/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Facebook post about the new policy

fb.com/KatsuNinjas/posts/10156278081659398

Laughing my ass off at the entitled tards complaining that Katsu should discount badges and that they would've bought it earlier if they knew.
You're supposed to buy badges in the first place to go. They didn't even have to make this announcement, they could've just sprung it up at the convention. Katsu doesn't owe you shit.

She deleted her posts but I was legit laughing at Gaius Cosplay shouting how all her friends are going to throw an anti Katsucon con at the MGM this year. Also see so many entitled photographers bitching about buying a badge now. You motherfuckers can charge hundreds to shoot but can't afford to shell out 70 bucks?! Get bent!

>>10030704
Hell I’ve been lobbyconning Katsu for years and I’m glad they’re finally doing this. I’m always willing to reg, I just never do anything that requires a badge so I’ve just never done it. Hopefully this cuts down a lot on the crowds and the entitled cosplayers and photogs who are only there for the photo ops.

>>10030704
Ugh samefag >>10030850 to add that people crying about discounts is definitely hilarious. If you can afford to travel to katsu anyway there should be no reason to cry about your precious budget.

>>10030850
Sweet Sensations and Athel Rogers are already crying and they're photographers who charge over $100 per shoot at Katsu while ghosting it

All people have to do is cutback on some small things and they can afford a badge (like doing less new costumes). This is just hilarious how pissed people are.

>>10030864

The amount of comments dragging Athel for his entitled bitching is incredible. Top kek for the evening.

Lol at people complaining about paying $70 for a weekend con while these people that are bitching most likely earn a salary of over $50k in the DC area. Fuck those broke ass entitled shits.

My favorite thing is all the people who are like “this is going to make it so that everyone who wants to enjoy the con for free can no longer do so.” No shit. If you want to go to the con, buy a badge.

>photogs roaming the con with 10k camera gear
>cant afford a con badge

>>10030687
I'm a mega poorfag for someone who goes to as many cons as I do, but even I think people whining about this are just fucking cheap. If you really can't shuffle your budget around and come with the money for an actual badge, you don't need to be there.

I wish more cons would do this.

>>10030800
No one cares about Gaius cosplay for her to start her own convention. Shes a used up slag whore for UV photography.

>>10030956
You laugh, but the amount of people crying says it's needed to be said. No participation awards here!

>>10031057
I don't care either. She's an untalented hack. I was just laughing at her claims. Funny how fast she deleted her comments.

>>10030925
Isn’t Athel a cuck anyway? I remember the name coming up following the ColossalCon drama.

>>10031159

He was called out for not having any portfolio diversity after Colossalcon. He's still throwing a temper tantrum on his personal and is threatening a friend sweep because people are calling him a little bitch for whining about having to pay $70 for a badge when one of his shoots costs $120. He bragged about being completely booked but is still advertising himself to cosplayers so it really looks like he isn't doing as well as he wants us to believe kek. It's some EMCP tier shit rofl.

>>10031215
EMCP won't be there, since he always ghosted Katsu, and I doubt they'll ever have him on staff anymore after the amount of complaints on him

>>10030800
God I see photog friends bitching and I know for a fact they make over 2k from shoots at this con every year.

>>10031159
He’s a pretty shit photographer. The examples on his page are pretty much the best possible shots, what he gives back after shoots doesn’t compare in quality. He likes to shoot asian girls, but unless you’re his friend or he’s thirsting after you, the shots will still turn out mediocre.

>>10030864
Sweet Sensations cries about having to pay for any badge. A local small con has had to raise their prices due to unforeseen expenses, and she recently went on a rantfest about how the pricetag is obscene and nobody should attend, all while stating that she hasn't attended in years and never planned on it.

Is it just me, or is it mostly children under 18 and photographers who are constantly trying to cheapskate cons out of badge fees?

>>10031309
The good thing about this news is at least I know which of my friends are good people, and which phoitographers are worth working with, just for morale reasons alone.

Seen a few past ghosters who also are smart to stay silent and just noddingly agree with the policy change. Waiting to see the fallout when magfest announces it now.

>>10031359
Tbh I ghost Katsu every year and I still agree with the policy change. I’m not delusional enough to think that I deserve any accommodations because I didn’t plan to get a badge. Tbh this really only affects the room stuffers who also ghost, since being a registered guest clears you as well.

>This means that for the duration of the convention weekend the Gaylord National Resort and Convention Center will only be accessible to people wearing - or in the process of obtaining - a Katsucon membership badge, registered Gaylord National guests, or guests with a confirmed restaurant or spa appointment. This is not in response to any particular threat or incident but is instead a proactive measure. Katsucon's closed profile will allow a greater degree of safety for all attendees, guests and staff and brings our convention in line with other large events held at the Gaylord National throughout the year.

Later they admitted that it WAS for security.

>Respectfully, this wasn't something that was planned months ago. It was fairly recent due to incidents that have happened at events.

Here's the rates of one of the photogs who were salty about the closed con. He posted it right after the news was announced. 70 dollars extra for an extra person and 5 images? How fucking obvious can you get? Don't fucking go if you don't want to pay for a badge.

That aside 170 dollars (100+70) is a lot of fucking money for 5 images of 2 people that are average shots at best.

If said photog had specified that duos would get more photos on return maybe the price would seem more reasonable lmao

>>10031370
Here's the image, didn't realize it didn't post

>>10031370
All of these photogs can easily buy a badge with all the money they get from booking requests. They just do not want to pay.

>>10031368
That's because it's a mandate from the Gaylord, not Katsucon. A few Magfest staffers have also already mentioned on their own private pages a similar announcement will be coming from Magfest soon.

>>10031383
A few are already making fun of the ghosting photographers, and I support it 100%

>>10030800
She cries poverty but her parents deadass bought her a house lmaoooooooo

>>10031419
The facebook page says that the decision was made by Katsucon itself, with coordination with the Gaylord National.

>>10031419
Be happy they aren't doing mandatory bag checks and metal detectors like the DC Convention center does with Otakon and Awesome Con.

>>10031439
Otakon does not do metal detectors, only bag checks. More and more convention centers are doing bag checks these days. Pretty much any venue in DC I enter is doing it and cons in various cities are as well.

>>10031436
No it doesn't. It says in coordination with the Gaylord.

>>10030800
Skank buys a car and house and can't afford a badge and healthcare lol

>>10031469
Regardless of who made the decision the gaylord would have to be involved in order to enforce it

>>10031308
>. The examples on his page are pretty much the best possible shots, what he gives back after shoots doesn’t compare in quality.
Not to defend him, but doesn't every photog do this?

>>10031651
No, usually photos are somewhat comparable in quality. What kind of shit photogs do you work with? It’s understandable that you post the best shots, but not when you don’t put any effort into work that you do for your customers.

>>10031694
Most of my friends who worked with him had bad experiences with the quality he gave back and how unprofessional he is. None of this surprises me.

>>10031651
Most photographers can produce the same quality for their shots, not just a handful of good shots and edits from a whole batch, unless they're one of the photographers that run their photos through the same presets every single time.

Like you take 50 photos, and only three are good, that's bad. Same if all 50 look exactly the same, that can be bad. You want to be able to show off multiple photos with different tweaks to show your editing ability, but also not show that you only know how to edit one way.

>>10031419
>Magfest is gonna eliminate ghosting too
Fuck. I always pay for Katsucon because I like the panels, but I only ever ghost Magfest on the single day that there's the Spike Chunsoft photoshoot.

You all realize the legality of this? If I go to the hotel space and buy a starbucks they cannot kick me out im a customer. Additionally, How do they intend to determine who is a hotel guest? Is the Hotel providing the convention staff with its guest information?

>>10032433
It’s perfectly legal, because they won’t even let you on premises unless you show you have a reservation or a room key. A registered hotel guest will have a room key, you retard. Have you never heard of booking a venue for an event?

Hahaha

Hm They statement clearly states Spa or Restaurant reservations. They ignore the other services they sell on Hotel Premise. Addiionally I am talking Hotel Space not Convention space. As a hotel guest i do not need to show Convention Staff a key card and by your fucked logic i would "losing" my key card and selling the ones that are de activated

>>10032433
Dragoncon already bars people without a badge or key card from entering the host hotels.

Try again.

>>10032445
If you have a reservation at spa or hotel, they’ll have a record of it. Since this decision was made in conjunction with the Gaylord, I would assume the Gaylord will provide the necessary information to enforce it. You realize they don’t actually have to let you in to go buy coffee right?
There’s no reason for you to be wandering around the hotel with a spa or restaurant reservation. I don’t think you understand, it’s a closed profile event, which means the hotel space IS the convention space. And even if it wasn’t, even if you were a registered guest, a hotel has every right to ask you to leave the premises if you don’t comply with their rules. If you’re unwilling to prove you’re a guest, they can do the same. Unless you have a reason for it, say trying to sneak into an event hosted by the hotel, no guest is going to refuse to show any proof that they’re staying in a hotel while still loitering in the lobby. Freeloaders are pretty obvious.

Also, learn to reply butthurt newfag

>>10031859
>Like you take 50 photos, and only three are good, that's bad.

>3/50 is bad
Time to throw my DSLR away

Very nice insults. I only give you a B-

You made an assumption I will go with it. It would be bothersome if the Gaylord gave Volunteer staff my personal information.

Additionally, Now is i have a spa or resteraunt reservation I get my very own Gaylord Hotel staff assistant to babysit me? Such quality service.

Also redundant statement If I am a guest the hotel has record of it. Convention staff does not. There is a clear difference between them. One of them get paid and have HR Benefits. If you get an adult job one day you too may have these yourself.

As a Businessman it is not uncommon for me to meet other individuals i know when they visit at a hotel bar such as the gaylord for a few drinks. I do not need to be sneaky. So lets recap.

I would love to have the convention clearly state that all other forms of sales such as coffee is limited to only guests and attendees.

Now for some fun.

Fine I accept your logic till end of days. So I will simply surpass it.

If you are in my hotel room at gaylord and are buying a badge I will not list you formally as a guest in that room. Not needed as Badge or proof of hotel stay is needed. I will then simple offer to put others who do not have badges as guests in my room. Now as far as hotel list is concerned they are guests.

Clearly there are implications to this but if thats the logic the convention and venue shall use clearly its terribly flawed anyway and this has become a fun game for me.

Ok your turn. :). *See how I did not need to insult people when I use logic*

>>10032477
see >>10032466

Already addressed both Key Cards and Badges but thank you for not reading. Next. How many Staff can we get arguing on this thread?

>>10032477
>Additionally, Now is i have a spa or resteraunt reservation I get my very own Gaylord Hotel staff assistant to babysit me? Such quality service.
"I'm sorry, due to conflicting schedules we will have to cancel and reschedule your spa/restaurant reservation for another date"

Better yet, the gaylord institutes blackout days during the duration of the con where you cant reserve the spa unless you have a concurrent reservation with the hotel.

Don't play the rules lawyer game in a city full of lawyers bruh.

Thanks for that wonderful update

4chan is now a city full of lawyers. You heard it here first.

"I am not your buddy pal"

I love new information. Its a good thing. Only idiots fear information.

>>10032488
>>10032490
see >>10032466

>>10032493
>>10032488
see >>10032466

>>10032477
>Making a $150 spa reservation that won't even get you access to programming rooms because you're so assrashed about paying Katsucon $70 for the convention you have no business attending for free

>>10032532
Oh wait I'm sorry, a $150 reservation that won't even get you into the hotel for more than one day.

Please so this though. I can't wait to see all of the salty crybabies try to "beat" the system this way, as though door check is not common at many, many other cons already.

>>10032493
>4chan is now a city full of lawyers. You heard it here first.
You have a reading comprehension problem.

>>10032538
On top of a reality comprehension problem. Must be a hard life.

>>10032477
If you have an "adult job," why the hell wouldn't you just pay the $70 to buy the badge for the con instead of arguing about how clever you think you are on 4chan?

"this has become a fun game for me" are you gonna write katsucon's name in the deathnote now? Fuck, we're hosed.

>>10032433
A hotel isn't a public space. It's semi-private, so they can determine who's allow on premises.

>>10032475
or learn to improve which is the cheaper or best option

>>10031419
good. sick and tired of katsu cosplayers clogging the damn atrium around the gazebo. go take your anime cosplay somewhere else

>>10032477
>As a Businessman it is not uncommon for me to meet other individuals i know when they visit at a hotel bar such as the gaylord for a few drinks. I do not need to be sneaky.

You aren't a business man you're a 15 year old who's buttflustered he might have to spend his year's income on a con ticket

Also hotel/con staff can absolutely tell the difference between a businessman who just happens to be at the hotel and a little shit trying to game the system. They're going to have it in writing that nobody's allowed in, but only bother actually going after the obvious dumbasses.

>>10032787
No

>>10032477
ITT: arrogant poser Photog about to get a trespass charge.

>>10032433
You are not allowed in the hotel space to even go to the Starbucks. Go ahead, try it and see what happens. UV photography learned the hard way what its like to fuck with Hotel and Convention staff. You are not above the rules and not even close to important enough for them to waive them for you.

>>10032445
Katsucon takes over the entire hotel. Any other guest is there for other events they are registered for.

I love how these edge lords thing they are slick.

>>10032477
>this whole post

>>10032872
What happened to UV ?

>>10032939
He got banned from AWA for doing that, I don't have the whole story of why, but I think he got arrested?

>>10032477
>As a Businessman it is not uncommon for me to meet other individuals i know when they visit at a hotel bar such as the gaylord for a few drinks. I do not need to be sneaky.

This is what I imagine you look like

>>10032794
>"Unhand me, SIR, I always wear my UA school uniform and green wig when I go to my corporate seminars!"

>>10032477
Bro I used to work as a night manager at a hotel. People did that trick all the time with prostitutes saying "its my guest" (bro its a fucking ho). This is why some extreme hotels have the one person per bed rule because prostitution is RAMPANT. For meetings the business hotels had the day passes OR they were doing hiring conferences where everyone who was going to be in and out was put on a list that the hotel had.

Hotels have to legally have a record of everyone at the hotel. For the day businesses they have lists. You literally have no idea how much of a nightmare conventions are for hotels and WHY badging exists. If the hotel wanted to be dicks they would do the 10% rule and check 10% of rooms for stuffing and seeing who was on the lists. (I really want them to start doing this and cutting back on stuffing and fucking minors).

tl;dr you are dumb.

>>10033121

>Checking rooms for stuffing

Man, Could imagine if any con hotel (Especially hotels attached TO the Venue) did this? So many people would be fucked... But at the same time, Almost all Venue hotels know this goes on during the events. Hell, This year at AWA the lady said "will 6 keys be enough" for a room with 2 beds...


But all in all, I think this is a great idea - I've never been to Katsucon - But I think any con that has a hotel attached to the venue could benefit from this. If you can't afford the $70~ for a badge, Why the fuck are you at a con in the first place?

And lol to all the butthurt photographers! I know camera equipment isn't exactly cheap, and you've got the cost of travel, etc... but if you didn't factor that into the $100+ per person shoots you do... then gloating about being "Fully booked" the whole weekend.. If you can afford the extra money for a badge.... Then fuck you and your camera...

Dragoncon has been doing this for a while now... I've also been told they black out any type of reservations for the bars / restaurants /etc in the area to prevent people from using that as a loophole. I believe the Gaylord will probably be doing the same.

>>10032760
I mean my keeper shots are improving.
Keeper:shit ratio is fucked though.

>>10032477
This is so much reddit spacing it has to be ironic, right?

how many times am i going to see aphotographer start off their ad with them being a professional photographer? are they published too?

>>10033799

Sounds like a new drinking game

>>10032477
... this has to be a shitpost, right?

>>10032477
nibba

>>10030864
>>10030925
Got screen caps? I can’t find where this was happening. Want to show my friends to warn them about Athel

>>10034730
A lot of it was happening on the posts of other cosplay photographers he's friends with, but you can see some of them on the Katsucon post announcing the badge requirement too

>>10034897
Nah he deleted his post there last night. I know at least one person took screencaps though.

>>10034905
Fuck. Any anon got them caps? Want to see the self righteous bs. He always show up on my feed bragging about how easy it’s to make money off weebs.

Most people bitching don't even know what they're talking about, like this idiot who's complaining about all the issues with katsucon, except it's mostly Gaylord related

>>10035443
Was hoping to see the repost of him arguing about getting a badge discount

I'm curious to see how they enforce this, I went to AX and stayed at a hotel where they used wristbands to try to prevent room stuffing. It was fairly easy to get access by trading them off like some people do with badges at a normal con. Idk, although this will obviously cut down on ghosting i'm not sure if it will help with people actually staying at the hotel.

Holy shit that facebook thread.

Spergery and cosplay are like peanut butter and jelly.

God, the people bitching about he badge thing is too much. I've been attending Katsucon for years and never had a problem paying for a badge, gas, food, and hotel because I plan in advance. If you're going to a huge con KNOWN for being in a pricey location, should you not expect to maybe...... budget??? It really seems like everyone complaining is either a minor who can't afford a badge or a cheapskate who's used to lobby conning.

Ghosting for the sake of profiting off a con (like so many photogs do) is an entirely different thing but even more irritating.

Here's hoping the policy actually cuts down the number of people trying to be cheap.

>>10035465

I don't think I got caps of that but hopefully another gull comes through

>>10035952
I joined a group and one of the runners messaged us like "I can't do my cosplay for this anymore because Katsucon is making us buy badges and that was my costume budget :(" and it launched a discussion on how "omg I know I NEVER buy badges idk if I can go now!!!" and it's like "How...do you go to a convention and not plan to pay for the convention...."

I'm 24 now and the number of people my age or older that pull the "I can't afford x but I'm going to blankcon and bringing 20 new cosplays kofi depending" and also bitch about ghosting is INSANE! Aren't we at the age where we're saving for like, houses and stuff like that? Cons are a vacation and a privilege, not a right. Conventions don't owe you shit.

>>10036210
It's people like that that never grew out of their broke teenaged weeb days where you could stuff 10 people in a room and live off junk food and free water all weekend.

>>10036237
I don’t mind being in a room that is slightly more full than it should be (more for convenience than money, because I’ve stayed by myself outside the harbor before and it was really inconvenient if peaceful) but I always buy a badge. I also don’t overfill rooms if I’m the one booking.

I used to know people who ghosted frequently by buying one or two badges for their group and swapping them around when they wanted to go to the dealers room or the AA. Their justification was that they were going to spend the money they’d “waste” on badges by commissioning artists or buying merch.

Fwiw the reason I’m not friends with them anymore is because they charged parking to a room in my name (it was a suite) and never paid me for that or their portion of the room and lied about it after the con, insisting they had paid me in cash. People who ghost have ethical issues. If your friends ghost regularly, they may fuck you over, too.

>>10033220

While not for stuffing. For those extra special rooms that try to hang banners. They had security go inside and take them down when people weren't there.

Should I start booking shoots now or sometime in January
Pls respond, am photog

>>10039659
Wait till January FFS. I hate when I see photographers opening their shoots up four months in advance before anyone knows what their cosplay schedule is.

>>10039659
Charge cheap and you'll get bookings. Too many photographers asking people to PM them for prices which reeks of cringe. Sure these assholes are giving away free or cheap shoots to good cosplayers without trying to alert others. The rest are the mid to high price ones, but at least they're up front with prices.

don't be one of those asses that jumps on a cosplayer announcing they're cosplaying and start listing your rates unless they say they're looking to book paid shoots.

>>10039659
How do you git gud at cosplay photography? I'm not looking to do it for anything besides practice, but I still want to get good practice. What lens do you usually use, 50mm?

>>10035952
It will. It won't prevent ghosting completely, but it will help cut down on it a lot.

>>10040304
Just practice a lot, scenery, objects, people.

Just practice a lot.

I've been sneaking into cons for over 10 years. If you need a badge just steal one off of someone taking a photo. They always put their bags down like clockwork whenever you ask for a photo.

This isn't going to stop anyone.

>>10040368
Now you're just a thief.

>>10040368
Nice fantasy. You've got a couple problems with your story though.

>You specifically say you steal off of cosplayers taking random hall photos and not in the middle of a photoshoot, but anyone stopping for a hall photo is going to just set their bag down within a foot or two.
>If the badge is in the bag it's probably not easily visible or visible at all. It's INSIDE the bag. Unless you got lucky and the lanyard is hanging over the edge, it's going to take several seconds to go diving.
>At least one person is literally staring at the cosplayer being photographed. You think they aren't going to notice some rando ducking into their shoot and rummaging around in the cosplayer's bag?

And of course

>The badge check is at the con entrance, dipshit. Nobody is going to take a photo for you outside the con center in the freezing cold.

>>10040036
>Sure these assholes are giving away free or cheap shoots to good cosplayers without trying to alert others
What would your first thoughts be if I posted an ad saying I'd be doing free shoots, but only for characters/cosplays that I am familiar with

>>10040660
I am following this because I would do the same thing

>>10039867
some of us are being booked now when we are still on current conventions and have slight backlogs please I beg of you let me breath

>>10040366
Thoughtful practice*, ie you can't just shoot and expect to get good, it isn't like working out where unironically doing it will get you fit by sheer time (prison syndrome), but you have to take a photo, and when you are at the PC, think about what made that photo good or bad, internalize it and then keep doing that. Never stop thinking about the photo and make it part of the process

>>10041063
Anon, it's your bookings. YOU can tell people you are not opening Katsucon slots until January - nobody is forcing you to take on new clients before you're ready.

>>10040660
It depends on your quality of work. If your example photos are garbage, then you'll still get garbage applicants. I'm friends with a lot of photographers who will only shoot what they like (some for free, some for a fee) and it works out well for them.

>>10041139
How do they turn down those that they don't like?

>>10041139
In their advertisement, they state that their shoots are not first come first serve and submitting the form does not guarantee a slot. And also after the form closes they will notify those they chose. I think they just post on social media that all applicants have been chosen, so they don't contact every single person they didn't pick. They always receive way more requests than they can shoot, so even the ones who charge have the freedom to pick things they are more excited about shooting.

>>10041255
Oops >>10041255 is for >>10041248

>>10041255
>>10041257
Thanks!
Will keep that in mind when I eventually post my ad.

>>10041255
pick and choose is basically code for "asian or hot cosplayers only". "no blacks or fatties". check their portfolio. it's obvious.

>>10041437
>someone posts their portfolio
>it's legitimately all asians

>>10041437
Who the fuck would want to shoot uggos and fatties tho if they can choose

>>10041437
Nobody is obligated to shoot your lazy, ugly cosplay, especially if they aren't charging.

>>10040660
I think if you state that you're looking to do this for free because it's a hobby for you that you want to get better at, and then list the characters/shows you'd be interested in doing shots for, you'd be fine.

Unless that list is simply made up of boudoir shoots.

>>10041455
That's why you don't book with Athel

>>10041523
No, you don’t book with him cause his result looks nothing like his promos, not because he doesn’t shoot ugly people.

>>10041523
Actually his promote card changed for the last few cons. It’s no longer all Asians, and he sprinkled some blacks on his feed.

Ash B called him out after last colossalcon prime and Amie Photo did the the same right before otakon.

>>10041529
Seconding this. Unless you’re cute or asian his photos are boring as fuck. it’s like he’s not even trying.

>>10041642
More photographers need calling out. Tired of shitty ones being tossed about as awesome, when most seem to be mediocre, while decent photographers are buried thanks to people being buddy-buddy with certain cosplayers and cosplay photography share pages (which are just a cancer on Instagram).

>>10041677
See
>>10041461
>>10041465

>>10041677
No point, look at photographers that molested or sexually assaulted cosplayers. They just change their names and people shoot with them again. You also have cosplayers who defend creepers with BS like, oh he's a nice guy and you're a liar. Same with those who take money and run off

>>10041706
>Change their names
Give examples pls

>>10041461
>>10041465
We are talking about photographers who are charging upward of $195 per photoshoot. They should not discriminate if they’re taking money

>>10041706
Blue shell and Robert Hoang are two fine examples. 100% certified creepers

>>10041714
>Robert Hoang
Is he seriously still shooting under a different name?
I figured with how much shit he got when he was blacklisted people would have caught on if he simply changed his name and continued to shoot. That seems like way too much of a comically easy way to circumvent the blacklist.

>>10041708
Blue shell changed to Just Cosplay and nobody bet an eye. lol

>>10041712
>They should not discriminate if they’re taking money

"Discriminate" is not really the right word for picking cosplays that interest you. If a photographer refuses to shoot with cosplayers of a certain race/build no matter how great they look, yeah, that's a problem but it's not what's being discussed in this reply thread. Accepting payment does not mean that a photographer absolutely must shoot with you if you apply. That's like saying an artist absolutely must draw your commission when you ask them to.

Nobody HAS to take your money. Make a better cosplay and you'll be more appealing to photographers.

>>10041740
Does “better cosplay” mean thin Asian girl? We see thorough your shit.

>>10041790
If you want to call out a racist photographer (nice "blackout" btw), just do it. You don't need to hijack an unrelated discussion about posting and choosing shoot requests because then you just sound like you can't read.

>>10041811
>>10041790
Point flew over anon’s head. Did you even read over what you wrote?

>>10041835
Yes, yes, we know, you really want to talk about how all the famous photographers are racist. However the original poster was asking about only shooting "characters/cosplays that I am familiar with" and how to turn down other applicants. Try reading again.

>>10041790
so true. Every single male photographer in the katsucon fb group

No idea where the conversation got confused but there shouldn’t be anything wrong with rejecting applicants if they don’t have a costume you’re comfortable shooting. Just be honest. People will inevitably get upset if they feel like you don’t “represent” things like plus size and POC cosplayers but in the end it’s your own damn business and you can do and charge and shoot whatever the hell you want. You don’t owe anyone anything.

In relation to Katsu, I’m noticing a huge jump in prices in the photog posts that have been coming up. $50-100 for 8 shitty dlsr shots? What the fuck is going on? I’ve never seen con photogs charge as much as Katsu photogs do. I realize they’re trying to scam up the price of the badges they originally hadn’t planned on buying but this is getting ridiculous.

>>10041712
Why the fuck would you shoot paying uggos and fatties when you could shoot paying hot cosers

>>10042575
Hot cosers don’t want to pay because they’re all sluts that want shit for free.

>>10042638
So i’m guessing no one wanted to book you huh?
It’s basic economics buddy. These photogs only go to katsu if they break even from photoshoots. If they reject all uggos and fatties and only shoot with hot cosplayers, they’re obviously being paid enough by said hot cosplayers. If not, they’d accept bookings from the uggos.

>>10042502
8 DSLR shots for $100 is cheap, look outside a con, and you can find shoots on average of $250-$450 for regular shoots (more, if rentals are involved).

>>10041790
op's portfolio isn't even diverse. on her instagram you have to go all the way to last year to see a single POC. talk about pot calling the kettle black.

>>10030800
I hope this pushes through. Id like to see a Tanacon 2.0

>>10042748
That’s going to be hilarious. Doesn’t the mgm not like cosplayers going in there already?

>>10042737
No shit it’s more expensive outside a con, you have to make up for travel and time off and any other expenses. With cons the average is lower because people are already spending a fuckton just getting there so photogs tend to charge less so they can book more. These people just shouldn’t be charging $100 for shots that look like they were taken by a five year old who was just handed a disposable camera. If I’m dropping money on a photog I want nice shots.

>>10043061
>$100 for shots that look like they were taken by a five year old
Post examples, very curious to see if these people actually get bookings.

>>10042997
It's an active casino, pretty sure they'll frown on cosplayers showing up with props for photos

>>10043065
Surprisingly the number of photographers charging over $75 is rarer than I thought or they're buried beneath tons of posts. Here's a quick collage of photos from different photographers charging $75 and over. I removed their watermarks to prevent any biases and am just going by their rate of money charged. Not counting number of edits or time of shoot into it.

>>10043109
I mean some of these are of questionable quality like the top 2 and bottom middle and maybe the bottom right, but the others look quite nice and I can definitely see them being fully booked this con.

>>10043109
Suprised you left out Lou Lou ($100) and Amie ($195). Their ads are still up in the Facebook groups. I see your bias there :)

>>10043109
Say what you want about athel delivering subpar photos to uggos, but the photos he used in his ad are lit. I instantly recognized which one in the collage is his.

Give me recs on attractive photogs /gulls/

>>10043120
I didn't see there's at the time of browsing. Just saw the ones I saw advertising and jumped over to their pages to find a larger res pic of something that looked to be from a paid shoot and not a hall shot, specially if they used as a profile or cover photo for their page and tried to avoid a photo from their ads since photogs always choose the best for ads, but if nothing else was present, then a larger pic from their ad

>>10043120
Amie has a pic in that collage. If you can;t tell which one's is her's, then editor choose a good pic she doesn't push a lot to show her skill.

>>10043133
Too bad you're probably not going to get a photo like you see in the ad. Athel is decent when he gives a shit which is such a small fraction of the time that it doesn't even matter.

>>10043061
I charge a tiny fee for flakes and because it keeps me revenue neutral wrt cons, for 100 that’s a damn lot

>>10043763
Athel’s photos with sam are so good though. Which is weird because Sam isn’t even asian. But I agree he’s usually hit or miss with randos.

>>10043764
I used to occasionally get small tips after a shoot, but I started charging a small fee because people kept wasting my time and flaking by not showing up for shoots at cons. One of those sits where it was like, Let's shoot, and they're like, okay!, but then day of they're running late, no shows, or are too drunk.

As time passed I started charging more due to longer shoots and longer editing times as I started learning programs, plus I started valuing my editing time.

I laugh when I see some of these photographers charging $30 for a one hour shoot with 12 edits. I'm assuming they're editing is minimal at best, but just time wise and number of photos, they're not going to even make minimum wage at the end of the shoot for the hour.

It's like asking someone to commission a cosplay but then only paying for the cost of shipping and materials.

>>10043856
For me, I don't need the money (I make more by breathing at work than everyone but the 100 dollar an hour guys jesus christ you are like "Union new Crane worker" wages), but you said it. The small fee somehow A: increased my customer base which is awesome and B: eliminated 95% of flakes. I may bump it up in 2 years once minimum wage averages 12 an hour nationwide, since the goal is more, "Show up on time please, my convention time is "be professional" and after hours its charging time, have a few drinks and honestly, I do all my experimental shoots at night when I have 0 pressure so I can do fun things.

If I was to charge minimum wage I would have to unironically charge 50 and now 60 thanks to the minimum wage bump and because I feel bad about this. You are pretty much dead on the basic rate. I feel you should start for free BUT charge for everyone unless you know they won't flake on you.

>>10043856
>longer shoots, longer editing times, learning programs
>started valuing my editing time
I make okay money at my job so I don't really need the extra $$ but I feel like this is really starting to apply to me as most of my free time is seemingly spent editing. It's legitimately starting to feel like an awful drain and source of stress vs. this fun new world to explore and experiment in when I first started out.
I also feel like a lot of people are only booking with me simply because I'm a free photog, they want free pics but don't actuslly care for my editing style. I'd love to be a bit more picky but looking at how people in this thread are reacting to photogs being picky and choosy I feel like my choices are limited to working with people/cosplays that I'm not too excited about and being miserable working in post for 2957392 hours on shots I don't even like, or actually working with cosplayers that I'm excited to work with but risk being called out or shunned for whatever reason.

>>10043749
Is the middle left photo by Amie? That’s the only one that can remotely pass for a photo from her and the color/contract just do not match her style. Anon you had me stumped.

>>10044173
I'd guess middle right because of the fucked saturation

>>10044180
>>10044173
I actually thought it was the bottom right photo. The random color splash s one of her signature aesthetics.

>>10044180
Middle Right is Maddi May/rat.ling, she's a fashion photographer that started doing cosplay photography at katsu last year if I remember correctly.

>>10043749
Which one is it, anon?

>>10044173
>>10044180
>>10044415

I think it's the one on the upper left

>>10044478
That’s ame photography, without an “I”. Similarly named but otherwise unrelated.

I don't attend Katsu but I love this new badge policy. Freeloaders can fuck off.

>>10044033

No one gives a fuck if you're free, anon. If you don't charge, shoot what you want. The people that are being complained about charge.

>>10044033
>>10044799
What anon said. Nobody gives a shit who you shoot if you’re free.

That’s unless you’re good. Then you’re an elitist. Jelly people be jelly. Just ignore them.

>>10044799
Even if you charge, you can shoot what you want. You just miss out on uggo dollars.

Anyone shot with chezphoto before? She just started a giveaway and 20 minutes for $200 seem very steep. Her photos are very nice though.

>>10045156
I’ve shot with her a few times. She does great work and is very professional. I usually hate how I look in photos but she can consistently take photos of me I actually like, not just ones don’t hate. That’s worth the price for me, personally, but I also have more disposable income than a lot of cosplayers. I’ll probably have her shoot my next project when it’s finished.

There are certain subjects/series she seems more excited about shooting than others (I don’t cosplay from her favorite genre of costuming, for example), but I wouldn’t not recommend her based on that. If you do really detailed cosplays, she’s very good at capturing that kind of work.

>>10045156
$200 for 5 photos is more than I would pay in my current situation but if I had money I would, I think her work speaks for itself

>>10045156
I agree with other anons. Chez is about the same price as Amie but her posing and editing is superb. Plus no ugly saturation and contrast like Amie.

>>10043109
Is the middle bottom shinakophotos? Her photos are trash, and I suspect she might be mentally challenged. Didn’t realize she charges 75+ good luck.

Happy change of pace, what’s your cosplay line up for Katsu?

>>10043109
I really like the very center and bottom left, also interested in top left and middle right, who are the photographers for each?

>>10047078
Definitely her but she's only charging $25 for 30 minutes according to her insta, nowhere near $75

I feel like the laughable part is photogs setting time at 30 minutes or less. That's a sure sign that you'll end up with a handful of mediocre photos and maybe one good one.

>>10047237
If you know what you're doing and it's a solo shot, you absolutely don't need more than thirty minutes to produce three or so good photos. Shooting more than one cosplayer is a different story.

>>10047261
It might be enough to get a good photo from a photographer's point of view, but it definitely isn't from a cosplayer's point of view. Adjusting little things like pose to make the photo look more dynamic, face angle, wig, costume, etc. takes much longer than that.

>>10047237
Just because you’re not very good doesn’t mean others can’t produce good photos under 30 minutes. Chezphotos charges $200 per 20 minutes and she has long line of repeated customers. Git gud

>>10047269
I'm a cosplayer and a decent photographer. If both your subject and your photog are good, it is absolutely possible to get a great shot in thirty minutes unless your subject is especially bad at posing.

>>10047378
One great shot is doable, but five? Doubtful. Most of these people who are paying for photogs suck at posing as well.

>>10047296
Read the thread retard, a technically good photo=\=a photo that shows the cosplayer and costume in the best possible way.

>>10047450
People would pay $200/20 mins for photos that don’t show the cosplayer and costume in the possible way.

Let me guess. You also fuck around with the focus ring for minutes to get the focus in focus.

>>10047474
No, I’m a cosplayer who gets free shoots with these same photogs that charge $100+ for 30 mins because I’m popular and cute. Our shoots are almost always at least 1 hour.
I just know the amount of time that it takes to get the perfect photo, and <30 min won’t cut it. Stop selfposting and taking things so personally.

>>10047493
Different anon but I am also a cosplayer who gets free shots with these same photographers because I am well known and make detailed cosplays. I actually dislike when my shoots run an hour just for a solo run because I need very little direction and that means I am spending most of my time waiting around for the photog to adjust settings. Some of my favorite shots are from shoots that lasted 15-20 minutes. <30 is not a guarantee the photographer is bad.

>>10047639
I didn’t say that the photographer was bad, I said you wouldn’t get 5 amazing shots. <30 is a guarantee that you’ll get at most 2 great shots and the rest will be mediocre, even if the photo is technically good in terms of photography. Please read before replying to a thread.

>>10047639
kek you sound like someone who only takes glamour shots in the same pose for every costume

>>10047639
>>10047474
My friend Dan Seiter always take his time. Instead of doing the same poses for every cosplayer, he experiment with different camera angles and poses.

>>10047891
And you should stop being so assrashed that someone has a different opinion than you. "<30 is a guarantee that you’ll get at most 2 great shots" is an opinion or your personal experience, not a fact.

>>10048095
>pointing out that 30 min isn't enough time to get a bunch of amazing shots
>wahh you're butthurt!!!
>wahhh you're just upset that you can't take great photos!!
stop getting defensive chez, no one was calling you out directly in the first place.

Georgia cosplayer here, I've always wanted to go to Katsucon because I've heard the cosplay scene there is top-tier. However, I have a hard time justifying traveling so far for a 3-day con. In your opinion, is it worth a 9.5-hour drive, plus badge and hotel costs?

>>10049548

No. Stay home, it's already too crowded, and if you don't recognize what Katsu is to the cosplay community you clearly have nothing to bring to the table anyway.

>>10049555
Dude wtf are you talking about
What exactly do you think Katsucon is to the cosplay community, if you don't want out-of-state cosplayers showing up?

>>10049548
Overall it’s not worth it. I travel from Texas and I literally only go to see friends because it’s the only con all my east coast friends go to but it’s very hard to justify the cost. Save your money and go to your local cons.

>>10049548
It’s not worth it unless you’re a photographer and want to make a quick buck. Its also a good con to meet and network with famous cosplayers and photographers if that means something to you

>>10047144
I'm definitely planning on fixing up Roy (FE) and making Marcille (Dungeon Meshi). If time and budget allows I might end up making something else to cosplay with friends but they haven't decided on anything else and I don't have the skill or budget for an Overwatch cosplay.

>>10049548
You have AWA. It is NOT worth it. I am a NYer her and I go to Atlanta because AWA is where the south meets up so I can meet up with friends there but if you are coming up for any con, AnimeNYC, hell Anime Boston >>> Katsucon. I am only going because its a short trip (3.5 hours with traffic) and yeah.

>>10049584
>>10049595
>>10049913
Thanks guys, I'll take your advice and just save my money for more local cons.

>>10049548
I wouldn't call the cosplays top notch, that's like only 5% at most, and that's primarily the East Coast cosplayers that can't afford to go to any other cons outside Boston and NYC. I think Dragon Con, NYCC, and SDCC are the big cons for cosplayer premieres for the rest of the country.

>>10050205
I would say there is a higher ratio of great quality or high profile cosplays at Katsucon than those other cons. You will definitely see a handful of bigger or batshit crazy cosplays at SDCC and Dragoncon (I'd add Blizzcon to that list too), but most cosplays will be average outside of the contests or those 3 or 4 showstoppers. Dragoncon is still the best place for genuinely enjoyable, clever, or off the wall costumes, whereas I think Katsucon is the best place for sheer quantity of well known community members in good cosplays. They're all good for different reasons.

>>10050359
Nayrt but I definitely see more costumes with detail at Katsu, the ones who spent months doing embroidery or higher tier tailoring. There’s always big stuff for sure but Katsu seems to be Sakizo-fucker con.

>>10050438
This is just my opinion, but Katsu cosplay skews toward women, and women are less likely to make huge power armor builds. Also the Gaylord is an absolutely terrible venue for costumes you can't move well in.

Going to my first Katsucon since 2009. Any tips for a ten year hiatus?

Who could be so fucking stupid they don't know about dozens of school shoots?
>Jkid
Oh.

>>10052972
Where’s this from? Any other useful information?

>>10053032
https://www.reddit.com/r/casualiama/comments/9xxt4j/i_am_christian_savage_former_chairman_of_katsucon/

Jkid was asking what sparked the decision to make the event a closed profile one and then showed his stupidity to the point that the staffer replied:

>Well I’m not a news outlet, but use your favorite search engine, should be easy to find. School violence should work.

>>10030952
you're making a big assumption that most of their attendance is local.

>>10041677

>while decent photographers are buried

Yeah you got that right I can vouch that EMCP is one of the best in the business despite people trying to slander his good name all around. He is actually a nice fellow in person and is willing to work with you and not the other way around. Highly recommend!

>>10053755
nice joke anon

>>10041714

>Blue Shell

How are they creepy in any way please explain? They seem mediocre at best and I didnt seem to have a problem or issue when shooting with them and Im a grill

British anon here, what good photographers would you all recommend that wouldn't give medicore photos?

>>10053775
Are you asian by any chance?

>>10053775
Heard biggest complaint about him is he likes to snipe and doesn't know how to talk around people so he'll start talking about sexual jokes or telling girls to spread their legs wider for the shot and lean over more so he can catch their some boobs

>>10053789
Where are you looking to shoot?

>>10053789
Dondolcephotography - for nice photos but beware the long turnaround time.
Lostdumpling - gorgeous photos and editing.
athel rogers - professional photographer. Famous for his color grading and aesthetic. Only 2 slots left
fxdandy - new photographer. His photos of mangoes are just top quality Definitely shoot with him before he gets better and up his price
mh photography - he specialize in sexy shoots
Chez photo - very expensive. But you get top quality photos back

>>10054001
Athel's a bitch, avoid him, unless you're Asian, then he'll bend over backward for you

>>10054034
Wrong. Athel works with Sam mill at least twice now and showcase her in his katsu ads. Why would she keep shooting with him if he’s a bitch

Anon sounds like a jealous uggo

>>10054079
Nayrt but replace Asian with attractive in that sentence

>>10054079

Athel isn't consistent with his work and him doing a good job for his one friend isn't changing his inconsistency or bad reviews.

Anon sounds like Athel

>>10054001

Good luck getting good photos out of Lost Dumplings if you don't have a huge following. It's well known that he doesn't give a shit unless you're cosfamous.

>>10054034
>>10054287
>feat. salty uggos who got their shoot request denied

>>10054001
mangoe is fxdandy's gf btw, so don't use them as a basis for his quality. his work is pretty average imo

>>10054322
I've worked with him twice before and his compositions are always really nice but color editing can be hit or miss. I wouldn't say he's top tier good but he's starting to get there and I've enjoyed working with him and would again in the future.

>>10054001
I have never shot with Felix but i don't like him constantly saying high photoshoot prices are good because they weed out the cosplayers who are not as good. pretty douchy thing to say.

>>10054322
this. check his tagged photos and you can see a huge change of quality when it comes to his gf or okcospi photos vs paid shoots

>>10053836

How did you know that? D:

>>10053947
Mainly at colossalcon but I'm also interested in katsucon, anime expo, youmacon and otakon

>>10054034
>isn't asian
>is a chubby tall black girl with a chubby hourglass figure
Welp, not shooting with him anytime soon. Sad thing is that I've been following his work for nearly a year now.
Sadly my follower count isn't even to its 1000 yet (mainly because I don't do that many shoots in general)

>>10054001
Why do most of these photographers have mainly Asian on their photography page!?! It would be nice to find a photographer who can shoot different kinds of people.

Now that I think about it, has anyone ever seen a photographer shoot an Indian person?

>>10054607
Fuck off poo

>>10054595
I wouldn’t say no for sure. If you’re lucky he might do a good job and you end up on his ads. He’s been called out for not shooting black folks

>>10054607
>>>photographers mainly shoot Asians
>>asking why no photographer shoot Indian
>didn’t realize Indians are Asians

>>10053775
One of my good friends recently asked us to use a different name to address her if he’s around because he’s been harassing her since 2015. And yes, before you ask, she’s Asian.

>>10054661
Don’t know your friend, but I remember when Yasha called him out and he had to change his name to Just Cosplay. Wish he can just go away

>>10054607
Are there even that many Indian cosplayers around? Nekonamicosplay could be an Indian, and AshB photographs her a lot.

>>10054719
>AshB
Please tell me you don't mean AsherBee.

>>10054745
Don’t know any AsherBed but AshB Images is a popular photographer specialized in photographing cosplayers of color.

>>10054782
Thanks for that. Asherbee is another wannabe photographer that goes to Katsucon a lot. If you've ever crossed her path you'd recognize her immediately. She went from scamming through subpar costume commissions to charging for "pro photography".

>>10054800

AshB is a black cosplayer who called out a bunch of photographers after Colossalcon for not shooting POC outside of Asians. Athel was on the list.

>>10054800
>Wannabe photographer
Breh what

>>10054782
Stop promoting yourself. You didn't shoot cosplayers of color until you yourself got called out, and then suddenly you're portfolio started focusing on POCs.

>>10054719
Nekonami is Indian, but some people have called her out for blackfacing in the past, thinking she was hispanic or something

>>10031462
Last year I did in fact absolutely have to pass through a metal detector gate to enter.

>>10055086
Wasn't that way for the 2018 con

>>10054001
>fxdandy
Average at worst, good at best. Gets the job done and turnaround isn't terrible. The really good pictures of Mangoe and Okicospi stem from mangoe being his girlfriend and Oki a mutual.

>>10054364
I’ve worked with him before too but the photos came out average ranging to bad and completely not like the results he puts out for mangoe or oki. He was nice enough so I wouldn’t object to shooting with him again though.

Fairly new to this and would like to book someone to shoot with. Thread has given me good suggestions on who I should look into, but who should I outright avoid?

>>10059090
Me. I have no photography experience and am just taking my camera to fuck around.

>>10059090
Any male photographer. Stick with female like Amie, Chez, Kay inoue, dancing squirrel, Alexandra Lee, sumiko, etc.

Most of the males are GWC or straight up pervs.

>>10064491
Whats up Alexandra, still trying to convert straight women to lesbians? Have you learned to keep your fucking hands off other women's pussies yet?

>>10054782
Popular that she is associated with Maki Hinds and her pedophile grooming ring they run together.

>>10064491

Kay Inoue and Sumiko take a long time to get anything back to you. Kay Inoue is more interested in Overwatch than clients. Good luck getting anything back from Sumiko except excuses.

>>10064515
You can't just say that without context (I do believe you but a "pedophile grooming gang" this is like some shit

>>10064734
I have dealt with Sumiko and... how do I say this, you are more right than you know. I mean for their rates they are unprofessional.

>>10064514
Imagine my shock

>>10064734
>>10064491

I have a few friends who have shot with kay inoue and would not shoot with her again. The photos are average at best and they get a creepy vibe from her.

>>10064514
Topkek
Is there some kind of story behind this?

>>10064767
>>10064771

Same person as before. Yep, I shot with both of them and had bad experiences with both. The creepy vibe is real with Kay too.

>>10064771
I’ve never gotten a creepy vibe from Kay Inoue and I’ve always loved her work but I agree her wait times are way too long and I’ve decided not to shoot with her again.

>>10064491
>>10064734
Thirding to avoid Sumiko like the plague. The one time I shot with them it wasn’t even with her, it was with her fiancé so you can’t even guarantee you’re shooting with a female. Photos took forever to get back and when I did they all had intense contrast editing and a fugly vignette on every photo, for a series that is primarily bright and colorful. -10/10 dont recommend.

>>10064811
I am
>>10064767
and yeah now that I looked up their photography page, I know EXACTLY what you mean. You know how you can like, taste thirst? They feel like a 17 year old boy thirst, I just didn't put a name to a face.

>>10064842
Which photographer are you talking about? Lesbian Alexandra?

>>10064922
>>10064514
>Dumping this much salt with no story

>>10064515
Just read her old social media shit. she constantly bragged about it in the open. Katsucon was her main hunting ground as she said "I love showing new girls the craft with hubby's help" whenever she posted her bondage shit.

>>10065006
AshB quit cosplay photography last year. she Is engaged. Not married. What are you smoking?

>>10065022
Dumbass they’re talking about maki roll

>>10064837
Sumiko has a history of cutting off contact and not delivering photos too. She's been banned from some cosplay photography groups because of this

>>10065416
>>10064837
Sumiko is very unstable and full of excuses. Overslept. Too depressed. Trigger doesn’t work. And you have to wait a year to get mediocre photos.

>>10065416
Yeah I had so much trouble getting my photos out of her and when I eventually did she hadn’t edited them at all except for maybe slapping a Lightroom filter on them. She also gave me every single damn shot she took so there was obviously no thought put into the editing work.
Oh and when she showed up late to our shoot she asked me to buy her breakfast for when she got there. Yeah no.

>>10065544
>>10065543
>>10065416
How the actual fuck do people like this even get booked?
Her work to begin with is garbage

>>10065561
in my case for Sumiko I just wanted some shots to prove I did a cosplay and wasn't looking to book any of the higher tiered photographers for the shoot. She responded to my lineup post and having heard rumors of her in the past I checked with more veteran cosplayer friends first and they all said she had cleaned up her act. Obviously they were wrong.

>>10065416
Adding onto this, my friend and I booked her for a shoot and we spent almost two hours waiting for her, going back and forth on messenger only to have her say that she can’t make it because of car trouble. Luckily we didn’t pay her yet and we had a mutual offer to shoot us quickly; long story short, they’re our friend now and we got some pretty decent work.

>>10065561
Same way any other scam photographer or cosplay commissioner stays in, they have their pool of trusted yes people defending them no matter how bad they burn others with no delivery, sexual harassment, outright lying, and shit.

I've been holding off on posting my photog ad
Should I do it now?

There goes Martin Wong starting drama already. How about we boycot his ass?

>>10066956
Fuck his over rated ass

>>10066956
Had to go look up what he's done now.

>Do sex workers give friends and family discounts?

Yikes. I get where he was going in comparison to his photography but given who he's talking about it's really distasteful to have tacked on the 'family' bit.

>>10066956
He “apologized” and everyone is back to sucking his dick. Not even one person is calling him out for the fake apology

>>10067516
because they want photoshoots with him. I barely know the guy but it takes one look at his twitter to tell that if you're female and relatively good looking he'll probably give you a deal/shoot for free. No one wants to rock the boat on that.

>>10065416
I have had too many friends burnt by Sumiko. I am friends with them but I think she needs to quit because she can't be professional, and I mean by the very very low standards of cosplay photography (Ie return 200+ USD photoshoots in less than 2 months which isn't a hard thing, it isn't like people are asking for an amazing odyssey

>>10065544
Ok I know you in reality I remember you telling me this and I was stunned.Its a small world but yeah, after that I just feel everyone needs to run her out of this industry.

For those people that are going to Katsucon (prettymuch just girls), I wish you good luck on avoiding lawrence brenner, run the fuck away.

>>10068169

Who is Lawrence Brenner? I noticed him consistently in my Instagram notifications recently.

>>10068316
He’s this guy that seems to be at every con. He’s creepy to girls and says he’s a photographer but he’s pretty shitty. And recently he’s been stealing other photographers pictures. OH and he says he used to date yaya Han and all this other bullshit. This dude cray

>>10068169
Lawrence Brenner barely hits Katsucon, you're better off worried about UV Photography/Nathan Stallworth and EMCP/EUgene Manning

>>10068453
Id be surprised to see UV show his face at any con nowadays, I wonder if anyone even tries to book him anymore

>>10068489
I saw him at anime NYC and my group just ran. I’m a tolerant person, I’m pretty polite but I can’t deal with him.he’s too much.

>>10068453
What’s wrong with Nathan Stallworth? I was looking up the photographers and saw some of my friends know him.

>>10068509
Guys a perv, looking at any excuse to shoot boudoir and get in friendly. then he'll try to get you drunk at the after parties so he can drug and fuck you, but if you're into that, have fun.

I would recommend that everyone avoid Zero Xpertise (George) for photography.
He's pretty creepy and SUPER unprofessional. He was a mess at Holiday Matsuri. Wouldn't stop complaining about all the people who canceled their shoots on him. Tried to get me to go to his room for a boudoir shoot. No thanks, stay away.

Why the fuck does every photog seem to be some sort of creepy rapist?

So now that ghosting has been outlawed, how much will it effect the general overcrowding? Can we go back to pre-2012 days? Will getting rid of ghosters even make a noticeable dent on the attendance?

>>10069869

shitty dudes would rather drop 4k on camera equipment than try and work on their shit personalities in order to get laid

>>10069933

probably not, but the badge line will be a whole new level of incompetent nightmare

>>10069965
>shitty dudes would rather drop 4k on camera equipment than try and work on their shit personalities in order to get laid
It works for Terry Richardson...

>>10069869
Why does every cosplayer seem to be some sort of attention hungry thot?

>>10066956
Really? That was a funny joke, can we please take the stick out of our collective asses and let a joke be a joke?

>>10070038
>This sad bait

>>10069971
Got me there

OT, but does anyone know if masquerade entries are first come first serve or if they select entries after the deadline?

>>10059090
Avoid Steve Messner/Rex Roller, dud'es horrible, offering free shoots, and will try to beg for a date. Look at his Facebook profile and you'll see he has tons of anger issues and is pissed about trying to date a cosplay waifu

>>10069971
Did cosplay ever revolve around something other than attention?

>>10070349
>Did cosplay ever revolve around something other than attention?

Yes. Before social media.

>>10070349
>Did cosplay ever revolve around something other than attention?
No. Cosplay by its very nature is an attention grabbing hobby whether that's your intention or not. It's like swimming and exercise. If you go out swimming, you're getting some exercise whether that's your original intention or not.

How fast does the Katsucon prereg line go by? Was thinking of picking it up Thursday night.

>>10070329
also wondering this

>>10072710
slow as fuck, multiple hours on thursday

>>10072710
Avoid and show up midday Friday instead.

>>10072710
Pretty fast, like an hour wait at most. Once the line moves, it goes by quickly.

What's the weather usually like at Katsu? Is it just cold or is it typically snowy/rainy. Debating what outerwear to bring and whether to bring an umbrella.

>>10073801
Historically it's usually freezing cold outside. I think last year was the first time in a long time that it was warm enough to walk around outside. But it's pretty warm inside the hotel, so you might need to check your coat in.

>>10073801
Last two years were very warm. Almost swimsuit/t-shirt weather. I suspect it’ll be the same this year because of global warming.

>>10073801
It's been warm and hot the past 3 years now, well not always, but the coldest was like 60 degrees last year on Saturday. Otherwise the past few years people walked outside with tshirts without issue.

>>10073822
>>10073826
>>10073859
Thanks so much! We're taking Uber in each day but I wasn't sure whether it'd be worth bringing a heavy coat just in case we went out to eat at some point during the day.

>>10069635
Also recommend everyone avoid Felix Wong Photos. Seen some screen caps being passed around this past weekend about him being a major creep. He’s always been an ok guy to me but I’m not taking chances.

>>10073822
Last year it snowed. Three years ago there was an ice storm.
Two years ago it was almost summer weather.

>>10073900
Not trying to say that what you're saying isn't true, but I've had nothing but good experiences working with him so I'm just putting in my 2 cents to say he's been a good guy so far in the 4 or so years I've seen him around at cons.

>>10073911
Yeah it might have been two years ago. My sense of time is fucked up, man.

>>10073911
>>10074037
Last year was also very warm. Don’t remember snow, but it rained quite a bit. Where we left around 6 there were quite a lot of people shooting outside.

So what we’re saying is. Pack for warm weather

>>10073900
Oh no, he seemed like a really nice guy every time I've spoken and DM'd him.

>>10074304
Guess he’s just a fake. I have yet to meet a male “cosplay photographer” who’s not using the hobby to get into the pants of naive cosplayers or to collect fap materials.

>>10073900
Should I search the Facebook or google, because it would explain why he magically quit

>>10074537
If you find out spill deets anon-chan
>Quit
Doesn't he still shoot?

Just came back from mag and had an absolute blast hopping from room to room being drunk as fuck, meeting a hell of a lot of new people, playing games all day and going to concerts/the raves.
How similar to Katsu is Mag?

>>10074537
>>10074554
He hasn’t been the same since his muse Sarah Fong ditched him for John Jiao a few years back.

Don’t know what his latest drama is. You don’t want to shoot with him anyway. He’s very picky when he does shoot but the quality is just not there in recent years

>>10074555
Shorter, less vidya and hours of operation, more cosplay and merch. You'll still be able to wander halls for room parties but expect increased immaturity due to the younger audience.

Noob questions but how's the maid cafe and are there any UFO catchers there? I saw where a merchant brought some a previous year but I don't know if they're a staple that comes every year.

>>10074555
Not too similar. More cosplay. Way more crowds. Gazebo will be impossible to walk thorough due to cosplayers and photographers hogging the space,

>>10074779
Gazebo is blocked off for shoots the past 2, maybe 3 years now.

>>10074555
Less shitty music, more shitty cosplayers.

>>10074555
>>10074919
Also more top tier cosplayers. MAGfest cosplays were average at best. People save their big debuts for katsu.

>>10075190
To be fair gamers are impressed by the most cosplays. A big debute is wasted on MAG fest.

>>10074139
I definitely remember snow, because I had to drive through it for the first time. It may have gotten warmer later (which I also kind of remember), but the takeaway should be:
Katsu weather is highly variable. Pack so that you won't be too uncomfortable in any likely circumstance.

>>10074139
Can confirm.

Last year's Katsucon had unusually warm weather. It was practically spring during the winter.

New thread >>10079035