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Last thread hit limit.

You know the rules.

>> No.10058515

>>10046288
this is practically the same fucking thing, it's a bunch of people looking for online comms. keep it in one thread for fucks sake

>> No.10058517

>>10058515
oh but wait, there's more! an entire list just for you anon.
>>10053859

>> No.10058526

and why did this thread need to continue? not every thread needs another when it dies. People can just look at the archives if they want to find a comm.

>> No.10058529

Lurk more noob

>> No.10058569

>>10058515
>>10058517
>>10058526
>>10058529
This thread is for online Lolita community drama not for finding comms

>> No.10058576

>>10058569
They read 'lolita comms' and immediately assumed.

>> No.10058583

>>10058569
>>10058576
not labeling your shit properly is probably why half the lolita threads get OT or pissy for being in the wrong thread, don't expect correct/relevant responses when the thread doesn't even have "drama" or "discussion" in it.

>> No.10058584

>>10058529
>>10058526
Wow how new are you?

>> No.10058587

>>10058583
This thread subject always has this title you fucking walnut. Also, neither of the people you replied to are OP so maybe check that the posters and post count don't have the same number before replying, newfag.

>> No.10058594

>>10058587
Always ? I think this thread is pretty new to the board still. Online drama has been posted in other threads related to to that thread .

>> No.10058607

>>10058587
i replied to the anons i intended to, you braindead ape.
>>10058594
there are SEVERAL drama threads that aren't even drama threads it's almost pointless to make a thread about it. gulls bitch about anything and everything in every thread - see: ita threads, where a lot of the drama is.

>> No.10058609

>>10058594
>https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/cgl/thread/9244634/#q9244634
Newfag confirmed. It's had the same name since at least November 2016. Lurk more before you talk out of your ass.

>> No.10058612

>>10058515
>>10058517
>>10058526
>Being this assblasted over a new thread
you know you're not the thread boss, right?

>> No.10058623

>>10058612
No one here is bossing
Just stupid to make a thread that was pretty slow before , and not even posting drama after making the thread. Meaning what.. there is no drama and or if there is drama it’s being talked about in other threads.
If I were a thread boss, I’d say dump some tea if you’re goint to start a new drama thread. Why make a thread when there is no drama ? Idiot.

>> No.10058629

y'all need to stop taking the bait

>> No.10058643

Anything happened on ruffle chat recently?

>> No.10058649

>>10058643
Just the stupid pet play girl saying she was going to wear skater dresses as lolita. That's old news now though

>> No.10058659

I enjoy these threads and if they're slow-paced it's okay, when something happens someone will post.

>> No.10058818 [DELETED] 

Tyler is a nigger apologist ugh

>> No.10058844

What’s with all the newbs on Rufflechat?

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>>10058844
I have no idea... It never rains but it pours

>> No.10058853

>>10058848
> uwu

>> No.10058858 [DELETED] 

>>10058853
I don't think I grabbed a screenshot of this, but a while back on RC a noob made a post that ended in "uwu" and someone called her out on it ... she replied:
>this is an uwu safe zone
No. No it is not.

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>>10058853
Reminds me of this one
>uwu safe zone
No. No it is not.

>> No.10058889

>>10058864
I just can't understand posting in any FB Group without search first.......

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10059346

>>10059336
It’s kids like this in Lolita that make young Lolitas look bad

>> No.10059357

>>10059336
>Angelic Pretty only do one size

Pffffft

>> No.10059366

>>10059336
Fuck I hate when people don't post the size. Like is it really that hard to whip out a measuring tape or find your shit on lolibrary?

>> No.10059379

Re: recent drama

I don't understand the "bitching without making an effort to fix the issue" thing. If you hate pale aesthetic blogs because you feel unwelcome there, then make your own contrast aesthetic ones. Show people how great poc look in pale colors by providing adequate OC and supporting the pastel poc community.

There is literally nothing we can do for you when it comes to this. We aren't black girls. We can't take cute pics of dark legs under ivory silk sheets. We don't have any tips for darkening skin or makeup styles that accentuate your features.

This is all on you. Harassing and bitching about our community in shared spaces isn't going to fix anything. You are the only ones who can provide representation of that aesthetic, who can foster a community of its participants.

Quit bitching and get to work.

>> No.10059425

>>10059379
They have separate groups. But now people are bitching
>why is there a black lolita community group and not a white one?!

It's a never ending cycle. Just shut the fuck up and stop beating a dead horse already

>> No.10059430

>>10059379
>There is literally nothing we can do for you when it comes to this. We aren't black girls. We can't take cute pics of dark legs under ivory silk sheets. We don't have any tips for darkening skin or makeup styles that accentuate your features.
Isn't that why they have the black (make up, hair ,Lolita,etc)groups?

>darkening skin
What? Just standing in the sun will do that.

>> No.10059432

>>10059379
I thought M had a blog and social media filled with her and her friends in Jfashion.

>> No.10059443

>>10059379
I don’t even feel there’s a reason to be offended by “pale aesthetic” blogs when they inherently have nothing to do with skin color. Yes more pale women are featured on them but it has to do with the clothing, lighting, objects etc. And even if it were about pale skin what’s so different from of it compared to blogs all about black skin aesthetics? Black women get so angry at anything they aren’t automatically the center of and it’s so stupid. Just because your ~melanin~ isn’t associated with something doesn’t mean it’s bad, racist, or not meant for you.

>> No.10059451

Can someone please post the Lolita discord channel link? I’m stupid and can’t log back into my account to get the address for my SS and I’m at the post office. Fuuuuuuuuuuuucccck.

Thanks.

>> No.10059498 [DELETED] 

>>10059379
Black people do make their own groups and communities, and then white people start getting angry and going "Why a black J-fashion blog/thread/group?! Why not just J-fashion?!?! I am uncomfortable when we are not about me? What if I made a white J-fashion blog/thread/group??" like that's not 90% of garden variety J-fashion communities.
We literally can't do anything without you people complaining, except disappear and die. Try to be included in existing things, get told to fuck off. Make our own groups and drum up positivity, get random white people bursting in uninvited and accusing us of being wacist to them.

>> No.10059499

>>10059379
>>10059443
Black people do make their own groups and communities, and then white people start getting angry and going "Why a black J-fashion blog/thread/group?! Why not just J-fashion?!?! I am uncomfortable when we are not about me? What if I made a white J-fashion blog/thread/group??" like that's not 90% of garden variety J-fashion communities.
We literally can't do anything without you people complaining, except disappear and die. Try to be included in existing things, get told to fuck off. Make our own groups and drum up positivity, get random white people bursting in uninvited and accusing us of being wacist to them.

>> No.10059636

>>10059499
Yep,pretty much. Black people are not allowed to do anything fun.

>> No.10059637

>>10059443
>pale aesthetic blogs
> inherently have nothing to do with skin color.
>pale
>skin color

Are you feeling ok?

>> No.10059659

>>10059379
From the ita tread
>pale aesthetic is a visual scheme, not a race thing, so white people can't be offended at hating on it. It's just like hating vaporwave.
Is a reaction to why a black person is totally valid hating on it for excluding black people, and "fuck your pale aesthetic" can sound racist and rude.

It's either connected to race or just a "visual scheme". How can something only be racist to one race, but not the other, without being racist just because of that?

>> No.10059660

>>10059443
This

>>10059499
No, its the hypocritizy that you complain about being excluded on skin colour then go on exclude people based on skin colour that makes them mad. And not many like hypocrites, no matter race.

People making a pale aesthetic block tell you to make your own black aesthetic blog. People focusing on black skin tell you to fuck your pale aesthetic because they feel excluded. You really don't see the difference.

>> No.10059661

>>10059660
>>10059659
Are we still talking about extreme parallels with pale and black or are we in the middle with tan and yellow

>> No.10059692

>>10059660
Then why don't you actually bolster black people who want to be included? Why are your pale aesthetic blogs okay, but you suddenly care about racism when we do it for ourselves after being told to piss off for wanting to be a part of it? Those communities wouldn't exist if white ones weren't so happy to exclude and erase anyone with dark skin. No one made a pale aesthetic blog after being excluded. That's the difference.
You're the only hypocrites for not seeing that.

>> No.10059825

>>10059660
>>10059692
In the end, is it about race or not?
It's about aesthetic. Some people dig super pale skin.
Suppose it's not about skin. Let's say there is a blog only for skinny lolitas.
Or a blog only for girls with big boobs.
Would there be the same backlash?

>> No.10059833

>>10059825
>It's not about race, it's a 'skin-color preference'

>> No.10059834

>>10059499
You're acting like the same people who tell you to fuck off are the same people who are offended by you creating your own communities. They aren't.

Also, you're going to attract negative attention if you attach race to literally anything, so stop being such a dense motherfucker. Instead of calling it black j-fashion, if you want to attract a more positive attention, call it dark aesthetic j-fashion. Either deal with the whinging because it will never go away or change your terminology.

>> No.10059837

>>10059833
this is what some people actually told me. What do you think?

>>10059834
dark aesthetic j-fashion sounds retarded.
When it's just about the fashion, it should be for anyone.
When it's about specific skin-color related topics, for example, people will automatically exclude themselves.

>> No.10059839

>>10059837
>dark aesthetic j-fashion sounds retarded.
Just as retarded as naming something black j-fashion specifically relating to race and pretending it's not going to cause people to criticise you.

Complain about whatever you want. I don't give a shit. I'm just telling you, put your big girl panties and deal with the whinging bitches or change your terminology to not be so 'excluding'. You're trying to address and reason with people who don't care about being addressed and reasoned with.

>> No.10059865

>>10059443
Pale aesthetic blogs are absolutely about skin color. You're thinking about pastel fashion blogs, which are a different thing altogether and have no reason to exclude certain races. Pastel fashion blogs may include aesthetic posts but generally put their emphasis on j-fashion coords / items / events.

"X" aesthetic blogs have a bigger emphasis on photography, art, and sexuality. They're inherently designed to fetishize certain traits or techniques. These blogs then attract people with those traits, interests, or related fashions and can influence how they ultimately style themselves. "Pale aesthetic" generally refers to this, not to pastel j-fashions in general.

Aside:

Just like all dark colors look black-ish on pale skin, all light colors look white-ish on dark skin. This means the color shifts between pastel shades are less obvious when worn by darker lolitas. It's not "bad," just a very different overall aesthetic. (Your undertones also affect this. It's why a coord that looks great on one person can look so meh on another, even when their race and height and figure are similar.)

>>10059834
>You're acting like the same people who tell you to fuck off are the same people who are offended by you creating your own communities. They aren't.

This. Believe it or not, people can disagree with you while simultaneously disagreeing with each other. Most discussion topics have more than two sides invested in them.

>> No.10059873

>>10059366
Look it up yourself fatty. If you want to know the truth, I record either the lolibrary size or if that's not available, I will absolutely measure it completely unstretched or under-estimate the max measurement if I take measurements myself. Just doing my part to prevent stretching of the brand.

And before you reply yes, I have a disclaimer about my amateur measurements and reserve the right to refuse any sale at my own discretion. Many of us do.

>> No.10059875

>>10059834
>>10059839
So, why don't the same people who are offended by us ever get offended when their own kind do it? Can you show me any white people objecting to pale aesthetic blogs not featuring anyone who's dark skinned, at all? Why is it fine when someone is obviously being racist, but won't explicitly acknowledge it, but when people who experience that racism say "We made this thing for ourselves because the racism from others is too much", it's suddenly an outrage? Look at the cause before getting mad.
>Instead of calling it black j-fashion, if you want to attract a more positive attention, call it dark aesthetic j-fashion.
"Dark aesthetic J fashion" will just result in white people shitting up the tag with black clothes and pale skin. We made "black goth girl", "black alt girl" and "black kawaii girl", and these people are still too dense to understand that it's not for them (unlike the 5400000 other tags), or they just don't care (unsurprising).
Just leave us alone, or fix your own group's problem with us that created this mess in the first place.

>> No.10059876

>>10059346
But... she's right?

>> No.10059954

>>10059876
I think the comment was directed at the young person in the screencap previous.

>> No.10059957

>>10059954
Oh, I see. My bad then. I thought anon was against sizing being posted together with the product.

>> No.10059959

>>10059873
>I measure
I'm not talking about people like you. What the fuck are you even replying to? Your comment makes no sense in context.
>fatty
I don't like to buy shit 90cm or shorter, but nice reach

>> No.10059974

>>10059839
I also think black girl j-fashion is retarded.

>>10059865
These blogs might me about skin color, but in the end, this is aesthetic. If I don't like the look of a certain trait, that doesn't mean I'm racist. If I'm fascinated by girls with blue eyes and make a blog for this aesthetic, would it be racist?
It could be a front for racism or racist people, but it doesn't have to be.

>> No.10059991

>>10058848
In this case I'm certain this translates into 'buy the minimum I can to wear the fashion because I'm cheap or a poorfag'. Actual minimalists don't use much emojis, things like uwu, qualifiers in parentheses, etc. Her whole approach to that post is decidedly non-minimalist. I'm guessing a minimalist lolita would start by buying a few main pieces in one or two color ways that could mix/match most of the secondary and accessory pieces.

>> No.10060005

Can racism just end thanks

>> No.10060035

>>10059379
My thought exactly

Also, even if I was saying all day how much I love pale skin this wouldn't mean I'm implying dark skin is hideous or something. Can people just stop feeling offended by non-offensive things?

>> No.10060095

>>10059366
I don’t mind with brands like AP because I can just look it up on Lolibrary but when people don’t list the size on an IW piece that comes in multiple sizes it annoys me so much. How hard is it just type S, M or L? And no, “fits European size 36” doesn’t fucking help because I want the measurements of this particular piece and don’t care what size the seller is. Especially if they don’t disclose whether they’re selling because if fit issues.

>> No.10060124

>gulls still bitching about race
this shit is getting old. Can you mayo assed bitches stop being so buttmad about black people having separate groups?

>inb4 seething black chick
I’m white and I’m not bothered by black people having separate groups. It has nothing to do with me or you. Let. It. Go.

Also black gulls, ignore pale aesthetic groups. They will never listen and it’s not worth wasting any breath over it.

This is some weak ass pol tier circlejerking.

>> No.10060141

>>10060095
I think there’s an obligation to list the published size from the brand, if it is stated, and nothing more. I get apprehensive when someone asks me about max measurements because 1. It’s hard to both hold and measure with shirring stretched and 2. Max measurement, even if accurate means the garment measurement with no ease. Meaning that the buyer should be 2-4cm smaller than any max measurement regardless. Which as we all have seen in giant boob-loaves, often is ignored.

So I’m always paranoid of bad feedback and I won’t do measurements on request or speculate if it will fit x-sized bust, waist, whatever. I may lose a sale here and there over it but I’m also sure I’ve dodged a few bad reviews over size issues too.

>> No.10060183

>>10059875
Because pale aesthetic doesn't include race in it's title. Is your skull really this thick you fucking retard? People don't fucking care if you have a blacks only club, people care if you call it a blacks only club.

Also black people are the first ones to cry racism and people get sick of it, so it's people just giving you a taste to what gets done to them.

Again stop trying to reason with people who tried to be reasoned with. Whether or not you think their reason is justified doesn't stop them from doing it.

>Just leave us alone, or fix your own group's problem with us that created this mess in the first place.
>>Implying its me who gives a shit about your nignog club
Then fucking restrict who can join the group? I literally don't care what you do, I just offered you the explanation of why this happens and what you can do to fix it. If you don't like that, find then but stop crying about it because you're just as bad as all the other crying retards.

>> No.10060233

>>10060183
If "pale" is not a racial word, neither is "black". It doesn't have to be explicit to not be racist. And I see you're retarded, but reread
>Why is it fine when someone is obviously being racist, but won't explicitly acknowledge it, but when people who experience that racism say "We made this thing for ourselves because the racism from others is too much", it's suddenly an outrage?
And try to understand. Really try. Why are you happy with implicit racism? Answer that, if you can.
>Also black people are the first ones to cry racism and people get sick of it, so it's people just giving you a taste to what gets done to them.
Yeah, you're totally not just complete hypocrites. You totally don't get emotional over this. Sure.
>Then fucking restrict who can join the group?
Restrict entire tags? Okay, idiot, lmao.
>>Implying its me who gives a shit about your nignog club
>I literally don't care what you do,
You clearly do care a lot, or you would've fucked off long ago, trailer-chan.
>I just offered you the explanation of why this happens and what you can do to fix it.
Your explanations and ideas are useless shit, and you're a dumbass. Grow a few more brain cells before trying again.
>If you don't like that, find then but stop crying about it because you're just as bad as all the other crying retards.
You're the only ones crying, you tards can't help but comment on everything, even when no one asked for your opinions (see: Jessica and you screeching at any black group ever).

>> No.10060238

>>10060233
I'll say this once again, stop being so deliberately thick trying to red herring and strawman the entire argument. I can see you're much smarter than this but you're deliberately pretending like you don't understand anything.

I'll repeat this again just for you, the people who tell you to get the fuck out of certain lolita groups are not the same ones who cry about you making your own lolita groups. They are different people.

Either deal with the turmoil or change how you do things. Simple.

>> No.10060280

>>10059346
Why wouldn't it be okay to include size? It immediately let's someone know if they'll fit or not.

>> No.10060291

>>10060280
How new are you to not know that
- brand sizes are not accurate always
- different cuts fit different ways
- shirring stretch greatly affects fit.
-one size items can either fit a range or a very narrow number
- people get shirty if they are fat or tall and they think you mis-represented the measurements by 1cm.

>> No.10060295

>>10060280
Nothing's wrong with it, OP was referring to the girl who made the post in >>10059336 who frequently shits up lolita groups with whining and useless commentary

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>>10060291

>> No.10060306

>>10059336

Huh. At least I'm not alone with people asking for dress measurements and then disappearing on me.

Although with mine one of them asked about a shirred Meta piece in a way that implied "okay how wide does it really go?". Which makes me think these are just lazy fatties trying to find pieces that fit them by making sellers do all the work.

Wish they'd find a way that's less troublesome than asking sellers, though. I'm at the point where I'm inclined to just ignore messages asking for how wide things go, that side of the spectrum inevitably never follows through on a purchase.

>> No.10060309

>>10060306
>making sellers do all the work
I mean... they can't really tell how wide the dress goes unless they actually own it. Nobody can. Shirring varies from dress to dress, so it's not unreasonable to ask, fat or thin. Whether you want to sell to someone who'll stretch the dress out and ruin it is another question though

>> No.10060350

>>10060309

Anon, that's the point. That's the whole point of the weirdness. They're not buying. They're not even responding. Not even a thank-you. They just hit you up with a request to measure the shirring then dissappear on you.

Like, it's great that you're fat and you want to know if the dress will fit.

But my labour is not free. If you're gonna make me measure a dress for you that you're not even gonna buy then please throw me $5 for the labour cost, or at least say a fucking "thank you, it won't fit".

They don't even bother to do that.

Just a "hey how fat does it go" then they disappear.

>> No.10060352

>>10059336
I mean, yeah she should just post the size from lolibrary as a courtesy, I guess. Doesn't excuse the fact that the same person is constantly asking her about the size which is pretty retarded. Not sure why she'd wait for a reply on LM when she could find the information on lolibrary, unless she is always explicitly asking for the seller to measure it themselves.

>> No.10060358

>>10060350
Your buyers need to know the size before they can even consider putting the item on a wishlist to later compare with their budget vs other desirable items /etc.

Expecting them to pay you for providing the most bare basic information about the item required to make a sale is delusional. It's your job as the seller to list the sizes as they are.

If you want compensation for that, add your "labor" costs to the listing price.

>> No.10060381

>>10060350
If I'm not buying it why would I continue to talk to you??

>> No.10060384

>>10059660
....you mean hypocrisy.

>> No.10060387

>>10060358
Anon they seem more upset about the amount of rudeness and ungratefulness, not the task itself.

>>10060381
Respect and tact, fatty-chan. The seller assumes you're still interested and wait for your message until they notice you're just not replying.

>> No.10060391

>>10059336
Lel, they are talking about nanako on LM. They comment on a shit ton of listings asking the same question about measurements over and over again but they never buying anything.

>> No.10060392

>>10059336
on the contrary, anyone have people ask stupid questions when you have the relevant information already posted to your listing? Without a fail i'll get someone asking me for the brand or the size when it's very clearly stated on my listing

>mfw this girl asks me what brand my antaina shoes are when in the listing name it says antaina

>> No.10060400

>>10060387
>respect
>online
We're talking about lacemarket right? Peer to peer shopping just works this way because you're online. Its not like being at a swap meet. People disappear online because its easy to. More and more people are getting to the point where they don't need all this extra human interaction.
This isn't even about me. Its about being a seller and giving info about what you're selling. You're not entitled to have your item purchased. You have to work for it. Retail is hell for a reason. Customers are always going to be rude.
Do what it takes to sell your shit or get over it.

>> No.10060433

>>10060400
>People disappear online because its easy to.
>Customers are always going to be rude.
Yes, but that still doesn't make it any less of a cunt move. Just because you can't see them, doesn't mean there aren't actual people behind the screen. And selling privately is not the same as retail work.
>You're not entitled to have your item purchase
And that isn't what I was saying. I'm complaining about the assholes who request something that takes time of the day of someone else and then can't even take 2 seconds to type a thank you or a reply like "not interested anymore"/"i'm considering it" etc. They don't even have to be polite.

>> No.10060450

>>10060400

I've actually had more buyers that are nice and polite than rude and unpleasant.

Shitty people are always rude, but that has nothing to do with being a customer. Shitty people are just shitty and rude everywhere they go.

>> No.10060497

>>10060350
>>10060387
>>10060433

You sound like you take each instance of this happening personally. Yikes.

>> No.10060501

>>10060387
As a seller I don’t really take it personally if someone doesn’t reply, and I recommend you do the same. They asked a question about the size and once they see it possibly won’t fit them (or changed their mind/bought another dress while waiting for my reply) the conversation is over, there is no reason to take the conversation further, the buyer doesn’t have any sort of obligation to send me “one thx uwu” if they’re not interested anymore. It’s not like they asked me to hold the dress for them, so getting your hopes up as a seller when someone is asking a basic question is just ridiculous and childish imo.

>> No.10060503

>>10060501
>”okey thx uwu”

Fucking autocorrect

>> No.10060506
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Any one else getting annoyed by the girl spamming looking for this meta set? She’s posted it to every damned group I’m in and constantly ups the thread. If she even looked on LM she would have seen it show up several times over the last month.

>> No.10060508

>>10060497
>>10060501
First quote is a different person. I don't take it personally, I'm just annoyed by people who waste my time with stuff like this with not the slightest regards of others. Same for people who ask 20 questions and ask for some extra pictures and then do the same.

>> No.10060536

>>10060124
>black girls want separate groups
>black girls throw fits over separate groups they aren’t included in
>mayo ass bitches!!!

what a winner.

>> No.10060540

>>10060536
It literally started when some white bread found out there are black groups. Then they race bait, then black gulls lose their shit. You’re both terrible and should jump off a bridge.

>> No.10060547

Man why can’t we have a thread that isn’t shit slinging about racial views for once? This is the cgl board. Not r9k.

>> No.10060548

>>10060141
I don’t care about max measurements, I want to know sleeve length and shoulder width. With IW someone just has to say if the piece is S, M or L so I can look it up myself.

>> No.10060549

>>10060547
I'm rather new to cosplay and /cgl/ as a whole and honestly I thought this was a better board than others but i guess not

>> No.10060552

>>10060549
It will shift to something else within 4 months. Some new cow drama will hit and every thread will be derailed by someone saying something, doing something, posting something that gets blown so out of proportion here. I just hope is something relevant like one brand replicating another brand’s print. Or some ita playing the “ lolitas are lovelies and you’re all meannies” on ruffle chat again. I like those when they try to defend their sad eBay replica wearing ass on the board. That’s what I like to read. Not what everyone’s view on what is and isn’t racism. If I wanted that shit I would watch the news.

>> No.10060557

>>10060552
Well that was a prettt good opinion to be quite honest. I never really expected a board filled with girls to be so hateful but I guess that’s the naive part of me. For me this is just arts and crafts that I can wear and be happy in cause what else is a guy supposed to do when he’s bored

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>>10060557
>I never really expected a board filled with girls to be so hateful

>> No.10060561

>>10060560
I mean it is a very depressing season right now so I would understand why, I really wish I had a friend up at these hours to talk to. Or atleast talk about cute stuff with

>> No.10060588

>>10060536
>black girls are excluded from groups
>black girls make their own groups
>all hell breaks lose

>> No.10060591

>>10060588
I’m all for black girls making their own little area in the community. Hell even Hispanic lolitas could have one if they wanted to. It’s those select few like WF that make such groups look like it’s nothing but a hate group and a ass pat “ you look cute sweetie, fuck the white man for not liking your Milanoo dress. Dats a racist” that make people uncomfortable. It’s essentially generalizing the entire group for the actions of the most verbal few in such groups. But who doesn’t do that in today’s timeline? Personally I’m wheelchir bound and would love to make a group for wheelchair bound lolitas since there’s a few of us around. But I also don’t really care much for being around people that have the same common thing as I do. I just kinda deal with what I have and call it Gucci.

>> No.10060593

>>10060497

Does it make a difference? >>10060400 directly says she's going to be a rude annoying customer anyway, if it isn't the measurements thing she's probably going to find some other way to annoy the seller anyway.

>> No.10060626

LWLN on that unending virtue signaling rant holy shit, most of us agree but the excess when youre preaching to the choir is so obnoxious, it should have been an open and shut case of "look at this idiot doing obviously socially u acceptable things and now lets move on" but I gueaa nothing interesting is ever going on these days

>> No.10060631

>>10060626
unpopular opinion: SS is nice and puts work into her content but it's usually immature shit stirring that doesn't contribute to the community much. i don't get the ~~i'm a wowita salt qween~~ thing that some lolitas shove down everyone's throats, but i guess that's her target audience.

>> No.10060643

>>10060631
This

I absolutely think John Leigh is a POS for example but have seldom heard more immature insults thrown around than in the 3 (was there 4?) videos put out about him and dragged out for ages when literally everyone agreed he was a creep. The constant hammering of that point only detracted from the informative portion of the video and actually made me sympathize with him a bit - which I didnt know was possible.

>> No.10060667

>>10060508
Put something up that says "serious inquiries only" then you bafoon. You're just a dumb seller.

>> No.10060668

>>10060291
Yes but for those of us who arent retarded, we know how how to look up on lolibrary or the IW site what the measurements of IW S, M, or L are for a piece. I'd much rather have someone say Grazia Crown size M than they try to measure it

>> No.10060669

>>10060433
>doesn't mean there aren't actual people behind the screen.
Sometimes there isn't

>> No.10060670

>>10060668
Not every dress is listed on lolibrary

>> No.10060672

>>10060670
I have posted dresses with lolibrary link saying that the lolibrary measurements seem accurate and people still asked me the measurements. People are stupid and lazy, if you are really interested in a dress you'll look it up

>> No.10060673

>>10060672
The fuck does this have to do with what I'm saying?

>> No.10060677

>>10060672
Ive had 3 dresses, even from skinny girls, that have been stretched or altered and end up bigger than listed lolibrary measurements.. clothing that is old and used may have changed hands several times and isn't always in the same shape as when it was released. The measurements were put up on lolibrary half a decade ago or longer, and some people think just becauase they can get it on their body that it fits... It helps to have as much information as possible if you want to buy and sell anything. I'm sure besides stretching things out there are people who have shrunk items or just worn out elasticity through wear and improper washing

>> No.10060707

>>10060677
Thank you

>> No.10060718

>>10060548
That’s why I only post the brand-stated size on things I sell and I won’t do things like ‘max measurement’ numbers. If people want to know more measurements, like you, they can investigate that brand’s sizing.

>> No.10060763

I wish the girls in my comm(s) would sit down and apologize to eachother. I’m so tired of us being all being so divided. I don’t think many people can be friends again after the kind of drama that happened but I wish we could all just be decent to eachother again like the old days of our comm.

>> No.10060766

>>10060763
I wish everyone would be nice to each other

>> No.10060767

>>10060626

This. Anytime she talks about anything having to do with black lolitas, it's always a 20-30 minute video, way too long and cringey, virtue signaling about how *woke* she is for a white girl.

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Can the girl posting about getting this dress please stfu? No one cares if you get your dream dress or not, wait like the rest of us or buy another dress.

>> No.10060811

>>10060667
You're the foolish one if you think people who can't even be bothered to write thanks/okay/yes/no/maybe read or care about instructions like these. I started adding the phrase after the 3rd time the previously described stuff happened but they just don't give a fuck and do it anyway. It's the major reason why I gave up on selling on FB other than being full of flakes.

I honestly don't even know what we're discussing here. Most of the anons agree that it's rude but calling it rude, complaining or ranting about it is somehow not okay? Idgi, there's no reason to be defensive about it.

>>10060669
>literal ghosting
Now this is a good conspiracy.

>> No.10060817

>>10060763
>like in the old days.
I'm pretty sure you're naive and petty drama still happened when you were new- you just didn't know about it yet.
Immature women will never realise they were in the wrong, and it's no-one's duty to ask them to step up, so, sorry, your comm is never getting back together.

>> No.10060819

>>10060817
Christ anon who pissed in your cornflakes?

>> No.10060827

>>10060767
I think if she’s going to address the topics, have a black lolita guest on to actually represent or she should dial it way back. I think addressing it to call attention to it is fine but the way she turns it into a whole show shows that she’s also using the topic as a platform of her own. To be fair, I don’t think that’s her intention but that’s the way it’s coming off to me.

>> No.10060832

>>10060626
I watched maybe the first 5 mins of the video then closed it because all it was was talking in circles about the same topic. I’m all for defending your beliefs. But the amount of gaslighting she did was kinda sad to gain the favor of the SJW side of the community. But what ever gets you views I guess. She wouldn’t have gone off so long about that or the John Leigh thing if it didn’t generate views any way.

>> No.10060837

>>10060832
Iirc the John Leigh deal went on for long because they kept trying to get her videos down, so it was a bit of a "you're dead wrong if you think taking my videos down is going to silence me", and it was relevant at the time because of the shitstorm that was going on then

>> No.10060849

>>10060837
Why beat a dead horse anon? She just said the same thing like the entire community knew. There was absolutely no need for all the video. Especially when she uploaded the video to Facebook. But let’s make another to make the same point over and over to “stick it to the man”

>> No.10060855

>>10060785
It's being scalped on lacemarket if she's so desperate

>> No.10060862

>>10060626
Yeah that sjw shit is real embarassing
Unfollowed

>> No.10060865

>>10060849
>why doesn't she make the types of videos I want, why can't they cater to ME

>> No.10060875

>>10060643
I agree with this, imo the ott drawn out string of insults just make her look like an asshole and takes away from the point she’s trying to make. I’ve found myself wanting to stand up for some of her targets even when I knew them to be shitty people, simply because she’s making irrelevant low blows that have nothing to do with whatever the person actually did wrong. I’ve heard she’s trying to emulate the Daily Show but afaik they don’t go on for nearly as long as she does.

>> No.10060880

>>10060855
She made a ranting post about that, she wants it but she isn’t willing to spend more then like $250 on it

>> No.10060881

>>10060855
Nayrt but it's on y!jp also

>> No.10060907

>>10060875
>irrelevant low blows

Like the time she insulted that Belgian lolita's English, knowing that wasn't her first language. The girl may have been throwing a tantrum, but that was low even for SS.

>> No.10060915

>>10060817
It happened but it was really rare and kept very private in those days. It never went beyond the 2 or maybe 3 it involved. I’ve always been a mod in my comm since day one so no I wasn’t some naïve newbie at the time. We all looked and dressed like shit, wasn’t much to really stir at those times.
And I know this. I’m just giving in to wishful thinking in spirit of the holidays bringing people together. You don’t have to be such a negative piece of shit, anon.

>> No.10060921

>>10060875
Personally I like her content even if drawn out. It’s nice having a summerised version of what’s going on without having to search for posts yourself which are often just deleted by the end of whatever the situation was. A little less insulting would be nice though, I’d prefer her content just be mildly unbiased rundowns of what occurred.

>> No.10060922

>>10060907
That annoyed me a lot, too. For many Belgians, English is their third language. How many languages does SS speak fluently? One?

It was especially dumb because the girl in question is pretty disliked in her own comm but because SS felt the need to drag an entire country she needlessly pissed off a bunch of people who would otherwise have agreed with her.

>> No.10060925

>>10060631
I don’t think it’s an unpopular opinion, I think she’s intelligent, witty and has a great idea with the show but I find her approach too heavy and I think would all go over better with a slightly lighter tone. I know some issues like John Leigh are dead serious so some gravity there is good but I come away from most episodes more dazed than informed or entertained. It’s too much.

Her Q&A and closet tour were surprising, she’s still quite acerbic and very funny but with a lighter dose of sarcasm and without the heavy-hitting run-on sentence filled tone, those videos were much more pleasant to watch than her show.

>> No.10060941

>>10058480
Any feels on amino?

>> No.10060955

>>10060811
You sound new to internet and peer to peer marketplaces. Even sellers don't bother responding sometimes. This isnt just a buyer issue.

>> No.10060964

>>10060955
Nayrt but I think there is a new etiquette that has formed because each 'thank you' or 'oh ok' type message signals as a reply that we have to go check on to look at so many people drop the pleasantries-only replies and it's not seen as rude. Same with replies on fb sales threads that are just 'how pretty' or 'I like this'.

>> No.10060965

>>10060643
It helped keeping the community involved though. Watch her latest video EGL MVPs. She explains a bit more about the threat of being sued.

>> No.10061039

>Sells pouch for $120
>Still up for reserve on the USA Baby site for $86
https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/nekokumya-pochette-in-white

>> No.10061075

>>10060819
>>10060915
>I wish two groups of people who have found major flaws in the other's behaviour would just get over it for my sake.
I want you to think realistically. You might as well move on.

>> No.10061094

>>10060955
>hurr durr you sound new
Yes, sellers do it too, where did I say otherwise? It's still an issue. And again, what are you arguing about?

>> No.10061142

>>10060677
Yeah that's actually a good point. I always disclose stretching out for this reason, usually when it occurs it is noticeable. Sometimes I think it has occurred but there is no difference between the listed minimum size...

>> No.10061145

>>10060881
I hope somebody else buys it

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>>10061039
Lol if you think that's bad check this out

>> No.10061166

>>10060965
I just watched the video, and honestly.. If she made her videos more objectively instead of calling the guy a balding pedo freak every other sentence, she wouldn't have to have worried about being sued for cyber bullying/defamation. If she reported what happened without being so excessively insulting and clearly disgusted and bitter to the point of considering the man subhuman, any court would be on her side and she would never have had to stress about the thing

>> No.10061183

>>10060785
There is literally two of these dresses under 200$ on YA she just needs to look her damn self and she’ll find it.

>> No.10061191

>>10061183
I'm sure she 'checked lace market but no dweem dwess, uwu'. Serves her right if no one links them but just blocks her. Or better, say "I found two, look moar, no spoonfeeding". Let her learn to search.

>> No.10061193

>>10061039
She's probs trying to raise money for the new Meta set so her ita ass can look like shit again.

>> No.10061201

>>10061039
She has good feedback but most of her things for sale look more used than 'worn once, used once'.

>> No.10061262

>>10061094
That you are expecting too much out of people. Yes people shouldn't be rude but that's not most cases.

>> No.10061325

>>10060925
>I think would all go over better with a slightly lighter tone.
It would be better if she dropped the news gimmick entirely and just did it as a fucking soapbox since that's really all it is. Her fucking soapbox doused in parody news gimmick with lolita attached.
She's not doing anything new or amazing. She just applied a watered down show run to her niche hobby.

>> No.10061341

>>10061325
>She's not doing anything new or amazing. She just applied a watered down show run to her niche hobby.
But in this niche hobby nobody else is doing anything similar to her. So it's working, and she gets to be a guest at lolita events, has lots of fans, etc. It's not a matter of doing something new and innovative to everything, it's a matter of doing something nobody else in this one hobby is doing

>> No.10061346

>>10061341
I bet you love watching remakes and sequels too.

>> No.10061406

>>10061346
Nayrt, but stuff your whiny attitude about free internet content up your sandy ass and let people enjoy things.

>> No.10061407

Post count gone down? Time to check the archives!!

>> No.10061412

>>10061325
I like the show overall, I just think it maybe has strayed a little too far into the soapbox territory. The first several episodes did not feel as, well...scolding I guess? We all know it's a persona but I think it's a bit hard and overdone for a fashion hobby reporting gig. And I think the topics could be more refined to focus more directly on the fashion. The recent rotting doll thing was only one troll and her mole-faced boyfriend, only tangentially related to the lolita community.
Not a whole show worthy topic, I-M-O

>> No.10061423

>>10059425
just make a white lolita group? not hard

>> No.10061438

>>10061423
If there was a white lolita group that prevented bug-eyed white girls from doing meant-for-Asian-eyes enlarging makeup, I’d be all in. That shit is scary when abused.
Love,
A bug-eyed white girl who knows better

The lesson we all need: everyone can have their own groups for their own reasons, it’s a fashion, not some kind of regulated thing. No one needs permission or approval from anyone to do so. I hope the natural hair thread here went well but I didn’t poke my nose in even though I’m curious because it’s not meant for me and my pin-straight locks so I don’t feel the need to go push myself into the space.

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Ahem*

>> No.10061449

>>10061439
I hope one day you get arrested for watching all that kiddie porn neckbeard

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>>10061449
I hope you get over your hateful bigotry.

>> No.10061595

>>10061406
I never said you couldn't enjoy it. Sorry to hear about your brain injury.

>> No.10061623

>>10061406
Nayrt but when said free content is a pretty visible representation of the fashion both to ourselves and to others, people in the fashion are going to have something to say about it. I’m assuming Tyler loves lolita as much as any lolita so I’m guessing she’s open to polite suggestions, keyword being polite. So I actually encourage people to give their opinion. I’d like to see the show stay relevant and I think it has gotten a little off track.

>> No.10061637

>>10061623
She has a pretty big wardrobe. I would guess since her YouTube fame, she's turned into someone that has to be nice and handle everything said to her or about her so that she can stay famous for what she's doing.
Other youtubers get recommendations all the time but that doesn't mean they do them. That's something you do when you're small time. Once you reach her status that goes out the window until you do some kind of video solely for requests.

Also, free content - you get what you pay for. And to think people pay for fucking youtube....

>> No.10061650

>>10061637
I think she cares about what people think and really wants people to continue to like and watch her show. She may be big news within the fashion but she’s very niche as a youtuber in the general scheme, with a very limited potential audience. She seems to care about both the fashion and her impact on the community quite a bit so I am betting she will listen to polite, well meaning critique from people who like and watch her show and really only want to see it get better and better.

>> No.10061654

>>10061650
Yeah but she doesn't really take critiques because her show is the same ol same ol. Most youtubers are niche outside of people who were already famous who use the platform like joe rogan or macully culkin.

Also she has to be nice like famous people have to be nice to their fans. She's fake just like the rest of em.

>> No.10061668

>>10061654
Nayrt but I think you're probably correct.. Some of her videos have been great, I loved the ones on the history of lolita and feminism, but most of the ones where she is going on long rants about specific people seem like she is kind of pandering to the social media outrage engine. There was a bizarre one earlier this year, where she was making fun of someone for some messages they'd sent like 3 years previously, it was really awkward.

>> No.10061672

T I know you read here, what do you say? Are you hearing the critiques given and re-thinking some of your upcoming content to be more lolita-general and maybe considering using a lighter hand when dealing with people like poop-Chan when they aren’t really central to the community, saving the big guns for people like John Leigh? Would you consider doing a bit more fluffy humor which is still so damn funny because you are 1/2 salty cynic and 1/2 fluffy bunny at heart? What do you think of what’s been said so far?

>> No.10061673

>>10061150
I seriously hope no one fucking buys this shit

>> No.10061678

>>10061325
Agreed, I am done. It just falls flat I hope she stops making videos licking out "minorities" holes that identifarian crap gets real old fast

>> No.10061680 [DELETED] 

>>10061673
Girls are retarded so someone will buy it, hence why it's so funny when they get viciously raped and beheaded by Arabs.

>> No.10061691

>>10061166
I hate the overly polite society we live in. John's a sex offender. Drag his ass

>> No.10061693

>>10061691
This is the one case where everything SS threw at him was not even enough and she was doing God’s work. Dragging poop-chan and the whole country of Belgium the same way? Not so much on point.

>> No.10061694

>>10061346
I don't? And I didn't even say if I liked her channel, I just said what she did is working for her because nobody else has stood up and done anything even more innovative yet. It's all relative, and she's the first person doing something like this which in lolita is why it's working. Look at all the top beauty guru youtubers- there are better ones out there but they were the first and that's why they're famous. Thanks for ignoring what I said and bringing up something completely unrelated because you have nothing worthwhile to say though

>> No.10061696

>>10061693
Wait, what did belgium do? Does tyler still live with her parents? Cuz thats embarassing

>> No.10061701

>>10061696
Nothing.
One Belgian lolita acted up and SS dragged the whole country.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=VY0FyZCIy70
Belgian stuff Begins at 2:35

>> No.10061704

>>10061678
I’m glad she brings up the problems because they are problems, but If you are white, the line is fine between advocacy, make yourself into some kind of weird token representative or actually using the issue you are reporting on to further your own platform.

>> No.10061705 [DELETED] 

>>10061701
Is that a tranny? Why else would it be so unattractive?

>> No.10061707 [DELETED] 

>>10061704
Maybe Negros should just shut up about their "muh wypipo conspiracy to keep us down" nonsense.

>> No.10061717

>>10061705
I wouldn’t call her pretty but she’s not ugly. In any case, it’s the content we are discussing so thanks for your official vote of shallowness and lookism.

>> No.10061747

>>10061704
>using the issue you are reporting on to further your own platform
If anything I see it as her using her platform, which has a decently sized audience, to bring attention to these issues and topics. Judging by the comments she's getting here and on some of her videos, it's clearly not getting her any more fans but she does it anyway because it's important to her. I see 0 issue with this, personally.

>> No.10061749

>>10061704
SS does one video on someone who was egregiously racist

>SS needs to stop talking about race issues all the time

....okay then

>> No.10061754

>>10061749
Ridiculous exaggeration became cgl's core essence for some time now, why are you even surprised anymore. It's a codeword for "I don't like this and I want them to stop but don't have a proper argument"

>> No.10061796

>>10061754
>"I don't like this and I want them to stop but don't have a proper argument"
Yup. This is what happens every time SS is brought up.

>> No.10061806

>>10061691
He's a creep but literally not a sex offender.. telling everyone he is, is exactly why she had to worry about being sued and he would have been justified in doing so

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Must not have been high up on the dream dress list to not realize it isn't a rerelease....its a completely different print.

Good job.

>> No.10061841

>>10061806
No one pressed charges? After all the call-outs and ongoing boycotts etc., no one has actually stepped up and done anything but yap?
If this is true, I’m very disappointed.

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>>10061813
tfw one of my dream dresses is unironically a haenuli dress and no one ever resells

>> No.10061889

>>10061841
Beating the dead horse is boring.

>> No.10061892

>>10061694
>I don't? And I didn't even say if I liked her channel
Why the fuck did you respond and why fight it this hard?? Shes only notable in her niche hobby and even then, some people who care more about the hobby either don't know if her, don't care for her, or just plain despise her. But oh riiiiiight. She's so fucking successful because she took a watered down gimmick and slapped lolita on the title. Oh and because she stirs shit in the online community and straight up has the same behavior as some of the trolls on cgl at times. And don't forget the pandering!

If anything she's struggling to keep that efame alive.

Look at any past famous edge lords. They're unheard of and washed up now. She will be too.

>> No.10061899

>>10061892
I bet you love getting mad at anyone who has a bit more efame than you too.

>> No.10061905

>>10061892
You sound extreemly jealous

>> No.10061921

>>10061892
>>10061905
Literally what I was about to type and I usually hate the "ur just jelly" reply but this time it's accurate. Why are you so upset about her efame?

>> No.10061978

>>10061841
I dont even think there's anything anyone could press charges for. He made some inappropriate comments, sexual innuendo and flirting, but everyone involved laughed along with him or awkwardly dismissed it but never told him to stop - so there is no grounds for harassment. The president is more a sexual predator that this guy, his shady business practices are much more relevant to the law but news of that was glossed over in favor of the woke defense of the girls involved. Imo she should have used the opportunity to warn girls that if they're getting creeped on they have to stand up for themselves and tell the person that they are uncomfortable, because the law doesn't care about anything up until that point, and fuck, half the community at a con is autistic or socially inexperienced weebs who don't know boundaries so we should all make sure they know when they're crossing a line

>> No.10062039

>>10061978
It just seems a shame to bang the drum and get everyone riled over it and then have nothing really come of it, he never even got formally charged with any of his wrongdoing and he's still running what appears to be 2 continuing successes as a convention and a lolita shop.

>> No.10062061

Does anyone have a link to the /cgl/ + /fa/ discord?

>> No.10062212

>>10061978
There are some additional cases of things people could press charges on if you read the Boycott Anime Matsuri stories, but I can understand why nobody would want to start anything given the legal system and the Leigh's sue-happiness
>>10062039

There was finally some positive progress made in that many guests canceled their AM showings

>> No.10062229

>>10061899
Nah I like k8 and hello batty and claire and spiro and that chick who does ero on cof all the time and wistywish

>> No.10062236

>>10061921
>>10061905
I have no desire to be famous so what is there to be jealous of? All my social media is private. If I wanted to be well known I wouldn't be on here, I'd be in rc right now screaching about this or posting to cof, but I don't post in either. I don't post publically anywhere.

So what am I jealous of exactly.

>> No.10062238

>>10062212
I wish delta h con was doing a bit more but I looked at the page and it's not really interesting enough yet to take off work and travel to.

>> No.10062360

Did the anon that ordered the Haenuli ripoff from Wish ever get her order?

>> No.10062369

>>10061846
I'm looking for this one too. Why does it never sell? Did she only make very few?

>> No.10062401

>>10062229
Wow, you literally have the shittiest taste in people.

>> No.10062433

>>10062229
>hello batty
>who makes quips about lolita being ageplay and has the personality of drying paint

Love yourself, anon.

>> No.10062445

>>10062238
Yeah I feel that. I went Oni-con a couple years ago and had a blast! I'm sad I couldn't go this year, they had one of my favorite brands ;_; (Sexpotrevenge)

I highly recommend Oni-Con

>> No.10062462

>>10062433
>hello batty
>who makes quips about lolita being ageplay
Wtf source?

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>>10061846
Wow I never noticed this one and it's absolutely pretty, I would love to own the skirt. Who did the art? It looks inspired to Kay Nielsen, especially the background.

>> No.10062654

>>10062401
I don't claim to know them personally or anything. I like their outfits and content. I don't watch their channels. As far as I know, none of them have shows like Tyler does. Being on YouTube and having a show on YouTube are two different things.

Also, I don't like most anons on cgl and I think that alone is a shining example of me liking decent people because decent people don't come here.

>inb4 k8 bs with screenshots "proving" she posted
I never saw any real proof in those threads. Just typical witch hunt anons pulling shit out of their asses like always.

>>10062433
>>10062462
Yea source pls?

>> No.10062685

>>10062654
>>10062433
Yeah uhh I usually hop on the "fuck HB" train whenever relevant because she's a highkey bitch and famewhore but this doesn't sound like something she'd ever say. Extremely tongue in cheek, if at all.

>> No.10062688

I'm so tired of this Cordelia chick in RC and LH.
She's everywhere and tries way too hard to be sassy/funny as if it was gonna compensate how mediocre her coords are and how painfully plain she looks.
At least up your game before you act like that.

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>>10062369
I'm sure everyone who buys it loves it and doesn't want to give it up.

>>10062513
I believe it's her own original art, based on Snow White. I like it because it reminds me of my favourite artist, Harry Clarke. Plus I'm really into apples. And skeletons.

>> No.10062713

>>10062696
I FUCKING LOVE HARRY CLARKE

>> No.10062986

>>10062685
I don't believe anything cgl has to say about efamous people since it's either biased or made up entirely.

>> No.10062988

>>10062688
Shes been around for a few years and used to be your typical noob posting stupid questions and was even more annoying. She's improved from that at least.

>> No.10063009

>>10062688
I think she thinks she's funnier than she is, but I hope she'll mature. She's only a teenager isn't she?

>> No.10063012

>>10063009
looks like she's 19

>> No.10063014

>>10063012
What comm is she in? I assume she's a lonelita if she thinks her shit is funny.

>> No.10063015

>>10062688
Yeah she’s pretty annoying but at least she doesn’t take over the local comm. One of her friends took over and she’s made the whole thing into a clique.

>> No.10063016

>>10063015
I wonder if we're talking about the same comm because afaik her comm isn't very cliquey

>> No.10063017

>>10063016
Really? There’s so many cliques. I tried to make friends but you’re either an older gal and get into K’s group or you’re the others and take over the comm.

>> No.10063018

>>10063017
try harder then

>> No.10063019

>>10063015
I'm in her comm and I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. Yes the younger lolitas do tend to talk together a lot, they have more in common with each other. Same goes for the older lolitas. That's fine and to be expected, everyone still gets along at meets. No one is "taking over" anything, anyone is welcome at meets. This feels like outside people trying to stir us up into something we're not. It's really annoying.

>> No.10063020

>>10063017
The London comm is huge and has pretty frequent meets. If you can’t make friends then that’s your own problem.

>> No.10063021

Thoughts on lovelylors new video? I knew that my strange addiction was staged, but I had no idea the people in it didn’t know what they were filming for.

>> No.10063022

>>10063019
obviously not if people are complaining so much about K. The last tea party was an absolute disaster. I’m sure people are very nice but a few mess it up.

>> No.10063023

>>10063021
I don't usually like reacts series, but I think this one is quite informative because of her knowledge of film & documentaries. I've learned to take a new perspective when looking at docus, good and bad. I genuinely like her reacts, and I'm not much of a Lor person.

Her shit lolitas say totally made me laugh as a babby lolita and still does to this day.

>> No.10063024

>>10063022
You're not going to find anyone in the comm complaining about K. She's nice, literally nobody brought her into the thread until >>10063017. If you're salty about Traumerei you don't have to drag us into it. We're sick of this shit.

>> No.10063025

>>10063022
I was there and it was fine, what are you on about. Are you one of the people nobody knew who kissed ass the whole time and made people uncomfortable

>> No.10063026

>>10063024
Sure thing hun. Nobody talks about her.

>> No.10063027

>>10063025
Wait who kissed ass? I didn’t hear of this.

>> No.10063028

>>10063026
If you were actually in our group chats you'd know that most of the time when we talk about her we're complaining about how people just won't stop dragging her into drama. It's exhausting for everyone and most of us like her so..... Piss off

>> No.10063032

>>10063022
were you even there tho to have this opinion?

>> No.10063087

There's this stupid white supremacist russian pedo bitch in my comm and i want her to fuck off.

>> No.10063098

>>10063087
oh was it me? i am fu**ing off now.

>> No.10063100

>>10063022
K is one of the nicest people in comm, but unfortunately we have some bugs who are complaining about everything here. Maybe the problem is not local comm but yourself?

>> No.10063108

>>10061813
Omg I'm glad I'm not the only one who did a double take on that dress "re-release".

>> No.10063120

Me, a nobody, (honestly also an ita) visited London from out of the country a few years ago and K and co happily told me about meets happening when I was visiting and were very kind to me at the meet I attended. I didn't even have a petticoat on.
They definitely seem disorganized at times but I don't get all this K hate at all

>> No.10063147

>>10063120
Bitches are still salty over Traumerei. I can understand the salt, I didn't get a ticket and still wish I could go party with the cool lolitas. The level of vendetta and reaching is just laughable though.

>> No.10063185

>>10061846
I've seen it for sale many times now, all sizes.
I think you're complaints are premature.

>> No.10063187

>>10062229
>spiro
lol, the 'everyone fatter than me is disgusting' anachan

>> No.10063221

>>10063185
I only saw it for sale once this year. I search every now and again.

>> No.10063235

>>10063098
>f**ing
This isn't reddit. Fuck off.

>> No.10063256

>>10063187
Bullshit. She never said that.

>> No.10063257

K is lovely. Stop being a flock of jealous bitches.

>> No.10063259

>>10061892
I’m not sure how you can accuse her of being a shit stirring troll based on her YouTube persona. I’ve met her several times and she’s the complete opposite outside of her channel. She’s definitely not interested in efame otherwise you’d see her posting nonstop on social media, racking up licks on insta and whoring her coords on cof.

What’s your deal, anon? Jealous after seeing her wardrobe or something?

>> No.10063304

>>10063021
I had no idea they groomed their interviewees like this, hot damn. These people are so deperate to turn lolita into a circus side-show that it's kind of sad. Everyday we stray further from mana's light.

>> No.10063309

>>10063259
Seconding this, I had a perfectly normal conversation with the woman and she actually seemed surprised and a little overwhelmed by all the attention she got after the Mushroom King rant and the C&D. She's not like her YouTube persona at all.

>> No.10063310

Holy crap. Is the requirement of lolita that you have manface?

Why do y'all look like men in dresses?

>> No.10063311

>>10063310
To be fair, a significant number are men, unfortunately.

>> No.10063429

>>10063259
>She’s definitely not interested in efame otherwise
What??? She has a fucking youtube channel where she has a show.

>lol u must be jelly
For like the millionth time; what is there to be jealous of? I don't wear the same style she does, and I buy dresses that I want on my own. Why the fuck would I want hers? I hate most of the shit she owns anyway.

>>10063309
so you know her personally or you're just basing this off you met her one time? You sound like morons who defend beyonce because they met her once and she was "soo nice to her fans"

>> No.10063439

>>10063429
So do you know her personally too then?

>> No.10063503

>>10061846
Just posted https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/haenuli-snow-white-l-size-jacquard-jsk

>> No.10063506

>>10063503
>size L
Brb crying forever

>> No.10063535

>>10063310
Heh, you're just jealous of our superior masculinity

>> No.10063542

>>10063506
I stupidly bought a size L one time because my body is built like a linebacker’s; god damn was that brand made for ham chans. The large supposedly fit a 35 inch bust at it’s smallest but with my 36 inch bust it fell off the shoulders and there was even a gap in the bodice after tightening it. That dress could have fit me when I used to have a 42 inch bust.

>> No.10063556

>>10063439
Nope but the image she projects is garbage just like any other famous person.

>> No.10063557

>>10063259
Nayrt but I think she’s much less vain or interested in fame than someone like Lor.

>> No.10063567

>>10063556
the way you whine about her sounds like any other jelly person too anon

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>>10063503
NOW it pops up at the least convenient time of year when I don't have what's gonna amount like 4 hundo in canadian pesos.

>> No.10063596

>>10063557
then why does she have a youtube channel?

>>10063567
Again. You morons keep repeating the word "jealousy" but have yet to say what I am actually jealous of.
Because I'm not jealous of anything.
If I was talking shit about Will Smith, would just say "oh you must be jealous".No, of course not.
People dislilke famous people. It's pretty common and has nothing to do with jealousy.

>> No.10063624

>>10063596
Anon, we said you SOUND jealous and the way you're so triggered about being called jelly and keep coming back to it doesn't make it better. You should ask that "what is there to be jealous of" question to yourself. Because your original post sounds so fucking bitter about the fact that SS gets efame and is liked and encouraged by a good chunk of people. Like a jelly teen screaming "She's not THAT original! Her following isn't THAT big, just a small niche hobby no one cares about! A-and her closet is shit too! Everyone either hates her or doesn't care about her!! I-I bet her efame won't last long anyway!!!". Honestly, ask yourself what about her bothers you so much to continue sperging out about her.

>> No.10063626

>>10063596
>then why does she have a youtube channel
I guess the idea of doing something because you enjoy it is foreign to you?

>> No.10063630

>>10063596
That would be a good question to ask her, ‘what made you start your YouTube channel and why do you focus it on lolita fashion? ‘
But didn’t she also make some goth videos before she did lolita ones? She’s goth outside of lolita.

If I had to guess it’s because of what she said already, people kept saying there should be a lolita news channel and she wanted to give it a go, enjoys it and since it’s sponsored now and she’s guesting at events, it has turned into something successful for her. But as other anons have said, she’s not blowing up sm feeds everywhere with her show or plastering herself all over the place.
I still enjoy her LWLN show but I stopped watching Lor, who seems to find a way to make everything somehow be about herself. A friend linked me to a LorxTyler video recently and after not watching Lor at all this year, all I could think was how she’s gotten worse about the me-me-me stuff, and her voice is more dramatic and whiny too.
And dem brows!

>> No.10063656

>>10063595
It’s the ironic magic of lolita, don’t post publicly about a dress unless you actually have the cash to splash because more often than not, someone will list it.
That’s how I’ve gotten 4 hard-to-find dresses after missing one by learning the hard way.

>> No.10063836

>>10063626
Except its publicly broadcasting. You don't go public like that unless you desire fame.

>> No.10063840

>>10063630
Well she doesn't need to post on any other social media cause she has a YouTube channel and does guesting at cons. She's famous. Which is what I've been saying this entire time but all these defense squad anons came out of the woodwork to say I'm jealous and she's totes not doing it for the fame and attention.

>> No.10063880

>>10063840
>She's famous. Which is what I've been saying this entire time
>Shes only notable in her niche hobby and even then, some people who care more about the hobby either don't know if her, don't care for her, or just plain despise her. But oh riiiiiight. She's so fucking successful because she took a watered down gimmick and slapped lolita on the title.
>Look at any past famous edge lords. They're unheard of and washed up now. She will be too.
You're right, I take it back. You not only sound jealous but also like an untreated personality disorder, yikes.
No one is acting like a "defense squad", your jealous ass just perceives it like that. Hell, I personally don't care about SS, your denial is just very entertaining. Do you seek fame and attention but don't act on it for a reason? Is that the issue here? Would you like to be in Scarfing Scarves place?

>> No.10063884

>>10063836
>you don't go public unless you desire fame
You're absolutely right! How dare all those film students and artists around the world broadcast their talents and choose to share their passions with the world? What fame-hungry hussies, they should just take their videos and put them in a box in their grandmother's basement like the rest of us respectable people do

>> No.10063887

>>10063840
Nayrt but I think it's somewhere in between. I don't see Tyler as a fame-whore but I think she definitely wants to have an impact on the community at large and take advantage of any opportunity it brings. I don't really think she does that in a particularly annoying or negative way or is chasing it hard like some other lolita personalities do.

The fact that LL has any actual journalism or documentary film-making experience is kind of embarrassing because I think she is chasing lolita and YouTube e-fame pretty obviously, and having met her and seen her 'persona' drop, I find her a bit too thirsty to actually like her. It also gripes me that she has a ko-fi and expects financial support but gives no additional perks. At least SS gives some extra content on her patreon for the financial sponsorship. But even the most basic costhot knows that you need to give extra content when you ask for money.

What I'd really like to see is another team like Deerstalker making a variety of content. Or a consistently well-dressed lolita who does educational videos about the fashion and how to style it with a variety of guests from lots of sub-styles as well as Q&A sessions and regularly posting coords/lookbook of she and her guests with a breakdown of the reasoning behind styling choices. But those are my own interests so that's just my own projections on what I'd enjoy watching about lolita on YouTube. I supported Deerstalker on patreon but most of us stopped financially supporting them when they split the channel and stopped doing the funny lolita-specific stuff.

All in all, I don't consistently watch any lolita YouTube right now. None hold my interest enough to be a regular.

>> No.10063888

>>10063887
>Or a consistently well-dressed lolita who does educational videos about the fashion and how to style it with a variety of guests

I would LOVE to see something like this, I tried to put together a lecture at an event where we would have a mannequin on the scene and dress it layer by layer while explaining what it does, why it's there, how it adds to the look, etc. of a few styles to show how you should think when putting together an outfit. Sadly it fell through and never happened.

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>>10063656
A friend helped me snag it, and I'll just pay her back when I do have it. She's a real saint and didn't want me to miss out either.

>> No.10063923

>>10063021
I don't like her anymore. People in her comm have said that she's quite annoying with all of her filming too. I can believe it. She has actually come out and said that she is 'not a lolita lifestyler it's just clothes' but of course she will do lifestyler things for views like 'lolita reacts to ___' .
I think a lot of her topics are strictly for views, not because she's concerned for contributing quality content and useful information to the community.

Her wigs are so badly cut and so shiny and her posture annoys me. So does the 'oh no, boohoohoo' fake cry thing she does. We've all seen enough candid moments to know that she's not a very good lolita even by her own admission and the lovely part is largely part of the act because she's not that nice if you pay attention to her candid moments and really string together a lot of what she says and separate the message from the sweetly-sweet delivery she uses.

Plus she purports to be the peacemaker with the 'can't we just all get along' spiel but then plays both sides off each other, scolds and often insults both sides then uses the drama content to plump up her channel. Examples, the 'Lolitas and Sex' or the Kelly Eden video. Nothing of value was added to the actual topics by either of those videos.

>> No.10063924

>>10063923
>she will do lifestyler things for views like 'lolita reacts to ___'
Since when are reaction videos a lifestyle thing? She can comment on and react to things relating to the fashion without being a lifestyler. And I say this as someone who's not a huge fan of Lor in general, especially not since that one video when she "tried" to wear the fashion for a long period of time, dressed inappropriately for the weather and got sick by the end of it, giving her normie viewers the false impression that the fashion is inherently uncomfortable. But that's besides the point, sorry, lol

>> No.10063929

>>10063923
How can people say she is annoying when she hasn’t filmed a video at a meet since she came to Canada? Seems to be bs when she does mostly stuff in her room.

>> No.10063936

>>10063924
It's not beside the point, that's another good example of the content being sub-par.
That was her '50k subscribers' video and what did she film? A giveaway? A celebration of the fashion that is mostly the reason she has 50k subscribers? Nope, instead a sponsored advert for a children's school backpack and a challenge that she didn't complete. Lolita too hot and uncomfy to wear even with no petit and trainers, only then to change into a long sleeved sweatshirt? Nah.

'X reacts to ___' is usually all about someone who is very much a part of the topic reacting to something supposedly related to the topic, that's the whole premise for the reaction videos.
Example: I like the 'goth reacts to___' videos of several people who are in the goth lifestyle. I wouldn't even watch them if they were some kind of rando 'i like the clothes' person reacting to goth.

One thing I have noticed is when she wants to push her a grand or sell something or serve sponsored content, yay, I'm expert lolita, watch and listen to me...but when she disagrees, 'lol, no, I'm not lifestyler Lolita....but be sure to request me as a lolita guest at events!' Quite fake. But yes, just my opinion and anyone can disagree or like her and support her, maybe she represents some people well.

But the things she points out to watch for in those documentaries, the framing of content, the emotional appeals, the exclusion of some things while highlighting others, the one-sided-ness etc? Watch HER videos with that same critical eye and then see if you can say that she's not using many of the exact same same tactics.

>> No.10063942

>>10063936
I still feel that it's fine that she does reaction videos even though she's not a lifestyler, but I understand the point you're making. I'm actually curious to see her reacting to more bad docus, to see what she has to say about them and how well she'll explain to her viewers what exactly makes them bad. I feel that someone who isn't a lifestyle lolita can do that well enough, at least in theory, so it should be interesting to see how she approaches that.

>> No.10063946

>>10063929
Her old comm had some drama about it so I guess she stopped? Many of us just know her from the gossip or hearsay, because many of us are just quiet non-fans who don't actually watch or follow her since her Shit Lolitas Say days so we only hear things occasionally? So, I went and skimmed.

Her Event videos are pretty subpar for her being a guest, I couldn't get a very good idea of how the events actually were because her reviews of things are really too personal, myopic and biased.

If she's actually a film-school graduate I'm cringing. That's all, I'm not going to watch anything more from her unless it's somehow pointed out as relevant to the community.

Just for the record, my cat is also offended by her yelling in the Lolita and Sex video. Not that it matters but relevance and her topics are also not close friends so it's noted.

>> No.10063952

>>10063942
If her own films were better quality I'd be interested to hear her pov since she said she went to film school...but I'm not sure that's something I'd admit if my videos were as amateurish as hers are. Unless that part is contrived as well. Don't know, don't really care.

I think to enjoy an 'x reacts to ___', there's no real criteria, we like what we like and that's fine. Entertainment value varies from person to person.
But for them to actually be relevant or somewhat meaningful for promoting learning or understanding, to be a valid interpretation of the ___, then I think the x has to be a bit more significant in, proficient at or more validly associated with the ___.

>> No.10063990

>>10063884
Nayrt, but you say this like those film students and artists don't also desire fame?

>> No.10063992

>>10063990
It's possible to create something artistic without wanting to gain fame for it. Amazing, I know.

>> No.10063996

>>10063884
They don’t stick their shit on YouTube, monetize it, pander to a lifestyle/subculture they openly claim not to even be a part of, cry because YouTube demonetizes them when they put unacceptable shit in their videos, accept sponsorships for shit things like Amino and try to shill it to their followers. Bit of a difference.

>> No.10064001

>>10063990
Not everything falls back to fame. Many filmmakers/artists probably do desire fame, but acting like that's always one of the main motivations to create is pretty silly. Someone can still simply make something they think is awesome and want to share that joy with other people: being proud of something and wanting other people to enjoy it with them isn't the same as being hungry for popularity and noteriety. I have a degree in studio art, and while I'm happy when someone appreciates my work, I've never been particularily attracted to fame. I don't even use my real name for most of what I do.
Honestly, if you really think the only reason someone would make a video/animation/art piece is to achieve fame, then... that's actually kind of sad and really speaks to what you value as a person.

>> No.10064004

>>10063996
Right again! How dare these creators attempt to potentially make a living off of their hard work, and possibly attain the resources needed to create more and better things? Frankly, I think any kind of art or craft should be absolutely free. I can't believe it's 2018 and people are still trying to make money from the things they create. Édouard Manet? Pffft, more like Édouard MONEY, amiright?

>> No.10064017

>>10064004
It’s fine to ask and make money from things, but there are standards of quality and people expect an adequate return on investment so no, people shouldn’t just flop their shit up on sm and expect the sponsorbux and fanbux to roll in because ‘muh creatives’. That’s the objection. At least mine. I’m actually _for_ fame and glory but it doesn’t usually fall into your lap just because you make a ‘reacts to’ video and beg on kofi

>> No.10064023

>>10064017
>standards of quality
I agree with that friendo, but even then people pay for what they want to see, and there's clearly an audience for lor and lwln, depite what we may think of them. Does that inherently mean what they do is some great "art"? No.
We seem to agree on that.

What l'm arguing with is the idea some gulls seem to have that sharing=famewhore. Idk if you're the gull I was originally replying too, but she seemed to think any kind of art being posted was in fact a plea for fame.

>> No.10064032

>>10064023
No I’m not that anon, I’m the one who thinks somewhere in the middle, that good content can ask dollars for expended content but people begging and crying on SM that people should just donate or sponsor them or ads allowed no matter what are doing it wrong and peeing in the creator pool.
I don’t particularly like either channel much personally but think SS is doing it right and LL is not.

>> No.10064099

>>10064023
Shes a famewhore because she panders to sjw clickbait shit and makes fun of Belgians.

>> No.10064102

>>10064023
>any kind of art being posted was in fact a plea for fame
How is this any different from the usual argument on cgl that dictates "if you post online, be prepared to take the heat" ie. Posting to CoF or Instagram publicly.

>> No.10064128

>>10064102
What the fuck are you talking about? How does this relate to the topic at all?

>> No.10064132

>>10064099
I feel like I'm stuck in a never-ending loop of "no true Scotsman"

>> No.10064137

>>10064099
Several people think this also because of the fact that she dug up the GLW controversy from its grave with no provocation and hammered us verbally about lots of unrelated Japanese pseudo-racism and black people (not that there isn’t lots of racism and xenophobia there)... and didn’t have a black guest, commenter or anything else indicating that she wasn’t just using the issue on her own platform to be controversial and yes, click-Baity. It’s a real and multi-faceted issue, racism in lolita but did her 2-part series educate, shed any new light, offer any new angle, build any bridges, bring any resolution etc? Or did it just reiterate the known facts, regurgitate them all over the viewer in a provocative and wordy blast and leave more questions than it even answered? If you are going to rile people up and just leave them that way, chances are they will not appreciate it. Or click your next bait-filled headline. It chews up your credibility to do that more than a couple of times.

>> No.10064180

>>10063990
I think "fame" is a different thing to seek out than "recognition". It's pretty obvious when someone is just grasping at any and everything they think will get them any kind of attention, vs someone who is seeking a specific audience that will resonate with their work. I don't really know or care which one Lor is since I don't watch her shit, but just pointing out that its not all cut from the same cloth.

>> No.10064269

>>10064128
I think they are just saying that if you put any content out on the internet people are going to have opinions about it and to just take it in stride and don’t cry about some people saying negative shit about it? Cause they will?

On the other hand, some people consider you posting to your social media publicly as a sort of fame-whoring and they will complain about it.

>>10064180
I think that depends on your outlook and what you consider fame vs recognition. I think FR posts very low key and SS does an ok amount of promoting but LL way overdoes it. But I’m sure many people have very different opinions and since none of the three have spoken much about it, we all will just judge what we see by the criteria we personally have.
Personally no western lolita youtuber gets it right for me to watch, I’d rather watch Misako, look at brand adverts and fashion shows, then see some event photos and the Tokyo street snaps, then research old bibles for a lot of my content and I do scroll cof. That’s plenty for me.

>> No.10064467

>>10063887
>Or a consistently well-dressed lolita who does educational videos about the fashion
I would like this, but I feel like almost any lolita who tries this is often or ita (or questionable at least), or their knowledge is limited to the style they wear and their tips become very one-dimensional, or a brand model (and it's an official channel, like kawaiipateen + Misako Aoki videos).

Based on previous experiences I'm doubting we'll get a well dressed lolita who isn't already famous to do that.

>> No.10064471

>>10064137
Who are "several people"?

>> No.10064474

>>10064137
If she had a black guest you'd all be saying she has the 'token black person' in her video and was just using her. So what is she supposed to do? Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I think her video was a bit SJWish and pandering but really she did an ok job.

>> No.10064538

>>10063946
>Just for the record, my cat is also offended by her yelling in the Lolita and Sex video
The fuck are you talking about

>> No.10064539

>>10064269
Holy shit it's an anon who can actually comprehend things

>> No.10064540

>>10064269
>On the other hand, some people consider you posting to your social media publicly as a sort of fame-whoring and they will complain about it.

That is ridiculous, makes me giggle every time someone talks about it like they really believe what they're saying

>> No.10064581

>https://youtu.be/d43udspqE7M

I agree with her in disliking the ita thread. It's sad people get made fun of, even if they're actually awkward. I prefer to support each other like she said.

But she sounds very butthurt and ignorant about lolita fashion. Most lolita who wear brand are not spoiled brats or rich kids, just people who save up and know how to shop. 300USD on a dress? My most expensive dress was 115USD and I have a full brand closet. You can find a lot of used dress for less than 50USD before shipping, and if you live in NA the local secondhand market is huge.

>> No.10064585

>>10064540
I don't know what you're doing on this board because that's a common thought process around here. Hence was the reasoning for having Instagram threads
If you make shit public it will get posted. They're asking for it when they make their posts publicly.
You're doubly asking for it if you go out of your way to upload a fully edited TV show.

>> No.10064592

Ugh somebody posted a nearly-upskirt photo in a seifuku skirt to a jfashion group with this caption

>Isn't it sweet when you are wearing cute J-Fashion and can't reach the stuff or things up high ? and maybe on that moment a very tall handsome man is helping you out which man can't resist a adorable pretty girl he should feel honored to get close to you

Kinksters should be banned

>> No.10064595

>>10064592
Oh god I saw that one and it was just so cringey, eeew.

>> No.10064598
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>>10064581
>I really don't care
>proceeds to ramble for almost 17 minutes and uploads it to youtube for everyone to see

>> No.10064602

>>10064592
Was the photo by itself as bad as the caption?

>> No.10064607

>>10064602
Maybe not as bad as the caption but... it was not good.

>> No.10064608

>>10064602
It wasn't that explicit but if the skirt had been half an inch shorter, her buttocks would have shown (she didn't bother wearing tights). Nothing to do with jfash whatsoever, just a cheap seifuku skirt. I don't want to post the pic because I couldn't find out if she's even of age. Hopefully it will get deleted.

>> No.10064615

>>10064608
I think she's wearing synthetic shorts or something like that. I think I can see something black under her skirt.

>> No.10064689

>>10064615

nayrt, but this doesn't make it much better. There's some late night Japanese game shows where the girls wear bikinis under their clothes and not actual underwear, but it doesn't stop the content from looking like, and generally being regarded as softcore porn.

I get that girls like being sexy and all that, but ya gotta find the right group to show off your slutty side. Jfashion group probably isn't the place to show off how horny you are.

>> No.10064740

>>10064471
The people griping about her. Duh.

>>10064474
Probably true cause people are going to bitch about anything on the internet. But i don’t really thing it’s ok for white people to blab on ‘explaining’ black issues like this either. If she’s so passionate about the issue why isn’t she already involved with a variety of black people who could be consulted about it?

If someone is going to stick their face on the internet and address an issue, I think that’s OK to expect actual personal involvement with and responsibility to the people that the issue most concerns.

She isn’t a serious journalist so she’s not bound by those professional responsibilities, ethics and guidelines, she’s the creator of a personal entertainment show and so she can cherry pick what she ‘reports’ on. Meaning that incendiary topics can just be fueled up and bomb-dropped for fun and entertainment. And sometimes that does more harm than good. She did something similar with her Belgian Lolita Mafia piece. Actual Belgians came in to the thread, explained that the girl SS dealt with is not representative of their community and that they did not appreciate her presentation. That’s a pretty clear message.

>> No.10064742

>>10064581
I don’t go on there...

One of the comments I read was...

Calling someone spoiled fucking bitch in the video...

Nope.
This person does not understand board culture at all. For a 28yo, she’s more than a bit slow on the uptake. No one has to like something. But if you are going to get on the internet and blab about it for 16+ minutes, you’ll just be rightfully dismissed as very ignorant if you don’t make an attempt to understand it somewhat...at least enough to grasp what’s going on and not be so clueless.

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> Dollbe closing shop
> uwu how will I find lolita that fits now
Get fucking wrecked 600lb-life chans. Is she too fat for hanelui? Imagine being too fat for the de facto fattychan brand.

>> No.10064866

>>10064859
Im not surprised, the design quality wasnt there. But I still think someone could make a bucket of money if they founded a brand with the construction sourced in China and had regular mto releases of decently pretty things for fatty chans at roughly taobao to haenuli prices with half down, half due at shipping time.

>> No.10064873

>>10064859
Hm. Her actual construction seemed OK, but most of her prints were ugly. Did any skinny girl ever buy a dress from her? I always wondered what it would look like

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>>10064873
I looked on Instagram but this was the only one I could find.

>> No.10064876

>>10064873
It should look similar, it's a very simple design almost like a sundress construction. The prints being ugly and the lack of frilly details were reasons the brand failed I think because her dresses are busy in the print but plain in details. Most bigger girls I know tend to like the really frilly stuff with lots of lace.

>> No.10064877

>>10064866
So like Amastacia, who are doing really well and have managed to stay nice quality? Or like Baby Ponytail but cheaper

>> No.10064883

>>10064581
Much like Hawthorne's Scarlet Letter, this video could have greatly benefited from being 1/2 of its published length

Also jesus christ is she drunk

>> No.10064887

>>10064876
>>10064873
The prints just seem like someone spent 30min overlaying shapes in paint. It would have been far better investment to have a solid piece with some detailing (frills, pintucks, etc) rather than paying for custom printing rubbish. That would actually require sewing capability beyond the absolute basics though.
>>10064877
Does Amastacia accommodate fattychans? Has anyone ever seen a well done dress from amastasia on a fattychan? Most things I see are normally shoes.

>> No.10064894

>>10064877
Either actually. But western fatties would support a western designer that did something luxurious-feeling, I think. If the dresses weren't sissy toddler dream bait, normies might cross over to them for fancy event dresses too. And bridesmaids. Elegant things for big girls aren't that easy to find in any fashion.

>>10064887
Print detail is cheaper to commission than sewn details, especially by the yard. Bigger sizes, more yardage. Still her print details and the dress designs themselves were both mostly too simplistic.

>> No.10064898

>>10064883
>Much like Hawthorne's Scarlet Letter, this video could have greatly benefited from being 1/2 of its published length
This sort of post is why I keep coming back to this board. I fucking love you, anon

>> No.10064902

New thread bitches >>10064900