/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10020501
I don't know whether I want CTP because of the hype, or because I actually want it. I never allowed myself to bother searching it out second hand because it's always been stupid expensive, but now I have a chance, will I regret it if I don't take it? If it ends up like Holy Hell Not Again I'll be sad, because I liked holy lantern until I saw it EVERYWHERE.

>>10020501
In before someone says Puppet Circus - AP has said that the print and velvet construction is too expensive to ever reproduce so that's one that they will never re-release.

Didn't realize we were starting a new one when I posted in the old one about this; as part of the Girly Leopard release they made furry spats and it's making me wonder; will spats ever become the new wrist cuffs? Like, for winter (when people are wearing long sleeves) they almost seem to make more sense.

>>10020501
I wish Innocent World would make Mucha collabs a regular thing; like how AP always has a chocolate print in fall/ winter. I also wish AP would go back and re-imagine their lucky pack exclusive prints and create new cuts with old prints. The typical lucky pack JSK makes economic sense, but I think it would also be fun to go back and see what it could be on a more "normal" dress price point.

>>10020519
>IW's Mucha collabs
I'd support this but only if they actually look good for a change. I love Mucha and I love Fujiwara's designs, and I'll readily admit that the 2013 collab looks alright... but all in all, these are just boring. The 2015 release is especially abysmal imo.

>>10020519
Huh. I have a pair of these that came with some Meta boots. I never thought about wearing them with other shoes...

>>10020519
Most brands have already done this, it's not really anything new.

>>10020543
Yeah, I never thought of them as inter-changeable. I almost feel like the mis-match of the silver shoes with the black is on purpose to really get across the idea. I kinda want the beigey ones to put with brown boots.

>>10020548
It might not be new, but I haven't seen the idea around lately. Lolita seems to thrive on a certain amount of repetition; like if the same concept shows up enough then it's much more exceptable.

>>10020531
You're right about the cut, but I did like the actual fabric print of the 2013 one. The colors were more clear and lively on the 2015 one, but they were so much smaller. It's really the bodice's fault, I think.

I’m really getting tired of the BTB mods always dropping the ball on at least making the submission post.

I have been thinking if I made another LJ secret community would any one be interested? Would be pretty much the same rules but no designated mod per week just a mod discord and one mod saying “ I’m posting the secrets right now” so the other mods know it’s being posted. Then after the secrets post is made, the next week submission post is made at the same time. This way there will never be another submissions post being made only a day before secrets go up.

Re-release dream? Iron gate long skirt in black/blue. Any Iron Gate re-release is never to be though. Mana-sama himself said that the digital print file for it was somehow corrupted and of course they switched lace providers so the old laces will be different on anything they do re-release. Up-side about the lace is that the new designs are pretty too.

>>10020715
>>10020715
Anon… Moitie hasn't had a new lace design since ~2011. All the lace on the new stuff has been reproductions/scrap from old collections (most notably 2006's St. Peter's Cross lace and the rose cross lace from 2007, although my Neo Gothic Arch headdress has the lace design from 2008).

>>10020719
Aren’t the reproductions different? From a different manufacturer with slight variations since they could not have any more of the original kinds made for some reason?

>>10020724
Not as far as I can tell, if there are differences they're extremely minor. Here's a collage, right side is old and the left is the teaser images of the new socks and the gloves.

>>10020730
Compare the edges, stitch densities, the twining vine direction is reversed on the bottom, the new embroidery is not as dense or raised and the new base netting has fewer, bigger holes...hm.

>>10020745
I noticed that the lines were thicker on the newer ones (the scrolling vines on the socks are pretty obvious), but holy crap I didn't notice the twining vine being switched. Could it be attributed to camera mirroring? I'm not sure the net is any more fine on the older ones though, the top right looks pretty close to the bottom left. Hm. I might have to pull out a few things and do an old vs new comparison IRL.

The design itself is unchanged though, which was my main point. They're just trying to reproduce the old stuff as close as possible rather than modify the designs or make totally new ones.

Is it me, or has closet child's online selection dwindled? I haven't been on there in a pretty long time, a few months, but it seems like when I look through certain pages there's a lot less products to look through there used to be? Or is it just me

>>10020754
Agreed on the reproducing aspect but there were bound to be differences. New net looks coarser because I have one older piece. The vine is not mirrored or wrong-sided though, compare the adjacent M’s, they are both right sided. Looks like I need to order a couple of new things for RL compares too, purely for the research ofc. :^)

>>10020510
this doesn’t make sense as an excuse not to make it though, people would easily pay $600 - $1000

>>10020781
They have been asked and asked. Saying outright ‘no’ is kind of rude in Japan but it seems this finally officially got a gentle negative which if interpreted correctly should mean ‘nope nope nope’.

>>10020759
Not just you. Seems to be significantly less lolita and bizarrely decreasing standards, as other anons discussed in the previous thread:
>>10019930
>>10019953
>>10019959
I can attest to buying some things from CC in the last few months which were perfectly fine, but something does seem to be off about them and they've become hit or miss when it comes to item conditions.

What's the last day of CTP reservation? AP site says it goes till Oct 31, but people who attended the exhibition say today is the last day.

>>10020906
Yikes, bloody hope not. Maybe they got more than they bargained for? Don't see it being particularly popular in the Chinese market though, unless they released a red.

Fuck, now I want CTP in red.

>>10020906
Today was the last day to purchase the novelty goods irc

Rosa Bianca is releasing a new jsk soon
>https://twitter.com/x_rosa_bianca_x/status/1056146255661789186

>>10020501
please

>>10020886
they're probably struggling to compete with wunderwelt.

I'm struggling here gulls. I'm not sure how much longer I should be patient with this LM seller. I paid just shy of 3 weeks ago, and she still hasn't shipped. She respond to maybe 1 request for an update out of every 2-3 I send. She's always apologetic in the messages I have gotten, and I just politely tell her I don't mind waiting as long as she can keep me posted and let me know if there's gonna be another delay.

At this point my last message has been unread for 3 days and I'm thinking I might just tell her that I'd like to receive either the tracking # or refund by the end of next week (which will be over 3 weeks since I paid) and if I don't receive either I will have to file a claim for refund.

Am I being out of line here? I've just never dealt with someone who has been so slow/unresponsive. I'm not sure if I'm being too patient, or not patient enough.

>>10020958
It looks so unprofessional and like western handmade

>>10020976
No you’re not just do it

>>10020976

wait what else is there to update after payment? Surely at that point she just tells you when she's gonna ship and bloody do it? What is she updating you on?

Sort of genuinely confused here, if it's a custom-made piece then I can understand waiting but it'd usually be a lot longer than 3 weeks and if it's a regular secondhand transaction then it's just really weird to have it drag on this long and need updates.

>>10020958

Ok, I love this. That lace ruffles on that neckline is to die for. I just hate the print. Maybe they'll announce a solid option that I can buy instead.

I'm new to old school. How do you gulls go about collecting old school pieces?

honestly though this is the rerelease we all need

>>10021006
...are you new to lolita too? >>10012584

>>10021006
search mercari and pray to god the piece you want shows up

>>10021006
It's not much different than any other kind of lolita shopping, really. Figure out what it is you love (colors, cuts, fabrics, etc.) and then go on the secondhand market and have a lot of patience when you comb it for stuff that appeals to you. As an added bonus you can use lolibrary or lolitahistory to look up information on the pieces you find like the year of release, but otherwise there's not much else to it.

>>10021011
You're right. I don't even like this but I want to own and wear it.

>>10021017
figuring out what you love is hard. I've been a lolita for coming up 8 years, and sometimes I still feel like I don't know what I like. Its as if I have no personal style, I just wear anything that catches my eye.

>>10021051
The only thing you need to figure out is what you love to wear, really. What makes you feel beautiful/cute and confident and makes you have fun in these clothes that you love.
I essentially love all lolita styles but enjoy wearing very specific ones, and while it did take me a while to figure out, I've eventually done it. It takes some trial and error if you're unsure but it's not too complicated imo.

>>10020906
My shopping service only had two days listed to reserve. Yesterday and today. I thought it was the last.

>>10021056
Damn, you're right.

>>10021006

>Find piece name
>*sssssiippp*
>Go to Mercari/Lacemarket/etc
>*ssssiiiiiipp*
>find your piece after checking for several days/weeks/months/years. Make sure it is the right size!
>*sssiiiiiiip*
>Use shopping service like Tenshi, Noppin, Japonica Market once it accepts new customers, etc.
>*ssippp*
>Follow site instructions, pray they can get the piece and wait patiently for it to arrive in the mail
>*sssssssssssssiiiiiiipppppppppppp*
>Take a delicious ssiipp from your burando drink.

>>10020978
Bitch, what do you see so wrong in it?? It's a perfectly nice jsk

>>10020654
Orrr you could apply to be a btb mod

>>10021086
What’s your problem

So I'm the anon who posted the pics of the dress on the runway model from 2009 in the museum thread.. while I was looking for those I ran across a couple of cute snapshots of Honda-san (founder/director), this thread seems like a good place for them

>>10021201

>>10021086
Nayrt but the lace collar is tacky and is going to clash with any blouse you give it , the print fabric is godawful, and the piece is overall boring. Pic related, their jsks have a problem where there’s too much bulk added to the waist. I don’t really get their hype at all.
>also those seams are atrocious

>>10020978
It's the fabric choice, but it still looks well constructed. You shouldn't speak to what looks professional or not since you're not a seamstress?

>>10021204
nah, it's lovely

>>10021202
Ugh, the gruesome twosome.

>>10021011
Every cut and colorway imaginable. Fuck CTP I need punkma camo

>>10021136
Or you can make a new group because the BtB mods are not taking applications and there has been expressed changes the community wants that the mods don’t agree with. Many people have said they want the submissions posts made right after the secrets have been posted. Mods shot it down. That doesn’t mean people still don’t want it. Why not have a new secrets community with different moderation and a different way of posting the said secrets? I think it’s about time we got a new one any way. It’s obvious thisnone has ran its course.

>>10021225
Why not just post here since its the same fucking thing

>>10021241
Because it’s half the time a call out post that isn’t allowed here? How new are you?

>>10021261
Not new at all because livejournal has the same rules and I was on there before I was here.

>>10021204
>>10020978
Are you not classic or something? It looks fucking gorgeous, just simple. You really come off as some newfag sweet lolita who's never browsed anything but taobao.

>>10021265
Different anon, I see what anon means. The bodice is weirdly stitched to the skirt. It's definitely not even. It may not be too noticeable with a busy fabric like >>10020958, but it's there. The "bulk" in the waist is probably from cut.

>>10021263
It’s not as regulated as it is here and you know it.

>>10021271
Not my fault ya'll can't control yourselves. Either suffer there or suffer here. Your pick!

>>10021271
If you make it, they will come. Ignore the obvious mod of the other group trying to excuse their niglect of their secrets page. I think you have a good idea trying to include the communities suggestions for a new group.

>>10021275
>trying this hard to defend the problematic secrets page

Wow how far is that stick up your ass? It’s okay to admit you’re tired of running the page. Time to let someone else take it over. Your ego will still be intact. Don’t worry. You’re no more or less of a lolita for saying you’re done with the secrets page. Unless, it’s because you like the attention and power you have for “owning” the secrets community. If that’s the case I feel sorry for your lack of self appreciation.

>>10021280
I'm not a mod, stupid.

>>10021205
You don't know what I do for a living. Don't assume. And just look at the waistline here >>10021204. It's rippling strangely, the pleats are spaced unevenly... I'm sure they'll get better in a few years but this does not look high quality to me. Shame because the design is absolutely beautiful and totally the type of thing I'd wear.

>>10021202
Those two are so fucking cringey.

>>10021202
Wait, who?

>>10021291
I don’t now, your attitude reflects otherwise.

>>10021299
John Leigh and Deneice. Blehhhh

>>10020958
I hope someone coords it with this Roland

>>10021314
God yes. It would be hilarious. What socks and hair accessory though?

>>10021306
I only recognize John Leigh when he is surrounded by mushrooms

>>10021317
Blue Rose OTKs, if the blues fit (unlikely). For hair accessory, make a rose hair comb out of tie-dye cloth, I guess.

>>10021011
Meta doesn't always give us what we think we want, but what we need.

I hope Boz releases more mermaid skirts with batwing hems (but with simpler bodices).
>https://www.atelier-boz.co.jp/products/detail/167

>>10021202
if johns fat potato ass can fit the mens roland I guess so can I

secrets

secrets >>10021363

>>10020906
>>10021059
>don't worry guys, everyone will get a CTP! it'll be just like Holy Lantern and the resale value will absolutely plummet!
>the reserve was for 2 days only at a Japan-only event
meanwhile
>reserved a CTP set with a shopping service
>$450 + any shipping to be paid later on
>it's still not arriving for a year (could even be more depending)

>>10021482
>it's still not arriving for a year (could even be more depending)

Anon, you do know it's coming out in May 2019? That's only 7 months...

>>10020501
Searched rufflechat but couldn't find anything... I was wondering, where can I buy lolita items/dresses in Korea?

>>10020759
That's because they literally only upload what doesn't sell in their physical shops.

>>10021201
>>10021202

Thanks for posting these, anon. It's nice to see the founder of these brands dressing up and being invested in their own events.

>>10021482
I don't really care if the value plummets. Definitely there's some people who have just bought it to sell, but those bitchy cats will stay with me forever.

>>10021482

I used to have the same mindset, but now that I have a stable income I find myself caring less about resale value. For comparison, unless you're a really good sales hawker and can drum up sales for your used clothing through youtube and instagram, the most you can hope out of used chainstore brand clothing is about $20 at most for clothing you likely bought new, which makes it almost not worth it to sell. By comparison, if I wore a dress several times, enjoyed it, and then decided to sell it, I do get more, even percentage wise.

That being said, the dream dresses I overpaid for are staying with me forever. I know I'm not going to get my money back, but I don't care to anyways.

>>10021635
Agreed. Weirdly I do find myself thinking there's something lost when something breaks, but then I remember that other than the annoyance of sewing it back together or fixing it, I don't really care about reselling much, if any of my things. Aside from items that don't fit me the way I'd like/don't look good on me, I don't really sell much anyway, so why would I care?

New baby dress. I don't think it's been posted yet?

>>10021662
whats this, polar express

>>10021674
If it's baby it's gotta have a much longer name than that... Polar Express Through the Fragile Evening Town of Magical Winter Songs Beep-Beep

>>10021684
>Beep-Beep
I snorted.

>>10021347
You see,I'm usually a 2010s AP sweet person,but this...is calling to me.

is there a shopping service for closet child yokohama?

Also baby.

>>10021734
oh so cute

>>10021684
>Polar Express Through the Fragile Evening Town of Magical Winter Songs Beep-Beep

>>10021482
my shopping service warned me it could take longer if they got extremely high demand, based on what they've seen from past releases from AP.

>>10021607
Haenuli is in Korea

>>10021871
meh i'm fine with waiting, not like i'll die soon or anything
maybe

>>10020958
I'm so happy to see they made several sizes! It's the toned down classic look i could wear everyday! Also their dresses go mid-calves on the models, that means that they would hit at my knee!
Sorry for silly happy ranting, but it really made my day, toned down classic is really what got me interested in lolita in the first place, but brands like MM and VM were'nt catering to my bodytype at all (tall, large and fit). I'm happy to find an alternative and a change of mindset in japanese fashion regarding to sizing.

>>10020970
I think that it's the "independent" second hand market they can't compete with. All other second hand stores that I know have been receiving less and less interesting stuff,because Japanese lolitas know they can get more for their dresses if they sell it themselves

>>10021084
>>10021006
Just my two cents,but many old school pieces don't have a name/they aren't tagged in 2nd hand markets. It's a bit of a hit or miss,since you can't check measurements (you'll obviously fit more stuff if you're tiny). Hey,at least you can pass time while scrolling through the 27382 pages of items tagged as "baby"!

>>10021734
yessss this looks lovely. Baby is really satisfying my craving for dirndl style releases. also, model is cute

>>10021607
in addition to haenuli: lief, marchen die prinzessin, evillive
and there is another quality indie I just heard about recently from a lolita I follow on IG but I can't remember the brand name. brb

Sheglit hating anon, how big would you estimate this will run? It is so lovely I would like to get it if it's anywhere close to this measurements https://www.wunderwelt.jp/en/fleur/products/m-02201?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR2WwOepOVpgHwhDxzya-rNwjZsB7JjuNgE944gmIMF0ZfIaVRUIkUwl9wE

>>10022060
not sure who hates sheglit and why, but that OP looks like it has a 90cm max bust and maybe 80cm waist.

>suddenly realizing how good I've gotten at eyeballing pieces for measurements as a chubbo old schooler

>>10021607
Lief has a physical shop, you can get Baroque & other indie shop stuff at Sweet Weekend (스윗위캔) but check the open times. There are other brands but those are the most accessible.

>>10022088
Nayrt, but where is Liefs physical shop? I can only seem to find an apartment complex which doesn't seem right.

>>10021662

It looks like cheap taobao print.

>>10022101
I dunno if you can read korean but it should be this: 서울시 동작구 사당동 163-49. Directions say it's a 10 minute walk from 이수 subway station. Hours are on their homepage: http://www.lief.co.kr/board/free/read.html?no=5149&board_no=1

>>10022082
Thanks! There is someone on here who keeps saying is "so huge" and then not saying how big it really is

>>10021265
>sweet newfag
>taobao
>talking about construction quality
You can’t see me, but I’m laughing at you in full MM right now.
>>10021267
They definitely are relying on the busy print to make up for the construction/simplicity. While I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt that it’s good-quality brocade, there are methods to fixing the bulk that it doesn’t look like they’re using. It looks renfaire-tier to me.

>>10022116
Thanks anon. It's frustrating how Google maps can't update South Korea and how they only use daum and naver. I appreciate the info, for some reason I couldn't find that page on their mobile website.

>>10022153
No problem, they make Lolita pretty exclusive and inaccessible in Korea so it's hard to find a lot of info. Twitter and their version of EGL on naver are the best bet usually for up to date information.

>>10021482
I’m good. I already have the pink jsk and reserved a grey one with this release. I could care less if the resale value plummets I’m not planning on selling.

>>10022119
>someone on here
I don't know if you realize this but people who troll like that are usually one and done posters. They get the replies they want and then bounce.

>>10021300
>I don’t now
proof read your posts you fucking moron, holy shit. You don't need to post so quickly.

>>10021420
lol what happened to "weeeeh we can't have them here cause anons are so out of control weeeh"?

>>10021271
see how stupid you really are? shut your dumb mouth.

>>10022125
>thinks Rosa Bianca is taobao
>calling someone else new
someone doesn't know their J-indie.

the issue you have with the gathering is because the model doesn't have the jsk tightened/isn't hippy enough for this size. it's fit not construction.
the shape of the bodice bottom is designed like a corset, but not of really rigid material and reinforced construction like VM, MM or Millefleurs would do. This has the flattering corset look but in a more comfortable day-to-day execution. the brocade is great quality, if you check the detail shots on the product listing.

I would absolutely get this if they had a size for my big ass. I think it's okay that it isn't completely formfitting on the model at the low-waist area and you're being nitpicky (which is funny since you have no leg to stand on).

>>10022192
I'm pretty sure you're replying to different people, who have different opinions on secrets because they are different people

Are you okay, please calm down

Does anyone know of a Kanazawa SS? I need this pochette in my life!

>>10022357
so adorable, good luck anon

>>10022303
I know that >>10021420
doesn't agree with >>10021271
I was trying to get my point across to >>10021271
>>10021300

Yes, I am aware that not all anons are the same.

I'm very calm, btw. Knock off your goofy assumptions.

>>10022357
Isn’t MinfKismet Kanazawa based?

>>10022393
>>10022357
To get to Kanazawa from Osaka you need to take a shinkansen for 3+ hrs...

>>10022424
My bad, thought she was Kanazawa based, not Osaka. I thought someone was, can’t remember who though

I don't know of any Western lolitas in Kanazawa, it's a remote sleepy tourist town. You're going to have to just look for a regular shopping service there with the Google. Also read the rules of the comms you keep spamming in J.

>>10022301
Read that again, but slower this time.

The fabric puckering on the seams has nothing to do with fit: if anything the rippling of the panels does, but I’m not the anon that pointed that out. My issue was with the seam puckering and bulk at the waistline; things that have nothing to do with fit. I don’t think it was smart to have a waist seam with such heavy fabric, and managing that is probably what caused most of their issues.
I never called it taobao, I’m just tempering my excitement for the brand. It has some honing left to do.

>>10022463
I'm not J lol

>>10022301
Yeah no, seam puckering and a wonky-ass waist seam is nothing to do with fit. The seam is not rippling because the garment is fitting loose, it's rippling because of a mismatch between fabric choice and pattern as well as poor construction. You can make this fabric and design work without full reinforced construction - VM and MM are not exactly brands known for steel boning and heavy duty interfacing, yet they still get their seams smooth and even with all the velveteens, corduroys and gobelin this isn't an issue for them.

>>10022125
>I'm decked out in MM.
No, you're not because you're too newfag to even understand Japanese indie brands. You need to be in the fashion more because nothing about this is "renfaire".

What sunscreen do you gulls wear? It is coming into summer here and I am worried about discolouration on my clothes caused by sunscreen. What would be the best one to use (for body)?

>>10022689
hello fellow southern hemisphere dweller. I just use the cancer council sunscreen that is non-film and spf 50. for my face i use aprilskin.

>>10021732
You could probably pay a Tokyo service to go down there.

>>10022748
You’d have to pay for their transport and that would be pricy. An Osaka based shopping service might be better.

>>10022758

Yokohama's a lot closer to Tokyo than it is Osaka, mate.

>>10022758
>>10022762
The lack of Japan geography knowledge in this thread is killing me. And you call yourselves weeaboos, baka

I really wish church/derby hats would come in style
I think it would be a cute balance for the skirts

>>10022775
This, and also bergeret hats, although they turn outfits into costumes in most of cases.

Why is K8 selling so many of her dresses? Is it something related to the medical problems or bill?

>>10022775
what skirts?

>>10022748
>>10022758
I don't really need anything from there, I was just wondering if it's worth it to follow closet child yokohama

>>10022798
Lolita skirts, presumably
They're quite wide

Is Le Panier dead? They haven't updated their twitter since summer. And Eternita hasn't updated since last winter. It's weird because both of those magazines sold out afaik.

Does anyone own a pair of Meta's raschel lace socks? I'm dubious about the quality of the lace.

>>10023198
It’s beautiful. I have owned several pairs and honestly I want more and wouldn’t mind paying for them NWT straight from the website. Hoping to do another big meta haul in december

>>10023198
It's really nice soft lace, what is your question? I own three pairs and would like more in different lengths

>>10023198
I have so many pairs of them. the lace is amazing. I've bought maybe 12 pair total from the website.

>>10023198
I own a pair of UTKs and a pair of crew socks and in my opinion they are incredible, the lace is gorgeous, super soft and fluffy, too. Worth every penny.

>>10023198

>>10023198
I just took these for you.

It's seriously amazing. And the actual body of the sock is great too, very soft. I've had socks from some brands that are too nylon (not like nylon pantyhose, but as in the nylon knit socks) and feel stiff and cheap (looking at you IW), and meta's do have nylon, but they are amazing. I actually just placed an order for one pair of socks on friday. 58 bucks for socks, no regrets. They're that amazing.

>>10023120
Iirc they are one-off issues

>>10023198
>>10023234

>>10021011
I’ve honestly wanted this dress for so long

>>10023234
>>10023237
Ntayrt but wow, I honestly didn't realize meta raschel was so nice. Thanks anon.

>>10023120
Le Panier fucked up their standing with the Chinese community big time so they're probably laying low

>>10023120
>>10023530
OT but every time I see "Le Panier" I want to laugh. I think they were going for "The Petticoat" but actually? It's a lolita magazine called "The Shopping Cart".

>>10023532
I mean, that’s not too bad a name? A magazine with clothes so cute, you want to put them in your bag/cart.

>>10023237
Damn, the stock photos don't do them justice. Thanks, anon!

Last day to preorder was yesterday? That was a lot longer than I thought. Unless the weekend was just super long..?

>>10023561

The reservation is three days longer than the Museum for some reason.

>>10023561
Technically there is still about 10 minutes left to reserve

>>10023561
>Telling myself I don't want these just because they're popular

I don't like any of these dresses i just get caught up in what's popular and end up not liking half of what I get. My favorite dress otoh are ones that did not sell out and even went on sale. Dunno if I have bad taste or what

>>10023595
i feel you nonny. i also get caught up in what’s popular.

>>10023530
Does anyone care besides the Chinese? I want to buy the magazine but it's sold out everywhere. They need to make a new volume like yesterday.

>>10023530
Deets?

>>10021988
Damn u right

>>10023561
They said it was until the 31st. Why are you surprised.

Can't wait for wardrobe season gulls. I'm going to make the most beautiful and detailed of them all!!

>>10023601
They pissed off the Chinese comms and put mud on JetJ's (and VM I think) faces. I believe that JetJ had to make a public apology to the Chinese comm for LePanier's mismanagement. So between that and the pissed off Chinese comm I doubt most of the JP brands would work with them again unless it was in a prior commitment.

>>10023636
This is what I always think but it's so much work to upload and format on LJ. So I don't do detail shots because of that

>>10023636
I always think this, and then (humble gloat) I realize that I'd have to take so many pictures that it becomes a daunting task.

Is it generally safe to get holy lantern dry cleaned? I want to get my zipper jsk cleaned but I heard one girl did that and all the flocking came off and now I'm scared.

>>10023954
Apparently the original release is ok, but the later releases you shouldn't.

>>10023954
I put it in the wash fine, I wouldn’t risk dry cleaning flocked stuff l

>>10023813
It isn't much work though.. It takes 1 second to re-size and put things under a cut

>>10023617
https://thisisntjameme.livejournal.com/367.html?thread=92527#t92527

>>10023967
Not for me, it takes me like 5 seconds to resize each, but then 30 seconds to upload each image. LJ is very slow to upload to. When you have a huge wardrobe it's hard not to just do big groups or a video because of this

>>10023978
You could just upload it to mega and post the link

Feeling sad and nostalgic, so I went to look at EGL LJ back when I first discovered lolita, but of course, most images are fucked. Then I started trying to remember and find old youtube/blogs too, but I couldn't remember many of the people... Anyway, does anyone know of any 2005-2012ish blogs or channels still up I could browse through?

>>10024004
If by fucked images you mean photobucket going to shit, you can download extensions for your browser that can fix it.
Anyway, it depends on what you like, iirc The Princess Portal was archived by another blogger who reposted all of Skye's articles, and Parfait Doll is still up and running. There are several posts on EGL that round up old school videos on youtube, too, you can use the search function to find them.

>>10023969
>https://thisisntjameme.livejournal.com/367.html?thread=92527#t92527
That was some delicious drama. JetJ better not be going out of business, though.

>>10024121
Too many prints with bears. Give me something interesting, AP. Like penguins.

Mana-sama has finally seen fit to grace us with a rerelease of the the lace topped OTKs.

>>10024144
where's my home alone Christmas inspired print with various booby traps scattered across a border print

>>10024144
I want this so bad. Would love to see a winter print from AP with polar bears, penguins, or fluffy baby seals.

Please stop with the bears and horses

>>10023595
>>10023598
I bought a HL on the first re-release because of the hype.
I dont regret it at all. Its actually become one of my favorite dresses to wear and coordinate. Its very flattering on my body and extremely comfortable

>>10020976
Is it mrk

>>10024158
Omg I'm not worthy

>>10024225
No, but I got my dress yesterday! It was worth the wait, it's a perfect fit.

>>10023986
Why the fuck would you do that? It's not like that's the only alternative to LJ

>>10023636
People still do these? The last time I made a wardrobe was 4 years ago and by that time lj was already kind of dead.

>>10024158
Screams violently. Wunderwelt better fucking have em

>>10024289
Last year there were a bunch on Instagram

>>10024289
It's the only time of year when EGL is actually active. People post their wardrobes on FB, Tumblr and insta too.

>>10023595

Can you swap tastes with me, half of what I like tends to be a bloodbath somehow.

Like I don't even know many lolitas who are into kimonos but I ended up with my third choice for Sweet Lacy Basket yukata. And I thought nobody liked Sugar Cross so I'm waiting for it to go on sale but the stupid cutsew OP already sold out. Ditto My Favorite Room, too.

I'm doomed, aren't I? All the dresses I like will always be scalped and my wardrobe will also look like I'm always trend-hopping. Shit.

>>10024158
OKAY BUT WHERE CAN I BUY THEM

>>10024301
That's the problem with me, I buy pretty much every bloodbath release I'm able to. The ones that I really like I end up unable to get since I don't use an SS, but the ones that I'm able to get are generally hard to sell if I don't like them since no one wants to pay retail for a dress that was produced in sufficient quantity for the firsthand demand

Moitie has unexpectedly released the angel skirt! Only one colourway and size, costs 27000.

>>10024312
It's so beautiful but I'm too messy to wear white. I wish I could. I already know how I would coord it.

>>10024301
>Sugar Cross
Have you seen it in person though? The print edges were jagged as fuck. Its like someone slapped a bad gif on fabric.

I'm so angry

>>10024338
WHY didn't they just make a long version? Literally who asked for this?? I'm angry too.

>>10024338
Everything in the new restock except the hat is hideous. I can see that jsk being cute in a natural kei coord but the messy taobao looking cardigan is inexcusable and the coat won't be flattering on anyone.

>>10024310

I used multiple SS for 2016, it was the only way I could sleep at night instead of crying over some stupid release I couldn't obtain. 2017 and 2018 are much better, though. I get what you mean, it's always difficult to decide if I should pull the trigger on a dress because chances are it's difficult to resell if I don't like it, but if I don't get it then it really affects my mood for the next few weeks, so as long as I can still afford it then I'd rather just get the dress and eat the cost. Some day all the stupid material things I don't own will stop affecting me this badly. Some day.

Incidentally, I was newly just getting into lolita when the first HL was released and I actually thought "I'll just get the dress in a couple of years after everyone is over it". lmao my newbie ass did not imagine a secondhand dress would go up in price, not down.


>>10024328

I haven't. Looks like I dodged a bullet then.

But wait, if it's so bad? why tf is it sold out??

>>10024344
I like these lace appliques they're using in their latest designs but more often than not they look out of place or badly matched up with tulle lace, like on this cardigan. You can do better than this, Fujiwara, please, I want to give you money.

>>10024354
Oh jesus, I didn't even notice the applique didn't fit in the space provided and is sticking onto the tulle lace. What the actual fuck? Fujiwara, you OK girl?

>>10024344
actually the cardi is cute af. those floral appliques+heart buttons are 10/10

>>10024344
whhhat i saw the cardigan and was like TAKE MY MONEY i love it

>>10024374
>>10024463
The appliques are badly placed though. I like it in principle, but I can't deal with how badly placed they are

>>10024465
the placement is fine imo, the overlap is subtle and serves to call attention to the fact that it's applique, not embroider or print. the tiny leaf overlaps are great in my eyes

>>10024467
>implying it's like that on purpose

AP USA is getting ctp, horror garden and that bat coffin bag

>>10024517
i can hear the sound of goths laughing on the wind

>>10024517
Link? I don't see it on their website.

>>10024517
I wasn't considering CTP before because getting a SS was too much hassle, but now I tempted. Will they ship overseas?

>>10024517
I feel like they’re doing right by all of us, fucking with the scalpers and dumb people who paid 2k for it

>>10024521
It's on ap usa facebook

>>10024517
No cinema doll?

>>10024121
Not my style, not going to buy it, but it's cute. Reminds me of wrapping paper.

On that note, I wish brands would release printed gift wrapping paper, hngggg.

>>10024517
Where is Cinema Doll???

Man I just really want there to be a Honey Cake MTO, including the waffle mix bag.

>>10024532
>>10024536
Pretty sure the announcement on the AP Yaplog stated Cinema Doll was a Tokyo exclusive.

>>10024121
I adore the OP cut. I'd get it if this was a dress I could wear more than once a year.

>>10024545
Big same anon.

>>10023234
I actually recently got a pair of their new "restocked" otks and the lace was a bit stiffer and more scratchy than on my old pairs. it could be because they're starched a bit more or something, and hopefully it will feel better after a wash, but they were different in that way, at least on the black.

I just picked up an 'organdy' dress, but it doesn't have any underdress or anything and... I'm not exactly sure how I'm supposed to wear it? it's an OP, and I'm assuming it, at one point, had an underdress or something with it, but... I guess just putting it over a simple jsk or op like an overdress?

>>10024558
Pics?? We can't give you advice if we have no idea what you got.

>>10024522
Same anon, i’m super tempted now

>>10024338
posted about this last thread but im still so angry about it too

>>10024531
>For more information, please visit angelicpretty-usa.com
Right. Of course it's on FB.

Does anyone own the Melty Whip OP?
If yes, how roomy is it?
(According to lolibrary the shoulders are 35cm. Mine are 37cm, so I was wondering...)

>>10024121
very disappointing

>>10024346
>But wait, if it's so bad? why tf is it sold out??
I seriously don't know. I honest to god was so shocked when I saw it. One of the women working at AP SF showed me the black colorway. Maybe the other colorways don't look as bad?

>>10024307
>>10024295
Wunderwelt and MmM's online store will have them. Physical stores some days later.

IW's new release in a week is stealing my heart though. Might get both releases.

>>10024644

>>10024528
jokes on you. I sold my CTP for 2k, now im getting both colorways :)

>>10024646
Oh wow this is GORGEOUS. Do they have more detail shots?

>>10024528
Scalpers really? I sold mine for $2,600 in auction. I posted a feeler post and I had bitches throwing money at me desperate to out bid each other for a chance to own it. Just because you don’t like the market price doesn’t mean people selling are scalpers.

>>10024659

Yes they do, on their preorder page.

The lace is gorgeous.

>>10024663

>>10024665

CATS TEA PARTY MTO

>>10024671
We know

>>10024646
>grey x beige
Oh my. Oh my my my.

>>10024675
Is that good or bad?

>>10024677
It's good. I like grey and I'm glad it's gaining popularity. Hoping for a darker shade, but we'll see.

>>10024673
Sorry, just really excited. Always been a pipe dream of mine.

>>10024683
Don't worry, excited is good! It had already been posted but I'm glad you're hype for it, anon. What colours are you getting?

That's it, I'm caving.

Should I get CTP in gray or pink?

I only want one and can't decide. I've been looking at coords but it's not helping. I have lots of pink sweet dresses but they are more cutesy ap. Don't have any gray but it is quite lovely and I can match with white/off white things.

>>10024711
Gray, it's more unique and will have higher resale value

>>10024713
From what I've seen in my comm and Instagram and posts on discord most of the people buying this MTO are getting gray

>>10024631

I guess the black might be higher contrast so the rough edges show up more. Did notice the webshop doesn't have a closeup of the black, the lighter colourways don't seem so rough. Maybe it was bought by girls who didn't see it in person.

Anyway, thanks for letting me know. I do feel better about missing it then.

>>10024711
I love the grey, i think it would be easy to coord with white and pink and would look very cute

You heard it here first ladies: anyone buying grey CTP is a gothic or classic lolita who only wants it for its popularity. A true sweet does not fear pink.

>>10025049
True sweets buy both and wear them at the same time.

>>10024517
I was for sure this would be Tokyo only MTO. Oh well, at least I only lost $17 going through an SS. I'll pay that for getting it a month earlier then the rest of Americans.

>>10025058
I know a lot of Americans that already reserved through shopping services

>>10024944
I never liked the grey much, I always found it looked a bit washed out. Maybe that's just me though.

>>10023813
What exactly makes it hard to upload on LJ? Sorry, that will be my first post so I'm curious.

>>10023836
Same. That's why you start now when you have some freetime and when the light is right.

>>10024819

I have the dress in black, its not pixelated at all. The edges have piping on them which from a distance looks like dots. But the print itself is very crisp and I can take photos later

>>10025153
Please post photos, I know what I saw.

>>10024661
>Just because you don’t like the market price
Haha get a load of your self importance!
AP doesn't sell it for that much. Face the facts.

>>10025058
Don't worry, AP USA would have charged you $30 in shipping.

Sugar Cross chiffon is textured chiffon, note the black areas where you can see the raised surface

Print itself is crisp, the dotted edge is icing from the biscuit design

More print detail

I like the cutsew op very much, the collar is also very pretty with tulle and double pockets is convenient

New puff lolita coat by Baroque! Now the arctic lolitas can be warm too. They are conducting a survey for the filling material.

I paid Wunderwelt for shipping 5 days ago and they haven't sent me a tracking number
Is this normal for them? I bought from them before and they sent out things quickly.
Should I email them asking if they got my payment?
Someone please reassure me that everything is going to be okay.

>>10025158
Nayrt but are people selling PC and Iron Gate for 1k scalpers then?

>>10025252
I hope this comes in black.

>>10025252
Holy fuck. How 2 order from Baroque

>>10025253
Email them

>>10025252
how to order??

I haven't been on /cgl/ in a long time and I'm having a hard time finding a certain picture of the BtSSB Quintet of Fairies OP, it was the pink or beige colorway on a model who also had the violin bag and brown boots iirc, does anyone happen to have it?

>>10025253
Don't worry. Wunderwelt has been consistently slow for awhile. I've bought from them since the beginning and they are just getting slower, which makes me sad. But I'm happy they are growing.

By chance did you order during the free shipping promotion for Halloween? They are taking a long time with that. I sent them an email and it took over 24 hours for them to reply (which is long for them).

I'd say send them an email if you want, but they are probably just very busy. They hardly ever drop the ball. They have done multiple special requests for me in the past so I still have 100% faith in them. I hope your order ships soon!

>>10025252
I hope this is a new trend in lolita. Give me functional items.

>>10025252

>>10025253
>>10025284
That's weird, I have gotten this week two packages invoiced and they were both shipped the next day.

Does anyone have any tips or warnings, etc about using oxyclean on lolita? I purchase a lot of really old things that sometimes have stains or discolored laces (on black dresses, no less) and I just bought some oxyclean (says it's the "white revive, safe for colors" version and wanted to give it a shot... but still, I'm kinda scared, since the items I'll be using it on are black with white lace...

>>10025421
I sometimes paint diluted bleach with a small paintbrush directly on to discolored lace (careful not to drip!) and then give the whole thing a really thorough hand-rinse before laundering it. You could always try the same thing but with oxyclean.

>>10025260
If you apply a made up value for an item being sold second hand that is more than retail value, yes.

>>10025217
>>10025218
Now I see what those jagged edges are.

Bad choice of artwork to put on black. I still hate it.

>>10025447
they could just be trying to get their money back if they also paid that much for them

>>10025464
So if someone rips you off, you should just rip off other people to continue the vicious cycle?

Can't wait for more re releases. Sucks to suck, anon.

>>10025471
t. poorfag who doesn't understand supply and demand

>>10025421
You should be fine. I use it all the time, including on black x white and never had any issues. It lives up to the description on the box.

>>10025421
Oxyclean will pull dye from things that haven’t been set properly so be careful of trims.

>>10025446
don’t use it on things dyed with indigo, especially if you’re a dumbass like me and washed your lights with your blue jeans.#neveragain
also be careful on using it on wool and silk & similar because it can break down the protein fibres and make them fall apart. I’ve had luck getting spots out of a wool coat by mixing it into a paste, putting it on the stain, and watching carefully for the stain to be lifted. Rinse with vinegar to neutralise the oxy and then with cold water.
works great on cotton, although I can’t say I’ve ever used it on something black

>>10025504
replied to wrong post, ment for >>10025421

>>10025446
>>10025476
>>10025482
>>10025504
Thanks anons!

>>10025471
You're not ripping people off. Fundamentally, if someone buys something at a certain price, it means that was the correct price for them, since they were willing to buy it in the first place. It was valued at what they were willing to pay. There's no rip off, and it's not a scam.

The same is true in the reverse situation, where someone tries to sell something at what they think is "market value," but no one wants to buy it. It just means that's not it's actual market value. There's no independent "true" price for things, it's just what people are willing to pay.

>>10024686
I think I settled on grey, especially after reading the comments here and generally pink dresses just don’t go well with my face.

I always liked how the bottom trim pops out more against grey too.

>>10025447
It’s not a made up value when on auction it consistently ends at the $1k+ price. You sound like some cheap ass newfag .

>>10021011
I want them to rerelease the full set so i can get the matching cowboy hat. I wonder if we all email theyd consider it? Meta seems to have pretty good customer relations

Moitie's official facebook posted this. Thoughts?

>>10025649
I like seeing collaborations so I'm interested to see what the make

>>10025649
Not gonna like, this will be veerry interesting. I hope it's cute.

>>10025649
I hope Krad provides the print/general idea and Moitie the Material/design.

>>10025572
>cheap ass newfag
I buy new releases all the time. As long as I like something, I can purchase no problem. Sorry this upset you.

>>10025545
No, I don't think dumb gullible idiots who pay 2k for something that isn't really worth 2k aren't setting the standard for the market. There are always going to be suckers who get one pulled over on them. Just look at Funkopops. Morons paying 200 dollars for something you can get at walgreens for 30 bucks. Its called a scam.

>>10025472
This obviously upset you. Part of the reason I have money to burn on things that I want is because I'm not stupid enough to fall for high prices.

I'll say it again. I look forward to more rereleases. I'm happy to pay the correct price from the brands themselves.

>>10025710
Sure, if it's a Funkopop then my argument doesn't really work since they're currently available at retail price. But for the 2k dresses you're talking about, those haven't been available to buy directly for years. If a dress exists only secondhand, retail price doesn't mean anything. Only what people are willing to pay.

>>10025722
CTP is currently available. So are other dresses getting rereleases.

Your little second hand market doesn't mean shit.

>>10025723
Whoa there edgelord. Have fun never getting any high demand dresses and constantly getting your low-ball offers shut down. The rest of us will be wearing whatever dresses we want

>>10025725
>your low-ball offers shut down
AP doesn't take offers you dolt.

>>10025649
I haven't bought Krad since they started jacking up the prices for non-Chinese customers, and hopping on the OTT classic trend. I hope the design is more Moitie than Krad desu, I don't care for busy all over prints.

>>10025649
God I hate that ott Chinese trend shit. Stay away from my Moitie.

>>10025710
>"I-I'm not new!!!"
>thinks Iron Gate and every other dress under the sun will be rereleased
sure Jan

What about anons who have old school pieces as DDs? What about auctions that start at low prices but get pushed into the high hundreds or thousands, like with the old usakumyas? Everybody knows pieces like Holy Lantern are going to be rereleased but they're still willing to pay above retail when the cut/colorway they want isn't available directly from AP. You really do sound like a mad poorfag

Has bunch of entries been deleted from Lolibrary or are the categories not working properly, I'm trying to go through shoes but there's only 3 pages of them and I'm sure there was much more before.

>>10025727
I'm talking about secondhand, you were also. You seem like one of those who won't support brands and expected to get everything NWT for $100 less on the secondhand market

>>10025741
I don't think it's deleted but stuff is definitely not appearing, I searched a dress and found an old auction with a link to lolibrary but it isn't on lolibrary at all and the link is broken

>>10025741
Yeah I’ve noticed that too, a bunch of things I know I’ve looked at on lolibrary are missing.

>>10025741
A lot of items aren't tagged properly because they were independent entries not by the site creators. They're still trying to fix this.

>>10025723
Ok, but we're not talking about CTP anymore. I literally just said dresses that aren't currently available, so that means stuff like Iron Gate. Please actually read the thread properly before posting.

>>10025742
There’s nothing wrong with that. The actual glory of market pricing is that you can buy low demand dresses for dirt cheap in BNWT.

I’m so torn about CTP, I never allowed myself to want it because it always sold for sooo much but now that it’s within my grasp I can’t decide if I actually want it or just want it because it’s popular. Do I take the jump and order it?

>>10025802
I love cats but I never understood the appeal and I still don't get it. If you have doubts at all, save your money for something you actually know you want.

>>10024644
What are the chances this beauty is on sale during IWs Winter Sale event? I'm tempted to reserve it, but so much of their inventory goes on sale that I'd be willing to wait for January to grab it.

>>10025649
KL's stuff always has so much going on and Moitie's pieces are so understated that I don't see how this collaboration is going to work.
If it goes the path of one designs/one makes like >>10025658 suggested, it's gonna suck no matter what. Either a high quality dress with a shitty OTT design, or a beautifully designed dress with quality not worth its price.

>>10025832

They've done toned down designs before, this Phantom one is way before their jellyfish dress that fucked up everything, gave them a huge ego and started them on charging foreigners more. I wouldn't even say they had their own style anyway, aside from Mozarabic Chant and jellyfish everything else they've produced always looks like another brand's style, eg- "jetj style" Le Rentissement Versailles or Twelve Constellations, "aatp style" Transilvania Moonlight or Dullahan, "ap style" Red Queen or Venice Carnival, and so on. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Moitie is just out designers to hire and picked someone who could copy "moitie style" without actually replicating anything.

I'm way more worried about the quality. Granted I don't own a lot of Krad, Mozarabic Chant and Jellyfish were so super hyped up and then when I finally saw them in person I realised people don't actually say Krad is good quality per se. Most people actually selectively say "It's good for taobao brand", or "I was expecting much worse", or "I have this one particular specific burando dress that I dislike more than this dress". They get very selective and there's a lot of qualifiers why they say it's "good".

And given that Moitie just went through a change in ownership and maybe don't have access to their old manufacturers I'm just really worried that they're just gonna use Krad's manufacturing and then slap a Moitie label at the end. This is even worse because there's always going to be some issues you'll never see in photos until you hold the dress in your hand and feel what the fabric quality is really like.

I don't know, I might just pass on this altogether unless I can actually see it somewhere before I buy it. Have a trip to Japan coming up so I'm hoping it coincides with the release. It'll be their first "new" design since the changeover so I want it to go well, but I'm not willing to encourage a drop in quality.

>>10025855


Whoops, ended up writing a blogpost. Looked much shorter when I was typing it out. Sorry.

New lor vid. I was a little underwhelmed by the 500+usd dress.
https://youtu.be/232bvJ9gkBs

>>10025741
Shoes haven't been reimported yet.

>>10025921
>devil inspired
Can you not?

>>10025778
I never actually addressed those pieces and I don't care that they're only available from scalpers who pretend they're in charge of the second hand market.

What's this "we" shit anon? I'm the one who has been replying this entire time. I know someone mentioned them. Do they go for 2k usually like CTP? Puppet Circus doesn't seem to. Iron Gate is close but not quite.

Are you just talking about prices you think are high or grasping at straws? Why do you need to justify these price points so damn bad.

>>10025742
>you were also
No anon. I'm talking about buying rereleases from the brand instead of wasting money on some asshat that had a dress hanging in their closet for no reason.

>>10026101
My whole point was that I don't think selling a dress like Puppet Circus for three times the original cost is scalping, since it's been ages since they were available to buy new. They've sold for very high prices several times over the years, so those "high" prices are just now their regular prices and represent true market value. Basically, if people are willing to pay 1k for something, then it's worth 1k regardless of it's "actual" original cost. If someone buys a secondhand dress for 1k, if they eventually resell it, it obviously makes sense for them to try to make their money back. And if I bought PC new at retail price back in the day and decided to sell it today, of course I would jump on the opportunity to get more money out of it, so that I could turn around and put it into more dresses. I doubt you wouldn't do the same, but correct me if I'm wrong. Similarly, if you like something that's selling for 1k but don't think it's worth that much, it just means you're not the correct buyer for it, and that you shouldn't buy it.

>Why do you need to justify these price points so damn bad
I don't particularly like that some dresses go for crazy amounts, and I neither own nor want to own any of them. I'm not saying the whole thing is good, just that it economically makes sense for these reasons.

The reason I was talking about Iron Gate is because it's just an example of something that goes for way above retail, and is often brought up when people talk about scalpers. I was never talking about CTP because the rerelease makes it no longer relevant here.

What exactly do you want to see happening with the whole situation? For people to just never exceed retail price on the secondhand market, regardless of rarity?

>>10026153
>represent true market value.
No, that represents the SECOND hand market value.

If someone buys a $1K dress, then that is their fucking issue. Why scam other people because you made a mistake?

>I need to make my money back
maybe you should have not spent it then??

>so that I could turn around and put it into more dresses.
yup, that's the mentality I'm talking about.

>I doubt you wouldn't do the same
I don't even sell my dresses unless it's the rare time I get something that doesn't fit. I love everything I own and unlike some other people, I'm not into the hobby for fucking resale marketvalue shit.

> For people to just never exceed retail price on the secondhand market, regardless of rarity?
No silly, that's crazy unrealistic. It's more realistic that more dresses will get rereleases, at least out of AP.

Sorry about your other brands that don't care about secondhand assholes making profit of their work.

>>10025921

So she's just another DevilInspired shill now? Bet that dress doesn't cost more than a couple hundred on Taobao.

>>10026174
>true market value
You're missing my point. For dresses like PC where there is no firsthand market, the secondhand market is the only market, so secondhand market value = true value. Also, it's not a scam, there's no trick. It's not like the item is advertised incorrectly, which would be an actual scam.

>maybe you should have not spent it then??
I agree that if someone buys something expensive then can't get their money back, that's their own damn problem. However, if they can resell it for how much they paid, what's the issue? They get their money back, and someone else bought a dress for a price they were willing to pay. I'm just saying that if you're going to sell something, it just makes sense to try to get as much money for it as possible.

Again, just to be clear, I also refuse to buy dresses over retail (there's no dress I want enough that I would pay that much for), don't buy things because of their resale value, and rarely ever sell things in the first place. My point is that I'm not mad at the people who do try to make profit if they can, and I don't really get why you seem to be.

>>10025921
Why do people still shill this scammer site?

>>10025921
>>10026176
Hasn't she's been shilling their stuff for months now? Not sure why she thinks its a good idea to promote spending 500 us dollars on what looks no different to a cheap,shiny store bought rapunzel costume. Lor always preaches that lolita is the kind of hobby that you have to really put effort into and sometimes hunt down dresses for years, which it is. I know they sponsor her but it just feels so disingenuous to see her clickbaiting 'omg 700 dollar dress' for it to only cost that much because of how inflated the reseller is, not because that's actually what the dress goes for if you bother to look around. If she was unboxing one of those special MTO brand dresses I'd be way more impressed.

>>10026313
>shiny store bought rapunzel costume
Exactly what I thought when I saw it. Honestly though, if it really had to be expensive taobao I'd be more interested in those "couture" dresses soufflesong has now, but Lor is sponsored by devil inspired so ofc it's going to be this garbage. She can't honestly think the shiny fabric is nice.

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>>10026188
Enough omfg

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>>10026188
I addressed there being no firsthand market in my last reply but you must have not read the entire post. It's too bad that those brands don't care. Not my fucking problem. Sorry some idiot paid and ungodly amount from someone who was enough of a greedy asshole that they listed a dress above retail and then everyone blindly followed suit.

I'm not mad. I just think its hilarious that all these girls wasted money on a dress that got rereleased.

>it makes sense to get as much money as possible
See. Everyone was calling me a poorfag but that is the most poorfag thing I've ever read!
The only reason to have that mentality is if money means a whole hell of a lot to you that you have to get as much as possible or else you might not be able buy more dresses!
Fucking lol. Seriously. I don't sell my fucking dresses cause I don't need to.