/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I've always appreciated that Scarfing Scarves never outright mentions /cgl/ too clearly, only alluding to it occasionally. Although edgier than Lor she's definitely "mainstream" in our niche fashion community, and her loudly tooting the horn about 4chan would be awful. We already have enough newfags worming their way in and making fools out of themselves nowadays. (Just lurk more.)

My question is if future YouTubers will follow the same code of conduct? I noticed a lot of girls wanted to make their own content in some YouTube thread on Rufflechat. I got the feeling that there's a new generation of lolita YouTubers in the making. How do we want or wish them to act?

>inb4 you're one of them
Let an anon soliloquize in peace. Does it make any difference if I am an e-fame thirsting thot? For all we know they could be lurking and will take part of this discussion either way.

She’s cool, though her overly kind personality seems forced at times.
the April fools joke with her and Tyler made me laugh.

>>10144236
>How do we want or wish them to act?
Depends. If they're going for a persona for entertainment purposes like SS does, they should bring their own ideas to the table rather than try to emulate someone else, we don't need another Tyler or another Milkyfawn wannabe etc. It's okay to take inspiration from other entertainers of course, and it's even okay to be inspired by someone else's idea and creating your own take on it, but there's a line between taking inspiration and copying, the latter of which often results in "Walmart tier" imitations of the original and no one wants that.
If they want to bring themselves as they are, they should be genuine, talk about things that interest them, things that they're passionate about, without desperately trying to appeal to an audience they may or may not already have; imo they shouldn't overshare their personal life, and for god's sake, wear lolita in their videos about the fashion. The last point might seem like a no brainer but it's oddly not uncommon to see yters making videos about lolita without actually wearing the clothes.

Are there any other Lolita YTers like VictorianMe? I really like her short meetup report videos and easygoing video style. It doesn't feel too forced, even if there are staged lookbook videos.
I really like Lor and LWLN but I'd love to see more everyday sort of things too.

I'm really interested in Lor's new Horror Story series, I just hope she doesn't unknowingly awaken anything that is still raw, but I did see the Baby ironing board cover in there so I'm hoping it's less focused on drama drama and more on bizarre or weird shit like the beelita.

>>10144309
That horror series is gonna be great, but I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of drama, especially if she covers anything even remotely recent

>>10144322
Can we please talk about the weird bee girl

>>10144328
>girl

I make YouTube videos unrelated to lolita, it's kind of an alt comedy MDE/Sadworld/Joe Goes type of deal. As you can imagine, this is a 99% teenage male audience. I made one video "reporting" at a local con wearing lolita, to see what the reaction was. To keep this post snappy, I'll just say the video is now on private.

>>10144328
Honestly, it's either a perv or someone who saw a public post, didn't know wtf it was about and showed up in a costume. But judging by the manspreading and LOr saying "I don't know how this person identifies" I'm guessing it was a male perv with a flashing/humiliation fetish.

>>10144336
Sounds like you should have made a separate channel.

I like the occasional unboxing/meetup video, but I would love a more activity-diverse lolita on YouTube- baking and sewing tutorials, diys, casual daily vlogs, art. I dunno. Lifestyle-related topics, but without pushing the “im a special princess” trope. A lolita Christine McConnell. Side note, I really love Cake Calamity.

I know that she cannot help it, but I believe FluffyKawaiiJo is one of the ugliest lolitas I've ever seen, and her content is by far some of the cringiest out there.

>>10144462
I'm pretty sure Lor takes that cake.

>>10144462
Lor may have a long man face, but Jo takes it with her literal haggard witch face and narrow nose.

>>10144336
>teenage males are assholes and/or perverts
Big surprise. Sorry that happened to you though.

>>10144236
>I've always appreciated that Scarfing Scarves never outright mentions /cgl/ too clearly, only alluding to it occasionally.
Really? Cause I think it comes across as truly dishonest. She should just own up to the fact that she obviously comes here.

>inb4 it's just a character
she's not a fucking character actor. she's a fucking youtube personality.

>>10144462
Is Fluffy still around?

>>10144473
>only Actors™ can play characters
Are you serious?

>>10144462
Agreed.

>>10144464
Nah, Lor may not be pretty but she's nowhere near as fug as FluffyKawaiiJo.
Pic related.

>>10144481
What is wrong with her nose? Surgery went wrong?

>>10144481
We can agree to disagree. Lors long face combined with no eyebrows and too short bangs makes her look horrendous. Add in her massive drawn eyebrows and I can't even look at it.

>>10144462
I still don't understand what Action Lolita is supposed to be.

I like fluffy's obvious foreigner accent desu. Makes me feel better about my own.

Unrelated, but I wish cake calamity would post more lolita related content. She is cute.

>>10144481
I'll take ten Lors and FluffyKawaiiJos that make actually interesting variety of content over some cute fake voiced "I'm so kawaii uwu look at my latest haul" lolita YouTubers.

>>10144309
>Baby ironing board cover
wow add this to list of shit that 4chan has completely made up and then normies bought into it.

>>10144535
But there were photos?

>>10144485
She’s French

>>10144479
Only actors can do it **well**

>>10144462
I kinda love her though. Her dedication to the fashion is so heartfelt, and it's nice to see girls with unusual faces in lolita. Makes it feel less like a Pretty Girls Club and more like an actual alt fashion.

>>10144537
No fucking shit, anon. I was in the thread too when it happened.

It was a stunt to get attention. It was not an accident. Just an elaborate troll. Stop being so damn gullible.

>>10144512
This.

>>10144462
Strongly agreed. She has a good moment once a year, but the rest is cringe and awful. How do people even watch her?

>>10144547
Fake or not, my friend once called someone's horrible coord 'iron board quality' and it was the sickest burn I've ever heard. It makes me laugh everytime I think about it!

>>10144473
Dishonest perhaps, but the alternative is a horde of newfags who want to be "just like meme-mommy Tyler ùwú" who will flood the board and write posts in the same wordy style as ScarfingScarves does her videos. She's got a lot of really stupid fans. If she introduces them to this place they will go rampant with roleplaying and similar bullshit, I'm sure. Her being "dishonest" about going here is the lesser of two evils. I don't even see it as dishonest, I'd rather say she's subtle. Do you remember which video where she literally included a graphic of a bow-wearing seagull with a warning like "they will get you"? I don't, but I know that joke made me laugh.

>>10144546
Same. I just love her "anyone can be kawaii" and "you can do everything in lolita" sentiments. I think she'd be on Lor's level if her video or editing quality was better.

>>10144309

Seconding chill lolita youtubers like VictorianMe. I tried to like milkbox but her stunning ignorance of anything not AP or BTSSB put me off. Classic lolitas preferred.

Also preferably in English because I wander off to clean the house during those videos and to my shame I am barely bilingual.

>>10144462
I want to like her but she just gives me secondhand embarrassment to watch. The video about not getting picked to model for AP was especially cringe.

It sucks that our community is so starved for original content that isn't just hauls and 101 videos that we set such a low bar for ourselves. Every time I look at Jo's channel I always just imagine that she asks herself if she could make these videos rather than if she should? Lolita trampolining? Just why. Like yeah sure it's better than nothing, she's creating new content blah blah blah but why this? Maybe I'm in the minority here but I just don't really see the point in trying to make lolita 100% accessible 100% of the time like you'll get some kind of badge for it.

At least Lor has been putting more effort lately to make interesting content that engages with the community. Her documentary series is good and the new horror stories series has potential. I really think being friends with Tyler has had a positive influence on her content.

Out of curiosity, are there any youtubers that wear lolita but don't make lolita related content (like unboxing videos or lookbook type stuff)? As much as I want to see more content get made in the community, I kind of get tired of constantly just seeing some girl talk to a camera for fifteen minutes. Are we that scared that anything that isn't directly outfit related doesn't count as "lolita content"? or something?

>>10144640
It doesn't have to be Scarfing Scarves but I want to watch a gull YouTuber. Newfags will always be here.

I'm pretty sure this has been asked but what content do actual knowledgable lolitas want to see? Haul videos and "lolita 101" is like a dime a dozen. But lolita arts and crafts seems strange because there are many channels already dedicated to cute Japanese style crafts from accessories to outfits. Talking about new releases is also pretty mundane and I wouldn't call hearing someone's opinion on clothing "good content" in a smash or pass format or as an in depth discussion. Deerstalkers did some fun skits for a while and even Lor started with the "shit lolitas say" meme.

What do y'all even want?

>>10144722
Vlogging can be fun to watch if it’s edited well.
Meet up videos, modeling videos. Look books, maybe speed paints of drawings of lolitas.
Clickbait stuff like “my top 10 favorite AP prints” or “ranking all my brand from most to least wearable” or shit like that.

Reviews of newer indie brands. Maybe history segments that details the timeline of the fashion. Rating submitted pictures of Lolita’s first, and most recent coord.

I’m just spitballing here.

>>10144720
I've thought of doing reviews on alcoholic drinks and teaching people how to make pretty cocktails/coffee drinks while in lolita desu lol

>>10144722
I agree with everything >>10144731 mentioned, especially meetup videos. I'm a lonelita so I want to live vicariously through others.

I've always dreamed of making a Booktube in lolita and be called either the Library Lolita or Reading Lolita (and then my joke would be well, i'm not READING Lolita). I'm such an advent reader, too. I could update my coords and reviews like weekly or bi-weekly. Well, switch up coords. Not like I have 30 dresses....would be cool if I did though.

>>10144784
>reading lolita
Incredible. I love booktube too. Well, parts of it anyway.

>>10144784
Ooh please do, anon! I follow just a few booktubers but it'd be interesting to see a channel with a lolita flavor.

>>10144784
seconded

>>10144784

That's a cool idea! BUT! Booktube is ruthless, man. And you want to throw Lolita bitchy salt into the mix? You better have skin as thick as rubber tires.

95% of the people I follow are booktubers and it's nothing but stttttuppid ass drama.

-White people can't like books about or by black people anymore.
- Black people tubers aren't getting enough followers -therefore- all white booktubers are racists.
-If you liked a book written by a women about a gay boy you're worse than a Nazi.
-Owning hardcovers prove you're an elitists that flaunts their money.
-Having fairy lights or color coding your books PROVES you don't read and you're a fake.

I mean...it goes on and on and on. Granted, drama gets more views. A book review will have 5K hits, for example, but a book review that also has some "tea being spelt" has like 11K views.

>>10144784
>>10144794
The fuck is booktube? Do you read the book aloud or do you just review the book and talk about themes, metaphors and etc. like a book club?

I take it back a lolita book club sounds amazing. Like if you announced you were going to read a book by X date and anyone who wants to join can read it too and over the week send you questions, thoughts and etc. which can be brought up. Maybe that'd work better as a podcast?

>>10144838
It's literally just vloggers but with books. Make up, cooking, drawing, eating, buying things, opening boxes, toy reviews, whatever! Everything has a youtube channel.

Booktubers can vary from diving deep into the material and talk about themes and the like. Or there are others that a dorky/hot looking who just talk about the plot and say if they loved or hated it.

>>10144512
>>10144554
A big portion of Fluffykawaiijo's content is hauls/reviews though

>>10144462
Agreed, and her seeming unawareness if how ugly she is makes it worse, like with that modeling vid

>>10144834
Can you link one of those reviews? I didn't know booktube was a thing.

>tfw a bazillion ideas for short stories and more but no cool comm to film them with

>>10144889
>tfw the resources to do something of deerstalker quality but also no comm to film them with

I have a lot of ideas but the only ones I can do on my own would be vlogs of my daily lolita lifestyle and wardrobe tour/hauls.

>>10144889
mood

>>10144733
If you ever decide to actually do it you'll have at least one sub.

>>10144889
Can you draw? Can you use flash? You don't need a comm to do it.

Just saw Lor's Bee-lita vid and while I actually really like her, WTF?

Why is she bending herself backwards into a pretzel to be nice about this person? Who are these people that told her she's a bully? Why do I feel like it was an Amino group? She's basically saying that we as a group need to be nice and inclusive to unidentified sissies and sexual predators (because we are scared).

>>10145049
Didn't she say it happened in 2011? Was Amino even around back then? Highly doubt it. I don't think she was trying to be nice to say that we need to be inclusive of sissies and predators, but just to keep her appearance as *Lovely* Lor.

>>10145049
I felt that too. I was like... BITCH CALL OUT THE FUCKING NO PANTI MASK WEARING CRAZY PERSON!! But instead she’s like oh my I don’t know if that’s like.. their... fetish. I wish them luck and I hope they’re thriving. Wtf?? I know it’s cause she’ll get heat if she’s ‘mean’ about it, but sometimes it’s ok to just be not ok with THOSE things.

>>10144838
>lolita book club
Please god
>what is booktube
It’s like makeup reviews and clothes hauls, except book reviews and book hails.

Resources on how to host an event.
DIY invitation tutorials
Cooking tutorials
How to find a venue/ how to decorate for themes
Smth about tea, making tea bags, tea set organization
FAQ videos answering about comm member participation and payment
Culminating in a vlog recap of the final event!

>>10145063
Oh I was under the impression that she recently went looking for info on this person as research for this vid. I feel like back in 2011 people wouldn't get hug boxy over sissies.

>>10145049
>>10145063
>>10145066

I'm honestly super disappointed in her desu. How can she be all on this train of outing a con chair as a creep and horrible person when he never sexually assaulted anyone, the most he did was use words to make people uncomfortable and tried to stick more work on her and ScarfingScarves , yet this literal fetishist in a fucking mask displaying his genitals who makes everyone so uncomfortable they had to send a dude in is okay? Let's worry about how he identify and his pronouns and maybe he's in a different fashion.

>>10144462
I usually don't care if a lolita is ugly, but she's so ugly I can barely watch her stuff. Really cringy too.

>>10144709
Yeah the AP modeling. What does she think? A girl in the comments was saying it's about having a cute face and small waist, but Jo seems too in denial to accept it, or too pc to say it

>>10145136
>too pc to say it
I think it's this one. She can't say that AP won't pick people if they aren't cute if "everybody can be kawaii".

>>10145138
I haven't watched that video but I think that almost everyone can be kawaii but that doesn't mean that everyone of them can be a model?

That's like saying that everyone that's beautiful or fit can be a model. There are various body and face types in even people that are considered typically attractive that will never be models because that's just don't what the designers or the industry is looking for.

>>10145179
True. But I don't agree with the statement regardless.

>>10144462
She's genetic mutation-tier fucked.

>>10145138
Yeah, would go against everything she tells her (presumably insecure) fans. Would shatter some of their world views for sure

>>10145179
Yeah, thing is her slogan is "everyone can be kawaii". Therefoe, she can't really admit one can be too "un-kawaii" to model for the most kawaii brand of all. You're right of course, but she can't say that.

>>10145070
THIS.
I want to start hosting better events and while I want to start small resources like this would be super awesome.

>>10145207
>>10144462
Ah! Non! C'est un peu court, jeune homme! On pouvait dire, oh! Dieu!
Bien des choses en somme.
En variant le ton- par exemple, tenez:
Agressif: “moi, monsieur, si j'avais un tel nez, Il faudrait sur le champ que je me l'amputasse!”
Amical: “mais il doit tremper dans votre tasse : Pour boire, faites-vous fabriquer un hanap!”
Descriptif: “c'est un roc! c'est un pic, c'est un cap! Que dis-je, c'est un cap? c'est une péninsule!”

>>10144462
She looks like the penguin.

>>10144640
>the alternative is a horde of newfags who want to be "just like meme-mommy Tyler ùwú" who will flood the board
Are you seriously implying that hasn't already happened. Do you even fucking lurk here?

>>10145271
Lost my keks at péninsule.

>>10144928
Make that two subs.

>>10145378
Third sub lining up to see pretty drinks.

>>10145383
Damn. I want a lolita bartending/food channel.
All the ck lolitas should get together.

>>10145373
No, I'm implying that it could get even worse. Thanks for asking.

>>10145401
Then your reply doesn't make sense. She's not introducing anything- they clearly already come here.

>>10145383
Alright alright alright. Time to gather resources haha.

>>10145414
Nayrt but if Tyler named /cgl/ directly by name that means an even higher amount of newfags, who otherwise would’ve had the gull references fly over their heads, will probably start posting
The Tyler wannabes who post already probably already knew about /cgl/ before her

>>10145459
...you are under estimating the amount of posters here on a daily basis. Don't forget there are definitely 12 year olds from YouTube posting here.

>>10145459
Admitting you use 4chan irl is always a bad idea. Best case people will think you’re embarrassing, worst case they’ll think making eye contact with you will give their computer a virus.

>>10145467
Cats already out of the bag. She should own up to it.

would you watch her youtube channel, gulls?

>>10145505
No, she’s still fat, cringe, and has an entitled attitude with lackluster coords to match

>>10145505
Yes. I like how genuine she is even if she's not cute

>>10144429
Cathy Cat has a cool side channel of her interviewing japanese people while wearing lolita! Its called Ask Japanese

>>10145031
I know, I'm slowly learning both but most of the time seeing the real physical fashion in movement is superior, especially for one series of stories that is inspired by prints and dress names. Maybe mixed media is the answer, haha.

>>10145750
>shilling cathycat on /cgl/
Are you stupid, ignorant, or both

>>10145750
Cathy Cat is a rape apologist so no thanks

>>10145756
didn't know that, put her on the wall

>>10145757
Fucking newfags are infesting this place

>>10145758
sorry, grandma

>>10145759
>grandma
>the cathy cat drama happened in 2017
it's embarrassing how new you are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xnm5ZrfEWlw

>>10145804
>happened in 2017
>some literallywho that doesn't deserve attention
>thinking that being here since two years ago makes you not a newfag
go the fuck away, child

>>10144232
I think this is the prettiest I’ve ever seen Lor look

>>10145756
She was in a contract just like Misako it was not much she could do.

>>10145505
Boring can't watch one of her videos entirely

>>10145983
Speaking of which, didn't Misako also work with them? And yet nobody's ostracizing Misako for it.

>>10146320
Becouse Misako is Japanese, j girls are never ita or make mistakes

>>10145983
She didn’t even know about it because she knows nothing about lolita except it’s kawiwi cosplay

What do you guys think of Embroidered Doll?

>>10144733
I would definitely watch this, good to watch things that are different from the usual content

>>10146320
There were some people here criticizing her for it but they were drowned out by the yellowfever weebs who think she’s just some dumb ignorant Japanese doll who’s uwu perfect

Any new lolita channels that sprouted recently?

>>10146497
Never heard of her, but after a quick search
>hasn’t uploaded in a month
>just sitting on her bed and talking
>utter shit audio quality
>annoying voice and accent
She’s not ugly or ita so she could get popular if she ever started producing halfway decent content but as it stands she’s nothing.

>>10146497
Is that you?
But anyway, her audio is shit, but she is cute. I don't actively follow what she does, but I played all her videos untill a few months ago while drawing. 10/10 background noise.

I want to make videos like Spill but for the lolita community. Does anyone have a mic recommendation?

>>10146497
I watched a few, but unsubscribed because her videos are pointless and self centered. Why would I care about what you think when I don't even know who you are?

>>10146572
If you’re just doing voice overs you won’t need anything really intense. A basic mic will be fine since you’ll be speaking in a more controlled environment with no distance between you and the microphone.

>>10146572
If you’re just doing voice overs you won’t need anything really intense. A basic mic will be fine since you’ll be speaking in a more controlled environment with no distance between you and the microphone.

>>10146686
>Why would I care about what you think when I don't even know who you are?
Why even watch YouTube then? The place is full of nobodies.

>>10146572
Blue Yetis are good for the price. Depending on what you want to spend they also have the Yeti Snowball that isn't as good, but it is probably fine for a voice over.

this might be a dumb question but is Kawaii Pateen affiliated with Cathy Cat or Ask Japanese? I don't really want to support CC but I like some of the KP tutorials.

>>10147055
CC worked for Kawaii Pateen, but I think also Misako or Venus did, I don't think is a problem with supporting her through kawaii pateen

I’m not sure if this is the correct place to ask but does anyone know what is going on with princess peachies hair? It looks so stringly and it’s even balding at the roots.

>>10147135
Her health isn't the best afaik.

>>10147135
She is very ill and pills cause her loss for her. Leaver her be, please.

>>10144784
>advent reader
...I would support this endeavor, if only to make sure you were furthering your own education.

Oh! A girl in our comm just rebooted her yt channel and posted a new video if anyone is interested

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_mEw7h3jYs&feature=share

>>10147177
Maybe they just like reading so much that every december they read one book a day until Christmas

>>10145083
>inb4 the beelita was the conchair all along

>>10147010
Yeah. So make it interesting so I can care what you think. Like other youtubers.

Do any of the MilkyFawn /Deerstalker Pictures girls do lolita anymore or did they all "grow" out of it?

I honestly feel like Lor would do this forever. SS might give it another 5 years before moving on.

>>10147366

Vysanthe still does lolita from time to time as well as her bf technotropism who does aristo/ouji. they just don't do videos anymore because of the time involved and anything with the word lolita tends to get demonetized. I'm sure some other lolitas in the community who participated in their videos still wear it too.

>>10147366
Vysanthe still wears lolita/otome fashion as far as I can tell.
Lor might wear it forever but it'll be because that's her claim to fame, not because she'll still care about it.
Meanwhile SS might stop wearing it in a few years but she'll always care about it.

>>10147366

Piggybacking off this. How old is the oldes't Lolita you know?

>>10147371
Late 30s, I think? I did meet a lady in at least her 40s at a meet from out of town recently.

>>10147371
I'm 38 but I follow a couple lolitas on insta in their mid to late 40s

>>10147371
I just turned 30 and it was my first time building a coord. I was a "lolita at heart" for like...ten years before I had the means to actually DO the hobby I've always liked.

>>10147371
I'm 51, I'll be 52 in a few months.
do I win?

>>10147453
You know I think it's pretty impressive of you to express youself in such extreme fashion. Most women your age seems, at least where I'm from, terrified to even be considered different. Which style do you wear?

>>10147497
Gothic and egl. I wear western goth when I'm not in lolita, so it's not really that big a stretch.

>>10147362
None of them are really interesting- just trainwrecks.

>>10147370
>Meanwhile SS might stop wearing it in a few years but she'll always care about it.
Not surprising at all. She's such a fucking phony.

Who tf is SS?

>>10147542
ScarfingScarves.

>>10147371
There are two women in their early 50’s in my comm. One wears gothic lolita beautifully and is a huge inspiration to me, but the other dresses like a teenage weeb who thinks anything with a skirt and some lace is automatically kawaii rori desu. The latter is also really rude and unpleasant and funnily enough blames her unpopularity in the comm entirely on ageism.

>>10147371
50s.

(Though I’m 28 and I feel old compared to most people in my comm.)

>>10147541
....?

>>10147541
How did you get that from what was written? If anything the post implies Lor is the phony.

>>10147620
Lor will probably continue to wear the fashion. Meanwhile Tyler is the type to drop it when she gets bored.

Seems fitting for her little made up character she is supposedly portraying.

>>10147637
Ngl SS' character doesn't really feel like a character, like it just seems like a pushed version of her darker side of her personality.

>>10147646
I feel this way too.

>>10147637
>Tyler is the type to drop it when she gets bored
Do you know her personally or are you pulling this out of your ass?

>>10147653
I'm basing it off of what >>10147370 said.

>>10147684
So does >>10147366 know Tyler personally, then? You can't claim someone is a certain type of person based on some anonymous rando's opinion.

>>10147684
Except that anon said the exact opposite of what you’re purporting.
The post you quoted literally said “she’ll always care about it”
Did you trade your brains for brand?

>>10147692
When did I claim to know her personally? I didn't. You started that.

>>10147366
>SS might give it another 5 years before moving on.
>>10147717
No they said she'd drop it 5 years from now.

>>10147366
SS has been in the fashion since LJ. What are you on?

>>10147736
You utter neanderthal. Think before you speak next time, and then think harder before you misquote posts.

>>10147744
You can't care about a hobby you don't participate in anymore. I can totally see her selling off her entire wardrobe and jumping on some other trend.

>>10147750
im probably going to get bored of lolita eventually but ill hoard all my dresses so nobody can have them except for me

>>10147752
Hilarious.

>>10147750
Considering the number of RPers on this board, we all know that’s not true.

>>10147750
I don't see her doing that at all. She still wears goth even though she's not making videos on it anymore. You're just bitter and easily bored

>>10147756
it's not a joke? even if i stop wearing it, i still like the dresses and want to keep them

>>10147646
I think so too, but people always say she’s just playing a character whenever anyone criticizes her attitude.

>>10147764
You don't think those people actually care, do you? They're here to fuck with women, not because they care about the fashion.

>>10147791
Oof, can't read sarcasm huh?

>>10148077
Yeah, that's why I said what I said about her just leaving it all behind in a few years not being shocking. Cgl usually consists of the opinion that she's not really like that and is "playing a character" - shes clearly not a character actor so if everyone is insisting it's all an act, why wouldn't she just move on to something else in 5 years when this gets boring.

>>10144232
>>10144481
>>10145271
Nothin like a good schnoz :^)

>>10146572
The M-Audio Uber Mic is also a very nice and affordable choice. It has multiple polar patterns too.

>>10147135
Women don't age well.

>>10152273
...Neither do men?

>>10152273
Don't be an asshole, she's sick.

>>10147379
Can you share handles? I'd love to follow more lolitas in their 30s+

>>10152273
>>10152286
Actually, people now a days are aging way better than they used to.

>>10147366
Who is SS?

>>10147366
Lor was ugly as a teen so even as a 60years old lolita it would not look spooky but with a cute girl it would look dissapointing and sad

>>10147637
Nope, Tyler is more of a lolita than Lor, just compare the wardrobe of the two, Lor is into lolita becouse of earnings

>>10152585
ScarvingScarves.

>>10152586
So being ugly is... Good?

>>10152600
No it’s just someone projecting their insecurities about being ugly and trying to make it sound desirable to be ugly.

>>10152589
I don't think you can determine how much a lolita someone is based on the size of their wardrobe. Maybe Tyler just has a spending problem.

>>10152589
Lor wears other styles besides lolita so it's no wonder her lolita wardrobe is relatively small and limited. She's not a daily lolita, she doesn't wear it often, and apparently she has a tendency to wear things that don't fit her properly so she's often uncomfortable in it. I don't know whether she's into it for money or views, but with all those things considered, it's pretty understandable.

>>10152605
I think Tyler is the type who just keeps every dress she's bought over the years. She's been in the fashion since LJ days, but if she doesn't sell a lot it's understandable she has a lot. Maybe she does sell a few things but you don't get a whole room full of lolita the way she has overnight or by cycling one piece in one piece out the way Lor does.

Lor sells and replaces pretty much every piece once she gets sick of it (bar a few dream dresses), and she only really wears the fashion for videos, photoshoots and cons, so she has a lot less understandably.

Fkj just posted a pic of her first coord, and despite everything that could be said about her Quasimodo looking ass, I gotta say I’m glad she’s lost weight and at least had decent taste in French anime.

>>10155067
Doesn’t look like she’s lost weight at all. This is just a bad angle. She’s still very large.

>>10152786
Honestly for the amount Tyler has she does not have a lot if she just keeps every piece she buys. I know girls who have been in the fashion for three years that have more than her and that have still sold lots of what they first bought.

>>10155071
Any more would be hoarding.

>>10155120
You clearly don’t know what hoarding is but okay. Yes, adding ANY more, even one more dress, would give her a serious life altering problem.

>>10155132
>Yes, adding ANY more, even one more dress, would give her a serious life altering problem.
even though she has an entire room for it?

>>10155140
I thought it was a closet? It's only like 60 dresses anyways, that's a decent amount but not a ton

>>10155145
She said in one of her videos it was 52 iirc. And yes, it’s a closet. >>10155140 is just retarded.

>>10155140
If it is well organized, limited to one room/closet, and not putting her in physical/mental/financial distress it’s not hoarding, or close to any kind of a problem.

>>10147554
Sounds like a Tiffy clone.

>>10152600
Not necessarily, but a good bone structure might be better than a round face. Round chubby faces look cute when young, but they tend to get jowls as they age. Think Virgie Tovar. Okay, maybe not as extreme and aggressively ugly as that, but you get the picture. Think Yoda to name a non cuntish example. People with good cheekbones, a structured jaw, and a nose with personality as they say to be polite, may look more mature than their age when young and have complexes about not being neotenous and kawaii uwu, but they can grow into their features and aging may be easier for them. Think a bunch of top models with strong features.

>>10152613
Lor is someone who could benefit from intermittent fasting. It's much easier to not have a pretty face when your body is in shape instead of chubby, you fit into your dresses, and you're healthier. Butterface is not a death sentence, but fatty liver disease is.

>>10155067
The slimness of her nose is emphasized by her chubby face. If she lost weight and the chub in her face, got some cheekbones for example, it wouldn't stand out like a sore thumb as much.

>>10155148
50-60 dresses is too many. It's not huge by lolita standards but it's excessive in general.

>>10155194
U what. 60 is fine for someone who regularly wears the fashion. Stop trying to police other peoples wardrobes, it just makes you look like a jealous poorfag.

>>10155194

oh god someone else who jumped on the minimalist sustainable nano wardrobe you can only view under a microscope. don't you have some more marie kondo on netflix to watch?

>>10155194
No it’s not, this is stupid.

>>10155197
>stop having an opinion I disagree with

>>10155071
Who tf are these people? If they're in the fashion less than three years and have a wardrobe bigger than Tyler's that sounds like a spending problem or they are just more than middle class rich. That would literally cost thousands in a pretty short time frame, you'd have to be buying multiple dresses a month plus shoes and accessories and bags. It's not like lolita is an easily accessible fast fashion store.

50 - 60 is a good size for use and wear and Tyler has been in the fashion for close to a decade. More than 100 dresses might be questionable imo.
> Although I am a single middle class worker so maybe if I had a bigger job and a partner's financial support I'd feel differently. IDK

>>10155298
When I hear people saying "oh that's such a small wardrobe for 'x' amount of time" I just assume they're comparing it to people who buy cheap taobao shit. Tyler's whole collection is japanese brand.

Also some of us are picker than others. I've counted all the dresses I could ever want and there's only about 60-70.

>>10145083
Fuck off. He constantly tried to get them isolated to control and intimidate them, Tyler in her hotel room for fuck's sake. That's not behavior that leaves room for much doubt. Only a creep would say something to defend it.

>>10145083
When literally committing sexual assault is the bar for labelling someone as a creep, you know something has gone wrong with society

>>10155148
How is a closet not a room. The video I saw looked like a walk in closet.

>>10155307
I always find these discussions on wardrobe size really interesting.
I am like you, I have a smaller wardrobe and can't picture having a huge wardrobe even as someone who aims to wear it more daily just because I would end up wearing the ones I love most of the time.

I don't think it is wild to have more if that is just how you work with clothes.

>>10155067
>French anime
>French
>anime

>>10155345
I was more referring to the fact that according to Lor (and some people that told her she was being hateful or whatever?), words = creep that totally needs to be outed, while literally displaying your gentials while hiding your face and using a lolita meet to get off = they are just a lost soul. "We don't even know his pronouns!"

What kind of crazy shit is that? If you're going to speak out against creeps why would you protect ones that are even scarier creeps.

>>10155442
Oh I definitely think the bee-lita was a massive creep and a danger. I agree with you on that and I'm pretty disappointed that Lor didn't seem to take that situation seriously. My comm would not have been that lenient. I wish she had called out that creep in the same way she called out the con creep, but I understand that because they don't know who the bee-lita was, it's actively harder to warn people about him vs the predatory con chair. Unfortunately his anonymity turns him into an uncomfortable anecdote rather than someone to warn people about.

On second thought though, she could have given advice at the end about how a comm could deal with such a creep. Like, in my comm the admin and her friends probably would have chased the guy off or someone would have "gone to the bathroom" and called the police

>>10155307
I’m not sure when Tyler started lolita but sweet lolita is cheaper than ever. I know gothic is expensive and classic depends, but you could easily find half the prints in her wardrobe for around 100 dollars. The people saying her wardrobe is small could be newer and used to super cheap secondhand brand prices

>>10155307
I think you've misunderstood. or I'm misunderstanding if you're directing the comment at me that I'm saying you need x amount for x years or as a general you think people who say that own cheap taobao.

I think 50 -60 dresses is a great amount to have and Tyler has collected hers over several years. I was responding to someone who said they had friends in the fashion for only 3 years who had more than 50 -60 dresses, and imo that seems like overkill for such a short timeframe - or indicative of poor spending habits or more than average wealth. This is under the assumption the people in the fashion OP is talking about are buying all brand like Tyler and not Taobao.

>>10155957
I think you just have the mindset of a poor person

>>10155957
>poor spending habits or more than average wealth
Lol, I'm middle class and amassed a pretty large brand wardrobe during my teens on my own dollar. Have people here never had jobs before, or?

>>10155957

50 dresses over 36 months is approximately 1-2 dresses a month. Most of us with jobs can manage that comfortably with extra budgeting for accessories and other lolita basics. Are you living in bumfuck Europe or someplace with insane inflation?

>>10155957
That’s less than 2 dresses per month on average even if you go with a high number of 60, which isn’t crazy or as unfathomable for someone middle class as you’re making it out to be, even if you factor in blouses, shoes, etc. Poorfag defected.

>>10155957
I wasn't directing the comment at you in a negative way. I was trying yo support your opinion/agree with you.

>>10155964
This makes it sound like your rent/bills was/is being paid for you. In which case buying even 4 dresses a month isn't hard.

>>10155983
>surprised that a child is having their rent paid and bills paid for them

????
?????????

>>10155992
Why would you compare your wardrobe as a child to most lolitas who are adults with jobs and bills to pay? Nayrt.

To anyone who saw Tallulah's new video pop up, don't bother wasting 12 minutes if your life. She admitted she's a hoarder, showed us how damn cramped and messy her room is due to the sheer amount of clothes, put all her clothes out and found two unopened AP bags with misty sky, complained how hard and time consuming organizing hrr clothes is and then in the end just squeezed them in her closet and boxes again while calling it "decluttering". I honestly just feel bad for her at this point.

>>10155993
Because if a kid working min wage part time or somewhere around that range can manage so can an adult who has a steady job. Unless you have some shit retail job in which case, it’s your own fault.

>>10155993
Ayrt and this >>10155997
If I was only making minimum wage weekends and after school while paying for some of my own things (like gas and phone) a fully functioning adult should be able to do the same and so much more with a 400-1200% increase.

It's not like I can't confirm this, because I am now an adult who pays her own way now and continues to operate steadily. Go to school, gulls.

>>10155994
par for the course for Jahr, then; She's been hoarding like this for years now. She needs help.

>>10155194

Am I the only one who kinda misses nekopocky DESS?
She always made me giggle. It's a shame autists thought she was serious and trolled her off youtube.

I miss Milkyfawn desu, why did autists have to bully her out of the fashion?

>>10158268
She was also allegedly feeling trapped in it and felt stifled by her slight hoarding tendencies. But yeah, I miss her too.

>>10155964
I personally haven't had a real job since I was a teenager as I've just been studying non-stop. All I've had time for was babysitting and when I applied for places I was always hired by small businesses that were going bankrupt and wouldn't pay up.

I work as a freelance artist now and I'm still a massive noob with two dresses but that's more because I only spend what I get from commissions or gift money on lolita if I don't need it for rent or food.

Even if you're a poorfag you can get lolita, it'll just take longer than a normal person with a decent job.

>>10158271
sounds like you're making a whole lotta mistakes pal

>>10158271
Get a fucking job

>>10158316
Ok

>>10158316
did you miss the part where it says
>I've just been studying non-stop
They're probably a full-time college student who does art on the side for some pocket money.

>>10155968
What I find more unbelivable is being able to find 2 dresses you like every month. I'm lucky if I find one dress I wanna buy every 6 months and I've been in lolita since 2013. Admittedly my wardrobe is quite small due to that.

>>10158332
Part of me wishes I had your taste anon because there are very few dresses out there that I don't like and wouldn't wear. I would literally own thousands of dresses if I had infinite money because I like the majority of what I see

>>10158332
Most people aren’t as picky as you. I once bought 9 brand mainpieces in a month.

>>10158332
I'm the same way, anon. My boyfriend is always super confused as to why I spend hours going through mercari and fril without buying anything.

>>10158335
Do you buy non prints or just don't care about that sort of thing and just buy whatever?

>>10159784
I bought printed items, mostly AP, though I did buy a solid older velveteen piece from baby. the vast majority were items I had on my list to buy eventually, and the ones that weren’t were items I fell in love with immediately. It just lined up that a bunch of pieces I wanted popped up at once. Though on average I buy at least two mainpieces a month. I don’t really have budgetary limitations of any kind, so there are instances where I buy a ton at once.

>>10159791
Oh ok but I'm not really talking about this one specific time where you bought 9 main pieces at once.

>on average I buy at least two mainpieces a month.
So you don't care about what the prints are? You just buy stuff?

>>10159805
I gave it as an example.

>So you don't care about what the prints are? You just buy stuff?

I didn’t say that at all, in fact I kinda said the opposite, but okay. Troll on I guess.

>>10159805
>the vast majority were items I had on my list to buy eventually, and the ones that weren’t were items I fell in love with immediately. It just lined up that a bunch of pieces I wanted popped up at once.
>So you don't care about what the prints are? You just buy stuff?

you didn’t even read the post did you

>>10159806
Oh my fucking christ. I'm just asking questions, not trying to troll. But whatever. Don't answer.

>>10159807
They were talking about when they bought 9 pieces at once and they all just happened to show up online at the same time. That doesn't usually happen so I was asking what is the usual reason for buying so much at once.

You both took these questions really fucking personal for no reason.

>>10159809
I did answer, before >>10159805 was posted too, and so you saying the exact opposite of what I had already said looked like trolling. Calm down, no need to get so triggered.

>>10159816
No, those were both of my posts and you didn't answer the other questions I had. Just about the time 9 pieces showed up.

It's ok. You don't have to talk to me. Someone who is looking to discuss on topic stuff on lolita.

but you've made up your mind and I'm clearly trolling.

>>10159818
Dude if you just knew how to read you wouldn’t have asked that question

>>10159822
>Though on average I buy at least two mainpieces a month. I don’t really have budgetary limitations of any kind, so there are instances where I buy a ton at once.

So am I to take this part as "I don't give a fuck about prints because I have so much money that it doesn't matter"?

It's starting to come across like this anon doesn't even own any fucking lolita.
If someone asked me this question, I would have no issue coming up with a reply.

This has all been nothing but question dodging.

>>10159824
No, learn to read, it’ll make things clear

>>10159824
this reads like some heavy projection

>>10159828
Is this all you know how to say. Because we've gone over this in depth now but you just reply with the same shit over and over.

>>10159830
Tell me how it answers the question without replying with a meme.

>>10159831
Once you go back and actually read it the conversation can go forward

Is it coincidental that all the people Lor surrounds herself with are e-famous in some way? Aside from her girlfriend I never really see her posting pictures with people that don't have some sort of kawaii social media presence and she sure latched on to Tyler pretty quickly once she started blowing up.

>>10159832
the question that you asked despite being answered was if that anon doesn’t care about prints, when she already said she did, that they were specific prints she wanted. now you can stop sperging out so much

>>10159836
Doesn't her gf also have a YouTube? Just not jfash.

I have noticed that efamers and wannabe efamers tend to try and befriend other efamers. Kate is actually the worst of doing this. I think Lor just genuinely likes Tyler but I am super sick of their circlejerk desu.

>>10159838
So does she love all prints then? Or does she have a really long list of prints that she wants?

>sperging
you did a bad job at not memeing.

>>10159846
now you’re just being intentionally dense, if she likes specific prints, then no, she wouldn’t like all prints. are you esl?

>>10159847
Just stop responding, I did, because it’s blatantly a troll. And on the offhand chance it isn’t a troll this person has some serious comprehension issues and I feel bad making fun of people like that, even if we are on the chinz.

>>10159847
>intentionally dense
Just because someone is asking questions doesn't make them dense. You just don't like discussing on topic things.

>>10159849
I was never trolling and was attempting to talk about things that are on topic to the board. But you clearly don't want to d that instead want to just accuse someone of trolling instead of having a discussion.

you're both fucking trolling.

>>10159849
you’re right, they obviously are misreading things on purpose and trying to b8

>>10159846

Ok to seriously answer your question, some people have a large closet because they like the aesthetic of lolita and a large portion of what is out there appeals to them. Some people have a very long list of wishlist dresses and a large closet they have in mind. Sometimes it's a bit of both, like me.

I don't like prints that much personally, but I like the details in lolita, such as pintucks, lace, and construction. I also like florals. That is a huge swath of classic lolita. So yes, I am rather attracted to a large amount of prints in lolita. Not to mention lolita isn't a dead stagnant pool of historical dresses like true vintage fashion, there are new releases coming in every season, so there are new things to buy if it appeals to me.

I can buy 2 dresses a month because my budget allows it.

Did that answer your question? I'm not sure how much clearer we can make it for you. I wasn't any of the original anons but you seem really frustrated with being unable to take the viewpoint of someone with a larger closet.

>>10159869
Thanks. I have a small wardrobe cause I'm picky so I was curious about how someone could just buy all kinds of prints unless they just didn't care about the prints or had a really long wishlist.

>>10159968
How can you struggle this much with seeing other people’s perspectives? It’s not hard unless you’re an idiot.

>>10159970
>It’s not hard unless you’re an idiot

you just answered the question, that anon is an idiot

>>10159836
Of course it's not coincidental

>>10159968
Do you even like this fashion? That's so odd that you buy so infrequently. Makes me wonder what it is that you like, I personally love almost everything Baby and Meta release so my wardrobe is fairly large (as much as I can afford buying mainly new releases)

>>10160009

maybe she's the person with the 15 gathered chiffons JSKs

>>10160009
Nayrt, I'm >>10158332 but my style is a weird mish-mash of sweet and gothic, and I usually don't like prints, I prefer solids and very very subdued prints. But I also don't like having samey items in my wardrobe so each new addition must be special in its own way. I hope this answers how can someone be picky while actually liking the fashion.


On another note, I find it really weird when people look at a dress they own and go "oh it has bunnies on it, I never noticed before!" like how Tyler did in her wardrobe video. Do they buy without looking at what they buy? I can't imagine buying anything without checking every detail before t b h.

>>10160040
You’re sounding more and more like you’re jealous of those who have the capacity to buy a lot and trying to play it off and make the people that do look bad.

>>10160040
I'm not a big "small detail" oriented person. I prefer buying dresses based on cut and color, less about miniscule print details, because I want it to compliment me more than just be a cute detailed drawing. So i can understand why she might not notice.

>>10160051
>>10160040
No I think I understand this anon even though my wardrobe is a bigger one (I think). Gothic-classic solids are easy to find. Sweet-gothic hybrid solids that are special are rare, there is maybe one or two AATP release a season that fits that criteria. No other brand at all that I can think of, maybe millefleurs and Meta but they are doing less and less that meets that. Maybe two Meta releases per year. Meta is getting too sweet-classic nowadays, I only buy maybe one or two releases a season and I used to love everything they made

>>10160051
If I wanted to buy a lot I would buy a lot, what is there to be jealous of? Reselling the items I bought on impulse is a pain in the ass when it turns out I don't like something about them.
Also I never said anything to indicate it's bad to buy a lot or something. You sound insecure.

>>10160061
>Also I never said anything to indicate it's bad to buy a lot or something.

Except you did, when you were trolling earlier.

>>10160063
>>10160040
>Nayrt, I'm >>10158332
You need to work on your reading comprehension sweaty. This was my second post in the thread.

>>10160058
Thank you for the explanation. It makes sense even though it is not how my mind works.

>>10160059
Exactly.

>>10160009
Ayrt
I mostly like sweet but also some gothic. I'm really particular about cuts so a lot of prints I really like but if the cut is not something I want to wear I won't pay for it.

>do you even like this fashion
I do and I wear it a lot even though I only have 24 pieces. I have a very cohesive and concise wardrobe.
It's mostly AP but I have a few baby and aatp pieces. And some stuff from taobao.

>>10160040
>Do they buy without looking at what they buy?
Thats why I was asking in the first place. Thank you for putting it into words I couldn't.
If someone is buying two main pieces a month, I wonder how much they really like what they're purchasing.

>>10160207
You know you are allowed to like many items brands put out right? There isn’t just a brand or one look. I buy several things a month and love it all. I rarely sell because I am picky enough to know I want it badly when I buy things, but also am able to be diverse in my look to bring in different brands, some not always Lolita, for items. I wear Lolita regularly and have a big closet full of prints and solids.

>>10160207
>If someone is buying two main pieces a month, I wonder how much they really like what they're purchasing.
lolwat
Is it really that difficult for you to imagine that someone might like many designs in lolita? Seriously, anon.

>>10160207

I’m trying really hard to be sympathetic to you, but you’re making it really hard. If you can’t bother understanding despite multiple anons explaining, some painstakingly spelling it out, then you’re hopeless.

>>10160219
>>10160218
It’s obviously a troll being intentionally obtuse.

>>10160229
This. I gave anon the benefit of the doubt but nobody can be that dense without trying.

>>10147135
Her hair has always been like this tho, not to mention she has health issues.
Her Japan trip vids are quite nice

>>10159841
>>10159836
Tyler and lor met at a convention. It's obvious that if you share e-fame with someone in the same category, you would end up having something in common. This is such a dumb reach to hate on lor. Of course she'd share more pics of e-famous lolitas? that's what people want to see, doesn't mean she doesn't ever talk to normies.

>>10160240
No, her hair was pretty nice when she was young and first started making videos.

>>10160229
Man fuck off. This is the reason we can't have discussions because anons like you just want to shut shit down with "no ur trolling"

I'm asking follow up questions that you apparently can't answer. Like I said previously- I would have no trouble responding to a question like this.

Are unable to understand >>10160040 as well??

>>10160429

There’s a difference between having a discussion and talking to someone with the EQ of a toddler.

>>10160352
I think you're a little naive about her ego. She's always been into it
for the attention.
>>10160429
This isn't a real discussion and it doesn't have anything to do with the topic at this point, you need to fuck off and everyone needs to stop responding to you.
sage ostensibly off topic

>>10160429
You are acting like an absolute retard, you fuck off.

>>10160436
Eq. Wow.

>>10160437
It could have been a real discussion but trolls ruined it by gaslighting.

>>10160440
Typical name calling. You don't have anything worthwhile to say. You just wanted to respond.

>>10160451
>several people are telling me I am the problem but I’m just going to ignore it
>not knowing what EQ is and how it applies to the situation

I really want to believe you’re just trolling and not a literal honest to god retard who managed to get onto a computer unsupervised

I feel like im the only one who doesnt enjoy watching SS, i find her voice really annoying and her humor not fun to watch.
I like the concept of her videos and wish someone else would do something like it

>>10160715
I am eh on them. I don't hate her or anything, but I only watch her videos when I do my makeup for meets at this point to be up to date on what's been happening. The format got boring for me after awhile. There isn't actually that much "news" in lolita so that might be why.
Tyler is super nice in real life, but that isn't enough to make me enjoy the content.

>>10160437
>She's always been into it for the attention.
Uh...Yeah? She's a youtube personality, of course she'd try to garner attention for more views and subscribers. That's how you become popular online. Pretty much everyone who posts to social media does it for attention in some way. It'd be naive to think people don't actively seek attention, especially in the lolita community.

>>10160777
I think anon means she doesn't seem genuine.

>>10160717
>The format got boring for me after awhile.
That's what I've been saying for the longest time. She needs to get rid of her already watered down format and do a different take and drop the "character" along with the fake news voice from fucking 1975 SNL.

>>10160806
that also seems obvious, most people project a positive image of themselves online

>>10160924
It seems like you don't know what genuine means.

>>10160874
Why would she do that? That's what makes her unique and most people watch her for her delivery and corny jokes. I don't like her videos but her approach works for a lot of people.

>>10155407
Yes, and?

>>10160947
>That's what makes her unique
It doesn't. It has been done to death by many people since before she was born.

>>10160970
It makes her unique in the lolita community since she’s the only one doing that. You may not like her content, but that doesn’t change the fact that she’s gaining subscribers. It’s clearly working for her so why would she try to change it?

>>10160976
>It makes her unique in the lolita community since she’s the only one doing that
It doesn't though. She found a niche to capitalize on using a watered down format that has been overused for decades at this point.

I'm not the only person who feels this way either. It might seem that way when I post about this because anons like to dogpile contrarian opinions and fangirl Tyler to death instead of admitting they enjoy repetitive shit.

>>10160806
>>10160924
Yeah of fucking course it's obvious, that's what I'm saying, people in this thread are talking like everything she does isn't for attention, and I'm saying she makes friends with people for the fame it gets her and she doesn't present her true personality, beyond just a "positive image". What >>10160931 said, but adding that it's probably because you don't see being fake all the time as an issue.

Holy shit there are some morons in this thread.

>>10161013
This thread and most YouTube threads I've been in have been fucking abysmal.

>>10160931
can you guys read? people are almost never "genuine" online. People project an image of themselves to look better. Literally what I said. You guys would have to be super stupid to think everyone acts the exact same way online as they do irl. What a stupid reason to shit on someone. "being fake all the time" like you've seen her all the time.
I don't even like Lor but you guys are reaching hard for reasons to dislike her at this point.

>>10161037
Honey don't feign intellectualism here, you already look like an absolute twit. No one fucking thinks that people act the exact same online and IRL. But we do think Lor is super duper fake, to use terms more in-line with your capacities. Please sit down.

>>10161037
Welcome to cgl, home of mental gymnastics.

>>10161044
>we
kek. sure, we.
you're shitting on someone you don't know about something you've invented about them to rationalise your hatred.. What did i even say that came off as "intellectualism"? are you this insecure in your intelligence?

>>10161037
>can you guys read?
This thread has become more about reading skills than about actual youtubers.

>>10160352
Exactly. I am also active on Instagram and whenever I'd share pics with my real friends my reach would hit rock bottom. Not to mention normal friends don't like the attention much. So it makes sense to share about people you colloborate with instead. I'm sure if one of Lor's friends decided to be a Youtuber or something Lor would also promote them as much as she can but sharing pics of your regular friends doesn't help your career or your friendship at all. There is no reason to do it.

Anyone heard of JEMMA? I quite enjoy her unboxing videos. https://youtu.be/dJIiI3zRKRI

>>10164024
I like her she's cute

>>10164024
Sadly I heard her obnoxious voice before. She is too much of a special snowflake for me.

Hi gulls do you know any old school related YT lolitas?

>>10164024
honestly i hate unboxing videos. Just show us the dress details, I dont need to see you opening a gd box.

watching her for the first time. she is annoying as hell. so ~quirky ~ barf.

i would much rather just look at succinct dress reviews.

>>10164024
I can't stand her.

>>10164054
This.

>>10164024
>>10164042
lol why do i feel like this was a selfpost. gj your attempt to plug your yt failed

>>10164024
Cute but she reminds me too much of Jillian.

>>10164024
Girl wtf don’t plug yourself here lmao this is so obvious

>>10164096
>>10164120
why does this have to happen everytime someone unheard of is posted?

what is the point of having these threads if people are just gonna yell "selfpost" when someone offers content to a thread.

>inb4 someone accuses me of selfposting

>>10164134
only happens if the content is bad lol

>>10164089
Unboxing videos are literally the lowest hanging fruit of lolita content. And usually it's not even that helpful because the people will just lump things like Taobao or Closetchild in the title. It's completely useless if you're looking for reviews from specific brands, and also "reviews" of older and well known AP and Baby are rather pointless as well.

If you're a YouTuber and you want to make an unboxing can you just actually write out the Taobao brands in the title?

Also do some reviews of Meta, Maxicimam, Putumayo, ETC, something actually helpful than the hundredth something something Carnival. We already know AP and Baby quality. Also listing out the Taobao brands in the title will drastically help reduce dumb newbie questions of "is X Taobao brand reliable??"

>>10164024
Why do people like this type of thing? I clicked it hoping for a pleasant unboxing video with a review. Instead she’s weirdly hamming for the camera and there’s music and the focus is on her face and not what she’s unwrapping. What the fuck is the appeal of this?

>>10164142
The target audience is clearly not lolitas or even women probably. She's got 2k views and most of them are probably from thirsty men and weebs. If you want to be a successful YouTuber it doesn't make sense to only try to get popular in a niche hobby like lolita. Tyler and Lor are the most popular lolitas at the moment and they only have 20k and 69k subscribers respectively. Jemmas one unboxing video has over 2k views yet she's pretty much unknown to lolitas.

I don't like her but just explaining why she's doing that. Almost no one that actually owns AP or has real intentions to own AP is watching that video.

>>10164163
I totally screwed up the numbers. Jemma has over 100k.

I wish Kate would be more active on YouTube.

>>10169487
10/10 b8

I kinda liked the SS episode where she maybe went a LITTLE too prechy with "everyone can do this fashion SJW rant", however, I did like her point where without people there's no community. Kinda a fair point.

>>10164024
cute but if you are lurking here your makeup is way too harsh for your features, especially the matte dark lip sticks

If Lor doesn’t know how to properly trim her bangs or eyebrows I can’t help but have the nightmareish thought of what her pubes look like. My guess is they’re dyed bright green

>>10175628
how old is she?

>>10164024
Wow, she's like an autistic toddler. How is she famous?

>>10175628
Honestly everything about lor is like a nightmare at this point.

>>10175632
Mid-late 20s, looks like 40s. She always had unfortunate features for kawaii fashion but she clearly doesn’t take care of herself and has gained a lot of weight and it doesn’t help her already mature facial features.

>>10175634
>famous
lol really

>>10175632
she's 28/29. mentioned it in a video a while back

hellobattys house tour made me sad

>i love old houses so we had to have one
>except this houses amazing old mural is hideous ill paint over it
>one of the reasons i love old houses is because they have built in storage
>except i hate the storage in this house im ripping it out
>this house has beautiful original door fittings
>i cant open doors for some reason so im replacing all of them
>also every room is going to be a meme room
>anyway so thats why i really love this old house

>>10175709
Omg she is still alive and full of tackyness.
I agree, the house video was kind of a mess. I want to be happy for her happiness, but I really like the quirky layout of the house and feel bad about thinking about it being gone in such a way.
The "creepy bathroom" is totally designed by Meta or 3F. 3 doors opening into one another and basement + attic access? Yep, nobody will find those lolitas that outbid me on my dream dress.

>>10164024
As far as unboxings go, this one is pretty good. She kept it short and sweet, and she has an entertaining personality - a little pixielocks-ish at times, but imo as long as she's just bubbly like her then idc. I actually liked this video.

>>10175709
Oh god she is like that damn show Fixer Upper.
>We love old houses
>tears down a bunch of walls and throws up shiplap
>makes the old house look completely modern
Whhhhhhhhy??

>>10175762
>>10175709
I went to check out the video and wow, she’s being a massive bitch to people in the comment section. People saying the remodel will be expensive are met with “no shit” and other nasty remarks.

>>10175709
God, she is so fucking wide. How does she fit into lolita?

>>10175709
jesus she's fucking gross
her fat tits hanging out and her haggard ass face = not a good look

>>10175685
She has more subscribers than Tyler and Lor, so yeah

>>10164057
you probably won't find any unless you're friends with them, they keep to themselves

>>10145505
She's really not terrible. She's not Lor or Scarfing Scarves, but you know.

Also, there's not enough lolita content. At least she does more than fucking unboxing vids. She's a lolita content creator, not a lolita that happens to have a channel they update 4 times and forgets about.

>>10144232
God I hope women with big noses die.

>>10175812
YIKES

>>10176034
That is some top-quality bait.

>>10176036
Oof, what a cunt.

>>10176036
Wow. I was thinking the same thing while I watched the video. Is she or her husband independently wealthy? She never talks about working so I wonder where the money comes from.

>>10176050
Why? Some random asshole felt the need to insult her decision. They deserve to get fucking told.

>>10175812
Why do people feel the need to comment on YouTube videos like that though? Like they already don't like what's going on in the video, so why are they even watching? She has every right to respond that way to those dumb assholes.

>>10176216
Why rise the assholery levels in the world with such rude responses tho? She could be a "bigger" (kek) person and ignore them. But she took the time to be butthurt about it, making her open to further criticism, as if the video wasn't a trainwreck already.

>>10175709
Wow that’s minimum $50k renovations, especially with the fireplace, plumbing, and moving the oven & adding the proper ventilation

>>10176216
They weren’t being an asshole, just voicing their opinions, and batty came swinging at them being a massive cunt.

>>10176216
Mature adults don’t tell people making one time inoffensive comments to “fuck off” or tell people “no shit” for making observations.

>>10176216
The commenter was right though. What's the point of buying a vintage house if you're gonna make extreme modern changes? It's dumb.

>>10176216
Because she's the one attempting to be e-famous. Comments like the original one are definitely unnecessary and at best passive aggressive, but HB is the "public figure." She should know to handle herself better than an edgy middle schooler.

>>10176036
I actually quite like HB but holy shit she needs to chill

>>10176220
I get what you mean but if those people don't like it, why the fuck are they even wasting their time watching let alone taking more time to make shit comments. I'm a firm believer in the concept of "if someone is being shitty to you- then you get to be shitty back".

If you don't want someone to retaliate, then don't start shit with them.

>>10176224
Their comments were rude. Her comments were rude too. But when you make rude comments, you should expect to get into a confrontation with someone.

>>10176283
Do you have any idea what it's like to buy a house? That's probably what was available. Buying a fuckin house in the US is not an open marketplace where you get to pick n choose unless you're fuckin Kardashian rich.

>>10176306
So should the commenters but its youtube so I'm not sure what people were expecting.

>>10176216
>>10176478
Hi batty

>>10176478
Wow someones wking super hard there. Shes always been an absolute bitch.

>>10175628
Take a look at this

>>10175628
What the hell is Btb on about?!