/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Completely. I'm drifting away from cosplay because of the e-fame hungry people and the new conception of "cosplayer" as someone who is praised and idolized. That world isn't for me, and nowadays is kinda expected that if you do cosplay, you'll have a fanpage, have pro photoshoots and participate in contests, with all of the rivalry that comes with it. It's like everyone online is trying to be the next cosplay sensation and there's an asslicking culture I hate very much. At least it's like this in my country.

I'm resigning myself to do small cosplays from time to time with friends, and doing it just for personal fun. The wannabe idol panorama really took out the fun for me.

>>10121245
You sound crazy. Most lolitas don't even know what lolcow is. I've never looked there despite it being mentioned on cgl every now and then.

*sounded
I didn't finish reading your post before commenting lol
>>10121376

>>10121245
>I could feel myself turning into a crazy cunt from having that behavior so normalized.
Sometimes I get like this, whenever I have nothing going on in my life I spend a ton of time here on cgl and on lolcow and after a while I just start getting irrationally angry and feeling like shit all the time. I just had a big semester break from college and by the end I could start to feel myself obsessing and the need to argue with everyone and take everything really personally. Since classes started back up again I just flick through threads when I'm bored and ignore most of the opinions I don't agree with or discussions that I think are stupid.

I'm not sure if it impacts my enjoyment of lolita as a whole because I pretty much just see the fashion as my clothes and my love for the clothes doesn't waver, but I notice when I hyper focus on 4chan and shit it's only because I have nothing else to do with my time and it really just doesn't make me happy. It just exhausts me. I don't really participate in comms because there aren't really any around me, so I don't think it impacts how I see lolitas as a whole but surrounding oneself with so much toxic garbage wears me down after a while. I definitely think cgl and lolcow have their place but it's important to know when to take a step back and not get over invested in strangers opinions, cows and drama.

The unhinged, obsessed, mentally ill women you talk about on here are the ones who take these sites super seriously and don't know how to give it a rest, or they're just stuck in the cycle of over immersing themselves in it which is hard to get out of if you don't have better things to focus on.

>>10121245
Thb I'm not really part of any "community" online or anything. I sometimes look through IG at other lolitas that I follow. Sometimes I post my outfit if I'm particularly proud of it, or got something new that I love and want to share. Sometimes I come here to look at CoF stuff, or talk a bit about lolita topics. But I don't feel a part of anything. I don't even have any friends who are into lolita. I just think of it as clothing.

I'm part of the Lolita community and I cosplay.

I have to stay off cgl for a long while. I find when I do, I'm a lot more chill and get less anxious about how I look or how well I make things.

I don't really post my pictures anywhere but a friends-locked facebook. I used to post them on tumblr but I stopped tagging them outside personal tracking tags. I barely use insta.

At the end of the day, I'm just doing my thing and having a good time. That's all that matters. I'm not the prettiest lolita, not the best cosplayer. But I've made some good meaningful friendships and memories in these communities. It's what keeps me going.

Half these motherfuckers on here are armchair lolitas and gawkers anyway. The people who are involved either know the struggle or they're too full of salt or have some real mental issues they need to figure out first.

I think it has, and I didn't notice until I joined a comm irl
I realized how judgemental and mean I am
These girls think I'm an elitist cunt, I just thought I was normal
It's not even like I talk shit about our plethora of slovenly itas that don't even shave their moustaches
Just mentioning cgl period apparently made everyone think I'm going to post them to btb and shit
I didn't even mention an ita thread or anything, I just said that I had seen that burger print dress posted here awhile back

No, but I do see the stupidest shit posted on Rufflechat, and the ugliest idiots on the J-Fashion comms. It has made me question humanity and my faith in it.

>>10121245
>Former /d/ regular
>Would like to get into cosplay
>Come to /cgl/
>A million fucking different threads with slight variations of the same damn thing that could fit in one fucking general
>Lolitas
>This isn't even cosplay. It's a style
>/d/ comes back to haunt me
>A million fucking different threads with slight variations of the same damn thing that could fit in one fucking general
>Futas

And this is how an internet community shaped my opinion of lolitas. Though to be fair, /cgl/ is slow and you can have actual non-lolita threads. On /d/ you can't have robot, monster, rule 34 or whatever threads because the futafags are spamming new threads like a machinegun and harass any persistent thread that isn't to their liking by posting futas in it. This is why the /d/-/aco/ split happened and now the futafags are moving in to it as well.
Fucking lolitas, man.

>>10121445
I don't even come here to shit talk but when I got posted to the ita thread, I mentioned it to a comm mod and the reaction was "why are you on cgl"

>>10127847
Did you tell her that it's because you're an ita and needed to cry about being posted?

>>10127847
Was probably the mod.

>>10127862
I was in between houses and jobs so yea, it was pretty rough.

>>10127847
>why are you on cgl
lol somehow knows it's bad but doesn't got there because she isn't as bad as you. right sure

I've been posted to lolcow, and it's really made me step back from just about everything. I rarely interact or post things publically anymore like I used to before knowing, and just keep most of my thoughts and pictures to a locked-down facebook with people I actually know IRL.

You just kind of have to grit your teeth and bear it, because responding to it just adds fuel to their fire, even if they're wrong about something (and if it's like what they post about me or the people I know, they're wrong 99% of the time). Just kind of have to wait until they get bored of you, and move on to someone or something else.

>>10128066
The whole site is for mental fat girls who just make shit up about random people, or tinfoil together. Sometimes they are right, but most of the time they are just dead wrong!

>>10128082
I think most of the spite comes from a lack of anything better to do/focus on (like what's been described in other posts here) or jealousy, probably a mixture of the two.

Let's say the 10 things that were said about me there, one of them was a half-truth. But the other 9 things were completely wrong - so wrong, I have no idea how they even came to that conclusion.

>>10128066
I completely feel you, anon.
I wasn't posted to lolcow, but I was posted in a thread on here a few years ago and people pretty much just made shit up about me, really like disgusting stuff. I'm not even very well known online or in the con scene so I'm still not sure how it even happened. I'm just glad I'd been coming here long enough to know not to interact with the thread or add fuel to the fire, but fucking hell it really shook me up. I did a huge FB friends cull and stopped using public social media (insta, tumblr, twitter, only went back to insta) for months because I just felt weird and had started getting weird messages from people about it (clearly trying to cowtip).
I can suck it up and ignore it a lot better now if it every happens (rarely since).

On the OP topic, I'm really torn. I love a lot about cgl because when shit goes down in the community it's hard to talk about it without being painted a drama monger or being instantly involved. There are really cool threads about helping newbies to coord, but man if there isn't a constant toxic undercurrent. It's obviously not everyone, and hell it's probably just people baiting, but some people are so, so nasty on here sometimes, and it's a mindset I've definitely fallen into in the past. When in college I'd browse cgl a lot more often, and I actually felt so much more self conscious, despite thinking I was doing a good thing by browsing ita and nitpick threads to "learn". I'd agonize over everthing I wore so much that I sometimes would just start crying while getting dressed. I obviously had some other shit going on to fuel that serious of a reaction, but when I started blocking cgl from my laptop, I definitely noticed that I was better off.

I wish Rufflechat wasn't full of unemployed people with too much time on their hands and newbies, maybe that'd be a healthier balance? Probably not. Who knows.

I no longer post on CoF because of the 4chan threads. Not because my coords are shit and deserve criticism but because my comm had to deal with a Vendetta-chan that would posts us and then respond with hate comments pretending she is several people agreeing with each other. People in my comm would all realize that it was the same person with mental issues but dumb shits on this board keep falling for it.

>>10127895
It was

>>10128061
I think people in my comm definitely go on here but since I'm a newer member they probably thought it was suspicious. I think they had the right to feel that way. This place is known for housing shitheads.

>>10128113
Woah that’s crappy, what comm was this?

>>10128113
How do you know that though. They were anonymous.

>>10127753
funfact: the 'gl' of /cgl stands for gothic lolita. Imagine coming to a board with lolita in the name and then bitching because there are lolitas here.

Yes definitely. I don't post on forums or Facebook lolita groups, and stopped posting in livejournal when that was still a thing. There was a few people who had vendettas against me and others in my comm and would post us here all the time. Most of us barely post publicly anymore. When I moved comms, the vendettas got super nasty warning the new comm of rumors regarding us. None of them were true, there was just someone who kept stirring up shit in the old comm.

It definitely made me cynical. I could care less about the online community and rarely post anywhere even to contribute to a conversation. My comm is awesome and pretty chill on drama but fuck online personas, fuck the drama here.

>>10127753
>Former /d/ regular
stopped reading and kill yourself there'd

>>10128774
it doesn't sound like the online communities impacted your enjoyment of the hobby at large, though. just your participation in large groups

i don't understand people whose enjoyment of the hobby as an overarching interest is impacted by communities. like just don't participate in the community?

>>10128800
Honestly, it did impact the hobby a bit, but back when I was young and dumb. At a younger age it's much easier to connect the hobby and community, see them as inseparable and directly get affected by different things. As I've gotten older, I've learned that it's better and healthier desu to just enjoy the hobby and do it for myself.

Tl;dr youth and/or lack of maturity create a scenario where it is not easy to separate the two

Spending thousands of dollars of your own money on outfits to be ripped down for not being a model with a pro photoshoot whilst wearing your own clothes. Pissing and whining about the more efamous? For what? So entitled. Like toddlers wanting jelly & ice cream then having a tantrum because their ice cream touches the jelly. No one makes money off of this. Its a money sink like all hobbies. All the good blogs are gone. Well dressed lolitas gone or private. Its just children now with boring full sets or who dress up for cons.

I have a huge wardrobe but you won't see it anywhere same as anyone I used to follow. Enjoy what you've made.

>>10127847
>"why are you on cgl"
I'm really tempted to ask this of certain people in my comm sometimes, but only because they seem to be absolutely obsessed with cgl and being posted here. Every meetup they'll say several times
>omg watch out some hater might post you to cee gee el!!
because someone admits their reds don't match, pulls a silly face in a photo, says they like Meta's raschel lace or whatever. I think most of our comm at least lurks here but it's actually extremely rare for any of us to end up in the ita thread. On the rare occasion that one of us is posted it’s only after they posted on COF, and in that case there's no reason to think it was a comm member who posted them, it could just as easily be one of the thousands of people on COF.

Hearing them bring up their fear of cgl multiple times per meetup makes me want to get parental control of their devices to block 4chan entirely for a month or two because this kind of obsession with DA HAYTURZ isn’t healthy.

Funny thing though is that they’re very salty people themselves and I can easily imagine them posting some of the nastier comments I’ve seen floating around. Somehow it’s pure evil to point out a dress doesn’t fit but totally okay to call a complete newbie a “retarded cunt” because she wasn’t born with the knowledge on how to illegally circumvent customs charges. No John, you are the haters.

>>10128818
I don't post to CoF but I was still posted in the ita thread. I can see the concern. Theres a girl in my comm that gets posted here way more than me and she's really nice but she's super quiet at meets and I don't blame her. She's probably afraid to talk to people at this point. People on here fucking wreck her coords and say evil shit about her. I'd do that to if it was me I would be so weary of talking to anyone I wasn't close friends with.

>>10128113
Yeah I'm always surprised at how dumb gulls are. I think they WANT to believe bait, because they're so bored. They don't care it's about a real person.

>>10128818
Sounds like they're just joking around

It makes me paranoid and constantly think that my coords are bad and that I need to spend more money etc etc. On the other hand, without cgl I wouldn't have learned the rules so well and I wouldn't have improved at the pace that I did. For me, it's a mixed bag.

>>10128851
In that case it makes sense. But the people I'm talking about never get reposted here unless they post to COF, and even then they rarely end up in the ita thread. Usually they get one or two comments in the COF thread at worst. None of them have ever been the subject of a vendetta-chan, they just imagine they will be. I'm starting to suspect they post mean shit here themselves and are afraid of karma biting them in the ass.

>>10128855
I thought so at first but they bring up the seagull haters at least 4-5 times each meetup and often out of nowhere. Many newbies find out about cgl through them because they constantly shoehorn the subject into unrelated conversations as some kind of lolita boogeyman who'll rip your burando as soon as you let down your guard. They say cgl is full of no-life losers who only come here to obsessively hate on those they're jealous of, but seem to spend an awful lot of time lurking (or posting) here themselves. I just think they'd be so much happier if they stopped coming here for a while.

>>10128858
>without cgl I wouldn't have learned the rules so well
No offense but I don't understand this. I know people say everyone had an ita phase, but in my experience it's only people who think you can wear a normie shirt with lolita and no petticoat, or try to go full OTT with their cosplay wig instead of starting basic. Why do some people need cgl to tell them that looks bad? Don't they use their eyes? I also don't understand when people ask if they need an a-line or cupcake petticoat. Just look at some magazines or stock photos like pic related, and you see the shape. If you really try you can also see what style of blouse and shoes they wear with their main-piece.

>>10121245
My interest in the lolita community has deteriorated, but my love for the fashion is still well in tact. I treat them like two seperate entities.

they've impacted my enjoyment of most things, honestly. the largest commuter for most of my interests are full of either elitists, roleplayers (do not particioate in the hobby but act like experts) or toxic people that shit on everything positive out of some sort of jealousy or because it's cool or.. something.


My IRL experiences with these communities have been almost entirely positive, with good conversations and lots of helpful and supportive people.. but online everyone is a massive cunt hiding behind anonymity, whether it's treating eachother like shit because they don't have to say it to their faces, or pretending to be more experienced than everyone else because we can't prove that they're not.

>>10128886
imo facebook community can be really soft on concrit, especially if they’re afraid of getting called out for hurt feelings. Sometimes it takes harsh bluntness or even fear of being posted for people to really grasp what makes a coord more than just passable.

yeah. they've made me suspicious if most of the lolita "community" who claims to "NEVER COME HERE" are all racist, antisemitic, ableist, or all three.
>it's all three

>>10128876
>I'm starting to suspect they post mean shit here themselves and are afraid of karma biting them in the ass.
You're probably right. I always wonder about the types of assholes who come here just to pull others apart out fo boredom. Another girl in my comm actually repeated a dumb cgl joke to me once about a dress I was wearing and I have always been suspect of her since then.

I grew up with a grandmother who was all about "tough love" which reminds me of all the gulls who say you can't have "thin skin" to be in the fashion. She was also actually anorexic and tried to push her eating disorder on me. Makes me sad to know there are loads of young women just like her who come here to fucking roleplay as Joan Rivers of lolita to shit on someone's coord like they're doing a piece for OK magazine or some shit.

>>10128110
AYRT - I really love /cgl/ as it's the only active lolita forum who are usually the first to discuss/find out new releases + where we can talk honestly and openly about stuff, but some people just take it way too far. The non-anonymous groups like Rufflechat just talk about the same 5 topics ad nauseam, lolita updates used to be flooded taobao releases which I don't care about, lolita humor is just old stolen memes.

>>10128886
>Why do some people need cgl to tell them that looks bad?
well part of the problem is that it is subjective anyway. But also, some people were brought up to believe that you can only learn through ridicule.

>>10128935
But there has to be some kind of middle ground between asspats and "you look like shit try again".

However, very few gulls want to find this middle ground because this is 4chans and "muh board culture" and gulls literally think that coming her is their excuse to be a horrid piece of shit to everyone who wears the fashion because well, this place is known for housing shitheads.

>>10128950
>usually the first to discuss/find out new releases + where we can talk honestly and openly about stuff
I don't know why this is your resource for new releases but I find out about new releases from the actual brands because I follow them on Twitter. I know about new dresses before anyone on cgl mentions them usually.

And if I actually cared enough to nitpick new releases, I could do that on twitter as well? I don't because unlike most gulls, I don't care to rip apart every new AP release and call things "taobao" because that's the cool new meme.

>>10128955
Why are you here then?

>>10128538
Same sentence structure and misspellings

>>10128957
To give people shit for nitpicking everything from new releases to actual people.

>>10128960
You can't know for sure, though. People on here thought someone was HWC for the longest time because they didn't capitalize their I's. We don't even know if that was correct or not.
That's a terrible way to decide that you know who someone is. I've seen numerous anons state that they change how they type and sentence structure to further remain anonymous.

It's worthless to try and say who is posting here. Everyone is anon. You don't know shit.

>>10128955
You missed the "discuss" part. First releases ARE posted on twitter, or I just check the actual brand's website, but cgl is usually the place that first posts and discusses them. It's fun for me to talk about a new release in a group setting where we can all get excited. Sorry it's not fun for you anymore.

I think it's creepy to hate someone you don't know or to create lies about people. The latter, even if you do know them. I see a lot of people who seem to vehemently hate other lolitas for maybe one bad opinion they had, or just because they're more internet famous than them. I also hate that it's often difficult to form legitimate discussions here.
I feel like lolcow or cgl is like politics, some people straight up can't handle it, because they lack emotional maturity. Those are the people who become angry after reading a dumb post on here, or who hate other lolitas with a passion. I had a "vendetta" when I was like, 15 or something, against a girl I was totally jealous of because I was too young to understand she was just a normal girl who was popular online. But now I'm 22 and even if I think someone posted something stupid, I don't really care or think twice about it. I think most adults lack emotional maturity, but I also think there are a lot of underaged posters here.
I think it's good to take a break from these sites, and it's especially good to not believe anything you read on here. I often see people on here quote other anons posts as "fact" when in an argument. It's really sad that some people lack common sense. Just because something reaffirms your opinions doesn't mean it's true.

>>10128964
I didn't miss the discuss part at all. Did you not see me mention how people screech "taobao" for every new AP release?
Or is that what you come here to do.

>>10128935
But why do you need concrit? Just look at how your favourite brands style their models and do that. Learning which colours suit your skin tone or how to measure yourself correctly is not something you learn on cgl.

If nothing else, being involved in my lolita community made me socially exhausted. Many girls in my comm are nice but some are incredibly immature and tiring to deal with, so I mostly just immerse myself in the fashion and subculture with a few good lolita friends and on my own.

I'm curious to know how or why people let their perception of the community tarnish their enjoyment of a fashion style. With cosplay I can kind of understand why that could happen, since cosplays are usually worn to cons so interacting with other cosplayers is inevitable, but how does thinking the lolita, jfash, or altfash community is snobbish/elitist/toxic etc. affect someone so badly that they can't wear a style of clothing anymore?

>>10128935
1. harsh concrit=/=better concrit
2. I know everyone on here calls it "sugarcoating" but being told what you are doing right is just as important as being told what you're doing wrong
3. Being posted in the ita thread doesn't help people improve. Some itas don't improve, being posted in the ita thread doesn't change that. Some people lack awareness, justify it with "it's just my style!" or quit before they can improve. Improvement doesn't really come with concrit. A little bit, sure. but it mostly comes with time, exposure to the fashion, research and a willingness to point out your own faults. These are all things that come with time. Being overly harsh towards someone only makes them unhappy or want to quit. Or they just will believe you're being unfair to them.
>>10128886
As a former ita, a lot of it comes with an unwillingness to spend the money needed to create a good coordinate, a lack of research into the fashion, impatience (grabbing some ugly dress that will come in a week and calling it lolita), and not understanding colour balancing and what works well on specific body types. The last two things are the most understandable and hardest to fix, as that's something that's honestly a bit hard to learn,especially when you opt for prints instead of just solids.
Oh, I forgot, but there's also that desire to be "experimental" and failing. I see a lot of lolitas who want to be the most unique lolita possible and miss the mark. This mostly happens when new lolitas try too hard to experiment, but it can happen to seasoned lolitas too.

>>10128995
>being told what you are doing right is just as important as being told what you're doing wrong
This is what most gulls don't get or they ignore it because it's just so much more fun to be mean to someone anonymously instead.

>>10128989
I think people like that only wear lolita/jfash/altfash in a social context like at meetups and conventions, and to post photos online. So if they don’t enjoy the social aspect anymore there’s no reason or opportunity for them to wear the clothes and they quit. People who can get enjoyment from wearing the fashion by themselves would most likely just go lonelita in that scenario.

Tell me something, cgl. Why would you like itas to improve?

>>10129029
Most itas are embarrassing to the community as a whole and I'd like better representation for the fashion, but also I get second hand embarrassment from them and want them to improve quickly so they don't look back with absolute shame some day and wonder why nobody told them they looked like shit

>>10129031
>they don't look back with absolute shame some day and wonder why nobody told them they looked like shit
That isn't happening though. You sound like you're just talking about your own personal fear.

>>10129035
It does happen, quite frequently too. You see people posting about their ita phases and how they wished they would have listened to crit. Are you just new to lolita?

>>10128810
I wish there was a way to see the old lolitas post again

>>10128963
That's how shitty rumors and drama gets started. It nearly destroyed my comm.
Don't try to guess who's on her. Just don't.

>>10128978
>It's fun for me to talk about a new release in a group setting where we can all get excite
yeah that definitely meant "screeching taobao at new AP release", anon
also you know more than just AP exists, right. eyeroll.

>>10128997
I want to compliment people more, but everyone always assumes I’m either the person themselves, a white knight, or newfag.
I suppose a coord with no comments whatsoever can be considered a compliment?

>>10128538
>>10128963
Usually you can tell by two things
>Same spelling and sentence structure
>The targets are people she hates or their friends
>The timestamps show that that all of the posts are made within a small time frame. The odds of more than five people hating on a non e-famous girl in our comm that no one has issue with besides one is minimal. This makes it easy for the comm to spot but less s for outsiders
>They add positive things about themselves or defend themselves

And in my case the person was completely insane so it was all of this x11. I can't even begin to describe all that was wrong with her. Her posts were extremely vile and she'd always present her targets of victimizing her sexually/sadistically. She'd even do this weird role-play were she'd pretend she was a bully targeting her and gloating about it which she always made really sexual.

>>10129043
No, I am the anon who got posted to the ita thread many years ago and I don't look back and think "gee I'm so glad some cunt on cgl said I was hideous" just like I don't look back on being in kindergarten and being told the same insults thinking, "wow that really helped me develop as a person". Instead I laugh from afar on social media because those people grew up and their lives suck now. It's like they got what was coming to them. If only I could say the same for the bitches on cgl.

I also mentioned another girl in my comm who gets posted here often.
>>10128851
Shes really quiet at meets because now talking to new people puts her on edge due to stupid assholes on cgl going above and beyond to shit on her.
This isn't just coming from me. I have seen the posts you're talking about but they are either full of shit and pressing the idea that this place is the get out of jail free card to shit on people because "look it worked for me" or they were brought up by parents who think "tough love" is a good form of discipline. But obviously it has just created a generation of assholes who have the internet at their disposal.

>>10129087
Sorry you got posted. Not everyone is hideous though.

>>10129083
>>Same spelling and sentence structure
Already pointed out that this is a terrible way to tell as gulls have stated that they change their sentence structure on purpose.
>>The targets are people she hates or their friends
How do you know it's not just someone being an asshole? Lots of people who aren't lolita are here to make dumb comments.
>>The timestamps show that that all of the posts are made within a small time frame. The odds of more than five people hating on a non e-famous girl in our comm that no one has issue with besides one is minimal. This makes it easy for the comm to spot but less s for outsiders
Honestly I don't come here to shit on people but I post replies back to back in the same thread cause I'm on mobile and it's a pain in the ass to reply to more than one post at a time on mobile unless you play the jump around game with the reply box.
>>They add positive things about themselves or defend themselves
I only ever see negative comments from gulls. It's rare to ever see someone actually saying something nice. But if someone referenced themselves to say they were better than sure. You might know who that is as long as someone isn't pretending to be them.

But all in all, you can't know for sure unless you have their fucking ip address.
You're making educated guesses but you are still just guessing. You could be very likely wrong.

I’m a lolita and I’m pretty active in male dominated communities. my boyfriend keeps telling me to post my coords (just normal shots) on my social media more so I can get thirsty guys to buy me stuff but i don’t really want to do that

>>10129097
Him wanting you to do that is a massive red flag anon...

>>10129097
That’s incredibly fucked up. Your boyfriend might be an actual cuck

>>10129099
how? He doesn’t want me to become a Patreon whore, but he thinks I’m cute enough that just by posting selfies and pictures of my outfits random guys will dote on me

>>10129103
He sees you as a commodity and something to profit from. Run.

>>10129104
I don’t think getting randoms to buy me anime clothes would profit him

>>10129107
You're really naive. I feel bad for you.

>>10129107
Listen if you’re fine with it then it’s great for both of you. Just don’t be surprised when he asks you to fuck other guys while he watches.

>>10129108
if I have a bf I shouldn’t post online anymore? ://

>>10129111
That's not what anyone said, you know it, and pretending to be stupid does you no favors. You being in denial hurts nobody but you.

>>10129083
Plus some people are stupid enough to post something on here and then post the same thing on their personal FB a little while later. That’s how I found out this girl in my comm is super salty about Asian girls getting more likes than her on COF. She posted in the feels thread about short Asian lolitas being overrated, inelegant and lacking curves unlike herself, tacked on a very specific complaint about her job, then posted the exact same job complaint to FB with the same wording and everything like 15 mins later. Sure I don’t have her IP address so I can’t prove 100% it’s her (and don’t care to) but you don’t need to be Sherlock Holmes to figure out it’s most likely the same person. Especially because she never shuts up about her height and boobs irl.

>>10129113
I don’t think he’s a cuck thats a lot of assumptions to make did you have a cuck bf before or something?

>>10129111
Don’t listen to the jelly shrews anon, pimping you out online means he loves you and respects you as a person!

One doesn't neet to be ita to get insulted by comm. Otherwise people get shit for:

- being poor
- being rich (spoiled brat/nasty whore who's got brand money from bf or husband/ just basic rich bitch who know what she does for money)
- being fat
- being too skinny/having cgl diagnosed eating disorder
- having cgl diagnosed mental disorder
- having unfortunate face
- being black or darker skin tone
- being too old
- being a teen who's got their clothes from parents
- making coords that are too basic/full sets
- rarely wearing lolita

Default option is "being too sensitive" when nothing in the above is applicable. Feel free to contribute to the list.

>>10129117
How is he pimping me out? He’s never forced me to do anything

>>10129029
I want to help girls realize their potential in this fashion and look their best, or at least better. I don't do this in the ita thread though, but in the CoF thread, coord help thread, or stupid question thread, if the latter two exist, and I do the same off anon for newbies in my community.

>>10129089
>Sorry you got posted
I love how you're resorting to this kind of meme in a thread about how doing that causes people to give up on the fashion.

>>10129094
The odds of someone impersonating her were way too low. They'd have to study well how she writes and what her deal was with every person she targeted and what she was telling people what her deal was. Then they'd have to post vile things about innocent people for no good reason. And they'd have to role-play as her anonymously role-playing. They'd need to be more insane than she is and that is a lot of insanity.

>>10129075
I've left compliments for coords in the past and never got these accusations. Not to say that you're lying, but it IS actually possible to leave positive comments, and if someone accuses you of being the person you're complimenting or anything else, just don't engage them.

>>10129116
Do you know what site you're on? You don't need to have had a cuck bf to know how they function.

>>10129029
I don't post in the ita thread, but I often give people concrit when I can. When I was a teenager I was very ita, and I never could figure out why I never felt good about the clothing I wore, I always felt like something was off. I also got made fun of behind my back by my local community.
I wouldn't say that I desperately want them to improve. I think most people who shit on itas don't care if they improve or not. It's like those people who bully fat people and justify it by saying "I'm just trying to help motivate them to get skinny!" despite studies showing that bullying people only makes the problem worse in most cases. I just want them to improve a bit so they won't get bullied and so they can feel better in the outfits they wear.I try to give crit whenever anybody asks.

>>10129130
You’re absolutely right anon.
I won’t let negative comments stop me from saying what I think anymore!

>>10129097
My bf is like this. Contrary to what other anons are saying, he isn't into cuckold fantasies. But he used to catfish for free shit all the time so probably not the best example. He doesn't get anything from me getting plushies and accessories from an Amazon wishlist though, so I don't think of it as him using me for personal gain. I'm just posting regular coords but outside of egl tags.

>>10129129
>Then they'd have to post vile things about innocent people for no good reason.
That's extremely common on this site. That's why this thread is here.

I'm not saying this didn't happen but I'm telling you you're not a detective for a reason.

>>10129141
>But he used to catfish for free shit all the time so probably not the best example.
Yea he sounds like a real winner.

>>10129147
He is!
I love him to death and he's really nice. He just knows that the average person is retarded and capitalizes from it. It's how he makes six figures. We've been dating for 5 years now and he's the best partner I've had.

>>10129126
Nta but how can a dumb meme make people quit a fashion? When I get annoyed with seagull antics I stop lurking for a while, I don’t get rid of my wardrobe.

>>10129150
god why do straights always want to talk about their partner. it's like their only personality trait.
this whole thing is barely even even related to the thread, no one cares about your personal drama

>>10129172
>why do straights always want to talk about their partner
>implying "the gays" don't do the same
Come on anon, you know better than this.

>>10129172
Sorry you don't get posted. Someday you'll find someone who loves you enough to not be ashamed of having you as their partner.

>>10129029
I don't. I think it's fine as long as they're happy and comfortable wearing lolita.

>>10129136
What did you do wrong as a teenager? What did you have to improve? For me the only thing that improved my comments was buying more besides main-pieces

>>10129172
I'm sure anon makes mostly non-bf related posts. This one just happened to be related (admittedly loosely) to the topic. Most people are happy with their partners and want to talk about what makes them happy. Sorry if you've never felt happy with the people you date. Maybe you should try cocks instead? May make you realize what you're missing out on.

>>10129147
Capitalism did this to people. Doing shameful things as long as you get some money for it is winning now.

>>10129182
>>10129175
Nice reach but my girlfriend and I are doing well.

>>10129150
>He just knows that the average person is retarded and capitalizes from it
Do you imply the same logic to other criminal activity? Assault? Politics?

>>10129150
>He just knows that the average person is retarded and capitalizes from it
Do you apply the same logic to other criminal activity? Sexual assault? Politics?

>>10129188
To bring this back on topic. AP knows lolitas are retarded and capitalizes from it

>>10129187
>>10129188
Suckering people into willingly giving their money isn't illegal. It's very foundation of capitalism. Sorry, Anon.

>>10129181
I didn't colour balance well like at all. Didn't even think about it. I bought into a lot of bad advice. I got wigs from gothic lolita wigs, which were super thin and party grade, and wore them even though I knew they looked bad. Also didn't really know what good quality was, so I bought a lot of bad stuff on Etsy.
Also I bought a couple replicas because it was during a time where people didn't admit they were a shitty practice. I started buying more nice quality pieces, identifying what I enjoy specifically about other peoples coordinates, and learning about colour balance. I think the main thing was just that I read a lot of guides that came by me.

>>10129184
>my boyfriend wants me to use my body to get free stuff :)
> my boyfriend exploits others and we’re sooooo rich now!
I’m telling myself it’s just people who post on here who are like this, and not the majority. For my own sake.

>>10129190
You can't tell right from wrong on your own? Who cares if it's illegal? The law is behind on cyber crime.

>>10129192
Most people who are successful in life get their success from stepping over the heads of others. It isn't always obvious, but you seriously have lower chances of progressing meaningfully in life without inconveniencing, using, or throwing others under the bus. That's just how life is. The sooner you learn this, the better. Don't wait until your 30's to learn this important life lesson, you'll regret it.

>>10129190
I know scamming is the foundation of capitalism, but I wouldn't boast about a bf who does it. My country is rich because of slavery, does that mean I should be proud to own a slave?

>>10129198
Actually most people make a decent living with normal jobs that don't require you to step on others. Do you think everyone is desperately trying to be part of the 1% and do anything to get there?

>>10129197
Morality is a subjective social construct that changes based on the time, setting, and cultural influences. What's "wrong" to you isn't inherently wrong. 100 years ago it'd be morally acceptable and even encouraged by many cultures to straight up groom an 8 year old for marriage.

You're appealing to emotion, which isn't a valid criticism. Sorry, Anon. You explicitly used the word "criminal" which implies illegal activity. Objectively, the act of using others for personal gain is not illegal on its own. Therefore, your post is founded on fallacious claims.

To answer your question - no, I don't find anything wrong with this. I'm not "using my body" for free stuff (implication of sex work, nice job wording it this way btw). I'm posting what I normally would post on instagram, what I've always posted before meeting my bf, but just opening the door for beta orbiters to look at my pictures as well with a larger umbrella of tags for them to find me. I don't particularly try to entice their attention, it just comes to me, and once that happens they're pretty quick to just throw gifts my way without even having to provoke them.

You may want to go back to the drawing board and re-word your argument.

>>10129203
>emotions aren't valid
Shouldn't have been born human then

>>10129202
>Decent living
There's where your mistake is. My bf doesn't make a "decent living," he makes a luxurious living. If he played it safe and didn't step on others, he'd probably be in the same deadbeat position as his previous co-workers (all of which are people he's thrown under the bus or used as stepping stools). They're the ones getting the "decent living" salaries still despite being in their 50's and 60's. Meanwhile he's in his 20's and earning twice what they do despite them being in the company before he was even born.

>>10129203
We aren't talking about you, we're talking about a male catfishing and another male wanting his girlfriend to post pictures for free stuff

>>10129204
Appeal to emotion isn't valid. Nice job twisting my words though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion

And here's your current attempt at a rebuttal:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man


Take a class in logical reasoning sometime. It may help.

>>10129205
Your mistake is that you think everyone wants that. Everyone wants to take advantage of others to become rich. Accrual most people don't want to step on others so they're fine with their decent living.

>>10129207
Girl I'm not in debate class, I'm arguing on 4channel with the girlfriend of a shameless boy who scams people legally

>>10129205

>>10129205
so you were already aware your bf is a massive asshole but you're arguing with people who don't like him?

>>10129202
>Do you think everyone is desperately trying to be part of the 1% and do anything to get there?
Yes, that's obviously what she thinks. People who don't throw others under the bus are just not trying hard enough to succeed in life.

>>10129206
He's not getting free stuff from me posting pics. I am. Him catfishing to get free stuff was mostly MMO stuff as a teen, and eventually video games in his early 20's. I'm okay with this - he never promised anything in return or engaged in sexual acts. He lied a lot and told them whatever they wanted to hear, but all of them were dudes who assumed they were owed or entitled to something for opening their wallets. I see it as a lesson well taught for them. Don't open your wallet for people because they're alluring - you'll get burned hard most of the time. They're lucky it was just games and virtual gear. Not an attempt to justify his catfishing, just the way I view it. Even if he catfished cars I'd just comment on the idiocy of those he hooked for them.

>>10129209
But these people weren't the subject of the argument. Not my mistake as my argument explicitly references SUCCESSFUL people. Not average deadbeats. If you're going to switch the subject of the argument midway then the prerequisites for the argument are contextually changed as well. The average person doesn't take advantage of others like this, but then their chances of success are dramatically lower (still possible, but lowered).

>>10129220
I guess I just don't think people with a decent living are unsuccessful

>>10129220
Do people who are happy with their relationships and choices typically write this much about what they’ve done for complete strangers?

>>10129220
>Him catfishing to get free stuff was mostly MMO stuff as a teen, and eventually video games in his early 20's.
>I'm okay with this
you're both trash. wow.

>>10129219
This is generally true. Most people want to be rich but don't know how to get there. Ask anyone if they'd rather have more money or keep the money they currently have and you'll almost unanimously get "hell yea I wish I had more money" kinds of responses. However most people don't realize that the answer to more money isn't "I wish I won the lottery" or "I wish I was smart enough to invest into stocks." It's "I need realize who has the most influence and connections within my workplace, and find out how to use them to get what I want."

Incidentally, this is most likely where the wage gap comes from - most women are brainwashed to be overly empathetic while men are taught that it's a dog-eat-dog world where the only winner is the one who can get away with outplaying the competition. You'll be the one too scared to ask for a raise while the ones who understand how the world works will be crediting themselves for the work YOU did and using it in their salary negotiations.

>>10129203
>Morality is a subjective social construct that changes based on the time, setting, and cultural influences. What's "wrong" to you isn't inherently wrong. 100 years ago it'd be morally acceptable and even encouraged by many cultures to straight up groom an 8 year old for marriage.
I always see this kind of opinion on other boards posted by males.
The fact that we don't shit like that anymore means that we progresses a society. Pedophilia is wrong because it fucks people up and history has proven that. That's why we don't do it anymore.

>>10129150
>He just knows that the average person is retarded and capitalizes from it. It's how he makes six figures.
Damn. You two assholes are made for each other.
You're both terrible human beings though. Anyone who has their head up their ass like this is conceited and shitty.

>>10129227
You're retarded. Of course most people want to be rich, but they do not want to do what it takes to get there. That means they rather stay with the job they have. If you tell someone "you can become rich, all you have to do is scam others or throw your colleagues under the bus" most people don't react with "great! Let's start!"

>>10129205
>My bf doesn't make a "decent living," he makes a luxurious living. If he played it safe and didn't step on others,
this sounds like an elaborate troll at this point.

>>10129203
And by your logic what her boyfriend does is immoral, that's why the majority doesn't do it

>>10129227
In my county the wage gap is biggest in the music industry and technology. Not the most emphatic industries.

>>10129234
It’s incredibly unlikely anon’s bf actually makes a decent living if his claim to fame is pretending to be a girl on world of Warcraft or whatever the fuck.
Anon’s just getting a big time rush now that her novella is ruffling feathers

>>10129242
You forgot he also stepped on the heads of his 50 year old colleagues, or was that someone else's bf

>>10129235
I think it's implied that if not everyone wants to do what it takes to get ahead, ie shitting on others, then only those who have the guts to shit on people will get ahead.

Which is basically what has happened in the US as Trump is our president.

>>10129245
Stepping on the heads of 50 year olds isn't hard.
>50 year old co-worker types 4 words per minute and doesn't understand how to attach files to emails
>Bring your productivity compared to theirs up to your boss
>???
>Profit!

Boomers are the easiest to throw under the bus.

>>10129242
>>10129245
don't forget that he makes >>10129150 six figures!

>>10129249
>Boomers are the easiest to throw under the bus.
god, I don't know what board you came from but it sounds like /ck/ and let me guess, you also don't tip.

>>10129249
That's not stepping on others idiot, that's doing your job. Doing your job better than others is how normal, decent people get promoted.

>>10129249
This isn’t even throwing anyone under the bus. It’s literally just being decent at your job. Getting a promotion doesn’t make you an edgy cut throat genius.

>>10129256
Actually it's doing the boss' job as well. How was he not aware of how productive his own employees were?

>itt: bitter poorfags, boyfriendless hags, and victim complex lesbians

>>10129246
>Which is basically what has happened in the US as Trump is our president.

This right here is the key point being made. Politics in general, actually, is the prime example of this. Trump is shit and so is Hillary. You think Hillary would have done half the things she manipulated the public into believing if she got into office? The woman who not even a decade before was dead set on gay marriage being absolutely reprehensible (back when it was politically advantageous to hold this view, that is). Politics is all about stepping on as many people as you can, while keeping the facade of being an outstanding citizen up for the public. It's all about telling the masses what they want to hear and trusting in you until you get the position you want, and then doing what benefits you the most. ie. keeping promises made to those who bribe er, I mean, lobby for you!

Everyone loves talking about the Russian email hacking while deflecting the fact that the contents of those emails gave clear visibility to the disgusting underbelly that is the political system. Bernie was thrown under the bus fuckin hard by his own peers and nobody bats an eye.

Don't try to change the rules of the game. Play by those rules.

>>10129260
Most people don't take the extra step to point out the faults of others or set others up for failure for personal gain. The ones that do will progress, the ones that don't most likely won't get noticed. The squeaky wheel gets the oil. Stay quiet about how much you outperform your peers and it'll most likely go unnoticed for a while. Bring it to the attention of those in a position to progress your career and you'll move up the ladder fast.

>>10121376
I actually liked the idea of the farm, but it's so unpopular it's useless. The drama threads are very active while the jfashion threads are dead (at least when I used to go there)

>>10121376
I wish the boards besides the drama boards were more active. The site would be so much better if that was the case.

>>10129264
Most companies calculate productivity level of their employees and know exactly how much money an individual should make them, so normally you don't need to point it out to your boss

>>10129265
The most embarrassing thing about lolcow is how obsessed some anons get about certain people. I can understand it to a certain extent but going so far to stalk everyone of a youtubers live-streams or donating to their patreon just to make fun of the content is way too far.

How do I get a gf like scammer anon? She's a bit dramatic but knows her shit.

>>10129272
Lol are you retarded? no they don’t, doing that shit would be expensive as fuck, they would have the employees report back themselves/on other employees. No company would hire someone to constantly supervise employees 24/7 unless it’s unskilled labor. There are a lot of shitty workplaces out there, some of them are super successful too. Look at Amazon. Your coworkers and your boss will throw you under the bus

Also nayrt but my boyfriend deserved a promotion for ages and was doing work way above his position. He never got a promotion and his boss hired someone else instead for the position above him, so my bf quit and got a new job. Now his old boss keeps trying to hire him back and re-offering him the promotion because his replacements were all horrible and/or quit.

>>10129272
Wrong, until you get to the higher levels of upper management. Most companies are run by absolute bozos who got into their positions by (surprise surprise) taking advantage of others via family connections or outplaying their peers. They'll run using analytics on a macro scale without really looking too deeply on the micro (the individual workers) unless they're super deadbeat or flat out making mistakes. I don't know if you've worked many professional jobs, but you'll almost certainly have dead weights in the office who aren't doing poor enough to stand out negatively nor good enough to stand out positively. Doing work above their standards will definitely get you recognized, but actively SHOWING those in power positions that you're better will go a long way fast. The 50 year old is one example, but there are also the youngins who are too shy to take credit for their own work and give you an opportunity to suck in the rewards for what they did. If they aren't going to make themselves known for it, may as well make yourself known for it. If they aren't going to speak up to feeling underpaid, that's more money for you to negotiate for your bonuses. I've seen GOOD workers get laid off in company downsizes while shit workers stay simply because they knew to make friends with the right people and say the right things to get a target off their backs. t's a multilayered puzzle, and the sooner you learn to work with the pieces you have the faster you can solve it.

>>10129281
samefag but shouldn’t have said “no company” SOME companies will give adequate promotions/compensation without you fighting for it, but the majority won’t.

>>10129272
Companies aren't looking to give their employees free money. If you don't come out and say "I make do more than my boomer co-worker" they're going to pay you the same rate as your co-worker. How old are you?

>>10128886
I'll say ita threads don't help. They're just there for folks who are bored and the threads spawn too often to really have any good content. It's just the newest post on the lolita hashtag, it's just newbie shitting.
I will say that the ability to image dump on this board is super helpful. The help threads and collage threads are super helpful. Being able to see a lot of images of a specific style you might want to try is what's very useful to a newbie and seeing the pieces that make up a coord is what really helped me. I have a love hate relationship with this site. On one hand some people on here are absolute goblins on the other hand I've gotten some very good input and advice for projects I want to work on from helpful anons.

>>10129264
People change the rules of the game all the time. Russia is actually a good example of change.

>>10129281
>doing that shit would be expensive as fuck
Nayrt but no it isn't. It's literally one of the first things I learned how to do in a management class at community college that I never finished. It's quite essential information if you want to run a business. How else would you know how many people you need to hire to get the work done?

>>10129302
Calculating the productivity level you NEED and hiring someone to manage overall productivity is one thing but constantly monitoring every single employee every second they’re at work to make sure they’re doing their work and that you’re paying them properly would be very expensive

>>10129290
It's sad the capsule closet threads have actually helped me improve but the ita threads are 100x more active.

>>10129307
Capsule closet threads require effort is the thing.
Having said that I feel if this board had more lolitas who hadn’t been scared away by the reputation, we’d get a lot more of threads like that instead of the endless ita threads and yt drama threads

>>10129310
I mean I made capsule wardrobes and people gave useful concrit on that, but yeah

>>10129306
>constantly monitoring every single employee every second they’re at work to make sure they’re doing their work and that you’re paying them properly would be very expensive
that's why you just use trackers and applications instead. There's no person where I work that is in charge of tracking productivity - we use a site that does it for us and then every 3-6 months they review the numbers and if someone doesn't cut it, ie, aren't even doing their job, they get let go.

>>10129227
>However most people don't realize that the answer to more money isn't "I wish I won the lottery" or "I wish I was smart enough to invest into stocks." It's "I need realize who has the most influence and connections within my workplace, and find out how to use them to get what I want."

anon most people DO realize this, but there's usually a lot of effort, responsibility, sucking up, and investment that goes into climbing a ladder at work, or in changing jobs for a salary increase. most people would like to keep or enhance their current lifestyle while also having more disposable income. for many people, this equates to less work, if they want to continue to work at all.

>>10129205
Roleplaying is fun. But it's best to do it on the appropriate board.

>>10129252
Is he only four?

>>10129205
this is going off topic. Please for the love of god mods clean this up

>>10128962
just so long as you accept that other people might not feel the same way and give you shit for it. your opinion is not the only one in the world, in spite of what you seem to think from your previous posts.

>>10128955
>assuming everyone does social media the same way you do
you sound inexperienced and young.

>>10128987
>it's almost like other people don't have different opinions or something

>>10129126
if they're that fucking sensitive then they shouldn't be wearing a fashion that is sure to attract attention until they work on their self confidence first.

>>10129198
>>10129203
>>10129205
>>10129220
>>10129227
Are you Chinese by any chance? It would explain quite a bit about your way of thinking.

I chose to become a lonelita because of /cgl/. Being part of a com seems exhausting.

This thread started off all right but damn did it get hella ironic fast.

>>10129227
>most women are brainwashed to be overly empathetic
Well, not only that but women who act as go-getting as men tend to be treated worse. I guess the only way to win is to marry a rich old man and wait for him to die.

>>10127753
Was /d/ickgirls ever not a cesspool tho, anon?

>>10129449
before futa took over it was pretty neat

>>10129310
This t b h. Ita threads don't do anything other than ruining the reputation of cgl and scaring people away. And "but it helped me!!" anons are being hypocrite as fuck. If it was about helping they'd post to selfpost thereads instead of shitting on itas who probably don't even come here.

>>10129461
Anon, I don’t know how new you are, but this place was so deeply infested with drama that a whole other website had to be built to contain the threads about specific people. cgl will never be separated from its reputation, which was long since ruined. Nor should it be

>>10129435
the racists jump out

>>10129464
I'm not new but I don't think situation is that hopeless. Only if people'd stop being such salty cunts. Idk about others but I'll keep calling it out when I see unnecessary saltiness, idc about "hey it's 4chan what do you expect" attitude

>>10129487
>People stop being salty cunts in the place designated and designed to be salty cunts

Yeah you’re totally not new.

>>10129496
>designated and designed
Sorry but you are the one who sounds new. This place is pretty tame except ita threads and occasional bursts in cof thread but go off keep playing being an edgy salty gull

>>10129249
50 year olds are Gen Xers and most of them probably type faster than Millennials because they didn't grow up with autocomplete and predictive text. Also what everybody else said. Doing your job is.... literally your fucking job.

>>10129503
>No u

Sure Jan

>>10129507

>>10129504

You would be surprised. My 45 year old coworker did not know how to type despite being through not one, but two grad schools. It floored me. His hunt and peck was painful to watch.

Meanwhile, my boomer literal grandmother coworker was a beast who figured her way around tech and was a really great coworker.

Age doesn't determine how well you do your job, it's how much you decided you want to work at it and how smart you are about it.

>>10129466
>they're not wrong tho...

I remember seeing a comment on here saying it was cringey to wear lolita to college classes, and it was a weirdly large factor in me not wearing lolita casually anymore. But now whenever I come on here I start feeling bad for being a "conlita" or whatever.

>>10129487
>if only people would buckle down and behave the way that I think they should behave because i have obvious control issues
reminder that the only behavior that you can control is your own, and that trying to control how others experience /cgl is an exercise in futility.

>>10129464
Why are you in this thread if you feel that way

>>10129540
I’m sorry, I didn’t know I wasn’t allowed to post uwu. Pweeze forgive uwu

>>10129524
Awhile back I replied threads into oblivion and a few months went by I noticed the posts kind of lightened up a little because anons knew the threads would get derailed to the point of deletion unless they didn't shit on everyone for no reason.
So you're wrong. Its possible to morph people into better beings.

You're just edgy and cynical

>>10129543
You sound disgusting. I know it's sarcasm or whatever you're going for but it just comes off like retarded age play.

>>10129522
That's why you shouldn't take what anonymous people on an egyptian gardening website say seriously. cgl is filled with itas and roleplayers

>>10129550
I started doing the same thing recently

>>10129552
>getting triggered by sarcasm

go back to tumblr

>>10129249
A 50 year old who has been actively working in an office setting since the days of "word processor" meaning an electric typewriter can probably type as well as any of us. Typing isn't exactly a new thing. Even my grandparents can type respectably and they're in their 70s- yet my dad, who basically worked labor/tradeskill jobs his whole life, cannot type at all. He's not an idiot, but definitely isn't capable of working a job requiring knowledge of a keyboard.

>>10129514
The idea completing two grad programs and not being able to type is definitely distressing, regardless.

>>10129550
>disagreeing with you is lol edgy and cynical
ok, I will own the cynical. But that's because I'm a fucking dinosaur compared to most /cgl users and I'm jaded, I admit it.
But I still think it's dumb to attempt to control the behavior of others, and you're just setting yourself up for frustration.
Besides, you're not the boss of me, or anyone else here. What gives you the right to control anyone elses experience?

>>10129557
>>10129550
Good to see that you're openly admitting to shit posting for the sake of derailing threads. I'll know to report your autistic rantings from now on.

>>10129592
>you can't control me I want to be shitty!!1
Then why are you trying to ruin the board if you are as old as you claim? It's obvious that unnecessary saltiness is not helping anyone so why would you throw a you are not my boss tantrum if it's not for eDgYnEss?

>>10129593
Oh my bad, I thought it was nice to give them something to be a cunt about if they want to be a cunt that much.

>>10129593
How the fuck will you know it's me
You won't. I change my Typing styles all the time.

>>10129592
I'm pretty old too, anon. But I don't think it's ok to shit on people who aren't asking for it. And I'm not going to ignore it either.
Like do you understand the point of this thread?? Or do you just need to justify being an asshole this much?

>>10129563
>go back to tumblr
>triggered
Why are you in this thread with this meme shit. Do you have anything else to say other than fucking over played cgl memes?

>>10129522
college is the best time to wear lolita anon, esp if you can afford to have a big wardrobe

there are no dresscodes, and since you see the same people every day you'll only have to explain your style once. compared to being a weekend wearer, where you can't wear it to most jobs during the week and then on weekends you get stopped by strangers every fucking ten minutes

>>10129427
How is that relevant to the comment you're replying to?

>>10129431
Ikr, sensitive people should just stay at their house until they die, the world is too cool for them to handle

>>10129439
Cgl doesn't reflect real life. Most meets are a lot of fun.

>>10129519

Being an asshole is universal. If you’re from burger land, I’d ask you to examine our own culture before calling kettles black.

>>10129779
what? did you reply to the wrong person?

>>10129898

>they’re not wrong tho
>implying the racists are not wrong about assuming anon with the scamming boyfriend is Chinese

I was commenting on this. Assholes are everywhere not just in one ethnic group.

>>10129771
>sensitive people should just stay at their house until they die, the world is too cool for them to handle
My dad actually tried to convince me of this when I was younger so I ran away and what do you know- people aren't actually that bad unless you visit sites like this one.

>>10129242
This. It's also hilarious if he supposedly is rolling in it that he would want he posing photos and receiving gifts from other men//people. I know rich guys and they tend to be possessive most especially about their girls. If nothing else if this fantastical bullshit is real it sure looks poorly on a rich man not buying his girl whatever she wants. Overall what a weird roleplay to choose to play out on a African poverty awareness forum

>>10129262
>anon is most likely delusional in what their boyfriend really is.
>anon is also unlikely real but whatever

Trust me morals are subjective and goddamn am I myself great at getting free shit but there are limits to what you do in life certainly not without consequences. Rarely is it appropriate to accept anyone's generosity as they are not likely to not have ulterior motives. Good luck gulls and hopefully you never pull this kind of shit because there are plenty of stories on 48 hrs on what happens to people like this.

>>10130127
What is 48 hrs?

>>10130129
Investigates intriguing crime and justice cases . People just like the op tend to get murdered after screwing over the wrong person. So it's nice to know that in the grand scheme of things "karma" plays out

>>10129936
i see, i agree with you. Sorry for misunderstanding.

>>10130127
I used to love those segments on unsolved mysteries where some middle aged guy was going around scamming women to clean out their savings account to buy cars n shit. People would always have their faces blacked out and voice modulated so they could talk about what happened and how they got scammed.

If you tried to do something like that with lolita, I feel like you'd get caught so fast.
Cosplay is a bit different I think. Its more common to do patreon if you cosplay.

I think one thing /cgl/ has made me do is sacrifice parts of my physical health to have a better looking coord.
Not in the sense that I became an ana-chan. Bu I have EDS so I frequently need to wear a knee or ankle brace, especially if I walk more than a mile.
I also cannot wear impractical shoes for very long either, due to the same issue as above.
So ever if I'm at a con, I'll forgo my braces and wear shoes that look nicer, but be in excruciating pain, and need to limp around.
I'm getting better at it and telling myself "if someone wants to give me shit for making sure I can walk around and call me ita for it, then that's their problem."
And luckily my knee brace (which I use more than an ankle brace) is more easily hidden with otks.
(I don't have this much of an issue if I'm wearing lolita outside of a con. I'm less ikely to run into someone who will be from /cgl/ irl than at a con, so less likely to be put on the ita thread)
I also fret way too much on colors not matching EXACTLY the same.

>>10131170
cgl didn't make you do that, your mental illness did. no one here or on the internet kidnapped you and physically forced you to do any of that. you did it yourself.

>>10131170
worry about the matching more than your medical equipment if you want to avoid the ita thread
if someone did post you for having medical equipment, the thread would call vendetta

>>10130435
Yeah I agree with you. In these niche fashions you would get a reputation real fuckin fast

I started wearing lolita somewhere in 2008 and was a lonelita for almost 4 years, because I was terrified of meeting my local comm. When I finally met my comm I realized that the mean "brandwhores" practically don't exist. On the other hand it turned out to be true that most girls in my comm were annoying weebs and socially awkward, so I never really connected with anyone and became a lonelita again after a while. Then COF became popular and I started posting my outfits there. I became really obsessed with positive comments and it hurt my self image so much. After a while I realized, that my images were also posted on cgl and I often received some nitpicks. So I began to shoop my images, but still felt that I could never be good enough. After a while lolita just didn't feel like fun anymore and I was on the verge of quitting lolita. But fortunately, I quit social media instead and am now more happy than ever.

>>10131213
Ntayrt but manipulation is a thing.

>>10131215
That only happens now. I definitely saw people in the past get posted for being in wheelchairs and shit. Cgl has lightened up a lot.

I've found myself becoming meaner and grumpier. I've ended up leechblocking this site after a certain amount of time, to head it off at the pass.

>>10121245
absolutely.
I used to marvel at cosplay and cosplayers, the fun, the sentiment of sharing a nerdy thing in common, the amazing artistry and skill, but reality hit me like a shit ton of bricks: the average cosplayer nowadays is a money-hungry vain toxic asswipe who, really, a lot of times they're barely into the thing they're cosplaying at all, and are only into it for cash and attention/clout.
average profile is
>hi im skylarayden 23 y/o and im a poc denipansexualflux trans nb disabled cosplayer from texas uwu
>buy my premium snapchat! ;)
>buy my lewd videos on patreon! uwu
>im so oppressed please buy my nudes i need money to eat (then buys luxury shit instead)
>yall think u slick... cosplaying x is problematic dont @ me
>sjw bullshittery ranting 24/7
>acts really sweet and kawaii uwu
>pretends to care about fans/friends at all
>basically all about cliques and middle school drama

It really has killed my enjoyment.

Not to mention the online cosplay scene is always solely US centred. Cosplay superstars are always from US lol.

CGL has helped me up my Lolita game from the ita threads to the COF threads.

My perception of the fashion is changed by the local community which is why I lonelita instead.

Maybe? I’m not sure, like it feels like the only places to talk about cosplay is either here or Facebook

>>10133148
>CGL has helped me up my Lolita game from the ita threads to the COF threads.
The stuff that gets hyped on here is usually pretty bad looking or just plain boring and "safe' so I wonder why you think you somehow improved.

>>10131306
>I was on the verge of quitting lolita. But fortunately, I quit social media instead

i am honestly shocked that more people don't make this realization. good on you for being aware that it was the social media/comparing/negative community involvement that spurred your dislike instead of quitting the hobby itself

when people quit the hobby itself because of the other people in the hobby, i question whether or not they ever really liked the hobby for what it is to begin with. and if that's the case, then good riddance

>>10133102
>Cosplay superstars are always from US lol
APEX KEK

>>10131306
>>10133155
>i am honestly shocked that more people don't make this realization. good on you for being aware that it was the social media/comparing/negative community involvement that spurred your dislike instead of quitting the hobby itself

Nyart but I don't understand why more people don't come to this realisation too, maybe they do but they just don't talk about it so much? When I was about 14 I was obsessed with all those efamous living doll girls who wore 'lolita' and wanted to be like that (this was around the time Venus and Dakota were in the height of popularity) I got into the routine of obsessively shooping my photos and hyper focusing on likes, positive comments and how I looked. I started hating the way that I actually looked in photos and wasn't enjoying dressing up so much, it just made me miserable. I lasted about a month before I realised being a social media person was just not for me.

6+ years later and I learned what lolita fashion actually is (not the crap I thought it was then), and I really enjoy wearing it and don't feel the need to be some big celebrity. I'm content enough in just enjoying the fashion for myself. When I don't feel like wearing it I just don't, I don't need to answer to anyone. It's my style/hobby and I enjoy it how I choose to. If my barely pubescent 14 year old self was aware enough to come to that realisation, I don't understand why so many grown ass women don't and instead quit liking the stuff they do. I really just don't understand the girls who start off trying to be some big lolita celebrity then flounce and go full normie or switch to some other shitty style with less ~rules uwu~ the second they get any concrit. Maybe it's just our subculture's way of self regulating?

>>10133154
obviously by looking at what you all hate...such a hard concept to grasp

>>10128858
Exactly the same. I would have been ita garbage the first time I went to a meet if not for cgl

>>10127847
>tfw i got into lolita because of cgl

>>10135635
...I'm the anon you replied to and so did I. I legit clicked on this board on accident because I used to go to /ck/ and /tv/

>>10133367
Sad. I don't need anyone to help me form my opinions..

>>10129249
Do NOT try to pull this shit if you work in the Federal Government.

I'm known as a bit of a lolcow on here and it's always been a whatever thing and at one point in time someone followed me around at con and posted here what I did.

I only hung out with my small circle of friends, but it still spooked me enough to take a break from conventions for a while.

>>10121245
I decided to browse here because I have always had an interest in cosplay, and it was a pretty big mistake IMO.
I'm a big fat fuck with somewhat bad depression, and due to this its difficult to lose weight because if I cant see any results after a while I just give up because I don't see a point if I want to die anyways. I'm also ugly, and was once described as "homely" in a polite way to describe my physical repulsiveness.
I wanted to cosplay and dress up and have fun at conventions, but due to everything I read I became incredibly paranoid. That one person, Pixyteri or whoever, was big in drama threads so I knew how psychotically critical people could be of fatties, even if they really weren't that fat at all. I was also incredibly self hating and would tear myself down at any opportunity by reflecting on my inexperience and outright lack of understanding how things work(makeup, sewing, costume construction, wigstyling) and add it as fuel to my paranoia that anyone around me could be a gull snapping pics to add to their "epic cringe compilation".
Thus, my first cosplay was my last. I had fun in the times that I could forget just how bad my costume looked or the imaginary boogeymen laughing at me behind my back.
I also wound up finding out that around 4-5 people from here attend a rather small convention I go to every year with my friends. Two of them I recognize by their costumes they wear every year which I think always looks really nice, but I would never speak to them just because I'm afraid how they'll turn out to be.
I would rather not grab at a rope if I knew there is a 50/50 chance it was a snake.
tldr; guess im a lazy delusional fatty with bad paranoia

>>10135728
The easiest way to not be a cow is to just not engage. Seriously just don’t respond. If you do, be extremely polite like you’re working a customer service job. As soon as you start trying to act smarmy and say dumb shit like “you’re just jealous”, people instantly want to see you upset.

It’s sad how many Lolitas think that prerequisite to being a good Lolita is making an internet presence and opening your life up. It’s really not and I hope people start putting their safety and privacy over e-fame in an extremely niche community.

>>10135938
At that point in time I had pulled back from the community, it was just some anon who felt the need to find and watch me. It was weird.