/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Weird how we have to send you have to send you a pic of our merch to join. That seems really bizarre. Plus a famous con artist posted recently on IG that they had their apartment broken into and all their merch stolen ahead of a con.

>>10162318
Who?

>>10162326
Komunhorangi

>>10162326
Dropped pic

>>10162318
> Weird how we have to send you have to send you a pic of our merch to join.

You mean the discord?
It's not used to decide if the art is 'good enough' or anything like that, just to make sure that everyone in the discord actually sells in AA. That way the discord isn't clogged with people asking beginners questions, and can actually be used for constructive conversation & networking.

>>10162318
It's not for judging, it's just to prove that you've done some effort to try be an AA artist and has enough experience to avoid drowning the discord in basic beginner questions covered by the FAQ.

>>10162350
Wouldnt an online portfolio/store be sufficient?

>>10162359
>a picture of your table or merchandise
>or merchandise

your question is answered by reading comprehension
A store or portfolio with pictures of your merchandise counts.

Responding back to one of the questions about why AA recently has blown up in the old threads— I think it’s people like Christopher Cayco (the vlogger) that are ruining the artist alleys for everyone.

His vlogs are great I love them don’t get me wrong, but his art sucks and he has been using the same 10 prints or so at every convention he’s been at for almost 2 years?
Like how is he expecting anyone to ‘notice’ him how he wants if he does nothing to provide anything back to the attendee/customer.
He thinks when people approach him he needs to “pitch the sale” (let them hold the print in their hands as he says) and he thinks that -that’s- how anyone gets sales in the first place.
Guilt tripping them into selling IMO.

I think it’s literally his type that’s wrong with the AA community. He thinks he -has- to sell his work, but not his work selling itself. He also doesn’t make any new merch (one print every year) but is super quick to announce “I do conventions full time” to anyone who alludes to the fact that he’s been there before.
He’s literally barely only getting by and at this point is just taking up space where hard working artists could be getting in who actually give a damn about the attendees of artist alley. (often making new prints and merch for example)

>>10162425
Yeah his vlogs are entertaining but at some point, any insight or advice he has plateaus. There's a barrier he has yet to pass or maybe this is his max level. Artists like him stay stagnant and become jaded. You're right though, so many artists have this mentality that they gotta push their art and do a sales pitch, but if your shit is good, you don't even have to say a word and people will just hand you money.

>>10162425
So you're saying that his monotonous advice has people thinking "I can do it too if I just sell aggressively" so more people want to do AA? Because I do agree with that.

But I don't know how maybe people actually watch him, as a vendor personally I find his videos really boring and uninspiring. I think it's because of what you're saying, which all results in a rather soulless approach/experience at his booth.

I think honestly I'd blame AANI more, it's blown up since it first started and I think it becomes kind of a hugbox regardless of art quality, which gives people false hope regarding their own sales potential, because yeah good art will pretty much sell itself, but people start off in AA thinking their art is great and can't understand when they're the only person who didn't make a profit at XYZ Con.

>>10162425

I kind of agree with >>10162461. Of course motivation and support is good for budding artists, but there comes a point when it because detrimental to their growth. There's an obvious hugbox mentality going on in the art community. Just take Neko. Is she a good artist? No. But she got tens of thousands of pity followers from that bullying video. Not that I condone that kind of nasty behavior at all, but...you have all these people throwing praise and support at mediocre artists and basically telling them you can do it! Yes, you can, but maybe when you improve in like 5 years.

There's that, and the spread of accessible manufacturers. I think we've all discussed how AA merch has evolved and become much more profitable. Seeing all these mediocre artists get into AA and seeing how easy it is to get your designs printed on cool merch! just makes it more attractive to other mediocre artists, and it's a chain reaction.

Sorry if some of that didn't make sense/flow, I'm kind of brain fried right now.

Question- how popular are holographic items?

I've considered buying some holographic film to put over buttons and posters. I'm sure the buttons will work out well, but do people really want holographic posters? Would it be fine to make like 1-2 of them and charge higher prices due to the special effect?

>>10162425
>>10162461

Idk, I feel like if an artist's work is not up to par with generating a decent amount of sales they'd take the hint to get better but at the same time there are people who sell at artist alley for fun as opposed to profit because they don't need to for a living.

I may be in the minority when I say this but AA's whole "You have to be super serious about selling or you are wasting everyone's time" attitude is a bit annoying and contributed to destroying what made AA in the first place, a place for artists to meet fans and sell their work on the side. I get that the influx of artists applying to AA now a days is rough but that was bound to happen at some point with the rise of social media. Online stores are better in regards to selling as a career anyway and not bound to burst anytime soon like AA

As far as hugbox mentality, that's nothing new and has be prevalent since the days of FanartCentral/Deviantart

>>10162480
Of course the hugbox has always existed, but if you're wondering why AA has blown up, I think it's the main contributing factor. I think what >>10162468 said about accessible manufactured goods has worked in combo to make it the perfect soup of delusion and opportunity.

And I don't think most people think "you're wasting everyone's time" if you're not super serious, but I think in the current state of AA, you're wasting your own time. It's not a problem to do it for fun, but the annoying thing is, as was mentioned, when people take to the internet in a rage, confused as to why they're not making money.

And going along with that, I think people doing well in AA aren't the ones I see complaining about how competitive it is now. It's the people with shitty art that blame others for their lack of profit. If you want to do AA for fun and don't care about money, you can post it to Twitter and have fun.

Also isn't it a better world for artists where AA *can* be a full time job? I think AA being serious has only helped artists get better and be more independent, instead of working shitty retail or corporate design jobs.

>>10162478
I'd personally love to see more prints with holographic film. I think it's a nice way to add a little something, although it works better with simple designs as opposed to already busy prints. Whether or not there's a huge market for it out there is another thing, so maybe try it out with smaller sized prints first? And having exclusive prints instead of offering a print with or without holo will definitely help ease in higher prices.

>>10162486
This, the reason some people forbid it is theft concerns (I used to not get it either, partly because in the past not everyone was carrying a high res camera around in their phone, so there must be some other reasons too?) I think a good workaround would be "please ask before photographing" sign, so you can intercede and make them get your info into it somehow/ prevent a photo that's just a closeup of a piece of art to reproduce it.

>>10162404
I mean a screenshot of many types of stores wouldn't include physical photos of real merchandise, just auto generated previews.
iirc, since the point of the merch photo submission is just to indicate that you're seriously interested in selling and not just a casual dabbler who will clog it up with newb questions, showing that you have a dedicated portfolio site and professional web presence may be fine.

Dumb question
If a print comes out washed out, how should I adjust the file colors for printing? Do I darken colors via level correction or just throw a low opacity black over it or what

>>10162543
Prints are done in cmyk color you are probably working in rgb color.

>>10162543
Make sure it's CMYK and then if you have access to Photoshop, do adjustment layers for Hue/Saturation (adjust specific color ranges individually), Curves, and Brightness/Contrast. That usually helps me if I have to go from RGB to CMYK after a piece done.

>>10162552
I wanted to say I was working in cymk but you might be right, I can't remember if I exported the file in cymk to the printer ..

>>10162483
Oh of course. AA being an option for full time work is excellent for sure.. The "you're wasting everyone's time" is mainly in regards to people who think because they "work harder" than so and so they somehow deserve a space more than others like >>10162425 seems to think. I've seen this type of attitude pop up a couple times in regards to how many more people are applying to AA.

And you are right If you are good enough for a show with a juried process you'll get in(most times if they aren't biased) and won't have much to worry about if it's lottery then working hard only helps so much.

>>10162552
update
I'm RETARDED. I didn't export it out to cymk before sending to the printer

Time to get another sample

>>10162425
I enjoy watching Caycos videos. And he does make it seem like AA is easy money. In his videos he’s nonchalantly revealed his sales numbers a few times and said things like “this con was okay, I only made $4k, could have been better” or “if you’re not making $1k per day at AX, you’re doing something severely wrong.” He only sells prints and majority are black and white original art. So viewers probably get the impression that anyone with prints can make thousands $ per con

i need advice

i first went into cons like 'yea im gonna sell my original creepy art' but after that didnt work out well it became 'oh ill sell some fanart to help cover the costs'

the number of people buying my original stuff became zero and the fanart took over my entire table. now im a slave to it because no one in the galaxy gives a single shit about original work unless it has a recognizable anime character on it. i have zero creativity now, completely creatively bankrupt, and i secretly resent myself because i just ride the coattails of whatever anime is popular now and people buy my soulless endeavours.

i hate myself and i hate fanart and i just want to get back to drawing my creepycute stuff but i don't have the mental fortitude to print 2-3 original works and watch it sit in storage for literal years because not a single person was interested in buying it

>>10162614
If you're not happy, you need to move into doing the thing you enjoy.

Introducing 2-3 new original pieces every convention will add up over time and you'll eventually move away from fanart. One of the problems you have is that your current display is attracting the wrong audience for creepy cute art if all you're displaying is fanart. Get that creepy stuff up there front and center ASAP and those who are interested will eventually come.

>>10162569
It happens to the best best of us. Try again. That's what the samples are for anon

>>10162614
Hey man, a lot of people buy original stuff in certain aesthetics, and creepy is usually one of them. Not to sound mean, but people are more likely to buy mediocre fanart than mediocre original stuff. You might just need to work on your art skills a little, make your original stuff a little more marketable. There's a lot of generic imagery that people like to buy that you could implement in your own work with a twist. You could also do fanart of older properties that align more with your art interests instead of doing flavor of the month stuff.

thanks for your replies, anons

>>10162623
this is another problem i have, i dont really know how to make that kind of stuff prominent, it feels like people purposefully ignore anything i'm trying to feature and always make a beeline to my standard buttons/charms instead. i literally have to say 'there is stuff here' because they will not know it exists even though its right in front of them smack dab in the centre of the table

>>10162647
desu if the problem is that i just suck it would make me feel better. at least thats a goal i can work towards. if the niche for the stuff i like is so little that theres no market for it then my doom & gloom feeling would only magnify
im a nobody so im attaching the type of thing id like to sell
ive been feeling so shitty about making art lately i feel like i dont know how to make good art anymore
this picture is missing something and i dont know what, but if it was actually good, it would be a big portion of what my booth would be composed of and what im trying to work towards while ridding myself of the DREADED FANART

>>10162647
It's low quality. Sorry anon. Work on cleaning up your lining and use more dynamic angles and coloring techniques.

>>10162685
kawaii guro does have a market, i sell a lot of it but certain color palletes/style are definitely preferred. I've noticed a heavy lean towards over the top shoujo with obnoxious amounts of pink/blue and sparkles tends to sell the best.

>>10162685
yikes anon I know you kind of came here for honest advice but if that's your work, it's not selling because there isn't a market for creepy cute original art.... it's not awful and is fine for 'online posting' but i wouldn't consider it sellable, even if it was like...more rendered or whatever

>>10162685
I wouldn't pay money for that, I think I can see your problem.

>>10162685
This is top rough for a print, it looks like a sketch. Work on your skills, if you want to keep it simple then stylize it more instead of having it look like something hastily thrown together.
Try to do more interesting compositions with better focus, you will want to have the girl, hands and knives on the floor pop out more to highlight the creepy cute and as it is now they just blend in with the other clutter.

>>10162685
Store link?

>>10162318
How is sending a picture of your merch related to a con artist getting their merch stolen from their apartment building? Like wtf is the correlation??? Just confused

>>10162685
It's definitely a matter of skill. Even as someone who generally loves more sketchy/rough looks, your work just looks sloppy and unfinished. I don't think you have to go for a super polished or rendered look, but when your lines and colors are messy as a stylistic choise you really need to make sure everything else is on model in order for it to look good instead of just a scribble. The color choice is also pretty bad, as it makes everything blend together. I understand using a limited color palette for a more cohesive look, but that doesn't mean using the same few colors for the whole picture: instead try using separate colors for the background and foreground in order to make the important bits stand out. That's probably the reason why you feel like no one noticed your original art: there's nothing that pops out and catches their attention so it's no wonder they'd ignore it in favor of a character they immidiately recognize.

Other than that, you're just genuinely being overly dramatic over the whole matter. You really don't have to do AA if the current state of things makes you so miserable. Consider maybe taking a break from tabling to recharge a bit and use that time to improve your art. Spending some time just focusing on drawing the things you actually want to draw without having to worry about making back table costs will probably help you take a step back and properly reconsider what you really want to do. It's not impossible to only sell originals, but it obviously requires more skill and/or a certain aesthetic or a niche to sell well.

my dudes, i am not actually selling people this quality


i just did something fast to try to convey what i wanted to sell


but either way no one is wrong in that it sucks and i would need more interesting angles, contrast and colour usage


anyway, since all i know is how to draw anime people against boring gradient backdrops now, i'll consider it an endeavour to get better at my craft since i've become complacent from sales of the same thing repeatedly

>>10162747
>my dudes, i am not actually selling people this quality
>i just did something fast to try to convey what i wanted to sell
I swear we have this converstation whenever someone posts their work to ask for feedback. People will obviously comment on the work you show us, so post the work you're actually going to sell instead of some rushed "example" so that you get the feedback you're hoping for, instead of dismissing all critique with "oh this isn't actually it".
Also if you yourself think your art isn't good, why are you doing AA in the first place?

>>10162747
>I was only pretending to be retarded

You expected to get your ass kissed?

>>10160463
w-what a question haha
sorry for late reply, but...i'm quite bad at 'polished' work. all my pieces that are more precise than this end up looking dead.

>>10162741
not her, but are there any nice sketchy artists you'd recommend? i love new inspo.

I'm really struggling to branch out on fan art. I've been disinterested in anime for a few years but art is my sole income and I'm slowly falling behind. Most of my fan art is a bit dated now. I've done a few bnha pieces but beyond that I dont even know what's popular these days.

>>10162757
Clean line work takes time to develop as a skill. You have options other than lining though. Maybe a line less style or blended may suit you better if you are messy. You can always take the eraser to your piece after you've laid your color work down.

Best type of filing storage for storing, organizing and transporting prints/artwork of various sizes?

>>10162553
Not artist alley related, but as a freelance illustrator, you'd be surprised by the amount of clients I get who don't know what RGB or CMYK are, nor do they realize an image created for web/mobile cannot just be printed.

>client commissions me to do art for website, so it work in RGB
>comes back and asks why the colors look terrible when printed
>facepalm

>That title

Hehe

Anyway question. Is it odd to have more than one style when selling your work, like two very different styles. I noticed I have a paint style with softer more muted colors, a simple saturated colors graphic style and then really colorful traditional chibis. The styles tend to clash with one another but I love doing both.

>>10162614
You are putting way too much pressure on yourself and thinking way hard. I think you should be asking yourself how you can build the audience for your original stuff instead of being resentful towards fanart. Part of your problem is the attitude.

I know a lot of artists who only sell original art AND artist alley is their full-time job.

It's like >>10162647 says, if they see mediocre art, they may still buy fanart because of the emotional connection. They have no connection to your original work, so create a connection. Based on >>10162685 I think you need to push it a little further. You're stopping at the "sketch" phase and telling yourself that's enough.

>>10162824
I think having two styles is okay, but it's probably best if you keep them separated on your table. If you were getting in the realm of every piece being a different style, that'd probably harm sales, but I think just two is fine.

>>10162757
NYART but komunhorangi is all sketch, if you look at her lineart none of it is ‘clean’. But it’s her composition, colors, and style that really just make things pop and look really nice. She’s a pretty good example of a sketch-based artist

>>10162747
Here is an example of how you really need to push your ideas if you want a chance of someone buying it.

This is like yours, obviously a quick sketch, with your same idea, but you need to really think about how to make something more interesting. I'd say my sketch is like 50% pushed, it could still be much cooler or more graphic.

>>10163026
Oh also wanted to add, my sketch tends to suggest a darker more serious style, but think you can do the same layout but in a clean bright vector / paper cut out style for example, and it would have a much higher chance selling than the original sketch.

>>10162685
It’s a bit boring looking with a flat perspective, a good way to look at your art is to think
>would I buy this if I was the customer?
and determine it through that perspective. There is most definitely people who like the “kawaii uguuu blood guro”, much like myself, so that’s not the problem.

Hi anons! I'm tabling at my first convention this fall, and am really excited, but also pretty nervous. I am a comic artist hoping to network and get my art out there more and build a readership up for my work.

I do a lot of B&W/screentone work and flat-color work. Have any of you anons ever sold/known someone who sold black and white prints?

Do any of you do freebies? To be honest the whole reason I am doing cons is to get my original work out there. I am going to be doing merch of some cutesy stuff, Pokemon, etc., but have some of my original characters there too. I thought of maybe doing some little stickers with a QR code to my site and passing them out to people with a business card, or sticking them in with orders. Thoughts?

>>10163135
We can’t see your art so we can’t give you thoughts.
Post an example of your art if you want any feedback ffs

>>10163026
Haha this is similar to what I pictured too but I didn't want to spend the time doing the redline. Maybe even pushing the extreme high angle even more so the focus is on the bath soup and you can cheat the perspective.

>>10162478
I do holographics on specific types of prints that play off and benefit from the finish (stained glass prints, gem prints, rainbow prints) and they outsell the plain copies I also sell (at $20 vs $15). People will definitely pay more for it if it benefits significantly from it.

>>10163135
I have a friend that sells very similar stuff to what you described and she does very well for herself.

>>10163135
I did a freebie at my last con--I do comics too and I put together a tiny sampler of my work--and found it majorly cut into my sales. People would browse my comics looking like they were going to buy something, then they'd spot the freebie, abandon their other shopping to just grab the freebie and leave. So be prepared for a free sticker to cut into your sticker sales.

I also found the free comics worked really well for networking with other artists tabling because we'd swap comics but didn't work to gain regular fans, very few people that took those free comics came back to my table to buy more or followed me on social media. Maybe it was just a bad con for it but next time I'm experimenting with making the freebie free with purchase instead and seeing how that goes.

If you want new readers for your comics my suggestion would be to make mini comics of your work and sell those, and have one "entry level" comic that's $5 or less for people to impulse buy. The 10 page self-contained comic I sell for $3 has gotten me way more new readers and fans than freebies (which I think most people don't appreciate) or original character merch (which most people don't buy because they have no connection to your OCs).

>>10162685
I think there’s a pretty decent and dedicated market for this sort of art on clothes and bags, and as pins. Creepycute seems to be more wearable than collectible these days.

>>10163135
There was an artist at Dragoncon that did 100% black and white work combined with a gold foil and it was beautiful. I would look closely at paper stock and printing quality. If you get it done text weight gloss it may just not look as cool as 100lb cover matte.

>>10162579
I think a big selling point on his, are he makes posters of the anime most people know. It's things that appeal to everyone from deep anime fan to someone average in society. He sticks to a composition that sells, the every character. And he know it sells well, and now he can't self explore more because it's what is bringing in the $. I've watched the black and white prints move, and it's less that they are black and white and more that it appeals to car enthusiasts. Also the fish eye brings in an eye catcher.

>>10164033
But the same prints at literally every convention? How to the attendees feel about stuff like that? He just re-uses the same shit over and over as if the customers aren’t going to notice.

>>10164033
I feel like his compositions actually aren't that great? He gets away with it by shoving every character in there but I don't particular find his group prints to be super impressive. If you look at someone like Kehasuk who manages to do ensemble posters in a fun, stylized way - Cayco's seem really soulless.

>>10163135
IF you're going to do freebies, do them as "thank you gifts" for a sale. Like "make any purchase from me and get this sticker free". I've done this before and it works really well. You can also try doing "follow me on social media and get this sticker free" and it'll help boost your following on IG and Twitter.

Is it frowned upon to have a table of handmade plushies using other people’s patterns? I’m not creative enough to think of my own designs. I would only use the ones that allow you to sell the final product, of course.

>>10164180
Yes. Learn to make your own patterns or gtfo.

>>10164180
It's not really a great look and I don't think most AA would strictly allow it, since it's meant to be stuff you made entirely yourself, design included. Truthfully you're probably not ready for AA, if you can't muster enough creativity to even try to come up with SOMETHING original. Spend some time practicing your own designs and if it doesn't pan out, maybe keep it a hobby thing.

>>10164183
>>10164189
Yeah that’s what I was expecting. I’ll probably stick to cosplay commissions until I can make a non ugly plush on my own. Thanks for not letting me embarrass myself at an AA anons

i feel bad for the person that made that one bat pattern that someone else using went viral with

>>10164180
As long as they are patterns for sale/free and you aren't just copying someone then its fine.

>>10164289
No.

>>10162760
that's fair. thanks.

>>10162966
neat, i like the fashion sketches.

>>10164290
Yes.

>>10164289
it's fine 'morally' I guess, given other shit in AA (resin stuff made from molds of official characters comes to mind) but there certainly would be a lot of frowning from other artists and people familiar with the patterns they were using.

>>10164287
beezeeart? i would say they got decent value out of it, didn't their kickstarter fund like 5x over?

Any ideas for environmentally friendly packaging? My brain instantly goes to brown paper bags but I don't know if that would seem cheap

>>10164386
>but there certainly would be a lot of frowning from other artists and people familiar with the patterns they were using.
why?

>>10164403
I don’t think paper bags would seem cheap! Especially if you fancied them up with some washi tape or something.

>>10164419
imagine selling those 'paint by colours' artworks at a convention. it's the same thing. you're just reproducing another artists work ENTIRELY, even if you made the product 'from scratch'.

>>10164403
Brown paper bags with a logo sticker or ribbon to seal, or even a stamped logo would definitely be super cute. Just depends on your execution.

>>10162757
Idk if you're still around but Yueko/Meltedbuns might be good inspo. Her lineart style is fairly sketchy looking but is still neat. It's prob a different kind of sketchy from what you're looking for though. Pic related.

>>10164425
Would it still be bad to sell a single toy made from a pattern you bought on etsy?

>>10164437
The judgement of a random person on the internet shouldn't really influence your decision imo, but for me there's a huge difference in having like...one or two plush made from another artist's patterns, and having the rest of your table be stuff that *you* designed and created, and having your whole ass table just being plushies you made from other people's patterns.

(FWIW: if the pattern maker allows it, I don't think there's anything wrong with and I don't judge people who make and sell plushies using other people's patterns online/in a flea market type setting, I just have an issue with it in ARTIST alley)

>>10164425
I don't see how using a pattern is any different than drawing fanart.

>>10164481
Because the pattern is like, 75% of the work. After that's drafted and finalized, it's just a matter of cutting out everything and putting it all together. Comparing it to doing fanart, where you're the one drawing it from start to finish, really makes no sense.

>>10164481
probably because you lack two brain cells to rub together

>>10164481
Are you serious? Using a pattern is more comparable to tracing art or doing paintovers.

>>10164430
appreciate it, this is cute as heck

>>10164481
Agreed.

>>10164497
You could argue that the design of the characters/IP you're using is 75% of the work. It's probably even more, since almost no one at AA buys original art, only fanart.

>>10164590
>You could argue that the design of the characters/IP you're using is 75% of the work.
No you can't, not unless you're pretty much directly tracing. Using an existing character design still means you have to come up with composition, pose, expression, style, color, values, shading and so on for your art.
Using a pattern is just cutting things and putting it together. Sewing requires skill, sure, but following a pattern is just technical work and requires no design or original art sense.

>>10164594
lol nayrt but i'd say the character/ip is 95% of the work
if you disagree, sell only original art instead

>>10164572
maybe more like using those pre-made pose dolls you see on deviantart

>>10164590
>>10164633
NAYRT, but as someone who sells original art /and/ has sewn as a hobby for over 10 years: following a pattern someone else has made is piss easy and requires close to no skill, and if you only sell plushies made using someone else's patterns you have no business being in the Artist Alley. And while fanart is obviously easier to sell, if your art is shit it's not like anyone will buy it anyway since they can just buy better art of the same character from the next booth over. But people do buy original art as long as it's well made and looks good, and that's why I stopped doing fanart in the first place since my original works actually sold better than my fanart pieces.
So stop being salty and making shit up just because you can't be assed to draft your own patterns.

>>10164649
i agree on the plush thing, it's disingenuous to the congoer because they think they're supporting the person who came up with the design whereas fanart is obviously fanart
but you'd have to be dense to think that fanart isn't it's own kind, if not worse, creative leeching / theft. at least the patterns we're talking about specifically allow resell, whereas IP is just.... yoink

>>10164663
No one denies fanart not being original. But as the anon who both draws and sews says, following patterns requires no skill. Drawing fanart still requires skill and design sense. You need the general basics of composition, anatomy, color theory and so on even if you base the character design on existing characters. Saying those two are almost the same just reveals that you can't draw.

>>10164663
No you're right, obviously fanart isn't all that morally white either. But saying that anything will sell as long as it's fanart is just silly and obviously a bit salty, especially in this context as it's used to justify something else.
Also in regards to selling fanart, in Japan where there's a huge culture around doujinshi and doujin goods in general there's kind of an unwritten rule that it's alright to sell fanmade merch, books, etc. because the money you're charging is the manufacturing cost. It's why a lot of fan merch from Japan is so cheap in comparison to what you see in the west where they're obviously being sold for profit. So with that mindset I'm personally fine with selling fanart (as long as it's not a series where the original creator has explicitly stated that they don't allow it), but I think the pricing should follow the principle of making back manufacturing costs rather than how much profit you can get. It's one of the reasons why I started preferring original art, as I don't have to feel quilty about charging for it.
Although obviously this is just my take on it, and everyone should use their own judgement with things like this.

>>10164633
>>10164663
It's not the same thing at all. If you make a fanplush based on an existing character, no one will complain about it in AA if you design the plush and pattern yourself. Everyone here are aware that fanart isn't original and that most people here make money off other's IPs. No one are pretending that fanart isn't easier to sell than original art, but people would still require you to have made that art on your own. You use your own design ideas to plan the image, expression, style and so on, and if you make a fanplush where you decide how to stylize it, fit the parts together, design how it will look like in the end, it will be a lot more work than just cutting and sewing based on someone else designing it all for you. If you only make things according to an assembly recipe then you're more of a manufacturer than an artist.

>>10164644
Not at all. You would still need to come up with what you want to add on top of the doll. I've sewn plushies after patterns before, you really just cut and sew according to patterns and instructions. It's more like tracing or paint-by-numbers where you draw lines on top of lines, or fill color where you're told to. It's about following instructions over coming up with anything yourself.

>>10164594
>Using an existing character design still means you have to come up with composition, pose, expression, style, color, values, shading and so on for your art.

Yep, and you don't need to invest in a story, personality, characterization, emotional connection with consumers, history, etc. All of that is done for you. Definitely more than 75% of the work.

Using someone else's IP is just cutting and pasting things together. Drawing requires skill, sure, but stealing someone else's characters is just lazy work and requires no design or original art sense.

Are we really back in the fanart vs original argument loop again? Because of an anon who doesn't even draw either one?

Can we get back back to our regular inane topics plz?

For those of you that go to anime expo and have an online store, do you guys get almost all your yearly sales amount just at the expo?

Like say you get 300 sales in a year, so you get roughly 300 sales at AX or more or less?

>>10164668
>following patterns requires no skill
It absolutely does if you are making something complex. Most people don't even know how to thread a needle.

Idk why some people get so defensive of big corporate IP/copyright law. Just seems like they want an excuse to attack artists from a "moral" high ground. Same argument over and over, complete lack of self awareness.

>>10164854
Its because it requires no skill. Some kid will buy literally anything no matter what it looks like as long as its from a series they like. Find a drawing of a pokemon you did in 5th grade and I bet it would sell in artist alley.
non-fan art has to actually be good to sell.

>>10164860
>I'm mad no one will buy my mediocre original art

every fucking year AX sticks me on an end row reeeeeeeee

>>10164742
I'm sorry, I'm having some trouble understanding your post so I hope this is the answer you were looking for.

I have an online store, I sell at Anime Expo, and I also sell at other conventions. My online stores are consistently where I want them to be however I sell so much at Anime Expo that I am comfortable with taking my store down for three weeks (a week before AX, the week of, and the week after) just to focus on AX. That's how much I sell at AX. AX weekend makes about 3-4 months of online sales in one weekend so it is worth it for me to close my store for a few weeks to focus on prep.

>>10164742
I had around 1600 online orders last year. According to Square, I made 237 card transactions during AX. I don't have the number of cash sales but if we assume I made just as many cash sales as card sales then it's about 500 sales.

>>10164926
>>10164920
Thanks! This is the type of info I was looking for.
I got around roughly 100,000k views on my online store this past year so I was going to take that amount of sales and just bring around that much to anime expo since there will be around 120,000 attendees give or take.

Do AX secondary artists get to try for the returning-artists-only FCFS?

>>10165013
No. It's primary artists only. Secondaries can try during gen reg.

>>10164403
Paper bags are *not* better for the environment than plastic. You could look at biodegradable plastic instead. This is a pet peeve of mine, I see so many artists say "I'm switching to paper packaging for the environment" when a simple google search will tell you that it's actually worse. It makes me wonder if those artists are actually doing it for the environment or just to look green.

>>10165055
They're trying to do it for the environment, they're just naive/too lazy to check. The surface reasoning is "people can recycle the paper but not the plastic", then no followup occurs before getting caught up in thinking about how to decorate it, where to buy it cheapest, etc.

Can anyone help me out with the name of the type of clamp that's securing the poles to the table in this pic from the inspo file? I want to have poles secured to my table so I can hang a banner between them but I'm dumb and can't figure out what type of hardware I need.

>>10165703
just search for metal clamp or c clamp

>>10164403
You probably should aim for something made with recycled materials.

>>10162329
I remember seeing this and thinking it was really unfortunate but REALLY foolish on her part. She left all her packed luggage in a common area/lobby of her apartment building overnight so she didnt have to lug it down multiple flights of stairs in the morning. The way she said it here is a little misleading, noone actually broke into her unit and possibly not even into the building itself as it could have been a neighbor who took it.

I would maybe MAYBE do that with items like clothing/hygiene items etc but not thousands of dollars worth of high end merch like charms and t-shirts...

Its my first year at AX, are there any particularly bad spots? I figure since they fixed the AC and with the sheer number of attendees any spot was a good spot

>>10165797
Not really, even the furthest backest of backs still gets traffic. I was once in the way back left corner somethings and did perfectly fine, more than fine.

>>10164860
Did you miss all the bitching about bad artists complaining about not getting sales? People expect even bad fanart to sell and gets surprised it doesn’t. Fanart will sell easier but still needs to look decent. Using designs based on IPs isn’t enough, why buy something mediocre from you when everyone else draws the same figures but better? You just come off as salty.

Why are some people on AANI so incapable of answering basic customer service queries. They jump to scamming suspicions so fast, when all the customer did is ask to modify their shipping address or make a polite inquiry about consolidating items.

>>10165845
Are you talking about the 7 enamel pins post?

>>10165845
Did you even read the entire post you fucking dumbass? I just went back to read it too and she clearly mentions it was two people asking for the same thing (one if every one of her pins) to be sent to China. If that’s not sus I don’t know what is.

>>10165898
It’s not the only post I was thinking of, but the most recent one yes.

>>10165935
If you reread, the two people aren’t even in the same country because she states it as ‘foreign countries’ and the shipping prices are different. The only similarity is that they’re both newer accounts asking about the leap in shipping price for one pin compared to seven... which is more indicative of the shipping calculator maybe being off than someone trying to replicate your design. Factories don’t even need the pin itself to make bootlegs, and inefficient to buy pins from an foreign artist- which is pretty costly- to do so.

>>10165800
Sweet thank you

Any Canadian have experience bringing a photo stand over to the states? I wanted to finally switch out my pvc polls, but it seems like the photo stand won't fit in my luggage.

>>10165845
>Why are some people on AANI so incapable of answering basic customer service queries.

Have to agree. I don’t even have an online store and many solutions seem obvious.

Once in awhile I’ll see a post “buyer asked to change the shipping address but if I edit the shipping on my end, I lose sellers protection. What do?” Just refund and have the buyer re-do the purchase.

>>10166107
I've heard people say they take photo stands in carryon and that if you let the airline people know beforehand the attendants will even stick it in the back of the compartment for you (or something? i remember hearing the attendants do something convenient with it during the flight)

>>10164854
While i think a few people do it for the reasons other anons are mentioning (jealousy over the real or imagined ease of selling fanart) there are also, i think, some people who don't realize that selling art from a big IP is really different ethically then selling art from something small. ex maybe some people imagine what it would feel like to have somebody else profiting off their own small webcomic or pet project and think, "wow, that's awful," when pretty much everyone selling fanart in AA is doing so for franchises that are having no trouble making bank on their own merch (and to boot, almost all fanartists desist from selling merch of properties where the creator has asked for no fanart to be sold, even relatively popular and profitable ones like Homestuck or Undertale)

Anon who was looking for enviro friendly packaging, seen these?
https://www.clearbags.com/bags/eco

>>10166361
this sounds nice until you realize that its BECAUSE this practice is so pervasive that the indie creators are constantly harassed to allow fanart sales because otherwise how can you be so mean to your fans, they just want to make cool fan stuff!!! (and make a bunch of money)

the opposite happens, instead of fanartists desisting, indie creators just have to begrudgingly allow it, because there's no possible way to fight it. re: homestuck, undertale, your very examples.

>>10166401
For Undertale at least I heard it was less 'harassed until they begrudgingly allowed it' and more 'thought they would entirely lose the ability to sue for damages in the event someone violated their copyright on a large scale until they actually looked into it and learned they could still shut someone down if they were actually eating into their profits'

That said we're all on a ticking time bomb anyway, eventually large IP holders are going to go MPAA and decide the loss of 'fan goodwill' isn't enough deterrent to keep them from suing the pants off some people.

>>10166107
Will it fit in a golf bag? You can check those, and while they have their own fee, there's generally no weight limit.

>>10165230
>>10165055
This isn't entirely true either. Both paper and plastic packaging are equally as bad, the choice comes down to picking your poison- aquatic environments or terrestrial ones. Biodegradable plastic just has additives which attract the organisms that break it down.

Made $175 at a 5-hour con that took place in a high school today

Is that good or bad?

>>10167353
if you made profit, thats good.

>>10167353
>5 hours
>probably a small as hell no-name con if it's in a high school
I'd say you're lucky you made any profit. $175 is great considering the situation. Good for you, anon.

What are your thoughts on stuff like this? I haven't seen many of them for sale like I do with enamel pins but they seem really cute. I like that they can have more complex shading and colors, custom shapes, sticks onto things like a button.

>>10167380
They definitely have their market, especially for itabagging. Just...please don't get the kind of pin back that moves around a lot (pic related). I like the one in your reference pic a lot more. Way easier to pin to a bag and have it stay put.

Gawki steals art and concepts from yet ANOTHER artist. I swear, she has zero shame.

oh sweetie...

>>10167549
>tablecloth too small
I'm sorry but that was way too funny, I love it.

>>10167538
what, are you saying someone can own the concept of ‘painterly animals with flower gore’?

>>10167538
no one owns gore or possums, I would even say gawki’s looks better than the other two execution wise

I'm debating on getting rid of impulse items. Basically anything under $5. Especially $2 & $3 stickers and magnets. Those plus buttons take up space, and it bugs me I have to sell 3 $3 magnets to get $9 and just 1 $10 charm to get that.

I also hand cut all those magnets and stickers.

I've only done 3 cons so far and different things sell at different cons depending where I am, so I'm wondering if tossing my impulse items is a good idea or not, because do they really add up so much?

I'd rather get rid of them and have space for more $10 charms.

>>10167589
The issue is more so that gawki has been known throughout her entire art career as someone who "borrows" from other popular creators. Her entire style is based off of Feverworms... It's just frustrating to see her continuously take from other, less known, artists that have only recently started gaining popularity. I won't argue her's does look *great*, but it's upsetting.

>>10167549
Damn, I was hoping this was some kid but they’re in their mid-twenties.

>>10167660
oh god

>>10167607
Stickers and buttons make your shit look unprofessional as hell (like you’re at some damn craft fair) so toss them immediately, they’re eating into your profit and time that you could be using to draw charms and regular prints.

>>10167607
I've gotten rid of small buttons, still do stickers because I tend to do large/specialty stickers. But the time I spent doing art for buttons stopped making sense. Actually did better at Sakuracon for it too

>>10167607
I tend to have mine online but I don't really bring them to cons.

I think it's nice to have something for the kids to get but i only have three buttons and two sticker sheets out of 100s of other products

>>10167607
>getting rid of impulse items. Basically anything under $5.
You should keep a few things for around $5 or less, even if just behind the table. I always keep a few old designs or mildly defected products behind the table so if a kid with almost no money wants something, I'll have something for him/her. It makes a lot of people happy they can leave my table with something.

>>10167607
It may be worth your while to move towards selling buttons and stickers only as packs/sheets.

>>10167538
Those are all really popular motifs. I understand the issue you are describing but I don't think this piece was a good example.

I want out of this dumb art shit.
This made me sick to my stomach.
Legit just getting a coffee job at Starbucks would be so much easier.

>>10168302
holy shit what are you getting in anon?

>>10168312
Just fucking charms what the hell

>>10168317
I've never seen such a high charge for charms... Is it country dependent? This is ridiculous

>>10168302
Are you in Canada?

>>10168406
>>10168398
Not that I know of, I’m in America.
I’ve never seen it this much in my life either.

>>10168408
>>10168317
contact them they must have fucked something up because that is nonsense I'm so sorry anon

Sorry for the dumb question I checked the links at the top first.

I'm ESL so could someone tell me the name of the wire panels you see people use for their tables? I need some sturdy enough to hang heavier items on.

>>10168491
grid cubes. you can find 'em on amazon if you're in the us

>>10168408
How big was your order?

I feel like someone may have fucked up the decimal on the customs declaration - the most I've ever been charged for customs in the US was $40 on a $600 charm order.

Is it worth having stores on different sites?

Specifically I've been thinking about splitting my original and fandom works into two stores, with the original hosted on etsy and the fandom stuff hosted on one of the sites with less strict copyright enforcement so I don't risk strikes taking down all of my stuff. I know it would mean traffic to the fan merch store coming pretty much exclusively from my social media, but I feel like that's not a bad trade-off for keeping my original merch safe and accessible via etsy.

I think I've seen people mention having multiple storefronts on the same site, but does anyone have experience managing different sites at the same time? Does it work or is it a nightmare?

>>10168302
Holy fuck. I'm officially pissing my pants now for the order that I placed recently.

>>10168302
What a nightmare...does this possibly have anything to do with the huge tariff hike that went into effect Friday? Sorry, I have no idea what categories of products it affected (or honestly how it works cause I'm a dumb) but I do know the tariffs on a ton Chinese goods jumped from 5~10% to 25% thanks to the whims of our lovely president. Not sure if even that would bring the fee that high though.

there's a lot of talk about china us trade war. not to be alarmist or anything, but we might be starting to see a little backlash from that maybe? i'm worried, i feel like i have had stuff held up in customs more often lately.

>>10168302
Is there the slimmest chance that this is a scam somehow? The language in that message seems weird.

>>10168555
Wait a minute, yeah, come to think of it, every time I've been charged a customs fee I've received a bill in the mail a few weeks after it has been delivered.
Call DHL directly and ask them about this.

>>10168555
Not original anon but I also just read the message again and actually used my brain for a minute and yeah, that /does/ sound fishy as heck. Pay the duty first to speed up the process? Uhhh idk about that. And I'm just now noticing the whole "please pay us this amount securely online now." That's setting off alarms for me too.

There's a seller on Etsy who's store is called OnlyLoveYou that seems to be selling stolen various artists keychains. Does anyone have their art up on there? Does anyone recognize some of the artists? I'd like to know which manufacturer could be doing this.

>>10167607
My main sellers are stickers and I make bank off of them, but I also can mass produce them pretty much because I have a cutting machine. If it's not working for you it's not working for you so why bother? Focus on something you think will be worth it like charms, sure.

Unrelated, why the hell is it so hard to find a decent 11x17 storage solution that isn't a shitty paper folder? All I really want is like thin plastic case I can carry some prints in, but I can't find anything at that size at all.

are screenprinted patches nice, or do only embroidered ones look good? the usual site i order stuff from only has screenprinted.

>>10168569
>>10168558
Another anon but I’ve paid for duties online before the package arrived before. Also for charms. Usually DHL’s fees are like 20$ and the rest is the actual duties and taxes owed.

>>10168693
like this kinda?

11x17 . com came up on google but dickblick might have the same kind of portfolio cases too

>>10168727
I personally hate those types of folders because they smush corners really easily. Dick Blick doesn't have anything but portfolios or binders.

I thought I almost hit gold with a 11x17x4 inch art bin, but of course the actual inside dimensions are much smaller.

All I literally want is a Daiso-style thinner plastic casing that can fit 11x17 but it really doesn't seem to exist.

>Want to meet other artists when I table at cons.
>Too much of a turbo autist to start a conversation or dont want to seem like a bother.

Fuck man

>>10168780
A proven strategy is just:

>say "how's it going"
>comment on one of their items--say it's so cute, or that you love how they draw x character
>mention "oh my table is over there (point), I feel like this con so far has been ___, what do you think?" casually

That's literally it. From there it's pretty easy to continue.

Anyone know where I can get the kind of pin backs used on ribbon medals? Not the bars with little holes in the back, but the bars that slide into place into another sleeve of metal? I don't even know what they're called.

It feels so surreal seeing multiple people on social media with hundreds of thousands of followers, one with over a million, wearing one of my products on social media.
I'm also at the point where I am seriously contemplating if I need to hire someone part time and how much time/money it would cost to hire my first employee.
I keep thinking "How is this all actually working out? Why has it not crashed and burned yet? Am I missing something??"
I guess I feel this way because literally no one is going to tell someone "oh yea, i'm sure you'll be successfully selling crafts on etsy and at anime conventions". Its always more "Thats nice dear, so what are your plans for when that silly idea fails?".
I guess I just feel nervous because literally everyone seems to act like i'm on a ledge about to fall off and I can't figure out what i'm missing and that worries me.

>>10168888
Welcome to being self-employed.

Also, why do you think you need an employee? Do you want to have a collaborator for your art? Or are you wanting someone to help man your table?

>>10168806
NTAYRT hoooo boy I said somewhat similar to someone who's art I liked at fanime last year during the like, 'selling to artists and vendors only' hour and just got back 'I don't discuss that kind of thing with competition'

>>10168780
Mini story time aside I've made friends from >>10168806 kind of approach but also with the additional trading of business cards. Most people have a lot of other stuff going on at a con and trading business cards let me hit up people I'd talked to at cons when that connection would have died otherwise because I was busy/tired/w/e at the con.

When ordering double sided from vograce do you need to flip the front or back layer? I have a design with text and none of the guides bring this up.

Is it easy to put up a pvc pipe display with one person?

>>10168938
>'I don't discuss that kind of thing with competition'
What the fuck? That person has issues. Though I don't mean asking like sales-wise either, I usually make some comment on the environment or something.

ex.
>This con is way busier than I expected for a first year con
>Even if AA is outdoors I'm glad they at least provided us with shade
>Didn't I see you at ____ (other con)?

And so on. Even if I have brought up sales as a casual question I have NEVER gotten an answer as weird as that, sorry you had to deal with that anon. Agree on the business cards too, I always take a few. I don't go around throwing them at people but if people ask I give them.

>>10168901
>why do you think you need an employee?
I was barely able to fill all my orders last halloween season and this year i'm on track to sell twice as many items. I'm a craft artist, so I hand make everything.

>>10169049
I usually just use acorn press or zap's templates, both address flipping text iirc. Should work for vograce too!

Do you guys think having stickers and charms of the same series with different art would cannibalize the sales of charms?

I have 3 stickers from one anime of 3 characters that I made really quick just to get them out there, but I want to do full charms (with different art, in a slightly different style) of the same 3 characters. But I really like how the stickers turned out and don't want to necessarily just throw them out when I put up the charms either.

>>10168780
Oh me too. I started a conversation with an artist I admired and I'm preeeetty sure I creeped them out a little bit fangirling over their art so I had to back off hah. I've since stopped really trying to start conversations like that. I think a big part of it is also the fact that I can't shake off the feeling that I'm being weird or bothersome.

It extends to customers too, honestly. My table partner is a lot better than me at socializing with them so I kind of piggyback off of them, but when I try to talk about even stuff I like with customers it dies off fast. Kinda makes me sad but eh.

My experiences haven't been totally negative, I've met a handful of cool people who can bear my awkwardness, but haven't really made actual friends I keep in touch with aside from the few I already had going in. Trying to be a social butterfly when you are just painfully awkward is just quite the task, gets pretty tiring.

>>10169193
When you just fangirl over someone's art you're signalling that you aren't their peer. There's not much someone can say to it other than thank you i'm really happy you like my art. If you don't treat other artists as equals they don't know if they can treat you that way either.

>>10169225
You're right, but I'd like to think I didn't just do that. I asked about how their artist alley was going, that I'm tabling too, they asked for my business card and table number, etc. etc. and the convo fell flat so I told them how I've been following them for a while and really loved their stuff, squealed over their charms, bought something from them, etc.

I saw them pass my table later (we even made eye contact) but they didn't stop by, which is fine because they're not obligated to, obviously. I know they could have been really busy, or forgot how I looked like, or lots of other reasons, and I shouldn't expect anything from other people, but I always blame myself for not being interesting enough for people to want to continue talking to me. Sorry, this has been a rant.

>>10169255
Maybe youre just not as interesting as you think its not that deep

>>10169156
Thanks anon!

>>10169255
Anon, I understand how you feel but try not to let it get you down. I've been doing AAs for a really long time (almost a decade now) and now I just don't really have the energy to interact with people outside of customers and my already established group of friends at a con. Talking with customers all day is super draining for me so sometimes I just don't feel like talking with someone new even if they're super nice! I remember being super excited to trade and make friends when I first started out but now I usually just want to get back to my hotel room and sleep.

What works really well though is doing what >>10168938
mentioned. Leave your business card and take a business card. After the con, maybe follow up on social media with a "hey it was great to see you at XYZ con!" I'm much more receptive to new social interactions if it's online and post-convention.

Everyone just has difference tolerance levels for how many strangers they can speak with in a day. It doesn't necessarily mean you're annoying or boring. The artists you've talked to probably just hit their socializing limit for that day.

>>10169155
The appeal of buying from an artisan is mainly in knowing that one person, the person who runs the store, made that item. It makes me feel very special and intimate. So if you got some no-name helper making half your items, and customers find out about that, I feel that the charm of it would be lost.
It's like if I bought a painting from So-and-So, but then it turns out half of the painting was actually done by So-and-So's no-name cousin. It's just not the same, you know?

If you're having a hard time fulfilling orders, limit the amount you take. You could also open pre-orders early. It's over 6 months until Halloween so if you know that's your busiest time of the year, you should get on it asap.

>>10169291
I'm >>10169225 and I agree with this too. Depending on who you're trying to interact with we might just be older/more established and not have as much energy for new friends anymore. If you only ever speak to artists you idolize or admire with large-ish followings, you are probably bumping into this problem without knowing. Making friends with people who are also looking to make friends is easiest and that tends to be people on the same level as you.

>>10169292
Fuck off trying to prevent her from growing because you think she should over work herself and not get bigger because “it’s speshul this way uwu, I need the artist to put her heart in soul into something I’m buying from her because I feel more validated for giving my money to her this way!!!”
She’s the main artist, and more than likely she needs a helper because one person physically cannot be successful on their own.
Fuck off you dumb piece of shit she’s a damn human for fucks sake.

>>10169310
relax.

>>10169292
Agree with the other anon, but like toned down x2. If this person already put in the hard work to figure out materials and patterning and details, I wouldn't mind knowing someone else helped them finish a product in order to be able to make more stock to sell. Not really fair on the craft artist when you consider 2D artists get to outsource to China for all of our stuff (hell, even 2D artists who want to manufacture plush do the same). I don't see any difference.

>>10169319
No.
Imagine thinking you’re this entitled to someone’s time that you think they shouldn’t be helped when they clearly need it.

>>10169177
If it's different art, I don't think you need to worry too much as long as the charms are also designed well. Personally, if I like a character and find an artist who draws them well, I tend to buy everything with that character from the table. Plus it's just psychologically easier to pick up small items once you make that bigger purchase.

>>10169049
When I ordered mine, I had text on the back and left that as is and flipped the front design and it turned out perfectly

>>10169367
Ah, so they flip the front layer? I have text on both sides and I'm going full stupid trying to work out how to set everything up.

>>10169292
lol no.
>>10169155
if you have extra cash to hire an assistant its a natural growing point.

>>10169389
They didn't flip the layer, I flipped it in the design before I sent it to them

If you have text on both sides you can probably flip whichever side you want and it'll be fine

It completely melts my brain trying to figure out the flipping stuff myself sometimes lol, I remember my first batch of charms ended up backwards but luckily

>>10169255
Only two things I wanna say are: keep in mind not everyone is looking for friends, their reaction might have nothing to do with you, they might react that way to everyone. And also that the person on the other end of the interaction might be exactly as awkward as you are. I'm both, I'm extremely awkward and also not looking for friends, so I think I come across very rude to other people, which is not my intention at all, I just want the minimum polite interaction and then go home and hang out with my cat.
Like other anon said, too, if you're only trying to befriend artists whose work you like then you'll frequently be disappointed. I made the same mistakes before I gave up on humanity. People click in person based on personality, not because of the art they put on social media.

>>10169155
To play devil’s advocate though, if you have trouble fulfilling orders, you can always raise the price. That way you can still do what >>10169292 prefers while keeping profits up.

>>10169411
NAYRT but you'll get flak anyway, people tend to feel entitled in different ways. That anon wants things personally handmade by the artists, other customers might throw a fit over things becoming more expensive because how can you screw over your loyal customers that way???

I don't think craft-anon can win, they should do what they feel is best because you will never make everyone happy. A helper to take off some of the load and pressure might be a good idea if they feel they can't handle it all on their own anymore.

>>10169411
Why would you raise the price when you could make people happier by keeping prices low and more affordable aka, more accessible to the average consumer? Jesus some of you guys are just so damn greedy and don’t think for a second about the consumers/ customers.

>>10169155
I'm also a craft artist, and I've started hiring people every now and then to help me with work and it's been great! I've been paying $10 - $15 an hour for ~30hrs of random work a month.

I'm going back to a ''''real''' job soon so I'm trying to also transition more tasks into delegatable tasks so I can still keep up my current rate of sales. Tbh I also love that I can say that I help support other people's lives with the work I give them

As >>10169411 mentions I'm also raising the prices of all my handmade things a bit. Nobody's complained, and it's much better than trying to die with more work than you can keep up with. I just recommend giving a one month announcement before raising prices as a 'hey current customers if you were wanting something get it now before the price goes up!'

Also congrats anon on reaching that point with your business!

>>10169255
I feel like I'm like this to a lot of other artist alley people, and I'm sorry. In the beginning I was like you, eager to make friends in the alley. But I think I've become jaded because let's be honest, most people in artist alley are immature and have issues. I don't think I've met anyone without a mental illness, self-diagnosed or not. Since I already have a good circle of friends that lead normal lives and aren't involved with conventions at all, it's a nice balance for me to just keep business as business. I'm good at keeping up appearances and I'd rather just keep my level of friendship with other artists to "acquaintances". It's just not worth my time.

>>10169443
someone doesn't understand the basic concepts of supply and demand. art goods are a luxury and should be treated as such, instead of acting like every single person is entitled to them

>>10169455
> all artists have mental illness and people with mental illness are immature and have issues

sheesh anon

You don't have to make friends with every artist who approaches you but it doesn't mean every artist is bad to be friends with.

I've also been in this game a while and so many of my good friends are fellow artists I've met. Yeah there's bad seeds but it ends up when you're friends with a lot of artists, the good artists tell you who the shitty people are.

>>10169292
Its just a part time helper. I'm not sitting back and having someone else do all the work. Just gonna have the employee do the unskilled tasks like cut fabric.

>It's over 6 months until Halloween so if you know that's your busiest time of the year, you should get on it asap

4 months. Halloween season starts early to mid September. I also have conventions and regular orders to deal with too so there is only so much inventory I can stockpile on my own.

im considering buying a button maker - what's the best size mold to get? what size buttons sell best?

Is Kickstarter or Indiegogo better for kickstarting something like pins? What's best for art projects in general?

Also, I read they'll boot you for doing copyrighted characters. Should I just stick to original art if I'm going to try it?

>>10170045
I see people use Indiegogo/Kickstarter for fanart pin sets pretty often, but it's definitely not allowed and if they receive a DMCA takedown the project will be removed. I'm kind of put off by artists who crowdfund fanart, I'd say stick to original work if you can't fund it yourself or with preorders, but I'm probably in the minority on that opinion. I prefer KS for projects also, just from a customer/backer pov.

Has anime expo (exhibitors) ever done a cocktail party like this before? Wtf do I wear lmao

>>10170074
They have this every year although I guess this year they re trying to make it more 'impressive sounding'?

>>10170045
>>10170048
Yeah, people usually get away with it but it’s so fucking tacky. If you’re doing fanart for profit then at least eat the manu cost yourself or run preorders thru your shop, kickstarters for fan merch are obnoxious.

>>10165055
>>10165230

Biodegradable are not always a better choice. A study from the University of Plymouth came out fairly recently where those bags hardly broke down after three years. Link leads to the Smithsonian but a lot of websites posted articles about the study.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/do-biodegradable-plastic-bags-actually-biodegrade-180972074/

>>10170029
Larger, like 2.25". Any less than that is just not worth it considering the amount of work you have to do to sell a shitty button for a dollar.

Specialty buttons are much more popular nowadays then plain round but seriously don't bother with a heart button press or anything like that, they're extremely finicky and also not worth making on your own because of that.

https://howtobeaconartist.tumblr.com/post/116542273843/standard-art-print-sizes-in-px

Is this accurate? Is this really the size I should be drawing my posters at?

Some of them seem a bit small.

>>10171043
They're all small, they're the px size for 150 DPI for some reason. You CAN print at 150 DPI, but you'll get much better results at 300 DPI. There are even some artists who do it at 600, kinda overkill tho. I wouldn't listen to that post, double all of the px measurements (make sure you set DPI to 300 though).

>>10171043
Hard agree with >>10171049 150dpi imo is the absolute lowest you can go, I draw at 900 but that's because my lines/art is messy af and it allows me to use anything for large format/banners at the drop of a hat.

What steps have some of you taken to getting over depression regarding your art?

School (masters unrelated to art) and an additional part-time position have consumed my time over the past few years to the point I feel like I have just stagnated in my growth as an artist. I have only gotten to make a few polished prints/stickers a year for the past couple years, with some sketches here and there, and now at 24 years old I am bitterly disappointed with where I am as an artist.

I hate my degree and job and all I want to do is draw, but drawing is often so frustrating and discouraging that it's painful because I'm so dissatisfied with where I'm at.

I know all I can really do is keep drawing and forge ahead, but has anyone else gone through something similar? Do you have any practical advice for how you got through or improved to the point you didn't feel borderline suicidal looking at other people's art and careers?

>>10171519
You sound like you need some professional help. It's normal to feel discouraged or envious of others but "borderline suicidal".. do you have therapy or mental health services at the college you go to? I was going to say ages and career bars and stuff is all bullshit but you seem to need more than that...

>>10171545
Oh and I should add, this isn't depression related to art. this is depression and you happen to be an artist. If you do not treat your depression it doesn't matter how good you get, you will find better artists, younger artist, more popular artists to compare yourself to. You will not be able to "improve yourself" out of this. Please get help.

>>10171519
I agree with >>10171545, sounds like a personal problem, not necessarily an art problem. I'm sure your art is perfectly fine, but you can't see that because of your intense self-loathing. Hope you get the help you sound like you need, buddy. Mental health services are out there and sometimes are covered by your insurance.

>>10171519
In addition to what other anons said, because if you just finished your degree and already hate it, that sounds like a larger life problem than just art... 24 is way too young to be upset about your art growth, especially when it's essentially a hobby. You're a baby. Plenty of creators don't make their best work until later in life. The current culture makes people in their late teens and early twenties feel like failures for not already being spectacular at everything just because some 13 year olds on instagram got a ton of special education and are amazing at art. Stop comparing yourself to others and focus on what it is you like about making art, on what makes you happy. If it doesn't make you happy, you need to walk away and find something that does. If you need professional help for that, there's no shame in that.

Even though there is a high number of people doing AA in Australia/NZ, AANI GOs are almost non-existent for Oceania people unless we have to pay double the amount for shipping than the cost of the actual product. I wish there was Oceania group formed so we could cut down on shipping costs.

Weird question but not sure where else to ask. I do freelance graphic design on the side and I have a client who wants Harry Potter themed invitations for an event. This would include a Hogwarts logo on the back of the card. Would Moo print this? Has anyone had issues with printing trademarked stuff like that? Not necessarily Harry Potter but any fandom related thing really.

>>10171714
Not sure about Moo, but Catprint does wedding invites/envelopes and specialty printing so they could be a backup if needed and I'm sure they wouldn't flag it.

>>10171717
Awesome! Thank you so much anon.

How's the market for wall scrolls? Do people usually sell these aside from the chinese artists?

>>10164481
Pretty much. Just add a specific hair eye color to huge tits and its a diff character anyway. Sewing requires skill patience and capital.

If nothing else ive learned that fanart is all trash, and will discorage everyone buying anything but original art.

>>10171851
>>10171854
Lol, I'm sorry your original art is trash but learn to deal with your salt.

>>10171854
I almost exclusively sell original art (gotta throw in some fandom stuff or else it just looks weird for you to be in AA to begin with in my opinion) and I'm doing just fine. If your art is good enough, people will buy your shit even if they don't know what the hell it's from. It also helps to put little sticky notes that say something like "Original Character" or "Original Design" or even "Not From Anything!" for customers who might not want to buy things from series they aren't familiar from but are too shy to ask what that design is from in the first place.

>>10171854
This is so stupid. People are obviously more apt to buy things that they’re going to recognise. They aren’t going to have the same connection as you do to your own original characters the way that they have towards their favs from something from a fandom.

That being said it is still possible to be an artist that focuses solely on original pieces, so long as those pieces are going to appeal to certain crowds. Also what >>10172036 says is great advice, too.

>>10171545
>>10171547
>>10171586
>>10171643
Thank you for your thoughtful responses, anons...I really appreciate it. I definitely do need to see someone, because like you said, this really does extend beyond just my art. I have an appointment coming up soon so hopefully I will be able to get past this. Thank you.

>>10167538
Am I the only one baffled by her recent influx of support?
Even disregarding that she used FW as a stepladder back in the day, her art is really off looking more times than not. Like she never learned any fundamentals and hides everything under texture vomit and filters.
I don't get how she's this popular.

>>10172068
Good luck, anon!

>>10171643
>24 is way too young to be upset about your art growth... You're a baby.
nayrt but this made me snivel a little. i needed this. thanks

>>10171704
Are you a part of all the fb groups? Australian Con Artists, AANZ etc? I agree there could definitely be more though.

I got my babies first vendor table and just want to post. I'm so fucking excited. Some dumbass questions I guess-
I have like a million ideas, do u find that having a lot of different 'styles' for sale affect sales in anyway? Like I plan on doing some loltia-ish delicate illustrations, sweaty pin up Bois, a few dark comic style prints etc.
I was also considering buying a button pressor, are they still very popular? Like more or less popular than enamel pins? For budgets sake I'd rather focus on pins and shirts this time around but if buttons are still really popular I'll think of some designs

>>10172539
if this is your first one ever you probably shouldn't immediately buy a button machine...you might prepare a bunch then find out you hate drawing them

>>10172687
finally caught up with the thread and im just gonna never bother w buttons lol. its never been appealing to me except for ita bags.

i would like to know anyones experience with a die cut printer? is having your own far more preferable than ordering from a second party, and is it any more cost effective?

>>10170048
>>10170135
I know I'm late to the discussion here, but honestly I don't see a problem with it. If you're already going to be making money off of these IPs that aren't yours, why not crowdfund it to at least make sure you get back what you put into it? The best thing about a KS is that it makes it clear whether people want a product or not (running polls on Twitter doesn't give concrete results imo). There's also pin collectors that specifically hang out on crowdfunding websites to find new artists/pin-makers, and that is a group that can only be tapped into by crowdfunding. Why not take advantage of that?

At the end of the day, you're still getting the same product, and it's still just as morally grey. Consumers aren't really going to care about how you got the funds either. I don't understand how that process is more "obnoxious" than just funding it yourself. Not everyone has a ton of money laying around to slam down on merch that may or may not sell well (regardless of quality).

KS with super low goals are pointless though, I think. I don't get these campaigns with $150-$300 goals. Funding a project that's going to cost $800-$1000+ is one thing, but you can easily take time to save up a couple hundred dollars to fund one pin design. At that point you're just throwing a part of your profits away to cover the KS fees, and that's wasteful.

Does anyone know about Hitsu? She was literally the only one at the whole artist alley selling acrylic keychains and stands even though those things are all the rage in japan right now. How did she know and have such an advantage over everyone else by following the latest and hottest japanese trend?

>>10173100
The fuck?

I got a quote from vograce for heart shaped badges and they wanted to charge $75 for just the mold cost is that normal?

>>10173135
Mold cost? That's usually a thing for enamel pins, not can badges. Maybe they're misreading your message? You might want to reword things.

Re:ACEN threatening an artist to delete her tweets exposing a booth that was selling bootlegs(which included her art)....what the fuck? Anyone else have ACEN experiences to share?

>>10173160
I wondered too about the mold fee cause I'm aware that there is a fee for custom molds for enamel pins, but I was genuinely surprised a fee that high was added just for pre-made button press

>>10173164
Yes!! I was near her and heard about this shit. Acen's AA was a clusterfuck this year. Not enough time to set up, huge unending rows of tables that were a safety/fire hazard on top of just be hella inconvenient and shitty for artists. They DOUBLED the size of the AA, which meant more artists got in. But money was stretched over a larger amount of people so people didn't do as well as they'd hoped.

The bulshsprout stuff is completely fucked up. I can 100% guarentee that the exhibit hall staff knew these assholes sold bootlegs. I think they've even been kicked out of other cons for it? And yet they let them in anyway. And then instead of addressing the issue and reprimanding the vendors, they allow blushsprout to be THREATENED by the vendors AND threaten her as well. Just disgusting behavior.

>>10173064
Absolutely. Speaking in terms of pins as an example, I somewhat understand the campaigns with unlock-able designs and whatnot, but it's only worthwhile for an all-or-nothing model when you consider the amount of time and money it takes to spend on creating and promoting a successful Kickstarter. If you're intending to create in a full set, go for a full set. Plus having them all available at the end creates less backers waiting to see if certain designs get unlocked.

>>10173177
That's weird. Maybe hold off and shop around then. Maybe what they mean by "mold" is different that what I'm thinking, but I don't know. $114 for 100 buttons doesn't sound bad, but I haven't sold buttons in ages so idk if that's a good rate or not anymore.

what the fuck is this shit anons and how is this even allowed

>>10173243
where the hell are the mods in this group??

>>10173217
I like an all-or-nothing setup too. I swear it's always the locked designs from a set that I want the most, and sometimes it never becomes available, which is frustrating as a consumer. Plus it seems like a waste of time to design those pins and then not be able to make them.

>>10173100
Can you rephrase your questions anon lmao

>>10173177
The Head of Exhibitor made a thread in the AANI group, Acen group and so far about the incident, but as more people reply to him, the more you realized he acted like an ass(even he admit he fucked up) and it feels like he's trying to save his ass at this point.

>>10173320
And blushsprout's reply

>>10173320
D A M A G E C O N T R O L

>>10173330
The whole thread is pretty much a tl;Dr attempt on damage control.

He fucked up big time, didn't do his job properly, put the blame on the artist, tried to boot the artist because the vendor was saying they were being harrassed, the vendor wasn't even on the fucking exhibitor list and was selling in place of a different vendor, he tries to cover his ass saying that he thought it was legit merch that the vendor could legally sale when the artist was flat out saying they were not, and just on, and on, and on. The more that comes out, the more it shows.

>>10173330
We haven't had good drama in a while. I can't wait for #CancelACen to start trending. What an absolute ass this AA guy is. This is why you cause a scene. Take note because the only way to deal with people like this is to air your grievances on social media, otherwise I promise you the artist would have just been booted and the whole situation swept under the rug.

>>10173330
What's also fucked imo is that the guy also brought up the first sale doctrine, as if that should apply to small time artists.

It's generally thought of as really bad praxis to sell other artist's work, even if by a technicality they're "legally" able to.

>>10173530
if they had actually bought bulk pins directly from blushsprout, there wouldn’t be a problem here. the artist would have been compensated and then it would have been nobody’s business what was done with them at an exhibitor booth. the problem is that they are illegally reproduced and blushsprout did not benefit in any way from their own work being used

Yokudraws I know you think this makes you look cute, but don’t use the word “nigga” in the discord especially when you’re just a little white/Asian girl that’s unaware of how this can offend POC.
Im not saying this word is off limits to a certain race but I am saying not using this word at all is the best option for all races.
Just my two cents.

>>10173648
God you're whiny. Go off yourself.

>>10173648
People like you who cap and post shit is literally why nobody wants to join the discord

>>10173648
Do you not realize where you are?

>>10173648
lmao calm down nigga

>>10173648
Since u love callouts so much tell us who you are so we can kick you out

Anyone try coloring books with the lineart of pieces you’ve already finished? I always thought people might like that idea but I don’t know if the coloring book fad is already over.

>>10173648
I agree with you but.. couldn't you have just said this on the discord.. ?

Isn't the discord supposedly not 4chan specific so not everyone knows or follows this thread anyway?

>>10173330
>>10173337
Thank god (and this isn't sarcasm) all those commenters continued to get angry bc when I read his post I actually wanted to feel bad for him/what happened. Then I remembered, wait, this vendor wasn't even supposed to be there in the first place, not just because they were selling in another's place but also because apparently they've been listed for selling bootlegs before...
This attempt at "damage control" honestly just made it worse for them, lol.

>>10173648
I'm with this anon >>10173702

I totally agree with Yokura said was inappropriate, but next time just address it in the discord or ping the mods. That being said, yikes - I guess I know who to avoid at cons. Yokudraws, if you're reading this, do better.

>>10173689
Hilarious, anon. I'm pretty sure you aren't the mod and have 0 power to actually kick anyone. How does it feel to flex on an anon board over an art chat?

>>10173648
>basic as fuck drawing style

Sounds about right

>>10173718
>>10173648

You're gonna "avoid them at cons" because they said something probably without much thought? Why don't you actually take the time to educate them/send them a DM about it instead of being all "yikes, nope" and letting the problem perpetuate itself?
If you're gonna call it out you might as well.

>>10173648
>>10173702
>>10173718
>>10173782
What did she do wrong?

>>10173764
I was getting second-hand embarrassment when she was asking one of the more successful/10x more talented artists to retweet her art on Twitter.
“(Better artist) retweet my shit”
And they politely rejected (lol who just asks like that?)

She’s just really cringy and tries super hard to fit in/ acts like something she’s not. A big yikes if you ask me.

>>10173782
If I was actively participating in the discord last night and saw the message, I would have said something. As it stands it's been over 12 hours so I don't see the point in dragging out something that's further up in the chat when another anon has posted a cap in this thread.

Also, no one is obligated to "educate" random online stranger about basic slurs 101. Kind of hard to believe that they would have 0 idea that it's a slur in the first place. If we were friends I would take the time to reach out and have a discussion but as it stands I don't actually have to be friends with every artist in the AA.

>>10173648
>Being offended over words on a screen

Lmao just look away nigga ahahahaha

>>10173764
Lol post your work or stfu you dumb nigga

>>10173862
I’m pretty sure anyone could post their work and it be better than that middle school style she has.
A for effort though

how are sales at animazement usually?

>>10173864
Then do it fag. You're just talk until you actually prove it.

>>10173868
Calm down Yoku

>>10173873
I bet your work is shit lmao

>>10173820
>I don't actually have to be friends with every artist in the AA.

Honestly, the most comforting message.

>>10173820
I'd like to take a moment to reach out to you out of the goodness of my heart and let you know that context matters. Some POC find it acceptable to use to reclaim its meaning. Some even in any situation to mean or show comradery, regardless of race. What's important is at the end of the day we think of the intent of the word instead of draw large conclusions about an individual and get offended for a hypothetical person.

Have a great day, I hope this helps some people's fortitute to not be so weak as to crumble at the mere sight of a word so that they feel obligated to try to put someone annoymously on blast as attempt to drive shame or hate. It must be difficult to live that way so I just felt morally obligated to right this wrong, even if for a stranger.

>>10173648
Was this meant to be a tumblr post? Everyone says nigga.

God you're all so fucking cringey

>>10174003
I like you anon

>>10173996
Not people who take their work/ job seriously or are professional.
Nobody wants to be associated with someone who uses racial slurs so carelessly without knowing in this day and age it’s not appropriate.
You know some of us are making around 80k-100k a year and don’t want to ruin that right?

Where could I order as small badges as possible?

>>10173990
Regardless of how "some POC find it acceptable" there are plenty of black people who do not. Non-black POCs have no reclamation over this word. I'm not even the anon who posted the cap, gull.

Even if you don't think it's a big deal because it's a joke to you, like >>10174058 said, you should be careful because of how you will be perceived by others. Other people won't think you're funny, they'll think you're an insensitive asshole. Casual slur usages can and will affect how you are perceived socially and professionally.

I agree the cap shouldn't have been posted here. The OP seems to have beef with Yokudraws personally. It should have been reported to the mod and pointed out in the discord server instead.

>>10174081
I don’t know if they could have ‘beef’ with them personally (doesn’t sound super realistic) but I think there’s a very specific type of person that gets super upset when non-blacks use “nigga” loosely, and I feel like the OP of that post probably was that type (or atleast in my opinion since they used the term POC)
That or like others mention they just don’t like her personality and art (is that even considered ‘beef’ though? I’m not sure to be honest.)

Is there any beef even in this artist community?

>>10174058
What's with the humble brag on money? What does your income you supposedly possess have to do with their money? How about you worry about your money and they can worry about their money.

Honestly, if someone said "nigga" and was told to apologize and didn't, I'd like them way more than some pc artist like you. I'd probably even follow them over it.

No one's career should be over for saying something as harmless as a stupid joke, usually to friends or fans who get them. You're honestly what's wrong with social media as a whole.

>>10174091
w o w so edgy~

>>10174092
I'm angry I got called out, s-s-so you're edgy.

>>10174091
Again anon some of us are literally professionals (professionals make a lot of money, hence the reference) here and that’s not registering to you it seems. Some people actually care (and HAVE to to continue being a professional) about their reputation.
But keep throwing a fit and looking like a fool.

>>10174105
Nice correlation between professionalism and income, as if an entire country's president was elected for being so pc friendly.

Thank god in this instance we're only talking a harmless turn of phrase.

>>10174122
NAYRT but professional artists who are working in the industry in addition to tabling at AAs obviously do get paid more than hobbyists who do like 1-2 cons a year. There are artists in the AA scene who have worked for/with companies like Blizzard, Riot, Marvel, etc. Stop being obtuse.

And yes, in this day and age - not using slurs is like the minimum baseline measurement of professionalism. Big name companies can and will fire you for violating their nondiscrimination clauses and other artists 100% have the right not to associate with you anymore.

>>10174058
>>10174105
>>10174129
Nigga isn't a slur. Nigger is a slur.

Everyone knows this but you, apparently. You may think you're being right in bullying artists, but you ruin everything for all of us. Imagine if you accidentally typed something wrong on your main account. Is it right you should be fired over it? Years or even decades worth of work, gone over a single typo or "wrong opinion"?

Enforcing this hostile environment is career ending for almost any of us who want to become professional. You are only for it because it works in your favor this time as a ~POC~ and you know it. You probably want to oust them as your artistic rival and claim their professional place, especially since diversity hires are so hot right now.

When you inevitably do something very human and make a mistake one day, you will be crying for mercy when you get crucified. You'll only have yourself to blame because you helped create it.

>>10174129
How is it being obtuse? Obviously artists who frequent tables and who work in the industry tend to make more money than hobbyists. That has literally nothing to do with being pc professional or not, you can't just add one giant exception that has nothing to do with anything and act like it makes a point. Just like we have an entire culture that's overly sensitive about every little thing regardless of intent, we have just as large of a culture that's overly sensitive about people getting attacked over words that do nothing. I think this thread makes this obvious. I'd say people have gotten spikes in followers for less, but this is so embarrassingly insignificant I can't even say that.

>>10174143
>You probably want to oust them as your artistic rival and claim their professional place
Haha this is so dramatic at this point, I can understand trying to cancel a big name like Sakimichan but some unskilled artist instead? Get off your high horse anon this isn’t this serious.
At this point all this nonsense is just comical. (But im also assuming you’re Yoku trying to stand up for yourself so I give you credit for trying this hard)

>>10174143
I'm not >>10174058 or >>10174105

Multiple people disagree with you, if you can believe it. From the start I've been saying that it shouldn't have been capped and posted here. This is incredibly stupid drama considering that it should have just been addressed in the discord and the mod would have taken care of it or Yoku could have apologized and deleted it.

Not being able to say a slur isn't a "hostile environment". If you're so adamant that it isn't a slur you're free to use it however you'd like and see where that gets you. I, for one, enjoy not being an asshole toward an entire race of people by using a derogatory term that many people object to. But you do you.

>>10174146
I literally said I'm not that anon. Just clarifying that yes - professionalism does lead to maintaining professional contacts which in return gets you higher paying jobs in the industry. Do you honestly think industry professionals can stay employed in the art industry (which is notably progressive) if they go around throwing slurs into everyday conversation? Intent does not absolve you of consequences.

>>10174153
Right? Like... what "professional place"? I just looked at their Twitter and they seem like a hobbyist who does AAs. This gull is reaching so far that I'm also convinced that it has to be Yokudraws or a friend of theirs.

>>10174153
No, I just think you're stupid. You're certainly quite motivated to start shit with this artist for no reason. Are they even professional? I was just guessing from your antics that they were, but maybe they're not. If they're not, who even cares if some AA artist say something like this? They wouldn't be "professional" by your nonsensical standards, so you're punching down. Of course, I really don't believe you make as much as you brag and I don't believe you're some kind of incredibly important professional either.

And way to not address anything else I said. Hope the coals fall on your head one day.

>>10173648
>you’re just a little white/Asian girl that’s unaware of how this can offend POC
Are Asians honorary whites?

>>10173648
Hard to not see this as vendetta when you get these kind of posts >>10173764
>>10173819. What does their art skills have anything to do with the initial post? Seems like someone was just salty and suddenly found a 'legitimate' reason to call Yoku out.

>>10174210
Silly anon, everyone knows that Asians aren't POC. That's why anyone can cosplay Asian characters, but cosplaying actual POC characters mean you're taking opportunities away from those less privileged than you.

>>10174216
Well, if anything, at least Asians have artist alley attendance privilege- everyone knows that only Asians should be attending AA and having other races do so is appropriation of ASIAN culture.

>>10173648
>still thinks race is a thing

what is wrong with all of you lmao can we talk about business and art or do you all have nothing else to contribute except bullshit

So which is safer:
Leaving all my money at my artist alley table
or
Walking a mile to my hotel room at night through downtown atlanta

>>10174282
Is there a reason you can't use some of that money to get uber/lyft?

>>10174284
but then i'd have less money

>>10174282
Speaking as someone who is from Atlanta, you're not going to die. I'm assuming you're talking about Momocon since it's next week, and the exhibit hall closes before sunset every day. You'll be walking around while there's still light out, with a ton of other con goers as well.
Also, it's really not that scary here. Just walk with confidence, don't make eye contact with people, and don't look like you're walking around with a load of cash on you. It's not that hard. You're at the GWCC, not some back-alley ghetto.

>>10174287
Are you stupid? You're really going to risk your safety over the cost of an uber? If you're too much of a poorfag for a uber just dont go.

>>10174282
Safer for what? As in the second choice is probably safer for your money, but it's more dangerous for you.

>>10174290
They'd be walking on the main roads in the daytime at the same time plenty of other people will be. Have either of you ever been to a large urban city before? ffs

>>10174287
if you're enough of a weenie to ask this question, just get the uber, it's a mile itll only be a few dollars

>The thread labeled "I'm living for this" is riddled with drama

Cursed phrase I'll tell ya what

Is Franxxx still a hot seller or is it old news now? Also I saw 1 or 2 Gridman prints at a con. I thought they weren't allowed to be sold?

>>10174300
>I'll tell ya what
I did not know that Hank Hill frequented the AA threads

>>10173648
Holy shit dude, way to be a passive aggressive asshole and post a call out in public. If you're not okay with what they said, then you should have dm'd in person instead of airing this shit out on a mongolian tapestry weaving site. Great, now no one can trust each other in the fucking server.

Also, why are you using discord white theme? That shit's for the legally blind.

>>10174282
Can I get a Y I K E S?

>>10173648
Wow this whole thread is a big yikes. Haven't been keeping up on the discord lately, but Yokura my respect for you has gone down a little cause of this.

Although, anon poster I get that you might have wanted to stay anon/didn't want to say anything in the disc but next time just DM the mod instead of putting someone on full blast plz? Also why are you belittling her for being an Asian girl? Hurting my feelings here as a fellow Asian girl uwu

>>10174307
My AA table sells propane accessories

new thread: >>10174518

>>10174519
We don’t need a new thread?

>>10174627
anytime a bump limit is reached (which this thread has) I make a new thread

This thread was better

>>10174804
You can still talk in this thread if you like it that much.