/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

You can also post your replica horror stories here!

>>10079359
This seems like a post from someone who is looking for good replicas
“Yeah post the link for a “closer” look!!”

>>10079367
I agree. Don't post the links but post examples so we can be vigilant. Some replicas are easy to spot, some not so.

>>10079359
before teal HL existed

>>10079385

>>10079387
never forget.

>>10079388
Indications of a replica:
>longer lace than original
>print is low res
>no detail shots
>wonky proportions
>no tag
>suspicious low price
>minor to major printing flaws
>cheaper lace
>dress length is wrong
.etc

posting all these as conversation starters since i have bad eyes

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>>10079399

>>10079401

Please end his misery

>>10079405
I honestly want one of these terrible usakumya replicas. They’re just so fucking derpy

>>10079412
where do you even find one of these bc i want one bc of how stupid they look LMAO

>>10079396
I'm kind of scared bc I got my one at a very good price on y!A (literally for £142 with the socks) and now I'm freaking out.

>>10079404
What is this crime against Mana.

There’s a shit ton of replicas on Taobao but you can never identify which image is the actual fake product they’re selling. Probably what they mean by “closer look”.

Like so

>>10079419
It could still be genuine, but at that price I would expect it to be quite worn in or have some visible damage.

>>10079385
do you think this is why AP started to switch manufacturers so often?

>>10079462
It looks pretty legit to me, there's a number of things that the replica features that mine doesn't. I'm feeling better about it, reckon I just got a great deal.

>>10079412
I want to adopt this one

>>10079412
I want one as well

>>10079397
This replica haunts me. First I saw it in person at an ILD event, then I saw someone wearing it at Rufflecon.

>>10079385
>tfw the lace on the bottom edge looks nicer than AP

>>10079401
Oh boy this piece of shit. How did they even think this could be passed off as brand? Are there any worn pics?

I know there are a LOT of replicas of Cadre du Chat but I haven't seen many other JetJ replicas. There was a Carps Sherique one also but I can't find the picture.

I know there are a LOT of replicas of Cadre du Chat but I haven't seen many other JetJ replicas, so it was interesting running across this one. There was a Carps Sherique replica also but I can't find the picture.

I really hope that someone has the picture of that girl with one of the most godawful holy lantern replicas i had ever seen. The shit was literally faded like it had been through the wash one too many times, the material was thin, the silhouette was atrocious. I regret not saving it.

>>10079551
This one? I don't know why she doesn't just throw it away and get a real one. There's no excuse to have a shitty replica after AP released the series 6 fucking times.

>>10079549
How could you identify this as a rep? The derpy face/head?

>>10079562
Yes that one! Oh my lord!

>>10079577
Because it was for sale on Taobao for around 350 rmb, and the store also had a lot of cheap Misty Sky and Holy Lantern. I regret not saving any of the comparison pictures against the original, but I did grab this one of Ballerine.

>>10079578
She's in my comm. I cringe every time she wears that nightmare to a meet.

>>10079399
What brand is this print from? I’ve never seen it before?

Someone literally just put up a cdc replica skirt on LM

please just burn your trash

>>10079588
I compared mine with my friend's real one and they're literally the same
I ended selling as it was the original one kek

>>10079652
There's a chance this is bait, but I do wonder how often this happens (and not just with Nameless Poem and Astrology Cat and stuff like that). Some of the Jewelry Snow replicas look really convincing in pictures, and that one store does the Babydoll JSKs with the exact same lace.

>>10079656
i know a lot of the strawberry witch replicas look just like the real deal. i accidentally bought one once and when i realized i was super surprised. I actually am guilty of scalping to a newb for that dress too but i'm ashamed of it

>>10079657
Remember that girl a couple months ago who wanted to buy specifically the Kidsyoyo replica of Carnival and not the original bc she thought it looked better? Sometimes the newbs are literally asking for it.

The most impressive replica I've seen is probably this one, not sure how they sourced the exact same fabrics but wow. Kinda glad I don't wear red.

>>10079611
Call em out.

I'm glad there isn't, but I'm surprised there apparently hasn't been a Honey Cake replica. I bet that even some people with the real dress would be willing to buy a replica bag, too

>>10079537
Isn't the lace design from Moitie?

>>10079412
Anyone have a link? I will actually get this derp.

>>10079667
yikes that's unfortunate

>>10079713
I don't have a link but if I recall correctly jil punk X Lolita has an eBay store and a taobao store.

>>10079419
It got rereleased recently and the value's gone way down on it. It often goes for just about retail now.

>>10079562
i know this is a rep so the cut is off but
>when you're so fat you literally fill out a sack dress

>>10079667
There's no way that replica is cheap then. At that point, why bother buying a replica?

>>10079838
It's about $90, so still quite a bit cheaper than the original. And with readily available supply, which I suspect is the kicker.

>>10079838
i owned the kidsyoyo carnival replica at a time when people didn't really care because carnival was old, taobao was new to the western community, and re-releases weren't a thing yet. as far as replicas go, its a nice dress, though i don't own it anymore.

>>10079705
Holy shit anon. Everyone says moitie lace is exclusive but it does look like theirs. Can a moitiefag confirm?

>>10079889
Moitiefag here can confirm it's their St Peters Cross lace design. She probably made it to go with her Iron Gate replicas (that was the lace design used on IG). But if I recall it was a godawful replica of the lace that frayed everywhere and felt like sandpaper and she only did maybe one run of it. Mana's curse I suppose.

>>10079845
I'm referring to the dress in your image, not carnival.

>>10079938
>dress in your image
Yes, my comment was about the same dress, not Carnival. They're selling the replica full sets with capes for around $90. One sold on LM last year for nearly 10x that.

>>10079947
>sold on LM
Although presumably, that one wasn't a replica.

>>10079588
Honestly, both of these look cheap as fuck.

>>10079947
>$90 for that much sewing alone, let alone materials
That's just sad. I don't understand how someone can willingly buy this and not feel guilty.
I'm curious how the rest of the dress compares considering the original has boning.

>>10079985
A friend of mine in China works at a clothing factory that makes a lot of knock-off Western designer type items (not lolita). She said it's 100% for other Chinese people and not for export, and something about how most people don't really care if something is designer or not as long as it appears to be designer. There seems to be a lot of societal pressure there to "keep up with the Joneses", as it were.

>>10079992
I guess whether you can afford it or not doesn't matter when you're stepping on other Chinese people getting paid pennies. Or you know, having things made by prisoners since companies don't have to pay them and they don't have workers rights.

Does oojia even make them anymore ? Lol

>>10079777
Retail isn't $142 though, anon still got a good deal (or was scammed)

>>10081648
They are still active on FB and they still make stuff if you message them.

I have a Holy Lantern replica fron my earlier times and I don't know what to do with it. It's actually pretty good quality (obv not the exact same as the real deal but still pretty good, it's from Oo Jia) but I feel a little bad wearing it. It's beautiful and I look good on it, but I'd want to sell it. The problem is that idk who would want to buy a not-so-cheap replica. Any advice, gulls?

>>10081901
post it on depop you'll sell it pretty fast

>>10081901
If you're on facebook there's a sales group where replicas are permitted, it's groups/thriftylolitas

>>10079412
Same kind of want the derp lol

>>10081901
don't wear it to lolita meets, sell it, or maybe make something from the fabric

i have the melty cream donut replica, bought secondhand so idk the original maker. the only differences that i've seen online is the angelic pretty text in the background. finally bought the real dress tho so this ones becoming some nice couch pillows!

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>>10079433
That’s not true, usually they have the dresses side by side and mark one as original and one as the replica if they’re not just one of those random run of the mill mass produced designs that every shop has

>>10079667
What dress is this?

>>10082843

Up until you run into a previously ""respectable"" taobao brand that used to create their own stuff suddenly just making a whole release out of pirated replica fabric. Single-handedly brought down the rep of taobao lolita stores by making it even harder to point newbies to stores that definitely make their own stuff, since up until this point you could safely say "this store makes their own stuff" and then suddenly bam, replica print.

>>10082849
I don't think you understood the conversation correctly. OP was talking about how it's difficult to differentiate between images of the original dress and images of the replica, since the sellers tend to post both. It would be obvious which is the replica in the case you provided.

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>>10081936
Thank you, already put it up for sale! Hope it gets sold soon!

>>10079810
I think it says more about how the dress is structured rather than her weight desu.

>>10082851

My bad, sorry. Before it got deleted I thought it traced back to a comment about not always being able to tell whether a random item is a replica or not, because shops don't always label a replica as a replica. Milu Forest being case in point, they always did original designs and this wasn't even correctly named as a replica, it's just up on their shop along with their other original designs (as far as I can tell anyway).

>>10082226
The lace also says AD instead of AP.

>>10079611
Report it.

>>10081661
They said £, not $, depending on when they got it that could have been around 200$ or slightly more. Could be legit.

>>10079404
This looks like a goth dress I'd find on wish lol.

>>10082957
Good luck Ana!

This store even put up the original stock photos so you can compare their replica....

>>10082849
This reminded me of another taobao store that used replicated Meta fabric to make this dress. Nostalgic Chessboard isn’t particularly popular either so it’s really confusing.

>>10083260
I always wonder if this is replicated fabric or like... first runs where the print wasn't good enough for the Japanese brands. The latter would make sense for unpopular prints, because then the fabric is just sitting there anyway and probably gets sold cheaply for other stores to use.

>>10083286
I actually also wondered that. If Meta authorized the sale of bunk fabric would this be a gray area or still a print replica? Then again, if what you are saying is true, the more plausible scenario is that the fabric supplier just sold the fabric without Meta’s knowledge therefore making this still a replica. Sorry for the tinfoil conspiracy.

>>10083308
Well I can't imagine Japanese brands wanting their original designs floating around on fabric that can be sold to anyone, so it does still make it design theft/a replica. Given that China doesn't really care about design theft, I imagine the taobao stores don't see it as a wrong thing to do.

>>10079656
I want to see the jewlery snow rep. Post that link

>>10079359
>username is Lolita
>post replicas, anon!
>post taobao links for "closer look"
Let's not post for this questionable newfag. They want to support the replica market and possibly buy them to pass off as real.

>>10079394
I think bows are always dead giveaways. The saddest bows always mean replica, like the center one there.

>>10079652
Proof or it didn't happen.

The side-by-sides like this can be really deceptive because they're trying to make you think the replicas can be just as good as the original. Anyone who looks at the construction or touches a replica immediately knows.

>>10082849
I wish we still had Chinese Gossip. I remember her saying there's this hierarchy in their community where the replica makers are kind of double hated because it's a uniquely Chinese problem. A lot of the "legitimate" taobao shops just open another shop to sell replicas on the side so it's never a good idea to support them. Apparently the Chinese who appreciate brand just loathe them and that's why they don't support Chinese brands themselves.

A surprising one that did it was To Alice, which even opened up in Japan and did very well there. Apparently it baffled Chinese lolitas because it's made by "a dirty siscon" brother who sells replicas and helps run To Alice, then the sister gets a lot of the money to buy real brand.

>>10083344
It's bait, even from the pictures you can tell which one is the replica because it uses less fabric for gathering.

>>10079436
oh my god I forgot about 'soft sister'

also how very retro

Rip my first dress ever was a replica of Cream Cookie. Honestly it’s fairly good quality but I think I might burn it or something. That or keep it to wear as a joke at some event wear I can completely ruin it (mud wrestling, a color run, etc.)

>>10083406
mud wrestling in a replica sounds like quite the H O O T .

>>10083406
Make some cushions! Or small hair bows, or wrist cuffs? It's just between us anon ;)

I bought an AP Celestial JSK replica to compare to my real one before. I think the replica shop already shut down (it was called Orange), but frankly the replica was pretty convincing. The main differences were
1) The sheer layer on top of the dress.
Although this layer visually looked the same, the sheer fabric of the replica was scratchier and slightly stiffer, while the original was smooth and soft. However, you would likely not be able to tell without it being put side by side with an original dress and examined.
2) The amount of fabric used
This was mainly noticeable for the sheer layer, but there was less fabric gathered up for it. If the original used 2x the width of the dress to gather into ruffles, the replica only used 1.7x the width of the dress. However, this also was not noticeable unless you compared side by side closely, The printed layer of the dress was fine with the amount of fabric used for the gathering, though.
3) The shape of the dress
The cut of the sheer layer of the dress was a little too small on the bottom, so the sheer layer mushroomed out a tiny bit when worn with a petti, instead of laying nicely like the original. This is probably only noticeable if you're on the larger side.
4) The bows
I've seen this issue with most replicas, but the bow was not as neat as the original bow, and had slightly less structure to it. However, it was not so bad to be noticeable without close inspection.

I actually made a thread about this dress back then, taking close up pictures of it and pretending I was someone who had bought it off lacemarket and wasn't sure if I had been scammed. 100% of the gulls who commented on the thread thought it was the real deal from the pictures I provided of it. I also put it side by side with the real one in another post, without stating that it was a replica, and it wasn't called out Frankly, unless you already knew it was a replica, you probably wouldn't be able to tell even in person.

>>10083406
If you burn it, can you post the webm here?

Seriously, though, burning replicas is a good thing to do. They pollute the market and letting them go even secondhand keeps them floating from buyer to buyer.

>>10083441
Nayrt but I had a couple of old replicas and gave them to the 8 year old who lives next door for dress-up purposes, those are dresses that will NEVER re-enter the market but serve a better purpose than air pollution.

>>10083332
We’ve already covered that the person wants replicas, get over it. You’re late

It’s so obvious that this whole thread is probably just bait

>>10083452
>thread is still going
>ur late
Salty, OP?

>>10083452
Salty, OP?

>>10083412
What were the tags like on the dress? Did it still say angelic pretty?

>>10083412
Why would you buy one from the original shop just to compare? What is wrong with you

>>10083646 ( gasp )
For science

>>10083791
Then buy it secondhand if you must? You're willingly giving money for them to create more replicas. Are you dumb?

>>10083446
That's a really sweet idea anon.

>>10083646
Cause I’m not a moralfag, I just wanted to compare quality.

>>10083614
No, there were no tags on the dress so that was a dead giveaway.

>>10083861
Not everyone cares, moralfag.

>>10082226
Angelic retty

>>10083908
What does it have to do with morals? You're willingly giving China more money and encouraging the degradation of the market because "comparisons".

>>10083910
Thank you! All that info is good to know.

>>10083954
It may come as a surprise, but not everyone cares about the shit you care about, moralfag.

>>10083984
>who cares about lolita fashion and if the Chinese ruin it for everyone

>>10083942
Angeltic Bretty

>>10083987
>waaaaa why don’t people care about whst i care about?!?!?
>plus a side of racism teehee

>>10083954
Upset the Chinese have more money than you? Chinese brandwhores care about quality too, that's why there was that shitshow over those VM dresses

>>10083954
>chinese want the degradation of the market
please. not all chinese people are cheap and shop for shit on taobao. outsourcing is how they make most of their profit, fuck off with your racist shit

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>>10084098
>defending Chinese replicas by calling it racist
That's a new spin.

>>10084039
Salty Chinese taobao scum. Only a small percentage are actual brand buyers and they rub it in the faces of the cheap replica taobao brands. Those ones are fine, but everyone else just steals, whether they are open about it or not. Hell, even To Alice is apart of it and they're a "legitmate taobao brand".

>>10084098
anon disliking how the chinese government abuses its people to make higher profits from idiots like these replica-chana is not racist, it's talking down on a system that oppresses and kills its own citizens so that some cheapskate can get their 10 dollar shirts and 30 dollar lolita dresses

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>>10084210
>xd i hate chinese ppl they're ruining my precious fashion!!!!
>don't gib the ebil chinese money!!!1!!11
>wh-what? i-i'm not racist uwu u-ur just dumb!!!!
>why don't ppl care about what i care about?!11!1?
yikes

>>10084296
u mean xenophobic u big faggot huge

>>10084297
it's racism when it's directed towards people of a certain country, dumbass

>>10084296
>>10084298
>just buy cheap fast fashion garbage from a country that violates human rights
>destroys the environment consistently with no repercussions
>is the sole reason lolita replicas exist, whether you want to face it or not
>let's not even get started on how they execute their own people, harvest their organs, and are throwing muslims into violent "reeducation camps"
Or I can buy better clothes from Japan, a country that has actual ethics? It's not like China isn't the literal execution capital of the modern world and is responsible for mass design and art thievery.

Nah, just keep being a mindless consumer because you don't want to be told by some brain dead anon you're "xenophobic" and "racist".

>>10084296
>just buy cheap fast fashion garbage from a country that violates human rights
>destroys the environment consistently with no repercussions
>is the sole reason lolita replicas exist, whether you want to face it or not
>let's not even get started on how they execute their own people, harvest their organs, and are throwing muslims into violent "reeducation camps"

Or I can buy better clothes from Japan, a country that has actual ethics? It's not like China isn't the literal execution capital of the modern world and is responsible for mass design and art thievery.

Nah, just keep being a mindless consumer because you don't want to be told by some brain dead anon you're "racist".

>>10084317
>art theft
Nayrt and a but off topic, but I've been to china before and I was told by a local that there was another city nearby where the majority of the city was in the business of painting van gogh replicas. They would train to learn how to paint certain parts of the painting and it would be painted through an assembly line of people. These would later be sold off. Made me a bit sick, honestly.

>>10084317
>art theft
Nayrt and a bit off topic, but I've been to china before and I was told by a local that there was another city nearby where the majority of the city was in the business of painting van gogh replicas. They would train to learn how to paint certain parts of the painting and it would be painted through an assembly line of people. These would later be sold off. Made me a bit sick, honestly.

>>10084317
Some japanese brands made their stuff in china tho

>>10084317
Clearly you drink the Trump MURICA koolaid too hard to realize this applies to your own country, but
>is the sole reason lolita replicas exist, whether you want to face it or not
KEEEEEEK
God you are delusional. Stay racist, nonnie.

>>10084317
>>just buy cheap fast fashion garbage from a country that violates human rights
>>destroys the environment consistently with no repercussions
>let's not even get started on how they execute their own people, harvest their organs, and are throwing gays into violent "reeducation camps"
This is talking about 'Murica right?

>>10084317
DESU the Muslim reeducation camps aren't a bad idea, Europe should try it sometime

>>10084296
You're actually stupid if you believe that having ethical consumption morals equals racism. or this is just some bait, can't tell yet.

but if it's not, how about you realize that when you directly fund a capitalist system set up to kill its own people you are only encouraging them to do the same. just because someone's chinese doesn't mean they're immediately absolved of their wrong doings retard

>>10084481
>>10084513
You guys are like stupid Eurofags or Chinese on their leash, aren’t you? They’re destroying Christian churches and anything pertaining to religion, including ancient temples and a lot of Chinese history.
>hurdur sounds just like America btfo
I can accuse my government of anything I want without being executed or having religious institutions destroyed. Nice try on trying to leave all that out and also they’re still the execution capital of the world that’ll kill you for literally any dissent.

>>10084481
>KEEEEK China is not the source of all replicas you see polluting the market
Show us proof of non-Chinese replicas then.

>>10084604
Probably the same people who think Trump is putting journalists lives at risk by criticizing them, not realizing other countries literally just kill or jail forever journalists critical of the man in charge.

>>10084533
>imagine being this edgy

Let me ruin y’alls day and post links
我在淘宝Lite发现了 可爱的街拍英伦风日本网红蝴蝶结斜跨单肩包链条款小号风潮爱心,一起来看! https://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=583548536556#modal=share&timeStamp=1548176150033

British bear anyone ?? 我在淘宝Lite发现了 现货软妹日系原创AP软妹 lolita可爱女装泰迪熊印花jsk op连衣裙,一起来看! https://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=560766395696#modal=share&timeStamp=1548176545231

This only matters to those who want to buy shitty Chinese reps

>>10085977
Damnit, this is my dream dress. >>

Milky Swan ?? 我在淘宝Lite发现了 夏季复古洛丽塔日系少女软妹jsk连衣裙lolita公主洋装日常礼服女,一起来看! https://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=566983438328#modal=share&timeStamp=1548176788644

Cherry m something 我在淘宝Lite发现了 【现货发】AP格子樱桃草莓LOLITA连衣裙OP 送边夹,一起来看! https://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=541871923986#modal=share&timeStamp=1548177030285

The infamous Melty cream donuts replica, ever since I saw this thread I’ve been digging these up to drop one day 我在淘宝Lite发现了 尾款!Melty Cream甜甜圈收腰型吊带裙无袖连衣裙\粉红色、生成色,一起来看! https://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=41885733234#modal=share&timeStamp=1548177092597

I low key want this coat 我在淘宝Lite发现了 特价B品亏本处理!旋转木马大衣蝴蝶结羊毛大衣!瑕疵亏本价!,一起来看! https://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=42704404253#modal=share&timeStamp=1548177286730

High quality red riding hood baby rep 我在淘宝Lite发现了 baby小红帽 lolita,一起来看! https://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=582293397479#modal=share&timeStamp=1548177525712

Holy lantern 我在淘宝Lite发现了 【莫漠小污】十字架日系软妹蝴蝶结JSK黑白暗红 lolita吊带连衣裙,一起来看! https://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=555005973777#modal=share&timeStamp=1548177710188

Misty sky 我在淘宝Lite发现了 【现货】 小白云洋装可爱百搭洛丽塔 软妹雪纺蕾丝花边 吊带JSK,一起来看! https://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=574746799311#modal=share&timeStamp=1548177830871

This one is also on eBay from the seller cutieprincessdoll 我在淘宝Lite发现了 新款 玛丽的不可思议假期 lolit jk op,一起来看! https://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=564345010422&spm=a21wu.9600033.recommend.7&main_itemid=559501782852&go_item_id=564345010422&pvid=426e19f3-82cc-4036-895f-094d42c21134&utparam=%7B%22x_object_type%22%3A%22item%22%2C%22x_object_id%22%3A564345010422%7D&scm=1007.20269.110938.1002003000000001#modal=share&timeStamp=1548178050586

Have fun replica shopping lmao https://ebay.com/usr/cutieprincessdoll

>Anonymous (Troll)
Ah, yes. The best ones have to spell it out.

>>10085977
I bit the bullet and actually purchased this. Don't kill me... it's my dream dress, okay?

This one is pretty bad.

>>10086089
The bodice is atrocious compared to the real one and the fabric is shiny.

>>10086081
Same but beware. The op sleeves by the cuff might have a part of the AP border. There’s a post about it on Tumblr.

>>10086081
have fun knowing you own a fake, anon.

>>10086095
Shut up, it would be a good place holder for when she finds and can afford the original or if they rerelease it later. Let people enjoy things.

>>10086102
Why are you so obsessed with instant gratification? Learn some patience.

>>10084604
>I can accuse my government of anything I want without being executed or having religious institutions destroyed.
Must be nice being a white christian.

>>10086081
>i-it's my dream dress
>buys a shitty copy of it
Embarrassing. You don't deserve your dream dress.

>>10086081
It's literally on fril right now you idiot.

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>>10086002
Nice, I have the real ones of quite a few of these so I’ll buy them to make some comparisons soon. Thanks anon!
>triggered racist muricans reeeeing in the background

>>10086225
Be sure to post them on here!! Glad to help ! Also glad to help that girl get her dream dress for way cheaper, enjoy.

>>10083326
Welp I wasn't gonna post links but "anonymous troll" threw a bunch in so who cares anymore. Jewelry Snow is in the same store as the Fairyland Red Riding Hood.

>>10086385
Honestly these are pretty easy to find anyways, all you have to search is "ap lolita" or "baby lolita" and a ton of replicas show up.

>>10086387
Eh some of them are tricker, there's one store with JetJ and 3F and Leur Getter replicas. The one with Jewelry Snow is the same one that has the Babydoll JSK with supposedly 100% accurate lace.

>>10086385
Also let's not forget that people ask for links to RHS approximately every 12 hours. it's kind of interesting I suppose how someone can be tech savvy enough to navigate the chans and shopping services but somehow not be able to search for the word "bodyline" on taobao

>>10086387
Also let's not forget that people ask for links to RHS approximately every 12 hours. it's kind of interesting I suppose how someone can be tech savvy enough to navigate the chans and shopping services and just 2019 in general, but somehow not be able to search for the word "bodyline" on taobao

Translating a review left for the Jewelry Snow replica:
When I opened the package, four buttons immediately fell off. The dress had a strong smoky smell throughout it.
My real dress is still on the way, but I could immediately see that the print was cut off on the bottom.
(Updated review)
1. Neckline bow:
The bow of the replica is shorter, and the snowflake print on the bow is gold/light yellow. The pin is a normal safety pin (not a safety pin with backing).
The real dress has a longer bow in comparison, with white printed snowflakes on the bow, and the pin is a backed safety pin.
2. The dogteeth lace (the trim at the bottom of the sheer layer) is not the same.
3. The transparent buttons are not the same.
4. The print on the skirt:
The print of the replica is gray, the snowflakes are thinner than on the original print and the AP logo is cut off.
The snowflakes of the original are white, the snowflakes are thicker, and the logo is complete with extra space between the bottom of the logo and the lace.
5. The skirt lining is different colors.
The replica is dark navy, while the real dress is a brighter navy.
6. The replica is not up to standard.

Top is the real dress while bottom is the replica for both pictures.

>>10086410
Top is the real one for the left picture, and left is the real one for the right picture.
山 indicates the replica 正 and indicates the real dress, for clarification.

>>10086413
Left real, right replica

>>10086414
Top real, bottom replica

>>10086418
Top real, bottom replica

>>10084533
Was about to say the same thing but you beat me to it. Too bad I don't like Taobao, I'd like to support Muslim some re-education camps.

>>10086485
It's more like torture of anyone who believes in any religion and also anyone who dissents against the government. Don't look up "The Dying Rooms" btw. Oppression of Chinese citizens is so kawaii.

>>10086530
Man you really chugged the koolaid

>>10086225
>buying replicas of innocent Japanese brands to beat Trump and murica
I want to believe you're actually that retarded because it's funnier than cheap bait.

>>10086562
No, it’s cause I like to compare the quality. Sorry racist-chan, triggering you is just a funny bonus.

>>10086562
No, it’s cause I like to compare the quality. Sorry racist-chan, triggering you is just a funny bonus.
>innocent japanese brands
The same ones who get all their dresses produced in China? What happened to dont support the ebil commie chinas uwu

>>10086622
Japanese brands sometimes produce in China these days because unfortunately it isn't usually profitable to produce in Japan and many Japanese factories have closed. You're definitely new because it wasn't always like that. It's part of the fast fashion decline in lolita and China sucking away life from decent, humane factories literally anywhere else in the world. It's a very hard thing to watch, especially for any oldfag in the fashion witnessing quality decline from gorgeous old pieces.
>inferring I buy cheaply China made new AP in bulk MTOs
Jokes on you. Made in Japan Moitie for life.

>>10086651
Lol you're nuts, nothing I said implied anything you're trying to explain away.
Fact is, according to your own standards, Japanese brands aren't "innocent" because they're supporting the ~evil Chinese~

>>10086214
I got a bunch of dream dresses that have no replica. I just learn to be patient.

>>10086622
>Do all Chinese make replicas?
No.
>Are Chinese the sole replica makers in lolita and perpetually polluting the market with these pieces?
Yes, actually.
>Do some taobao brands make both replica storefronts and "legitimate" indie storefronts at the same time?
All the time and it'd surprise you who does it.
>Is it racist to therefore not want to support the wildly unaccountable Chinese market?
No.

>>10086712
>All the time and it'd surprise you who does it.
nayrt but what are the surprising ones?

>>10086712
What the fuck are you quoting lmao

>>10086712
What the fuck are you quoting? Nobody asked or implied those questions.
Choosing not to support the Chinese market for your own morals isn’t racist, saying “don’t give China money!!! you’re degrading the market if you give china money!!” “china kills everyone who has a religion!” “everything from china is cheaply made garbage!”
Yes, that’s racist, sorry to break it to you.

>>10086410
>>10086413
>>10086414
>>10086418
>>10086419

Wow, thanks for translating the review, anon!

I don't know about anyone else but the little detail of having the buttons swapped out to a plainer one kind of made me mildly mad, like it's almost mocking that anyone who bought a replica only deserves the cheap buttons. The overlay being yellow-tinted and the lace being pure white is legit one of the most annoying things I've seen in awhile, though.

>>10086874
If you're referring to the top picture for >>10086410, the white lace is actually the real lace and the silver lace is the replica!

>>10086878

Not that one. >>10086413 the two dresses are laid side-by-side and the overlay ribbon marked as 山 (replica) looks distinctly dirty and yellow. It's not even being next to the real thing that makes it look dirty and yellow, the bow laying against its own replica dress trimmed with the whitest lace of purest snow, making the bow look yellowed, dirty and gross by comparison.

Like I get that this is maybe me being overly nitpicky but I just cannot unsee a dirty, ageing, ribbon that was maybe dipped in pee or something. Kind of grateful Jewelry Snow isn't something I'm interested in owning.

The silver lace doesn't really pop anything this bad for me, it's just this yellowed bow that's really gross. That, and the infuriating little plain button.

>>10086815
They quoted how stupid you sound and the spergy SJW nonsense throughout the thread, low IQ chinese snowflake-chan. You're the one thinking people not wanting to buy chinese garbage replicas and shitty taobao is racist. Guess all of good lolitas are racist uwu.
>>10086003
$94.90 for a replica that "benefits charity" kek

>>10086887
>They
Kek, nice try racist-chan. Learn to greentext and read. I'll greentext the parts you missed to give you a good example for both the things you need to work on!
>Choosing not to support the Chinese market for your own morals isn’t racist, saying “don’t give China money!!! you’re degrading the market if you give china money!!” “china kills everyone who has a religion!” “everything from china is cheaply made garbage!”
>Yes, that’s racist, sorry to break it to you.
Virtue signal all you want, but blatant racism is blatant. Are you that triggered that brands cater to the Chinese now?

>>10086898
Everyone on 4chan is the same person.

>>10086899
Isn't that what you're assuming?

>>10086898
do you even know what "virtue signaling" means, sjw-chan?

>>10086906
>You're willingly giving China more money and encouraging the degradation of the market
>You're willingly giving money for them to create more replicas.
>ethical consumption morals
> you directly fund a capitalist system set up to kill its own people you are only encouraging them to do the same
> I can buy better clothes from Japan, a country that has actual ethics
>It's not like China isn't the literal execution capital of the modern world and is responsible for mass design and art thievery.
>It's more like torture of anyone who believes in any religion and also anyone who dissents against the government. Don't look up "The Dying Rooms" btw. Oppression of Chinese citizens is so kawaii.
>They’re destroying Christian churches and anything pertaining to religion, including ancient temples and a lot of Chinese history.
>I can accuse my government of anything I want without being executed or having religious institutions destroyed. Nice try on trying to leave all that out and also they’re still the execution capital of the world that’ll kill you for literally any dissent.
Do you?

>>10079412
>>10079713
Found it.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lolita-White-hooded-bunny-polar-bear-puppet-Backpack-JM4001A-/400300727117?hash=item5d33c85b4d

>>10086081
i hope you end up in the scam
thread crying about how milanoo tier this dress is

>>10086920
That big ol' greentext is one big truth.

>>10086930
>what I wrote is the truth!
Okay sure whatever you want to believe, doesn't make it not virtue signaling though.

>>10086950
See >>10086899

It's really obvious you're some salty Chinafag lol.

>>10086954
See >>10086899
And nope, I think China has a corrupt government and a lot of fuerdai chinese are obnoxious, but I’m just not racist and dumb enough to believe every American sensationalized article. Sucks when your world view is challenged, huh?

>>10086980
>>10086925
>>10086898
Sounds like you can't handle your world view changed, Chinachan. This is pretty salty. >>10086920

Your people make replicas and only your people make replicas. Taobao "brands" are full of thieves. Get over it. I like how you can only reeee and call random anons racist and you can't counter replicas and stealing at all. Truth hurts.

>>10086989
>y-you called me racist so you have to be chinese!
Alright Racist-chan, whatever makes you feel better. Holding so much resentment towards a race must be exhausting, so let it all out.

>>10086989
>y-you called me racist so you have to be chinese!
Alright Racist-chan, whatever makes you feel better. Holding so much resentment towards a race must be exhausting, so let it all out.
Hope you come to the realization one day that the Japanese brands you hold so high up in esteem support Chinese companies, be it in production and labor, sourcing materials, etc. Try not to blindly believe everything sensationalized headlines feed you, either, especially coming from America, a country that literally has a trade war going on with the country in question. I haven’t mentioned replicas at all, and sure, it’s true most replicas come from China. That doesn’t change the fact that >>10086920 is still virtue signaling and most of the anti-chinese sentiments you’ve expressed in thus thread are still racist (and completely unrelated to replicas in the first place). Truth hurts, huh?

>>10086989
>Taobao "brands" are full of thieves.
Not that anon but can somebody please post a damn link to these "stealing" shops?

I know there are unreputable rando stores or replica-only stores like the ones linked ITT, but multiple anons have stated actual taobao lolita brands sell replicas/steal designs and I've yet to see any names.

based china throwing fags in the brig

>>10086712
Did you forget about Bodyline?

>>10087044
Bodyline replicas are real and a sight to behold. I wonder if anyone still owns some.

>>10087048
I had the poodle one from my beginner days all the way up until last year. It got lost when I moved, rip.

>>10087044

You're playing into their hands, anon. Bodyline is a chinese company. Yan is a chinese name. So that still makes it a chinese company selling replicas to the Japanese, even before taobao become a thing.

>>10087054
I'm pretty sure Bodyline is still a Japanese company, even if Yan is Chinese, since its main operations are based in Japan. Google was founded by a Russian immigrant and Procter & Gamble was founded by British immigrants, but the companies are still considered American.

>>10087094

Every time Bodyline puts a foot out of line (replicas, stealing designs, crowd-sourcing designs then stiffing the winners/designers, model competition harassment, etc) it being a chinese company and Mr Yan being chinese gets brought up. Look through its checkered past, but actually look at the discussion. Since the dawn of its days as the "cheapskate walmart of lolita" people have been pointing out that it's a chinese company that doesn't behave with proper Japanese decorum, unlike the other Japanese burandos.

That's why I said you're playing into their hands. You brought up the one company that everybody already keeps blaming being chinese for being shady af.

>>10087094
Maybe if they didn't sell Chinese knockoffs.

>you're just a racist!!
>>>/tumblr/
>>>/twitter/

>>10079388
I love that they steal the photo from AP and have the nerve to watermark it so nobody steals it from them

>>10079404
oh god the warping on the print hurts my eyes

>>10079404
is this a hot topic replica? tf?

>>10087140
The CEO of a company being Chinese doesn’t make a company chinese.

>>10087461
Bodyline is a Chinese storefront, anon. Not going to call it a brand because it never has been and that goes back to even its earliest days. They’ve had Japanese store fronts, but the CEO and his waifu quite literally lived in the Chinese factory.

How come CTP never got a replica is a mistery for me

>>10087518
I thought it was sold to a Japanese company some years ago and Mr. Yan retired

>>10087552
Yep

>>10087518
>I’m not even going to call it a brand because it never has been
Then you don’t know what a brand is. It’s not burando, but it definitely is a brand. Walmart is a brand too.
Having a previous Chinese CEO and having products made in China does not make it a Chinese company, anon. Bodyline has always operated out of Japan, had all storefronts in Japan, and is now even owned by Japanese while still selling replicas. It’s a Japanese company.

>>10087589
You are really reaching for straws here. Bodyline is a poor hill to die on. Japanese lolitas would never call it brand and it’s still looked down on there. It’s just a sexy lingerie shop turned costume shop that treats lolita like a costume too. It was inferred that they were cheap outfits for sexy times, hence Japanese lolitas loathing it.

Looking back, it’s really funny because Bodyline was like the tacky Chinese taobao before taobao, making horrible replicas and low quality lolita to leech off of legitimate brands success. It’s like China based companies never changed.

No, it’s not a burando on the technicality that you can say Bodyline is a literal “brand” that has had Japanese locations. If I open a Japanese store front but am european and manufacture in Europe, it doesn’t make me nor my clothing Japanese lmao. No, it’s completely Chinese and it’s funny that once again, a Chinese seller is a thorn in the side of real Japanese brands.
>b-but it was sold
So if the new owner is somehow not a Chinese person and is white or something, it makes it Japanese burando? Come on now. It wouldn’t change its origins, how it continues to operate by majority Chinese, and how Chinese factories are the only way they can sell such cheap, low quality lolita.

This was my first dress when I was 14...payed 200€ for it because I thought it was Angelic Pretty...learned my lesson

>>10087654
im so fucking sorry

>>10087635
You must have reading comprehension issues. No one called Bodyline burando. Being a brand is not the same being burando. Walmart is a brand. Target is a brand. Infanta is a brand. AP is a brand that is also classified as burando. Are you ESL?
If you're the CEO of a company that only opens storefronts in Japan, sells goods directed towards the Japanese market, and bases all their operations in Japan, yes, you'll be classified as a Japanese company. Having goods produced in China does not make a company Chinese, otherwise 95% of the companies in the world would be Chinese. If Apple's next CEO is Chinese, would it become a Chinese company because their products are produced in China? Apple even has a ton of stores in China and markets to the Chinese market, which Bodyline does not.

>>10085977
I know a girl who owns this replica and dared to add it to her wardrobe album.

>>10087771
Why even mention Bodyline is a brand and in Japan unless you're trying to infer something? Saying "Bodyline exists in Japan and is a corperate entity" is fucking stupid and doesn't need to be mentioned.

>>10087779
You brought it up yourself in >>10087518
>Not going to call it a brand because it never has been and that goes back to even its earliest days.
I even clarified it already in >>10087589 but clearly your reading comprehension isn't top notch.

>>10087779
You brought it up yourself in >>10087518
>Not going to call it a brand because it never has been and that goes back to even its earliest days.
I even clarified it already in >>10087589 but clearly your reading comprehension isn't top notch.
Regardless, even if it isn't burando, Bodyline is still a Japanese brand.

>>10087795
Not everyone is whoever you're fighting, dumbass. I have no clue what you're trying to convey. Bodyline was made by Mr. Yan who is Chinese and lived in China and had some Russian wife in his factory lol.

>>10087803
>I'm totally not the same anon!
Okay sure, then you need to learn to read a thread before replying. Please reread the literal post you replied to in the first place >>10087771

>>10087803
>I'm totally not the same anon!
Okay, then why are you replying to a thread without reading any of the replies that would have explained exactly what you're confused about?
Newfags, I swear.

>>10087817
An sjw calling anons newfags kek

>>10087828
>a company based in japan is japanese
>SJW!!!!!
Okay newfag, lurk more andactually read before replying.

>>10087803
Most have given up arguing with this idiot. Don't bother trying.

Aside from >>10086410 this thread is just a bucket of bait so old and played out it could attend elementary school. Embarrassing.

>>10087888
Replying to yourself is embarrassing anon

>>10087548
Too expensive to buy at the time for the replica makers and no one wanted loan it to any of them. That is the only reason why puppet circus replica exist, ojia had a loan of it to get the print copied.

Love this thread, already bought like three replicas thanks

>>10086927
It’s only $20, calm your tits