/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I'll start. I used to love tea but enough is enough. I can't take it anymore. Are there no other hot beverages for us?

>inb4 I had sex in my burando
Try to keep it more related to lolita, we all go to the toilet etc.

>>10115074
sorry but i actually did get dressed up in burando specifically so my boyfriend could fuck me. took off the petticoat though because i didn't want to get lube on it

A few weeks ago at a meet-up someone said she liked my dress. She asked "it's Victorian Maiden isn't it?" and I said yes. I was too awkward to say anything else. It was Moitie. I still feel embarrassed about it now. I want to apologise to her and also to Mana-sama.

>>10115071
I don’t like brolitas so I exclude them when I can and ignore them as much as possible at meets.

>>10115078
Yeah my point is nobody cares. You should be more ashamed of your boring post.

I'm a daily lolita but I'm actually not very ladylike at all. I'm a regular drug user and sit in grody bars drinking beer a lot. I'm not a chainsmoker but I do smoke occasionally. The only dresses I ever sell are my most fancy ones which I've only worn to special occasions as I wouldn't feel good selling items I've smoked in or that are generally worn a lot during my daily life.
Still, doesn't feel very lolita at times.

>>10115096
Tbh I don't think drug use is very unlolita like unless it's something that makes you ugly like meth. But smoking is gross indeed.

>>10115096
Relatable. I'm a weird combination of stoner and lolita, like I smoke hella weed every day but I smoke out of a cute sparkly pink bubbler and like to listen to classical music when I'm baked. I used to go out to bars and smoke a lot, but I grew out of it. Quit smoking while you can anon, quitting was so hard but i feel way better now.

>>10115087
>tell us about things you should not have done
not ashamed of it, just probably shouldn't have done it considering how people try to distance the fashion from the book/sexual acts

I dislike a girl in my comm because she has my dream dress

a shitty bodyline dress is on my dream dress list but im too embarrassed to admit it

i actually really wish bodyline would go back to making acceptable lolita basics bc im too lazy and dumb to order from taobao/use a shopping service for auctions

>>10115114
Weren't some of their basics design replicas?

>>10115110
I don’t think anyone really care what you do in your private sex life as long as it says private. As long as it remains private it doesn’t affect the fashion’s image.
IMO constantly having to see posts about someone having sex in brand is more annoying than the idea of someone actually having sex in brand.

>>10115116
Please don't take the bait. Just ignore everyone who brings

>>10115116
Please don't take the bait. Just ignore everyone who brings up sex.

I've worn ugly trainers with lolita in public when my heels broke so I had to put on the only other pair of shoes I had with me.

May Mana forgive me.

I don't like Alice in Wonderland

>>10115115
yes but i don't really care about design replicas anymore. if we're being honest, most of taobao are design replicas and knockoffs with a few tweaks here and there

>>10115114
I own 2 dream dresses from Bodyline and for one of them I am looking for another colorway but did not show up yet with a decent price

>>10115130
This is the most shameful post so far desu

>>10115132
design replicas are a part of every fashion anon, deal with it

>>10115121
Oh no, how long did you have to wear them?

>>10115114
I will actually argue that Bodyline is better quality than a lot of the cheaper Taobao. The materials they use for bouses and dresses (excluding chiffon ) are much sturdier. They just feel solid. I have never had a broken zipper or unraveling seams.

I have a bunch of Taobao blouses and dresses and they are just made of the shittiest material. I've had some seams just unravel and come apart.

Bodyline is of course far from burando but I will argue they are better than at least half of Taobao. They seriously need to restock all their shoes and blouses already especially the RHS.

>>10115121
Sometimes I take not too horribly looking flats with me to a Meetup that I know will destroy my feet. I wear them on the way to the meet and on the way home. Too many times have I wanted to cry while standing on the bus in lolita shoes.

>>10115139
i strongly agree anon. i have 3 dresses from taobao brands, and they're cuter designs and prints sure, but they're as thin as paper and weak. my bodyline dresses were thick and sturdy, and yes they didn't always use the best ribbon or lace, but sometimes having that peace of mind of wearing a sturdy yet affordable dress feels nice.

I buy other people's DDs sometime, not because I want to prevent them from getting their DD or anything like that but because I like the dress too

>>10115137
Most of the day. It wasn't any kind of event though, I was just hanging out by myself enjoying some nice weather. I was sticking out a bit though, iirc I was wearing jewel toned classic and some normies decided to take some creepshots. Really wasn't a great day, but I get a chuckle out of it now.

>>10115140
What lolita shoes to you wear? Not gonna lie, I feel secondhand embarrassment when I see lolitas at the meet change their shoes. I once met a girl who admitted she was wearing the wrong size because it fit her coord better but she wore cheap flats outside pictures. She has improved since then. I rather wear plain Mary Janes than flats or ill-fitting shoes.

>>10115144
Gemgem? Hello

>>10115140
>>10115151
I don't understand this, I thought flats are bad for your feet?

>>10115153
I'm not fat and not a reseller/scalper so no

>>10115139
Bodyline has some pretty good dresses for the 10-15 $ they are on sale. For someone that wears lolita often they are very usefull what I hate about them is that the waist ties do not come off

>>10115141
IMO some bodyline pieces are really good if you're wearing lolita daily and need cheaper, casual pieces to pad your wardrobe with so you won't be scared of ruining your burando while doing daily, non-lolita activities.

>>10115164
I don't like any of thre designs they have currently, they used to have really great cardigans back in the day

>tfw you had pic related but had to sell it because you were no longer an underweight preteen and didnt fit it anymore

I sold a dress for 900$ that I paid around 300$ for. Not on purpose, it was an auction without BIN. Still feel like I can never admit it openly though.

>>10115169
I totaly agree

>>10115176
That looks super ugly

>>10115178
If starting price was under 300$ everything is fine, is not your fault that some girls wanted that dress soooo bad

>>10115178
I'll never understand this. You're just too good. It's not like you forced someone to buy it for that much, if someone buys something so overpriced it's all on them

>>10115071
There are a couple "lolitas" who occasionally try to buy cute old school things that either will not fit, or are just gross and grimy humans in general. Anyway, whenever I see them bidding on something I always BIN or outbit them just because I'd feel sad for the item to go to such a cruddy home. Then I make it my mission to do my best at giving it a great home myself. Luckily, most of the items I like, they're just not usually the first choice of things for me.

>>10115185
>>10115189
I guess I feel bad for people who really love the print, but can't afford it now because of scalpers and people who are collecting it because it's hard to get. People wouldn't admit this about themselves but I'm sure there are lolitas who want something because it's rare/expensive and wouldn't be as interested in the print otherwise.

>>10115169
I also agree. Sometimes I want to wear lolita but also need to clean my house or do some gardening or something. My $12 love Nadia op is perfect for days like that.

>>10115200
Gardening in lolita sounds like a dream life, anon

>>10115134
Doesn't mean you shouldn't feel ashamed.

>>10115208
Yes it does

>>10115208
Mte. There's good reasons why design replicas are legal, but that doesn't mean it's right to sell fake Mary Magdalene pieces.

>>10115214
This thread is for things you feel ashamed about, not proud bodyline-chans

>>10115157
No, heels are bad for your feet (and your knees, your back, etc..) Flats are way better from a health perspective. Lolita shoes aren't as bad as normal heels because they tend to have a platform rise under the toes that reduces some of the offset, at least.

I have to wear orthotic (medical) shoes so I am always that person changing my shoes when I get to the meet - I can wear cute shoes but only for a few hours and never for much walking. My usual shoes are basic mary janes, so they're not as terrible as sneakers, but I really miss being able to wear nice low heels on a casual basis.

>>10115215
Can you really call the a-line-yoked-frilled-bottom-dresses replicas of anything? They're too basic imo and every brand has dresses like that. That's not to say the BL ones are anywhere close to being good quality, ofc.

I racked up almost 30k in debt just from buying lolita. And I have a pretty well-paid job too, so the total amount I've spent on it is even greater than that.

>>10115225
No offense but I would just wear the comfy shoes the whole time in that case, just to save me from the embarrassment of changing them

>>10115225
Actually both are bad, flats have no support.

>>10115226
We are talking about design replicas. No need to derail the thread with random examples of non-replicas bodyline did.

>>10115234
I feel stressed now

>>10115238
I'm sorry, I just jumped to that assumption because when people talk about MM BL design replicas, they usually mean one of pic related, which... just imo, are too vague to be called design replicas

I was a disgusting ita-chan from 2006-2009 and I thought I knew what lolita was.
I finally wised up and started buying actual brand and coording well.
Funfact: I have that god awful black and white dress that the infamous miku cosplayer with the suspenders and rainbow socks has.
I still have it. It's been banished to the basement with it's detachable arm warmer bell sleeved things and it's horrid head dress.

>>10115225
That picture has the woman wearing crappy heels. The heel should be centered under the heel of your foot.

>>10115249
The one on the left is closer to being a VM replica actually:
https://lolibrary.org/items/victorian-maiden-mallory-velveteen-op
It's not an exact copy but pretty damn close.

When I was a retarded newbie, I thought that lolita fashion = lolicon, and that even though the fashion itself wasn't sexy in the traditional sense, it HAD to have some sort of sexuality to it. I've grown out of that thankfully but the fact I thought I was the hottest shit in my tacky ita garbage dresses, will haunt me forever.

>>10115250
>>10115256
Don't feel ashamed of your ita past, all of us started somewhere! What matters is that if you're aware of the time when you were an ita, it probably means you've grown and are a good lolita now! (I hope)

>>10115195
I do the same actually. Or if I see someone who I know can't fit it, I will try to outbid them.

>>10115072
I’m with you anon. I prefer coffee over tea.

I stopped hanging out with a lolita friend because her and her husband are serious chain smokers and their house smells awful. My brand smelled like smoke when I would leave and it stressed me out that the smell would linger even after washing.

>>10115139
I'm holding on to my pink Bodyline RHS for as long as I can. Afaik some Taobao brands make RHS but none of them come in pink. Honestly Bodyline's shoes are pretty good quality and it's a shame they don't seem like they'll come back in stock.

I don't care about girls who are too fat for their dresses. They should just be quiet. I've been thin my whole life and nothing in giant American sizes ever fits me. Finally something does, and all the fatties try to get brands to increase sizes.

>>10115281
I hate coffee, sorry. Maybe I haven't found the right one...

>>10115299
Omg same. I'm not even that skinny, I just have small boobs, and I have sizing issues with 90% of normie clothing because of it

>>10115302
I used to hate coffee, but I actually really enjoy lattes now.

>>10115299
Same. Fatties even pushed for a lot o stores to no longer stock under a size two in pants because "Unrealistic body expectation" which a lot of stores followed suit.
I hate going out and trying on clothes because nothing in hamburger land really fit a petite frame.
Lolita is one of the few things to be made for more petite women. I'll be damned if ham planets take that from me

People seem to really hate it if somebody owns something that doesn't fit them, but I use an old school Moitie piece as weight loss inspiration. It's velvet, pretty sturdy and therefore unforgiving. You either fit it or you don't.
So, whenever I feel like giving up and binging, I'll just look at it...

people who complain endlessly about conlitas are 1000x more annoying than conlitas

>>10115318
Wrong thread sweaty

>>10115303
>>10115299
>>10115313

>woe is me! i am just so hot and skinny! nobody knows what its like to be so so skinny!

>>10115324
Are you ok

>>10115324
Oh man I can smell the resentment from here.

>>10115249
bodylines stolen IW poodle print, AP melody doll, and AP's fruit parlour.

>>10115324
Whenever somebody can't stop talking about how sm0l, tiny or "petite" they are, it's safe to assume that they're likely just an average weight midget.
Being "skinny" in 'Murica is not an achievement to brag about lol.

>>10115316
I do the same thing with my pieces anon I recently decided I'm not buying anymore pieces until I get to my goal weight

>>10115337
I'm 4'10 and 84lbs, but yeah, ok. Whatever makes you feel better about yourself, anon-chan.
All you people being bitter about skinny girls is really the embarassing lolita moments.

>>10115337
Seriously I have a close friend who is 4'11 and 95 pounds and has no issues shopping for clothes so I don't understand how all these skinny girls have SUCH a hard time finding petite clothes especially when most big stores literally have a petite section

>>10115337
wow, this is so true. I hope the trend of girls calling themselves "sm0l" dies out. it's really cringe.

>>10115348
Anon, you're not skinny. Just slim and extremely short.

>>10115354
>extremely short
I'm crying, but you're not wrong. My family jokingly calls me "freakishly dwarfish."
At least it makes me look cute... r-right?

>>10115316
Honestly I don't get why that makes so many people mad. I have an old school tacky camo Meta skirt that I don't think I'll ever fit because it is tiiiiiny but I am never selling because I love just having it for the novelty of it. I did fit it when I first got it but just barely and I don't think even if I lose weight I'll ever fit it again because I will never have the metabolism I had at 17 again. I would only consider selling it to someone who would truly appreciate it.

>>10115349
Because some of us are tall and skinny. Clothing stores don't believe that exists.

>>10115337
>>10115350
nobody itt called themselves "sm0l" til the angry fatties showed up
>>10115324
nobody called themselves hot either. maybe if y'all put the fork down you wouldn't have to complain about the fashion being too small!

>>10115349
Petite sections are a joke if you're 5'6" and 110 lbs. They're literally made for short people, not tall, thin people. Women's clothing falls off of me and I almost exclusively shop in the Junior's section.

>>10115324
>Woe is me! I'm just so ugly and fat! Nobody knows what it's like to be such a landwhale!

>>10115364
That's because petite means small, not tall and thin, genius

>>10115335
Okay, but these are not design replicas.

Kamikaze Girls is boring. I never finished it.

>>10115364
Yes, because no one ever makes tall clothes for thin people. It's not like the entire fashion industry is based entirely around tall thin models or anything.....

>>10115370
so you agree lolita fits tall thin girls and tall fatties need to shut up

>>10115348
no one is being bitter about skinny girls. it was you oh so smol borderline ana-chans who started complaining about fatties and saying you outbid "fatties" at the last minute for pieces you think they don't deserve.

lolita is known in japan as a chubby girl fashion. deal with it.

>>10115377
chubby in Japan =/= 170 lb ham planet

>>10115225

Flats are not good. A good heel support system is best, and one that is best suited for your arch needs. Flats have very little support and are glorified cardboard socks with no cushioning for the arches, which can cause wear and tear on the cushion support in the balls of the feet.

>>10115225

Also I feel you - I've noticed a hallux valgus forming and I'm only in my mid twenties. I need to buy nice shoes that aren't heels, but all of them are so ugly.

>>10115359
>I don't get why that makes so many people mad
Because they want to wear it, outside

>>10115373
The movie? Did you not even want to watch it for the clothes?

I'm an established dominatrix and most of my wardrobe, which is now bordering 150 main pieces, was bought for me by my middle-aged, Japanese-born personal slave. He's also driven me to and picked me up from meets, and had lunch and walks with me while I'm dressed in the fashion. He's been to some conventions with me here and there too. He's actually extremely knowledgeable about the fashion and - because he considers it a duty now - often informs me of new releases before I find out on my own. He's also great company. I consider him a treasured friend, and the best kind of "sugar daddy" (one I don't have sex with, get naked for or anything of the like). I feel like he'd be wasted on another Domme that doesn't have any interest in Japanese pop culture or fashion.

I'd never tell my comm though. They probably wouldn't understand and don't want to know. I also doubt they'd believe it because I have a reputation for being petite, quiet and cute.

>>10115389
aw this is actually kind of cute

>>10115096

>I wouldn't feel good selling items I've smoked in or that are generally worn a lot during my daily life.

Good on you. There is an asthmatic out there who isn't going to get an attack from smoke filled clothing, so honestly I appreciate that.

>>10115389
I don't understand why someone would post about this. I like to hear about the girls who secretly hate tea or feel ashamed about outbidding people but still keep doing it. It's mentioned like every day on cgl that lolitas do not want to hear about your fetishes so why would you post this unless it's boring bait. I guess you're going to reply to yourself and derail the thread now. Thanks a lot.

>>10115078
Yaaaaawn. Y’all bitches basic with this shit

Instead of admitting there was damage on a dress, I once just snipped off the offending loose lace, and it looked like new again. I couldn't even tell afterwards where the damage was.

>>10115389
It's honestly nobody's business but your own, as long as you're safe, healthy, and happy. Keep doing you, anon.

>>10115399
How did the missing lace not make an obvious difference? I'm curious what dress it was

>>10115349
I think this is more of an issue with large chain stores? In the women's section of Kohl's, Macy's, Target, etc. a size "small" is actually huge. I can usually find things that fit well in the junior's (teen) section, but rarely in the women's section of these stores. However, stores like F21 that are geared towards young women and teenagers are better about vanity sizing. To put this into perspective, in the 1950's, the smallest size offered was an 8, but that was equivalent to a modern size 0 or 00. However, a lot of stores don't even offer sizes below 2 because obesity advocates claim that the existence of size 0 clothing oppresses them and causes eating disorders. I have no problem with larger sizes being offered when there is clearly a demand for them, but just shifting the range of sizes to increasingly larger measurements and decreasing options for smaller people isn't the right way to go about it.

>>10115234
Did you pay it off? I myself have 4K in debt but it’s a combination of when I lost my job had to buy/stuff pay bills, car repairs and Lolita. I’m projected to pay it off in two months.

>>10115374
When was the last time you've gone to a normie clothing store? There is a huge difference between the clothing made for fashion models and the clothing sold in department stores to the average woman.

>>10115395
It sounds a lot like bait

>>10115234

Seconding >>10115404. Have 8k in debt from stupid job licensing fees, living expenses when I was in between jobs, and some from lolita. It's making me nervous even though I'm paying it off.

>>10115395
I mean, it'd be pretty off topic for anywhere else and given how much shame surrounds any connection with lolita and fetish I figured here was the appropriate place, but go off, anon.

>>10115395

nayrt but it's related to lolita. Since it offends you clearly it belongs in this thread.

>>10115387
I tried to watch it for the clothes but it was boring and too long.

>>10115373
i didn't enjoy it either. i watched it in my sophomore japanese class, otherwise i probably would have turned it off and forgotten about it. it made zero impact on me from an entertainment standpoint and a lolita standpoint

>>10115364
Since when is 5'6 tall? You're average height

>>10115374
Are u kidding m8? I'm tall and thin and I have one (fucking one) pair of pants that actually fit me. Stores sell shit that's either too short or impossibly built. Who the fuck can fit into pants that have thin ankles and a bigger waist measurement than ass? WHY ARE THESE PEOPLE SHAPED LIKE TRAFFIC CONES

Be me 6'2 tall stocky build bearded guy 23 y/o
>love short girls
>score date with Mandy a 9/10 qt busty asian girl that is 5' 2"
>thought she was a normie met her at the gym at the college
>show up in dress shirt, leather jacket, and jeans
>wait at theater
> "hey anon"
>she grabs me from behind
>turn around
>fuckingnodeargod.jpeg
>she is dressed head to toe in pastel clothes Pink choker, baby blue Eeyore crop top, white skirt,pig tails, little cat backpack, white and pink skirt, pink flats.
>"H-hey Mandy I umm, you look cute."
>"ohh thanks anon you look so handsome. you dont think I'm overdressed do you?"
>dear god yes
>"Well honestly a bit, but it's different and idk I think it suits you you look great. I guess you must love cute stuff right?"
>Thank god theaters are dark.
>"aww thats so sweet anon thanks! I do it's this style called pastel goth and I just love it! I got into it back in Japan."
>"wow that's cool Mandy. Let's go get tickets before all the good seats are taken."
>"Wait Anon I have to tell you. I'm glad you asked me out Anon. I've seen you around the gym and I've had crush on you. I love how strong and tall you are."
>"ohh haha well I'm glad I asked you out then."
>whatthefuckthisbitchcrazy.wav
>She wants to kiss me.
>Need to bend down to kiss her.
>She holds my hand the rest of the night.
>People stare at me for having what looks like a busty 16 year old out on a date with a 30 year old.
>run into Aunt.
>"H-hey anon is this your friend?"
>Mandy is as tall as my 14 y/o cousin and looks about as young.
>"Hi I'm Mandy. We met in college in Math Class!"
>"Oh well now isn't that nice you kids have fun."
>Aunt makes fun of me calls me a cradle robber.
God damn I hated how often people would fucking stare at me and how often police would ID us, but holy fuck she was a beast in the sack.
>Overall 10/10.
>would be confused as a pedophile again.
pic not her just there for reference.

>>10115505
Nigga, first off, no one cares about your roleplay, second, wrong thread.

>>10115505

>>10115335
None of these are design replicas, they're print replicas, which isn't the same thing. Design replicas are replicas of a general design, like the construction of a dress (see: a-line-yoked-frilled-bottom-dresses). You can copyright things like prints because they are unique to the brand, but you can't copyright the shape of a dress.

Read this, it's a bit outdated but all the thing in the good knock-off category are design replicas: http://www.fyeahlolita.com/2009/01/bodyline-lolitas-walmart-part-4-brand.html

And watch this, it's more about normie clothes but it explains the different between counterfeits (print replicas) and knock-offs (design replicas) very well: https://youtu.be/U9wY8Wz6lCs

>>10115505
>Lolita
>Want but shouldn't have
fucking should have read the fucking thread more closely... fuckity.
I'm retarded.

>>10115520
Moral of story never venture out of your boards kids.

>>10115389
this is actual goals

>>10115475
I think women's pants just suck. I'm tall and chubby and have the exact same problem. anything high-waisted always ends up sliding down to my hips.

I got fed up with trying to sell items a few years ago and donated a pile of clothes (mostly IW, Meta and Baby from around 2008-2009) to one of those charity bins just to get rid of it. Part of me regrets it, but I had so many buyers flake on me after reducing prices for months that I just gave up.

I've always wondered if they turned up in their resale shops for sale, or just got chopped into cleaning rags.

>>10115538
Because you're not getting the right size. you need a bigger size than what you're wearing if this is happening. Same used to happen to me, I am tall and chub too. I went up a size, despite nt actually gaining anything (in fact, I have been jogging and lost 10 pounds) and lo and behold, they are high waisted and don't slide down.

>>10115544
I have done this.

Selling is so much work and at a low enough price it isn’t worth it anymore. And the unwanted items take up space. I hope the value village shoppers enjoy their brand!

I have never and will never buy secondhand, I know in this fashion that's a huge handicap but I just can't bring myself to do it, I don't care how good a condition an item is in or how much I want it, secondhand is disgusting to me. It could be new with tags and I'd turn my nose up. More for the rest of you I guess

>>10115470
US average height for women is 5'4". Two inches is a lot when you're talking about clothes fitting.

>>10115302
I drink mostly masala chai and apple cider, and wassail for special occasions in the winter.

My shame is that I still check bodyline semi-regularly, just to see what shit they're pulling now. I haven't bought that stuff for years, but I feel a bit nostalgic still. It's like checking up on a tacky distant cousin with unspecified substance issues.

I also look at FanPlusFriend and Anna House, but that's less shameful.

Sometimes i pick my nose and wipe it on my sleeve

>>10115359
>Honestly I don't get why that makes so many people mad

Maybe because clothes are meant to be worn, not hoarded, and lolita brands have a limited amount of released clothing???

>>10115379
170 lbs isn’t a hamplanet you retarded ana-chan. Technically obese yes, but nowhere near the gravitational pull the 300+ lbs fatties have.

>>10115610

Jesus christ enough with the height and weight discussion the anas and the fatties run wild when this shit is brought up and all it does is make posters feel bad about themselves

>>10115617
they are a smaller hamplanet but a hamplanet nonetheless

>>10115568
Have you ever heard of a washing machine

>>10115622
I'm just happy to fit in the clothes I love.

>>10115299

I feel this way but about the way my body is built. So much media and fashion is built around accentuating tits and ass, that lolita is really a refreshing breath of air that's ideal for my body type. There is literally the rest of the westernized fashion world for 'omg woe is my big tits.' Let me have my small piece of happiness.

>>10115617
Anon, unless you're 6' tall, you're def fat. Just because there's 300+ landwhales doesn't mean that "smaller fats" aren't huge either.

>>10115617
>Technically obese yes, but nowhere near the gravitational pull the 300+ lbs fatties have.

You know you're in a fucked up country when.

Yes I know I could say the US, but UK is now approaching these astronomical weights as well, my condolences.

>>10115637
I didn’t say 170 lbs isn’t fat, they just aren’t hamplanets. Reading is fundamental anon.

>>10115096
>>10115107
Yeah I'm a stonerlita. i have a blanket in my car to put over myself so I don't accidentally drop ashes or a cherry on my clothes. Too many holey sweatshirts to risk my lolita.

>>10115382
Just buy simple mary janes and lace up boots. They look good, they're versatile, and they won't destroy your feet.

>>10115349
I'm 5'6" and 105, try finding XS clothes with 60cm long sleeves, or 31" inseams.

>>10115373
Elisabeth OP in red/white is tacky af. Too much detailing, too contrasting.

>>10115359
I don't disagree with you and don't want to get involved with the other fat people discussions, but this metabolism excuse always irks me. Metabolism doesn't really change as much as people think, it's like 1% shower per year after you are 25 or so. People who think their metabolism slowed right after high school just got bad habits after high school.

>be me
>Be 20ish
>Never liked toy parade, dreamy baby room, you know.. those prints
>They're too childish I don't get it
>Turn thirty
>Suddenly like these prints
>Don't know why
>Still don't like the theme but the colors and overall patterns are appealing
>Scared to buy on Western market in case it was owned by an ageplayer or other gross fetish person
I just like the cute prints. Am I safe if I buy from Japan?

I feel bad because I’m friends with some other lolitas on Facebook, and a good few of them are massive itas. One of them I’m afraid to unfriend because I think she’ll be weirdly pushy about it, but the others are genuinely sweet. I feel like a monster every time I snicker at their coordinates

Sometimes I feel like fetishizing fashion. It feels really nice to be cute and all doll-like girl to my strong and cool gf.

I publicly like to consider myself an unapologetic trans rights supporter and LGBT activist in general. However, in truth I am seriously creeped out by like 80% of brolitas and MtF lolitas because so often they don’t pass at all and make the fashion look like a sissy fetish. Unless they pass really well I’d be afraid of having to deal with them in a comm or have friends/family/strangers see them and think all lolitas are fetishists.

On a similar note, my favorite brand is MMM yet for the longest time I thought Mana looked kinda weird/creepy, and not in the intended way. His look has grown on me now though.

>>10115568
you know the precious burando you buy straight from the store, someone's probably worn it before you did to try on.

>>10115648
Go for first release toy parade and avoid salopettes

My apartment is pretty gross. There is shit than needs fixing/replacement and there is a lot of cleaning to do. I could stop buying lolita pieces for half a year and get old windows replaced or stop buying and going to meetups for a year and buy new kitchen furniture but I can't force myself to make that kind of sacrifice. I never invite friends to my place because what will they think of me. I do some cleaning on a regular basis but it never really changes the overall look of my place.

>>10115647
Bodies and metabolisms are different? I ate like absolute crap throughout my youth, I’m talking multiple sodas a day, pizza, junk food, never a vegetable and no working out but I stayed under 120 until I hit senior year, then in college I shot up to 140 with no change in eating or activity patterns.

The most unlolita thing that I have done is not wearing lolita, ever. I'm a lolita at heart who owns lolita clothes, 2 jsk,1 op,1 skirt and 2 blouses so far. I have online lolita friends who think I'm a real lonelolita because I showed them pics of my tiny wardrobe.
I've tried my dresses of course, but I just cannot make myself wear them outside. All the time I'm thinking "Not yet, my wardrobe is still too small, I'm still not good enough" and all that kind of crap. I feel so happy when I see myself in the mirror wearing my few brand, though. I'm sick gulls, this is my stupidest, saddest secret.
I'm also an artist and I know I'm good, but yet I can't open commissions, even when people ask me about it from time to time. I can't get rid of this feeling "not yet anon, you need to get better, you're not ready, blah blah"

Most non lolita thing I’ve done is wear brand to to a frat party in college haha

I feel really bad about this but... I don't want to take any photos with my comm.

They ended a lot of times on the ita thread; hopefully got nice comments about myself being the well dressed, but still makes me anxious to appear there.

Now I refuse to take grupal photos, they're all so nice people and they're worried if I am depressed or something because of that...

I feel like garbage

>>10115673
i used to feel like that. what worked for me is start by dressing simple, a blouse with a normie skirt, nice makeup and heels or something, head out into town with a trustworthy friend or two for lunch, you'll eventually forget what you're wearing. rinse and repeat with "increasingly lolita" outfits until comfortable. The general truth is you will get 100 compliments for every 1 rude remark while in lolita, people asking questions are just politely interested, rude people are shitheads who everyone hates.
also do not feel unworthy of your clothes. you earned them yourself. on behalf of all of us, please enjoy them.

>>10115651
whenever I date someone I always love looking like the super cute girly person, doesnt matter if I am dating a guy or a girl so I totally get it hahaha

>>10115676
same, my comm gets absolutely demolished every time theres a new meet photo (and sometimes for good reason) but i tend to join the photos anyway just so i have a memory marker for the day. it may feel bad to be in a posted photo but you need to remember the people in the ita thread are not singling you out, you may very well be the best dressed there.

>>10115568
You're missing out on so much. I mean, more for me, but it seems odd to be so opposed to buying secondhand. It's not like it's used lingerie.

>>10115648
99.9% of the time, ageplayers don't know enough about lolita fashion to shop on any other site than Wish. I highly doubt they'd know enough about the fashion to not only purchase brand, but to choose the prints the lolita comm has decided are ageplay-y.

>>10115379
One doesn't even need to be that tall to still fall in the normal bmi category.

All of you remind me of some dumb classmates of mine who somehow thought weighing 50kg and therefore being a bit lighter than me, made them "superior" - despite being a head shorter...
Even though you might weigh less than a tall girl, you can still be fatter than her, anonettes.

I bought someones dreamdress with money I made from selling nudes of someone else, then sold it to them for half the original price.

>>10115698
sounds illegal but chaotic good

>>10115409
>>10115651
The OP literally said this is NOT the appropriate place to talk about sex

>>10115544
>>10115565
Did you never try to sell it within your comm? I've never had someone flake on me on lacemarket. Wonder why it happens to some people so much. You could also try to do it like wunderwelt.

>>10115641
You're drive stoned? Smoke in your car?

>>10115650
Maybe you can help them without being mean by shopping together

>>10115673
You need to actively work on your confidence, it isn't going to fix itself. Fears like these just get worse if you don't do anything.

>>10115316
>>10115347
Please be careful anons, this is how eating disorders start.

>>10115702
I smoke in my car, usually right before I'm set to head inside wherever I went.

>>10115703
It isn't. It's okay to use your clothing as motivation to get a healthier body.

I’m a size 18 and have several dresses still with tags I have bought over the last 5 years in my closet. I have 0 intention on selling them and probably will never be small enough to wear them. I know I’m considered a “hamplanet” but I’m okay with this. I’ll still collect the items I want since they are a hobby I enjoy to look at and make coords on a dress form.

>>10115646
you're the salty cunt that posted it in the ita thread, aren't you?

>>10115697
i hope im never fat enough to delude myself into thinking that being borderline overweight is acceptable

>>10115617
>Technically obese yes, but

You don't need to be the size of uranus to be a hamplanet

>>10115671
where are you located anon? your landlord should take care of utility repairs like window replacements for you. one of the joys of renting.

>>10115725
I don't weigh that much, I just wanted to show underage dummies like you that a tall woman who weighs 170lbs is still healthy and not a "hamplanet".

>>10115728
I don't rent, I own the place. Russia.

The most unlolita thing I do is intentionally staying away from short girls.
There seem to be so many entitled bitches who somehow think they own the fashion and are more deserving of it because they're "just as tiny as le superior nipponese lolitas!".
Being short doesn't guarantee that you look better in it, if you don't have the measurements, than it will look just as shitty on you as on a taller lolita. There's nothing japanese about having boobloaf, a brick waist and stumpy legs.
I'm so tired of getting asked "Why do you wear heels?! You're already so tall!". When Mana or some japanese model shows a bit of thigh you don't complain either, so why does a lolita being taller than average get so many panties in a bunch?
I have many short and very underweight non-lolita friends who have zero problem fitting into normie clothes, so quit acting as if tall lolitas are stealing from you, because japanese clothes are supposedly the only thing you can fit...

>>10115740
As an average height person I didn't know such people existed. I love seeing tall lolitas.

>>10115738
ah okay, sorry for the confusion. in the US an apartment that you own is called a condominium. i hope you're able to get your place fixed up!

>>10115738
You’re possibly one of the best speaking/writing Russians I have encountered.

>>10115744
Thanks for clarification! I've heard the word "condominium" in movies, but never bothered to google the difference from "apartment". In Russia we use the same word for both cases.
>>10115745
Thank you anon!

>>10115313
>>10115402

I don't buy stores not stocking below size 2 just because "fatties told them not to". Stores are businesses, and you know what businesses like? Money money money. Not SJW internet points. Plus the answer is so simple. Fat people need clothing, skinny people need clothing. It's so easy to point that out and keep stocking a size 2 because all people need clothes.

Far more likely they stopped stocking size 2 because it just doesn't sell enough to warrant the rack space when they could be stocking size 20 and racking in money.

Which is actually far more worrisome, if they used to stock a size 2, messed with vanity sizing and made it bigger, and now they don't even stock it because nobody is buying it anymore, it does mean everybody seems to be getting fatter... and possibly unhealthier.

>>10115107
>>10115641
Vaping makes it so you don't have to worry about ruining your clothes

>>10115672
>goes from senior year of HS to freshman in college
>no change in activity patterns
that is a change in activity patterns, even if you choose not to notice it. you're in freshman fifteen denial.

I have a shitty type A personality and I always compare the likes on my CoF posts with other lolitas in my comm, especially those I can't stand.
Feels good seeing them get 100< likes on a coord when I easily clear 300.

Tl;Dr I'm a petty ass bitch but I can't help it

>>10115763
I very recently bought a dry herb vape, unfortunately it's not legal in my state yet and I have a hard time finding vape carts.

>>10115761
>possibly
I'm at a loss of words

>>10115767
Idk what type a personality means but I'm sure you can easily help it

>>10115568
>>10115629
>>10115661
>>10115688

Honestly same, I heard enough horror stories. Some of you are some really nasty bitches and I don't want to end up with someones cum stained sweat smelling dress.

Unlike anon, I could give a chance to a new with tags piece if it was my dream dress or something.

>>10115676
i feel the same. online friends have told me to ditch my comm because they're embarrassing and while i don't love all of them its nice to have a day to go out and do activities with other frilly people. i feel bad for basically being two faced though. one girl made a lot of drama, enough to be posted on here, and i hate her but i'm always nice to her in person and try to help her not be an ita.

I have a white cat and a white rabbit, and my wardrobe is full of black, wine, and navy gothic and classic pieces. I pet them and let them sit on my lap anyway, and I just go to town with a lint roller if I’m going to a meet or taking pictures.

I have a rather large social media following (at least large for lolita standards) and whenever my lolita friends call me e-famous I act a bit embarrassed and tell them to stop because it's really not that big of a deal.
The most embarrassing behavior: I REVEL in being called e-famous and take quite a lot of pride in my follower numbers, but I know it would look really conceited, so I pretend I'm not.

>>10115783
I only buy used lolita goods from Japanese second hand sources. Usually the standards on condition are much higher, and disclosure is better, decreasing your chances of getting some wrecked thing listed in ‘good’ condition. Western sellers as a whole, just have lower standards on the condition of used goods.

>>10115096
Not sure what kind of drugs you are referring to but i relate with harder stuff. I'm a part of a diy metal community and we party a little too hard sometimes

>>10115797
Related: I feel like caring about and pursuing a social media following is vain or shallow unless you have something you are actually selling, promoting etc. otherwise it’s just an empty vanity project dedicated to well, your vanity.

>>10115797
Everyone that takes care of his online profile feels the same, most lolitas that go on a public platform are the same

>>10115299
maybe you can have both petite and plus sizing????

>>10115803
That's pretty much it, yeah. Unfortunately, I am pretty vain and feel better than everyone else, while also having some real issues with self worth at the same time. I know this is a problem and I am actively working on it, but having a large follower number at least helps with the low self worth part.

>>10115791
Loving and cherishing cute pets is very Lolita appropriate.

>>10115810
You're not actually hurting anyone, but please remember that your worth as a human being is inviolable and infinite.

However, if you are efamous, you probably do put a lot of time and effort into your presentation, so acknowledgement is really your only reward. With that in mind, it is natural and not at all vain to cherish the fruits of your aesthetic labors.

>>10115650
Same except they're not even sweet, most of them are whiny and annoying and constantly playing the victim in one way or another. My most unlolita thoughts are that, after reading between the lines, I often find myself siding with the evil normies in their stories even if I keep telling myself that people into Jfash should stick together.
One girl meitus the everloving fuck out of her face and body to look smaller and more uguu~ to the point where she’s not even recognizable in any of her profile pics, and often complains that her classmates are too ignorant and uneducated to understand photo editing as an art form. Shopping your obese white self into a kawaii tiny Asian girl is art, now? Another girl apparently wears shironuri to college and then acts like people are persecuting her by asking questions about it. I know what shironuri is and I still don’t understand why someone would wear it to college, but okay.
The worst one always has these stories about encountering people who start bullying her for no reason while she’s just minding her own business, and very occasionally posts to RC or amino about it. It’s funny to see her stories progress from
>some lady at the bus stop looked in my direction today what a bitch
to
>dear RC this week a gang of middle aged women totally ripped my clothes and yelled that I look like a Rococo prostitute omg!! discuss

I mean I snicker at their ita coordinates too, but mostly I snicker at their ita behavior. I initially accepted their requests because they’re in my comm but now I mostly keep them around for amusement. If anything I feel bad for not feeling bad. At least I never post them to the ita thread.

>>10115380
>>10115237
Shitty flats have no support, sure. That's not the kind I meant, guess I should have clarified more.

>>10115382
Aravon & Naturalizer sometimes have decent styles for normie and office wear, but there's nothing that really looks right for lolita, especially sweet.

>>10115236
>the embarrassment of changing them
Your projection is wild. I never care when girls do this at meets. I don't myself but I would rather they not fuck up their feet and have shoes that match their coord for photos.

>>10115195
So you waste your money to be reseller just so someone you like gets a dress?
You're a fucking gatekeeper.

>>10115252
...its a drawing

>>10115348
No one cares that you're skinny. You're getting replies because this is fucking bait material.

>>10115363
>nobody itt called themselves "sm0l" til the angry fatties showed up
You're right. Anons were just whining about how petite they are and how the horrible fatties are gonna steal "their" fashion.

>>10115826
>reseller
Anon clearly said she gives the clothes she buys a good home herself, please work on your reading comprehension.

>>10115836
What like gifts? Her comm must love her!

Oh wait. That isn't realistic.

>>10115359
is this the short length pink camo skirt that was on closetchild over a year ago??? cos I wanted to snag it so bad but it got snatched up quick (and it would have actually fit me, I'd coord it and fully appreciate it..I collect the punkuma/camo pieces)

I'm going to find where you live and give that piece of fabric the love it deserves

>>10115252
It's obviously at an angle, anon.

>>10115838
...No, as in keeping the clothes, wearing them and taking good care of them. Are you retarded?

>>10115826
Angry fatty detected, kek. Those two anons are doing gods work.

>>10115672
Your metabolism doesn't drastically change in a year in your early 20s without medical issues you fucking spaz.
You know, I tell people this stuff because I was so relieved to find out it was a myth after all my friends made it sound like it natural to blimp up by thirty and you can't do anything about it. I try to tell people it's a myth so they don't fall into this trap of thinking they can't control it and don't watch their eating. But most of the time all I hear back is "b-but I'm different! I'm special" people just want to make excuses.

>>10115697
are you retarded? you realize the average height in japan is around 5"2? of course we're not talking about tall girls

>>10115740
My best friend is about 5'8, tall where i am. She always looks better than me in lolita because she has such striking legs.
I'm sorry you've had such a bad experience with shorties. a lot of people are way too proud of things they had no part in.

>>10115363
did i say anyone in this thread called themselves smol

>>10115673
This isn't too bad. I'm waiting to build my wardrobe before I wear it out. I don't want to wear the same two coords all the time.

>>10115843
Why would you want dresses you don't really love? Just to make sure fatties don't wear them?? Seems ridiculous.

>>10115846
>kek
You're an outdated bait monger who is taking the easy side of the argument.

>>10115863
Did you even read the original post?

>>10115865
I think I'll start outbidding fatties on purpose too, sounds fun.

>>10115839
No it's one of the black and white ones that has a normal looking camoflague pattern on it not the Punkuma one. Honestly I think one of my biggest hesitations when it comes to selling it is that I don't want some cheap ita to buy it and create some coord atrocities because it's not worth more than like $40. I really like it and I just want it to be properly appreciated and not bought just because it's cheap!

>>10115866
>Luckily, most of the items I like, they're just not usually the first choice of things for me.
>Usually not the first choice
Sounds like they're eating their money.

>>10115867
You don't have the bank for it. You are all talk.

I posted my dream dress in the thread a few years back and noticed two different gulls suddenly wanted it. I buy it every time it pops up out of spite, even if its not my preferred colorway (which I'm still looking for).

>>10115766
>>10115850
There wasn’t though, I went to community college part time with no meal plan, was still living at home. I went to a really small highschool and never participated in gym class. Now I eat under 1000 cal a day because surprise! I’m a short adult who doesn’t need the calories I was eating as a teenager going through puberty. At the very least you guys could back up your claims with a source instead of calling me a spaz.

>>10115887
Sad. Try to remember a time when you were just excited to find out when others were interested in lolita. Those people share your love for the same dress. They found something they dream about thanks to you. You could at least link them to the wrong colourways or cuts so maybe they'll buy that and stop looking for the one you want. Unless they're one of those people that posts their entire wishlist that keeps getting longer, if that's the case then fuck them.

I like to think I’m fashionable but I wear the same pants and maybe 5 cardigans every single day. It Used to be a work thing but I find myself doing it on weekends now too. So much money spent on cute clothes from Japan I barely wear. I don’t know where my motivation went.

>>10115892
One was a wishlister, the other vanished after a few threads. The one time I didn't buy it, Rainies did.

>>10115876
So you're not just fat and angry but also poor?

>>10115892
Yeah, but cgl also had a sense of identity (I can't find a better word for it, sorry) back then and sort of solidarity towards "being a gull". There was a silent etiquette that got completely lost once FB, tumblr and others flooded the board. Now there's a bunch of people who only lurk the DD and BST thread to leech, who otherwise hate every single part of cgl and don't give a fuck.

>>10115887
This is why you don't post in the DD thread when your dress isn't already popular. I never posted mine for fear of others suddenly catching on. I finally was able to buy it after 3 years by finding it myself.

>>10115888
www.self.com/story/how-metabolism-changes-as-you-age/

https://www.womenshealthmag.com/weight-loss/a19965725/how-your-metabolism-changes-as-you-age/

>According to the American Council on Exercise, your basal metabolic rate drops roughly one to two percent per decade.

A gain of 20lbs is a lot more than 2%. I have seen the number that it slows down up to 4% which still doesn't account for 20lbs gain. If you ignore the hysterical "metabolism slows!" spiel and look at the actual numbers it is a small amount over years and decades, not like 25% in one year. That's ridiculous.

>>10115761
I had to buy a dress for my brother's wedding and the department store didn't carry size 4 and below in stores. They weren't out of stock - the size was actually "online only." I had to order size 4, 2, and 0 to actually see what fit. Surprise, I was a size 0. I'm 27. First time in my life I've ever been a size 0. I'm not even underweight. Thank god I could return the ones that didn't fit.

Thin women are being pushed out of department stores and my size is becoming extinct. US stores stock what sells and order fewer quanities of anything "outside the norm." Sometimes I wish I could time-travel back to the 60's where my weight would have been average and everyone else would have trouble finding clothes. I'm angry at the current trend because it shouldn't be so hard to find formal clothes for things like weddings and interviews that don't look like trashbags on me, when I'm a healthy weight.

>>10115919
I don’t know why you linked that article only to single out that one quote when admits that metabolism does slow due to other reasons besides your BMR dropping.

>To add insult to injury, during your thirties, you aren’t producing as much human growth hormone as before (no more growth spurts for you!), which also leads to a dip in your metabolic rate, she says.

This is likely what happened to me, since I gained most of my weight still in my teens instead of mid 20s like most people are now. I wasn’t in puberty anymore, I was done growing.

>>10115923
You mean back when fast fashion wasn't a thing yet. A lot of clothes fit like shit even if you do get the right size.

>>10115929
Those things are accounted for in the 2%. You are just making excuses. You can look into it more and read some studies or you can keep making excuses to make yourself feel better, your call.
I have no investment, I weigh the same I did in high school at 30 while everyone else blimps up and pretends it's outside of their control, so I just look better in comparison to other 30 year olds. I don't have good genes either, my mom and sister made the same excuses and gained. Maybe in 5 more years my metabolism will die but more likely I'll still be here in five years calling people out on this bullshit like I was five years ago lol.

>>10115830
And what makes you trust that they chose quality shoes for this experiment?

>>10115718
so basically you buy dresses that smaller lolitas could fit in so you can hoard them and play dress-up with dress forms alone in your house? thats fucking weird, anon.
if you spend time losing weight like you spend money on shit you cant wear, you might be able to fit into something.

>>10115937
Congratulations, I really genuinely hope you stay the same size and never have to experience what it’s like to gain weight as a woman and instantly be treated like garbage by men and the internet.

>inb4 lose weight fatty

I am back down to 120, my body still doesn’t look the same as it did when I was a teenager, my weight distribution is different and I have to barely eat anything to even attempt to maintain this weight. It fucking sucks.

>>10115834
They already have. Look at modern AP and Baby.

>>10115943
I did gain weight, it was because I was taking in more calories than I was expending so I stopped doing that

>>10115943
>I have to barely eat anything
Why not exercise?

>>10115893
Currently same, I'm blaming the winter: my work is really bad at keeping things warm and me and the other woman in the same area have had to layer up on sweaters/start keeping our jackets on. It's hard to dress nice when everything around you is freezing.

My sin is I harshly judge people who make online WTBs for now (mostly) dead classic brands. The ones that post a blanket "looking for any/all Mary Magdalene pieces" really grind my gears; scour the back corners of the internet like the rest of us. It already isn't easy to find pieces.

>>10115674
How did you not get anything spilled on you? Frat houses are grody.

>>10115937
>being 30
>feeling so smug about being skinny - "unlike all those lazy fatty-chans!"
>plans to still brag about her superior body and "call out others" on 4chan in 5 years
Congrats, you're a true winner. I aspire to be like you once I'm old(er).

Did it ever cross anybody's mind here that the gulls who don't shit on or who defend fat people and therefore get labeled "fat and jelly" themselves aren't even overweight...?
Maybe I just don't find any joy in insulting strangers and couldn't care less that somebody isn't attractive.
They don't hurt you. So why that blind hate and rage towards them? Chill out a bit.

>>10115139
You know now that you mention it, my only couple bosyline dresses have withstood six year of pottery making and Dave &Buster's meetups

>>10115740
It sounds like they have the female equivalent to 'short guy syndrome'.
I wonder if there is a lolita version of this too, or just short girls in general?

>>10115767
>>10115797
I have a large social media following for a music page, and a large following on FB. I posted on CoF and didn't even clear 100, when on my personal account I got 200+. Made me feel awful, because I know the coord was totally fine. It made me cry honestly, because I didn't think I was ita, and I was wearing brand. Was it that forgettable?

>>10115961
short retard here, im really self conscious and not ok with how short i am but i dont understand why other short people brag about it. its made me more self-conscious and extra careful of how i present myself because of people like this.
on behalf of short people who arent all HEY IM WALKIN HEAH about their size, im sorry anons.

>>10115948
I do exercise but that’s a horrible way to lose weight, weight loss is 90% diet. You just need to not eat. Being short sucks, my BMR is 1400, so to lose I can’t go above 1000 cal at the very most.

>>10115957
If you defend fat people while not being fat, then you're an honorary fat.

>>10115961
I had a short girl make comments about my heels. She was apparently comfortable with her height and couldn't see the reason to wear heels. I just like how they look. I don't care how tall I am (I'm average height). She would not get it and thought the only purpose was to be taller.

>>10115964
Same anon, I know better than to place my self worth in likes. But when I see straight up itas getting around the same amount in CoF, it makes me feel like I'm doing something wrong.

>>10115803

Yeah no shit it's there for ego. We all have ways of stroking our ego, and if it's getting fake points on a website designed for it I guess more power to them. Personally I like getting to the point where people can take inspiration from me. I get a lot of questions how to style things and I really like helping people out.

>>10115964
I feel like I had the same feeling when my likes dropped like a rock on my IG account. I wondered what was going wrong. It's all the algorithm, and I absolutely hate it. It makes it harder for unknowns to get well deserved recognition for a coordinate. I miss the LJ days, and even the tumblr days since there was an obvious option to go chronologically.

>>10115964
>It made me cry
Anon it's time to take a break.

>>10115980
this. i don't understand why people who aren't fat defend fat people? for sjwpoints? but why do it on fucking 4chan of all places?

>>10115993
i love it when seagulls have to be confronted with the idea of basic human decency

and your comment can be flipped just as easily
>i dont understand why people who aren't fat complain about fat people on the internet? is it for edgelord points?

people secure in their size and weight don't have to tear others down on the internet for no reason. when people brag about how skinny they are, it just makes me think that they know they have no other interesting qualities outside of being thin.

>>10115993
Why is anyone posting here at all?

>>10115980
This is so fucking childish. You clearly just want to be right and "win" the argument. You might as well have said "I'm rubber and you're glue" for fucks sake.

>>10115997
t. fatty

>>10115993
I don't understand why you hate on fat people. Even going so far as to try and stop them from getting dresses. Why? For edgy points? Sadism?
It's a waste of time, you have no reason to spend your freetime typing "reee fatty-chan", I really don't get it. It's mean and pathetic.

>>10116000
ok ana-chan, whatever you say

>>10116001
because they are gross, obesity is a disease, and it is a natural reaction to be adverse to diseased people

>>10115988
>>10115990
I think I'm too stressed out about other things and it's get to me. I'll probably just keep the goal of enjoying the fashion and only care about my own opinions, rather than what others think. Typing it out does make me feel a bit stupid on why do I even care.

>>10116003
except ive seen girls as thin as 110 pounds be called fatties on cgl, so don't pretend its done out of concern for obesity or disease

>>10115364
That's literally my exact height and weight and I've never had trouble finding clothes in the women's section. Where are you looking?

>>10116003
>typical concern trolling.

>>10116010
i'm not concerned for them i just want them away from me. i think it's very interesting how quick you fatties are to crawl out of the woodwork like roaches to defend your poor lifestyle choices.

>>10115945
You're truly a fucking moron if you really believe this. Pic related.
Quit crying you fucking twig. No one has taken anything from you, stupid.

>>10116011
And here I am, not fat, and you are insisting that I am.
you are trolling and no one is buying your dumb gimmick anymore.

>>10116011
but you're the one seeking out fatties to reeee about online and defending spending actual dollars just to outbid so called "fatties" in auctions.

just accept the fact that lolita is a chubby girl fashion at heart. if you want to be surrounded by skinnies then go join some high fashion community.

>>10116014
>I-I'm totally not fat!

Prove it. Because I really have a hard time believing people who aren't fat care this much about fatties to spend ages reeing about the meanie anas on 4chan.

>>10116001
>Why do people in an aesthetically pleasing hobby hate aesthetically unpleasing things?

>>10116017
not until you post your totes skinny flawless figure, anon

PSA: Fat people, you will always be a joke to normal sized people. Stop getting upset over it and start doing some cardio if you don't want to be a gross joke.

>>10115826
I was the OP saying I buy old school dresses from people I know won't fit into them. They WONT FIT. To me, older lolita is a piece of history. It should be cherished and worn and loved, not sit stuffed in a closet. These are things I'd wear if I had, though usually not my first choice for myself. but you know what? I have fallen in love with just about every piece I have bought this way, and every single one gets worn at least monthly (I'm a daily old school lolita)

>ITT bored housewives sperging over other people's weight in the hopes that they'll change someone's mind

Spoiler alert: it's a futile task.

Go do a needlepoint project or something useful ffs

>>10116018
>thinking lolita is aesthetically pleasing to 99% of the population and that we don't all look like fucking ridiculous attention seekers

>>10116011
See >>10115957
Also, it's not like you can see fatties right now. You're likely just sitting alone at home right now. So there are none of them around you right now. It's quite easy to stay away from them. So why go online to spend your time talking about them?

And like others already said: it's not like gulls are calling obese people fatties, but rather nearly everybody...

>>10116023
>everyone who doesn't like a disease is a bored housewife

Nice strawman

>>10116027
People with jobs usually have better things to worry about.

>>10116028
>people with jobs usually have better things to worry about than disease

Most people, especially those with jobs, worry about their health anon.

>tfw thread has devolved into shittalking fatties and anas yet again

Makes me wish for more fetish anons tbqh. This is way more stupid and boring.

>>10116015
>just accept the fact that lolita is a chubby girl fashion at heart.
Is that why most measurements cater to a thin frame? Sure, AP got really generous with their sizing over the last few years but in general that statement is retarded and I don't know why it keeps getting blindly parroted.

>>10115863
I am the OP of that confession, and I pretty much love everything old school. All the items I have saved from fatties (who wouldn't even be able to wear them, btw...) I have kept myself, and have grown to really love. All of them get worn at least monthly, usually more as I am a daily lolita and I like experimenting with my wardrobe. I even went from my comfort zone of wearing only black or black and white, to now also wearing reds, sax, baby pink, white.

Serious question, why do fat people smell so bad? Ive purchased a lot of brand over the years and every single time I've gotten a piece that has BO lingering I look at the persons profile and it's a fat person who sold it to me.

>>10116025
>completely missing the point
I'm not talking about the population, I'm talking about the hobby. Read properly.

>>10116036
fat people sweat more than normal people and they constantly have a thick stank to them which they get used to so they don't know they smell like dirty underwear

>>10116018
>Why do people in an aesthetically pleasing hobby hate aesthetically unpleasing things?
I don't understand why calling anybody above 100lbs is considered completely ok, but pointing out that a pretty face is just as important gets a bunch of panties in a bunch. Like whenever somebody dares to call cgl's queen Tyler ugly, people are triggered.

>>10116032
I'd say more AP, BTSSB and Meta have shirring compared to non-shirred pieces. Current AP pieces are just catering to the oversize trend thats hit the wave in japan and ironically, only looks good on extremely thin, flat chested frames.

>>10116017
I mean, you can see the same kind of behavior on /fit/
I do lolita and cosplay so no way in hell am I posting myself to 4chan like a dumb ass just so you can be satisfied. And let's be real, even though I'm not fat, you would still call me fat because that's your trolling gimmick. All you do is just say everyone who doesn't agree with you is fat.

>>10116020
>more concern trolling

>>10116026
thank you.

>>10116031
bait is bait and cgl just rehashes the same topics again and again. If it's not sex in lolita, then it's being fat, and if it's not about fatties, it's about trans or sissies.

>>10116041
>I PROMISE IM NOT FAT EVERYONE I PROMOSE DID I MENTION IM NOT FAT

>>10115979
I'm 5'9" with a shit thyroid and my BRM is the same, it fucking sucks. I maintain 160 eating 1200, and yeah I've experimented with upping workouts and cals, everything.. it freaking sucks because I also love food and eating, but I care more about maintaining (realistically I'd like to be 140 but I'd have to drop to 800 or less probably and yeah.. not going there again)

>>10116018
>Why do people in an aesthetically pleasing hobby hate aesthetically unpleasing things?
I don't understand why calling anybody above 100lbs 'obese' is considered completely ok, but pointing out that a pretty face is just as important gets a bunch of panties in a bunch. Like whenever somebody dares to call cgl's queen Tyler ugly, people are triggered.

>>10116039
>Like whenever somebody dares to call cgl's queen Tyler ugly, people are triggered.
Well that's because they consider her one of their own because she too will take part in the bashing of other's just like a gull would.

>>10116041

Personally while the sugar baby story gets old, I kind of liked the more interesting ones like above with the japanese sub. But I'm a trash degenerate in secret so I understand my interests aren't everyone else's.

>>10115997
>people brag about how skinny they are, it just makes me think that they know they have no other interesting qualities outside of being thin.
Just like people who never shut the fuck up about being body positive, or gender queer, etc.

>>10116044
>160
According to cgl you're not only an obese fatty-chan, but nearly hamplanet territory...

>>10116044
:( shitty BMR gang unite. the only time i notice any actual weightloss is if im too sick and barely eat anything all day, so less than 1000, but i love food and i need to eat so being stuck at 120 is what i have to deal with, even though id rather be 100lbs, i cant imagine how hard id have to try to get down to that, probably an ana-chan diet.

>>10116036
I think, as a former fatty, that it comes from just being lazy and not very self aware. If you can't love yourself enough to take care of your body, you don't usually take care of anything else.

>>10116049
body positivity is 90% thin to average girls with hardly any chub talking about how they were self conscious about their minor love handles.

>>10115997

There was an anon in another thread who debunked the myth that bullies have low self esteem. It's a personality issue. Telling yourself that all gulls tear down others because muh self esteem is an outright lie to make people feel better, particularly the bullied with low self esteem.

Just leave the site, and I don't mean it as 'leave our sekrit klub hurr' I mean 'leave because it's fucking toxic.' It's the last place to be talking about human decency.

>>10116045
>I don't understand why calling anybody above 100lbs 'obese' is considered completely ok,
Literally who said that?

>>10116050
I know I'm a chub.

>>10116043
>IM SO SMOL FAT PEOPLE BOTHER ME SO MUCH WHEN I SEE FATTIES I THROW UP EXTRA HARD SO I CAN STAY THIN BEAUTIFUL RORITA

>>10116027
Nice counter-strawman.
You've turned 'people with too much time getting mad and doing nothing useful' into 'disease haters are housewives'
Let's get back to people wasting their time thanks.

>>10116055
I speak from experience as a seasoned gull, that some of it does come from jealousy and low self esteem and to pretend otherwise is just denial. it can also be jealousy and insecurity combined with a rotten personality. it can be a need for attention, it can be loneliness. i lurk lolcow too, and i lurk the threads on here, most anons in the feels or vent threads are insecure, with body dysmorphia issues, issues at home, issues finding a relationship, issues making friends.

anonymous communities are inherently a beacon for people who are a little broken or sad.

>>10116041
>>10116046
If you dislike it so much and can't take it, why are you here? Just leave cgl, your whining only makes things worse.

>>10116056
Honestly, it used to happen in CoF threads a lot but hasn't really come up until someone started baiting this thread. I come to cgl pretty often and I have not seen fat bait in a long time and there's even a fat girl getting a defense squad in the ita thread because her coord is fine.

>>10116059

unrelated but this coord contains most if not all the trends i hate

>>10116056
you must be a newbie, because cgl in 2009 everyone was fat on cgl unless they were ana

>>10116063
I'm actually sick with stomach flu and lost about 5 lbs in the last 3 days. The only thing I can eat right now are saltines and I can drink small sips of water and have been trying to drink gatorade on advice from my doctor.
This place is amusing when you can't get out of bed.

Thank god this thread will finally start auto sagin.

All my brand has been bought with money that men have given me. Not even in a sexual way or anything, I just seem to attract guys online who like giving me money, I don't get it. It's super rare I even post my face, mostly I just post retarded stuff about my hobbies (programming, cyber security, plants, glitching, rarely and occasionally lolita, baking/cooking). This has caused me to meet some long term friends who end up giving me money pretty regularly as gifts. Years ago when I first met one of them, we used to game together a lot, and I actually fell in love with him, but he didn't want anything with me, which is cool. He eventually went away and we didn't see each other for a while, but he does still pop in maybe 4 times a month and sends me money and wants to hear about my life.

Tbh, I think a lot of them see me as a 'daughter' figure, despite me being older than all of them so far. They have never said this to me, but they do act like a father would. I don't mind it desu, I like being spoiled and I love not having to spend my money on brand. Plus, I had a bad childhood with a bunch of neglect, so having a bunch of "father"ish men around is really nice. I like it. I'm also happy that it's not sexual.

>>10116064
Yeah, I have that impression too. Other than the small low quality "lol u sound fat" comment I haven't seen serious derailing for quite a while.

>>10116067
I've started browsing cgl regularly in 2010 and I don't remember calling 100 lbs people fat unless it was very obvious funposting or "has she gained weight??" posts. And that's still 9/10 years ago. I doubt that anon is butthurt enough to still cling to stuff that happened this long ago.

>>10116071

I am 5'8 and have 143 lbs so will never be a cute lolita and I own 2 dresses I can't fit into them and just keep becouse I love them

>>10115797
I always pity people who think they’re efamous with 20k followers. It’s hilarious and even moreso when they act uppity at first, then flip 180 and start kissing my ass after finding out I have 20x as many followers as them.

>>10116073
I only became a lolita in 2015, which is the same time I started coming here and the fat argument was pretty common back then. It's calmed down A LOT since then though.
But you still see Voldie being called fat every now and then but no one takes the bait because it's so fucking obvious that it's bait.

>>10116032
Because that actually was the case. At lolita fashion's peak, gyaru was also popular. Gyaru was the thin girl fashion. In case you haven't noticed, the silhouette of lolita fashion is pretty generous in the hip and waist area since it's not a form fitting fashion. The big boobs not fitting complaint is a western complaint as the majority of japanese women have small boobs.
But take a look at the lolitafashion hashtag on insta, you'll see the majority are chubby.

On a side note, AP's sizing has been getting roomier in not just basic sizing, but dress length and shoulder size.

>>10116045
No one calls "over 100lb" obese. The people who get called fat are overweight/obese. Overweight people go "oh at least I'm not a hamplanet at 300lb," while inching towards 25 BMI people go "oh at least I'm not overweight."
Get over it, none of you look cute in lolita by being fat.

>>10116074
I hope you can find people like this, anon! I didn't even make it seem like I wanted money or anything, just started talking to these people either through games or social media and became friends. Just be yourself, talk about your interests and hobbies, and maybe they will find you like they did me!

>>10116077
are you a lolita with that many followers or a cosplayer?

>>10115980
I'd ask how you could be this stupid, but this is 4chan(el)...

>>10116079
>But take a look at the lolitafashion hashtag on insta, you'll see the majority are chubby.
I follow this tag and have not seen this at all??

>>10115993
>people who display empathy are sjw
are you a sociopath by any chance?

I wish the rest of the world would take a page out of Japans book and make it illegal to have a certain waist size.

>>10116093
that's not a real thing.
As long as Japan loves McD's, you'll need to find other clothes to wear, ana chan.

>>10116043
>>10116059
being this triggered

>>10116100
Murrica should've been stopped long ago.

>>10116064
The serious derailing gets deleted because anons report the bait like they're supposed to.
just like i'm doing here.

>>10116108
Way too late for that. But if you're at it, report the bait munching fatties too.

>>10115673
Seriously, just start wearing it out, anon. When I first started over a decade ago I wasn't really... shy to do it, but it did make me feel weird because I was used only wearing trashy goth clothes. I was definitely more punk than cute frilly girl. But I got so many nice reactions that it really upped me confidence in wearing something I wanted to wear but wasn't used to. We all have to start somewhere. Just do it!

>>10116013
>>10116013
>Bust : 90 cm ( 35.43 inch )
>Waist : 71 cm ( 27.95 inch )

I don't know where you're from, but that's still fat for Japan.

>>10116108
Announcing a report is against the rules

>>10116146
To you, ana chan.
Most Japnese are on the fast food train already. they're getting bigger because that's what happens. Find other clothes or learn how to alter lolita to fit you better and quit crying.

>>10116175
23% of japanese women are underweight. Keep cherrypicking your arguments.

>>10115823
Changing your shoes so it looks good in photos is costumey as fuck. I'd instantly lose my respect if I saw someone do it.

>>10116182
God forbid someone have matching shoes...

>>10116175
The pure unfiltered delusion, wew lad.

>>10115964
>>10115987
You both sound crazy to me. Go to a therapist to fix your self esteem.

>>10116196
You can have matching shoes that fit and aren't bad for your feet, but I guess those people don't care about lolita enough to invest in good shoes. They just wear it for the picture.

I bake a lot of weed brownies and cookies
I don't like smoking because of all the old obvious reasons, lung health, teeth yellowing, the smell, etc
But that said, I've basically been high non-stop for the last four years
Only a couple of girls in my comm know, and both are cool with it, and one actually likes to get a couple of treats from me every now and then
But every now I feel real guilty about being a degenerate

Also I think it's cute when people get two pairs of the same shoe in different colors, and mix and match them

>>10115941
It’s not weight that needs to be lost. I have a low BMI because I go to the gym 5-6 days a week. I have a healthy diet and work as a physical therapist. I simply can’t get smaller then a 18. It’s my money and I can do what I want with it. I won’t fit the dresses and I’m perfectly okay with it. I’m heathy and fit. Just awkwardly bulky for the fashion. Is it hoarding? Yeah. But it’s also a hobby. Some people like to keep their hobbies for them selves and not share it.

>>10116213
I don't have the issue personally. But some people just don't have the pain tolerance and have to switch shoes.
Theres nothing costumey about wearing it on a regular basis.

>>10116239
I know but the shoes they switch to don't have to look bad with lolita

>>10116231
>But every now I feel real guilty about being a degenerate
Do you live somewhere that it's not legal? Most girls in my comm smoke or use marijuana in some form and no one looks down on it even if they don't themselves.

>>10116241
Whatever. You sound judgemental as fuck. I will help someone change their shoes.

>>10116242
Well, Illinois, so it's legal for cancer patients and people like that who really need it
Maybe I'm just too worried about what other people think of me
I'm really glad you said that, thank you anon

>>10116243
Their ugly shoes that they chose over beautiful shoes

>>10115988
Same, anon, same. I know it's trivial and there are way more important things to worry about, but my brain wants to go "something is wrong. Must look for a solution." And knowing that sometimes with IG it's out of our control and it won't get better no matter what we do doesn't sit well. I used to have steady growth and good engagement, but it also took a nosedive for me and never recovered, even though my posts were improving. It made me feel a lot worse than I'd like to admit. I don't know, I guess it's just nice to know I'm reaching people in some way, even if it's just empty validation from internet strangers.

>>10116231
>Only a couple of girls in my comm know,
Literally everyone can tell from your eyes and behaviour

>>10116235
>low BMI
>gym 5-6 days a week
>healthy diet
>can only fit into 18

>>10116249
You don't get red eyes or "chink" eyes from edibles. Shut your uneducated ass up.

>>10116247
>Their ugly shoes
Yikes.

>>10116249
Well I mean no one else had ever said anything about it and I'm always invited to the inner circle's meetups

>>10116077
K8 is that you?

>>10116256
Don't listen to them. They don't know the first thing about edibles.

>>10116247
This person has to be a troll, lmao, this is just hilarious at this point

>>10116077
20k is a lot for lolita, not for cosplayers though. Lolita is a lot more niche.

>>10115107
ditto, after a long day in frills i don't bother to change and just lay around smoking out of a pink chillum

i'm pretty sure 50% of my comm are undercover stoners. i wish we'd just out with it, make some brownies, and have a grand old time

>>10116252
You obviously don’t go to the gym and actually work on muscle mass do you. Someone with muscle mass can bulk up quite a bit and measure to the same thing as someone who hasn’t. Broad shoulders and hips do also affect your sizing. And someone who does upper body workouts would have broad shoulders due to muscle gain. Depending on their body shape, they could also have less hour glass waist and more square again to muscle mass. Not saying that anon isn’t making shit up to feel better about them selves, but it is quite possible that someone fits a size 18 and be perfectly healthy.

>>10115657
Honestly same. It's really hard to explain, "it's an aesthetic thing rather than a gender thing" is the best I can do.

>>10115671
Same, anon. I try really hard but I'm a bad housekeeper and the places I've been living are kinda crap to start with. I've been considering hiring a cleaner and a decluttering session or two but... My brand money...

I bid on things I semi want, panic when the bidding is about to end, and laugh when I get outbid. Rinse and repeat (it’s been a year since I’ve won anything I’ve bid on without BIN.)

>>10115987
Maybe you have bad taste if someone you consider ita has the same amount of likes. Consider how you can improve and set aside what you think looks good, analyze what's popular

>>10116075
But you’re not even overweight at that height??? Anorexia is a bitch

>>10116077
Shut the fuck up you ugly smelly bag of farts K8

>>10116303
delusion

>>10116075
you're fine anon, just buy pieces with shirring. your height probably makes it harder but there are many dresses that would fit you

>>10115671
Seconding why the landlord doesn't take care of windows and repairs?

>>10116274
They seem to be ESL too.
Why is it that most trolls seem to be either ESL or underage?

>>10116274
I hope they're real and in my comm, so I can annoy them with my shoe-changing ways forever.

>>10115871
aaah that sounds so beautiful. It must be one of the original release camo skirts then. Sorry for my outburst, I was just super upset that I missed out on one of my dream items. You cherish that piece of lolita history and keep it away from the grubby hands of itas!

>>10116077

>acting like you're hot shit for believing you're popular on a website that profits off of the illusion of popularity

You're just as bad as the people you make fun of. Good job.

>>10116248

Agreed. I think I was less upset in the tumblr days because it seemed fairer. In the chronological order, people were forced to look at your photo, and while there were still efamous lolitas, relative unknowns could get hundreds to thousands of likes and you know it's getting viewed by a large audience. Nowadays, between the tags being messed up and everything relying on an algorithm to get seen by even people who follow you, it's ridiculous.

I also know I shouldn't base everything on likes. I've thought of starting a blog because I know it likely won't be very popular, but it would be a way to hone both my writing skills and take my focus off the more toxic aspects of the community.

>>10116303
I do and I know that, but they'd literally had to be build like an actual man with fridge shoulders to only fit size 18 with those criterias and even then it sounds ridiculous to asume they are low bmi. Something isn't right with at least one of those statements.

>>10116393
do it anon!! I love reading lolita blogs, especially lesser-known ones. They seem more real and less focused on creating a likable persona

>>10115316
I don't mind if people get a piece to use, but some fatties honestly just hoard brand and never ever make any progress to weight loss.

>>10115377
I'm the OP of the post where I said I buy old school pieces from fatties, and I'm not a short skinny girl at all. I'm 5'10" and 145. I've actually got thunder thighs but my bust and waist are really small comparatively. Keep telling yourself that everyone saying fatties shouldn't hoard dresses they can't wear all all "ana-chans".

I actually once weighed 330 pounds but kicked my ass and lost weight so I could wear what I love. You can do it anon, I believe in you.

>>10116410
Maybe they are a man.

>>10115677
>>10115702
>>10115860
>>10116119
Thank you anons, I'm feeling less awkward now.

>>10116428
you have so much gross loose skin, but at least you can hide it with your ugly old school shit

>>10116457

Anon, are you okay?

>>10115776

It could also mean less aneroxics, or people getting bigger in general (Japan in particular had a few studies where the younger generation just has access to better nutrients so some of the girls do end up being bigger overall, not fatter).

I mean, we're talking the smaller sizes not having enough people buying them, if that population moves up another couple of sizes they aren't necessarily unhealthy.

The biggest sizes getting more stock, becoming bigger, and selling out is a seperate topic altogether.

>>10116429
I think people forget that there are actually men who dress in this fashion and are not sissies.

>>10116393
>mfw while people have been b'awwing about the IG algorithm, i'm doing better than ever
it's really concerning how emotional you all get over a game

>>10116492

I'm sure that's how you'll feel a few months when IG changes their algorithm again.

>>10116500
only ugly people need to blame the algorithm for their personal failure

>>10116345
As I explained to the other anon, I own this place and should have said "condominium" instead of "apartment". I do not have a landlord to fix things for me. English is not my first language, I'm sorry.

>>10115766
I get WAY more activity in now than I ever did because of my job, and I also worked in fast food ages 17-21, and I only started gaining pounds this past year at 24. I jog now, I do sports for fun, and I eat way less and slightly better than I did before. I suddenly put on around 15 lbs out of nowhere. Any magical, not-backed-up-at-all explanations for me?

>>10116492
>emotional over a game.
Posting to social media isn’t a game though? Are you from this board? IG means Instagram. Not in game.

>>10115702
>Did you never try to sell it within your comm?
They were the ones who flaked. LM didn't get any offers, even. I went to meet one girl to exchange it in person because she worked near where I was seeing a friend that day. She never showed. Messaged her repeatedly and got no reply. Three days later, said she forgot and didn't want the dress anyway.

Another girl showed up, but decided she didn't want it after all, and tried to convince me to go to lunch with her instead.

>>10116253
Yes you do lol

>>10116253
>>10116269
You get red eyes from THC, not from the smoke. Maybe it's been so long since you've seen your normal eyes you don't notice it anymore.

>>10116562
>posting to social media isn't a game

>>10116239
>buying shoes that you know you won't be able to wear out and about
>wearing shoes that hurt your feet so bad you have to change them
>caring more about photos than how you look irl
>not costumey

ok

I buy old brand skirts and replace the elastic because I need that last cm or 2 to make it comfortable. I'd never resell them like that, and certainly not without informing the other person. It makes al lot of those tiny skirts available, which is really nice.
But that's my "altering burando" sin.

>>10116764
I do alter skirts too, but I simply cut out the elastic because they fit me best without any. Judging on how slow the second hand market is, I'll hardly ever sell them, altered or not.

>>10116256
You'd be amazed how much gals gossip, and never say a word to your face.
I've had people have a serious problem with maybe something I did, said or others have said I did (if its fun/exciting to talk about, ppl a lot of the time don't care if it is or isnt true), and not have a clue until maybe an outside asks or tells you.
On the other side, sometimes groups are surviving off of gossip about 1 or 2 people within the social circle, but they're always too scared to actually confront them.
>>10116253
its how I know an edible has hit though

>>10117064
>its how I know an edible has hit though
You'd have to do like 50g or something. Most dispensaries where I live sell 5g individually in packs. So you can get 20 5g gummies in a pack, or 10g chocolates, etc. Doing more than 2 or 3 of those is going to make it so the person doesn't even show up to the meet unless they were being truly dumb and did them on the way there.
Not to mention you might not know if someone does them if they don't do them before meets.

>>10116619
>Maybe it's been so long since you've seen your normal eyes you don't notice it anymore.
This is so fucking misinformed. I don't even get red eyes from smoking but ok you are clearly an expert.

>>10117152
That's clearly sarcasm anon. Looking up THC + red eyes + edibles is only a few clicks away so we all know who's right. It's not you though.

>>10116724
I hope you're in my comm and get bothered when I help hold someone up to change their shoes.

>>10117154
>it happens to some people so it must happen to everyone
Quit reading blogs and believing shit on the internet.

>>10117156
>>10116253
>it never happens to me so it never happens to anyone! Science is wrong!

>>10117155
Nayrt
It doesn't bother me because it just makes my coord better in comparison, especially when they carry their shoes around in a separate normie bag. It also reminds me to be grateful I don't have enormous feet, and fit normal shoe sizes so I can buy cute shoes that are also comfortable. I'm sure those other people are also not that bothered, they just feel secondhand embarrassment for a few seconds and move on.

>>10115893
>>10115950
I'm doing the same. When I started out at my work, there were usually 3 other people in the office every day, sometimes up to 5. I used to dress snappy (normie officewear with some quirky or vintage pieces or sometimes lolita pieces).

It's been almost a year. In the meantime, two people got fired, one left for a better job, the owner sold the other franchise he owned and on top of that it's slow season. I'm alone in the office most days, and some days it's been -30 celsius outside. The office is cold and I often end up draping a blanket over myself. I wear fleece lined leggings, a skirt, and a hoodie most days to work now.

I miss cute clothes weather.

>>10116509

Only ugly people need to derive self worth from social media.

I almost never, ever wear makeup even when I’m wearing a full coord out.

If I was attending a meet (I have yet to attend one, just by sheer bad luck of timing as I travel for months at a time depending on work and school), I would probably make an attempt (no more than mascara/eyeliner/blush/tinted gloss tho), but for anything else in my daily life I don’t bother. Perhaps it’s because I never wore makeup before I got into lolita, but I like to hope I still look pretty cute without it and have an alright skincare routine. I just cannot ever be bothered to put in the effort and I hate how it feels on my face (and constantly being afraid to touch my face), and having to reapply it every few hours is a huge pain for me when I would rather focus on what I’m doing. Clothes were always a part of my morning routine anyway, so dressing up there doesn’t take much time, but blocking off time for makeup feels foreign.

>>10117347
>I hate how it feels on my face (and constantly being afraid to touch my face
I'm exactly the same but my genetics cursed me with bad skin

>>10117347
If you look OK in lolita without makeup, lucky you.
My face looks pretty pale without makeup, I barely have eyelashes and brows and I have a resting bitch face, so makeup is a must if I do not want to be outshined by what I'm wearing.

>>10117347
You make wearing makeup sound a thousand times more complicated than it really is.

>>10116572
>Another girl showed up, but decided she didn't want it after all, and tried to convince me to go to lunch with her instead.

Sounds like a polite way to make sure she's not wasting your time, anon. She probably wanted to make sure you still had a good day with her. You're such a salty crab.

>>10117660
Some more details for you, anon:
I didn't know her before that attempted sale, I had specifically said I was meeting her on my way to do something else, and she implied that she no longer wanted the dress because she was lol broke student. I think she more likely wanted a free meal and thought I might be a good mark for it. We've had girls "forget" their wallets before at meets, and I suspect she's been among their number.

I shoplift everything I can that So I can spend more money online on brand. I save a lot of money this way. Wristcuffs are great for sneaking up make up in, they are also big and cover your hands a bit so less visibility too. Pettis are great for stuffing with clothes etc. hidden pockets in my ap is good too. Looking cute makes people less suspicious although it does draw attention so I need to be careful still. It makes me ashamed somehow but at the same time why should I pay for shit when I can get it for free? It’s really addicting. I did take a small thing from btssb in Paris once. I am planning a trip to Tokyo now to shoplift Lolita, you who have been there what do you think, will it be easy? Do they have alarms on ap and baby and closet child?

>>10118128
It really is addicting. You should seek help before you start stealing things from the houses of friends and relatives. You think you would never do that but addiction gets out of hand. Especially since they would be an easier target.

>>10118138
Yeah you’re right but I’ve done this for ten years plus and I hate when you can’t trust friends so I would never steal from someone who would get hurt by it other than big companies like h&m, food stores and so on. However stealing brand from ap probably would be a sin too big even for me...

>>10118140
You already stole from a small company, btssb, and they had to close down in Paris

>>10118142
True haha! No worriws ill steal from ap then as well. All is good universe is in balance

>>10118140

You know this impacts the minimum wage workers there, not the CEOs who already make billions right?

You need help.

How does it affect the workers? I seriously don’t know but happy to be educated

>>10118567
Nayrt but at my previous work place it was taken from my wage. I was usually the only staff in the shop so not like I could check everything a customer does when there were multiple customers. It was ridiculous.

>>10118567
This >>10118621 , they have to pay for your stolen shit.

>>10118128
Fuck you. Get help.

>>10115234
Came in here to post about the time I racked up my credit card to 10k in debt over many things but also lolita.

Glad I'm not the only one.

It's been long paid off. Thank God. Never again.

Also I'm ADHD. (also plays into impulse buying). But also I can't keep a clean room to save my life. My items are all tucked away in a wardrobe and my items are off the floor. But I haven't made a wardrobe post in years because I can't keep any room in my house presentable. And anywhere that is presentable is covered floor to wall with boxes belonging to my husband's figure collections.

I just want a pretty lolita room. I start and then 10 minutes later I'm off doing something else because this one object reminded me of something I totally meant to do five months ago.

>>10119304
I have ADHD too and I don't even know how you managed to get a house desu

>>10115121
I’ve done this too haha

>>10115657
same, friend, same. You’re not the only one.

>>10119355
Husband is far more responsible with money than I am. I'm a lot better these days and keep my impulse buying down. But still.

He's a little messy and I'm just living in clutter and overwhelm. Tried to Marie Kando my shit and got bored after folding the first load of laundry. FML

>>10120222
I'm actually pretty good with money but when it comes to registering for things like finding a house I'm stuck in "I'll do it tomorrow" limbo