/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Are con raves actual raves or just like normie discos, but for weebs?

>>10069738
>Be me
>At Momocon rave
>See qt blonde girl as Spider Gwen
>Ask her to dance
>Start vibing each other/getting into it
>Start really getting a closer look at her face
>Ask her how old she is
>”Does it matter”
>Tell her it absolutely matters
>”Ugh what are you fucking gay or something”
>She elbows me in the gut and kinda storms off

Boy I think I dodged a bullet with that one

>>10070540
>”Ugh what are you fucking gay or something”
sounds about right to me

>>10070607
Nah just don’t want Tyrone to make me his bitch in some Georgia jail

>>10071384
Tyrone is out and he's buff.

Con raves are for people who have never been to a regular rave. Its filled with people over doing it on E or way too drunk.
I went once and thought it was boring. I have more fun taking shots outside the conrave for every person who gets taken away in an ambulance.

>>10071454
> taking shots outside the conrave for every person who gets taken away in an ambulance
kek

so literally just a bunch of kids having baby's first dance party

>>10071384
>yfw Tyrone is Spider Gwen

>>10069738
>Go to AWA rave last year solely because I wanted to see Teddyloid, raves aren't usually my thing
>friend brought some edibles he got while visiting some marijuana legal state
>Never tried marijuana before
>Friend and husband both encourage me to try it
>Decided what the hell and tried just half of one
>Feel great for most of the rave, weed not really kicking in
>right before Teddyloid comes on it kicks in
>Fucking dying, feeling like I'm absolutely plastered
>Had to leave
>Mfw I didn't even get to see Teddyloid perform because I tried weed for the first time at a weeb rave like an idiot

>>10071905

Why the fuck would you do marijuana at a rave?
You're supposed to do party drugs at parties.

>>10071905
Did it end well after you left?

>>10070055
lots of DJs are artists for anime OSTs or popular remixers or youtube artists or etc. Generally they're remixed/anime themed OSTs. Kicking it to a zelda trance remix while the lights are going is pretty damn enjoyable.

>best rave was a con that no longer exists
>DJ is pretty forgettable but it was the environment
>con head notices rave is dying so he carries his room party, room bar and all, into the rave
>open bar in the rave
hnnng

acen's is pretty decent each year but i feel the smaller raves are much more diamond in the rough potential. aka they can be bad but equally likely to be diamond in the rough. as mentioned with above story, it was a tiny event. I miss doing small cons like that

>>10072376
>Kicking it to a zelda trance remix
That doesn't seem so bad and would be more up my alley in terms of sound desu

The only con I visit here every other year does have some sort of club or disco in the evening hours, but I never really bothered to find out what it's like there. The same location is pretty boring during the day and the advertised DJs don't seem all that great, or maybe the advertising sucks.

>tfw would totally dig a live Hiroyuki ODA set
>tfw it will never happen

>>10069738
They are gay. The music is gay and the people are disgusting.

Best rave I ever went to was kamicon when they still did it at UA. Mostly cause non weeb college students were sneaking in for it. All the raves at cons at places like hotels were smelly and lame

Semi-related but how do you even get hired to play at cons?

>>10075767
Network/find whoever books entertainment for the con and send them a demo mix w/ your social media.

Currently waiting to see if I landed it for a con in March

>>10069738
Best con rave I ever attended was Fanime last year (2018), specifically Friday night. The DJ played late 90s/early 2000s hip hop bangers as well as a few gems from current top 40. It was so lit, I danced my ass off all night.

>>10075767
Pretty much what >>10079141 said with the added caveat that some cons have open demos for their smaller nights/main nights and others are invite only. Usually, they will make an announcement prior about a form you can fill out but a lot of crews run deep and only book their friends.

Lot of promoters/people that book for it are kind off defensive about it so if they get any word of you playing like large room parties or setting up renegades in hotel space will blacklist you.

Also not all cons are equal in terms of comp and what they provide you gear/service wise. Typically most cons will just give you a badge and that's it. The one year I played Otakon they just gave me a badge and had me fend for myself, didn't answer questions about if they had CDJs or not, had to find out via outside means. Youmacon they outright lied to me that they had CDJs for me to play on then when I stopped by the rave the night before I played they told me the dude who owns them was gonna bounce the next morning and I had to drive 2 hours that night back to pick up mine.

Any tips on learning how to dance? I always feel like I'm manually moving my limbs.

>>10080023
you shouldn't be flailing your limbs so much as moving your body. keep your feet hips width apart and practice making figure 8 shapes with your hips and your shoulders to the beat of music at home in front of the mirror. youtube tutorials are your friend, watching kpop tutorials is fun and full of trendy/current dance moves to upbeat music. if you're truly self conscious, a local dance studio will have a beginner "hip hop basics" class you can drop in for a few sessions before the con.

It's kind of funny like cons try to call these things 'electronic dances' to avoid the stigma and associated drug use that raves have, but then play songs about molly and shit

>>10080119
Moms care more about the flyer/event page than a tracklist

>>10080038
>watching kpop tutorials
Never though about this one, they're pretty fun. I've just been looking at the usual how to dance at a club videos. Thanks!

>>10069738
I only like con raves when I'm on drugs, and I'm afraid of using drugs in countries where I can't get them tested.

>>10071905
Teddyloid is a pos

>>10080159
>>10080119
it's more about the hotel/convention building insurance not allowing anything called a "rave" to happen on premises

>>10079524
this sounds terrible but perhaps i've been rused

>>10080023
you just fucking move to the rhythm man.

dont go learn some gay ass dances from youtube or a dance class and start doing those by yourself on the dance floor. you will look like a fucking weirdo

i have pretty bad social anxiety, but i've played rhythm games my whole life (stepmania, osu, itg, etc.). so when i am in a situation where i am really digging the music, it is not hard for me to move to it

it helps for me if i have at least 1 friend with me. if i am in a group of 3+ i am fucking set.

oh yeah, and alcohol helps *A LOT*

>>10080023
What >>10082476 said 100%.
Dance the way you do when you're alone, you can look good/natural with "bad" dance moves compared to doing super focused Fortnite dances.

t.Black

>>10070540
he of consent in GA is 16. Pretty sure if she looked passable enough for you to approach her in the first place, she was at least this age. Sounds like you fucked up to me.

>>10070540
>>10083141
The way she acted sounds childish, and children are annoying and fragile

>>10083176
Nigga nobody said you had to live with her. I've stuck my dick in annoying before. Just gag the bitch and leave the next morning (preferably with the gag still on her and locked with a key that you take with you)

>>10083196
Virgin

>>10083196
Said the virgin

>>10071384
She wasn't actually calling you gay. A female calling a man gay as an insult in these situations is a way to goad men into doing what the female wants by making the male feel insecure.

Its a go to insult for manipulative sluts who think to highly of their own appearance.

>>10083196
Thats how you get arrested for regret rape.

It's so interesting to see what people want out of a con rave. Like >>10079524 - this sounds absolutely terrible. Why the fuck would you go to an anime con rave, and want to/expect to hear top 40? Go to literally any other club to hear that kind of shit. Zelda trance remixes >>10072376 would make me roll my eyes, but at least it's relevant to the event.

>>10072421
Start requesting cons to book him, then! If you see a con has a past history of booking JP international guests, throw his name in the ring. Put his name down in a con's feedback page, comment about it on their social media, etc.

>>10079853
Youmacon's rave is notoriously run like shit, despite occasional getting decent local talent. Shit blew up the last couple years when they let it out in the app that they only give you a non-guest badge and that's it, even though it's a 20k person convention lol

Waaaaay too many raves just hit classic top 40s (or mostly have it playing), it's annoying. I want to hear anime music, plenty of OPs and EDs are banging enough to play, yet they play really unfitting music. If I wanted to hear current music, I'd be at a normal club baka. A lot of raves do the classic 80% normal 20% weeb, which is still ass. DJs don't know what they're doing, even a dedicated anime watcher (let alone a weeb music expert) could name enough songs for 1-2 hours of fun.

Youmacon's rave is usually pretty good. DJs aren't stellar but damn solid - playing actual EDM. Line's a bit long but w/e. Cute dancers and the MC is great at hyping up the crowd.

>>10069738
These aren't a thing here, unfortunately. Seems fun as fuck.

animenext in nj has a great rave, one of the things I look forward the most at that con. its an absolute shame it only goes for about 2 hours if I remember correctly. not even close to the average which is 5 hours.

I wish I could find a venue that can get me the same sound that animenexts rave gives me, no other place I've been to has the same feel with the dj and the crowd.

Ikkicon had BIGHEAD, was playing some dope vocaloid songs. Wasn't the headliner for the main dance unfortunately, cause he was better.

>>10069738
>Be 18/F
>Attended 'The last JACON'
>Some weeb in army fatigues and a wolfs head runs around groping girls
>Everyone on full alert
>Go to rave. Dark ballroom, butt to gut.
>Suddenly feel a deep searing pain in my eyes mouth and throat as chaos erupts around me
>Several people are affected, 2 hospitalized
>MFW some dumb bitch thought she saw the perv and decided her pepper spray was effective as a flashbang

I'm going to ACen this year, what are the EDM events there like? I've never been and only been to one other anime con in the US before.

I'm looking forward to it, although I'm not totally sure what to expect. I've only been to anime EDM type events in Japan, so I'm not sure if that's remotely comparable. I'm kind of expecting a bunch of drunk 18 year olds throwing up honestly.

Best AWA rave was 2017 when Teddyloid and Daoko did a set. Worst was that time someone pulled the fire alarm at like 2AM and everyone had to evacuate

>go to con rave
>some guy DJing some Fortnite stuff
>meh, why not
>start flossing even though I'm a boomer
>some girl gets near me and starts flossing with me
>make out with her
>get her number
>later find out she was the DJ's gf
Felt weird, mang.

>>10091356
Still hyper bummed Teddyloid didn't actually make it out to last year's ANext. Hoping they'll get him this year

>>10096326
ACen's Synergy on Friday is the closest con rave that replicates electronic music events in Japan (in the Midwest). Attack The Music does good work.
>soap bubble a shit

>>10096801
How’s it like being a chad anon?

>>10096326
>I'm not totally sure what to expect
Expect an extremely long line.

I remember a few years back I was pretty close to the front of the line, maybe about 40 people in front of me. I got there early and have been waiting fairly patiently for quite a while at this point. Suddenly there's a fire alarm and everyone is evacuated. Being at the front of the line I'm more or less fucked and the order more or less gets flipped around when they let everyone back in. Somehow I end up at the middle of the line. Start waiting for a veeeeeeeeeery long time.
"HEY EVERYONE, SYNERGY IS CANCELLED. IT IS TOMORROW NIGHT INSTEAD. TONIGHT IS NOW THE SOAP BUBBLE."


I think I had been waiting for about 2 hours at this point and didn't want to potentially deal with shit again the next day.

>>10097016
Oh that's gotta suck hard. Hopefully that was a one off.

>>10096922
Nice. I'm looking forward to it, and ACen in general, more and more.

>>10097063
Things don't normally go like that.

>>10069738
>walk into yaoicon rave holding a bottle of wine
>look over and see a messy free! cosplayer fingering and making out with a girl on the dance floor
>yaoi playing on big screens
>ok time to leave

>>10097850
>yaoi playing on big screen
>yaoicon

did that really surprise you?

>>10097016
soap bubble that night still had some of the acts from Synergy so it was pretty awesome, basically 2 synergies back to back

>>10097063
don't really pay much attention to anything else at ACen, but I can vouch that Synergy/Attack The Music is great.

Is it just me being biased, or are con raves just a bad idea? I feel like cosplay / fandom cons attract a lot of shitty people who need therapy, so when I hear the suggestion that they're all going to get together and start doing drugs / drinking, I feel like they're at best going to be no-fun retards who get shit faced and flame out, and at worst, lose their minds and get into retarded situations rather than just chill out and have a good time like my SAE bros and I. It's like these guys just can't really handle partying.

>>10097016
I heard all the Japanese DJs got denied at customs - the people who book them either have to get a hella expensive entertainment visa or have someone with them to help them lie their asses off to say "I'm here for vacation" when they get asked on what they're doing here in the US

>>10098871
You're either LARPing or haven't actually been to a con rave/any rave

>>10098871
Boring bitch nigga detected

>Best.
Eh?
>worst.
Pretty much all of them

I've never really enjoyed raves. Either I feel awkward and alone, or I'm drunk and I feel awkward and alone and drunk.

It's a funny thing, because I really enjoy small-venue concerts. The sort of place where everyone is pressed together as one big mass of people.

On the other hand, raves always seem like a ton of people in close proximity dancing by themselves.

>>10091360
It seems like some of the earlier djs are usually better than the headliner

>>10101214
What you're describing happened last year. I want to say my story was from 2015, but my memory is a bit shitty.

>>10102188
You're right, it was 2015, and this >>10101214 they're describing what they think happened last year.
>I've heard other reasons on what happened last year but it's all hearsay and rumors

>>10070055
autism discos

>>10101886

Because small-venue concerts are a group of people all focusing on the same thing, ie- the concert. So you feel connected because you know everyone else is paying attention to and liking the same thing you are. It's easier to connect because you can easily say "hey, I love the electric guitar in song x" or "that's a new arrangement for song y, I wish they included that in their CD" and immediately the other person can give their reply directly.

Raves, you're right. Most of them are off in their own little world. Some are there to dance. Some are getting/already high. Some are/already drunk. Still others are doing the mating signals looking for a quick bump. Some just want some time away from their SO/roommates/whatever shit. You never really know what's up with any random person you bump into, which makes every encounter its own minefield.

Fair disclaimer: I don't enjoy raves either.

>>10102317
This is a very good way to think about it.
In addition, honestly, at the concert, you go from 10 ft from the stage to 5 ft from the stage with basically no input from yourself, just one mass of people.
A rave seems like it'd be similar, but it's not. everyone is in very close proximity, but as you said, off in their own worlds.

>>10072013
Marijuana is a criminally underrated dance drug(especially with drinks), though obviously not too much with no tolerance.

Been trying to DJ for cons for a few years now. I dunno how I make that jump into the scene. I don’t think it’s ideal to bother DJs after a rave just to try and nab a spot down the road. I’ve already offered to con hosts before with no feedback. Luckily it wasn’t anything terribly serious so I don’t think I’m blacklisted. What do?

>>10070540
holyshit are you fucking gay?

>>10102795
Network, figure out who is in charge of booking the DJs for the con. Don't be too annoying about it though. Also, just be good at what you do.

>>10102795
Apply just like everyone else.

>>10072376
This. The A-Kon rave wasn't bad a few years ago. The Tekko raves were mediocre at best until last year when DJ's started mixing anime & vidya themes. They got a better light show and put anime clips on the screens, it improved 100%. I hope they don't revert this year. But when the DJ just plays normie club music at a con it's dull, they dropped the ball. DJ's aren't there just to play music, they gotta entertain by speaking the ppls language weather it's an anime con or a sci-fi con or whatever.

>>10098871
That's a grand sweeping blanket statement. That's like saying I don't go to gas stations because a lot of shitty people who need therapy need gas and an ax wielding tranny might be there and attack me. There are bad apples in every bunch, no matter what the social clique is.

>>10103808
If you mean just straight up anime and video game music then that sounds like it would be god awful. I'd rather listen to “club music.“
If you're talking about remixes then that seems fine.

>>10102311
Wait, you mean to tell me this happened *again* last year?

I was at Synergy 2015. That was so frustrating. It's getting to the point it happens every year. What other con does this?

>>10103880
Just straight up anime and video game music wouldn't be a rave.

>>10096794

damn, you went to animenext too? its not a con unless someone pulls the fire alarm

>be me, visiting far off city for con
>decide i’ve weaseled my
way into staying at a girl’s room before and i can do it again!
>spend saturday looking to hook up with a girl
>meet a nice girl at the rave
>everythingslookinupMilhouse.jpeg
>end of the night she takes me back to her car
>think ‘oh i guess we are going to her house’
>”oh i can’t rake you home, i live with my parents. but we can do it here”
>spend sunday covered in two people’s dried sweat and shame

>>10069738
Not from the official rave, but:
>A-kon 2012
>Friday night, chilling in the room
>Friends who were wandering around come back
>"Hey, we found a way to get to the top floor, the view is great, let's go get some pictures of the full moon!"
>Everyone grabs cameras and heads up
>There about 15 minutes, snap some pictures, enjoy the nice view of the Dallas skyline
>Two con staffers show up
>"Hey, why are you here? Are you part of the secret rave?"
>Nah man, we're not cool enough to get invited to secret parties, we're just taking pictures
>Show them our cameras
>"Well, you seem legit so I'll warn you"
>"There's a rave going on on the roof that's accessible from here"
>"Supposedly it was organized by some older dudes and there's a lot of underaged girls drinking and doing drugs"
>"The police are on their way right now--you should leave"
>We all GTFO

I never checked the police blotter or anything, so I don't know if this was actually legit. Maybe they wanted us out of there for some other reason, but I remember one of them seemed serious and the other seemed drunk and pissed off that con responsibilities had interrupted his partying.

>>10070540
>She elbows me in the gut and kinda storms off
Holy shit what a garbage human being. Imagine how she acts towards people she actually knows if she's willing to assault a total stranger for not being a pedo.

I like when the DJ plays dubstep that's impossible to dance to because it changes tempo and beat constantly

>>10071905
>Go to Sakura-Con 2018 to see TeddyLoid
>set canceled
>hear rumors about how he didn't even get on the plane to fly over
day ruined

>>10109866
same

>>10107108
>Someone is a pedo for banging someone 17.99999 years old vs 18
Lol k

>>10109882
Maybe you don't care but the law does, and nobody wants to be a sex offender

>>10109866
blame USA's extremely strict visa laws/regulations.

>>10070607
Then years later if you don't care it matters, the then underage thot accuses the person of rape/pedophilia

>>10072376
>Youtube, artist. Still wondering how these two words could ever go together.

>>10069738
Is there a reason cons are so scared of calling them "raves?"

>>10110584
see >>10080779

>>10109882
We don’t know how old OP is, anon. It’s sus.

>>10110552
was there actually some kind of legal issue that didn't let him fly over?

>>10110584
just the term 'rave' carries the connotation of illicit drug use. wrong type of vocabulary to use when signing up for permits and such.

>>10111773
I'd bet 100 bucks on visa issues being the reason why, yeah.

>>10080192
Did anything in particular happen? I know he skipped several shows last year but I heard they were from visa issues

>>10111773
Apparently SAK screwed up the paper work.

>Midwest Fur Fest
>DJ is playing his own extremely low energy House Music
>No one is digging it
>no one likes it
>everyone is awkwardly bobbing along at best
>he starts mumblesinging into the microphone
definitely the shittiest one I've been to