/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

here are some handmade coords.

>insta: @uiuwiru

>>10102932
>insta: @kaneko_shop

this shop can make these jackets to order, to your specifications. check them out, they also have crowns and other ouji accessories.

>>10102935
>insta: @designer_sasa
all clothes here except the socks and gloves are handmade.

>>10102937
>insta: @gravelvet
the shorts were once a skirt

>>10102943
>insta: @nicolasdaiglere

i remember him using other handles, though.

>>10102950
>insta: @hoodoo.sama
the blouse is handmade.

>>10102952
>insta: @rosesrebellion
coat and breeches are handmade

>>10102952
FUCK that belt is so fucking cool

>>10102957
it is VooDoooDolly! she updates her shop irregularly.

>>10102956
>@insta: fairytaleprince
the shorts are made from a Violet Fane skirt

>>10102967
>insta: @fidel.david

>>10102968
>left: @dandy_offiziell
>right: @iiraliina

both frequently make their clothes, but not always ouji or aristocrat ones

>>10102988
>insta: @deathandtea
coord made from recycled thrift store fabrics

>>10102993
>ig: @matticusnightshade
shorts used to be skirt

check the tag #diyouji and use it if you DIY! >>10102998 used it a little on ig and i bet we can revive it.

>>10102998
>ig: @sorgevinter

the vest used to be an AatP skirt. breakdown of method follows.

>>10103101

>>10102923
Oh my gosh thank you so much for the diyouji dump!
I'm planning on buying the dress I plan on making into shorts late this month after payday so I will be posting more about it here when I do.
>>10103003
I will for sure check this tag out thank you!!

>>10103101
>>10103103
You see the bottom edges flaring out here, my pattern didn't tell me to use interfacing on the bottom edge and I'm dumb. Do it and don't make my mistake. AatP uses a stiffer fabric as lining on all edges on their waistcoats, that works too.

>>10103431
for interfacing do you put it just in the hem of what your sewing or would you do like a whole triangle of interfacing to fill the point?
Also what pattern did you use??

>>10103431
i never would have thought of that, thank you

>>10103450
Personally I would interface the entire front of a waistcoat because it just looks and sits much, much better than not fused regardless of the weight of a fabric. To me, a waistcoat is supposed to create a smooth line and the interfacing will help that. You're not going to be using like...a shirt-collar weight here, a light to light-midweight fusible should be fine.

>>10104112
Ah that makes sense thank you!
Would you ever use interfacing while making a pair of ouji style shorts? I have a pattern that I'm planning to alter into the right shape for the look I want but no idea if I'll need to use interfacing.

>>10103450
Depends on fabric type, since I've made that one I've experimented with different fabrics, for heavier fabrics I would only use strips along the hem, for lighter fabrics I would do as >>10104112 and use a lighter interfacing along the entire panel, with maybe an additional strip along the hem. I used McCall's M7003, though I altered the shape since the smallest waistcoat size was /way/ too big for me.

>>10104398
Always. I would always interface the waistband, zipper area if not making a half-elastic waist, and any leg cuffs and bows like >>10102937 has on the bottom of the shorts. I suspect >>10102943 may not have interfaced the visible part of the leg cuffs, which doesn't necessarily look bad per se but just means things don't sit as smoothly.

>>10104438
ah thank you! I have a waist coat pattern (a simplicity one) that i think i'll make a mock up of first before I actually use any actual material.
>>10104451
Would you use a heavy type of interfacing or a lighter kind? im guessing it probably depends on the material correct?

if weebs don't stop putting their cosplays in the ouji tag i am going to pants the next Alois i see

>>10105696
Or stuff like this....

Buttcape's Ouji Overview has moved: https://www.stephano.me/the-new-ouji-overview

>>10105733
all that shit too, yes. every one of them gets pantsed.

>>10104480
I would never use heavyweight interfacing for pants (when I say heavyweight, I mean the kind you find in stiff dress shirts) as you don't want it to look like you put cardboard in there, you just want it to have some body and sit stiffly. Honestly, you shouldn't need more than a light or midweight fusible, the lighter the fabric generally the lighter weight the interfacing so that it doesn't stick out like a sore thumb. You want your pant cuffs to look smooth and well constructed and still have some movement, not stiff and solid or floppy and crinkled.

>>10106430
Ah okay thank you! Currently have all this stuff scribbled in a notebook for me to remember, gunna see if my work does interfacing today

>>10106198
Can't wait until its all been moved over from lj to the new blog, all the pages par two are dead on butt's lj which sucks

>>10106539
and linking to blogspot gets blocked, here and elsewhere. also we may be transitioning to call her Stephano instead of Buttcape, based on the new title of her website. the name Buttcape is iconic but also a bit goofy-feeling when discussing the ouji guide, the triangle, etc.

>>10106538
>>10106430
Sorry I meant to say "have some body and sit nicely" rather than "stiffly"

>>10102935
I hate the fabric, but the shape of this coat is so nice! I'd love to see it in black with subtle accents.

gunna dump some coords i like before i go to work (source is the file name)

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>>10107263
and i just adore these shots from the btssb show

>>10107264
i wanna have fun like this!

>>10107257
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>>10107263

>gunna dump some coords i like before i go to work

You have shit taste.

>>10107263
lmao, she looks like a clown.

>>10107460
then post some coords you like???

>>10107484
she looks fine

>>10107512
pointless coord dumps are not usually interesting for anybody, unless there is something to discuss about them. for example, if you want to discuss different ways to wear a piece, or you would like inspo for seasonally-relevant coords, or if there is a rare body type or substyle to discuss.

example:
>Mana-sama's Valentines coord: is this aristocrat or madam style?

have a particular focus, instead of pic spamming. this is not your Pinterest board.

>>10106996
yeah, it is too busy for me. that fabric as an accent could be cool, or as a waistcoat. swap the solid blue panels for the patterned fabric, and i would like wearing it, i think.

do you like denim? Ikemen Mode has denim.

someone who was at Katsucon, how the heck did denim work in ouji? was it a joke or did it look good?

>>10109441
they also posted a couple coords from the Katsu fashion show featuring "ouji joggers", pants that are comfortable for casual ouji.

i like the vest, which is adapted from Regency-style waistcoats. the denim buttcape, though

>>10109445
the jabot is also denim.

punk oujis, and retro oujis who are tired of being outshone by poodle-skirt lolitas, your time has come.

>>10109447
finally, a look at their denim doublet.

the idea is to reduce waste by upcycling materials. i like the concept but i never imagined denim being used for ouji, even casual ouji. what do you think?

>>10109449
...oh no I love this. Wish it was black or gray denim instead though.

>>10109445
>>10109447
>>10109449
I'm sorry, this is all I can see. Denim seams are just too strongly associated with daily casual wear for me. Maybe if they weren't blue.

>>10109471
if you request it, they may consider using those shadss

>>10109472
ok but imagine a pair look based off of this with a denim lolita and a denim ouji. an April Fool's coord of legendary proportions

>>10109543
*shades

>>10109441
I was there.

Some pieces were okay, but it mostly just looked haphazard and awkward. The construction was solid as always, but the light denim really just ruined everything. If she had embraced the tackiness of the denim and used correspondingly light colors, it would have been less incoherent. The outfits coordinated well as a group at the end of the show, but they were individually lackluster.

In the Q&A, she basically said that she designed the series to spite the "no jeans" rule at every tea party, and that pretty much all the thrift stores in her area know her now for her villainous jean-hoarding ways.

She put a lot of time and effort into this, and the cuts and silhouettes looked great, but the materials and colors brought everything down. I really appreciate her effort and commitment to experimentation, though!

>>10109447
Honestly such a trailer park prince look, made me laugh but it's wonderfully put together.
>>10109687
Reading this actually makes me love it more, hearing about her passion behind the material choice is really cool I love it.

>During the signing session I heard that an Elegant Gothic Aristocrat met an Elegant Gothic Lolita through Moi dix Mois and the two eventually got married. He got teary-eyed when he told me that after ten years of being my fan he was finally able to express his feelings. Of course hearing this made me tremendously happy as well, and in addition to my regular sign I wrote "congratulations on your wedding!" on his item as a special favor.

from the Guangzhou event report: https://moi-meme-moitie.com/?mode=f43&fbclid=IwAR2nVQCbpv8bydwn7xHjON65oJI_xUbRL8VaYzfVuGJZDoPgbXzUS43DLuU

>>10109687
that sounds fun. i am excited that we have creators who have skills and also like to experiment. even if it was not wholly a success in execution, the story behind the concept is fun. i am glad it exists

Posted another look, for some reason these are really growing on me though I really want to see them on a model. Also that jean jabot is making me laugh

>>10109817
She also mentioned sustainability and was just really enthusiastic and down to earth about things. I wish I could like it more!

Quick question: Should I wear ouji to my grad pics?

>>10110488
yes

>>10109970
we grow another step towards the promised substyle: cowboy ouji

>>10110570
Cowboy ouji is really what we deserve right now (and has anyone even tried it yet???)

>>10110605
yes, Buttcape did once Delta H

>>10111323
*did it once at Delta H

>>10111323
Missed an opportunity to wear cowboy boots but it's a really cute coord

>>10107823
Mana's outfit looks more Madame to me. I have to say, I'm not digging those extra pearl strands. Imo they clutter the look. And really remind me of grandmas.

>>10109970
This is a really good use of denim. I agree with >>10109472 It's very reminiscent of daily wear but i think with some tweaking they could make it work in a more widespread way.

>>10111561
I think if they used a darker colour instead of the traditional blue then they could really make some resilient long lasting ouji clothing. Heck they could even use some other colours, reds or even green but the blue just make it a dead give away what the material is and makes it look kinda cheap and gimmicky

>>10111323
Just hearing the term cowboy ouji made me want to cringe, then I saw this and... I like it. I doubt I could pull it off, seems like it could walk a fine line between good or bad, but I really like what she did here.

>>10111577
KatsuAnon here, she specifically went with the light wash to highlight the sustainable, working-class origins of the upcycled fabric. I'm sure she'd make dark wash if you asked, but the choice was deliberate.

>>10111604
go vaquero style for extra dandiness

Ikemen Mode's experimental denim ouji fashion show lineup

>>10112719

Mana wept.

>>10112719
This is cute, i like seeing different models used its nice

>>10112792
i like seeing different ouji models in new things.

i crave it more than i crave caffeine

newbabby here. is poofy/loose pants or shorts a must in Ouji? I have thick fat thighs and I'm very self conscious about them and poof on them just makes them even larger and more prominent.
I have very few bottoms like that that I like on me (only two, actually).

>>10114030
Long shorts, wide flaring pants, and even some full length punk pants work very well. Silhouette and maturity go hand in hand in ouji, so short, poofy things are cuter and more youthful, whereas long pants that extend the line of the legs look more elegant and aristocratic. A long flared pant leg will look slimmer than tight ones.

Are sweater vests a thing in ouji or are they seen as too casual like cardigans are for some lolitas?

>>10114103
I've seen sweaters, cardigans, and I think one sweater vest in punk schoolboy-styled coordinates, but they're not very common.
You could definitely do a cute sweet look with a pastel argyle sweater vest, but gothic and classic ouji would be difficult.

>>10114103
it depends on what they look like and how they are worn. some may be suited for preppy ouji, or a retro-inspired classic look. (mid-century professor, etc.)

finding examples is not easy. here is a plain one worn for a casual ouji coord. it is not ideal.

>>10114375
this is better, though.

styling is everything. all aspects of the coord interact. between these two coords, one definitely appears more thoughtfully assembled.

>>10109445
I was looking through CC recently and saw a bunch of those ouji joggers. I was almost tempted to go for it but I feel like any comfortable material is going to be really obvious against anything less... soft?

Is it possible to wear a jacket over a vest with tails without looking stupid? Without wearing a long jacket?

I love boy style but think those shorts look so stupid. Anyone have examples of it with pants?

>>10117424
lots. what kind of substyle? theme? colorway? brand? help me narrow it down.

>>10116599
i think so. especially if the jacket is cropped.

>>10117437

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>>10117445
also, consider short capes

>>10117449
or bolero

>>10117450

>>10117451
ty for the inspo <3

I really like the pants and feel like they are very lolita/ouji, but not too sure about the top? Its custom made so I could request some changes, what do you think would make it more ouji, or are the top and bottom just bad?

>>10117743
The top isn't really salvageable, at least to me, but there are plenty of cream blouses out there.
The shorts don't fit the model well, which bodes ill if they're custom made. The lacing at the cuffs looks off to me as well.

If you've fallen in love with them, go for it, but I would look for something else, especially if they're custom.

>>10117743
Eh, Looks really cheaply made, more like a costume than actual quality pieces. I'd especially stay away from the top... not much good going on there design-wise.

>>10117436
unsure. princely stuff? aristocrat? historical? anything outside of those shorts.

What sort of wig do you all think would be the most versatile for ouji? Emo bangs? (And yes I would have to wear a wig because I'm bald, but I'm willing to invest in expensive, realistic ones) I'm a woman with a pretty androgynous face so I'm thinking about making the switch from lolita to ouji but my natural hair definitely isn't appropriate to wear with coords

>>10117871
of the three substyles, it sounds like you may enjoy classical more, so let's begin with that

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>>10118027
layers will probably help you the most, for flexibility. straighten them, spike rhem, give the tips a curl, etc. you can even get extensions to add a ponytail if you like, and that tends to work better if the cut of the wig is layered.

>pic related for both of you
>also this ends the mini-dump

>>10117821
>>10117860
Thanks. Its nearly impossible to find a top and bottom that matches and can fit an average american man, so i've just been getting desperate.

>>10118871
i think that is why a lot of oujis sew their own.

ikemen mode has some basics on their webstore, but the sizes may not go large enough: https://ikemenmode.com/collections/all

Miss Danger Shop takes custom commissions and has made ouji sfuff before: https://www.etsy.com/shop/MissDangerShop

Elegy Clothing's most recent ouji releases are out of stock, and they only have their older stuff on their webstore, but keep an eye for their next preorder. their shorts had different lengths available and all their sizes can go much larger than i've seen, and they recently offered a men's cut version for their ouji vests, which went up to 41" for the waist. however, their blouses look to be still available, and custom sizing is also possible:

http://www.elegyclothing.com/c-o-l-l-e-c-t-i-o-n-s/student-blouse-white

it is not as sweet as what you posted, but it is a decent option for a basic blouse, if you do not mind semi-sheer sleeves. they also have a black version.

>>10118871
>>10120177
If you have your heart set on beige, consider getting some steampunk shit. The quality is generally alright and most steamshit is aimed at Americans. Etsy is rife with steampunk.

Once you have a nice foundation, you can go wild with jabots, pins, hats, fancy socks, and really any accessory that calls to you. You can easily switch out buttons, add lace, or layer things on.

Because fitting garments are so hard to come by, most oujis (myself included) started their wardrobes with black everything plus a white blouse. This makes it easy to integrate in new pieces.

With a beige/cream/brown starter palette, you'll need to implement some color theory, but exact matching won't be as important. You can also more easily implement patterned outerwear and colors (jewel tones, dusty pastels, metallic) with this palette.

As with anything, look at reviews and materials before you buy, and don't be afraid to consult this thread!

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but is it generally important where exactly the hem of a long coat falls? Of course I know it shouldn't be... short, but I'm ~181 cm / 5'11" tall and wasn't sure if a 129 cm long coat would be long enough.

Any inspo for ouji nails? I live doing my nails but I feel like they always end up looking REALLY feminine. I don't keep my nails super long, but i want some art on them besides just plain black.

>>10120250
Personal preference for what you find comfortable, but imo anything that hits below my knees are "long" coats. I prefer my long coats to be between 120 and 130 cm, but I'm also a lot shorter than you

>>10118188
its appreciated, thank you a lot! where do you find these pictures?

>>10120177
I'm very tall so I will keep these in mind. Elegy is run by a wonderful lady.

Hey can anyone recommend some places I can get ouji items second hand? There's hardly anything on lacemarket and I haven't been able to find much on closetchild either. I'm specifically looking for a waistcoat, or a tailed military style jacket

>>10121188
Here's the kind of waistcoat I'm looking for too, I don't mind if it's plain black either I can always add the gold trim myself but I can hardly find any waistcoats with nice lapels

>>10121188
all the same places that sell second-hand lolita. wunderwelt, maiden clothing, violet blue on rakuten, etc.

Ozz On's spring collection is available on their international webshop, with many oujiable items, including finely detailed jackets and buttcapes: https://zenmarket.jp/en/s/ozzonjapan/

>>10121189
I just bought a similar vest from Yahoo auctions for like $30. You just have to scope it out and keep checking for new listings. LM, Y! Japan, Mercari, Closet Child.

>>10121189
This specific vest is AATP's Tourinot Vest in BlackxGold. You typically see it for 60-70USD in the BlackxBlack colorway in the Western market, but the gold is rarer. The single row of three buttons is distinct, but there are quite a few double breasted halter vests that are easier to find.
https://lolibrary.org/items/aatp-tourinot-vest-gold

>>10122153
With yahoo auctions I'm guessing you have to use a shopping service to get it shipped to you yeah? Sorry for a noob questions I'm pretty new to this

>>10122503
Yeah, I use Tenshi Shop. She's really helpful and nice!

i noticed a lot of oldschool oujis (pre-2005) used Jane Marple. this is not a brand i often see used for contemporary ouji coords, though. however, i think that brand's aesthetic may work for ouji even now.

going off-brand for ouji usually results in bad silhouettes. what brands outside the usual ones do you think make items that fit into an ouji silhouette?

Any oldschool ouji? or oldschool insp?

>>10112719
That denim is a choice

>>10102967
When people make skirts into shorts they really need to use an actual pants pattern and remove some of the skirt fabric. 7 fucking vaginas on this one

>>10107263
This looks like ageplay rompers

>>10126192
gull i have so much

a lot of it was offbrand because it took forever for people to make and market boystyle lolita. flashier oujis could use Vivienne Westwood or similar brands, though

>>10126563
idk why that's upside down lol. also the ouji is wearing Miho Matsuda, my rambling about offbrand was unrelated to the pic.

>>10126567

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>>10126582
casual style

>>10126585

>>10126587
makeup look for above

>>10126588

>>10126590
we gotta bring back this wet hair look

>>10126592

>>10126595
this is probably my favorite oldschool ouji snap. what a pair!

>>10126599

>>10126606
oldschool military + "boys frill"

a fun mix of ouji and casual wear. i would only consider the flatlay at bottom right to be "military ouji" though.

>>10126614
fucking flip-assed image, damn

here's another take on "boy lolita" from Novala-kun

>>10126615
punk/rock ouji

>>10126617
the main thing i get from oldschool ouji is plaids used to be a much more prominent feature

>>10126619
also that coords like pic related are timeless. brands like Boz have not changed much, and the basic ouji "suit" hasn't, either.

>>10126621
what has changed: our boots are less chunky, and nobody does this "two locks of hair on either side of the face" look anymore.

>>10126622

>>10122503
I just use buyee, it's integrated with y! japan. Really easy to use. Can't speak on the value vs other SS though.

>>10126628

>>10126631
this shows similar outfits, one feminine, one masculine. if you are going for an oldschook gothic ouji look, it might be good to study.

>>10126633
(that is not as clear as i intended.)

what i mean is, each coord has similar styling. similar hair, similar makeup. the differences, and what makes one ladylike and the other gentlemanly, are illustrative of what sets boystyle apart.

>>10126636
aristocrats: we need more of this hair energy.

>>10126637
>tfw bloomers as pants

>>10126639
extra long sleeves were also a Look for gothic coords

>>10126644
ignore squall

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>>10126650
i think this is an early Meta ouji set

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>>10126653
tie tutorial, two styles

>>10126655
Miho Matsuda was the OG ouji brand

>>10126658

>>10126659
batwing collars are another iconic oldschool look. flared long pants, soft tall hats, chunky shoes.

>>10126660
the scan quality is not great, which is unfortunate, because there are only 3 non-ouji coords on this section and i would have liked to read the info for the oujis. to be clear, even the one with a sword is saying their coord is ouji ("daru daru ouji" but idk what "darudaru" means). a lot of ouji was overlooked by early scanlations and it is sad to think of all the lost history we could have had, instead of the "kodona"/"dandy" confusion

>>10126663
*only 2 non-ouji coords

here is another wet-hair-look for ouji

>>10126665
sorry, it is not upside down in my files. i am unsure what makes it flip when uploaded. i assume it has to do with 4chan stripping certain aspects of the file to avoid malicious code/exif data exploitation.

>>10126668
this is "elegant gothic ouji" style tutorial

>>10126669
gothic ouji in atmospheric room

>>10126671

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>>10126674
punk ouji

>>10126676
gothic ouji with a sweet/marine flatlay

>>10126678
not ouji specifically; an Oscar tutorial for your Rose of Versailles coords

>>10126681
textured coats seem to appear often in oldschool snaps

>>10126684
another long hair ouji style tutorial

>>10126686
another Versailles look for macaroujis

>>10126688

>>10126690
this flatlay has an equestrian vibe, which ouji is suited to imo

>>10126692
ouji with madame

>>10126694
Miho Matsuda ad

>>10126697
>elegant princell and wonderful prince

>>10126700
gothic cool prince tutorial

>>10126704
punk ouji tutorial

>>10126705

>>10126708
>theme: baka ouji

end dump

new dump from combing through Fruits.

observations: the brand Christopher Nemeth, which would later be modeled by Ryutaro of Plastic Tree who coined the term "kodona", had a lot of cool shit. a lot of proto-ouji looks from the late 1990s feature half-pants from Christopher Nemeth.

other brands include Vivienne Westwood, Miho Matsuda, Milk and Milk Boy, Jane Marple.

>pic related, march 1998 ouji look mostly made of VW

>>10127411
also, it is difficult for me to decide what counts as ouji. here, someone is wearing a frilly blouse from Milk and some Christopher Nemeth pants. it has many features of an ouji coord, but does not quite hit the mark.

there are also many snaps i would classify more as punk, or prep, even if their aesthetic and silhouettes likely contributed to ouji. i am not sure these are worth posting. but if they appear beside a lolita, and seem to be trying to match, i figure they are trying for a "masculine lolita" style and will include them.

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>>10127416
this is another borderline case. but it has puffy pants (Christopher Nemeth), buttoned blouse, neckwear, colorful socks.

Are there any old school ouji nowadays? I never see any. If there are, any instagrams or anything for me to follow/look at?

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>>10127419
yes, but i lost their handle. i have been looking all over to find them again. if you check the #dobusu tag on IG and Twitter, there are a few dark oldschool-style (and sometimes highly stylized) fashionistas in Japan who follow the artist of dobusu brand tights (https://mobile.twitter.com/xx4xxdobusu)) and seem to share an aesthetic that is reminiscent of old gothic GLB illustrations.

the ouji whose IG i lost may have privatized it, but as soon as i recover their handle i will share.

>pic related, Dobusu artist in a rare oldschool boystyle coord

>>10127430
and one of her in proper oldschool ouji

>>10127430
Thanks anon!

>>10127424
>in year 2000 now

>>10127437
you are welcome, i hope you find cool stuff

>>10127457
scrolling through @fy-fruits on tumblr by year to find more

>>10126585
These tartan pants with the zebra pattern pocket are just so cool. I hardly see many punk ouji around, it's a style I for sure wanna try!

>>10127419
the IG handle i mentioned in >>10127430
is @_bizarredoll_

it is a private account for the kid in the front row, far right.

>>10127508
be the zebra-striped punk ouji you wish to see! adding such a pocket to an existing pair of pants seems quite easy, if you can get the materials

>>10127561
this pic is public, posted by @mitsu_secret on IG, featuring @_bizarredoll_ in oldschool ouji

for further oldschool inspo, consider following Milkboy. the brand is older than dirt and still releases the sort of items that would make a good oldschool coord if styled well. a combination of Milkboy, Miho Matsuda, and Vivienne Westwood would give an authentic oldschool street snap feeling.

https://mobile.twitter.com/milkboyharajuku

Moitie has a Krad Lanrete collab. no menswear but they made these rad OTKs for your gothic needs.

>>10131138
Link?

visible corsets are trending in Japanese street fashion, including among oujis. this shop is offering custom corsets for men; you pick the color, design, measurements, etc., for $300.

https://innovacorsetry.com/products/corset-vest?fbclid=IwAR3Iv4F13nnlS54ORmbapBVUqqUYVSDWJvb3CEWnhJe8A8EFMqVk4hkjYG0

>>10131246
none available yet. Wunderwelt Fleur should begin accepting orders on 3/23.

lets talk about boots, is there any rule about boots?
I'm interested in getting an edgy pair of leather boots
Post your fancy boys

>>10131246
https://www.wunderwelt.jp/en/fleur/products/a-00180

available now!

>>10132951
there is no rule beyond matching your coord and not hurting yourself imo. edgy leather boots are great for gothic, punk, or rock ouji coords.

i do not personally like some boots i see used that have a lot of metallic elements, when the coord does not have much metal otherwise. it looks unbalanced.

chunky boots with tall platforms give an oldschool feeling, like >>10126713, >>10126684, >>10126678, >>10126674,
>>10126673 (same red and black boots as >>10126713), >>10126652, >>10126650, >>1012664, >>10126646, >>10126637, >>10126628, etc. stomp your way into a coord that properly inherits the legacy of Big-Ass Badass Boots.

how do y'all pick your substyle? im for sure leaning towards gothic n punk but then I see folks like nicolas orloff and i wish i could do something ott classy like he does even though the place where he gets his stuff from never has any stock

>>10133599
It's because he owns the brand together with his wife, they only make those items for him. You don't have to pick a substyle, wear what you like, buy what you like, find someone open for commissions for the things you want but can't find/haven't been released.

>>10133599
it can be good to begin with a substyle so that you have cohesion. then build toward the ott classic wardrobe of your dreams.

>>10134069
also this

>>10102937
god this is so good. you could nitpick it, but it really captures the costume of aristocracy with a bit of childishness. also it's just nice to look at.

oh fuck

goodbye, salary

a new bat cape has arrived

Miho Matsuda has decent qi style blouses for those who wish to pioneer some good qi ouji

>>10135522
dapper parasol also released

>>10134069
Oh I didn't know that! For some reason I thought he was just some sponsored model lol.
I'm currently building up my wardrobe, but sadly having a hard time finding any trousers I like/will fit. Thinking about buying some normie dress pants and altering them into shorts or the bloomer style shape I see a lot.

some details on new AatP long vest. they do OTT ouji better than anyone, and it is good to see them use more than just metallic rickrack trim.

>>10136489
DIY is probably your best bet. if you post your progress on social media, consider reviving the #diyouji tag

>>10136793
me, i always wanted tailfeathers.

>>10103103
another diy ouji coord appeared, made from scratch.

>IG: @crimson.cos

Alice and the Pirates finally caught up to 2016 and is on Instagram

>>10142707
meanwhile, they released this fucking handmade-looking coord, to encourage all the DIY oujis in this thread who can probably do better.

>>10142713
this looks weirdly amateurish

>>10142717
ngl, that cat hat is adorable and i would wear it with pride.

>>10142713
>>10142717
Both of these look weirdly plain, lack of pattern, embellishments and such. I do like the last one a little more though, the hat is adorable and I would of liked to see the pants into shorts

>>10142717
What the fuck is going on with that rippling at the bottom of the pants

>>10142719
>>10142835
the hat is the only redeeming aspect.

>>10142838
shoddy construction, i would imagine.

>>10142713
this release is a bit better, and seems roomy enough for different body types.

>>10102952
I love this one.

Is there a way to make overdresses like this work with ouji? Does anyone have any examples?

>>10146950
i haven't been able to find any. they have a feminine look, so a more feminine coord may be possible. if you want a masculine silhouette, i do not think those would work

Baby's Twitter posted this. is this the goat skull fabric or something new?

>>10142717
that cape tho

>>10120356
just a gloss or natural color holographic/glitter and you will give off major fancy lad vibes

>>10126567
crying cos i saw those jane marple pants on CC and missed out on them

>>10118170
What's his handle?

>>10149507
yes, it is the black x gold colorway

>>10150068
that is @hoodoo.sama on IG

mahjong-kei is the future of ouji

finding short multicolor wigs, especially gradient ones, is hard. so i want to share a Japanese wig company that has a wide variety available: https://locoloco.jp/?mode=grp&gid=1741227

i have not ordered from them. but i hope to see more companies making multicolor short wigs, since trimming longer wigs usually removes the color variance and i am not ready to dye.

I've been wanting to start wearing aristo for quite a few years now. Is it even possible if I'm 6'3" tall? What would my maximum measurements need to be?
I don't expect to be spoonfed all the info I need, and I need to do better to research it myself. Sorry in advance if this is off topic.

>>10152915
you would be better off just getting into some sort of avant garde men's fashion. the ouji stuff with shorts won't look right at all, you'd be better off in aristo, but blouses will be too short and jackets and vests will sit too high

>>10153168
Yeah, I've come to terms that I'll never fit in ouji. Aristo is what I always wanted to do anyway. It just seems like I can never do it no matter how skinny I get myself.

Oh well. Maybe I'll just die and reincarnate as normal height so I can wear Boz. That's all I really want.

>>10152915
>>10153168
>>10153257
You know what? Fuck this self pity shit. I'm going to do aristo no matter what.

I found this old guide that's really encouraging me.
http://rosanitida.blogspot.com/2010/12/12-steps-to-become-gothic-aristocrat_23.html
>It's a sad fact, but styles like lolita and aristocrat simply look better on thin people (in most cases) - aristocrat is a great style for tall people, though! Outstanding height makes the whole outfit look more elegant and that way aristocratic - that's why models are tall too.
>Often even as simple thing as a well-fitting black/dark coloured suit with elegant gothic details and accessories, like crosses, roses, walking sticks, bags and hats goes for an aristocratic outfit. It's so often all about the make up and hair!
I can do this, even as a tall and thin person.

>>10153293

Why were you worried about doing this as a tall thin person? I can see being self conscious about wanting to do it as a fatty, but it's literally tall thin person aesthetics. You can do it anon, don't let your self-insecurities stop you, especially in something literally made for you aesthetic wise.

>>10153305
Well, it's scary being 6'3" and wanting to get into a fashion primarily made up of tiny people.
Also, I did used to be a fatty, but I lost 50 lbs, and I'm still losing, because I run 5k almost every day now.
I still need to get my measurements a bit lower though, so it's still intimidating.

>>10153307
I am a taller girl into lolita, so I know how it can be. Blouses are a bit short on me, but things like wristcuffs really help. Can't help you with aristo though, but I'm sure you can find a way, just like I do with lolita! good luck anon, and don't let anything get in your way of dressing how you want! You can do it!

>>10153305
>>10153313
I appreciate you guys so much. I'm glad I came here for encouragement. I won't stop trying, no matter what. I'll keep you updated on my progress.

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