/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10375988
Colossal con got postponed to September

>>10379017
>Spring cons postponing into the Fall
Big mistake. They're going to end up cancelling.

>>10379046
Wait why would that be an issue?

>>10379146
Uh because the beer virus is still going to be around and more people will be infected and die.

>>10379320
? it will stop being a thing that needs to be worried about by late may. screencap this. cons will be back to normal scheduling by june.
hell, even now you shouldnt be worried unless youre old/immunocompromised or regularly come into contact with old/immunocompromised people

>>10379400
I"ll be here waiting and laughing when all the fall cons being to cancel.

>>10379400
>cons will be back to normal scheduling by June
Not a chance. Around half of the cons originally scheduled for June have already been postponed or cancelled.
I do think fall cons are a possibility, but that could go either way.
States will be "open" again in the next month or so, but there will be some sort of rules in place regarding large gatherings, which will vary by state.
It's anybody's guess as to what those rules will be and how long they will be in effect.

>>10379410
>>10379434
both wrong. early june cons restart. screenshot this.

>>10379438
I place my money on this as well

>>10379320
It won't matter if states are reopening which they will by then. Georgia is already relaxing a ton of shit next week including allowing gyms, massage parlours, and theaters to be back.

Cons definitely late autumn/early winter will be back IMO

>>10379459
Like hell I’m going though. Cons are full of disease in the best of times and if they happen before this is all over it’s guaranteed that there’ll be a big spike

>>10379438
Where at? In bumfuck nowhere Montana?

>>10379609
I would guess any state that isn't the west coast or east coast

>These retarded gulls that want cons to go on this year
How about you all fall in line and just stay home?

It's just a matter of time before someone sets up a virtual con, i'm just not sure what format it'll take place in, either something bespoke where the purchase price of the software is the "ticket" or just run it inside... VR chat, Minecraft or something else i might not be familiar with.

Really tempted to go for an Index really, in terms of cost its about the same as what i'd spend on going to cons anyway, and i know plenty of gulls spend way, way more than me.

>>10379459

>>Georgia is already relaxing a ton of shit next week including allowing gyms, massage parlours, and theaters to be back.


And it's a dumbass decision. We're going to see a huge ass spike and Kempf gonna be forced to do another lockdown again.

He's fucking retarded.

>>10375988
Yup. All mine cancelled. Even if I wanted to go to one in the US there's no guarantee the border will be open by the time the con rolls around.
Even if the border is open, most people at conventions don't bathe properly. One giant crowded infection chamber.
Most of the people I work with agree this thing is set to linger to at least Sept/Oct at this point. I don't know if I'll be attending any cons this year.

You think attendees, guests, AAs, vendors,exhibitors could still afford to go to cons this year?

Stop holding on for eArlY jUnE iT wILL rEsuMe

>>10379740
>AX gets fucked by the beer virus
>tfw the beer virus gets cucked by June and the con would’ve been sav-
>Japanese guests aren’t allow to travel due to strict regulations
>guest list is barren without resorting to Youtubers and dub VAs
>all the panels are fan based, every single one of them
>would’ve capped the con as a extra precaution, which AX would never do since they love money
All cons would’ve been fucked especially AX if the virus was gone by summer because planning everything at the last minute ALWAYS leads to disaster.

>>10379711
he claims the businesses can still practice social distancing but he's opening ones that have a lot of direct person to person contact. wat?

>>10379763

He's fucking retarded. Massage parlors, nail salons and hair salons? That's the worst places to open... That's /direct/ touch with nasty ass Atlanta people.

gg, Kemp. Killing Georgians to keep your pockets fat.

>>10379762
I mean, I attend cons to drink in hotels with nerds. The actual event can be a dumpster fire and most times I wouldn't even know.
But even if things are open by June, and they find a space that would accept the liability of opening, the actual convention would be a half-baked disaster as you describe.

Physical contact cons are dead anyways. By next year all convention committees will move over to a virtual online platform since it promotes social distancing and it is very inexpensive to run and organize.

>>10379046
At the time they postponed there was still hope. They will more than likely cancel as the date approaches.

>>10379762
Honestly I'm just thankful that they didn't wait until Day 0 to publish the cancellation notice. You know they would've.

>>10379972
You mean pull a Nakacon?

>>10379762
The clusterfuck of useless regulations they're testing at Shanghai Disneyland proves that it wouldn't even be worth going to.
>Capacity restrictions
>Huge gaps in lines
>Parties separated
>And all of this doing approximately jack shit because 100 people inside a theater as opposed to 300 isn't helping much

Hell yeah man. I spent near 300 bucks on my first cosplay, and all the pieces finally arrived in the mail. Not sure what I want to do with the socks, the skirt might be an inch, half inch too long. But man, ACEN 2020 is gonna be a fucking blast. Right? I'm not going to have to sit on this investment for a fucking year, right?

>>10379017
>>10379046
>>10375988
>>10379681
>matter of time before someone sets up a virtual con
But there already are virtual cons since 2 years ago
>They didn't go to ComicVRket
Pic related are booths selling doujins.

There are also jps doing cosplay events as well. This is a recent one.
Was nice seeing and experiencing the anime cosplay convention in VR.
https://twitter.com/keiki002/status/1244832188907933696

They made a group photo after as well. We didn't manage to go to the group photo due to not realizing they'll do a group photo and time constraints.
https://twitter.com/keiki002/status/1251307541419552768/photo/4

There is also an upcoming Virtual Market 4 soon. Basically booths that sell mainly Virtual items for use.
https://www.v-market.work/v4

>>10380660

>>10380660

Did I waste money buying AWA tickets just now? It's around November 1st

>>10380660
Skirt competition

>>10380665
>>10380673
>>10380721
>This is the future of fandom cons
Based
>>10380675
Yes, you should not be planning for any cons until 2022.

>>10380675
>Buying a ticket to a con when you really could be looking at "soup line" level depression by Christmas

>>10380778
I seriously doubt cons will be inactive til then. At earliest fall this year, latest summer next. This virus is a meme and Georgia is basically reopening next week.

>>10380782

Imagine being poor

>>10380928
Your personal finances are irrelevant if the con doesn't have money to support itself. Furthermore, if the con center is the base operations for the soup line like some other cons are being used for right now, then there will be no con.

>>10380928
>This virus is a meme and Georgia is basically reopening next week.
>>>/pol/
I'll be here laughing when Fatlanta becomes the next NYC.

>>10380993
And that's a good thing. At least the economy won't be dead which is way more important than old boomers and immunocompromised zoomers

Who cares. Cosplay, conventions, anime, and video games are all non-essential. We can survive without them.

>>10381059
Do people like you not have parents/grandparents, or do you just not care if they die?

>>10381117
Right? Like, I hate my grandma but I would hate it more if my selfish actions lead to someone's death

>>10381117
I'm 40 and they died when I was 13

>>10381059
unironically this. it's actually good for the environment, too!

Dragoncon is supposedly still going on.

https://www.ajc.com/blog/radiotvtalk/dragon-con-2020-says-not-canceling-postponing-for-now/nCe7GtjoaessrU6tPbYGiP/

Let's all press X to doubt and start asking how the people who dropped $1200+ on a host hotel are going to get their money back.

>>10381256
>For now
AX and SDCC said that too. DC is getting cancelled.

I think in most civilised countries large gatherings like conventions could be stopped for 2, or more years. Small gatherings will probably start being permitted this yeah, but events of that scale are a huge cross infection risk. And don't forget that if a vaccine is 12-18 months away, they have to inoculate millions of people, so ramping up manufacturing scale from that breakthrough to millions will take months, usually flu vaccines are only produced on such a scale to protect the most vulnerable.

>>10381512
>vaccine is 12-18 months away
At least there’s tests and those are only available to rich celebs

>>10381515
That's why we shouldn't be talking about conventions until 2023.

>>10381256
Generally a convention doesn't get to collect cancellation insurance from the venue unless it's forced to shut down by the city/state, so you'll notice that most will say "we're planning to run *for now*" or things like that.
t. Washingtonian who saw ECCC and Sak wait until within 10 days to announce cancellation

>>10379400
This, At this point corona Chan will just become like seasonal flu. You’ll probably even be able to get both vaccinations in a single seasonal shot. Or looking at the evolutionary pressure she’ll degrade into a common cold in a decade or so. Remember the flu we get today comes from the Spanish flu in 1918. It went from a 2.5% death rate to now maybe a 0.001% mortality rate. Corona Chan maybe started at a 2% death rate and is already down to 0.2-0.12% death rate.

>>10381572
You mean 2030, right? Can't wait for AX2042!

>>10381661
I can understand why the dragon con attendees are in panic mode because a lot of them put non refundable deposits and upfront prepayments on hotels combined with a fear of losing their "legacy" status with their hotels. Dragon con is one of those events you plan for the day after it ends.

https://news.yahoo.com/sunlight-destroys-coronavirus-quickly-us-scientists-082536009.html
You shouldn't have cancelled those summer cons.

>>10381833
Sunlight kills basically everything microbial, doesn't mean it can stop them once it's in someone's system. And just how much time do you spend outdoors at a con Vs crammed halls and dank rooms

>>10381680
Would those hotels really not cancel despite this corona meme? I feel like they should be named and shamed

>>10381930
When you're the only games in town shaming them doesn't work that well. They'll obey an order but with Georgia reopening doesn't look like that'll be happening any time soon

>>10381950
So AWA 2020 is up for memes boys and gals?

WOOOOOHOOOO I cant wait to spread corona chan in November

>>10381956
Why is it always the trannies that start the most shit?

>>10381930
Like Hyatt gives a fuck about some onions guzzling simp

>>10381930
Dragoncon host hotels sell out in seconds and the rooms that become available will sell for $600 per night. They give negative fucks about "name shaming" when their hotels are at 100% capacity for the con.

CNN is just down the street from those hotels, you think DC and those hotels want the entire world know they don't care?

>>10379836
>Social distancing
That whole lead to people challenging the whole social distancing mess. I hope this leads to civil unrest.

>Otakon is cancelled
They could have postponed in advance but DC is gonna get buttfucked by the economy.

>>10382391
How long until Crunchyroll Expo gets shitcanned too?

https://www.otakon.com/info/2020-event-cancellation/
Another one bites the dust.

>>10382443
This was expected and what's more better it will hurt Otakon and DC more because there's nothing more settled and all the jobs.

Thank You Muriel Bowser you stupid fucking bitch.

>>10382399
>How long until Crunchyroll Expo gets shitcanned too?
Soon....

>>10382368
imagine taking CNN seriously.

>>10381661

Wasn't there a con just recently that canceled on Day Zero?

>>10382391
DC's saving grace is the federal government sector is recession proof. The DC area is the only region that laughed off the 2008 recession. It will be rough for the city's coffers but not devastating.

>>10381097

Yes we can. Does that mean we want to? No. Does that mean some peoples mental health doesn't take the hit? No. I get that a person should have better control over their mental health and not rely on cons for an outlet, but for some, it really is the only way to have that break.

>>10382616
Naka-kon

>>10382620
Not to mention we have the right to complain on this chinese basket weaving website. It's not like we're protesting for shit to open, just sad that it has to close for a good reason.

>End of July
>Was going to be its last year anyway do it probably has no money
>In one of the most hard hit cities in the US
It's turbofucked isn't it

Barely getting out stage 1 at this point.

>>10383274
Stage 2 is completely where we're at in Florida. My manufacturing company never stopped working, best buy and other retail does curbside, etc...and beaches have opened in some places. I think we're going toward stage 3 in late May.

https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/04/27/anthrocon-2020-canceled-coronavirus/
Muh furry cons!

>>10379017
I love donnels determination to get some kind of cut

>>10379617
Everyone loves those iwoa cons.

>>10380778
Since the u.s. is an inhumane monster country eventually we will normalize these deaths before a vaccine ever comes about. Enough of us are cowed to accept that too and call it liberty

>>10380778
>Yes, you should not be planning for any cons until 2022.
You're retarded.

>>10382782
Are they seriously using OBS's logo in the middle of their logo?

>>10383543
>Thinking cons will even happen later this year or next year
That's just a fact that you won't accept

>>10383566
>That's just a fact that you won't accept
Sadly enough you're gonna have to kill me to accept it.

Unis in Cali are literally going online for either the fall semester or the ENTIRE FUCKING YEAR

no cons until mid 2021 at this rate, lmao

>>10383808
I was supposed to graduate this semester but it got moved to fall. Then fall gets cancelled. They're just gonna leave me and my graduating class to rot aren't they

>>10383808
>no cons until mid 2021
I hardly doubt anything will cancel in 2021 if not then you're gonna expect a ton of shit flying over.

>>10383808
>Unis in Cali are literally going online for either the fall semester or the ENTIRE FUCKING YEAR
If I was still a student, I would take the rest of the year off and go back when the university opens up. This is just dumb.

>>10383825
Just take the year off and find full time work.
>>10383866
Everything is going to be cancelled until 2022 since it's not discovered that the virus can be transferred airborne.

>>10383877
>Everything is going to be cancelled until 2022 since it's not discovered that the virus can be transferred airborne.
The virus isn't airborne enough if they continue the lockdown then I expect riots and uncertainly because waiting a vaccine hurts the economy even more.

>>10383877
>Everything is going to be cancelled until 2022
You're truly a fool.

Well we can have cons with certain rules in place. There should be a cap of 3,000 people total in a convention center (attendees, vendors, con staff, security, etc.) along with everyone wearing mask and latex gloves. Temperature check should be included with the typical security bag check. I don't know why no one can run cons with these kinds of rules right now.

>>10383881
>>10383898
You're as dumb as those Trump protesters wanting to reopen. Stay home and playing with your costumes for the next few years.

>>10383877
When I said "graduating" I was talking about the ceremony, not my eligibility to earn a degree. I don't need to take any time off.

>>10383874
At least in my case, when quarantine happened I had already put money into paying for my application and other fees which are non-refundable so long as the university it open. It's unfavorable, but it's what we got.

>>10383909
>There should be a cap of 3,000 people total
Sounds like a hot petri dish.

https://abc7.com/newsom-closes-beaches-california-beach-covid-19-coronavirus/6139060/

Indefinite Stay-At-Home order incoming. Goodbye CRX, Twitchcon, and the ALA, AX, SDCC of 2021 and beyond.

>>10384014
Yes, the order will continue, but don't get your panties in a twist. It's not forever like you try to adamantly claim.

>>10384014
Goddammit Schizoanon, stop giving me hope that they're not going to try and force people back into offices by Mid-May. It's cruel

>>10384041
California might attempt to in June being that the SF Bay Area's orders are through May. I doubt that LA will jump straight to offices after theirs runs out mid-month. Probably sync with the Bay Area's schedule and then the two would attempt to open a little more in June. Some of Silicon Valley's companies have mentioned June as well.

>>10383881
lol thinking the state of global capitalism is going to look the same after this. What ever rebound happens it's going to rewrite the rules. Things aren't going to look the same.

>>10383909

>Cap of 3,000 people

This is still a stupid ass idea. Not to mention a huge FUCK YOU to the others considering some cons average 15-20k+

Let's face it, Even limiting the amount of people that can go to a con is still asking for trouble. Even with 3,000 people.

>>10384136
>What ever rebound happens it's going to rewrite the rules.
and it gonna rebound the rules there's going to be absolute chaos if shit flies enough.

>>10384040
Don't be dumb, Newsom and Garcetti are enjoying this way too much.

>>10384169
You can reply again when you get some reading comprehension.

>>10384194
The lockdown is now indefinite. As long as they are in control, we won't be having cons around this time next year.

>>10384218
God you just doubled down instead of fucking reading. Incredible.

>>10384220
Indefinite lockdown means no cons for the next year either. What's there to understand?

>>10384040
Did I say that cons would happen this year, next year, or the year following?

>>10379017
That gives me hope.
My big con is Youmacon and I'm still a bit worried.

The good:
>Con isn't until Halloween weekend - end of October / beginning of November. Lots of time.
>Con is large enough not to be cancelled on a whim, but hopefully scrappy enough to be flexible where needed
>Con staff are active on social media and are, so far, assuring us that the con is still likely going to go on without a hitch

The bad
>One of the two main buildings that house the con is currently being used as an overflow care facility for COVID-19 and will probably continue to be used as such into the early summer
>Its in Detroit, one of the hardest hit cities
>The con organization has always been spotty. Effective where it really counts. But spotty.

I'm just glad I never sprung for tickets to ACEN or SDCC, which I was seriously considering this year.

>>10384235

AWA is the same weekend as Youmacon. No wonder last year there were so many different vendors from previous years. I imagine they opted for Youmacon since it was one they probably already did and had scheduling issues, or preferred it over AWA.

I am not too optimistic that this will be over before the end of year. Some states are opening back up, but we'll see another huge spike as a result which will put us in another lock down, wash, rinse, repeat.

>>10384242

I meant to say, No wonder there were different vendors from previous years. The previous years vendors probably opted for Youmacon over AWA either due to scheduling conflicts, preferred Youmacon over AWA or wanted to try something new.

So what will people do to celebrate anime now that cons and the industry are dead?

>>10384169
>Newsom and Garcetti are enjoying this way too much.
It shows that politicians are fucking control freaks and need to be fucking neutered. I hope this leads to a massive recall or massive protest in California tomorrow. Shit is definitely gonna hit the fan soon enough.

>>10384235
I bought tickets for AWA 2 weeks ago :/. Hoping they roll over.

I'm not even worried just about con cancellations this year. I'm worried things will go back to normal (in other words, allow big gatherings again) but the turn out and budget will be way worse. I love big cons. I feel like social distancing will be a factor.

But worse, is that the economy and people's funds are going in the shitter. Not only will fewer people show, but they'll spend less too and it'll be less nuts at the bar. I feel it'll take 2-3 years for weeb wallets to recover

>>10384439
>I bought tickets for AWA 2 weeks ago :/
What was your thought process when buying those, I gotta know.

>>10384422
The whole thing is fucking stupid.
>CDC just reported that deaths in the US are significantly higher than the average, even accounting for COVID victims
>The Orange County register reports that 1% of the county has been tested in the past seven weeks, which means that the data is fucked
>The county isn't tracking recoveries at all

How has nobody handled this shit in seven weeks

>>10384439
>I feel like social distancing will be a factor.
It won't be a factor soon enough because in the next couple of months everything will be back to normal unless the government wants to push mandatory then they'll expect more civil unrest and tension.

I hope next year we go to war China unless they man up and take those fucking sanctions from the UN.

>>10384441
I figure it'll just roll over next year if it doesn't happen this year. Probably cheaper too

>>10384441
Thought process was New York had only 8 new cases yesterday according to their website

Oh wait, the media didn't want to you that. Shit, Hillary is at my door.

>>10384242
Morgan, I know you shit on your entire green room staff and can't pay your workers at the leather company, but dude, don't lie. Youmacon was hollow as shit last year. There were different vendors from last year because they were the "shit vendors" as you called them yourself, that you wouldn't let in before but had to this time because your vendor hall got gutted when all the dealers found out you had no notable guests. Also we know the grudge you have for AWA since they moved to Halloween and you had an attendance drop. You even whined on Facebook because Japanese guests don't trust you and went to them instead. Seriously bro, read your post. The reply is so out of place and unrelated, you can smell the vendetta from here in Dallas.

>>10384284
>So what will people do to celebrate anime now
Watch them

>>10384439
That's true. I always forget to factor in that a lot of weebs are HS/College aged and really just don't make decent money at all. Which is understandable at their age.

I didn't start attending cons until I was already a mid-20's white collar professional. I really take for granted the face that money is rarely an issue for me con-wise.

On the other side of the coin, my brother in law is a professional illustrator who makes his living selling commissions at cons and online. Ordinarily he makes a pretty solid living out of it. But with cons getting cancelled left and right and his online consumer base being strapped for cash, he is getting straight up fucked financially.

>>10384488
I wasn't talking to you, schizo-chan. Go complain somewhere else

I absolutely think there won't be cons for 2020. 2021 there will be. But 2020, there are signs that this will play out like the Spanish flu, it goes away until winter, then comes again.

And in Cali it's already pretty hot, but it's not getting any better. Not even mentioning the fact that some events might just be cancelled out of mourning. The thing that makes it worse is honestly opening up too fast instead of waiting for both deaths and infections to slow down. No cons till 2022 would be assbackwards, but there's totally no Cali cons until 2021. Not even schools are opening up until 2021, how are we going to expect cons?

>>10384584
>there are signs that this will play out like the Spanish flu, it goes away until winter, then comes again.
there are defintely not. it's already shown to thrive in hot temps.

>>10384485
That's fair. Personally, I wouldn't buy anything during this time but you do you.

>>10384587
>it's already shown to thrive in hot temps.
We will see in June through August if that changes.

>>10384600
Or just look at countries with hot climates, anon...

>>10384601
I did and the cases are decreasing right now. I wouldn't worry one bit we shall see in June if the cases continues to decrease.

Evo got cancelled today.

>>10384602
>People go to beaches on a hot and sunny day
>Spike in cases go up the next
Okay whatever you say.

>>10384583
Go read the new york health department website. I wish i was schizophrenic because then I would be well distracted from this bullshit.

>>10384631
That's not how it works? It takes 2 weeks to catch on usually. But either way this virus has been only shown to be affected by super heat not regular weather heat. In FL we've had 90+ days for 2 full months now and it's a hotspot.

Heat doesn't do shit to this virus.

>>10384630
>Evo got cancelled today.
Good, Fuck Mr. Wiz and others.

>>10384752
Actually it does, but you need to heat yourself up to 157 degrees.

>>10379146
The bigger issue is actually thinking ahead to the future, the con after the postponed one would have only half a year or much less time to prepare for something of the same scale or bigger. It's not like they can generate money or prep time any faster.

>>10379400
>Its just a flu brah

Crunchyroll Expo just officially got cancelled.

>>10384631
Thats not how it works, that spike is from 2 weeks ago since thats how long it takes for shit to stop feeling cash money.

Give it another 2 weeks and THEN we'll see the spike

>>10384752
Sunlight and outdoors should be fine, it's the people who are getting together in warm humid buildings thats spreading it.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/us-coronavirus-update-05-01-20/h_8777111fc29b9d8d0ba92a172350a7b8?utm_source=fbCNN&utm_term=link&utm_content=2020-05-01T17%3A37%3A45&utm_medium=social
Where are you stupid fucks that still believe that Dragon Con is still happening?

>>10385077
Using cnn for a source and not the actual Georgia health site.

Bleat harder sheep.

>>10385156
CNN is in Atlanta and every other news outlet is also reporting the same numbers dipshit.

Anyone know if MIku Expo is going to roll over if shit won't get better by the fall? I don't see any fall con, concert, and other event happening. Fucking retards at Dragon Con should have cancelled instead of listening to the stupid Governor who is leading everyone in his state to their deaths.

>>10385237
Considering how fucked Japan is right now. I don't think Miku isn't even coming. They should have cancelled her tour and appearance at Coachella. Even Coachella should be fucking cancelled instead postponed.

>>10385239
anon, she's a hologram.

>>10385236
CNN is the worst new media outlet now in bed with Fox News dipshit.

>>10383540
Chicago isn’t real apparently

>>10385254
don't insult his waifu like that

>>10385287
that's, uh, not the state that chicago is in

>>10383881
>they continue the lockdown then I expect riots

Just have the cops and national guard shoot to kill at all the selfish fucks who would riot or protest. This is for our own good and if they can’t accept that they shouldn’t live in our society.

>>10375988
My bigger concern is that even if cons do happen they will likely be dead. Most people will be too freaked out to be in a crowded room with other people.

>>10385291
>This is for our own good and if they can’t accept that they shouldn’t live in our society.
I hope they kill you first.

>>10385292
>Most people will be too freaked out to be in a crowded room with other people.
Unless you are fat, out of shape and have terrible immune system then you should never be in cons in the future.

>>10385289
He is, uh, implying that any state that isn’t on the east coast or west coast is irrelevant. I know you didn’t bother to read the chain of replies so I will generously spoonfeed you. A previous poster claimed that any con that isn’t on the east or west coast would likely reopen. The person I was replying to was referring to “those two Iowa cons” as a way sarcastically saying that there is literally fucking nothing between California and New York. I contended this statement by presenting Chicago, the third larges city in the United States, as a prominent example of something that exists between those two coasts. I am aware that Chicago is in Illinois just like you are likely aware that Illinois is between the east and west coasts. I am would also contend that there are plenty of other cons between the east and west coast besides any that may be in Iowa.

I feel like you were baiting me, if so it was successful. Enjoy your (You).

>>10385254
The band and tech crew are human moron.

>>10385305
kek

>>10385236
Bleat bleat.

>>10385295
Finally! the perfect future of "no uggos allowed" cons is coming to pass!

>>10385305
I get the impression that midwest state-cons tend to pull respectable numbers of attendees (pulling numbers of my ass, but say between 5 and 10 thousand), but compared to the coast states mega cons that boast tens if not hundreds of thousands of attendees makes them seem like a joke in comparison.

>>10380778
Shut the fuck up, bill gates

>>10385442
Chicago Comic Con is apparently the third largest in the country. Doesn’t get as much hype I guess but the numbers speak for themselves.

>>10385291
ok china calm down and drink some bat soup

>>10385442
As someone familiar with the Chicago/Midwest cosplay scene, Acen easily draws 30k+ every year, C2E2 is always a massive event as well, and even the (forbidden) Kopf con Midwest did 15k for the weekend usually. Acen has been bigger than Otakon for a few years now.

>>10381097
Cosplay, conventions, anime, and video games are all essential for me and my happiness, you aren't. I can survive without you.

>>10385291
You should die in a fire with your family you selfish piece of shit who don't care for people's happiness

>>10385616
>Cosplay, conventions, anime, and video games are all essential for me and my happiness
You need to re-evaluate your life since all of those will be going away very soon.

>>103856930
Life doesn't work like that, retard.

>>10385693
>all of those will be going away very soon.
only conventions schizo

makes me wonder when colossal con east will cancel

Lost my job, my car, and my apartment because of covid lockdown. Life in shambles aready at 24 because of this. But at least I didn't get the flu!

>>10385760
>Getting your car repo'd and evicted
What shit hole do you live in? All you had to do was call your bank and it's illegal to get evicted at this time.

>>10385761
Banning evictions for the duration of the crisis is good public policy but you can't assume your local laws apply everywhere, anon.

>>10385767
What country?

>>10385760
If you're in the US, that eviction was illegal and you can sue

>>10385815
>Suing your landlord for not letting you stay in his property without paying rent

God bless America.

>>10385767
Alot of shady landlords got put on blast by my state's AG when news of their crap got aired on the local media. They ended up cancelling the eviction and put the utilities back on.

>>10385918
Do you want to live somewhere were you can wrongly evict people?

>>10385760
>my car

Most banks or credit unions will let you put 2-3 months worth of payments on the back of the loan.

>Newsom ready to move to phase 2 of reopening California
This will backfire. We should remain in lockdown until the end of the year.

>>10385730
Anime will go away as already several seiyuus and other industry pros have succumbed to the coronavirus. It's going to be impossible to replace those people when cases and deaths in Japan keep going up. Same could be said for video games and cosplay in Japan as some well known cosplayers and video game industry members have also succumbed to the disease.

>>10380721
>>10380673
>>10380660
That actually sounds pretty cool.

>>10386325
>We should remain in lockdown until the end of the year.
Fuck you and Fuck Newsom

>>10385730
Conventions ain't dying either you doomers needs to take a fucking chill pill.

>>10386325
I understand the heat he's getting to reopen, but i hasn't even been two weeks since the protests. We are absolutely going to see a spike. Thankfully I'm in a position to continue working from home, but I fear for the times that I have to go out and shitheads thinking they no longer should be practicing safe procedures.

>>10385730
>>10386358
>Conventions not dying
No one wants to be cramped in a Convention Center anymore.

>>10386369
I'm terrified that the work from home order we have in place in Florida is lifted sooner. I work with a bunch of Republicans, some of which, feel this is just another flu.

>>10386372
>No one wants to be cramped in a Convention Center anymore.
You're a congoer and terrible in parties too.

>>10386390
Its ironic that your libtard no borders policy and claiming calling the source of the virus is being raaaaycist is what caused this pandemic.

I hope you get infected.

>>10386390
There isn't much you can do about the things out of your control so try not to worry about it too much. What you can do is be thorough with the safe measures and decontaminate well before coming home. And I'll try to take my own advice too. It would be nice if the only people to get sick were the ones avidly protesting, but alas not.

>weekend of the con the convention center is being used as an emergency hospital

ok

>>10386018
Yes. In a perfectly free society I could evict someone from my property immediately after they pay rent, and with no obligation to refund that months rent payment. Anything else is communism.

>>10386325
>We should remain in lockdown until the end of the year.

Three years minimum. But ultimately I think we should transition to a society that minimizes in person contact between people.

>Anime Matsuri in Houston in July is still going ahead, in a "safe environment for our attendees". How many Japanese guests will attend in the current environment remains unclear, though another one was announced at the weekend.
Most of this summer's Japanese culture events in Europe and the Americas have already been postponed or cancelled.

Oh shit AM, WTF are you doing?

>>10386369
I'm terrified that the work from home order we have in place in Florida is lifted sooner. I work with a bunch of Republicans, some of which, feel this is just another flu.

>>10386544
>Oh shit AM, WTF are you doing?
Waiting for a Force Majeure

Most if not all of these cons are pretending to go on with their show to cellect insurance but want to cancel deep down

>>10386414
>is what caused this pandemic.
Yes its the libtards fault and not the orangutan in chief who refused to listen to advice for months

>>10386563

I don't blame them for wanting to cancel. Even if this virus seems to be on a drop off, putting a bunch of smelly, sweaty greasy nasty ass weebs in one building for 4~ days will certainly cause issues.

Problem is, they have to wait until they are forced to cancel - Otherwise it would be a breach of contract with whatever venue they have and whatever contract for room blocks at hotels.

So long they don't pull a Nakacon and cancel on day zero lolololol

So, ideas for a virtuual con? by pure chance the home page of 4chan had a /mlp/ thread talking about them arranging a hybrid virtual con with streamed pannels. So if the horsefuckers can do it, i'm sure we can. maybe.

>>10386566
>Doesn't know that the Dems paid the Chinks to unleash this virus and now killer hornets on American soil

>>10386563
>>10386572
Any con that was suppose to take place in July have already cancelled. AM is runned by the most despicable people on earth.

>>10386633

I see. While that may be true, It might just depend on the contracts and local government.

>>10386633
AM is probably hoping to be the last con standing. But like another Avon mentioned, they'll likely have trouble securing international guests.

Is there not a way for cons to imply to attendees that the event is cancelled without directly saying it thus keeping them eligible for insurance?

>>10386633
Florida Supercon and Metrocon haven't cancelled yet.

D*C getting real close to getting canceled because the city just released a new ordinance against public gatherings I guess.

>>10386702
AN ORDINANCE BY COUNCILMEMBER CARLA SMITH AS SUBSTITUTED BY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT/HUMAN SERVICES COMMITTEE TO RATIFY MAYOR KEISHA LANCE BOTTOMS’ EXECUTIVE ORDER VIA WHICH THE MAYOR’S OFFICE OF SPECIAL EVENTS AND THE CITY OF ATLANTA DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION WERE ORDERED TO ACCEPT NO NEW APPLICATIONS FOR PERMITS OR SUB-PERMITS FOR OR RELATING TO EVENTS TO BE HELD IN THE CITY OF ATLANTA GOVERNED BY CHAPTER 142 OF THE CITY OF ATLANTA CODE OF ORDINANCES, AND VIA WHICH THE ATLANTA POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS TO ACCEPT NO NEW APPLICATIONS FOR SPECIAL EVENTS GOVERNED BY CHAPTER 10, ARTICLE II, DIVISION 3 OF THE CITY OF ATLANTA CODE OF ORDINANCES; TO PROVIDE FOR THE CONCLUSION OF THE MORATORIUM IMPLEMENTED IN ACCORDANCE HEREWITH UPON DECLARATION INFORMED BY THE LATEST SCIENTIFIC AND MEDICAL EXPERT INFORMATION CONCERNING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC THAT GATHERINGS MAY OCCUR IN ACCORDANCE WITH PERMITS ISSUED BY THE CITY OF ATLANTA; TO PROVIDE THAT PERSONS IN POSSESSION OF A PERMIT FOR AN EVENT WHICH COULD NOT OCCUR DUE TO THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC MAY HAVE THE CITY APPLY THE APPLICATION AND PERMIT FEES PAID FOR SUCH PERMITS, TO A NEW PERMIT APPLICATION FOR AN EVENT TO OCCUR WITHIN ONE YEAR FOLLOWING THE DATE OF THE CONCLUSION OF THIS MORATORIUM; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

And additionally:

SECTION 4. Any person or entity in possession of a permit issued in accordance with Chapter 142 or Chapter 10, Article II, Division 3 of the City of Atlanta Code of Ordinances for an event scheduled to occur anytime following the World Health Organization’s declaration of the COVID-19 pandemic on March 11, 2020 through the date of the conclusion of the moratorium declared by executive order in accordance with Section 3 of this Ordinance, shall be entitled to have the City of Atlanta apply the application and permit fees paid in connection with such permit, to a new permit application for an event to occur within one year following the date of the conclusion of this moratorium.

>>10386618
Posts like this are the reason why critical thinking skills are crucial in school.

>>10386709
Can you give the tldr version?

>>10386587
Zoom panel cons are garbage.

WHO IS READY FOR ANIME MATSURI IN JULY? 2020 is AM's time to shine! AX is cancelled. SDCC is cancelled. AM is NOT! It's time for John and Denise to become the darlings of the convention showrunner circle and transform Texas into the must-see destination of this summer, and every summer to come!

COVID! DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS!

>>10386738

New ordinance basically states that no public gatherings will be given a permit until the COVID-19 pandemic is over or medical professional consider it safe for crowds to gather.

>Burning man is set in the middle of nowhere Nevada yet it got cancelled
No hope for any con until 2022.

>>10386783
You make it sound like having in the event in the middle of nowhere made a difference. It's the amount of people, not the place. It's not like the virus is afraid of the desert.

>>10386783
>No hope for any con until 2022.
Seems like the govenor of Nevada has gone full retard all of sudden.

Who wants to start a nude con?

>>10386734
>Protesters go out
>Government unleashes giant hornets to force people to stay home
It's been working so far.

>>10384485
>>10384591

AWA has typically allowed roll-over if someone had to cancel.

>>10386563
>Most if not all of these cons are pretending to go on with their show to cellect insurance but want to cancel deep down

that makes no sense, i'm guessing you've never seen a dec sheet.

>>10386810
Burning man was cancelled like a month ago.
I wouldn't look at its cancellation as any sign of what will or will not happen in the realm of conventions.
Burning man is a unique event that doesn't take place in the confines of a convention center, which means they don't have to deal with the type of venue contracts that comic and anime cons do.

>>10386841
Oh god, no thank you

With the way the mid west is going it's safe to say our entite region is just going to be walled of for the next 10 years.

>>10387289
I doubt it.

>>10387289
Can't make money that way. Honestly my bets are the US starts WW3 to get the war machine started

Where are you fucking retards that said DC had a chance this year?
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/atlanta/no-dragon-con-pride-parades-this-year-city-council-decides/BRIVLGGGFZCEHEWM4SALDNS2X4/

Doomers have no awareness of reality, and are just scared little people who rather stay cooped up in their rooms and being told what to do. Ignore them. Let's keep going to cons.

>>10387350
>Dies from coronavirus because they wanted to dress up as their favorite Chinese cartoon character in public.

>>10387337
>https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/atlanta/no-dragon-con-pride-parades-this-year-city-council-decides/BRIVLGGGFZCEHEWM4SALDNS2X4/

That's just parade. But the Atlanta Mayor also said she's not issuing or allowing any other permits for events this year unless the situation changes or medical officials consider it safe for large event gathering.

This could also affect AWA, even though it's not technically in Atlanta.

>>10387357
If the parade goes, so does the con. The parade is one of DC's annual highlights.

>>10387355
>Dies
You will die long before I ever would.

>>10387360

They said that D*C is till going to happen, but you're right, The parade probably makes up for most of it's weekend attendance.

>>10387310
No one doesn't wanna go to war but if China doesn't take full responsibility and accept a ton of sanctions they will be NUKED into orbit.

>>10387391
not to be /pol/ here, but America is all about fighting, it's where most of our tax money goes, it's the biggest industry next to prison systems and being an asshole on purpose. ofc america's going to pick a fight with someone.
Besides, china can't take responsibility for a lock of preparedness and our diminishing healthcare system

>>10387394
if you think china can't take responsibility for fucking over the entire world, not just america, then you must be an absolute tard. everyones healthcare system wasn't ready for this.
>inb4 not muh nhs or wherever the fuck you live
you know you got screwed over too

>>10387411
Lol everyone relies on Chinese money so that's never going to happen. But who knows what the US will do. All the headlines coming from that country are insane.

No one is going to war with China. We're now in a space race to colonize planets and we'll soon migrate and live on Mars now that no one can live and survive here because of CoVID-19.

>>10387469
CoVID-19 isn't permanent I can tell you that no one isn't gonna wait a year or two for a vaccine while the country gonna restore in a slow process.

The worse process if this going to be slow process were gonna have shit flying like crazy when riots start.

All the changs here are improving their English. Well done.

>>10387537
だってばよ

>>10387537
>>10387525
>>10387469
>>10387431
>>10387411
>>10387394
>>10387391
stfu gtfo

>>10387469
This is a premise that I think is really fucking goofy but also enjoyable. I wouldn't write this, but I'm currently writing a story where one of the main characters is a writer and this is the basic setup to the story they write.

>>10387668
Piss off/

Dragoncon is in a shit situation. If they cancel now, they lose money through multiple breach of contract fines. If they go on, the turnout will be well below average and they still lose money from low attendance numbers.

And then there's the people who dropped over a grand on a non refundable prepaid host hotel room. Nobody is going to eat a $1k loss without a fight.

>>10387836

Well they are probably waiting until they are forced to and can use the "act of God" clause to try to come out relatively unscathed.

As for the people with the prepaid rooms, if the con gets cancelled - they might get lucky and the hotel will issue some sort of a refund. If not, I am sure many many many many people will call and raise hell and file disputes, understandably.

AWA isn't out of the woods either, even though they are in the end of October - at the rate things are going, we might not see a down curve to this until fall — that's IF we're lucky. But given how the governor is Willy nilly about opening shit up, we are likely to have another bad spike and lockdown ordered.

>>10387836
There are a lot of things going on, and some loose ends to tie up, but Dragon Con is in the endgame of doing what needs to be done before announcing its cancellation.
I fully expect said announcement to come within the next 48 hours.

>>10387431
>Lol everyone relies on Chinese money so that's never going to happen. But who knows what the US will do. All the headlines coming from that country are insane.

the only thing worse than our politicians is our press machine. there is basically no serious popular journalism source here, so the headlines you see are going to be fucking crazy from most primary outlets because they've all got a narrative to sensationalize.

tl:dr press headlines aren't news, just clickbait

>>10387841
Cant be a spike if everyone was already infected

>>10387915
Everyone is hating both the politicians and press for all the right and wrong reasons the people are pissed off over misinformation. I feel like nothing going on in the summer will make people lose their minds over it. I pray and hope con-season will be back in running around late summer or fall season at best.

>still no word on CRX getting cancelled

>megacon cancelled as of today
Damn it, guess I'll try metrocon or tampa comic con

>>10387924

That is true. I'm not that optimistic any other cons in GA will go on for the rest of the year, as well as Ren fest and other things.

Such a shame, but it’s either con gets cancelled this year and next year’s con is even better or some cons that aren’t postponed yet go as scheduled and the only guest of honor they can get is fucking Suzy Lu.

>>10388103
Next year cons wont be much better than the ones planned. How would next year conventions be better since they got canned this year? How can they make them better?

>Suzy Lu

Seriosuly?

Also, everyone is ignoring the fact that after this pandemic is over we will be in a years long economic depression since there are a lot of Americans who dont have a job and will be unemployed for a long time, possibly years.

>>10388121
>Also, everyone is ignoring the fact that after this pandemic is over we will be in a years long economic depression since there are a lot of Americans who dont have a job and will be unemployed for a long time, possibly years.

you mean... there is actually a consequence of continued total lockdowns that is bad and could hurt millions of people?

>>10388145
Yes there is. And it will hurt anime conventions and all other consumer spending without some form of universal basic income or serious intervention.

>>10388121
>years long economic depression since there are a lot of Americans who dont have a job and will be unemployed
What's wrong with getting paid more to stay home than working?

>>10388156

Sadly, Unless the government extends it, That $600~ extra for UI will only go until July 31st.

>>10388158
$600/$700 is enough to save and build up something till finding another job or opportunity. Right now there are talks of extending even the GOP don't want that they want these people to work, have fun and return back to normalcy. I just hope things will be back up and running till fall or later this year for anime conventions. if sports comes back unscratched then anime cons will come back no problem this year through next year.

>>10388166

That's a week, you're right... It is, but I see so many of them buying shit online and blowing through it because their stuck at home. They think this will go forever and they won't have to work for a while. I've been telling them to build up savings so that way when the CARES act stops, they'll have some fall back and give more time to look for a job.

I'm getting partial unemployment for loss of hours, Using my check to live off of and banking the UI + 600 extra.

>>10388158
I'm on UI and I haven't been getting the extra 600/wk at all.

>>10388121
Unless you’re an attractive woman, you can always be a twitch streamer or start an OnlyFans account

>>10388185

You should be.. It's been my understanding as long as you and claim atleast $1 of UI, you get the FUPC payment.

>>10388189
I know, but I haven't, unfortunately.
And its so impossible to get through to anyone on the phones or online that I'm lucky to be getting anything at all. They didn't pay me for three weeks last month and then all at once.

>>10388192

Strange. Unless your state is different, but it's on a federal level so I dunno. Sorry to hear that, anon.

>>10388195
Thanks anon, I'm pulling through

>>10388173
>but I see so many of them buying shit online and blowing through it because their stuck at home.
These stay at home laws cannot go far enough there has to be an limit to that. I still hope anime cons will come back around late fall or early next year.

>>10388209
There will come back late august early september. The first ones will be swamped with people that are stuck at home that WILL come, even if they have to fly or bus there.

>>10388187
Men dont have that option.

They're basically going to be unemployed or underemployed for a long time.

>>10388215
>>There will come back late august early september

I doubt it.

>>10388218
That is fucking hilarious

>>10388218
Good.

>>10388209
>These stay at home laws cannot go far enough there has to be an limit to that
It will end in the year 2025.

>>10388248
>>10388265
Have sex

>>10388266
>It will end in the year 2025.
You're crazy but I can see that happening.

>>10388218
And every average looking or below woman. Stop whining

>>10388267
Quit projecting your lack of dick wetting on me scrote

What's the point of going to cons when you can just cosplay in the comfort of your own home and post it online for everyone to see? You still have to get out of your house, burn gas, pay for parking, hotel (if applicable), and admission just to physically be around people who could be carrying the virus unknowingly. Why are people upset when someone wants to have a mass gathering without social distancing these days?

>>10388324
I agree. You can still do all the activities of a con in your home such as cosplay, watch anime, play video games, drink booze, and smoke weed. The only thing you're missing out is banging random seagulls which has already lost popularity.

>>10388324
>Why are people upset when someone wants to have a mass gathering without social distancing these days?
Social Distancing is an absolute joke of a plan by the government. If you don't wanna go out then don't go out for cons that will make you sick.

>>10388306
That’s what being a professional victim is for.

>>10388378
This. Women are best for being professional victims anyway.

>>10388156

for the person doing it? nothing i suppose if your sense of self worth can handle it.

for the rest of the community/country/world? the money will run out way faster than you or these other posts think it will. And then the money will flip and become worthless because nobody is working and nobody will trade their good or service for it. And that shit can usually be measured in hours when it gets that bad; just ask some of these poor countries with dictators that can't balance a checkbook trying to build their currency back from the ashes.

>>10388349

For me it's a bit of a community thing. Without it keeping people together it easy to just slowly break away from the community

No mass public gatherings until 2022

>>10388433
Every social interaction will have to be in front of a screen. Sheer dystopia and people just accept it!

>>10388555
Just move lol.

>>10388557
I don't have a passport and I have no money to move. It's shameful that dystopia has been normalized.

>>10388406
Who cares, I would rather stay home and be living while collecting money on the side rather than going out to work and face the possibility of catching the virus, knowing your days will be numbered.

https://kotaku.com/the-2020-tokyo-game-show-has-been-cancelled-1843329846
TGS has been cancelled.

Work on your cosplays

>>10388589
>has become an alcoholic and drinks all hours of the day
>completely unable to find structure in life
>only sweatpants and undershirts
>no consistent sleep schedule
Why u call me out like this

>>10388583
Japan's economy is gonna TANK HARD!!!!!

>>10388433
Go back to >>>/pol/ dipshit

>>10388595
Aww, you gonna cry now?

>>10388589
How can I work on cosplay when I have no job and police will arrest me for going outside?

>>10388592
Cons dedicated to Korean manhwa and Chinese manhua when?

>>10388615
Not happening anytime soon...

>>10388615
gross

>>10388597
No. but I'm gonna feel sorry when the economy get back up together again in a couple of months.

>>10388613
>getting arrested for being outside
Have you tried not being black

>>10388615
Uhhh, K-Con?

>>10388616
>>10388621
>>10388665
Will I get laughed at for cosplaying Korean manwha characters at an anime con?

>>10388679
I’ve seen people cosplaying as character from Hamilton at ALA a few years ago. If that didn’t seem out of place, cosplaying as Tower Of God characters won’t seem out of place either

>>10388592
B-but the Olympics?

>>10388433
Why are people so desperate to go to work and for cons and other mass gathering events to happen so soon? I'm enjoying staying home, watching anime, playing video games, collecting unemployment, and working on cosplay all day. We can stay like this for years to come and no one would care.

>>10388772
where do you think the budget for those unemployment checks come from

>>10388797
Who cares, government is just going to print more money for based inflation.

>>10388590
Sounds like heaven to me sis

>>10388772
The good unemployment runs out in July. After that it's going back to the peanuts unemployment. If you're living with your parents and not paying rent that might be enough but everyone else is going to be hurting

>>10388959
>The good unemployment runs out in July.
It's been extended into October.

>>10388711
FUCK THE OLYMPICS, THE NFL IS THE WORLDS LEADING SPORT NOW MOTHERFUCKER

>>10388573
>Who cares, I would rather stay home and be living while collecting money on the side rather than going out to work and face the possibility of catching the virus, knowing your days will be numbered.

thats a different problem than what I was replying to.

I don't blame you for being worried about a corona-chan visit. but the truth of this is that for a very small part of the population that are ill and fatality, this will be a tragedy. most of the rest of us will get it and recover. carry it without getting sick, or never have gotten it when a vaccine becomes available likely next year.

>>10388772
Some of us are not lazy and also enjoy social interaction.

>>10388772
Tfw don’t qualify for unemployment in shit southern state

>>10389044
A vaccination is likely to come sooner than later but I worry that's gonna hurt more than the virus itself.

>Mfw none of the postponed cons from spring that moved to the fall have yet to be cancelled.

>>10389094
Tfw essential and have a good benefits package but sitting around on my ass and getting paid quite a bit for it sounds awesome

Now that buffets and movie theaters are a thing of the past, will conventions also become extinct in the post-covid 19 era? It's impossible to apply social distancing and force everyone to wear a mask.

>>10388772
Same! In this time is being a hikikomori very useful. Normalfags already freak out without social stuff.

>>10389064
So a disgusting normie

>>10389275
>It's impossible to apply social distancing and force everyone to wear a mask.
It won't be permanent unless you wanna continue your fearmongering bullshit.

>>10389317
>It won't be permanent
That's what you think and many conventions are con centers are going to adhere to state orders. No mask means no entry. I'm sure cons both big and small will have to cap at 300 people max.

>>10389353
>That's what you think and many conventions are con centers are going to adhere to state orders.
alot of states are opening back following the guide lines to social distance or whatever to get back to normalcy much quicker. I think cons will come back as the same probably this fall until they can go full limit again next year.

You know what? We should let people break quarantine if they agree to be on the "do not admit to hospital" list because they're too fucking stupid to take this seriously.

>>10388679
You tell me.

>>10389592
Same, but you should be in "don't speak to insane retards" like you for example who spew bullshit everytime.

>>10389450
>alot of states are opening back
Guess what happens next? More people get infected. Stay home, no more cons ever.

>>10389936
>Stay home, no more cons ever.
Now i know you're trolling faggot.

>>10389936

GA is opening back up and cases are "increasing" but with the incubation period all over the place for some, and the people who aren't showing any symptoms but still going out... it's hard to tell. Kemp is now saying all people in Georgia can get tested, whether they show symptoms or not. He just wants the cases to increases so he can get more money for the state, shut it back down and sit on that money.

at this rate, we likely won't get out of this pandemic until sometime next year.

And Blerdcon just called it quits. Cant blame them as black folks are the ones getting hit the hardest by the WuFlu.

>>10389648
Grammar, retard. Do you understand it?

>>10389300

because in our modern first and even 2nd world, production never stops. If it does, major chunks of society wilt because the consumer is now very far from the producer. Meaning: people will run out of crap to do, and resources to consume and have to get new crap and new resources.

This is especially true for most people because most people have credit card debt and rent, not savings and backup plans, so they fear not being able to work.

You know how people say its harder to get a job if you dont have a job?

>>10389936
>Guess what happens next? More people get infected. Stay home, no more cons ever.

this is the problem i see most people having. They think the goal of the lockdown was to prevent infections. But it wasn't the primary goal. The primary goal was to slow it down enough to make sure the medical system wouldn't be overwhelmed like it was in some european countries.

But many people I talk to are conflating that with trying to total stop infections from spreading, which is ridiculous. Its way too transmissable, has too long an incubation period, doesnt make everyone sick who gets it, and we don't have conclusive proof that you only get it once. We were never going to stop it in the first place.