/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10364561
I haven’t seen this girl NOT talk about this dress. I’ve always hated it. Nothing against her, but everything clashes. I understand that she’s trying to incorporate a bunch of animal crossing themes but it was executed awfully. The bell bags look out of place and clunky.

>>10364567
This is actually frustrating me to look at. Why not do the sky on the bodice with a few of the cute pins/buttons, and a tree/forest/village themed skirt? She could have even got a high quality render from the game and have her own fabric printed with it to really nail it. Could have put her favorite ac characters on it via pins or even small plushies if she wanted a 3d element.I feel like an opportunity was wasted, she could have made a cute money-bag bag instead of that small bear one (is it supposed to be Tom nook?) That doesn't fit in at all.

Technically the dress looks great but she really fumbled it with design choice

>>10364591
the bear bag is modeled to look after a bag in the game

>>10364567
It’s okay. It’s constructed well but too many ideas that clash. Should have just stuck with a few themes.

Cosplay was genuinely more approachable to newbies in the past. Yeah, it looked like shit, but it was more about fun and less about likes and popularity.
I miss it, i miss seeing people do what they could and encouraged for it, even if it was bad.

I think the Coronavirus will trim the fat/drain the swamp of the bloqated convention scene

>>10364642
I definitely agree with this. I remember my first con wearing a super shitty costume and everyone I approached had something nice to say. We would take pictures of each other and gush about the shows we liked.

Now it's like if you approach someone it's just a reason for them to give you a business card and try to get more likes on their instagram. The 30% rule of being friends with cosplayers seems to be in full force and no one seems to cosplay from things they like anymore, just what will be popular.

I've had friends love a show, but because the next con they're going to will be a few months away they won't cosplay it because "no one will care about it by that point, I'd have to cosplay it now while it's still running for it to matter"... and meanwhile I'm cosplaying from shows that aired in the 80s.

>>10364684
On the flip side it will cause the remaining cons to get more crowded

>>10364734
People who only cosplay from things that are "relevant" have the weakest bloodlines. That said, I think the majority of cosplayers I know are still just cosplaying based on stuff they really like whether popular or not, but the few who exclusively care about being on trend are a loud and fairly clear minority.

>>10364561
I wish there was one of those theme park "you must be this tall to ride" things for artists alleys or vendor halls. Not only for the obvious reason of keeping out kids, but in general anyone under like 5'3".
In a crowded and hectic space I don't want small people weaving between and around me - I really just don't want to hit someone with my knees when they move suddenly under eye level. It's made worse where collisions can damage cosplay parts, both mine which I would be pissed about but theirs too.

>>10364561
>If you're grossly ill-proportioned to the character your're cosplaying, then you shouldn't be cosplaying that character.

sorry, but last time i checked sasuke wasn't an obese midget.

>>10364825
Get your eyes tested

>>10364734
> it's just a reason for them to give you a business card
I don't think this is an entirely bad concept. It's like swapping usernames to find eachother on aim or something. Plus, it's nice to see the pictures people take of you and get a chance to interact with them after the con.

>>10364821
I second this. I cosplayed from an old series (and my costume was pretty shit desu, but that's because I overestimated my ability to sew at the beginner stage) and I was swarmed with people. So many people were just excited to see a series that they like and I was happy to share that excitement.

>>10366141
To add to this, I was thinking of creating a cute lil sticker for the back of my badge or a paper to attach to my badge clip for people to find my socials.

I think that not everything has to be handmade, especially if you are someone that is not good at sewing. Certainly it has it's charm but when i made my first cosplay i looked around for clothes similar to the thing i was going for and then assembled it as good as i could with some accessories!

Young (like under 20) cosplayers drive me fucking crazy. They're all just obsessed with getting more followers and more likes on their pictures that are all selfies in their room in cheap Taobao costumes. They make no real effort and just throw things on (often without proper support/undergarments) and expect to be worshipped.
The introduction of cheap, mass produced Chinese costumes has lowered the bar so much and it's fucking annoying. These kids get surprised that I make my own costumes and then scoff at me when I ask for more than $100 for a commission.
Just be regular e-thots and leave us nerds alone.

>>10366464
Any cosplayer born after 1993 can’t sew... all they know is taobao, post on patreon, instahoe, be genderspecial, eat hot chip & lie

>people cosplaying characters from Broadway musicals, especially easymodo shit like Dear Evan Hansen

>>10366141
I'm with you, I used to hate them til I realized it's just the modern 'what's your screenname' without the hassle of having to write it down.

I think that cosplayers with a following should be aware of the mentality of the fandom before cosplaying from it. Per exemple the jojo or SU fandom is full sperg and people getting involved in it should be more professional by not complaining about dummies spamming them. I feel like real pro cosplayer know that they don't have to publicly vent to the same people making their coins.

>>10364734
>I'm cosplaying from shows that aired in the 80s.

Idk what I'd be more interested in seeing. A bodacious Rainbow Brite or an accurate Inhumanoids Auger.

>>10366495
care to explain why this one gets to you? i've heard this sentiment from a few people now and I'm curious why

>>10366657
nayrt but people who cosplay from musicals tend to be theatre nerds, who are like an inch away from normie and not only are they spergs, but are also super self-centered and "not like other girls/boys"
>t. was in theatre for 3 years and couldn't stand the people

>>10366657
Nta but they’re annoying I guess. Most of them seem to be teens or younger so it’s not too bad. They just act similar to other tumblr cosplay fandoms (Steven universe, Voltron, etc).

Also, 666! Our posts are cursed!

>>10366141
>>10366497
Back before Insta, I actually printed out some cheap business cards with my screenname and DeviantArt so I could try to make con friends. My issue with the newer business cards is they're generally not trying to make a personal connection, they are used for selling their cosplayer "brand" as a business. So you can connect to a business cosplay handle, but most people aren't putting their personal handle or even a "safe" throwaway. It feels like they're not interested in making a connection as a friend, just looking for a follower.

>>10366724
>Business cards are given to promote a business

You don’t say

>>10366739
Yea, that's why it's a bad comparison to call them the modern version of swapping AIM usernames.

>>10366686
ok, that's fair and also true
>t. Theatre major. Musical theater people and #theatrekids are the worst. the only people I know who cosplay from broadway are also from my department

>>10366724
You're right that some people aren't trying to make a personal connection, but knowing that some people are just trying to get out there isn't really any skin off my back. I like finding new people to follow and watch their progress. And if I don't, I throw it away. I've never been forced to take a card, only offered, so I guess I don't feel as much pressure. This whole new tone set in the cosplay community that everything, down to individual interactions, has to be monetized is a shame though - I agree with you there. Honestly, I think I'd be more offended by a teen with a Taobao costume trying to claim fame with business cards than the average insta cosplayer. That's just me though. I think the more personal version of this is when people make a sign or have their handle written down somewhere for people to take a picture rather than distribute. Maybe that's also why it feels more personal, because its not mass produced.
One contrary example I saw was this personality who had her picture and handle on one side and a template on the other that said things like "We met at [blank] con, on this day, and we talked about this" with like a fill in the blank. It was a good way to actually remember someone. That seems a lil extra for the average Joe but it was an interesting concept.

>>10366779
Honestly, I still think my comparison can but not always be applied but I respect that you see it differently.

Normies are crazier than weebs
Even the most autistic of weebs make an effort to learn or at least fuck off. But normies just... don't.

>>10366967
Its true. Prior to normies being more active on the internet (which they started to thanks to facebook)the internet was more active and fun. The internet was oddly less edgy than it is now.

>>10366977
it was edgy but in a more joking way. like i remember even places like /b/ being tolerable back in it's griefing days. now people are either edgy in an unironic way, or to try to piss sjws off.

>>10366686
>implying theater nerds and cosplay nerds don't have a lot of crossover personality wise

>>10366989
This
Same with cringey things. To normies anything even slightly odd is “cringe”. And anyone who isn’t leaving ass kissing comments is a “troll”.

>>10366967
Normies ruined fandom.While it's nice that things are more accessible now, fandom spaces were just so much better back in the day.

>>10366967
>>10366977
>>10366989
>summed it up beautifully
>screenshotted
nothing to add. 2010 were simpler times.

>>10366686
>I hate people who pretend theyre not like the other girls, except for me, because I'm not like the other girls

Here's a spicy take:

Minority cosplayers demanding guest/showcase spots because they are minorities need to get blacklisted for being insufferable piss-babies.

Buying a cosplay off the internet and putting on a jheri-curl wig and then demanding large/pro cosplay accounts shill for them or else they're racist should be met with nothing but middle fingers from everyone in the community.

>>10366977
>thanks to facebook
myspace*

>>10366989
/b/ is unbelievably boring now

>>10367132
craftchella..

I kinda hate how in cosplay contests, you pretty much have to make a Sakizou to win best in show. I find most of the designs over-elaborate and busy, and it shouldn't boil down to how many beads and pearls you can hand-stitch onto fabric. Thankfully this trend is starting to die down but it's still ridiculous.

>>10367132
I hate it when people get lazy on those type of cosplay because it could look super great if they put more thoughts in the design ( saw years ago a cloud with 6 poor droopy wool dread locks instead of some big hair )

>>10367179
I was literally thinking about this when I read that post. Sure, it wasn't the best look to have only white and light skinned people on the cast but people are acting like it's RACIST that they didn't reach out to black people when the event was on a volunteer basis. A missed opportunity, sure, but it's not like people were being denied spots. It could've been something great for everyone and it just got shit on to infinity. i'm curious to check out how zenithcon does but 1) it's a stupid fucking name 2) I HIGHLY doubt it's going to be half as good as craftchella because it was made creatively and not off inspiration to be better than the other.

>>10367190
As someone who only sees competitions from the outside, I always wonder what a winning costume actually looks like. These days it seems like 'bigger and better' (like Saizoku) wins the race, but that surely isn't what makes a well crafted costume everytime. It would be great to incorporate more categories and more criteria that is clear and consistent.

>>10367306
I've only judged a little bit myself but I haven't come across a Sakizou yet. I think what gets other judges is that there is so much embellishment involved in that kind of costume that it's very easy to hide sewing sins (wonky hem? glue tons of lace and pearls to it!), so they don't get caught in judging, and the flashiness stays with judges when it comes time to deliberate. So it becomes about how much patience/money you have to over-embellish the costume, which isn't fair compared to a costume that doesn't necessarily take that much time but is much more technically impressive.

It warms my heart when cosplayers like Sarah Silverman poop out an over-embellished costume filled with obvious structural errors and odd design choices and whine when they don't get that automatic Best in Show they were expecting.

>>10367324
Sarah Spaceman, sorry.

>>10367136
Myspace was full of teens at the time and college students who brought their own brand of crazy.
Facebook is full of soccer moms.

Its not cosplay related (forgive me) but id rather say it around non-lolitas.
I legit think lolita is sort of cultish.
>factions all over the world
>if you do not follow the rules that (at minimum) your faction has, it leads to you getting shunned and often publicly disgraced online
>if you try to join the online community which has stricter rules, you have much higher chances of becoming a leader, but much higher chances of being picked apart by the community
>there used to be a day of a week dedicated to tearing those who made mistakes down
>when doing sales exchanges everyone follows this dumb kawaii script
>it is considered normal and even admirable to have a shrine dedicated to Mana or Misako
>unhealthy habits like spending all your money on clothing obsessively are praised
>lolitas who are involved with the community are the most unsufferable motherfuckers out there

>>10366530
Lol, yeah. I like Black Butler but I will never be caught dead cosplaying anyone from it.

>>10366686
I can see that. They probably also 'roleplay' innappropriatly in public and whine when people get upset at their acting skillz.

>>10366938
They probably mean the ones who pretend to be interested in you until you fail to get 20 of your friends to follow their page.

Its is what it is but don't bait me with niceness because you suck at actual networking.

>people who cosplay as the Coronavirus once con season comes back in full swing and this whole ordeal is over
Those people can fuck right off

>>10367343
I'm so thankful to be a literal who that never has to worry about people acting like that towards me. Disgusten.

>>10367327
>>10367324
She's such an odd spot for me. I like to watch her sewing progress but god does she overdo everything to the max. The face glitter never looks good, the sick nose never looks good (she's lucky that got popular), and like you said wild ass design choices with clashing textures and embellishments. It's like a hate follow. I hate how heavily she defends her choices against valid criticisms and how much people lick her boots about it.

>>10367379
There's a cosplayer in my area who is similar to Sarah, but not quite as extreme and they thankfully don't have such a big ego. They rush to complete costumes and enter every contest they can, which often results in sloppy work and flat out inappropriate design decisions (for example, using fleece for a military uniform???). I've heard this person say that their modus operandi is to put as many techniques as possible into an outfit that just come across to me as unnecessary. They win a lot due to the sheer amount of contests they enter so what's to stop them from believing that's the secret to success?

>>10367132
Is this the Craftchella drama?

>>10367406
> (for example, using fleece for a military uniform???)
its mental illness luv

>>10367304

I have a friend who's volunteering to organize both. Craftchella took all responders and didn't realize they were all light skinned (a couple Asians and a couple latinas) until the picture got made, after they did their schedule. Dumb to post the picture but an easy mistake if you take everybody without background checking them.

Zenithcon organizers have never used twitch but want to do a masquerade, a game tourney, and a digital AA, all with no organizing experience. It sounds like a shit show.

>>10367406
Circling back to my point, having these types of people winning contests just fuels that idea to use any and every embellishment, technique, and fabric.

>>10367376
Pretty much. I actually work to avoid people and their 'product' if they are very overtly like this. I don't like that kind of disingenuous behavior

Some food for thought, or thot lol.

But is this how incels feel when they find out their e-waifu is actually someones IRL waifu, or just generally a lie.

I get that you have to have something interesting to 'market' but theres stories of gaggles of beta orbiters getting ghosted by e-thots once they get found out. Just to wash and repeat with a new set of subscribers.

No, she wasn't honestly flirting with you. And that couple hundred you sent 'your' online GF so she can get her cosplay Instagram going is getting spent on more lube and buttplugs for some faceless chad to demolish her with.

Personally I find that kind of bait and switch a little more insidious, more money is involved. Its just cat-fishing with extra steps.

>>10367419
Kudos to your friend for not backing out while understanding that there can be growth. I find it funny that the community which calls for apologies and growth all of the time was unwilling to accept an apology from Craftchella.

>Zenithcon organizers have never used twitch
I wish I could say I'm even an ounce surprised but I'm not. One of the main organizers who announced the name went on an astrology-esque rant about how zenith relates to the cause and I was immediately turned off to the idea as a whole.

>>10367406
God, this reminds me of a girl in our group (co-ed) that was tagging in last minute for a group cosplay.

Most of us were in some form of simple kinono or yukata. Hakuoki if you are curious. Very, VERY simple designs. Pretty much everything can be found at a Joanns. One guy had some issues with his wig and it took a second for us to find swords that were con safe but not cheap pieces of shit. Very minumal issues, easy group cosplay. Took me two days to sew pic related.

Or so we thought.

First off she had to pic one of the most intensly designed characters to cosplay (Kaoru Nagumo), as someone who has never cosplayed before, but one that techincally has two costumes. And she wanted to do both, because she wanted to change halfway through the day into the other one.

Okay I can appriciate the effort but slow down there.

No, how dare I question if she can get it done. It's her dream to do this cosplay.

Okay, don't cry to me when your stitch witchery ends up on the stake.

Cont.

>>10367431

She made a big deal about being one of the only one of us to have a completely 100% homemade cosplay, shit all over us for the couple things we bought. Like wigs and props. Wouldn't accept any help unless it was to sit there and kiss her ass. When some of us did come over to hang and work on her costume (as hers was the only one not done) she just turned it into a live stream roast about us and how awesome she is and how we flock to her for everything. By the way, can we follow her on her new Insta. K, Thaxs, luv u.

Heres a list of things going on with her costume
>No wig
>Print and cut painted polypropylene pp sword, folded in half (its a feature not a bug lol)
>Worbla buttons
>Worbla hair pin
>Attempted worbla sheath (she really likes the idea of worbla for tiny fragile designs)
>Hand dip dyed kimono with just powder dye and room temp water, no addatives. Not even salt.
>Outdoor spray paint (not fabic paint) for kimono designs
>"I'll just use hair extensions and some spray for the geisha hair lol"
>Cursed anime eye makeup
>When changing from a girl to a guy just did really REALLY heavy contour under the cheeks, thats it. Left the eye makeup. Took out extensions and brushed her hair with her fingers.

Turns out it was a ploy. Shes trans, or so she says (FtM). And this cosplay is very important for her as shes using it to come out. But not really. Because shes still a girl and only wants us to refer to 'him' when they are dressed as a little asian boy.

You can guess how this played out.

She didn't have fun and it was everyone elses fault.

Pretty sure shes on the spectum with a case of NPD to go with it.

Everytime people say "OMG group ___ is eltist!" often ignore how often they shun people and sticking to their own social groups.

>>10367482
This. It is obnoxious how many local cosplayers are like this around me. Going on rants on their Instagram stories about how people are elitist, then act like elitist snobs themselves irl. If you aren’t in their clique then you ain’t shit

>>10367482
The people who say "x is elitist" for... having a friend group? Alright I guess

I dislike the "it's cosplsy not cosaccurate" bullshit. It's really just an excuse to have a bad exucution. I can understand if it's a change of shoes or design that doesn't attract away from what it originally was. Basically over sexualizing or anything of the sort is just plain annoying.

>>10367414
The entire month of February had the same attitude.

>>10367431
>>10367444
My maybe unpopular opinion; if someone’s in your cosplay group and they are a shitty person or don’t have the right skills then kick them out. You shouldn’t have let them join in in the first place.

>>10366992
They don't. That's the thing.

>>10364825
your height has nothing to do with your clumsiness and tendency to crash into people. You just genuinely lack social and bodily awareness. Also you wanted to flex that you're tall. Congratulations! Now stop blaming people when you bump into them.

>>10367625
yess I hate this so much. The only time I find this argument acceptable is when it's a newb/casual cosplayer who can't find the perfect shoes or when it adds interest (I once saw a cosplayer use a nice brocade instead of solid fabric and it looked really good)

>>10367875
>>10367625
You bring up a good topic. So let's discuss what bad interpretation and good interpretation looks like

I'm always game for adding straps or buttons to shit that physics just doesn't allow irl. And sensible but matching shoes.

>>10367877
A good rule of thumb I think is generally that adding more detail that wasn't in a design can always work (up to a certain extent where it can look too busy) but making changes that remove detail or elements from a costume is what causes it to look unintentional or lazy.

>>10367304
Honestly after watching the first day, it was obvious who prepared and was much more involved and who really didn't give a shit but still entered after all the reorganization. I understand it's tight on schedule if you weren't planning before, but at least try or you're wasting a spot...

>>10367793
We did. Last con we went to with her and she lost a lot of social clout. Like 1 orbiter stayed around.

>>10367877
I like adding my personal touch, sometimes I love a character but some aspect of the design is just unflattering, or a simplification made for technical reasons really doesn't need to be made in an actual garment. There's always a degree of interpretation needed because I'm not an anime character, I exist in a 3D space, I need to put seams somewhere, a piece of chiffon won't stay flowy and light if I put a lot of beading and embroidery at the bottom, I need to see where I'm going, so on and so forth.
I'd say the rules of good interpretation are based on the rules of good character design: a silhouette that's clear and matches the character is important, if you don't have a good base silhouette under embellishments or you put too much stuff on top and obscure it, it won't look as good as a simple garment that has a good silhouette and fits correctly. Similar thing for color, adding accents is fine if you keep good color proportions, a character with a mostly blue outfit will not read well if you add too much gold or white, or too many different colors.
And you have to keep in mind the personality of the character you're portraying, over-embellishing the outfit of a character who's very poor, very practical or sporty isn't really a good fit, but doing the same to a character who is very flamboyant and ostentatious works better.

>>10367912
I think that's a good point. I've made that point a lot when talking about gajinkas because you want to retain familiarity through detail

>>10367913
I had a feeling that would happen. It's cool that it was volunteer based, but also literally who gives a shit about what some of these people have to say.

>>10368005
Excellent addition, anon. I've had the seams problem before. I was putting myself into a fit trying to figure out how and where to add seams that wouldn't look obtrusive because the character's outfit had none.

I think one problem I see a lot, especially on instragram, is people thinking that rhinestones are the end all be all perfect touch even when the character's outfit had none and doesn't look like it should have any.

>>10368116
Rhinestoning is fun and easy that's why people do it. Like the fast food of sewing

Figuring out how to hide or eliminate seams in a pattern is that gourmet shit

Cosplaying from popular media is just more fun for the average congoer! The worst cons I’ve been to were the ones where I had people asking me who I was every 5 minutes, or worse, saying ‘are you x version of [fad character]?’

When you cosplay from a popular series you can go to a huge group photoshoot, meet people who are into the same nerd shit you are, and you’re guaranteed to be doing the character better than at least one other person.

>>10368127
I think that the criticism against cosplaying a flavor of the month isn't that everyone should be unique and obscure, but that some people who chose to cosplay a fotm, by their own admission, haven't even watched the show.

>>10368157
This. If you like said franchise and it's also popular, that's one thing, it's another to cosplay shit you haven't even watched or read or played just because you want attention. It's also annoying IMO how certain characters always get gravitated to, if you're gonna do current big mainstream fandom perhaps choose a more uncommon character instead of being the 1000th main protag I've seen today.

>>10364561
Despite often looking poor and being unnecessary: Applying makeup to change your skin color to another real skin color is not necessarily racist even though the history was.

>>10368157
>>10368390
I feel like it also especially hurts when it's a niche series that you really love since cosplayers would already be rare to begin with. One of my least favorite con memories is running into an Ar tonelico cosplayer who had never played the games and worse, had no interest in doing so. She only cosplayed the character because she liked the design. I can try to respect that, but my excitement of seeing her died pretty much instantly since I wasn't able to have much of a conversation about a series I was passionate about at all. It was just saddening and disheartening.

>>10368567

Yeah it's sorta sad and I always try to look up the series a character is from and learn more about them if I ever have the urge to cosplay or draw fanart "just" because the design is cool because I'd feel like a poser if I didn't at least learn more about the character. Plus character designs are often a function of or determined by their backstory or skills and seeing how their personality inspires the visuals is always cool even if it just means reading a fan wiki or playing a few hours of a game or a few episodes of an anime.

>>10368546
>getting a tan
That’s fine. It’s still your natural skin

>using make up to become a wildly darker skin color
Not fine. You’re wearing someone else’s race as a costume

>>10369042
race is not skin color.

>>10369045
This is a fucking galaxy brain take if I've ever seen one.

>>10369054
lol sorry that you drank the sjw koolaid but go off.

>>10369055
Don't choke on that red pill you swallowed raw

>>10369042
A costume does not begin and end with clothing. If hair color and style (wigs) can be part of a costume skin can too. It can be solely about replicating a character's visual appearance.

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>>10367304
Sorry to drag this up days late, but you know that the same crowd would have been complaining if some big name white cosplayer reached out to black/dark skinned cosplayers asking them to do free work lmaooo

>>10364567
Unpopular cosplay opinion:
I fucking hate ballgown cosplays. They always try too hard and half of them are just memes (like the spongebob boulder one)

>>10365469
More people need to hear this.

>>10369196
Damned if they did, damned if they didn't.

>>10367132
I hate it when they complain about their sub par cosplays not getting enough likes and think it's because of racism lmao. Like, it's totally not because you look like garbage.
Twitter is full of that shit.

>>10369170
>It can be solely about replicating a character's visual appearance

No it can’t. You don’t live in a vacuum. You can’t escape historical and cultural context no matter how much you want to. But go ahead and wear blackface so you can become the social pariah you deserve to be

>>10369909
Right, I'm not saying people can't wear blackface, if you really want to do it I can't stop you, but people will be upset at you, and people, companies and events can refuse to associate with you. Your call.

>>10369939
>>10369909
stop using the term blackface like that. it diminishes the real meaning.

>>10369973

>>10367132
>>10369844

The craftchella fiasco is proof of how stupid these demands are. The community only cared about a bunch of craftsmanship streams when they could shit on or harass the cosplayers involved under the guise of supporting black/plus sized/disabled cosplayers. But when they dropped the original panelists and changed to pic related? Not a peep of support for that majority of unknown POCs.

When the community cries outrage it's never really about altruism and support especially if people other than you end up benefiting from it.

background checks for volunteers and organizers, but mostly cosplay guests. Peods, harassers, doxxers and the like should be shunned like this

>>10369983
not bait. only 15 year old sjws think that "blackface" only refers to coloring your skin.

>>10370715
race is fake anyway. Oh wait, that's also racist for them.
Can't wait for cosplay to die and be reborn

>>10369045
>>10369055
These are the kinds of people who think blackface is still funny

The cosplay culture/scene/community in itself is the same level as beauty pageants at this point. It doesn't matter where you're from, who you are, big cosplay scene or small, whether you do it for fun or professionally. Sooner or later you're bound to be fucked in some kind of beauty peagant-tier bullshit.

I say unpopular because everytime I say this I'm met with something like "oh it's nothing like that". But the more I think about it the more I find similarities.

Do you know how often I imagine cosplay drama that could just be aired literally the same as TLC's beauty pageants show? Just need motherfucking JNig as Honey Boo Boo herself.

>>10370816
but blackface is funny! The more people do it, the saltier SJWs get.

Which is the main point of it nowadays.

>>10371136
this is what happens when you have women in a community. add incels to the mix and it's even worse.
not even trolling

>>10365469

meh, that doesnt bother me if they aren't doing/bitching about things that require a slightly more objective evaluation, like entering costume contests and bitching about weight discrimination.

>>10364561

skill in costume construction or wearing them gives you absolutely no additional qualification beyond others to make commentary on fashion or others fashionableness.

>>10371373
Absolutely agree. Weebs, cosplayers, and lolitas usually have horrific taste in proper fashion.

>>10371373
Ooo interesting opinion

>>10369042
so....no dark elves unless you're already black?

The "official" part of cosplay masquerades are a joke. At least at the large con in my region most of the best costumes don't even enter because it wastes such a large part of your day. Then you have some square that turns their nose up to all the people who enjoy partying/raving who prides themselves on their Intermediate Masquerade Accomplishment like that has any value whatsoever. They usually take pride it in as a coping mechanism for their lack of sudden popularity/virality on insta etc.

>tfw those that are thinking that cons are probably gonna cancel from getting Corona’d (especially AX and SDCC) are most likely weebs/geeks that got laid off due to this epidemic and can’t afford to go to them anymore
You must be pettier than Taylor Swift if that’s the case

>>10371735
>At least at the large con in my region most of the best costumes don't even enter because it wastes such a large part of your day.
Texas, right?

If you are under the age of 16 you should be accompanied by an adult to cons.
It's too big of a trend to see children scream in large groups with cat ears, flower crowns and gay flags as capes giving a bad rep to polite people, hopefully with an adult there to rangle them it would calm down.
Also for safety.

>>10371720
Dark Elves have a wide range of black skin. You're either a range of brown that is black person skin tone range or grey-ish which isn't anyone's skin tone. The brown is the problem area. Nobody gives a fuck if you do grey.

I find that many cosplay pages share the same people again and again and again with minimal variety in posts. It makes for a boring showcase. The Art of Cosplay FB page is notorious for this. Same white, female cosplayers, in 80% less clothing constantly being posted. They should just change their name to The Art of Sexy White Cosplay.

>>10366530
It's why I've been so conflicted to cosplay SBR now.

Honestly, I don't want to anymore cause of how crazy and drama-filled the western jojo fanbase is these days. It gets worse and worse as it goes on

>>10370705
This needs to happen yesterday. You got a lot of these creeps playing the grooming game with these young ones with low self esteem issues. They won't go after the confident cosplayer who has her body proudly on display. But they'll sure as shit take advantage of that shy chubby high school otaku girl with attachment issues.

Only white an asian people should be allowed to cosplay and we should all verbally abuse niggers and spics who dress up at cons.

If you truly care about your cosplay, you'll exercise and shape your body according to the characters.

If you're playing a shounen character or superhero: hit the damn weight room.

Playing a slim character? At least lose enough weight not to be OVERweight.

You don't need to look perfect but you need to at least make a damn effort. Cosplay isn't just about crafting and dressing up - fitness is just an integral part of embodying a character.

There is nothing on this earth more cringe than a skinnyfat wearing a foam muscle suit.

>>10368546
>not necessarily racist even though the history was.

Even the best intentions cannot separate skin painting from it's history connotations. This is like saying flying a Confederate flag isn't racist: "just the history"

>>10372303
What if I'm a tiny skelly female and love my 2d giant muscle thicc husbando so much I want to cosplay him out of love for him? Why can't I cosplay my own version? You expect me to take steroids and gender transition for a cosplay?
Why is my dedication and love any less because of my biological attributes?

This isn't even my case btw, just an example. If you want another, Imagine the character I want to cosplay is an unrealistic halfling/gnome, am I supposed to cry I wasn't born a midget? Get surgery and shorten my limbs?

I understand your point of view and kind of agree actually, but I also wanted to play devil's advocate on this.

>>10373321
I think the anon is mostly referring to the extreme sides of the spectrum, the most common being, overweight woman and skelly men cosplaying the total opposite of thier characters bodytype.
Personally i dont mind aslong as your clothes fit you, you're wearing the correct undergarments (thick tights/dancers belt/safety shorts) and you're not delusional enough that you know you're not as ripped as All Might.
I will agree that muscle suits on skinnyfat cosplayers look awful and i'm yet to see a good one. Imo cosplay as a great way to stay on track of a diet if you REALLY want to look good/like the character of choice.
Undergarments can do so much for cosplayers but i feel like it's mostly unknown knowledge? the amount of spider man dicks and obese cottage cheese i see at cons is out of this world

I can't stand Hannah Alexander-type designs. They're all just covered in ruffles and frills and shit that half the time you can't even tell what character they're supposed to be. People also think they're hot shit just for making them.
Same as Sakizo desu

>>10374358
Sometimes they can be far removed from the source material. I think some of her designs work better than others desu. I like her Aqua.

>>10364825
maybe instead there should be an upper height limit enforced via a small door and people tall enough to hit another person with their knees while walking shouldn't be allowed

>>10374358
Me too. I hate how overdesigned and busy they are. I tried to pick a Sakizou for myself to make to fall in with the cool crowd but couldn't find one that wasn't ugly. You pretty much have to be a deer-legged waif for those designs to look good on you. But they win contests so competitive cosplayers will continue to make them.

>>10366491
eat strawberry pocky*

>>10374496
i can always crouch, but have fun in those 16" heels trying to reach the lower height barrier, gobbo

I kinda like those cringe as retarded teenagers shouting names, within limits.

They look like they're having a good time, and I might be a little jealous but it warms my heart to see children having fun.

>>10374742
I feel this. I wish I had half the confidence that my teenage self had. I was so bold and unapologetic when I was with my friends. Now we're all scattered to the wind and fear crept in.

>>10374769
>>10374742
My general line of thought is so long as they're not obstructive, destructive, or inappropriate then a some cringe is fine. I wish they would use inside voices even when outside though.

>>10364561
I actually like seeing titty cosplays by pretty girls. But too many people make it weird from tryhard costhots to autistic perverts.

>>10371954
Agree with this 100%. Not only can they get annoying, but it’s also really unsafe. We all know this community is full of major creeps. I cannot tell you how many times I’ve seen minors, even just in my local community posting about a creepy older man following them around a con and trying to lure them somewhere else. Or they become friends with an older man and at first they seem normal, but later it turns out he was just slowly grooming them. Parents need to get their shit together. If your kid isn’t old enough to drive to the con, then they shouldn’t be there unsupervised.

>>10371962
That’s what happens when a middle aged white neckbeard runs a page dedicated to 3D girls dressed as his waifus

>>10364825
Bigger

>>10367190
THIS they're so ugly and usually the cosplayers in question use the designs as a way to cover dodgy tailoring with rhinestones

>>10371136
I mean that's basically what did happen with Heroes of Cosplay and it was wildly entertaining laughing at the up jumped cos thots

People that walk around cons blasting shitty music need to get their badges clipped.

Congoers who obsess about English VAs aren't really anime fans; they're more like /co/ than /a/. Vic Mignogna's fanbase is the best example as to why this is. I really shouldn't need to explain further.

>10375231
God I miss Heroes of Cosplay. That show ridiculous but it was so fun to watch.
I can't find it available for streaming unfortunately.

>>10375231
I actually kind of miss heroes of cosplay for the sole reason that it gave everyone in the community a reason to come together and hate the same thing

>>10375594
Same, if you distance it from cosplay in general and watch it like those overdramatic pageant life "documentaries"/reality shows it's a fun guilty pleasure watch

>>10366967
>>10366977
>>10367013
>>10367016
Before more normies started coming in, everyone would know that it was supposed to be a joke or a troll post when you mentioned/recommended Boku no Pico or something. Normies don't get it though.

I saw someone cosplaying as Pico online, and for what it was, it was a really good yet really funny cosplay! So I mentioned that, but then a bunch of normies started calling me and the cosplayer pedophiles.

I've been in the anime fandom for close to all my life, so I explained that Boku no Pico has almost always jokingly been an anime rite of passage and a meme. However, the normies didn't want to hear it no matter how many other oldfags backed up the claim. It was just weird. To jump to conclusions like that though... I do also like how things are more accessible now because of the normies, but I feel like a lot of normies aren't willing to understand the fandom culture they jumped into and just want to hijack it instead (and pretend that they've always been here). I dunno.

>>10364567
She should have done a bell bag as a bag.

>>10375595
Anyone who does competitive cosplay loved it, the dramas are just so real

>>10375231
I watched it but I don’t remember anything but a girl who had a white curly wig and needed it to be orange, so she hand dyed every strand by drawing on them with a sharpie.

>>10375748
It’s zoomers and left leaning people that are like this.

>>10375818
Becky. That girl was the worst sort of competitive cosplayer, one of those that believes they need to BECOME the character while having their male friend make everything

>>10376323
Was it her who bothered her roommate to make the rose cannon for her and was pissed that it wasn't as cool as she envisioned? I can't remember who that was

>>10372303
Same actually goes for thin people cosplaying as fat characters. Fat suits almost always look wonky.

I think getting paid to do cosplay and attend cons is a huge privilege that you should be grateful for.
This being said, I can no longer stand these cosplayers bitching and whining how their events are getting cancelled like they are entitled to it and above everyone.

Even if you're doing this for a living and depend on it, at least you could have some notion of how much of a privilege it is and how much of a whiny cunt you sound complaining when people are dying, others desperate to find a job, others working hard essential wagecuck jobs and so on. Not to mention y'all get "donations" for sitting on your ass from your simps. Where does that money go?
>oh this is so hard staying home all dayyy
>I can't go to cons boo hoooooo
>I wanna go out and partyyyy wahhh
>oh no I have to change my dieeettt
>oh no I can't go to the gymmm
>oh no I have to change my sleeping scheeeduuule
>wahhhh please donate you guuuuuuyyys

Again, getting paid to cosplay and go to cons is a PRIVILEGE.
You should always be ready for it to fail and have a side job or a plan B. Go to McDonalds, sell your asshole, whatever, but don't take your job granted and stop complaining. How self-centered can you be?

Pic very related.

>>10376531
Completely agree with you anon.

>>10376531
Leon Chiro is a known piece of shit, a serial harasser, and hell to handle as a guest. None of this surprises me and the only reason he keeps getting invited to cons is because he's a hot cis guy.

>>10376784

Almost all "cosplay guests" are shitty to handle. They all think they're actual celebrities and treat the con staff like shit

>>10376826
A lot are, but most are not on the same level as Leon Chiro. I know at least one convention will not invite him unless they bring a second person to "handle" him when he has an inevitable meltdown.

>>10376852
What kind of proof is there of him being bad? I've heard occasional stories on forums but I've never actually seen any real evidence of him being bad.

>>10364561
For the record i hate when people get angry over others darkening their skin tone for a cosplay. Theyre replicating the character not the culture.

>>10376784
Also never credits other people that he works with like photographers or commissioners even when asked.

>>10376864
You won't find more than stories because his staff harassment, ego, and habit of touching women happens in person. He's not the kind of person who shitposts online.

IIRC Lisa Lou Who and others actually called out his inappropriate grabbing in 2018 but it never got traction because everyone always defends it with "Italians are just like that". I can't find the thread but someone mentioned it on PULL along with other drama

https://prettyuglylittleliar.net/topic/10553-leon-chiro/

>>10376864
What >>10376981 said. It's hard to get evidence when it happens in person. he's the kind of person that rarely talks through texting as well

I wasn't staff, but I'm a little close with some of them, and at a convention near me last year where he guested, it was hell.
He didn't listen to orders and was very uncooperative, he was constantly on his phone, he ignored people, he NEVER showed up on time, at one point he went missing completely and was found messing around playing video games on the con (no joke)... in the end, because of this, all of the days, there were huge lines and delays because of him, fans crying and complaining because they couldn't see him, and through all this he had such a diva bitchy attitude. Then he claims to be so good and humble and it's the staff's fault.
I think he can be an ok guy but he's very immature and selfish and needs to grow up. I mean
>28 years old
>likes being called daddy
>vapes
yikes

>>10376981
>he's not the kind of person who shitposts online
More and more he's becoming more active though, and last time I heard he's admitted to some things on his Twitch livestreams. I wish someone would compile it and start calling him out. But unfortunately he will always get defended anyway so w/e

>>10376993
>I think he can be an ok guy but he's very immature and selfish and needs to grow up.
To be frank, there are a shitload of 28-35 year old millennial dudes that are still stuck in 2007 mentally. Their midlife crisis
is going to be something to behold.

>>10376864
When Leon came to our con he legit told staff he will not listen to any woman in any position of power. Lmao

>>10367336
>reposting your retarded opinion in a place no one cares because you're incapable of defending it
pls

>>10367875
details like brocade fabric can make a cosplay look more "real"(???) and i think it's often an improvement. it prevents the overly flat/cheap look that cosplay can easily end up with.

>>10375818
idk anon, there are definitely right leaning normie guys who are a total blight on geeky hobbies. it's always degenerates this and faggots that with them. being a stupid normie knows no political lines, it's just them being disconnected from the culture and going on the offensive instead of trying to understand when they're missing something.

>>10376876
i agree overall, but i've certainly seen it done in tone-deaf ways that do genuinely approach blackface. it's a problem when people mindlessly criticize some poor bitch with a spray tan with the same vitriolic intensity that they criticize someone walking around with an actual shoop da whoop face for a character meant to be black.

>>10377008
They've somewhat just frozen in their interests. Never really moved on from wearing that Legend of Zelda shirt and playing pokemon.

>>10364561
Fuck costume changes. I'm sick and tired of seeing some balloon bulky ass Cinderella gown get pulled off badly into the ballgown that we all anticipated because the tulle was falling out the back of the dress. When they're done well, they're great. But costume changes in contests usually mean a cringey performance when the quickchange fails, along with two inaccurate badly made costumes that will be marked down.

>>10376479
True
>>10373321
If it's a very specific take or spin on a character, like an unconventional interpretation, then that's totally fine! But chubby or fat people cosplaying slim characters is pure cringe. If you love the character: lose some weight. It isn't complicated. Same goes for super skinny guys trying to go for superhero or shounen type characters. If you don't hit the weight room, it's gonna look cringe.

>>10377040
>not understanding lolita is a cult is a copypasta and this is the third time its been posted now

>>10377040
>reposting
check the timestamp retard. I'm pretty sure its just a copypasta anyway.

>>10366464
>The introduction of cheap, mass produced Chinese costumes has lowered the bar so much and it's fucking annoying.
They are a godsend for those of use who use cosplay in the bedroom. The ali express specials are passable if you just want a quick fuck of your favorite azur lane or touhou girl. I have had good experiences with a few, but the one black cheongsam tamamo dress turned out surprisingly nice and it came with a giant fluffy tail and it cost next to nothing.

Pic related was my latest order, but I am really just repurposing the dress and wig for a corona-chan outfit. Sadly the outfit wont arrive until june or so due to huge shipping delays from china.

So yea, the cheap chinese outfits I treat the same as those cheap French maid or pvc nurse fetish outfits they sell at sex shops.

>>10381015
please don't post any pics of it online. They will come for you.

>>10381015
>wearing a corona-chan outfit in the bedroom
Yikes

>>10381042
Exactly, please do post pictures online and provide us entertainment

>>10381042
a socal photographer posted on facebook asking for an asian female to help him take corona-chan photos. he got eviscerated and tried to double down on it. he then shut down his facebook accounts, instagram, photography business website, and yelp page. he only used a partial name for his public accounts but people found his full name and home address too. right now is a bad time to be posting edgelord corona stuff.

>>10381104
Damn I feel bad for the dude

>>10370816
Unpopular opinion, there were many genuinely talented minstrel performers, and if someone could do a decent job of it I wouldn't hate seeing a cosplay from "The Jazz Singer."

>>10381109
it's a good thing he's not able to get any business to begin with due to the shelter orders. dude should have just deleted his post instead of trying to defend it because that's when people got on his ass

>>10381109
I don't

play stupid games, win stupid prizes

>>10381120
>quoting the annoying bitch who said that on his status

stop

>>10381133
That phrase has been around for at least a decade

>>10381135
it's in the cap that's going around, anon don't be dense.

The real problem with costhoting is the porn induced ED it causes, although I doubt costthots care since they probably don't want to put up with their boyfriends begging them for sex anyway.

>>10381141
I haven't seen the cap but I've known about the phrase for a while. That's what I mean.

brands that try to cash on the corona crisis by selling barely functional face masks shouldn't get any support

>>10381163
Agree so much with this.

What's even worse is I've seen a few cosplayers "fundraise" or accept hundreds (or in one case thousands) of dollar donations to make masks, and then they just stop posting updates or claim they're too busy to make them now.

>>10364561
I hate some of these stupid Tiktok cosplay videos and I won't jump onto the hype train just because we are all in lockdown

Fuck niggers

>>10381299
>unpopular opinions

>>10381293
Side mouth always makes me giggle. Ahegao is max cringe and can gladly go tho

>>10381293
What is even funnier is tiktok users refer to themselves as "artists".

>>10381429
I'm out of the loop. What the fuck is "side mouth"?

>>10381685
Top right, I'm assuming. When they stretch their mouth to one side?

>>10381686
Oh I see. Didn't realize that was a trend, then again I don’t do tiktok.

I don't understand how you get your mouth to that in the first place

>>10381151
>idiot men develop crippling porn addictions so bad their dicks stop working
>the costhots did this!!! on purpose!!!
i'm not so sure about that anon

>>10381151
That's your fault not theirs

>>10381687
It's like if the corner of your mouth got caught on a fish hook

>>10369042
So no orcs either?

>>10377184
they're my hobbies and I like them, why should I change them just because I'm older?

>>10381694
im not trying to pull all the blame off the dudes but society at large has normalized porn consumption to such a degree that its hard for someone to realize how damaging it is to consume until its ruined you, and even then some people cant realize what the problem is.

>>10382801
this desu I need to block pornhub but I know that won't help.

also those jewie fucks keep trying to throw bbc into my rotation, dumb niggers

>>10382801
no, i agree with you that it's deeply ingrained in culture and it's probably invisible to a lot of people due to normalization. i just think it's ridiculous to blame a systemic issue like that on a group of women who are basically a niche within a niche. cosplay camgirls aren't exactly central to the discussion.

>>10382804
jesus christ i feel empathy for you worthless bastards for 5 fucking seconds and then you just have to step in and shatter the illusion. thanks a lot.

>>10382809
why would you have empathy for coomers in the first place tho?

>>10382817
because porn and actual porn addiction have been hugely normalized and the age of exposure is getting lower and lower, but it turns out that the right response is to take them at face value since they'll very likely never have the introspection necessary to stop being absolute shitlords. absolutely infuriating. for fuck's sake i hate them.

>>10382823
No I do have the introspection to stop being a cooming shitlord but why would I want to? I was 10 when I started watching porn, some lesbians bumping monkeys was the like title or some shit.

I mean honestly I know it's supposed to be "an issue" but not consuming porn literally won't change anything. Actually I've had to go several months without being able to fap or watch porn and all that happened was I was horny literally 24/7 with a semi chub at all times. This makes it very awkward to be around family when all you have are gym shorts.

Like honestly why would I stop? Better erections? Who cares I'm not trying to fuck anyone anyways, even if you know I had willing partners or the motivation to find them. I'm honestly the least depressed I've ever been in my life.

I'm honestly glad I can just turn on a video, nut, then go about my business because spending every waking hour for literally years trying to find someone was fucking exhausting and exceptionally damaging to my mental health.

Being a simp or fuckboy is worse for you than just being a lonely degen coomer.

>>10382828
oof, I need to read more I said honestly way too much.

>>10382828
what response were you hoping to elicit? you misogynistic pieces of shit waxing poetic about your emotional support porn only makes me find you more despicable. you're tone deaf, stupid, and cause me to regret my previous attempts at trying to find the smallest glimmer of humanity in you pathetic little fucks. how about you find your way back to whatever god awful containment board you managed to seep your way out of and get right back to spreading that sweet porn spackle over your mental and emotional inadequacy.

>>10382841
>misogynistic
What exactly about me is misogynistic? That I like porn? Also emotional support porn?? lol, how'd you manage that conclusion? I was honestly hoping you'd engage in conversation instead of just frothing at the mouth with insults. I'm honestly surprised you didn't call me an incel.

For the record I treat actual women like normal fucking people, because I can tell the difference between a setting with online jokes and dealing with real people in social situations.

I admittedly am exceptionally lacking in emotional intelligence but I'm not entirely sure that's my fault exactly. Implying that it is, is blaming the autistic kid for being autistic. I'm simply a product of my environment the same as you and if being emotionally intelligent means you lash out at strangers on the internet for no actual reason then I'll stay retarded thanks.

Seek help anon, that kind of reaction isn't normal or healthy.

>>10382856
how about you find your way back to whatever god awful containment board you managed to seep your way out of and get right back to spreading that sweet porn spackle over your mental and emotional inadequacy.

>>10382858
I actually frequent this board a lot anon. Cosplay crafts are super interesting to me.

>>10382804

>>10382867
I know you won't believe me but I can't recall ever even posting in /pol/ though I totally should have when I lived in Japan for some based Nippon trickery.

>>10382856
>jewie fucks, dumb niggers!
>what's misogynistic about a little porn addiction? i'm nice to real women :^)
>after all porn cured my depression and chronic dickitis
>it was a big problem because i Literally Only Own Gym Shorts
fuck off

>>10382878
>a joke about the algorithm that's supposed to show you things you like, but is showing you not that
>No evidence of me being an actual misogynist, just green texting implications
>implying that it was porn that "cured" my depression, when instead it's a simple tool to refocus myself.
>I don't even know what dicktitis is
>expecting me to own pants when I live in 70+ weather year round
baka anon you assume a lot of stuff
what kind of porn do you think I watch anyways? Do you think I beat my dick raw to that violent woman beating psuedo rape nonsense?

>>10382878
also I'm not nice to women, I said I treat them the same as everyone else lmao.

Probably not unpopular around here but Tiktok and the idea of cosplaying as a form of social media expression completely ruins it for me. Nobody makes their own anymore, they just buy it off amazon or where ever else. And I won't say I haven't bought pieces offline before, but it feels like the whole idea of cosplay is dead and replaced with idiot kids trying to get clout or whatever. I'm 23 so I don't think it's because I'm old but maybe I am just old

>>10364561
Most cosplayers are social outcasts who become narcissistic mean girls the moment they get even a shred of attention. They all pretend to hate drama yet they all talk shit on anyone the moment they turn their backs.

In fact, the whole "I hate drama stance" more often than not is just an excuse not to cut ties with friends who are predators. A good amount of the dudes in this community are abusers/predators because you all allow them to be.

Also,
>99% of y'alls IRL ahegaos just make you look like a retard

>>10382965

You need to hang out with older people and less fame-desperate 22 year olds. All my cosplay friends are 28+ and your opinion is pretty common in that group.

>>10382805
sure, it isnt entirely their fault, that would be silly to think. But they certainly arent helping at all.

>>10382965
I was just about to post my unpopular opinion of "tiktok is fun actually, you just have to follow a few genuinely funny/entertaining people or good crafters and the algorithm will take care of the rest for you."

>>10374783
THIS. I think its really great when a cosplayer has range, and if one day, a girl is cosplaying something they're passionate about with great craftsmanship, then the next day another character they love, that just happens to have their boobs out, I think it's fine. A lot of people use the term "costhot or sexy cosplayer" when most of what the other cosplayer's work isn't sexy at all. Cosplayers with range are my favorites, honestly.

>>10383151
And it's honestly kind of shitty that women are judged negatively for wearing sexy costumes when the same people have a hissy fit if a female character doesn't show her tits. Plus, you can have great technical skills and sex appeal in the same costume, they're not mutually exclusive

>>10383151
i personally have no issue with sexy cosplays, just shit like basically making a bimbofication version of a character who doesn't actually wear a sexy outfit. i'm not anti-fun and cheap, silly cosplays aren't always a bad thing, but i'm not going to consider you putting on a bikini and Ash Ketchum's hat as a real attempt.

>>10382976
if i could choose to erase a concept from human knowledge it would be ahegao, and the "i hate drama so this actual rapist is going to remain my friend!" shit is so fucking true. just recently my younger sister realized that her friend group had reunited with her attempted rapist after she moved away and it's breaking her little heart.

What's the limit you girls think you can push the design of character, doing your own version of the character without making it inrecognizable? For example, I'm a 26 yo guy, white latino, 5'9, /fit/, etc., always wanted to cosplay as Cyclops or Gambit. But seeing the discussion makes me think if it was going to be acceptable if I did the Cyclops cosplay with a beard, for example, since when I shave I just look like 20 year old, it wouldn't fit with him. If I made everything else correct (hair, visor, etc.), is it going to be acceptable?

Mind that I'm a guy that never did cosplay, just some costumes at parties and stuff, not from /cgl/.

>>10383189
Literally don't worry about it. 90 percent of people don't look like their cosplay naturally at all

>>10383189
Depending on the character you can actually get pretty creative with the design while remaining recognizable, a beard is almost nothing on that front. With Cyclops, the visor is pretty much going to get you recognized on its own.

>>10383189
they've both been portrayed in the comics with beards and their costumes make them recognizable either way imo

>>10383193
>>10383196
>>10383210
Thanks for the input. I'll be doing a Cyclops cosplay with my gf as Storm. Thanks again!

I’ve been a teacher for awhile now and now I’m my cosplay life I avoid adults who cosplay canonically teenaged characters like the plague. It’s so unnerving and creepy.

>>10383321
So now you only talk to underages and avoid 95% of adult cosplayers?

>>10383526
it's not actually that hard to find adults cosplaying adult characters, friend

>>10383321
who the fuck do you talk to then? literal children?
ew gross. that just makes you sound like a predator.

>>10383526
>>10383567

God no. Most adults at cons I see cosplay adult characters. (God bless western media and western games for this) If you’re 19+ and really only feel like dressing up like make-believe high schoolers than you might need to expand your taste in fiction.

>>10383762
Unpopular opinion but most anime characters look the same lmao
Unless you're like super old looking it's whatever.

>>10383767

It's not the looks. It's like avoiding bronies because fully grown men squeeing over and dissecting the timelines of a series aimed at 8-year-old little girls usually speaks to some oddity in their personality.


(I'm not teacher anon btw. Can totally see why they would do that though).

>>10383062
This, the "not interested" function is what makes all of the difference. You don't HAVE to watch tweens be stupid.

>>10383321
>>10383762
the negative impact brought on by purposefully dissolving the disconnect between fiction and reality is more dangerous to children than people enjoying what they cosplay regardless of age.

People need to stop looking into the screenprinted suits on white. Spider-Man, Superman, DvA, Raiden, Vegeta, MhA cosplayers. They're a scam as it's like a low resolution 2 dimensional texture on a fully detailed 3d model. They don't even reflect in light like you think they would, it's like a smooth sweater, absorbing the light, I know because I have two of them, they look great when you take a photo, and if you're a non cosplayer. But when you put that stuff on, the magic/immersion dies. At least manually paint over them with some thick fabric paint so it looks real. Or wear a padded textured suit/muscle suit under it

If you look close at the pic in >>10386300
only the printed muscle texture parts reflect the light. Now pic related was made with hand textured fabric that shines in actual light, not fake dyed light

>>10384086
This. Get that fucking zoomed outta here

>>10366491
I’d put it more at 1998

>>10377008
>To be frank, there are a shitload of 28-35 year old millennial dudes that are still stuck in 2007 mentally
And there is nothing wrong with that either.

>>10386418

Handmade cosplays feel more genuine and showcase much more love for the character, which is what cosplaying is all about. The advent of easily bought cosplays bought in a bunch of FOTM shitters just trying to farm attention and patreonbux.

That being said, I have no issue with costhots if they made their shit. It's the low barrier of entry (of buying cosplays) that I dislike. The slightly uneven seams, the loose threads, etc all make a cosplay shine; it's substantially better than the terribad party-city tier cloth that every bought cosplay seems to have.

>>10389998
Honestly, if it's just normal people buying cosplays I could care less. Most those people aren't even doing it for Patreon bux, or to promote themselves.
That being said, most cosplay models on Insta and such are the problematic, since they promote others to do the same.

>>10383321
Wow, well this is a hot take. Are you a troll? For all of costuming history adults have cosplayed (costumed) as all ages, just look at Disney characters. Stop projecting your own insecurities on others. And this 'disconnect' affecton children? Do you think that character actors at amusement parks have the same effect disillusioning kids? Come on, responsible adults cosplaying who they want and not 'tricking' kids (whatever that means) have no effect at all on children.

>>10364561

Colour palette is an important part of a character's design. If your skin colour doesn't match the character's then you shouldn't cosplay as that character unless you paint your skin or are so hot that you make everything you wear good. That goes for all skin colours including fictional ones.

Tiktok is exporting user data en masse behind the scenes to China including all your drafts and unsaved videos including biometric PII. It seems asinine to say its different from fb or Google selling my data but it is because China is a de facto hostile nation state, but lol funny cosplay memes

>>10376826
Iv'e been a cosplay guest 2 times and I can tell you for sure that I have never treated any staff or anyone for that matter poorly, I don't speak for all cosplay guests but I would argue that most are just as friendly.

>>10390636
Also guesting experience, though not in cosplay, and I agree- much like with VAs or comic artists, the ones who have a ton of fans that worship them and are mostly there for attention and parties tend to be kinda overinflated jerks, but the ones that are there just to work and/or self promote tend to be chill af.

>>10386479
Nah.

>>10390649
Same boat (guest not cosplayer) and agreed. You can tell who is in it for what and for the record when you watch a panel with a mixture of guests from different areas, and think one of the guests is insufferable- so do most of the other people on that panel. And we do talk shit later.

Be polite. Don’t show up late. Don’t talk over people. Don’t act like a general ass. It’s really that easy to make a good impression.

Can we please put some effort into these animal crossing cosplays? Every single one I’ve seen has been god awful.

>>10391939
What do you want, full fursuits?

>>10391959
A wig with an actual widows peak an decent ears would be a good start. A true least this one didn’t shop on half the outfit

The black cosplayer trend of "I won't wear a wig, I'll just go with dreads for a black take on X!" is overdone. Get a damn wig. Why is literally every single "X character but black" wearing dreads?

>>10392152
I can respect not trying to fuck with wigs due to the sheer difference in hair type being a hurdle.

>>10392152
yeah, because black people naturally have thin hair, not doubting it's impossible through hairspray and hours of conditioning. Not doubting you can't grab a wig, but if the character was black, would they hold the same hairstyle beat for beat? Even Oprah had to wear a frizzy spiked wig for play a character who is usually depicted white. I always see it as lazy and uncreative or just restricting whenever black people, the well known ethnic group to have thick hair that can grow upwards to 4 feet, just grabs the well known wig to cosplay as Goku or whatever

>>10392353
Not saying I justify dreads or braids, but are we going out of what's accurate or what's practical to reality? I mean pic related spent 2 years perfecting the Yugi Moto look and he even cut it down recently, so I dunno if "I'll just go with dreads for a black take on X!" is the right mindset to take. I've seen Black Cloud and Sephiroth with dreads, but only 1 Black Superman with dreads. Mostt Black Goku cosplayers just pull the wig, I'm scrolling through Google and see a good amount of dreadlocks, braids, afros straight hair, and wigs. So I don't think it's just one hairstyle man

Getting real sick and tired of the pearl clutching in cosplay gossip circles.
>Oh this person is a pos but you can't make fun of them that's mean you're awful for doing that!
Can we just lol at retardation without needing to have some moral stick up the ass.

>>10392298
synthetic fiber wigs are a different material type to all of us, no matter what hair type we're born with. trust me I wish I didn't have to style and deal with wigs, they are hot, annoying, the long ones tangle, but it just looks better.

>>10392586
who's the target this time? cons dying have KILLED the gossip train

>>10392651
I just mean in general from fb groups to fucking lolcow it's just choked with these home due to virus moral brats that can't handle anything less than mindblowingly fucked shit so even outed shitters they're like
>that's mean you can't do that
>ew not milky enough go away
Like jesus fuck we're in places to make fun not have a pissing contest of what's appropriate to make fun of on a total scumbag person.

Wearing colored contacts is strange and detracts from the cosplay. Maybe I'm just weird but exotic colors of contacts (like bright red or purple) make a cosplay look odd and almost uncanny valley-esque.

>>10364734
What’s the 30% rule?
t. First ever post on this board

>>10392732
Especially circle lenses that clash with the eye color of the person wearing them.
Blue eyes with brown cirle lenses and the other way around look like an eye disease.

The best Jojo cosplays I've seen use really heavy contours to evoke the look of the manga. It seems like EVERYONE draws lines but it almost always looks like shit (or at least doesn't make them look better) unless they go full Borderlands and add lines and shading to their outfit as well.

>>10392922
Does that count as an unpopular opinion though? Pretty sure anyone half assing such a detail oriented look is gonna get panned.

>>10367365
>this whole ordeal is over
Hahahaha, keep dreaming. Our lives as we knew them are finished.

>>10394014
Shut the fuck up and kill yourself already you depressive shit.

>>10394019
Sorry for saying what we all already know.

Or how about you let black folks do whatever they want with their hair. I can always tell when outsiders spew bullshit. Just say you all hate black folks cosplaying your East Asian & and white characters. Oh and I don't cosplay by the way.

>>10394211
r u lost?

I've got one: By the time quarantine is over in the US, you will be too old to cosplay.

>>10394214
r u still in the 1800s?

>>10394408

>>10394211
Sure, let them. But most, if not all, black cosplayers I've seen seem to think they deserve praise and worship because they're black and act like there's some boogeyman overlord in the cosplay community tapping a sign that says "no blacks"

Then post on IG and add 30 different tags for the same thing

"HEY YA'LL THIS IS MY TAKE ON SAILOR MOON HAVE A NICE DAY" <inserts 30 hastags for black cosplay>

then when they don't get the 50 million likes they wanted

"FRIGGIN' RACISM IN THE COMMUNITY, MAN"

See: >>10367132

>>10394586
I can see this point of view, but what many people fail to realize is that there IS racism in the community. Maybe not as much as it’s made out to be, but it’s there. Also, normies comment on black cosplayer’s pics because “the character isn’t black” etc.
There’s usually two reactions when white people have this kind of argument. It’s either like the post above or they realize that they have an inherent privilege because of their skin. That isn’t to say that you don’t have difficulties, but just that your skin isn’t a factor in it.

>>10383793
If you can't accept bronies then you're probably a fake nerd and don't really belong at cons at all. If you were real you would understand the concept of caring about a piece of media. If you don't, you don't belong and are probably spreading toxicity in other ways too.

>>10375585
I don't get why dub va guests are supposed to be exciting when they all sound exactly the same in every role

>>10394992
90% of "naruto isn't black" comments come from normies and fuckboys who only go to cons for merch and vidya. the actual cosplay community does nothing but lick black people's assholes, but still gets dogpiled and cancelled for the slightest step out of bounds. but all the black cosplayers do nothing but tear each other down and shittalk each other behind their backs, because it's about clout, not solidarity.

Here's a hot take:

OC Characters should not be permitted in competitions.

>>10390240
Not really an unpopular opinion or cosplay-related, but MacArthur was right and we should have nuked them when we had the chance.

>>10395583
100% agree with this. If you enter an OC it had better be damn good. I’ve seen and judged way too many contests with people wearing a cheap amazon with some thrown together costume. It looks horrible and your chances of captivating the audience/ judges are slim to none if you have no personality.

>>10395583
They're usually not. Any contest I've seen with an accuracy percentage doesn't allow them. However they allow OCs and original design if the artist is "famous" enough like Hannah Alexander.

>>10395651
Truman is the reason we have the Coronavirus.

You can't change my mind on this.

>>10395741
>This is my OC based on Critical Roll and I just think it's the best thing ever and I'm going to enter it and blah blah blah blah blah

Fucking hate them. Bloating and taking up space.

Also people who buy a zentai suit, add a foam head, glop tube paint and glitter and call it a costume.

>>10365469
this is a stupid opinion and you're part of the reason people only want to cosplay things that are attractive/popular/will get attention. Someone can't change their height, why should that bar them from cosplaying their favorite character?

>>10370816
okay but blackface IS funny, and even funnier when sjw roasties get mad about it

American cosplayers need to shut up about about cosplayers using darker foundation for tanner looks. And by Americans its typically white zoomer or Tumblr tier irl underployed losers who love to stir shit on this topic. Never mind all the real fucked up stuff out there, this is their iwojima. And I also think it always looks hideous on anyone who tries it and really no one should be doing it but for personal aesthetic reasons not moral judgment. Lastly i don't know if its unpopular but basically if we are gonna apply morality to it only white Americans are not allowed to do it. Everyone else is fine but it still looks uggo

>>10386300
>>10386304
Some people make really nice 3D textured screen printed fabric. But, they don’t give any information on how to do it yourself, which makes sense, as they’ll selling it and tons of research probably went into it. I kinda wish someone would desu

>>10396008
Not trying to start shit but how is it funny?

>>10364561
Probably not unpopular but I can't fucking stand kids in regular clothes, an mha wig and maybe a flower crown.

>>10375585
I feel like Mignohna's fanbase is more a product of it's time since he's been big since the early 2000s where the way most people would watch anime was on adult swim ect. I don't really see fans of his anymore since a lot of his obsessive fans in the 2000s came from Ed or Tamaki who haven't been animated in well over a decade.

>>10371736

>>10395583
The only prestigious comps that do allow them off the top of my head are C2E2 and Twitchcon. Pretty much every other large scale comp only allows official designs. I do agree with you though.

>>10392732
Agree! Seeing people to live action cosplays like game of thrones with big circle lenses just looks shit. Noone will even notice you have the "wrong" colour eyes anyway unless it's a super close portrait. Plus the amount of people just being.. dangerous with cheap lenses? Ain't worth it

>>10396050
I mean they’re kids, if they’re not being assholes then they’re fine. Why do they piss you off?

>>10396401
They're usually being loud and annoying.

>>10395583
OC characters should be allowed if they're well known OCs, and not something you made yourself. Showing your admiration for a character should not be limited to only those with the approval of a big corporation. If a design is well known and recognized, it should be possible to cosplay regardless of who made it.

If the con is small and the competiton isn't huge, personal OCs are also fine to enter a competition, but should probably not be able to win. It is however fine to use a competition to show it off if it's most suitable avenue for that at the con.

>>10396050
Casual cosplays are always nice to walk around in and explore the con, I don’t wanna hobble around in a long dress all day but I also don’t want to take off my makeup and look like a tired normie

>>10396339
This reply made me feel better. I have astigmatism in both eyes and can't get colored lenses unless I wanna spend upwards of 50-100 dollars for one color. I've always felt like a piece was missing from my costumes but this is comforting.

>>10396413
Congratulations, you've become the grump you probably complained about when you were their age. Yes, they're loud and annoying. They're excited and don't know how to control their voices. Unfortunately almost all teenagers are like that. They don't have the access to good cosplays like we used to. They're just starting on their journey like we all once did. The difference between them and us is that we didn't have an ounce of the access as they do now to cosplay materials which is why most of us just didn't wear a costume or made it out of hot glue and shiny costume satin. I do wish they would stay in outdoors areas and congregate loudly there instead of hotel lobbies and the main hall though.

>>10396461
t. teenager

>>10396431
> if they're well known OCs
Like what?

>>10396462
I'm an old fart, man. I'm just not a grumpy one. I hated being talked down to or scorned by older people and I just wanted to feel confident in public with my friends. I was loud as shit and it's embarrassing to look back on, but I think it's just part of growing up and realizing you were cringe at some point in your life.

>>10396463
Nyx, Eggette, Sonichu, Snowdrop, Fluffle Puff, the fake Shaymin sky form

There are probably many others but I don't want to list too many from one fandom and ain't deep into every fandom

>>10396474
I haven't heard of a single one of these.

>>10396477
That means you aren't into any of these fandoms. The point is that they're well established characters, not something the cosplayer made up themselves, which I think should be enough to compete on equal footing.

I'm a bit uncertain about characters from literature, you don't really have a pictore to compare to so the cosplayer would have to show off vague descriptions from the books. They certainly should be allowed to compete, but it'd be hard for judges to judge accuracy to source material, so it'd be hard to justify a victory unless they're a lot better than everyone else.

>>10396477
Nayrt, but holy shit not even sonichu? Are you 12?

>>10396474
>Sonichu cosplay
now that's something I want to see

Lolita is not a costume
>>people make clown-lolita a thing
Lolita is not a fashion for children
>>Brand Lolita company makes new collection for toddlers
Lolita is about covering yourself up
>>dildo-chan had like 50% people going woo! at the same time 40% were going meh whatever while 10% of us raged while we argued what is sexual and what is not sexual?????????

I hate this fashion so much sometimes. Can classic coords just break off already and be there own thing. Ain't nobody mixing harnesses or collars with IW JSKs. I've been asked if I'm in a play when I wear my crown, over the knee dresses sometimes, but nobody's asked me if I'm into "something kinky" or wondered "Gee, that lady must want her dad to fuck her looking like 6 year old with pig tails and big puffy petite while singing Mary had a Little Lamb."

>>10396459
I can't wear contacts because I'm allergic, and in my decade of cosplaying not once has someone noticed I have the "wrong" colour eyes so

>>10396033
Here's a tactic that is used with foam but can be used with fabric as well
https://www.instructables.com/id/Into-the-Spider-Verse-Spider-man/
https://downencreativestudios.com/making-hela-goddess-of-death/

>>10397091

Those stars look awful for so much time and effort to be making them like that. And also, that lady is sick. Look at those skeletal arms.

Gatekeeping is good, it raises the base level of quality.

>>10395998
Because it fucks up the overall appearance. If your goal is to replicate how a character looks, don't be surprised when someone calls you out when it doesn't look right.

>>10376784
>>10376852
My question is if these kind of people are so shitty like this then why do they keep having a fanbase, are allowed in events and even get invited and promoted to them?

>>10399295
The same could be said for actual celebrities like Jeffree Star. Hell, Donald trump is president. Sadly doesn't matter how many accusations are made, for the most part people don't care

>>10397890
>Gatekeeping is good, it raises the base level of quality.
Counterpoint: It discourages improvement.

>>10374890
why would you talk to one in the first place if you did you would be considered by many to be a pedo

I miss the days when the cosplay community was less accepting of fat pigs. It feels like the entire community has been completely overrun by “body positivity,” Karens/ SJWs, really bad crossplayers, and DRAMA! We still had drama back in the 00’s, but it was all tripfag drama. Now you can’t even say “tripfag” without being socially lynched because you said “fag.” Hell, you can’t say “lynched” without someone crying about it. And I’ll be blunt, the fact that every fucking single thread on this board always contains multiple uses of the word “cis” or “trans” is disturbing. The most we talked about trans people was when discussing Mana from Malice Mizer, or crossplay. Meanwhile, you people are fucking obsessed with two things: Pronouns, and genitals. Most of you need a head check. Stop being faggots, and just have fucking fun with this hobby or leave it. And I don’t mean “homosexual”— I mean fucking annoying twats.

T. Oldfag

Someone commissioned someone for this?? And they get this piece of shit fried monstrosity from it? I would be ashamed to post this as a finished product.

>>10369242
i agree. also the one spongebob one... i remember the girl was going off on social media, that its her original design, and paraphrasing but basically she felt like people need to make their own designs and not "copy" hers. she was really mean about it. idk man its a costume for fun, if other people enjoy it so much they wanna make it, IMO that should be celebrated. generally she seems to have a bad attitude anyway, maybe she will grow out of it.

>>10403382
from someone who used to follow her, she goes off on those tangents a lot with her cosplays. The issue is, she does a lot of generalized designs and then bitches when it looks like someone copies her. She tries too hard to be a "funny meme cosplayer" and she ends up coming off as holier than thou when it comes to regular cosplays.

>>10365469
As long as they are not competing or pretending their cosplay is accurate, who cares?

>>10397091
Correction, the picture isn't the same thing they're using on the fabric. Thats heat transfer vinyl. HTV is pretty neat, I wish i'd see more cosplayers making use out of it

>>10403459
yup that is a great way to put it.