said the girl is now depressed because she lost her livelyhood (their words) of cosplay. kek the guy doesn’t care

>> No.10413403

>>10407874
>Somehow, it's completely inoffensive to say "colored people" in a more convoluted way.
bingo

>> No.10413407

>>10413391
>>10413387
Why should I be afraid of pixels.... How the fuck am I supposed to know who to avoid? You obscured their faces.

>> No.10413429

>>10413109
to be honest, every civilised country out there either hates or ridicules americans for good reasons.

Japanese think of americans with disgust, Europeans laugh their ass off at how much of a shitshow the country has become and how pitiful their people have become (fat stupid fuck is common term around here), middle east hates their guts for various reasons (mostly destabilisation though) and when it comes to other asian regions (China, Korea) I won't even start. If a chinese person could personally kill of an american by clicking a button they would do it without any hesitation.

>>10413391
Everyone makes jokes about minorities. Why do you even care?

>> No.10413434

>>10413109
they're talking about japanese-AMERICANS, who never threw a violent fit and yet managed to be very successful

>> No.10413444

>>10413429
>to be honest, every civilised country out there either hates or ridicules americans for good reasons.
every country hates every other country