/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Dumping some photos

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>>10019841
Maybe they're just unflattering photos but these literally look costume-tier. Like the pricier costumes you'd find at Party City or whatever.

>>10019841
This is not a cute dress, the appliques look really cheap and the bows should have been made out of the same velvet as the lace up detail.

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>>10019849
End of dump. The fact they put Honey Cake on display + made a post card with it gives hope.

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>>10019848
>raschel lace

>>10019851
Agreed.

>>10019851
Imagine being so dumb you can’t tell apart different quality lace and shouting „Raschel lace!“ every time you see this lace design.
You do realize there is such a thing like high quality, thick and soft, raschel lace that is being used in bridal dresses all the time?

>>10019853
Just because it's ~thick~ and ~soft~ doesn't mean that it doesn't look tacky and cheap as hell.

>>10019861
this

>>10019851
>complaining about pretty nice looking raschel lace
>not this godawful fur
>>10019853
This

>>10019861
It only looks tacky to you, because you‘ve been conditioning yourself to „looks like raschel lace, raschel lace bad“.
There are so many lolitas who don’t know shit about quality materials, so they just spout the stuff they learned when they got into lolita.

>>10019841
Damn, I thought this was the Prima donna collab that was lost to time...

Dang, definitely wish I was in Tokyo right now to see this in person, this looks pretty cool. Although I suspect we’re not seeing even half the stuff that’s on display. There’s apparently like a ton of posters and postcards on the walls, plus whatever is in the background of >>10019841 could be a seperate shop or part of the museum. Then there’s a bunch of dresses in the background of >>10019848 and then none of them are the same dresses in >>10019850, it’s hard to tell if it’s the same wall or a different one or just one really long wall. Who knows how many dresses are actually up there that this person couldn’t get away with photographing.

Looks like whoever took the photographs zoomed in on the runway dresses. Makes a lot of sense, these are versions of dresses you normally wouldn’t see up close, even if you attended the tea parties you’d generally still be viewing the dress at a distance.

I wouldn’t really worry about the materials — since these are the runway versions, I wouldn’t be surprised if they chose certain items because they knew it would look good on the runway as their top priority. It wouldn’t be the first time they use different materials for the regular release (although to be honest I’m still really salty Castle Mirage does not actually come in ouji style).

Nice to see that candy dress in >>10019850 though, that’s a throwback to like 2006. I would rather be looking at the runway Memorial Cake, I wonder if that also made it into the Museum or they decided it wasn’t relevant anymore? I think in general I would have loved to see even older dresses with their older label, but maybe they don’t even have those around anymore.

>>10019851
I think it looks fine on
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>>10019848
but there's too many different kinds on >>10019840
It's a clusterfuck.

>>10019851
Look like those toilet roll cover dolls

>>10019839
Thinking about going there tomorrow, idk how crowded it will be though. I personally miss the pastel vomit era of 2010-2012

99% of it looks like pricy costumes. God I hate OTT

these pictures are making me feel ok about not going. not interested in 9/10 of these

>>10019848
The fabric on this is gorgeous, I hope they use it in something that's more toned down.

>>10019880
>personally miss the pastel vomit era of 2010-2012
I really agree with you there. These pictures don't even feel like lolita to me. It's kind of depressing. Maybe I'm just being a salty, nostalgic oldfag, but this just doesn't give me the same feelings as the lolita fashion I know and love.

>>10019850
Depending on how much of honeycake they re-released (if it happened) I'd be willing to spend up to $1000 on it. I'd get 2 colorways for sure. And the bag and accessories if the were available

>>10019896
There is a whole row of non-OTT stuff with iconic dresses.

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>>10019843
This is beautiful

>>10019901
Did you not see the picture with SC and honey cake

>>10019909
>Fruits Parlor OP in mint
My heart

>>10019908
I considered getting this bag, but the only dress it would’ve fit was my Cinema Doll in lav. Glad to see it’s not fitting after all.

>>10019849
Aw, I don't wear sweet, but this dress always has a place in my heart.

>>10019909
>fruits parlor
now that’s what i’m talkin about!

>>10019906
Ah yes thank you,it's already better!
I'm happy to see they incorporated prints from earlier years as well

>>10019936
I hate ott but that fluffy dress with the cage... it’s so angelic (pun not intended)

>>10019839
>the future
Anon, the name of this event is Angelic Pretty MUSEUM. These are all _past_ fashion show and archive pieces

>>10019994
I think they meant the museum, not new releases

Whoever is finding and dumping all the new images, thank you so much for your hard work.


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>all that raw burando fabric

Holy shit. This is my younger self's dream.

Man I just really hate OTT

>>10020002
Same. It's too much and looks tacky, if anyone wore this to an event I'd probably laugh. Having said that, I don't know whether these are concept pieces or just to showcase the talent of the designers, so I'm not mad about it.

>>10020008
These OTT pieces were never supposed to be worn as an outfit. They are supposed to be fun for the designers, o go all out and see what they can do. The customers of these dresses buy them as collector‘s pieces, to showcase them and maybe do one photoshoot.

dump curiosity of aoki1i1i on instagram

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>>10020036
/dump

>>10019861
>tacky and cheap
This fucking tired ass meme. No one here has any other descriptors.

>>10020037
my first brand print and a pony bag to boot. So nostalgic, i love AP

>>10020034
AP better rerelease this too

Kind of surprised to not see a single true old school dress though. I would have loved to see the full evolution. But I wonder if that's because they feel that they really defined the brand in the print era. I feel like if Baby had a museum they would totally put a lot of old school in there.

>>10020023
Ah right, that makes more sense. I figured they were more sort of concepts rather than wearable outfits.
The honey cake coord is cute as fuck though.

>>10020040
But they're not wrong. The sky is blue, raschel lace looks cheap.

>>10020101
I think so too. Oldschool AP was gorgeous but it's so different from modern AP they probably left it out on purpose to keep the museum more cohesive to their modern brand image. I really wanna see a Meta museum full of their craziest creations

>>10020119
Oldschool AP isn‘t that recognizable. You don’t look at it and think „Ah, Angelic Pretty“ unless you are a big fan of old school and very familiar with their dresses from that time.

>>10020119
Fuck YES! META MUSEUM WHEN???

>>10019846
What's the name of this apron?

>>10020101
Or maybe when they were a smaller brand that just got started they didn't keep one of each release? I wouldn't see a startup brand with less profit margins keep past designs they could have sold, just for the sake of it?

>>10020023
you say that but then chinese girls wear them to disneyland with unkempt hair and sneakers

>>10020030
>mermaid symphony
Seeing this makes me regret selling my mint op. So much nostalgia.

>>10019927
Cursed image.

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>>10020207
Oh jesus what the fuck

>>10020025
Man, I just really wanna fuck Honey Cake so badly. Why can't AP re-release you? I love you baby. Please call me some time.

>>10019870
Not any of those anons, obviously, but I freaking love raschel lace of quality. Meta has some amazing raschel lace on some of their dresses, and before I actually had it in person I kinda thought it looked a bit bad before... but it's amazing and now I love it so much.

On the other hand, I find a lot of tulle lace to be nice and soft, but look too delicate and flimsy and "cheap" compared to a nice torchon or custom raschel.

>>10019917
lmao, the thumbnail looks like an obese black woman in a wheelchair.

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>>10019925
These legit look like Vivienne Westwood pieces to me.

>>10020221
oh lol, I kinda saw it

>>10020025
Maybe there’s hope for a honey cake rerelease, I want the whole damn set. Especially the bag.

>>10019900
The jacquard? They have, they used it on the Princess Of Roses OP and Jsk.

I keep trying to like AP but this thread just confirmed for me that it'll never be my style. Feels weird

>>10020265
I feel the same in general, but I absolutely LOVE all my old school AP pieces. Sadly, none of that is shown here.

There's lots more on Twitter

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>>10019839
This is what I wanted the lolita museum to be but for all brands and with more information about releases. Still so salty that it turned out to be little more than a vanity project.

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>>10019914
what print is the fabric on the table?

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>>10020276
Was the dress under the cage skirt ever released? It looks beautiful and I would definitely sell my everything for it.

>>10019947
I actually didn't! They weren't posted until after my comment, glad I checked back here. These two really tug at my heart. AP felt so magical to me then.
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>>10019925
This is ugly as sin but fuck I really want it

>>10020299
It rotates.
>https://twitter.com/bedroom_jun/status/1055872125943242752?s=19

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>>10020307
Was shit like this mass produced or are there some haute couture pieces that are one of a kind?

>>10020306
I want this thing so fucking bad fuck

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>>10020211
I don't see it?

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>>10020315
Some dresses were runway only stuff, with a much more toned down version sold.

I wish they would let people vote on a favorite and re-release it.

>>10020306
everyone always like "omg I love AP!!!!" and all I have to do is point them to this shit

>>10020340
what about everything else AP's made?

>>10019940
Wait,, what is that white cage skirt thing??

>>10020353
this >>10020276

>>10020337
That would be cool but Im sure the chinese would take it over with something stupid

>>10020337
BABY used to do this where for each purchase you made, you got one ballot to vote.

>>10020387
>6000th Holy Lantern rerelease

>>10020278
I would kill a man for that wonder cookie fabric

>>10020340
>implying there aren't girls who love this silly OTT shit
Come on anon

>>10020340
What's the point in being in an AP thread when you're just going to be extra salty and hate AP?
So you don't like AP, that's fine, but why rant in a thread about an AP event

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>>10019925
I love this thing. I don't do OTT but god bless those who do.

>>10020305
Fuck me dead AP

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>>10020023
They may have started out that way but now OTT mode in all the substyles will never die so people DO wear them to larger fancy events sometimes and it's fine. I'm not sure why it's a big deal, no brand makes a ton of these styles and so they aren't really influencing lolita fashion in general. I'm not sure why some people hate them? The people who really love very casual lolita should just wear what they love and so too with people who love these very fancy things.

>>10020456
>they aren't really influencing lolita fashion in general
They are, actually, because OTT coords get the most visibility on social media and create a false image of the fashion so prevalent that even outsiders who don't know anything about lolita think that OTT is the standard. Outsiders' opinion doesn't really matter, of course, until said outsiders decide to join us and treat the fashion like a costume because that's what they think it is, silly over the top frilly outfits to wear to events and conventions like cosplay. Does it stop people from wearing more standard/"basic" coords? Obviously not, but since more and more newbies are like this, the "face" of the fashion has in fact changed and continues to change for the worst. It's no longer a street fashion, and hasn't been for years.

>>10020463
This makes me sad and I want to deny it, but it's true

i swear i had a dream about this before i knew it was happening. i would kill to go.

>>10020463
I think "less simple" coords do fit that description but that doesn't stop anyone from paying attention to oldschool styling, or casual styling. For some lolitas the only place they do wear their coordinates are cons and events and there has been more fancy events and lolita brand teas in recent years so that exposure is actually for the fancier events. Flashy pieces of fashion are always going to gather more attention, they always have...but that doesn't mean it's more commonly 'what we are wearing' . Meets and meet photos and daily photos are going strong. The solid casual, simple sweet, oldschool, severe gothic and non-fussy elegance of non OTT classic are all going strong as mainstays.

Not a street fashion? Lol...better call Kera and tell them to quit posting those lolita street snaps then...cause I visited the site today and there they were...

Fashion evolves but I don't see many more of these OTT dresses being produced regularly in the market than there have ever been and no one can debate that the height of OTT Sweet (at least in the first incarnation of the candy floss frizz-heads) is actually over. I see much less of that than I did several years ago.

>>10020492
You might want to read my post again - I didn't say that "basic" coords don't exist or that no one wears them, but that OTT and the exposure it gets online gives a false impression of the fashion in general. It doesn't stop lolitas from wearing the fashion how they like, whenever and wherever they like, but it does make many newbies think that it's an OTT costume for conventions and meetups.
As for KERA, afaik they have specific photoshoot days/spots to which people sign up for and go to in order to get their pics taken; I may be wrong, but from my knowledge they don't actually scout the streets looking for actual street fashion.

>>10019925
bury me in this

>>10020494
I read your post but what newbies think and what gets online exposure are not what most of us who are everyday wearers care about that much.

I really don't see these types of dresses affecting the bottom line of the sale of lolita fashion or the brands WOULD be pumping them out in more frequent releases, which they never have.
And Kera and fashion photographers have always done that or handed out cards and made appointments with people from the start of the harajuku fashion boom, but there's still plenty of street fashion in Tokyo and lolita is still among the styles.

>>10020104
Yeah but is it cheap? Come up with better terms. Otherwise you look like you lack intelligence.

>>10020494
>what you see on social media is what everyone else is seeing on social media
Sorry but all the main sm sites use algorithms based on your search history. Not everyone knows how to filter etc. You can't really speak for what gets shown to the public unless you work for one of the major sm sites which I seriously doubt.

>>10020104
Sorry nope, know your lace. Cheap craft-quality raschel lace is cheap-looking, but it's not all created equal. http://www.fyeahlolita.com/2010/06/prejudice-against-raschel-lace.html

Don't get me started on all the shitty craft-quality ribbon I see.

>>10020276
Would it be super tacky to recreate this cage skirt just to wear it for myself? It was never released I believe.

>>10020529
Great point. I often search signed in to google and I deep dive on gothic stuff and do quite a bit of research on both 18th century things and the late Victorian period so surprise, I see more elaborate and gothic coords. But I'm not the one crying that OTT is killing casual either. The only thing I dislike about casual lolita style is when the wearers cry about it being under-appreciated, ignored or not liked enough. It's casual, people often skim over more everyday things.

>>10020316
Saaame

>>10020537
Design it slightly different and credit the inspiration and you should be fine as long as whatever else you wear in the coord is high quality and equally as fancy.

>>10020537
Nah just do it gull it's all gucci

>>10020278
I would commit murder for some of that sweet fabric and those prototype designs

>>10020275
this so much it's just barely anything more than a vanity project. If Baby and especially Meta were there that would be so much better (and Moitié)

>>10020274
That sewing corner is so cozy i want more picture of it

>>10020557
I'll post some more for you anon.

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>>10020572
The more I look, the more I find. I really want to buy that lace.

>>10019901
It's a pretty full brand retrospective. I'm glad for the large variety. It takes more than one narrow style, trend or era for a brand to stay profitable, especially since lolita is much a niche fashion. If AP had only made what a narrow market within lolita fashion liked, they might not have even lasted. The only things I maybe see under-represented here are the less OTT non-prints, blouses in general and in styles, the shorter skirts and salopettes. Reading the guide or catalogue for the exhibit should explain the focus better.

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>>10020586
A photo of the AP shop in 2001.

>>10020337
They’re doing that with print releases right now. With purchase, you get a ballot and can choose from a sheet of prints.

>>10019913
/wistful sigh

Thank you for the photos, anons!

>>10020595
Oh cool, any photos of the sheets or what they are called, please?

>>10019927
room goals

Does anyone else see these pics and think of a Mission Impossible lolita heist? It would be a funny skit for a Deerstalker type video

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>>10020589
ugh, perfect.

>>10019850
HONEYCAKE RE-RELEASE WHEN, AP?

>>10019908
My forever DD

>>10020270
I'm kind of shocked that Dreaming Macaron is missing because i remember that being what kickstarted the OTT sweet trend and obsession with sweets accessories. or maybe im just blind and cant see it?

>>10020581
Oh wow! I forgot this dress existed. Used to be one of my dream dresses when I first got into the fashion.

>>10020494
>As for KERA, afaik they have specific photoshoot days/spots to which people sign up for and go to in order to get their pics taken; I may be wrong, but from my knowledge they don't actually scout the streets looking for actual street fashion.

this has ALWAYS been the case. there has always been a disconnect between what was in KERA/GLB streetsnaps and shoots and what people wore. it didn't ruin the sanctity of the fashion back then and its not destroying the fashion now.

>>10020669
you know that’s being rereleased right now as an mto right

>>10020713
Holy shit.

Honey Cake rerelease when? I know there's voting for which dresses should be rereleased, do japanese lolitas still not give a shit about HC?

>>10020277

Wonder Patisserie

>>10020340

But >>10020316 and >>10020544 ?

>>10020293

As far as I know they've released everything except that design. It's low key infuriating.


regular release:
https://angelicpretty-onlineshop.com/products/list.php?category_id=277
Tea party OTT version:
http://www.angelicpretty.com/news/2017teaparty/order_dress.html

>>10020605
One of the Chinese SS posted on FB

>>10020737
i feel like they do, HC always sells pretty quick (like quicker than a shopping service would usually be able to respond to)

>>10020595
please share the choices if you know them so i can tentatively prepare my wallet

>>10020737
It’s not a rerelease vote, it’s a textile award.

>>10020756
Can't you just share? Like how should we know chinese ss??

>>10020756
agreed like some of us don’t use fb

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>>10020860
FUCKING HONEY CAKE

>>10020834
They haven’t said it will be rereleased, but what do you think is the end goal of a „textile award“? To rerelease eventually of course.

>>10020860
Things I would preorder that seem likely to happen:
Honey Cake
Cherry Margarite
Romantic Rose Letter
Melty Cream Donut
Sugary Carnival
Day Dream Carnival

Things I would LOVE to see rereleased just because they are so old and worn out now, I'd love new versions in my closet
Melody Doll
Rose Toilette
Jewelry Jelly!! (All of them are so faded and gross now)
Milky Berry

I guarantee you though the Chinese are voting for newer stuff like Dolly Dot, the generic cherry prints, and the chocolate/british stuff.

>>10020565
Thank you sm anon i'm saving them all to my background inspo to draw later

>>10020879
>milky berry
Old and worn out? Its only been like 2 years hasn’t it

>>10020885
You're thinking of....any of the more recent berry prints
Anon is talking about this print, released in 2010.
https://lolibrary.org/items/ap-milky-berry-halter-neck-jsk

>>10020885
More like nearly a decade, unfortunately.

>>10020866
There’s prints on there that just got rereleased and new prints that didn’t even sell out.

>>10020879

I'd probably buy Rose Toilette in two colourways if it got re-released, but I think you're right, it's got very slim chances of being voted in by everyone else.

Some of the choices on >>10020860 are kinda odd, like did Milky Pony Carnival do better than, say, Magical Princess or Eternal Carnival? Makes you wonder how these were selected and why.

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>>10019843
Is it just me or are these kind of catering to Chinese Lolitas?????

>>10020324
Can someone name this I’m making my dream dress

>>10020860
I really wish they would do a rerelease of Antoinette Decoration to the western market.

>>10020926
pretty sure it’s a runway dress that was never released
sorry anon

>>10020946
I know it’s totally not in vogue right now but I wish we would get more appliqué dresss
They’re so cute and casual

>>10019847
Was this ever available? What version was this dress? It looks so beautiful, but I have no reason to own it.

Trip report:
The fashion show was pretty cool, at the start there were these two ladies on violin surrounded by mannequins and one was singing almost like enka. Reminded of music from Umineko no Naku koro ni. Later like 6 white girl models showed up who looked like clones of each other and they started blasting Moulin Rogue and Lady Marmalade. Everyone was wearing a super fancy OP.
The museum was really nice, lots of nostalgic pieces and the designer's room bit was very neat (reminded me a bit of the Ghibli museum which has something similar).
All the cool stuff in the shop was already sold out (the postcards). I voted for Honey Cake in the print contest.
I've always been a Baby fan more than an AP fan and today really reinforced that. I think AP is trying to be like 'Paris high fashion' and that's not my style, but I respect it.
Overall I had a lot of fun and wish AP the best, also I hope they re-release Honey Cake.

>>10020954
Thank you for the report, anon! Sounds generally interesting, except for
>Moulin Rogue and Lady Marmalade
Why

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>>10020954
Thank you, I so wish photos and video were allowed I want to see it aaaaa

>>10020954
>two ladies on violin
>singing enka
>not knowing kokusyoku sumire
>not knowing old school queen Sachi
>not realizing it was one violin and one accordion

Most embarrassing behavior, anon

>>10020879
Anon. Melty Cream Donut and Sugary Carnival were both re-released already.

>>10020968
Nayrt but I enjoyed the music this time. It was a fun way to start the show and it went with the dresses.

>>10021009
You're totally right!
To make up for my embarrassing behavior, here's some more details:
The show was set up as a figure 8 inside of the museum, with circles of mannequins on either side. Everyone got a great view of all the models walking around. You can get a good idea of it from this pic: >>10019940
The show began by dimming the lights, and the two girls from Kokusyoku Sumire standing inside the circles with spotlights on them. Very atmospheric. They played a song or two before the show got in full force and it switched to pop music mode and turned up the lights.
There were a few Japanese models at the start but the majority were Western models in the true sense, tall and skinny white girls. Everyone was wearing extravagant OTT OPs, many with huge wigs done up Rococo style. I don't know enough about AP to say what they wore but I would guess they were show piece dresses from old fashion shows or those kind of $30k MTO dresses Chinese girls buy.
For a free event it was awesome. I'm going to the Baby fashion show tomorrow (which isn't free) so I'm curious how they will compare.

>>10021036
Bless you for this, anon. Will you post another report of the Baby show? I'll be very interested to hear your thoughts about it!

>>10020954
Well, the clothes they show on the runways are literally just "Look how fancy we can make this dress", it's not the every day style they're going for.
Kind of like conceptual pieces on the runway. They are impressive, but that's not the actual style of AP.

>>10021038
Thanks, I'll post about the Baby show in the lolita general thread!
Also, I'm not going to the AP tea party in December but if any anons are I'd love to hear a report about that.

>>10021036
Tbh, I imagine that tall is the right physique for those crazy expensive dresses. The reason I don't like them is because every time I see them in fashion shows, the models look swamped in ruffles that make them look kind of stumpy. So maybe this is the one time it'd be useful to be a tallita, providing you also have $30k

>>10020924
Wow, I wonder why they would cater towards their main market?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BpbOKEFnd05/?hl=en-en&taken-by=kiker_chan

>>10020544
Close up video
>https://twitter.com/ebunny_bee/status/1056052822775554049?s=19

>>10020544
IS THAT LILY COLE

>>10021153
It's fucking glorious, thank you for the link. I don't really remember but I think it's the OTT runway version of Candy Fairy? I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

>>10020572
I'm really interested to know what books those are. I assume the designers use them for inspiration.

>>10021179
Dunno what the bottom one is but the top one appears to be a French language edition of https://smile.amazon.com/Laduree-Decoration-Inspiration-Serge-Gleizes/dp/2812309237

>>10020236
Exactly what I thought, anon.

>>10021036
I hope to see a video of this, I’d love to see the dresses moving!

>>10020276
need

>>10021154
Found a closer picture .. I don't think it is

>>10020926
Here you go anon.

>>10021153
hnggg

>>10021038
The BABY show will likely be different in that they'll show their new collection. The AP show was showing off old OTT items plus a new Vivienne Westwood inspired kind of tartan dress that seemed to be just made for the event. Probably no lady marmalade at BABY either, they seem more like Britney fans.

>>10020278
God I love seeing the dress illustrations.

>>10020646
I'd watch the shit out of that. I wish they'd go back to doing more lolita related videos.

>>10021443
Their Lolita stuff has far more views than their cosplay stuff, so why don't they go back to it? I think one of their Lolita vids has 1 million views or something

>>10021453
Youtube automatically demonetizes videos with the name lolita in them and doesn't always (if ever) monetizes them again after manual review. I'd imagine that's too much of a hassle for Deerstalkers to deal with.

>>10021457
Oh shit. That's right. Youtube is such a mess...

>>10021678
Personally I can tell two reasons. Their latter cast isn't as good as it was before, let's be honest. It's not just about Mf leaving, other girls used to make a really good job playing for Mean Lolitas and others. Nowadays cast looks just awkward. Also, community has changed, it's turned out less subcultural. People don't seem to be that much into lolita memes and inner jokes and from this point skit videos look a bit old-fashioned.

>>10020879
I would kill if they did an updated version of pastel a la mode

>>10019846
What print is this?

>>10021743
melody toys I think it's the high waist jsk

From the fashion show, one of models. I wish they'd just post it on Twitter so it wouldn't be this crappy quality.
>https://www.instagram.com/p/BpbmvUrgNRV/

>>10020322

I am pretty surprised to see chess chocolate not represented on a mannequin.

It seemed like a huge deal when I first got back into lolita around 2011, and I feel like it's a "classic".

It was probably my first dream dress, and still one if not is my absolute favorite, followed closely by halloween treats OP.

>>10021005
Photos and videos were allowed. I'd post my vids from IG but I don't want to out myself

>>10024137
Derp, sorry pics and vids werent allowed at the fashion show only. Everything else was OK to photograph

>>10024132

It's one of the posters in >>10020657, if that makes you feel better. I feel like they did leave out a lot of stuff, like Twinkle Mermaid just has this poster >>10020658 for it, but it's a notable landmark release as one of the earliest "colourful" prints (~2006) with a pastel wig, a precursor to what eventually became OTT pastel sweet that basically took over lolita form 2010 to 2013.

I know they can't display everything due to space, but I wonder how they decided what to display. Maybe they just went with what eyecandy they think their audience would want to look at, and not so much what's historically important?

>>10024137
Of the museum, photos ok but no flash or video. Fashion show nothing allowed

>>10020573
>>10020572
Would it be possible to buy lace from AP or is that a pipedream?

>>10032271
Their custom made lace? Dream on! The best you can do is find dupes from laces.taobao.com

>>10032272
> laces.taobao.com
Ugh, I figured. Appreciate the link though, I'll probably find something similar there

>>10020025
*courtesy

>>10020570
>giant print posters wallpapering the room
I want this life

>>10020029
Those sceptres are giving me inspiration for decorating my walking stick. I don't need it much, though... yet

>mfw arthritic knees at 21

>>10024132
It’s not even their best chocolate dress. I think it only seemed to be everywhere due to replicas.

>>10036630
It was a big deal at the time. It was hard to get because of the limit of how many items a SS can get just was made. There wasn’t as many local SS to ask either so s hsndful was originally bought from the western comm. But I don’t know if it was considered that big to Japanese Lolita’s

>>10024150
i feel like AP cares more about things that were probably more of a landmark or left the biggest impression on the designers whereas i feel like if Baby were to do something like this they would use pieces that were more historic and iconic along with showing how the designs have changed

>>10036660
What is the difference in something being historic and iconic as opposed to being a landmark?? Aren't those the same??