/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10099573
>tiny witch hats
>maid dresses
>striped socks in 2019
What a meme

>>10099589
these look like uniforms from a local maid cafe... even the color scheme is eerily similar.

As for group sizes, I think small groups are the most fun to follow.

>>10099589
They're so cute though

Typically speaking I tend to prefer smaller groups, because they tend to be a lot more synchronized. But if a large group is well in sync then im still down for it! I like soloists as long as they have good presence.

>>10099607
tacky

>>10099589
What's wrong with striped socks?

>>10099625
Aren’t they like a 2000’s era weeb staple

>>10099632
I guess they might be? I've never heard anything bad about them, but they do have an endearing "anime club" vibe lol.

>>10099632
Well that, and for witches, pretty sure stripped socks are standard since that’s what Auracle is going for.

>>10099680
So why the maid outfits

>>10099691
Maybe they were an easy way to coordinate colors, maybe it has something to do with their video release. It's going to be a Valentine's day debut and maids kinda work with that.

>>10099691
Can’t costumes just be cute? Real idols do loose thematic tie-ins all the time. Why does Wasuta wear cat ears even in non cat themed outfits? AKB doesn’t always do school uniform inspired pieces. I think it’s a little unfair to expect Auracle to go full on Mimi solo costume, especially for their first release.

>>10099800
Exactly, it's a cute look, even if it is simple. Let's be honest, we've all seen much worse

>>10099979
Right, and I recognize that this board is made of individuals with their own opinions, but I've definitely seen the criticism here that "why did they try making their stage outfits when they look so bad, they should have bought something simple and coordinating from Bodyline". It's weird to see that expressed so often and then also criticism when a group does exactly that.

>>10099573
How old are they? Are we allowed to talk about them if they’re minors?

>>10099983
>>10099979
>>10099800
The problem is there are two themes going on on top of the striped socks, like why do they need the witch hats too? Or just take the aprons off? It’s just weeb overkill. But all idols are weeby.

>>10099983
Making their own costumes is like the one thing that keeps these threads board relevant. There should more attempts.

>>10099985
Okay honestly I didn't expand and didn't even notice the little witch hats. They seem a little random yeah.

>>10099984
They aren't

>>10099985
That’s just the way most idol outfits are. Maid+witch isn’t even that weird a combo. Just think of all the costumes with random cat ears

>>10100060
Cat ears are not the same.
This outfit is hideous

>>10099691
I'd like to know this, too. I do maid cafés and the girls that are obsessed with being idols are always a nightmare to work with. What's the correlation between idols and cafes?

>>10100065
Most maid cafés include performances from the maids, so having some singing and dancing skills are a big boost.

>>10100063
This outfit was featured in AKB's museum of iconic idol costumes. Normal clothing rules don't apply to performance wear, especially for idol designs

>>10100077
I guess I thought there might be more to it than that, but thanks. Guess it makes sense, the idol girls always seem to only care about having content to post to their social media and whining about wanting a solo performance. You'd think that it wouldn't be that big of a problem, but most get very disrespectful when they don't get their way.

>>10099985
You’ve got to be a lolita baiting. As another lolita, just because our fashion looks bad when themes are mixed doesn’t mean that stage costumes will be the same way. It’s not about being perfectly matchy-matchy, it’s about having a cute outfit you can dance in.

>>10100063
It is. It’s a common opinion among fans. The blazer version is okay but not by much.

>>10100155
Damn, I personally loved this outfit

>>10100133
Nope not a lolita. Just an anon with an opinion.

>>10100187
Same here! Mixed tartan is always a cool look

>>10100215
I’d actually like to apologize for getting a little heated. I respect your opinion, and hope you share the same feelings! So yeah, I’m sorry about that. It’s all too easy to forget about individuality on here.

Opinions on Tambourine's Kaz's gravure Instagram account?

>>10099697
I'm with you anon nothing says Valentines day like continuing to ignore your wife to sleep with your maid. I don't mind the costumes I just thought maids = Valentine's day was hilarious.

With Valentine's day less than a week away, should we post some couple covers for inspiration?

>>10100358
I mean it's her body so she can do whatever she wants I guess

Pizza Pizza is released - https://honeyhime.bandcamp.com/album/pizza-pizza-by-pizzayolo

>>10101025
I have to admit, it's kinda catchy

>>10100358
Her body isn't bad but her face is kinda manly looking especially with the short hair so it feels weird.

With the popularity of Love Live in Japan, do weebs make their own school idol groups over there too?

>>10101054
I don't know about at the high school level, but there is a competition for college idol groups called UNIDOL (university idol). The competing groups are teams representing their school.

I need help searching for a video. one of the first odottemita videos that I watched had a girl dancing wearing a school-like uniform (white shirt and red plaid skirt) and cat ears and tail. the video was pretty popular but i don't remember the title. someone else know what i'm talking about?

>>10101080
wait i found it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiopHj_VHhg
the original video might have been deleted though

>>10100358
As far as Im aware, she's only posted the one photo on her account. The other account is the photographer she credited in her photo, who, I guess, has only shot her so far.

Any recommendations of net-idols that make or design their own outfits? I follow meotashi but of course her construction is... questionable...

>>10101106
I do like designing but have never actually had the funds or talent to make my own. My only suggestion is to think of how practical the design is. For example, don’t make or wear something that could overheat a person or weigh them down.

>>10101113
Ah, I didn't want advice, I just wanted to follow other people. I'm not any kind of idol myself, but I do love sewing and seeing other people sew gets me inspired.

>>10101124
Oh sorry! I misread.

>>10101106
I know Peachy Parade made their pink uniforms, I imagine they have plans to make more outfits too.

Natalie's giveaway for Mint Pink is halfway over and only one person's entered. Can't believe more people aren't jumping at the chance to own those idolsonas and a song like that.

>>10101106
Danzoo Dash makes their own uniforms, I think they livestream the process sometimes. And Risa Rose has a sewing highlight up, although it hasn’t been updated in ages. Like another anon mentioned, Peachy has made their own stuff before, and I know Honey Hime has original costumes. Ice Qream has some originals, too.

>>10101350
I hope this is scarcasm and not natalie selfposting

>>10101350
Half of the fun of making your own idol group is being able to make creative decisions like what you'll wear and what your persona is. If you want to make idol groups for the sake of making idol groups that's up to you. But I honestly don't know anyone out there who wants to start a group but doesn't want any creative input on it

Sorry Natalie

Did anyone here audition for mosuri? I saw on their story that they sent out emails

>>10101350
Song is one thing, but like others said making the idolsona is part of the fun. I’d also understand if Natalie was actually good at music (which she isn’t).

>>10101454
>>10101456

I should have used the /s tag, my bad lmao

Has anyone seen this? Teya's new group did an intro video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt_GTSenaCg

>>10101054

We had a high school club be a cover group. They did pretty well and lasted until the founding members graduated and disbanded the group with holding a disbanding concert vs a quiet disbanding online.

>>10101952
Wow some big dreams if they're talking about .Bless and five years from now lol

>>10099573
They look really uncomfortable in those stupid ass "kawaii ugu" poses.

Here's some recent stuff for discussion:

Parfait Party - "UFO": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4nTogCeLV8

Melancholiaah - "Re-sublimity": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnZHFbAiUys

Ice Qream - "Maidreamin": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpk59ijJAL0

Snow Fairies - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwvsBCpxJZ0

Citrus Idol Project - "Pure Girls Project": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBSaLieDGQU

>>10090094
I wanted to do a song/dance cover of Aitakatta but would I get ragged on if I do the MNL48 version

>>10101106
@yellou.id (Instagram) is a costume designer for Indonesian idols (like LuSca).
And, not original but just in case you'd be interested, @thizurun (Instagram/Twitter) makes some beautiful Aikatsu! costumes.

>>10101025
I like it overall but the vocals sound... inconsistent in quality? It's not as noticeable when they're singing together, but solo some of the voices sound very autotuned.

>>10099573
>Let's talk group sizes - what do you prefer? Big groups, small groups, soloists? What unique challenges present themselves in groups of different sizes? What's more fun to follow?
I tend to follow smaller groups (I consider small groups to be 5 or less people) and soloists as it's easier to become more familiar with them as individuals. It also seems easier for a group to maintain higher quality and standards if there are less members to manage.

ngl why does Seishun Youth Academy never get talked about in these idol threads? They always seem to be up to something and perform lots. They’re even guests at some con in Winnipeg.

>>10102140
Maybe by some people, but probably more would find it neat! I really like the MNL48 version, it's pretty.

>>10102181
Honestly I think it's because they really focus on their local fans and as someone who lives across the country, it's hard to get into them. I really like them and think they're cute, and talented, but they don't upload a lot of performances. I've never been able to find their original song anywhere to listen to. They're also under real Japanese management with professional training, so a lot of the themes of threads like this don't apply to them even though they are "overseas idols".

>>10102018
I'm honestly surprised citrus is trying to make a come back since most of their members have moved on

Are there any other dance group threads? Looking for more kpop/jpop cover but this thread is mostly idol things (no hate lmao, just generally curious) I like idols but I was just wondering if there was more of a dance group specific thread somewhere

>>10102307
Maybe check /jp/. Doesn’t seem to fit anywhere on 4chan which is weird to think about.

>>10102307
That’s what this thread used to be, it’s transitioned more into idol stuff though somehow

>>10102307
I mean the tread is titled "net-idol/odottemita/dance cover group" so with a little comprehension and problem solving skills, you should be able to figure it out

>>10102307
To be fair most overseas idol groups are just dance cover groups who just use the name idol

>>10102661
yep but all everyone talks about are idols and as soon as kpop cover groups is brought up its ignored. no need to be an ass, it was just a question.

>>10102733
Not necessarily. Most overseas idols (at least on the oic database) both sing and dance.

>>10103016
I'm talking the ones outside the database

>>10102885
K-pop is garbage, unoriginal american music sung in korean and hip-hop choreography so its not our fault if we ingore shit

>>10103051
God you’re a faggot, I’m not crazy about kpop either but it’s not like jpop weeaboo infantile shit with bad production value is any better. We’re all nerds who like garbage here.

>>10103051

Lol okay, what a fucking asshole, get over your little "kpop is dumb only jpop is good" we not gonna do that stuff here.

>>10103064
Never said jpop was better but keep going, I'm amused

>>10103081
>kpop is garbage so we ignore it
>we acknowledge jpop because it is not garbage and thus is better than garbage
Dumbass, now stop replying

>>10102018
Anyone looking forward to the likely influx of Valentines covers? What do you think will be overdone this year?

>>10103341
I'm pumped, i love seeing cute girls do cute things. Probably won't watch all the tons of Mogyutto Love de Sekkin Chu covers that are inevitable, but I'm excited for everything else.

>>10103341
I’m excited this is the cutest time of year for dance covers

>>10103341

Mogyutto is dated. Shoujo iyo ga Koi Shitai is where its at.

>>10103109
... both are great but go off I guess.

>>10103464
Not really. I think that Mogyutto is still pretty cute. All the Valentines should be covered because oof. They’re so good.

I did Mogyutto with a group once and it was just as boring to dance as it is to watch. Sometimes I even struggle to call it a dance because so much of it is just posing while another part of the group does something for 8 counts.

>>10103501
I love mogyutto as a song but the dance is a bit of a let down for this exact reason

https://youtu.be/lpyQBglUchY

The song sounds cute in Japanese! I’m not a big fan of the English version. Also, am I the only one who feels like their releases are becoming crowded? I get it’s meant to be in all 3 languages and such but wow. I don’t think there’s a need to include all the acappellas too. I also wish they’d do more story work. That’s the one thing people are actually waiting for and it’s just not coming.

>>10103651
I remember them saying they're still working on something like a novel for the story. I also think they include the acapellas for people that want to remix their music.

>>10103651
Thanks for sharing this! Somehow I'd forgotten to follow Interlunium so I missed what they've been up to lately. I'm excited that this is a solo album, although there's a lot of characters to make them for. I hope the project lasts that long. Including acapellas seems fine because it doesn't really take any extra production value to include, and I'm sure there are a few fans that will want to hear them.

Anyone know what happened to genki girls??? I know they disbanded but why

>>10103109
jesus, this thread is filled with fuckin trash weebs.

>>10103866
They’re supposed to perform at Katsu I thought

>>10103352
That song was released on valentines day so yeah.

>>10103478
>>10103868
...am I living in a clown world where people have split personality disorders and can’t read or something

What's the consensus on the term "net idol" as opposed to "overseas idol?" I always thought they were sort of interchangeable, both essentially meaning "amateur (Japanese-pop-inspired?) idol."

And unrelated, but would it be a good idea to include this playlist of original music in the OP of future threads?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfmgukQM2isUtJJZz1MY4Jn4zPcbl0wDU

>>10103352
>>10103385
>I'm pumped, i love seeing cute girls do cute things.
>I’m excited this is the cutest time of year for dance covers
Hell yeah!

Quite a few of Yui Ogura's songs are pretty sweet and lovey-dovey, so a cover of one would be nice to see.

>>10103866
I found this on one of the girls stories. Could have to do with that.

>>10104269
>I always thought they were sort of interchangeable
Because they kind of are but not exactly. Think of it as the whole square vs rectangle argument. You can (although incorrectly) call a square a rectangle because parallel sides have equal lengths, but you can’t call a rectangle a square because not all the sides are the same length. Net idols are overseas idols, but some overseas idols (similarly to Stellure or Chirigirls) are promoting primarily outside of the internet and there for are not net idols.

>>10104323
Does anyone else find that anime idol larp speak so many people use annoying? “I’ll work hard!” type shit is so cringe to me. Like we all know you do this for yourself not to please others like animu girls do.

>>10104338
I mean, do you not want them working hard? I don't get the gripe here. "I'll do my best" is a very common theme in the idol industry, it's not just an anime thing. And no matter where you are in the world, putting on a good performance takes effort, even if you're not a "real" idol. Let's not shit all over someone's good intentions and motivation.

>>10104338

I know exactly what you're talk about; the cavity inducing sweet speak which no one can possibly maintain in their normal lives all day every day. Everyone has to poop at some point, and everyone is going to get pissed if someone cuts in line or knocks your drink out of your hand. Stop giving the illusion that you fart pixie dust, it makes me harder to believe that you're a relatable human being who has bad days too.

I know this girl who I used to be in a dance group with, and she was like this all the time. She never had an opinion, she did anime mannerisms which just look creepy in real life. She was just too busy trying to give out this aura as though everything was fine even if things...really weren't.

It took me a while to figure out if she was just this nice all the time, but as it turns out it was just for tShe instagram follows. Now I get why people automatically assume why nice people are fake.

The pandering to the followers makes me want to gag by referring to them with cutesy titles and transparent well wishes. Just the other day I received a message because she wanted something. It was typed in a way which could have sounded like it was personal, but when I checked with a mutual friend it turned out that actually it was a copy pasta word for word and was overdone for such a simple request that I would have done anyway.

At first I just felt annoyed because you don't feel like youre getting the real deal and I'm incredibly socially awkward so if I'm forging bonds, I want to feel like I'm actually getting somewhere with it. But now I just feel bad for her because she rarely has photos with friends. She probably can't share a bad day with anybody and what exactly is she trying to run from if she feels the need to be validated by follows?

I've rambled on enough but yes. I definitely prefer the ones who are more down to earth and don't spout emojis at you. It actually gives the illusion that they have more than a couple of brain cells.

>>10103341

I'm not a fan of super cutesyness but I love when people do holiday-themed covers! I'm hoping for a Hello Mr. Chocolate cover, probably once again Love Live songs are going to dominate, like Mogyutto (ugh it's so boring).

If you're in a dance cover group (that might or might not sing), do you consider yourself a net idol? Genuinely curious and won't judge either way. I'm in a dance group and while we might draw inspiration from real-life idols we don't consider ourselves any variation of one. This might be culturally different because we live in Europe.

>>10104338

I get what you mean! The girl here isn't the worst offender but this kind of cutesy sweet demeanor gets old fast if there is no balance with authenticity.

>>10102154
>thizurun
That image is so gorgeous I need to thank you for this share!!!

>>10104381
My group calls ourselves an "idol dance group" because we cover dances from idols, but we are not idols. You can be idol inspired, but if all you do is dance I don't think you should use the title of idol or net-idol. That's not to say that idols can't do dance-only covers though.

>>10104395

Mine calls ourselves that as well with the same thing in mind. It's kind of like tribute bands without the band aspect.

>>10103651
>I also wish they’d do more story work. That’s the one thing people are actually waiting for and it’s just not coming.
Mood. They have like HUGE backstories on their Wikis but we haven't seen anything

>>10104373
>>10104338

I don't mind hearing "I'll do be best" or "I'll keep working hard". Yeah it's overused but it's also the best phrase you can use sometimes.

I only dislike hearing it if the girl says it and then DOESN'T work hard. Like if she says "i'll do my best" and then goes on hiatus for 3 months and comes back and says it again. Like anon said it's all about authenticity. If commit to what you say you'll do I'll respect it

Mosuri's vocal covers and dance covers keep getting blocked as soon as they upload them.

Clearly they don't do their research and see what kind of content would be okay on YouTube, this is the 3rd video I know of that has gotten taken down. LOL

>>10104722
Honestly it’s not even that. Often times if you just say you have the right to upload a video under fair use (covers commonly fall under fair use regardless), more times than not whoever did the copyright will release it. When I say more times than not I mean 9 times out of 10.

What does everyone think of managers and producers for groups? What is better; friends helping out or groups hiring staff? Are you yourself a manager of a group? What are the struggles of managing a group? Are managers/producers necessary to make a group work? Discuss.

>>10104757
Trust me we've done that nothing works

>>10104722
LOL Maybe it's for the better. They should solely focus on getting better before they keep posting with the frequency they do. In my opinion, their group dynamic is really... odd. It just feels like Calina and some no-name girls rather than a cohesive group to me, so I'd like to see them work on their teamwork before posting more and more.

>>10104269
net idol means only on the internet. net idols don't do stuff irl... hence "net" idol. if u do stuff irl, u can't be a net idol cuz... ur not strictly doing stuff online. ppl who haven't done a live performance can be net idols. if you do both then ur really just an amateur idol

A few recent uploads:

Mosuri collaboration with Julily, Akaya, and Sadie from Patinum Happy.
facebook com/morningsunriseidols/videos/796649700716421?sfns=mo

Two uploads by Cherry from Citrus.
https://youtu.be/bFQ1TOjJdyM
https://youtu.be/h4aMhKHzVc8

A new solo dance from Peachy Parade.
https://youtu.be/DW2g3Y7Hcq8

A new dance cover from Mocha.
https://youtu.be/gLUS5mfWAVE

>>10104888
>>10104888
Not gonna lie I was expecting a lot worse when I watched them but they’re all pretty cute. I wish the setting for the second cover was a little more interesting and not so plain but the editing was nice and I enjoyed the dancer’s energy, which made up for it. The other two girls were clean with really crisp moves and I actually really liked the expressions throughout mocha’s cover in particular.

>>10104924
I'm not sure if you actually listened to the first two videos because the singing in both of them were pretty bad.

>>10104931
Was commenting more on the dancing. And she really only sings in the first one, but I agree, it could’ve been a lot better. Not the worst I’ve heard lol.

>>10104809
Then clearly you’re doing something wrong cause it always works when I or anyone else I know does it.

>>10104884
I always thought of "net" idols as performers that use the internet as a tool to boost their content, and interact with people over the net, but not exclusively. I don't see why mixing in live performances disqualifies you from that. But worrying so much about the word choice of net vs. overseas is honestly a really pedantic distinction for someone who refuses to type full words anyway.

>>10104888
I think mosuri and the others the collaborated should’ve picked something more fast paced with less held notes because some of those long notes they had were either off key or off time. Tbh I feel like for beginners it’s better to actually save slower songs for when you are more experienced because when you hit those long notes, you can really start to tell when you don’t have the correct pitch or if your Japanese is poor.

>>10104888
The Mosuri cover was...Not good. Mocha and PP covers were cute. Definitely good energy on the former.

>>10104888
Here's some more Valentine's stuff!

Doki - Kiss Me, Kiss Me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YdoxvQFDqw

Aidorujanai - Valentine Day Kiss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSFqFwXnYfQ

Eira M. - I'm Sorry for Being so Adorable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMiU-7Qthjs

Auracle - Mogyutto "LOVE" de Sekkin Chu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_2r3jM4Ra8

Akiba Koala - Kuchiduke Kibonnu / Atashi no Saigo no Love Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SnrDyW0wi0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbzH9JEdnQI

>>10103052
holy shit calm the fuck down.

>>10105111
I like Doki’s voice a lot, it’s nice to listen to.

Aidorujanai could’ve been a little more synchronized but it was still super cute!

I love Country Girls but the location was lacking, dance was still okay though.

I like Auracle’s logo, but god that was so boring to watch.. kind of awkward too, especially the girl in the purple.

I’m not a huge fan of Akiba Koala’s singing, and her dancing has seen better days. I just wasn’t impressed by either of these.

>>10105132
I bet you were the kid who got beat up for playing yugioh at the lunch table and told the bullies your game isn’t like that nerdy garbage pokemon

>>10104884
Net idols do stuff irl, they just primarily focus on online content vs doing lives at cons and what have you.

I know ll sunrise released soemtimes for Valentine's Day
Haven't checked the video yet
Anyone else?

Couples Odottemita anyone?

A Datte aa Mujou cover with 18 dancers and a couples twist to it.

https://m.bilibili.com/video/av25638029.html?

The Suou cosplayer manage to pull a really convincing crossplay.

https://m.bilibili.com/video/av8650187.html?

>>10105142
there's better card games out there. how's that pertain to net idols btw?

>>10104269
Exactly why Yui is my favorite idol. If I’m not mistaken isn’t she a member of AKB?

>>10104381
Danzoo Dash is a cover group. I think ifbyou make your own stuff and just make it unique it could work

>>10105205
>https://m.bilibili.com/video/av25638029.html?
It's refreshing to know that the Chinese cosplay dance groups can suck just as much ass as the Western ones. Good idea, terrible execution and sound editing.

>>10105111
Even more Valentine's content!

Aikan - Heartbeat (Original)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw1a4uoojjQ

Chekiss x Maid Sachi - Eien Maid Shugi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG78rQ_wcfI

Meri - Venus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fJmRbX5G80

San - Love Letter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwPO8cEEp4M

Melancholiaah - Crazy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q_Cd6uYatI

>>10105427
>If I’m not mistaken isn’t she a member of AKB?
Maybe you're confusing her with Yui Oguri? Ogura used to be part of the idol duo YuiKaori!

>>10105481

I agree, it does sound like shit, like the audio really sucked.

>>10105554

And also, another cover of Hitorino Envy. Usually the cover is normally yuri, but this is one of the few true couples ones

https://www.bilibili.com/video/av8673100/?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=0V2iWZ6TZq8


is it just me or does the red one look very familar. but what is this cover...the dancing is OK, but the vocals scare me lol

Found this from L-NAV. Aaand that checks off this song from the list lol

- Shoujo Ijou no Koi ga Shitai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Fpp9nWVRM

>>10105491
And a bit more, though there'll probably be a late upload or two later today.

Love Live Sunrise - GALAXY HidE and SeeK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouIlY5VFku0

The Super Sapphire - LOVE4EVA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gxhaZ2YfW0

Kristen - Sweets Parade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lt2SAPjp7E

>>10104392
>That image is so gorgeous I need to thank you for this share!!!
You're very welcome! I'm glad I was able to help you discover such a talented seamstress.

>>10105681
I think the scenery costumes and dancing were all very cute but man... they should maybe leave the singing until they improve it sounded very... forced? Bad? Idk

>>10105571
hitorinbo envy isn't a love song though, so it being a "true couple" doesn't affect the song in my opinion

>>10105491
There are too many Yuis XD I might’ve gotten it confused yeah

>>10104722
So Mosuri just announced their newest member on instagram. what do you think?

>>10105793
I love this bow! Is there a name for that specific kind of ruffled tail on a bow?

>>10106158
NAYRT. She's cute, but just as basic as all the other members are

>>10106167
I’ve always called them cascading bow tails, there’s a decent tutorial by Cosmic Coterie for the Sailor Moon bows shaped like that.

>>10106158
She’s in project shooting stars and cafe Kira hoshi too. As far as I’m concerned, she knew them all before hand and was selected as a friend who wanted to join the project late and they had to make it look official. Same shit San’s pulling with virtualive. Cast your friends and people with a following. No one actually has real open auditions to cast people they don’t know or haven’t worked with before.

>>10106453
The salt. Kek.
But you can't blame people for picking those they know. It's risky picking complete strangers. Plus, San knew those chosen but didn't REALLY know all of them that well as far as friends go. Picking people with a proven track record is smart.

>>10106460
Although I agree, maybe don’t go and make it seems like you’re having a fair public audition process then. It seems a little disingenuous.

>>10106453
Then why go through the trouble of holding auditions though? Why wouldn't they just add the new member?
Also what makes you think they're friends?

>>10106461
>>10106462
These are very good points and often ones people feel when it comes to Japanese idol auditions especially hello project. If you’re primarily planning on having friends or known people in the group, scout. Don’t hold public auditions because that implies someone is trying for a chance to be considered without actually being considered. It’s different if someone auditions and they’re you’re friend but they’re better than other entries when judged by someone else.

>>10106476
Couldn't she have been the latter then? From what i've seen on project shooting star she's a good performer.
What makes you think she didn't get into mosuri through her own merits?

>>10106484
Again, I think it’s the principle of it. Nobody said she doesn’t merit being chosen. But when you close your auditions one week and then announce your new member 1-2 weeks later, I think that pretty much obviously shows that you know them, know their true talent and potential, and you can guarantee they won’t just drop the group immediately.

This is totally fine; my group has done it both ways, we have held auditions and waited to reveal members months after closing them in order to ensure they were ready to debut and to make sure they meshed with our group, and there are times we have no audition rounds and just add people we already know because we’d like them to join our performances. The point is that you are honest about it. Don’t make it out to be an open, fair audition when in reality- you had a particular person in mind that you had already chosen prior to closing applications.

I am unsure if those responses are actually from mosuri members, but just in case because we know Calina/Mosuri reads these threads- nobody is out to get you. But you aren’t making the most amazing track record for yourself from the bad Twitter rant about your own members, and now to this. I really like all of your efforts but they aren’t going to amount to much if your reputation is diminished. Just some food for thought.

>>10106453
To be fair, most of the South Florida groups are comprised of the same 5-10 people anyway. One of the Mosuri members was in project shooting stars and another LL group and is currently in another group called KiraKira Party, iirc.

I think the issue is that there's just a very small community in the South (east) Florida area.

>>10106525
Rei, Mimi, and Niki were all in PSS together. They made a subunit together that then disbanded because they joined Mosuri. They’re all in Kira Kira Party now. Mimi is in MahouKiss Idols, but Rei and Niki aren’t in any lovelive groups right now. It’s just funny to watch them all hop around groups. Like, pick what you’re dedicated to and stick to it. Instead, in the past year, they’ve done like three different projects, and when KiraKira party started as a bandori group, they decided to change it into a multi group because they weren’t getting enough popularity out of it lmao.

At this point, my thoughts on auditions are like those above. Just be honest with people rather than make it just a process to add a person. Honestly, LNAV does the same thing. They hold “auditions” every time, and then end up readding their old members back into the fray, or cycling people from previous auditions. Their newest member is the only person I’ve seen who’s genuinely new, and honestly, she was probably friends with them before too. Like, if you know who you want, don’t even another with the process because you just make people judge and doubt you more.

>>10106505
It’s not Calina who reads it, it’s Rei. She’s made comments before about Calina being their leader and shared knowledge without knowing everything. She’s probably the one who passed it off to Calina anyway.

>>10106484
I never said she didn’t get in on her own merit. I just jumped into the convo. Also, even if she didn’t that’s not her fault. It’s the leaders fault.

>>10106525
This is definitely what the issue is. South Florida wannabe idols keep grouphopping to try and keep up with whatever the flavor of the month is in Central Florida. The problem is that Central Florida is overflowing with idol groups while South Florida only has a few people, so while Central Florida looks like a clusterfuck, South Florida just looks dead because there are so few people there into idols. I appreciate that they're trying to make it work, but it'd really just be best for them to all form a larger group or two with broader concepts rather than grouphopping like they do.

>>10106596
NAYRT, but I didn't know it was Rei who reads these threads LOL. She's my favorite.

>>10106596
>It’s just funny to watch them all hop around groups.

I wonder why they do it. Are they only interested in being in a group if it's popular, or are they just half assing commitment? Even the Umi kira kira "announced" is someone from pss. Alot of this really just comes off as a lot of these groups being exclusive to a circle of friends and not actually as open as they seem.

>>10106639
I'm genuinely surprised that there aren't a ton of them in Miami. I did a (minimal) digging and found a fourth love live group that's in the same area. A lot of them would benefit from just combining into one larger group.

Stellure's halftime performance at Katsucon is later today - anyone planning on catching the livestream?

>>10106641
There are actually a good number of groups in the south, but the same applies to it being the same 10ish people who cycle around each other when “drama” happens and they can’t stand each other for a few weeks. I’ve given up trying to follow them because it’s all the same people who die out after a few months without debuting.

>>10106645
I watched it, and wow, the improvement is staggering! The MC bit was cheesy, but MC parts tend to be like that anyway, so I didn’t mind. Both songs are leagues ahead of their previous ones, desu, but Overdriver was especially cool.

>>10106910
It was very Love Live-y, but since that's where a lot of their influence comes from I think it fits. Also, it's nice to get stuff from idol groups that isn't just songs - the personality-based content is important too. I liked the transition between songs, it was really cool. And it seems that their vocals and mixing have improved a ton. It's a shame their livestream had potato quality due to bad connection; I can't wait to see the HQ video!

Looks like Start Splash idols finally got rid of their most toxic member who self-posts, talks horribly about other local idols and bullies others out of the group. I never went to their lives because of her but now they might actually get support.

It's been somewhat awkward watching Tauri's Instagram story update where she's clearly at Katsucon but didn't take part in the live. She doesn't even appear to have watched her group's performance or hung out with them. I know Stellure doesn't pressure all their idols to join in every performance, and that not having the money/time to join a live is a legit reason. But the impression it gives is that Tauri had the money to attend and wear several cosplays but not to make outfits for their show? It could have been a time commitment issue, but honestly how hard is it to learn 7 minutes of a group dance so you can actually be a part of your own idol group? It doesn't appear like she really wants to be a part of their group - they even used her image color for Io's outfit.

>>10106964
Nah, their Mari is the most toxic. She is the root of all toxicity in the group.

>>10107022
Really? I’ve only heard things about their Hanamaru and a little about their You. Their Mari is super cute but i’ve never interacted with her.

>>10107048
You sound just like Bambi. Not bunny's fault for not wanting to associate with someone so toxic so good on her for leaving.

>>10107062
Take your vendettas elsewhere, it’s obvious who you are.

>>10107111
Call me out, please. Scream my name to the heavens

>>10106596
>It’s not Calina who reads it, it’s Rei. She’s made comments before about Calina being their leader and shared knowledge without knowing everything. She’s probably the one who passed it off to Calina anyway.

So if it is one of her member's reading this thread then I'm interested to know if she's passed the nasty shit Calina said about her other members off to them? I'd be very interested to know their feelings on their so-called leader childishly talking shit about how bad they are on her public twitter. If that were my "leader" who did that to me I would've left the group honestly because that's just extremely narcissistic behavior she's displayed.

>>10106964
The group still has a bad air about them because of what the ex-hanamaru has said and done publicly. So even without her they have some cleaning up to do

>>10104888
>>10105111
>>10105491
>>10105681
>>10105728
>>10105793
Now that most of the Valentines content has been posted, what are everyone’s thoughts?
What did you love?
What did you hate?
Who do you want to see more from?

Gotta admit, Stellure's new live was amazing compared to their other stuff. I'm kinda proud of them.

>>10107204
Because I’m lazy (and I also assume some of this stuff was either posted on stories or deleted) does any have caps for all this drama? If it’s so juicy I’d love to read.

>>10107195
This is why I thought it was Calina that read the thread because shortly after the screen shots of those tweets were posted, she tweeted “oh seems like 4chan has dug up my old shit oops” or something along those lines. So yeah, if it’s Rei as well, then how the fuck does she feel knowing that their leader talks shit like that.

Conspiracy theory: Calina’s tweets were actually about a member who joined and quit the group before they debuted so that’s why nobody in the group feels bad about it.

>>10105111
The girl on the right in Aidorujanai... She's pretty good, and I could see her making it as a net idol if she dropped the stone to her left.

>>10107005
I have a feeling Tauri is going to announce graduation really soon, she doesn’t seem to like being an idol all that much.

Sunrise’s old ruby is selling all her ruby stuff now lol. Literally all stuff they wore for PV’s is getting sold off.

>>10107022
Not at all. Bambi is not the most toxic at all. Bunny was one of the most toxic members of the group to the T. Bambi is a sweet person who is trying so hard to keep the group together and have fun. It’s really sad how much she cares but it seems sometimes she is the only one.

They still have a long way to go in growth but their Mari is def not the problem.

>>10107574
Shut up, bambi. None is buying your "sweet innocent girl uwu" act. Quit blaming Bunny for your toxicity. Everyone is tired of your crap and will eventually leave you and Blynn to kiss each other's asses.

>>10107574
Different anon, I don’t know which one is which but I remember the Mari (Bunny or Bambi? They both have animal names lol) posted a bunch of drama about a former member on her Instagram story a while back. I don’t know anyone who has left the group on a non-dramatic note. I also remember they were posted on here because one of their former members didn’t want to be posted on their story because of the way they treated her

>>10107022
>>10107164
>>10107574
>>10107629
>>10107346
Would you all mind taking this to a Lolcow thread instead of shitting up this one?

>>10107629
It was Bunny, the member that just left. Also the entire Texas community knows the member that got “bullied” out (Chika) is absolutely batshit and nobody wants to work with her. This group isn’t all that, can we move on?

>>10107680
>Also the entire Texas community knows the member that got “bullied” out (Chika) is absolutely batshit and nobody wants to work with her.
Bunny you okay there?
>>10107662
Tfw no lolcow thread on net idol groups in general

>>10107005
Wait, even Titania was at Katsucon. So all 11 members were there, and just 2 of them didn't feel like joining the biggest and coolest performance they've done yet? Something feels really off about this.

>>10107695
>Tfw no lolcow thread on net idol groups in general
someone just created one
lolcow farm/w/res/36218.html

>>10107458
the group wouldn't be losing much if she did leave, she's pretty but can't sing or emote worth a damn the few times she did participate

>>10107762
thanks anon, there's not much right now though
but now the thread can avoid posting about drama

>>10107347
>Conspiracy theory: Calina’s tweets were actually about a member who joined and quit the group before they debuted so that’s why nobody in the group feels bad about it.


See, I would agree with that, but a lot of the timing of the posts were written post-debut. In fact, a few of them were written around the time she did the halloween cover with Kei, so it was clear to me that she was very deliberately talking shit about one of her member's not working as hard as her. So I'm having a hard time believing one of her members is the one reading these threads and just reporting it to her, bc why would you knowingly partake in the cover up of the shit talking of your fellow group members? Since it really doesn't seem like the other members know what was written about them. Unless they're too spineless and clout hungry to be apart of an idol group, regardless of your leader being extremely toxic human being.

Any HD uploads of the katsucon contest yet? I couldn't really tell shit from stellure's story quality. Snowbound seemed really cute though.

>>10107347
Pretty sure none of the members even know how 4chan works. Calina has a friend who goes on 4chan and passed the info to her, most likely.

>>10107350
Agree. Video would have been better just solo. The duet wasn't extremely terrible though, just awkward. It would make an acceptable performance at let's say... an anime convention. But to watch that straight on in a video with no other distractions and nothing but other covers to compare it too, it was awkward.

>>10107209
Sort of impressed with Aikan Idols music video. The music is kind of awkward, but there is an idea there. They just need a better arrangement for the instrumental. They put in effort, so I can't fully dislike them, but there are certain things that could be improved for me to openly support them. They are close, but just mis the mark on some things.

>>10107862
Lol their channel is a cringe goldmine if you look at their past videos. Surprised they haven't been posted more often. This song was probably one of their best so far though.

>>10107695
Taina, everyone knows who you are. It’s not a secret.

>>10107852
Not yet, or least not that I could find. I'm kind of eager to see it too.

>>10107862
I felt the same way. They're still lacking in certain areas, but I can tell their efforts are genuine and I want to see them improve even more.

>>10107830
>>10107859
>>10107891
lolcow farm/w/res/36218.html

This seems very cringey and weeby, very much a young person's thing. Can someone explain this hobby to me?

Why do people enjoy watching people do this? Who/what demographic are the people who enjoy it?
In a lot of the idol love live type groups the dancing doesn't seem very skill heavy. What's the draw?

>>10107891
Not her, but okay. Move your vendetta to the lolcow thread, booboo.

>>10108056
Honestly, those of us who are reasonable about this understand it's inherently cringy and weeby. It's kind of the desire to perform and sing combined with being a weeaboo. There's tons and tons of non-professional and indie singers just making their own music or doing covers for fun, performing at open mics and small venues. This is that, but more influenced by Japanese idols and geared towards a nerdy weeby audience. For me, I enjoy seeing amateur performances because they're very honest, and they can show a lot of improvement compared to professional singers that start off amazing. I like seeing the story of someone starting from the bottom and improving over time. I also just like seeing cute girls do cute things, so the fluffy skirts and cute art appeal to me. I appreciate when people attempt original music even when it isn't the best, or when their voices aren't the best, because there's an endearing quality to having made something totally from scratch without the support of a professional agency. You're right about it being cringy and weeby, but those are things that we tend to accept because we like the other parts of this hobby too.

>>10108056
Sorry, realized i only responded to half your question. As for the demographics, most of the fans of overseas idols are other overseas idols. Unlike in Japan where the idols appeal to order males, here they usually appeal to female peers. The appeal isn't "I could date/hug/take care of this person", it's "I could be like this person and perform as well".

As for love love groups, your guess is as good as mine lol. Most of them are popular based more on the appeal of the franchise instead of the cosplayers themselves. Well known works will always get attention because people already know the characters and the songs, and the dances are simple enough for most people to learn. So love live groups are really prominent in the dance scene right now and those cosplayers usually call themselves idols, and they're associated with the groups that sing and dance as themselves. It's kind of a broad umbrella that covers a lot of different types of groups and soloists, but the common theme is some sort of influence from the Japanese idol scene.

>>10108056
Honestly anon, it's fun. Sure it's cringeworthy, but I'm already a cosplayer which is cringey enough to most normies. Why not have fun while I'm at it?

As for watching people, it's like >>10108175 said. Endearing to see people put their all into anything, watching cute girls do cute things. When I'm at a convention, it warms my heart to see people on stage dancing in an organic way I haven't felt since I was a weeby teenager. Plus, the dances are a cute cooldown for my workouts and the costumes are simple enough to work on between cons as practice.

>>10108056
I think the appeal comes from the last generation of net idols, where you could be anybody and wind up flying to Japan and performing. There was this notion that of you are cute enough, you don't even have to be truly talented, not of you have fans then you could go to Nippon land and life a cute life or some shit. People would see these girls and want to imitate it. Now the appeal has evolved into seeing anime or groups at cons, and wanting to emulate that. A group having fun dancing and what have you makes others want to do the same, and it's again that whole "anybody can do it" attitude, with these girls next door trying to be ambassadors for something that hardly exists. Apparently now the game is to perform at cons? None of them seem to actually care about a Japanese fanbase, which makes no sense considering they're performing jpop.
The appeal for me personally is I enjoy seeing covers of real idols I genuinely enjoy. Dancing is also super fun.

>>10107762
Can whoever makes the next thread be sure to include this lolcow in the main post so we can filter out the drama mongering 12 year olds easier?

>>10108184

Not to mention it is the only franchise with any resemblance of exposure given how unbelievably strict Japan is with copyright enforcement during the youtube boom that the Hallyu took advantage of. Or the constant "Reset the clock for Japanese idols being problematic" that AKB48 and it's sister groups attract all the time.

Even SYA admit it is a pretty big hurdle to leap to dispel the prejudice

>>10107522
I don't think this is entirely weird though, I saw their Riko sell older costumes too

>>10108200
And then once people actually went to japan, amina du jean and becky cruel herself, they realized how hard it is and shared their experiences of how just being a foreigner really isn't enough. japan has a lot of cultural differences beyond language. ally and sally got to where they are because they are actually half japanese and have an understanding of the culture. since people shared their horror stories essentially, I think that's what scared this new generation into aiming for cons and staying in america

>>10108747
Anon Ally & Sally are 100% White and not Asian at all. Beckii wasn’t aiming to become an aidoru she went viral and didn’t speak Japanese or anything.

>>10108747
What “horror stories”? The only thing Beckii and Amina both said we’re having money taken from them by their agencies. I don’t think this is what dissuaded weebs. Anyone who has been in this community for longer than love live weeb age knows that there’s always been a very very small group of people that wanted to go to japan nothing really changed. Just like it is now most weebs just wanted to dance and sing online or locally.

>>10108761
Keekihime's scandal
Yukapon's pee scandal

>>10101070
I just came across Highdol, which is presumably the same concept as the UNIDOL dance competition but for high schoolers.

>>10107852
Stellure's Katsucon performance is up now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm1ULe_rSpg

>>10108905
i really love the yellow one, she's very expressive and dances well.

>>10108905
this was actually really good! nix's performance was kinda weak though and polaris really took the spotlight from every other member

>>10108905
show us the link to Highdol. Also the dancing was so out of sync in the stellaure video... it's a bit disappointing though their singing and outfits are great

>>10108905
This whole time I thought it was pronounce “ste-loor”

>>10108905
The idea of high school idols makes me feel kind of weird with how wota see idols in Japan. Like a legal way to train junior idols, maybe. I dunno.

They were desynched at parts, but the chorus was really good! I wish they'd prune a few members and limit their group to five, because with 9, there are so many more parts of the song that look uncoordinated and flaily.

>>10108597
>>10107522

Probably partially due to funding future projects then. LL cosplayers aren't precious about their costumes and use the 'trade-in' method. They wear what they want a few times, sell and buy a new one from it. Rinse and repeat until they've done all the ones they wanted.

>>10109068
A majority of idols are in high school or are of high school age though. When you look at groups like Momoiro, Morning Musume, etc. then of course not because they’ve grown with idoldom but younger groups like Tsubaki Factory & 48G generally still have members in high school or of that age. It’s also common with lesser known idol units.

>>10107695
texas' idol groups are all toxic though. parfait party, galaxy girl paida, and milky kitty were caught staring down at people at miniminicon. they also stalk cosplayers panels that they have vendettas against.

>>10109158
I literally can't imagine where you're getting that info from because I've never seen anything that even remotely suggests that's true

>>10109169
ive literally seen it with my eyes and so have a couple of my friends.
the panel stalking happened at yumicon. MK thought she was sneaky by hiding in the dark area in front of the stage, but if you see in pics of the panel on stage, there she is, sitting there on her phone.
mini con had a "rave" and lots of cosplayers were sitting on the floor or dancing. while a couple of my friends and i were dancing, we caught them standing next to us, just staring down at the people sitting on the floor. we shrugged it off but it was really weird.

That sounds like a load of bull. Somebody claimed I gave them a disgusted look at a con and I can't remember seeing this person at all! I spent most of the con preparing my performance or hanging with friends.

>>10109169
where it says Pepsi, thats where she was spotted stalking. its the dark area in front of the stage

>>10109158
is looking at people really a crime now? if they looked mean maybe they just have a resting bitch face or were having a bad moment in general.

>>10109177
its not bull. i was dancing right next to you and saw. paida and martha pointed at some people sitting on the floor and then you gave a really ugly look at them.
i thought the texas idols were nice then they just give ugly looks to people

>>10109181
looking at people isnt a crime. whats weird is that MK shitposted about the cosplay guest and then MK is there, watching her panel in the dark.
kathleen was spreading a screenshot of her post around

>>10109182
though at the end of the day, these all sound like baseless rumors. if there is no actual proof of this then your argument doesnt hold any water

>>10109177
who claimed this

>>10109186
i was at the rave, dancing. i saw them pointing at the people and you giving a ugly look. sorry you were caught in the act?

>>10109181
Deliberately sitting at a table a couple feet away from a person they despise and spread false info about isn't just having resting bitch face.

>>10109189
"seeing" is not hard evidence and no, im not a texas idol. i'm just not convinced. if you dont have anything concrete to sustain your claims, then what you are saying, like i said, doesn't hold weight.

>>10109193
>I spent most of the con preparing my performance or hanging with friends.
i beg to differ

>>10109177
>Somebody claimed I gave them a disgusted look at a con and I can't remember seeing this person at all!

who claimed it and whos the person?

>>10109196
i didn't write that, you're talking to the wrong anon

>>10109192
i'm talking about paida and parfait party, is there evidence for them?

Jade, moon bunny, or whatever the fuck you go by, quit harassing MK. You've been spreading false rumors about her for years and none has believed you. Show us even the slightest of proof about her evilness, i dare you. Your in Japan now, shouldn't you be doing your idol group and modeling shit to show how better you are than her anyways?

Frame of reference for your bullshit: https://prettyuglylittleliar.net/topic/3769-milky-kitty-cosplay/

>>10109068
From what I understand, the competition is basically just a way for ordinary students to band together with their schoolmates and "feel like an idol for a day" without all the baggage that comes with being an actual idol.

>>10109053
Well, here's the website but it's basically just for promoting the event itself: http://high-dol.jp/
Here's a digest video of the 2015 Highdol event: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa3axEfAgVI
And here's a small playlist with what I could find on YT if you want to skim through some more groups: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfmgukQM2isVzZWnm0BlQ61hQWk1wv_NI&

They're a lot like unidols but with somewhat less precision in their dancing and simpler costumes (sometimes even just casual outfits or their school uniforms).

>>10109158
>>10109216
and the rest that I can't be bothered to tag
lolcow farm/w/res/36218.html

Good lord, take this shit to lolcow. Why am I seeing a bunch of children whining about mean looks and rumors and posting pics like "she was here in the shadows I swear!" This is ridiculous. If you have something substantial to post about an idol's public image, then it might make for good discussion, but this is just literally unfounded rumors and petty bashing. Take it somewhere else.

>>10109173
This sounds like a reach. You’re reaching. She probably wasn’t looking at you. I don’t like MK but I think you’re over reaching. I’ve never seen this either. You have no evidence other than hearsay so it almost seems like a weird jealousy of these people.

>>10109216
When PULL tells you to quit the vendetta....

>>10109216
what now? im not even her, idiot
its almost 3am in Japan so why would someone in japan be awake right now?
youre doxxing too

>>10109240
wrong anon but okay
i go to cons in san antonio, i see a lot of cosplayers. i sit down in the food court and i see MK. i go to the drawing panel on stage and see MK there again, in the closed down food court. why sit in a closed down area?

>>10101952
Teya looks so much better with bangs and twintails. I'm surprised.

>>10109250
I agree.

>>10109198
MK has yet to say who
she even doxxed herself so she cries about someone who hasnt even spoken to her or seen her in years
grow the fuck up
that person doesnt even go to 4chan and has said it publicly on facebook for years

>>10109254
oof imagine crying about someone who doesnt even go on this site

>>10109248
>>10109254
>>10109255
holy shit stop spamming the thread with samefagging. take it to lolcow

>>10109259
None of those say (You) for me, dumbass

>>10109271
Why are you defend yourself if none of those are you? Shouldn't at least one of those have a (you) if you are proving you weren't samefagging? Makes no sense.

Wowww Seishun youth academy merch and member color announcement. What do you think? Its on their fb rn

>>10109239
Because this is par for the course for idol threads. When you’re a super small circle of girls trying to outcute eachother under the guise of “yay idols we’re here to make you happy uguu!” what do you expect?

>>10109158
All four of them were nothing but sweet to me, despite the fact that I was awkward and could barely formulate sentences.

>>10109182
I was talking about my experience at a con outside the US

>>10109187
Somebody messaged me privately and claimed I had. I had no recollection of even seeing this person yet alone speaking to them.

>>10109383

>>10108175
>>10108184
>>10108191

Thanks for answering everyone!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BnifyRKlBE
Martha sings beautifully (and has good taste in music).

>>10109283
These are so cute, especially the member buttons and the uniform keychain! Though their merch is only available for purchase at their concerts, not online yet.

>>10108913
That would be Polaris! She had experience with tap-dancing prior to joining Stellure.

>>10109705
i love the merch! it all looks like something i'd buy if i were able to go

Sorry if this is a bit off topic, but I wanted to get some thoughts. My idol cover group has some footage from an event we did last month and it was one of our best performances. However, all of the dances we had performed there (and consequently filmed) had been performed at other events (and as such are on our YouTube). Would it be weird to upload our latest footage (even though the dances looked better at our last performance) since they are repeats or no? Let me know your thoughts. Thanks.

>>10109772
I don't see a problem with uploading dances you've done before if it's a new event

>>10109705
Oh, I forgot to mention that I think the "Coming Soon" slots might be for custom Seishunya light sticks. Anyone have any ideas of what else they could be?

>>10109772
>Would it be weird to upload our latest footage since they are repeats or no?
Not at all, plenty of performers do that. Especially if you're saying that this was one of your best performances, you should show your online audience that you've improved since the last time you performed those dances.

Speaking of improvement, here's some comparisons for fun.

Ally & Sally
February 2012 - https://youtu.be/b0mEJBhmiPw?t=17
April 2018 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gTpCJTbiuQ

Stellure
February 2018 - https://youtu.be/QT9eveohcOM?t=30
February 2019 - https://youtu.be/vm1ULe_rSpg?t=299

Julily
June 2015 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E8EykDiI14
January 2019 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bfpNFvQrOs

>>10108905
Stellure still gas a ways to go, but I’m DEFINITELY seeing the improvement!

>>10099985
Why do you care so much about the striped socks?

>>10109705
>>10109712
If anybody would like anything purchased, me and another fan are willing to buy and ship for you as long as you are able to pay prior to the concerts and pay for shipping. Drop me an email if you’re interested in anything.

>>10108905
These songs are definitely their best so far, but literally no one was in sync with each other the entire time, not even the group's best dancers. I have no idea what the timing of the choreo is actually supposed to be since no one is ever doing it together. They still really need to work on this, and considering they meet quite frequently according to their ig stories they do have time together to work on it. Also, Nix has literally no idea what's going on the entire time and it's really distracting.

One thing they also could improve on is distinguishing who's singing and when during songs. Like in Snowbound, they're all in a straight line the entire time, and since a lot of their voices sound very similar it can be hard to pick out who's actually singing. Whenever the person singing is doing a slightly different version of the move everyone else is doing it isn't clear enough that that is what's happening, so the move looks like a mistake. I actually couldn't tell if some moves were slightly changed from other members or mistakes a lot during the performance.

>>10107862
They've totally improved, the singing sounded a lot less harsh, surprising Akaya had the weakest voice even though this was a high song and she's usually a strong high singer. The lyrics were a little cringy at some of the verses but their locations were slightly better with the cool mountain shot. I hope they keep improving they have a lot of potential

Stellure is disbanding

>>10110180
Damn, just when they actually seemed to get better lol

>>10110180
f i n a l l y and it’s hilarious too right when people are starting to be impressed by their performances lol

>>10110180
I’m sad that they’re not just having the senior members graduate! They have such potential still, it’s sad to see them disband at their highest point

>>10110180
I didn't don't expect this to hit as hard as it did. I'll be sad to see them go.

>>10110180
This is pretty terrible timing, with a little more practice and lives they could have really improved, plus their last two songs were actually pretty good (music wise) oof

>>10110180
Does anyone else think is because Mimi ran off to Darling! Idols?

>>10110197
I doubt that's it. Darling Idols technically has like 20+ members because they just take whoever can fill in for a performance and count them as part of the group. I think she just filled in for a performance, but being part of a LL dance group takes almost no effort compared to running Stellure. It's probably a combination of graduating members, plus trying to keep an 11 member group + staff running smoothly. They've put in a lot of effort since they started and they're probably exhausted.

>>10110197
definitely seems like it.

>>10110180
Nevermind (??)
Was this really just a rebranding stunt?

>>10110214
No. Some of the members are going to continue on with their own music and idol activities, but the group as a whole is going to disband. This is probably just a few of the girls teaming up as a new group.

>>10110214
I don’t think it’s a rebranding stunt, I think some of the girls are genuinely leaving (Mimi) if you look at who that account is following it’s only Polaris, Luna, the composer(?), one of the newer girls, and some other account I don’t recognize. I’m just wondering if it’s a big move because Mimi had such a bad time at Katsucon, talked about how sweet and “refreshing” Darling! Idols were to her while all of the other Stellure members talked about how much they loved and were proud of each other.

>>10110180
Honestly I'd suspected Titania and Tauri would leave since they hadn't been seen anywhere near Stellure for a long time, but I think this is due to Mimi... well, I don't think she's doing too well considering her katsucon post and I think she might've had a falling out with the rest. Polaris, Io and Luna seemed to be the most interested/active regarding Stellure aside from Mimi so It's not too weird if they're the ones that are going on, though I would've expected Callisto to also keep going. But still I thought when the time would come that Mimi would decide to leave they'd just continue on with new members.

>>10110219
>>10110243
If you watched Mimi's story, this was all pretty much self-inflicted. I mean, if you've been following Stellure for a long time, this behavior is pretty common for her. Overworks herself to death, nonstop sewing, nonstop practicing. I can't confirm that she hurt her neck because of nonstop practicing the day before leaving the con, but it just seems like a weird coincidence.

Still, someone with notoriously bad time management skills could probably benefit from dropping a project.

Yet I can't help but to think, with their mirai ticketesque katsu skit, she's going the route of 'If we can't have 9 we can't be stellure :'(' and disbanding the group after highschool.

I'm gonna miss it, though. I thought maybe they had a chance at being real idols (As far as publishing and selling music goes) and they were improving so much!

>>10110219
which post is it?

>>10105681
The red one was in Nebula Kiss wasnt she????? And I think the pink one is actually in another Love Live group rn.... they were cute but the energy was weird

>>10110293
There's 2, one where she thanks Darling Idols for giving her so many gifts and says how much she just adores them and it was nice to be accepted and welcomed (hmm), and another where she talks about how she wasn't feeling well during the con, went on and on again about how amazing Darling Idols were to her, and put like a sentence about how she had to sit out on stellure practice from throwing up and that the live went okay

>>10110243
she even took "mimi" our of her bio and instead put "juice", her name in darling idols, everywhere

>>10110298
the subtle guilt tripping in her posts abt katsu...love it. if she learned to not be a passive aggressive brat maybe stellure would have succeeded, but honestly I saw this coming. I hope the talented girls actually make something out of this wreckage.

>>10110352
The new group is going to be Polaris (best dancer), Luna (one of the best voices imo), and Io (really cute and wholesome, good voice, all around balanced). They're keeping Stellure's composer and having a friend do art. Since Polaris can choreograph, I actually have really high hopes for this trio. It should be easier to coordinate and keep in sync with only three idols, too.

>>10110296
Pink was one of the original Nebula Kiss members iirc

>>10110352
screenshots?

>>10110397
OH. Not gonna lie not super familiar with NK all that much! That's cool to know

>>10110180
I know they were probably trying to fill time, but the opening to their Katsucon performance seems so funny in retrospect. They're "encouraging" each other to become idols and to continue even after get things get difficult, and then immediately after, a disbandment notice.

>>10110219
Especially after she posted her drawing of crying Wonderful Stories Chika, the character and song she filled in for at Katsu, I can't help but think she's either going to say with Darling Idols or move on to a straight Love Live cover group. To be fair, it's much easier than having your own actual group.

>>10110456
Speaking of art, she wasn't exactly subtle about not liking Stellure anymore either.

>>10110462
your icon is showing

>>10110465
yikes

>>10110359
I like Polaris and Luna but never really noticed Io much. I'm curious to see her in Astreal. I also hope that with this new group, they'll have learned from Mimi's many, many mistakes managing Stellure. (Announcing and hyping stuff that isn't anywhere near ready, name-calling critics, setting unrealistic deadlines that result in rushed shoddy final products, etc.)

Seems like their keeping their Stellure personas too, based on the same stage names. Probably means they're keeping the wigs too? I hope not...

So what do you guys think this means for mimi? A new idol group?

I honestly think it's a waste disbanding as a whole but I do feel mimi brought upon the demise. She seemed less and less interested the more she had to do and if she would have just planned and asked for help I feel they would still all be moving forward together.

I think the stress finally got to her and she stopped enjoying it. So weird after the opening dialog to their live. Its sad because they were just starting to hit a good stride. After overdrive I was looking forward to new releases and YouTube premiers.

Callisto is going to be a soloist, keeping her persona. I think Mimi is, too? It's hard to tell because she didn't say anything specifically.

>>10110492
it’s just going to be another project she picks up for a few months and then drops. the same thing happened to stellure that happened to her comic. girl can’t stay invested in anything

Why do we care so much about a group of highschoolers again?

>>10110503
Because they have put out a lot of music, shown a lot of growth, and generally been the main providers of net idol content for the last two years? They've been interesting, starting from cringy and growing to endearing. Don't act like you're above that if you're going to post on a thread like this.

>>10109812
The improvement in Julily is magical and it makes me happy to see her perform so much better. I could barely watch the first one.

This new cover duo started probably about a week ago, and supposedly worked very hard to get to 200 likes in their one week and gets probably like 2-4 likes on each Facebook post. If I'm not mistaken, isn't the girl on the right from Nebula Kiss and busted for buying likes on everything? Doesn't surprise me that she's doing it again. They have one single video and suddenly all these likes??? No thank you,

and on that note; what is everyone's opinions about buying likes/views/followers. Do you all think it's very easy to tell when someone buys things like that? And who do you think is the worst when it comes to it? Let's face it, there are definitely some idols that do it.

Tbh I'm disappointed that Faye (pink wig, red tips) didn't join Astreal. She was super cute and seemed to improve really fast (tho she was in like 2 performances)

>>10110527
I'm guessing it's due to her being more so the friend of Mimi than any of the others?

>>10110522
Buying likes is a big no from me. Buying the promotion thing on FB/IG is one thing since you pay to get advertised in a way, but what's the point of having empty likes on your facebook page if those "people" don't really care about your content? Unless you're litterally doing it for clout only, then go ahead and boast about your like I guess.

>>10110522
In this case, I don't think they bought the likes. They both have a lot of Facebook friends and followers, so it wouldn't take too much for a few posts to get noticed by a lot of people who have them added. It's not like Teya's group that shot up to 8k likes in a couple of weeks. 200 seems believable for a new group asking for the first time for followers, so we'll have to see where it evens out before making any judgement.

>>10110631
I hope they didn't, it's never worth it. Followers and likes only matter if they're actually interacting.
I've spent probably more than I should on advertisements, but at least from that i've gained genuine supporters, not just empty numbers

Anyone else following the latest "net idol confession" page that's popped up? Pretty good source of cringe.

>>10110764
What the fuck

https://youtu.be/CKQDZP6kNAI
In other news, I’m starting to believe Virtual Live need to fix Boundless Dreams because the English and the Japanese versions sound very weird live. It may just be the people performing or generally the environment, but neither San or Julily sound that great singing it. They’re also doing two different dances so I’m confused. Did Julily just wing it?

>>10110797
It seems like the problem lies within the composition of the song itself rather than the performers. And if you think about it, the song is really high and notes are hard to hit.

>>10110806
That’s what I was thinking. Whoever wrote the music and lyrics didn’t think about the singers or only thought of it with one singer in mind.

>>10110764
Saw this one. Imagine saying you wish you could get noticed with being yourself and being told you’re entitled and are discrediting other people’s work. Lol.

>>10110806
When I got called back, that’s where I got stuck. No matter what, the second part of the chorus was just unsingable. I had the same thing happen with a previous group, where I couldn’t figure out what notes I was supposed to hit, because my voice wanted to make it actually sound good.

>>10110808
Lol the comments, Jesus Christ

"How dare you suggest that making card edits isn't as difficult as actually performing live"

>>10110797
The best part was the chorus

>>10110797

Dear God this is awful. The song composition is just terrible. Definitely too high range for Julily, this made my ears feel like they were hearing nails on a chalk board. If this is what that group is gonna release, I am not here for it.

>>10110808
Big Yikes. Last slide did give somewhat of a "woe is me" vibe but the amount of overreactions lmao
Idk why but the way it's worded gives me sakurahana vibes? (Not to draw negative attention to her, just an observation)

>>10110808
Big Yikes. Last slide did give somewhat of a "woe is me" vibe but the amount of overreactions in the comments lmao
Idk why but the way the confession is worded gives me sakurahana vibes? (Not to draw negative attention to her, just an observation)

>>10110522
I don’t know an idol who does it but I’ve seen a cosplayer do it.

>>10110797
>those fucking incels and orbiters in the audience doing the calls
This. This is what you aim for. Why?

>>10111057
i think its fun
its definitely better than performing for a dead crowd, that's for sure

>>10110492
here’s the post that went up today relating to this image

>>10111082
It’s good that she’s taking a break, I hope she learns not to take on so many projects at once

>>10111057
>implying incels want anything to do with real life women

>>10111057
>implying incels would actually go outside to watch real, live women having fun

>>10110970
Nah she didn’t write that. She commented replying to whoever it was though.

>>10111103
Oh shit I didn't see it!! Thank you for pointing it out

Actually her comment seems to be more positive than usual?? Glad she's feeling better!
Though I do wonder why she keeps bringing up the anon sites, since she says it's an uncomfortable topic for her? Maybe trying to normalize it so it's not as painful ig

New thread >>10111120

>>10111082
>idol and magical girl vibe
Is that not what she had been doing the whole time already?

>>10110522
Hm idk, 200 likes in less than a week isn't even a lot and doesn't even seem like grounds to believe they bought likes in my opinion, if next week they suddenly have 2000 or somethingg, that's different. i can name other idols and groups who have done it, and much worse than just a small 200 facebook likes, so i wouldn't be all taht concerned about 200 in a week whether or not it's real organic likes, or bought.... at least they aren't buying post likes, that's always extremely obvious and awkward to see

>>10110797
it's too high for them, at least for the ones we've heard so far. They should pitch it down a notch or practice a LOT to not have to sing the high parts completely in falsetto.

>>10099625
Stripes so easily look terrible and cheap

>>10110522
I don't see how 200 people like this shit. Maybe standards are low but the quality of everything was literally shit tier.

This thread is seeming to sage

>>10117191
This thread hit the bump limit a couple of days ago. The new thread is here >>10111120