/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

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I bought this in blue but after seeing more coords I wish I had it in all colours. Can't really afford that though.

wristcuffs sold out within minutes. Hope they will restock

>>10237775
review pls

>>10237774
Who this? Ig?

>>10237776
They will! It seems that they release a batch of lace items every few months

I snagged a pair of black gloves and wrist cuffs and I love them. The wrist cuffs are BIG and the lace hangs down so nicely over the hand. Kinda wish I’d grabbed a white pair of them too.

>>10237769
are these good quality? ive been debating getting one but i wouldn't want to unless its worth the 100ish dollars

>>10238161
no

>>10238165
rip, I was thinking of getting one too but I had the same concerns

>>10238161
They aren’t leather or anything but I use mine daily since they have been released and they are fine. I have the shorter wallet. I also have the other kinds that I use for different bags and they all held up so far but they don’t get the use the wallet does.

>>10237886
Shop staff of chou chou ange I think, the pictures are from Moitie's twitter

>>10238161
Just get the smaller one for 40 dollars

>>10238073
If you ever don't want them anymore, I would pay 90 euro for the wrist-cuffs

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What do y'all think about rereleases? Are they worth the price?

>>10240648
They are definitely worth it to me. It's hard for me to buy Moitie secondhand, because I work and travel a lot, I can't look for secondhand Moitie all that time. With the re-releases I can inform my SS well in advance, I know the condition will be pristine, and I get the colour of my preference. The one you posted also fits me better than the original, because I can tighten the back lacing (the original only has waist-ties iirc).

To those who got the wrist-cuffs: did you have time to get multiple colours, or do you recommend choosing one unpopular colour and immediately checking out?

I'm already anticipating a re-release of the wrist-cuffs in autumn or winter.

>>10240648
def so. It's so hard to find moitie second hand either way so having items re-released just puts more of it into the market for others to have.

>>10240648
I'm very happy with the accessories. Kinda disappointed in Silent Moon, though. I hate the material but I'm not sure if I want to sell it because it'd almost definitely be at a loss.

>>10240648
I own the jsk in the pic and i love it so much! I also got silent moon, whilst it was my dream print, i'm not the greatest fan of the chiffon, although i have no idea how the original was like.

https://item.mercari.com/jp/m27355001411/?_s=U2FsdGVkX18t2x8FBr1FGrMmUtyRqXes68uuMs5_OZE-5Vel-muyFY9lW_Ovsrv0zWSJdP-nIZI3uZ86RnrwTrjIGgIYap__9UxVWQnYmzO1kHYRUkLQ6uOg3-bM8eXB

someone buy t his so i dont have to

>>10240755
I can't remember the last time i saw decently priced moitie on mercari. I hope it doesn't go to a scalper.

the re-release of the lace otks is gonna be hell isn't it

>>10240751
See this is why it's not worth it to me unless you are sure you'll like it. The rereleases only sell at a loss so you can't take a chance on releases like you can with AP. I don't buy to resell but it sucks having to take a big loss when something doesn't suit you

>>10240755
Do it anon it's gorgeous

>>10240772
I already bought too many things this month and there's an Atelier Boz dress just listed on LM that I want too. Someone needs to stop me.

>>10240719
Get only one, it’s not worth it to be greedy and miss out completely

>>10240751
Eh silent moon isn’t selling for a loss so do it if you aren’t into it. It is a lighter fabric than the original

>>10240788
I'm not trying to be greedy, I'm trying to maximise my chances. If I get one and it turns out to be sold out, wouldn't it be too late to pick a different colour? If I ended up getting several, I would sell for retail to my comm.

>>10240831
Try it out if you want but you waste more time deleting the sold out one and trying to pay for the other on your cart.

at what hour does the new releases usually go live? is there a difference between the mmm site and wunderwelt?

>>10240854
They usually list the time they go live when i reveal the new item on facebook/instagram. From what i am aware of, they go live on the mmm site and wunderwelt at the same time advertised.

Bag for 4500 yen

https://item.mercari.com/jp/m19813784865/?_s=U2FsdGVkX1_sVaJGMHdFNXIlZxdDTFVtoErux-VHNHZ79v1fD11iyjt5jDxnAq8aR9VHO1g1dz_Sqm-psBb_31m6AfkzQbwq37zdSCZsGrxwGT5BIq9cQxcyoYDMHYYW

>>10240854
It’s usually like noon jp time. They say though as >>10240859 said.

WW is set up for international orders, their other site is not. You need an SS

>>10240648
Yes. I love this silhouette it’s so beautiful and flattering on all shapes and sizes. I bought the blue but I’m tempted to buy the white as well just because I love it so much

>>10240698
What ss do you use for buying from physical stores?

>>10241083
Momoirokumasan, the same I use for commissions and twitter/private sales. She is expensive, and slow because she has a full time job, but she's a Japanese lolita herself so she doesn't make mistakes with such things.

Did anyone else get the KL x MMM collab dress? I got the black OP and headdress. I hope they ship it out soon. My comm is going to an old Victorian mansion at the end of the month and it would be nice to be able to wear it there.

>>10241301
Jesus Christ, you're still waiting for that?

>>10241602
Nayrt but I got the set in white. On the page on WW it says estimated shipping date is August. At first I wanted the black, but Misako looked so cute in the white OP, I got that instead.

Has anyone seen anything else about the mmm x baroque collab yet?

>>10241621
I love the sleeves. Wish they made a blouse.

>>10241621
The only thing I found is a tweet about it still being shipped in August, so probably end of the month.

>>10241270
She is cheaper than muuh

>>10242380
muuh is faster though

>>10241301

Good luck. I remember buying from KL back when it was cool and if they're anything like they were before they just delay almost indefinitely.

>>10242405
I hope this doesn't put Moitie off collaborating with other Korean brands. I'd love to see their collab with Baroque actually happen and maybe with Lief in the future although they may be a bit too sweet.

>>10242407

Honestly probably not. I can't imagine their parent company caring as long as they make some of that sweet copyright cash.

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Is anyone gonna go for it?

>>10243452
Only If they rerelease this dress (for humans) with the alterations they made for the doll.

>>10243452
If i had the money to blow without regrets i would buy this without hesitation. I'll likely just get a bjd in the future and customise to look similar to this. I hope this means they plan on rereleasing the op in human size in the future.

>>10243452
What is the head sculpt, a completely new one or one of the existing sculpts with a custom faceup? Did they say?

>>10243452
I will, but I fricking hate japanese lottery systems and am insanely unlucky with them.
Also calling it now: 70% of the dolls will go to resellers and scalpers

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>>10243499
Nevermind, it seems like foreigners aren't allowed to enter anyway.
>*We do not ship Owner-Limited Item overseas. Your kind understanding is appreciated.

>>10243452
That doll better be wearing bloomers

>>10243454
let's pray together anon
the original dress doesn't have the lace collar so it's less cute

>>10243452
is it the GR girl or boy body?

either way if i had the cash OF COURSE i would buy it

>>10243544
Not sure about this, given they have a website page for people outside of Japa as well as one in Japan, but who knows.
>>10243495
It's a new one, apparently (someone on DoA asked Volks).

>>10243666
>boy or girl
kek good one

>>10243706
It’s actually pretty normal for brand collars to be limited to Japan due to copyright reasons. That’s why every brand x Disney collab requires a shopping service and can’t be outright bought by someone outside of Japan.

>>10243666
It's a girl body.

>>10243799
Do you think we can enter this lottery with a forwarding address? I already asked /toy/ but they didn't respond.

>>10243959
Just message them wtf

>>10243802
>girl
fucking dropped
jokes aside it's actually a gorgeous doll, and the dress is great as well

>>10243966
i can't find their english support email

anyone know if they announce a re-release of the wristcuffs?

>>10244310
It seems like they rerelease them every couple of months.

>>10244313
That's good news

Hate to break it to any of you waiting for the mmm x kl collab, but it’s experiencing delays. Just got this message.

>>10244331
People should expect that from Krad Lanrete. Someone tell Moitie it will be delayed in September too.

>>10244098
It's the same as their Japanese support mail

>>10237767
anyone plan on going?

>>10244364
On the faq where they mention that email, they say mails with english letters will be automatically deleted.

>>10244437
I've sent them multiple questions to the Japanese mail and they replied in English. They were probably forced to write that so we'd go to wunderwelt.

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>>10244878
u can diy these lmao

>>10244898
If Moitie had a patreon or gofundme I would give them money, so why wouldn't I give them money for some nice basic socks. Also, most people don't like making their own stuff.

>>10245240
No fun allowed

How is Moitie failing?

>>10245240
they don't even look that good quality wise though. they are shiny at parts where they are stretched any significant amount. 10 dollars max.

>>10245327
Keep bitching, I still want to support the brand

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So if I understand that right, they only ship within Japan, hold the $1300 for 20 days and if you loose the lottery they won't even email you and you'll receive your refund in a week to 60 days?

>>10247149
if its a regular volks lottery, you enter without paying. they ask for money when you win

>>10247506
That's what I thought at first but it sounds different in the description.
>The payment temporarily withdrawn once finishing your application. If you could not win the lottery, and once your application is cancelled, your payment comes back to your bank account after few days.
>If you could not win the lottery, it'll take few days or few weeks until your credit facility comes back after we confirm your cancellation.
>Lottery Entry - Payment Procedure ; 5. Review and Submit Your Order
Review all details on the [ Confirm Your Order Details ] page and click the [Confirm the entry ] button. * Payment does NOT guarantee the delivery of any lottery item.

Any tips on finding old Moitie? I haunt fril, Mercari, yaj, and LM. Kind of new to the brand but really enjoying it.

>>10248163
Be skinny. The stuff you can find typically will be skirts or have no shirring.

>>10248163
come back later, in a year or two

>>10248163
I've honestly only been lucky on facebook.

>>10248163
when you look on fril.jp, don't just look up moitie but also try moitié and 上のアイテ. it doesn't happen often but some people only write it as moitié in their listing and you don't see that in the search results if you typed it as moitie.

I'm buying pic related to go with my blue prints, do you think it'll work?

Did any of you make a reservation for the socks at Atelier Pierrot? Are you supposed to get a confirmation?

>>10248433
you are. takes them a couple of days

>>10248201
>purple

Does anyone else think there is some sort of story behind the Holy Queen print or a story it was based on? Who made that print?

>>10248732
Hail Holy Queen is a Catholic prayer. Maybe it's based on that? Mana once said the name Lolita came from Delores, it's a Catholic name and a reference to Our Lady Of Sorrows (Mary, mother of Jesus). He seems to be very interested in Catholicism so you may want to google that prayer?

>>10248862
There is a knight on the print

>>10240477
what are those shoes?

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Does anyone actually fit this dress? I've never seen it worn well besides that 1 GLB picture.

>>10248163
All of the old moitie I own has been from lacemarket, trying to buy sought after things from mercari/fril when you have to use a shopping service is a losing game. YJA doesn't get that many old moitie listings from people that aren't scalpers, but it does have a more even playing field for us overseas folks bc of auto-bidding through zenmarket/buyee/etc

>>10248956
That girl who models for AtePie has it.
Its one of my DD, but I don't nurture any hope anymore.

>>10250080
She doesn't fit it well either imo

The scalper bought my dream blouse. Feeling really conflicted rn.

Scalper bought my dream blouse. Feeling really conflicted rn.

>>10254837
Was it pic related? Someone actually bought the new listing for 12000 yen already.

To people who own the bat collar blouse: do you think it's worth it to buy new, and how are the measurements, are they accurate? Especially shoulder width.

>>10254909
I guess nobody here bought it

>>10254909
I remember someone in the previous feels thread bought one and their only complaint was that it was is a little sheer. I'd say just buy it new since the chances of your buying it second hand at a decent price is slim.

>>10255513
Great!

I will buy it from Atelier Pierrot then. I remember someone said they mark down parcels, though I don't know in which field to write that when I buy from them. Maybe I should use a SS..

They're releasing pic related tomorrow

Does anyone know if pic related fits a 26 inch waist comfortably? I don't trust the measurements I've found. The seller is a scalper who likely just copied the official ones.

>>10259352
It will, it’s not a super tiny piece. I can measure mine for you when I get home but I have a 28in/70cm waist and it fits me fine.

>>10259355
Thank you. Now I just have to find the cape.

Can anyone recommend blouses that perfectly match with Moitie skirts but are not Moitie?

I fit Moitie skirts but the blouses and cutsews are too small for me, and it's really frustrating I can't wear things from the same brand together. I like to wear lolita on easy mode and I'm jelly of sweet lolitas who can make an entire coord with heart lace in the same colour.

>>10259676
How about the mensize? I can fit Moitié’s Men size easily, while I don’t fit into the skirts by far.

>>10260063
It's mostly a problem of sleeve length and the bust sitting too high. Anyway they rarely release something in men's size that goes with my wardrobe, I don't like masculine clothes.

Moitie releasing two t-shirt and a powerbank (yeah i am confused too) in collaboration with dolifie.

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>>10259676
Some of IWs blouses looks exactly the same as MmMs blouses, for example ruffled high collared blouses. Though if your problem is sleeve length, all JP brands will be too short. Try handmade or paying someone to do it for you.

>>10260471
Can the powerbank even be bought if they don't ship it overseas?

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>It is a lighter fabric than the original
wow srsly? the original was pretty light already.

>>10243454

iawtc, humansize plz

>>10244363

this is why I'm elitist and don't fuck with overseas labels

>>10260778
>all JP brands will be too short
They don't all use the same patterns.. I can easily fit blouses from Btssb. AP and JM are too big for me at the shoulders and bust. Moitie is too small. Sorry but I don't trust your advice about IW now.

>>10260798
You're an idiot. Lief and baroque never do shit like that, only krad lanrete is known for it.

>>10260793
only if youre in Japan to bring it over yourself

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I'm starting to think they don't actually want to find a designer and slowly morph into some kind of band merch shop instead.

>>10260830
working for Mana must be hell, he looks like he's super anakin about details exactly the way he wants them

>>10260840
You shouldn't become a designer if you think that's hell. Get a job without creative vision.

>>10260798

Local brands do that too, particularly smaller ones.

So either Moitie has upped their stock, or no one gives a shit about these socks even though I’ve heard nothing but begging and pleading from other people over it, because I was able to buy every single one of my prefered colors easily in one transaction just fine. Did anyone else try to order them at the release time?

>>10262417
I'm surprised that there's still stock. Currently on the fence about buying these because I prefer the cross arch lace and I'm hoping that they will release these same items with it.

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That's low-key annoying, I tried to book black x blue through Atelier Pierrot for pickup on the 14th and they told me that colourway was completely sold out. Now it's here but with tax and shipping tacked on. Thanks, Mana (not).

>>10262417
I ordered through a SS because I was worried about missing them in a bloodbath. Maybe others did the same?

>>10262417
i only noticed the release going through my insta stories trying to fall asleep. i think a lot of people havent realized theyre out yet.

wristcuffs are still available on WW

>>10262433
There was separate stock for the AP event so it did sell out then. But seeing how it’s the only one that sold out I would say get it if you want it.

>>10262469
How come they always release in the last week of the month when I have no money left after all the bills? Release in the begging of the month when my paycheck still has some breathing room fml

>>10262417
I didn't even notice they are out, MMM never stated a solid release date for wunderwelt. I wouldn't have know until you posted this or if i checked later on.

>>10262502
They posted on fb and Twitter, I suggest following them on Twitter as it’s the most up to date

>>10262417
I was asleep when they released, thank Mana they were still in stock this morning I was able to snatch the black x blue ones.

Managed to get the black x black ones!! my internet kept failing on me but I checked out successfully!

>>10262417
You could make a reservation for these through Atelier Pierrot. I reserved all colourways a few weeks ago. I'm surprised not many people here knew about it.

I have a very big butt but small bust (82cm) and normal waist (69cm). Would this look good on me or tight around my butt?

Maybe someone can tell me how accurate the official measurements are?
I know Japanese brands sometimes measure the sleeves and shoulder width weird.
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>>10262417
I was really banking on a white/black colorway to complete a coord I'm working on and they didn't make it... But because I'm a dumb bastard I bought two pairs and am going to Frankenstein them together. Take the lace and lacing from the all black and switch it with the lace and lacing from the all white. Wish me luck, gulls- it'll make my coord perfect if they come out nicely. (it should be a very easy adjustment, I'm not too worried).

>>10262600
You could wear them on top of each other. The ribbon is attached at the top, not bottom.

>>10262609
I already have a pair of the old release and switching out the ribbons will be super easy and only take a minute, but I also want the black lace so I’ll be removing the lace and swapping it to the other pair.

>>10262614
Which means that if anyone wants a pair of the black with white lacing and lace resewn on for cheap, then I’ll let them go for drastically less than retail. If all goes well then the alterations should be unnoticeable from the originals.

>>10262614
but like.. you could just wear white otks on top of the black ones and pull the lace over.

>>10262638
But anon, that way you wouldn't be able to tell an interesting story at the meet about how you cut up your Moitié socks for street credit.

>>10262638
Wearing two pairs of OTKs isn’t very comfortable and you’d have find ones that line up right and gamble on the black underneath not distorting the color of the white, and the lace bunching up because it has the top of anther OTKS to drape over. It doesn’t sound like the best idea.

>>10262644
I do it with pic related and it looks fine. I imagine it could be uncomfortable if your shoes are on the small side or if it's really warm where you live.

>>10262648
How is the stretch on those? I suppose it’s something I could try but their first OTK release was not sized well so I hesitated on getting those (they stated they made this new release bigger/longer). The first release were UTKs on me so I didn’t want to try again until I saw them state they had fixed it.

>>10262644
>gamble on the black underneath not distorting the color of the white
No offense but do you think if a black person wears white OTKs it distorts the colour?

>>10262657
Lol I’m not black, that’s completely different. Other parts of the mostly white coord over my fair skin could look weird vs. the one section that has solid black underneath, sort of like wearing a black bra with a white blouse.

>>10262657
Have you never seen someone's bra show through their shirt, you psycho? What if a black person wears a white bra under a see-through black shirt, can you wrap your brain around that?

>>10262551
i tried, my SS fucked up the reservation. i'm sure i wasn't the only one.

>>10262670
Which SS did you use? I've been disappointed with my SS lately. She's nice and I'm sure tries her best, but it's just not enough when I'm paying someone $$ for mostly webshop orders.

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>>10262650
I can't compare it to the other release. I bought mine in person last year, was that the first release? They are OTKs on me.

>>10262687
Oh sorry, I meant those first lace top OTKs they made. I bought 3 pairs and was so sorely disappointed that I wouldn’t get another OTK release until they confirmed they fixed the length.

Sorry for the stupid question but what's the reference for this headdress ? Maybe I'm retarded but I can't find it anywhere.

>>10262701
I don’t think it was rereleased, so it’s old stock. It’s hard to say which though

>>10262616
I’d be interested in buying them from you if everything turns out well! You have an email I can message you through, anon?

anyone has photos of outfit with the arm covers?

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They didn't release black lace on white to match my Silent Moon, so I'm happy for this idea. Thanks, anon(s)

>>10262650
I like them a lot better than the last OTK release. They're longer and stretchier, and breathe better.

>>10262984
look through Moitie's official twitter, mana's twitter, and their likes

>>10263057
obvs Mana has photos with them, I was looking for maybe more "live" outfits of non-model girls

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Agreed
>>10262701
Are these shoes moitie too?

>>10262417
Received mine today and they are really stretchy all around, even the lacing. Should be good for a range of sizes!

>>10263071
How long are they really?

>>10263069
Hard to say from that photo. Doesn't look like they are

Did anyone get any updates on, or receive, the KL collab? Aside from that one fb post, I haven't heard of any updates.

>>10262701
its an archival piece. Sometimes they use old shit that they're not rereleasing. This is one of those times.

>>10240484
what a photo!

>>10263200
I ordered both colors plus hair accessories and I haven’t heard anything. I’m really fustrated at the lack up updates or information. It makes me not even want them anymore.

Anyone know if they will re-release the black colorway? The blue keeps going in and out of stock but no black

>>10263069
I believe the shoes are from queen bee, fanny wears them a lot

Is the only time Mana is going to be available for autographs at AWA the Tea Party?

Sorry for stupid question.

>>10263279
I also await impatiently.

>>10263265
I just got my shipping notice for the hair accessories so you should get it too.

>>10263927
I still hold vague hope it'll be stealth restocked with the release of the other bag

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>>10264204
They had 1 in stock at Atelier Pierrot Osaka last time I checked

Has anyone tried to hand wash their cutsews or is it just strictly dry clean only? I notice all of the tags on all my moitie pieces pretty much say the same thing (not to use water and not to use bleach/harsh chemicals) and I even found that "do not use water" icon on a tag on a cutsew piece that I own, which has minimal amount of lace. Has anyone tried to handwash any of their moitie pieces? (beside socks/tights) pic sorta related

>>10264905
I've been hand washing all my MMM for twelve years now and I've never had any issue.

>>10264905
I put all my Moitie in the washing machine with a low temperature and cycle

I remember an anon was looking for this https://item.fril.jp/1f9540ebd86883748eb118ed9cda44a4

The acceptance emails for AWA modeling are out!

Does anyone own the Silent Moon re-release? Do you know if you can put it in the washing machine? The tag says handwash only, but most of my dresses that say so can still be thrown in the washing machine if I put it on a gentle program.

>>10269090
Which colour?

>>10269108
Does that matter? Material/print is the same for all of them? But I have black.

>>10269090
I put mine in the washing machine and it’s fine, I just removed the ribbon ahead of washing. Mine is white.

Same for >>10264905 I have machine washed my cutsews.

>>10269230
Thank you anon! Yeah I always remove all the ribbons/loose parts as well. I just felt a bit worried about washing it, after people mentioned how bad the print went of the first release.

>>10266047
Guess that means my fat ass didn't make the cut.

I suppose they don't send out denial emails.

Why won't Moitie make a different gate print?

>>10269739
they dont have a designer now

>>10269751
Mana designed the gate prints

>>10269739

Royal Gate.

Do you think Ritual will ever be re-released? I still regret selling the white JSK, I even lost money on it.

A friend agreed to get the battery bank for me in Japan and bring it to me when she comes back from her trip. I pray it gets to her alright

>>10270468
I’m jelly anon. Good luck! I hope it gets back to you safely!

>old bloomers
>has negative feedback
>sold for 20.000 JPY
Have you ever seen such expensive secondhand undergarments? Why would someone buy that? They look quite short so you can't even use them for a peeking bloomers look.

>>10271323
I wanted them so bad and would have bought them if they weren't so exorbitantly priced...

>>10271323
Have these, they’re knee length

>>10271341
There is a long cut, these are the short ones. I saw both cuts sold this year for much less so I'm a little confused.

>>10271323
the lace is so gorgeous it makes me weep

>>10271540
>I'm a little confused.
Same. Someone was trying to sell a skirt with that lace a few weeks ago and people were giving her shit for the price.

>>10271601
There are several blouses and dresses with that lace so it's not hard to find or expensive if you take the time to look.

>>10237886
https://twitter.com/non_tychmrchch/

Did Mana ever say why he likes words with the letter M?

>>10271323
I wish they would release bloomers with original cotton lace like this now...or just bloomers at all, really.

gulls who own the gardenia op, what does the fabric feel like? how weighty/thick is it?

>>10271969
I lost hope so I started to look for other options. AatP/btssb sometimes releases bloomers with cotton rose lace that looks almost the same as the rose lace Moitie used to release. Alice Auaa and h.naoto regularly release bloomers too.

>>10271969
wonder if Moitie might consider it if someone directed their attention to that listing and how much it sold for

>>10272011
Doubt it, considering someone tried with shirring ribbon and they were told there wasn’t a plan of rereleasing it.

>>10272014
If a bunch of potential buyers tell them they are interested in a certain type of item, it'll increase the chance of them working on it. They seem to care for opinions now, had a survey for sock type preference

>>10272014
really sucks, 'cause i'm sure shirring ribbon would make a killing...bloomers, too.

>>10271607
That skirt ended up selling right away for her asking price, too. I think the prices for those pieces are too high, but I guess that’s just the market price now.

>>10272383
>That skirt ended up selling right away for her asking price, too
It didn't. Nobody bought it on cgl and she put it on facebook for less.

>>10272014
But these are bloomers, it goes perfectly with their current business plan of not releasing main-pieces unless it's a collab

And we could just ask for bloomers in general, not specifically these
>>10272553

Review for the latest wristcuffs: they suck

I figured the reason ww managed to have ample stock for lace items this time is because they’ve lowered the lace quality by so much. Comparing to the lace on the chokers I got last year, the embroidery thread count lowered and the holes in the lace are larger. They now look so sad, stiff and not elegant at all. And i got 3 pairs fml. The socks are okay i guess if you don’t stare at your legs up close. But the wristcuffs man....even the ones i got from some chinese brand have better quality lace wtf

>>10273318
So would you say the stock photos are inaccurate?

>>10273318
do you mind taking some detail shots?

>>10273373
Different anon, but I'd say they are completely accurate. Although anon is completely correct about them being stiff and rough.

M>>10273318
Not sure why you are acting like it’s news? It’s the same lace as the first choker, the lace socks, the ankle socks (they have another lace too) the krad collab and the Catherine dress. We knew it was lesser with the chokers.

I have the old wrist-cuffs and also ordered the new ones so I'll take comparison pics when I receive them

>>10273942

based anon. Looking forward to your pics when you receive them.

>>10273318
Yeah...touching the lace on the new socks and then the old lace on some of my other pieces is just...really disillusioning.

>>10273556
>>10273556
I kinda like the stiffness. it helps keep them in shape better when worn

>>10273614
nayrt but as someone else who has both the choker and the new cuffs/socks... it feels like even more of a downgrade. the stiffness is okay with me but the cuffs feel so much rougher than the choker, it definitely makes me think i overpaid.

i want to keep buying moitie's releases to show support but i also keep getting disappointed by the results, shit sucks.

>>10273380
Forgive the lighting in my room, but this is the wristcuffs (top) versus the choker (bottom). I can try to take a proper comparison during the day tomorrow along with the lace from an older bolero I have, if people are interested in more shots.

So is Moitie taking their sizing notes from AP now? Saves me money I guess...

>>10273380
>>10274549

Here’s a comparison between the new wrist cuffs, new OTKs, older choker and older OTKs. They all have the same lace design, but as you can see from the photo the new lace embroidery is much thinner and it feels like the netting is sparser, so I have a very different first-hand experience than >>10273614 anon

>>10273942
Also would love to see the comparison pics

>>10274694
I think the new ones look nicer but Idk I'm not an expert in lace construction

>>10274694
>>10274734
The netting is much sparser and starchier on the new ones, not to mention it's trimmed so much more sloppily around the edges.

>>10274694
Different anon but here's pics of the same lace designs from their original release years.

>>10274841
Dropped pic

>>10274694
Hold me, /cgl/. I don't want other brands to go the way of AP.

>>10274734
They look more "neat" in a close-up, but the structure would snag and tear much more easily.

Does anyone have any coord pics of the Gardenia aprons? Like how they look with other clothes? Tempted to buy it but I wanna see if it looks good on other stuff

>>10274694
I hate that these are both since the revival. They could have kept decent lace, and, yet ...

>>10274879
I am very interested as well. I was looking at the sizing but since the skirt is 60cm long, I feel like it would look bad with most other items, as 60 is really long compared to most skirts.

>>10270468
She just sent me a pic with the battery bank in her hands! I'm so happy and can't wait to have it

>>10274879
Chou chou ange twitter and Kera twitter has coords with it

>>10274843
This looks much better than my old wrist-cuffs