/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10026815
I guess I can appreciate that it isn't shooped to plastic skin town and back, but I'm sure this is not shot in the most flattering light nor angle.

>>10026826

Exactly my thoughts. He also is a foot fetishist it seems from his gallery... What I don't get is, how the fuck does he convince these girls to do this shit? Does he pay them? Ask? I can't imagine that conversation

"hey, stick your feet in this suspicious white goo I made and let me take pics of it please"

>>10026815
>be unfit fatass
>have layers of cellulite around every inch of your body
>lacks self-awareness to the extent that you have the absolute GALL to cosplay characters with revealing costumes
>pay poor photographer to take pictures of your disgusting frame
>photo accurately reflects how disgusting you are
>"REEE IT'S THE PHOTOGRAPHERS' FAULT!!"
Piss off, landwhale

>>10026872

Look through the photographers gallery you uncultured swine, This isn't about just about the photographer.. it's also the fact he isn't doing the poor girl any favours for angles or lighting to not make her look as bad.

>>10026872
Except that's a terrible photo. Look at that. You have no taste or knowledge or composition if you think that'd be a good photo of an attractive person.

>>10026872
OP girl honestly doesn't even look that fat. Its just standard cellulite + not good lighting.

>>10026843
>how the fuck does he convince these girls to do this shit?
Its just some pictures. They aren't being asked to to clear a mine field or something.

>>10026916

How would you feel if some no-name creeper ass dude came up to you said "Hey, step in this white stuff while I take close-ups of your feet?" Unless he's paying them, I can't imagine people being very willing.

>>10026924
You know "no" is a valid response, right? Do you really think Everage just cold approaches and scores a hit every single time? I also wouldn't call him a no-name since he's been doing this for close to a decade now.
>Unless he's paying them, I can't imagine people being very willing
Maybe, just maybe, other people are more outgoing and adventurous than you. Even if he does pay them, who the fuck cares? It's not you getting photographed and it's not your money.

>>10026931
I'm a professional fetish model, have been for years, not into cosplay though and these photos and models are equally awful and trashy. I guess gross amateurs are attracted to each other and can fulfill their needs through each other and they're not really hurting anyone (except my eyes)

There's a clear lack of taste and I've come across that in my work, pervy men who's portfolios are full of badly lit, trashy """"models"""" in bad lingerie who clearly don't know how to pose or look good for a photo but the photographer doesn't care as long as her tits are out. They're trying to emulate cheap porn, they have no discerning eye or creative artistry, it's just about what makes their dick twitch. It saddens me that girls have such low self esteem that they wanna take their clothes off for random creeps for validation when they can get paid for it, no matter how ugly you are lol there'll be someone desperate enough. It's gotten worse with the rise of instagram too, every thot (even the pretty ones!!) want ~professional~ shots done so they'll find whatever beta with a DSLR is willing. It's made my business suffer a little but thankfully, people know that if you want quality and professionalism, you get what you pay for.

>>10026815
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>>10026939
>Fetish model
>Calling anybody else trashy
Surely you don't genuinely believe that what you're doing is in any way "art", right? You're literally taking pictures for people to get off to. It makes perfect sense that photographers in that business would also go for things that make their dick twitch because that's essentially the goal.
Furthermore, if you're a pro, why do you feel the need to shit on obvious amateurs? This guy and his models are running on deviantart accounts and little else. There's hardly any money to be made if at all. It's two hacks coming together to make something hacky because they can.
I'm a professional automotive technician. If I felt the need to criticize every backyard DIYer I came across on the internet I'd have carpal tunnel in a week and those are people who actually have the ability to harm others. A shitty cosplay photographer isn't hurting anybody at all except maybe his own reputation.

>>10026815
He will deliberately take photos in an upwards angle to emphasize his fat fetish, which makes otherwise attractive cosplayers look unflattering.

>>10026939
>I guess gross amateurs are attracted to each other and can fulfill their needs
Damn!

>>10026956
Dude you're literally just parroting what I was trying to say. I never claimed my work is high art or nothing of the sort, and the only way I'm "better" than these girls is that I'm clever enough to capitalise off my sluttiness. it just saddens me to see girls devaluing themselves and giving it away for free. They're not really hurting anyone, but as I said, the popularization and accessibility of amateur porn and the rise of the internet has affected those in the business for longer. but that's the way it works, I'm not complaining. Just putting forward my opinion/experiences as someone who has worked in the industry.

To put it in terms you might relate to, it's like if the automotive industry suddenly became so overrun with hobbyists who are unable to see the difference between their shoddy work and professional quality that it saturated the market and appealed to a blinded audience. I'm sure you would have something to say if that was the case. Don't subreddits like /shittycarmods and such exist? How do expect people who arent self aware enough to recognise their own lack of skill to improve if you don't let them know?

>>10026965
>How do expect people who arent self aware enough to recognise their own lack of skill to improve if you don't let them know?
Because in most cases they don't want to improve. We're both talking about hobbyists.
You and I need to improve because there's money on the line. More skill means more money but when money isn't a factor, there isn't much drive to improve quickly or at all. That's why four of my own cars and my motorcycle are sitting unfinished in a shop 15 miles away and have been for years. I'm not getting paid to work on them so there's no rush. I know the guy who's in charge of deadlines and he's full of shit.
You're also dealing with the mentality nurtured by a generation of permissive parents that you and you alone know how best to do the thing and all outside criticism, no matter how constructive, is just people being butthurt that they can't actually do the thing like you can.
Unless the artist in question is actively seeking advice and has a history of acting on said advice, all you're doing is wasting keystrokes.

>>10026979
>wasting keystrokes
>writing paragraphs about a topic that isn't even relevant to the board

go back to /o/ m8, at least I was offering topical discussion. dunno if it's anything like the auto industry, but particularly in creative ones, it's overrun with lowered standards and employers of freelancer being led to think that you can pay little or nothing at all due to crappy content being so readily available. I don't think it's as bad as you say to aspire to better your field and craft, be it creative or not, hobbyist or pro, you have an influence. complacency is a killer.

>>10026992
>I don't think it's as bad as you say to aspire to better your field and craft, be it creative or not, hobbyist or pro, you have an influence. complacency is a killer.
Then by all means, go tell Everage he's a shit photog and how he can get good. I'm sure he'll appreciate it.

>>10026843
I mean he just asks them. Probably strikes a convo with them too about their cosplay, give them compliments and really focus on what they are saying.... just like in any conversation.

If they say no then he leaves. Simple as that

>>10027006
No thanks, would rather help these clueless costhots make a business for themselves out of stomping in weird goo in skimpy costumes but I think the world has enough of that already.

Sorry I don't have a personal vendetta, I was just trying to answer OP's question and offer some perspective from behind the lens as many people in this thread seem confused. But I suppose thats to be expected from you virgins who are secretly jealous you don't have the misguided courage of this guy. I hope yall at least pay for your porn whilst you shit on the women providing the service.

>>10026815
>How can you photograph this and be okay with yourself
gotta pay the bills

>>10027058
Fair point only this photographer does mostly if not all free shoots

>>10026924
>How would you feel
i'd just say no. Its just not crazy to think some would say yes.

You cosplayers run around flashing your bare asscheeks to the world in your 2B costumes yet you get offended when someone wants a pic of your feet?

Why is feet worse than tits and ass?

>>10027233
feet is easier to get a creepshot of than tits and ass. its pretty easy to figure out if a photographer is taking upskirts, not so easy to figure out theyre taking foot shots

>>10027308
>not so easy to figure out theyre taking foot shots
Gonna take a guess its the person whose camera is aimed at people's feet.

As a photographer, I don't take these shots, unless the cosplayer themselves ask. it's a unflattering photo and angle. That said, I'd describe this photographer more as a GWC.

truly a master of the art

>>10027368
why

>>10026815
Jesus christ, I met this guy in person when I was a teenager. He was a friend of a friend of mine, and even back then was asking underage girls to do fetish shoots with him by telling them it was "fun" or "artsy" or some shit. I'm glad I never got involved with him.

>>10026939

oh whatever you fat whore, the only difference between Queefa in the OP and yourself is photoshop. Prove me wrong.

>>10026939

You sound butthurt because people are getting their feet pics for free instead of paying you

>>10026815
>>10026843
>>10027368
This dude isn't a cos photog lol, he's a known foot fetishist with a DSLR who preys on young naive girls who don't see a problem when he suggests poses such as "take off your shoes and pretend to be stuck in glue" or "let me handcuff you" because they're just excited to have their photos taken by a self proclaimed "professional cosplay photographer". Obviously content quality isn't his priority.

>>10027368
that ass got a a point though
two of them

>>10027655
>who don't see a problem
what is the problem?

>>10027655
>>10027368

You can't tell me someone like the pic above didn't know what was happening when dude asked her to take off her shoes and stick her feet in front of the camera. I'm the most gullible girl ever and even I would never fall for that shit.

"Preys on" is a harsh word, if someone is retarded enough to think she's getting photographed for "free" and agrees to start stepping barefoot in goo, they don't have a right to say "hey preyed on me!!!" later to save face when she ends up in his fapping gallery

Honestly any of you calling OP's pic fat is an absolute troglodyte. Loads of women have cellulite there especially taken from such a bad angle. Besides she doesn't even look remotely fat, come on. I'm on the skinny side and i still have cottage cheese ass and cottage cheese thighs.

Sage for blogposting but some of you need to stop being so delusional

>>10026815
this isn't a photographer. anyone can replicate these pix with a smartphone , without any brain cells, in full auto mode.

for comparison, here is a picture, made by my ~17 yo cousin ,with a 300 dollar camera, after I literally showed him, how to use it.

>>10027368
>on the dirty convention floor in front of god and everyone else

stop being close minded and appreciate the artistic merit

>>10028351
>I still have cottage cheese ass and cottage cheese thighs
is that what they taste like hahah
just wondering of course haha

>>10028351
tl;dr waaaah waaaah my fee fees are hwurt. QQ

>>10028485
Kek

>>10026979
This ain't Hot Rod Magazine, pal.

>>10028429
your 17 year old cousin sucks at taking pictures.

>>10028611
>trying so hard to act like one of the mean girls™ to fit in
Cringy

>>10027368
Feet people are truly the oddest race

>>10026872
agreed why are white landwhales so fucking gag inducing holy shit. the white skin was not made to be this pale

>>10028848
That qualifies as trying? I see why your not an engineer.

>>10029008
what are you even trying to say?

>>10028485
my thoughts lel

>>10028518
>toecuffs

why

>>10028429
I feel dizzy just looking at that picture.
I'm not sure what you mean though. You can use a smartphone camera and be a photographer. Literally any professional photography will tell you that the equipment doesn't mean much.
You sound like someone who thinks better camera = better pictures.

>>10026815
How do that ass brap?

>>10028518
What gets me with this is that he's so incompetent that it's not the feet or even the face that are in focus, but the shins.

>>10028851
The cringelords you see on the internet are a vocal minority. Most of us just want to be normal.

>>10026872
Pretty much this.

>>10029175
So many people spout that "just use what you have" shit but no one decent actually uses a smartphone as their main device.

>>10030573
Because decent people prefer a better device that they can configure more and have a smoother experience.
The point is that a professional with a smartphone camera will be able to take better pictures than an amateur with a professional camera. Skill > equipment.

>>10026939
>There's a clear lack of taste
He can't get it up. So clearly can't have a taste.

>>10027233
>Why is feet worse than tits and ass?
We ask permission to take photos of their tits and ass. We never ask for feet so they get mad.

.>>10028485
Making mother proud!


>>10028429
real pros use full auto on their cameras!

>>10027655
>young naive girls who don't see
He is a photographer. Young naive girls is his brand.

>>10030593

There was a cosplay photographer that did some photos on his cellphone, but I forgot who they were now, but saw the photos on Instagram. I liked how they showed the before and after. The before showed a weird aspect ratio due to the phone's sensor and the after was it clean up and processed to fit their standard aspect ratio and Photoshopping of effects. Liked that they were transparent with what was changed.

>>10030565
this girl oesnt seem fat but ok anon lets judge someone who weve never talked to b4 uwu

>>10026815

That picture was taken at the Irish famine memorial.

Fun little trivia nugget.

>>10039399
(You)

>>10026843
>>10027655
as someone who had this happen to them in their first few years of cosplaying I had no idea what his deal was then. It was the first time I had ever seen him.

The way he acted was friendly but he did pressure me to take off my socks after I already took off my shoes grudgingly. It was really weird and I was a naive 17 year old

I would say looking back it seems a little predatory

>>10027862
You don't see a problem with tricking underage girls into posing for fetish photos for him to upload to foot fetish websites?

>>10028069
I'm sure some people were aware, but he very clearly targetted very young girls who didn't understand what his angle was. Preying on is literally the perfect word for the situation - he exploits the naivety of people new to the community and maybe not aware enough to recognize that taking your shoes off isn't just for cute poses.

>>10040629
Yeah I'm in the same boat. I definitely did shoots with him when I was like 13 and just into the scene. Maybe kids now are more aware but I was definitely too sheltered to realize there was anything sexual going on.

>>10031148
You can't just tease me like this and not post a name you little fucknut.

>>10040711
>You don't see a problem with tricking underage girls into posing for fetish photos for him to upload to foot fetish websites?
no, explain the issue.

>>10030593
I assume you love the Good Photographer Bad Camera youtube metaseries (its the best imho)

>>10040711
>You don't see a problem with tricking underage girls into posing for fetish photos for him to upload to foot fetish websites?

Deviantart isn't a foot fetish website.

>>10041332

It is if you do it right.

It's this episode again

>>10040843
It’s like someone tricking you into posing with your pecs on display and then posting you to lactation kink group. It’s giving other people the impression you are into a fetish that you are not. A rude and shitty thing to do.

>>10041531
You somehow managed to make analogy worse than food ones

>>10041531
>and then posting you to lactation kink group
...what
That doesn't even make sense, but either way, its not tricking anyone. I have literally no idea what people do with pictures taken of me. Why should I care? Unless you specifically tell someone you are using the pictures for one thing, and you use it for another. Otherwise, I've never asked or care what someone uses a picture of me for.

>>10041916
When someone takes a picture of you, there's an unspoken rule that they're not going to use it in ways that go against your 'image/brand'. Of course, what that entails is very vague, and your brain naturally doesn't run through all the possibilities of failure. Same reason why people fuck up their 3 genie wishes. When you wish for your wife to love you her entire life, is it tricking you if the genie just kills your SO right away? I find that taking advantage of someone's lack of oversight is a form of trickery.

I digress. Personally, I'm jaded enough by all these 4chan years to not care about what people do with my pictures. However, I can 100% see why a young girl might. Girls are coerced by society to cherish their reputation after all. A girl who doesn't care about her reputation becomes an easy target to blame when she encounters incidents that are actually serious. I don't think these girls are in the wrong when they feel anxious after discovering that they got posted to a foot fetish group. Rather, the wrong is on the photog who violated the societal guideline of 'do not involve non-consenting randos with your weird kinks'.

>>10027368
ass

>>10042002
>there's an unspoken rule that they're not going to use it in ways that go against your 'image/brand'.
So, you don't tell people what you want, you just magically expect them to know what you are and aren't ok?
You must have an interesting life.

>Same reason why people fuck up their 3 genie wishes.
anon... genie wishes aren't real.

> an easy target to blame when she encounters incidents that are actually serious.
What is serious about this?

There is no evidence of Everage posting photots to foot fetish groups or websites.

He posts them to Deviantart, if other people put them in fetish groups thats not his fault.

>>10042002
Incorrect: the rule is, they took the picture, they own that image, and they can do what they want with it. I'm not saying it's fair or good, but it's what you should expect.

>>10042282
>they took the picture, they own that image, and they can do what they want with it.

if you took a picture of someone (= they are not just in the background, they are the focus of the picture) and they didn't want to, it's illegal, the picture is not yours nor can you do what you want with it. You can get sued in many countries

>>10042303
>...it's illegal
Do you have some Code to back that up, or is it just your "common sense"? In public space in the US, it's not generally not against the codes unless the photos are used for financial gain

>>10042002
>Rather, the wrong is on the photog who violated the societal guideline of 'do not involve non-consenting randos with your weird kinks'.

Pretty much this. He 100% has glue/handcuff/foot fetishes and has said as much himself more recently but involving people who have no idea is messed

>>10026843
She would be pretty cute with a decent photog wtf

>>10040843
Involving someone in a sexual fetish without their knowledge/consent is shitty.

>>10042303
>>10042660

The photographer owns the copyright to the photo. The subject of the photo doesn't own the copyright, but they do have publicity rights. The subject cannot do anything with the photo without the photographer's permission, since even posting it online is a copyright issue. However any photographer that prevents you from posting the photo even on your own social media sites are assholes and should be blacklisted (personal opinion).

The photographer meanwhile can't do anything in a commercial way with the photo of identifiable subjects without the permission of the subjects, aside from editorial use.

Also each state has their own laws on publicity rights, as do countries, and the laws that are in effect are where the photo was taken, not where the photographer or subject lives..

Cant beleive how naive people are
Do you REALLY not know foot fetish exists by the time you are SEVENTEEN?

>>10042794
That’s why he mostly chooses girls under 17 lol

>>10026815
Fixed

>>10042794
this 100%
If you grew up in an environment completely devoid of computers and books, I would understand

but how do you reach age 13 or whatever puberty age without learning about common/basic fetishes thru books or the internet or movies etc.

>>10042794
>Do you REALLY not know foot fetish exists by the time you are SEVENTEEN?
not everyone spent 10 hours a day on the internet exposing themselves to weird fetishes as a 15 year old.

>>10043077
KEK absolutely based

>>10043267
>but how do you reach age 13 or whatever puberty age without learning about common/basic fetishes thru books or the internet or movies etc.
Half of 13 year olds aren't even 100% on how babies are made let-alone that people like to jerk off to feet.

>>10043267
I didn't discover feet people till I was 19 and I had hardcore JAV and hentai shit when I was a kid. feet are like the strange fetish tbf,.

>>10028729
MAMBO MAN

>>10029015
Can't have her toes running away now

The photoshopping triggers me. I'm triggered!

>>10039654
That's... tasteless af.
Seppos are disgusting.

>>10045145
Looks like he didn't know well enough that he was supposed to shoot with the sun in front of her instead of in back of her so he tried to up the exposure in post to compensate.

Why is it okay for a photographer to pay a woman to undress for him, but if I do it, it's "illegal" and i'm a "sex offender"

Why do women in cosplay always feel like the slutty things they do aren't their own damn fault? Take some responsibility, if a photographer looks creepy don't say yes. Look at the photos after they are done and if you don't like them you tell the probably 50 year old man to not post them.

If you accept you are doing these kinds of photos then don't be surprised at the audience you will attract. If you're not comfortable with that audience don't do those kinds of pics. You'll never be Jessica Nigress so don't even try.

>>10045980
So you're supposed to not judge people by their looks, and give guys a chance, but not talk to people who look "creepy"? And if someone's a creep anyway, you really think politely asking them to delete the photos or not post them is going to work?
Women choosing to wear cosplays that make them feel good, and yeah, possibly sexy doesn't make them a slut, and doesn't excuse anything that's done to them. "Their own damn fault" this sounds like a line by a fucking rapist

>>10045985
>Wears clevage revealing cosplay
"Why are all these men staring at me, Oni-chan?"
>Rides their skirt up and asks the beta Tog to take a pic of their arse
"Oni-chan, why do these creepy men keep objectifying me?"
>Horny men after seeing this women show off her bare arse online on purpose and with full consent on her own instagram start approching her.
"B-but oni-chan i'm not doing anything to make myself look approchable. I just want my privacy."
>despite all of this, wears skimpy cosplays and takes revealing photos because it "feels good"

Speaking as a self proclaimed cos-thot who's been around the block a few times. You girls really need to grow up.
If you want to be a thot just be one. If you genuinely are uncomfortable with that kind of attention do less revealing cosplays. It's not like your only options are a bikini or a burka. If you have the actual talent make a good cosplay you don't need to rely on skimpy clothes. If you want to rely solely on your body because it "feels good" then that's on you. Even if you are wearing skimpy shit most people won't approch you because most cosplay men are beta af. The only ones who try shit are the 50 year old fuckers who are obvious creeps. You learn to avoid them and stick with your friends so no one gets grabby and i have to taze them.

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>>10026815

>>10028853
If that's pale to you then I'm fucked

>>10028853
Her skin colour is the least of her problems. She really needs to hit the gym.

>>10046052
To be fair, seeing a sexy photo of someone on a public social media site isn't really an open invite to approach them, that idea is ridiculous. But I agree with the other stuff.

Tom Danger Savage aka Everage studios is a perv. He has ignored constant pleas from his friends to stop shooting fetish themes at conventions/in public. (what you do in private time is your own thing but to do it in public....)

He consistently tries to justify his grooming of foot fetish girls with the guise of "I dont force them to do anything I just ask."

A lot of girls in the Toronto cosplay community are desperate to get famous and he will shoot them for free. That's why girls go to him. If you notice he never has models stay with him for more than a couple years at a time, the always move onto better photographers and just faze him out.

>>10026815
How does this (her legs) happen to someone who is not hugely fat?

>>10042703
What? Do you reveal every part of your psyche to everyone you meet to avoid taking advantage of them in some way? Your post reveals dangerous thinking.

>>10048587
Many vein diseases are genetic; cellulite is more a skin problem than a fat problem; ignorant people tend to attribute such things to weight.

>>10048587
It's the majority of women who have cellulite, not the opposite.

>>10048587
BMI 16.5 here, still have cellulite (less than that girl, though). It has not much to do with being fat

>>10045341
Sure, but if you shoot with the sun in her face, she will be squinting. The best thing to do here is either A) not shoot at high noon, or B) have something to block the sun, like a reflector or umbrella.

>>10045341
that's beethy photography you pleb. he's a photography genius/wizard and does this often. her face does admittedly look over shopped here.

>>10048587
cellulite is a secondary sex characteristic, it’s how the female body stores fat naturally. any girl without toned legs will have it

>>10053489
I hope you're being sarcastic. Look how blown out her skin is wherever there's sunlight touching it.

>>10026815

I would still lick her anus and bury my face in her cunt.

>>10027655
Namefag get off my board!

>>10041916
this. Why would i care if what anyone uses pictures of me for? isn't that the point of cosplay anyway? I like people taking pictures of me, i don't even care if they jerk to it.

>>10053623
>I like people taking pictures of me, i don't even care if they jerk to it.
Care to share any images? I could use a good fap!

>>10040711
Good to see you still around Voldie. Haven't seen you since you broke up with that chink years ago. Makes me miss the old names of this board. Hope you're doing ok.

>>10026880
Novice cosplayers with no self-awareness hire novice photographers with no self-awareness. Big shock.

>>10028729
68!

>>10028853
hol up
*gives you kfc*
we aight now?

>>10026939
>being proud of being a pictographic whore
>it's just about what makes their dick twitch

Whod'a thunk?
You think you're rembrandt or some shit? You're as easily replaceable as a pornhub video.

>>10030573
There are a vast array of situations where you won't get anything good with bad equipment. Smartphone cameras have gotten better in the last couple of years though.

>>10026815
Bit o' photoshop should fix that.

>>10069325
It would ruin his fap material.

>>10053623
This is far, far from a typical cosplayers response. Don't assume your weird opinions speak for the community.

>>10026815
Adult women are so hideous.

Little girls dont have any cellulite on them. Perfect skin.